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  1. 0:00Welcome to Huberman Lab Essentials,
  2. 0:02where we revisit past episodes for the
  3. 0:04most potent and actionable science-based
  4. 0:06tools for mental health, physical
  5. 0:08health, and performance.
  6. 0:11I'm Andrew Huberman, and I'm a professor
  7. 0:13of neurobiology and ophthalmology at
  8. 0:15Stanford School of Medicine. Today's
  9. 0:17episode is going to be all about the
  10. 0:20science of emotions. And today, we're
  11. 0:23going to talk in particular about
  12. 0:25something that most often is called
  13. 0:28stress.
  14. 0:30Now, you might be thinking, "Wait,
  15. 0:31stress isn't an emotion." But stress
  16. 0:34really lies at the heart of whether or
  17. 0:36not our internal experience
  18. 0:39is matched well or not to our external
  19. 0:42experience or the events that are
  20. 0:44happening to us and around us.
  21. 0:46And as you'll soon see, those converge
  22. 0:49or combine to create what we call
  23. 0:51emotions. I'd like you to come away from
  24. 0:54today's episode with what I call an
  25. 0:57organizational logic, a framework for
  26. 0:59thinking about these things that
  27. 1:01typically we just call happy or sad or
  28. 1:03depressed or anxious. And I'm going to
  29. 1:06make sure that you have tools that are
  30. 1:08grounded in physiology and neuroscience
  31. 1:11that will allow you to navigate this
  32. 1:13otherwise complex space that we call
  33. 1:15emotions that will allow you to ground
  34. 1:18yourself better when you're feeling
  35. 1:21like life is weighing on you or you're
  36. 1:23kind of being pulled by the currents of
  37. 1:25life, as well as to support other
  38. 1:27people, whether or not that's in a
  39. 1:29psychological practice, if you're a if
  40. 1:31you're a practitioner, or you have
  41. 1:33clients or children or spouses, really
  42. 1:36to be able to support other people in
  43. 1:38your environment better.
  44. 1:40And as you may recall, the nervous
  45. 1:42system, which includes the brain and the
  46. 1:45eyes and the spinal cord, but also all
  47. 1:47the connections with the organs of the
  48. 1:48body,
  49. 1:49includes the brain and body. And those
  50. 1:51organs of the body,
  51. 1:53your gut and your liver and your spleen,
  52. 1:56they're also communicating with the
  53. 1:59brain.
  54. 2:00So, I look forward to a day, in fact,
  55. 2:01when we no longer think about
  56. 2:03neuroscience as just the brain. And many
  57. 2:06neuroscientists now also think about the
  58. 2:07body, of course. The brain controls the
  59. 2:09body, but the body is also having a very
  60. 2:12profound and concrete influence on the
  61. 2:14brain. Today, we're going to talk about
  62. 2:16objective tools that match the
  63. 2:19brain-body experience or separate the
  64. 2:22brain-body experience in ways that
  65. 2:24leverage your ability to lean into life
  66. 2:27better, to feel better, literally to
  67. 2:29just feel better about what you're
  68. 2:31experiencing, and
  69. 2:33believe it or not, to be able to control
  70. 2:35your emotions when that's appropriate.
  71. 2:37Okay, so what is stress? We hear all the
  72. 2:38time that stress is bad. We hear people
  73. 2:41saying they're really stressed out. What
  74. 2:44is stress?
  75. 2:46Stress, at its core, is a generalized
  76. 2:49system. It wasn't designed for tiger
  77. 2:51tigers attacking us or people attacking
  78. 2:53us. It's a system to mobilize other
  79. 2:56systems in the brain and body. It wasn't
  80. 2:58designed for one thing.
  81. 3:01And that gives it a certain advantage in
  82. 3:03taking over our the state of our brain
  83. 3:05and body, but it also gives you, all of
  84. 3:08us, an advantage in controlling it
  85. 3:11because it's based on hardwired
  86. 3:13biological mechanisms,
  87. 3:15and
  88. 3:16there are hardwired biological
  89. 3:18mechanisms, meaning cells and chemicals
  90. 3:20and pathways and tissues that exist in
  91. 3:22you right now,
  92. 3:24that require no neural plasticity, that
  93. 3:27allow you to put a brake on stress. And
  94. 3:30so, we're going to talk about those. So,
  95. 3:32let's talk about the stress response,
  96. 3:33and by doing that, you will understand
  97. 3:36exactly why the tools I'm going to give
  98. 3:38you work. For those of you that are
  99. 3:41saying, "Wait, I just want the tools.
  100. 3:42Just give me a summary."
  101. 3:44Trust me, if you understand mechanism,
  102. 3:46you are going to be in a far better
  103. 3:48position to incorporate these tools, to
  104. 3:50teach these tools to others, and to
  105. 3:52modify them as your life circumstances
  106. 3:54change.
  107. 3:55Let's be clear about what we already
  108. 3:57know, which is that
  109. 4:00stressors can be psychological
  110. 4:02or they can be physical.
  111. 4:04Okay? If I put you outside on a cold day
  112. 4:07without a jacket for a very long time,
  113. 4:09that is stressful.
  114. 4:11If I have you prepare for too many exams
  115. 4:14at once and you can't balance it all
  116. 4:16with your sleep schedule and your other
  117. 4:17needs for comfort and well-being like
  118. 4:20food, rest, sleep, and social
  119. 4:21connection, that is stressful.
  120. 4:23So, what happens when the stress
  121. 4:25response hits? Let's talk about the
  122. 4:27immediate or what we call the acute
  123. 4:29stress response. We could also think of
  124. 4:31this as short-term stress.
  125. 4:33So,
  126. 4:34you have a collection of neurons that
  127. 4:36start right about at your neck and run
  128. 4:39down to about your navel, a little bit
  129. 4:40lower, and those are called the
  130. 4:42sympathetic chain ganglia. When
  131. 4:45something stresses us out either in our
  132. 4:47mind or because something enters our
  133. 4:49environment, that chain of neurons
  134. 4:51becomes activated like a bunch of
  135. 4:52dominoes falling
  136. 4:55all at once. It's very fast.
  137. 4:57When those neurons are activated,
  138. 4:59acetylcholine is released, but there's
  139. 5:01some other neurons for the aficionados
  140. 5:03out there, they're called the
  141. 5:04postganglionic neurons. Those ones
  142. 5:07respond to that acetylcholine and then
  143. 5:09they release epinephrine, which is the
  144. 5:11equivalent to adrenaline.
  145. 5:13So, we have this system where very fast,
  146. 5:16whenever we're stressed, the core of our
  147. 5:18body, these neurons down the middle of
  148. 5:20our body, release these chemicals and
  149. 5:22then there's adrenaline
  150. 5:24or epinephrine
  151. 5:25released at particular organs and acts
  152. 5:27in particular ways. Some things like the
  153. 5:30muscles of your legs and your heart and
  154. 5:33other things that need to be active when
  155. 5:35you're stressed,
  156. 5:36they have a certain kind of receptor
  157. 5:39which is called the
  158. 5:41beta receptor and that beta receptor
  159. 5:43responds to epinephrine and blood
  160. 5:45vessels dilate, they get bigger and
  161. 5:47blood rushes in to our legs. The heart
  162. 5:50rate speeds up. Lots of things happen
  163. 5:52that get activated. And at the same
  164. 5:55time, that epinephrine activates other
  165. 5:58receptors on certain tissues that we
  166. 6:01don't need, the ones involved in
  167. 6:02digestion, reproduction, and things of
  168. 6:05that sort that are luxuries
  169. 6:07for when things are going well, not
  170. 6:10things to pay attention to when we're
  171. 6:11stressed. So, the stress response is
  172. 6:13two-pronged. It It's a yes for certain
  173. 6:15things, and it's a no, you may not right
  174. 6:17now for other things. That's why you
  175. 6:19feel blood in certain organs and tissues
  176. 6:22of your body, but not in others. But
  177. 6:24basically, you are activated in ways
  178. 6:27that support you moving. And that's
  179. 6:29because fundamentally,
  180. 6:31the stress response is just this generic
  181. 6:33thing that says,
  182. 6:34"Do something." You're going to feel
  183. 6:36agitated, and that's because it was
  184. 6:37designed to move you.
  185. 6:39So, this is important because if you
  186. 6:41want to control stress, you need to
  187. 6:44learn how to work with that agitation.
  188. 6:48I'd like to give you a tool at this
  189. 6:51point because
  190. 6:52I think if we go any further with a lot
  191. 6:54more science, people are going to uh
  192. 6:56begin to wonder if this is just going to
  193. 6:57be a kind of standard university lecture
  194. 6:59about the stress response.
  195. 7:01If you want to reduce the magnitude of
  196. 7:03the stress response,
  197. 7:05the best thing you can do is activate
  198. 7:08the other system in the body, which is
  199. 7:10designed for calming and relaxation.
  200. 7:13And that system is called the
  201. 7:15parasympathetic nervous system. And the
  202. 7:18parasympathetic nervous system is really
  203. 7:21interesting because especially the
  204. 7:23cranial nerves, the ones that are up in
  205. 7:25the brainstem, and in the neck area,
  206. 7:28those have a direct line to various
  207. 7:31features of your face, in particular the
  208. 7:33eyes. They control things like eye
  209. 7:35movements, pupil dilation,
  210. 7:37things of that sort, as well as the
  211. 7:39tongue, the facial muscles, etc. So, I'm
  212. 7:42going to teach you the first tool now,
  213. 7:44so I don't overwhelm you with all this
  214. 7:46academic knowledge without giving you
  215. 7:47something useful.
  216. 7:48And the tool that, at least to my
  217. 7:51knowledge, is the fastest and most
  218. 7:55thoroughly grounded in physiology and
  219. 7:57neuroscience for calming down in a
  220. 7:59self-directed way, is what's called the
  221. 8:02physiological sigh, s i g h. What I'm
  222. 8:05talking about when I refer to
  223. 8:06physiological sighs is the very real,
  224. 8:10medical school textbook relationship
  225. 8:13between the brain,
  226. 8:15the body,
  227. 8:17and the body as it relates to the
  228. 8:18breathing apparatus, meaning the
  229. 8:20diaphragm and lungs, and the heart.
  230. 8:23Let's take the hallmark of the stress
  231. 8:25response. The heart starts beating
  232. 8:27faster, blood is shuttled to the big
  233. 8:28muscles of the body to move move you
  234. 8:30away from whatever it is the stressor
  235. 8:32is, or just make you feel like you need
  236. 8:34to move or talk, your face goes flushed,
  237. 8:36etc. There is, however, a way in which
  238. 8:38you can breathe that directly controls
  239. 8:40your heart rate through the interactions
  240. 8:43between the sympathetic and the
  241. 8:44parasympathetic nervous system.
  242. 8:46Here's how it works.
  243. 8:48When you inhale,
  244. 8:50so, whether or not it's through the nose
  245. 8:52or through the mouth,
  246. 8:53this skeletal muscle that's inside your
  247. 8:56body, called the diaphragm,
  248. 8:59it moves down, and that's because the
  249. 9:00lungs expand, the diaphragm moves down.
  250. 9:04Your heart actually gets a little bit
  251. 9:05bigger in that expanded space. There's
  252. 9:07more space for the heart. And as a
  253. 9:09consequence, whatever blood is in there
  254. 9:12is now at a lower volume, or moving a
  255. 9:15little bit more slowly in that larger
  256. 9:17volume, than it was before you inhaled.
  257. 9:21Okay, so more space, heart gets bigger,
  258. 9:23blood moves more slowly, and there's a
  259. 9:25little group of neurons called the
  260. 9:26sinoatrial node in the heart
  261. 9:29that registers, it's Believe it or not,
  262. 9:31those neurons pay attention to the rate
  263. 9:33of blood flow through the heart, and
  264. 9:36send a signal up to the brain that blood
  265. 9:38is moving more slowly through the heart.
  266. 9:41The brain then sends a signal back to
  267. 9:43the heart to speed the heart up. So,
  268. 9:46what this means is if you want your
  269. 9:47heart to beat faster, inhale longer,
  270. 9:52inhale
  271. 9:53more vigorously
  272. 9:55than your exhales.
  273. 9:57Now, the opposite is also true. If you
  274. 9:59want to slow your heart rate down, so
  275. 10:00stress response hits, you want to slow
  276. 10:03your heart rate down.
  277. 10:05What you want to do is again capitalize
  278. 10:07on this relationship between the body,
  279. 10:09the meaning the diaphragm and the heart
  280. 10:11and the brain. Here's how it works. When
  281. 10:13you exhale,
  282. 10:14the diaphragm moves up, which makes the
  283. 10:17heart a little bit smaller. It actually
  284. 10:19gets a little more compact. Blood flows
  285. 10:21more quickly through that compact space.
  286. 10:24The sinoatrial node registers that blood
  287. 10:26is going more quickly, sends a signal up
  288. 10:28to the brain, and the parasympathetic
  289. 10:31nervous system, some neurons in your
  290. 10:32brainstem, send a signal back to the
  291. 10:35heart to slow the heart down.
  292. 10:37So, if you want to calm down quickly,
  293. 10:40you need to make your exhales longer
  294. 10:43and/or more vigorous than your inhales.
  295. 10:46Now, the reason this is so attractive as
  296. 10:49a tool for controlling stress is that it
  297. 10:52works in real time. This doesn't involve
  298. 10:54a practice that you have to go and sit
  299. 10:56there and do anything separate from
  300. 10:58life. The physiological sigh is
  301. 11:00something that people naturally start
  302. 11:01doing when they've been crying and
  303. 11:03they're trying to recover some air or
  304. 11:04calm down,
  305. 11:06when they've been sobbing very hard, or
  306. 11:08when they are in claustrophobic
  307. 11:09environments. However,
  308. 11:11the amazing thing about this thing that
  309. 11:13we call the diaphragm, the skeletal
  310. 11:15muscle, is that it's an internal organ
  311. 11:16that you can control voluntarily. So,
  312. 11:18this incredible pathway that goes from
  313. 11:20brain to diaphragm through what's called
  314. 11:23the phrenic nerve, p h r e n i c,
  315. 11:26phrenic. The phrenic nerve
  316. 11:28innervates the diaphragm. You can
  317. 11:29control anytime you want. You can double
  318. 11:31up your inhales or triple up your
  319. 11:32inhales. You can exhale more than your
  320. 11:35inhales, whatever you want to do.
  321. 11:37Such an incredible organ. And the
  322. 11:38physiological sigh
  323. 11:40is something that we do spontaneously,
  324. 11:42but when you're feeling stressed, you
  325. 11:44can do a double inhale
  326. 11:51long exhale. Now, I just told you a
  327. 11:52minute ago that if you inhale more than
  328. 11:54you exhale, you're going to speed the
  329. 11:55heart rate up, which would promote more
  330. 11:58stress and activation. Now, I'm telling
  331. 12:00you to do a double inhale exhale in
  332. 12:02order to calm down. And the reason is
  333. 12:04the double inhale exhale, which is the
  334. 12:06physiological sigh,
  335. 12:09takes advantage of the fact that when we
  336. 12:11do a double inhale, even if the second
  337. 12:13inhale is sneaking in just a tiny bit
  338. 12:15more air, cuz it's kind of hard to get
  339. 12:16two deep inhales back to back. You do
  340. 12:18big deep inhale and then another little
  341. 12:20one sneaking it in. The little sacs in
  342. 12:22your lungs, the alveoli of the lungs.
  343. 12:24Your lungs aren't just two big bags, but
  344. 12:25you got millions of little sacs
  345. 12:27throughout the the lungs that actually
  346. 12:29make the surface area of your lungs as
  347. 12:30big as a tennis court. It's amazing. If
  348. 12:33we just spread that out. Those tend to
  349. 12:34collapse
  350. 12:36as we get stressed and carbon di- carbon
  351. 12:38dioxide builds up in our bloodstream and
  352. 12:40that's one of the reasons we feel
  353. 12:41agitated as well.
  354. 12:43But when you do the double inhale
  355. 12:45exhale, the double inhale reinflates
  356. 12:47those little sacs of the lungs. And then
  357. 12:49when you do the long exhale,
  358. 12:51that long exhale is now much more
  359. 12:54effective at ridding your body and
  360. 12:56bloodstream of carbon dioxide, which
  361. 12:58relaxes you very quickly. When you're
  362. 13:00feeling stressed, the physiological sigh
  363. 13:03done just one to three times, so it'd be
  364. 13:05double inhale exhale, double inhale
  365. 13:07exhale, maybe just two times, will bring
  366. 13:09down your level of
  367. 13:12stress very, very fast. And as far as I
  368. 13:14know, it's the fastest way to accomplish
  369. 13:16that. Be aware that if you're going to
  370. 13:18use the physiological sigh or exhale
  371. 13:20emphasized breathing to calm down,
  372. 13:22that your heart rate will take about 20
  373. 13:24to 30 seconds to come down to baseline.
  374. 13:27And you may need to repeat the
  375. 13:28physiological sigh a few times. So,
  376. 13:31let's think about something now. Let's
  377. 13:33think about stress
  378. 13:34from not whether or not it's acute or
  379. 13:37chronic, whether or not it's good for us
  380. 13:38or bad for us, but on three different
  381. 13:40time scales because then we can arrive
  382. 13:43at what this is all about as it relates
  383. 13:46to emotions. But, I really want you to
  384. 13:47understand the difference between the
  385. 13:49three kinds of stress on three different
  386. 13:52time scales: short-term, medium-term,
  387. 13:54and long-term and what it's good for and
  388. 13:57what it's bad for. I think we've all
  389. 13:58heard that stress is bad for us. We've
  390. 14:01seen these
  391. 14:03pictures intended to frighten us and
  392. 14:04indeed they are frightening. You see the
  393. 14:06nice, really plump brain on the left
  394. 14:09says healthy or control and then you
  395. 14:11see the brain that says stressed above
  396. 14:13it on the right and it's like withered
  397. 14:15or we see that the hippocampus, an area
  398. 14:17involved in memory, is smaller. People
  399. 14:20that are stressed. I think we've all
  400. 14:21heard now so many times that stress is
  401. 14:23bad.
  402. 14:24But, in that conversation,
  403. 14:27unfortunately,
  404. 14:28it's eclipsed some of the really
  405. 14:30positive things that stress does for us
  406. 14:32in the short-term. When the stress
  407. 14:34response hits, that is good for your
  408. 14:36immune system. I know that might be a
  409. 14:38tough pill to swallow, but it's
  410. 14:40absolutely true.
  411. 14:41In fact,
  412. 14:43stress often comes in the form of
  413. 14:45bacterial or viral infection.
  414. 14:48And the stress response
  415. 14:50is in part organized to combat bacterial
  416. 14:54and viral infection.
  417. 14:55So, short-term stress
  418. 14:57and the release of adrenaline in
  419. 14:59particular or epinephrine, same thing,
  420. 15:01adrenaline epinephrine, is good for
  421. 15:04combating
  422. 15:05infection.
  423. 15:07And this to me is just not discussed
  424. 15:09enough, so that's why I'm discussing it
  425. 15:10here. And it relates to a particular
  426. 15:12tool that many of you ask about,
  427. 15:15but
  428. 15:16I don't often get the opportunity to
  429. 15:17talk about in such an appropriate
  430. 15:19context. It's not that it's ever
  431. 15:21inappropriate to talk about, but what
  432. 15:23I'm about to talk about now is the use
  433. 15:25of again, respiration, breathing
  434. 15:28to
  435. 15:30somewhat artificially activate the
  436. 15:32stress response, and that will
  437. 15:34accomplish two things, okay? I'll return
  438. 15:36to medium and long-term stress, but I
  439. 15:38want to say short-term stress is good
  440. 15:40because the dilation of the pupils, the
  441. 15:43changes of the optics of the eyes, the
  442. 15:44quickening of the heart rate, the
  443. 15:46sharpening of your cognition, and in
  444. 15:48fact, that short-term stress brings
  445. 15:50certain elements of the brain online
  446. 15:52that allow you to focus. Now, it narrows
  447. 15:54your focus, you're not good at seeing
  448. 15:56the so-called big picture, but it
  449. 15:58narrows your focus, it allows you to do
  450. 16:00these what I call duration path outcome
  451. 16:02types of analysis, it allows you to
  452. 16:03evaluate your environment, evaluate what
  453. 16:05you need to do, it primes your whole
  454. 16:07system for better cognition,
  455. 16:09it primes your immune system to combat
  456. 16:11infection, and that all makes sense when
  457. 16:13you think about the fact that famine,
  458. 16:16thirst,
  459. 16:18bacterial infections, viral infections,
  460. 16:21invaders, all of this stuff liberates a
  461. 16:23response in the body that's designed to
  462. 16:25get you to fight back about against
  463. 16:27whatever stressor that happens to be,
  464. 16:29psychological, physical, bacterial,
  465. 16:31viral. Again, the stress response is
  466. 16:34generic.
  467. 16:35The tool
  468. 16:37takes advantage of the fact that when
  469. 16:39adrenaline is released in the body
  470. 16:42from the adrenals,
  471. 16:44it has the effect of also liberating a
  472. 16:46lot of these killer cells from the
  473. 16:48immune organs,
  474. 16:50in particular from the spleen, but from
  475. 16:51elsewhere as well, and interactions with
  476. 16:54the lymphatic system, that combat
  477. 16:56infection.
  478. 16:59The way this works in the real world is
  479. 17:02best captured by a study that can be
  480. 17:05mapped back to so-called Wim Hof
  481. 17:08breathing. Now, Wim Hof breathing is so
  482. 17:10named after the so-called Iceman Wim
  483. 17:13Hof. There are two components to a sort
  484. 17:15of breathing protocol that he developed
  485. 17:19that was based also on what's called
  486. 17:20Tummo breathing, t u m m o. So, before
  487. 17:23Wim, there was Tummo breathing and many
  488. 17:26people call this now super oxygenation
  489. 17:28breathing. So, it's deliberate
  490. 17:29hyperventilation.
  491. 17:31Why would somebody want to do this?
  492. 17:33Well,
  493. 17:34deliberate hyperventilation done for
  494. 17:35maybe 25 cycles. So, inhale, exhale,
  495. 17:38inhale, exhale, inhale, exhale. That
  496. 17:40pattern of breathing, rapid movements of
  497. 17:42the diaphragm,
  498. 17:44will liberate adrenaline from the
  499. 17:45adrenals. When adrenaline is released in
  500. 17:47the body, you are in a better position
  501. 17:50to combat infections.
  502. 17:52And so, whether or not you breathe very
  503. 17:54quickly in these cycles of 25 breaths,
  504. 17:57and regardless of what you call it,
  505. 17:58doesn't matter. Adrenaline is released.
  506. 18:00If you take a cold shower, adrenaline is
  507. 18:03released. If you go into an ice bath,
  508. 18:05deliberately, and
  509. 18:07even if you do it non-deliberately,
  510. 18:09adrenaline is released. You are
  511. 18:10mimicking the stress response and that
  512. 18:13adrenaline
  513. 18:14serves to suppress or combat
  514. 18:18incoming infections. And this was
  515. 18:20beautifully shown in a study that was
  516. 18:21published in a very fine journal, the
  517. 18:23Proceedings of the National Academy of
  518. 18:24Sciences for the US.
  519. 18:26It's it literally called Proceedings of
  520. 18:28the National Academy of USA to
  521. 18:30distinguish it from other proceedings of
  522. 18:32other national academies in other
  523. 18:33countries.
  524. 18:36The way the experiment went is that
  525. 18:38people were injected with endotoxin
  526. 18:42or in some cases, they were injected
  527. 18:45with with a bacterial wall that mimics
  528. 18:47infection. It It gives you a fever. It
  529. 18:50makes you feel nauseous. It makes you
  530. 18:51feel sick. It is not pleasant.
  531. 18:53Half of the people did a particular
  532. 18:55pattern of breathing that looked very
  533. 18:57much like the pattern of breathing I
  534. 18:58described a moment ago of doing 25 deep
  535. 19:02inhales and exhales followed by an an
  536. 19:04exhale, holding their breath, then
  537. 19:06repeating 25 inhales, exhales,
  538. 19:08holding their breath. So, this would
  539. 19:09look something like this or if you're
  540. 19:10listening, it sounds like
  541. 19:1425-30 times, you'll start feeling heated
  542. 19:16up. You'll start feeling the adrenaline
  543. 19:17response. You're liberating adrenaline
  544. 19:19in your body. Then exhale, hold your
  545. 19:21breath for 15 seconds,
  546. 19:23and then repeat. Now, I want to
  547. 19:24emphasize, never, ever, ever do this
  548. 19:27anywhere near water. People have passed
  549. 19:29out. So-called shallow water blackout,
  550. 19:31people have died. Please don't do it at
  551. 19:33all unless you get clearance to do it
  552. 19:34from your doctor, because there are some
  553. 19:36pulmonary effects and whatnot. And the
  554. 19:38breath holds should definitely not be
  555. 19:39done by anyone that has glaucoma or
  556. 19:41pressure uh you know, concerns for the
  557. 19:43eyes. But these repeated
  558. 19:46cycles of breathing that liberate
  559. 19:47adrenaline
  560. 19:48allowed the group that did that protocol
  561. 19:51to essentially experience zero symptoms
  562. 19:54from the injection of this E. coli,
  563. 19:56which is remarkable. They had much
  564. 19:58reduced or no symptoms. They wouldn't
  565. 20:00feel feverish, they didn't feel sick,
  566. 20:02they weren't vomiting, no diarrhea,
  567. 20:04which is remarkable, but makes total
  568. 20:06sense when you think about the fact that
  569. 20:07the short-term stress response, that
  570. 20:09what we typically call the acute stress
  571. 20:11response, is designed to combat all
  572. 20:13stressors.
  573. 20:14Many of us are familiar with the
  574. 20:15experience of work, work, work, work,
  575. 20:17work, or taking care of a loved one, or
  576. 20:19stress, stress, stress, stress, stress,
  577. 20:20then we finally relax. Maybe we even go
  578. 20:22on vacation. Like, "Oh, now I'm finally
  579. 20:24going to get the break." And then we get
  580. 20:25sick.
  581. 20:26And that's because the adrenaline
  582. 20:28response crashed and your immune system
  583. 20:29crashed with it.
  584. 20:31So, please understand this. Now, many of
  585. 20:35you might say, "Well, how long? Is it 2
  586. 20:36hours? Is it 3 hours?" A lot of you out
  587. 20:38there that really like specificity. It
  588. 20:40will vary for everybody. I would just
  589. 20:42kind of use a rule of thumb. When you
  590. 20:44are no longer able to achieve good
  591. 20:46sleep, what good sleep means to you,
  592. 20:48please see the episodes on sleep if you
  593. 20:50want more about tools to sleep. When you
  594. 20:52are no longer able to achieve good
  595. 20:54sleep, you are now moving from acute
  596. 20:57stress to chronic stress. You need to be
  597. 20:58able to turn the stress response off.
  598. 21:01Okay.
  599. 21:02So, now let's talk about medium-term
  600. 21:03stress. Medium-term stress is going to
  601. 21:06be stress that lasts anywhere from
  602. 21:09several days to several weeks. What is
  603. 21:11stress threshold? Well,
  604. 21:14stress threshold is actually our ability
  605. 21:17to cognitively regulate what's going on
  606. 21:20in our body. A lot of stress
  607. 21:22inoculation,
  608. 21:24a lot of managing medium-term stress on
  609. 21:27the on the time scale of weeks or maybe
  610. 21:29even a couple months. So, we're not
  611. 21:31talking about years of stress.
  612. 21:34A lot of that has to do with raising our
  613. 21:35stress threshold. It's about capacity.
  614. 21:39And there are very simple tools,
  615. 21:42excellent tools that will allow us to
  616. 21:44modulate our
  617. 21:46capacity for stress. And they look a lot
  618. 21:47like the tools I just described.
  619. 21:50They involve placing oneself
  620. 21:52deliberately into a situation where our
  621. 21:55adrenaline is increased somewhat, not to
  622. 21:58the extreme,
  623. 21:59and then when we are feel flooded with
  624. 22:01adrenaline,
  625. 22:03and normally we would panic, it's about
  626. 22:06cognitively, mentally, emotionally
  627. 22:09calming ourselves and being comfortable
  628. 22:11with that response in our body. And what
  629. 22:14would this look like? You can use
  630. 22:16the cyclic hyperoxygenation breathing to
  631. 22:19combat infection if you're feeling kind
  632. 22:20of run down.
  633. 22:22And
  634. 22:23there is also a way in which you can use
  635. 22:24things like cold showers or if you
  636. 22:27exercise and you bring your heart rate
  637. 22:29up very high, you kind of go into that
  638. 22:31high intensity realm where your heart is
  639. 22:33beating a little bit harder than you're
  640. 22:35comfortable with.
  641. 22:36The key in those moments is to learn to
  642. 22:38relax the mind while the body is very
  643. 22:42activated. One way that you can do this,
  644. 22:44and this is kind of fun, if it's
  645. 22:45approved by your physician and you're
  646. 22:48able to do this, you can bring your
  647. 22:49heart rate up. You could do this through
  648. 22:51an ice bath if that's your thing or a
  649. 22:52cold shower or cyclic oxygenation
  650. 22:54breathing, or you could sprint, or you
  651. 22:56could go hard on the bike.
  652. 22:58Whatever it is that brings your heart
  653. 22:59rate up.
  654. 23:00And then what you want to do is you want
  655. 23:02to actually try and calm the mind while
  656. 23:04your body is in this heightened state of
  657. 23:06activation.
  658. 23:07When we are stressed, our pupils dilate.
  659. 23:10The effect of that pupil dilation is to
  660. 23:12create tunnel vision. It literally
  661. 23:14narrows our view of the visual world. We
  662. 23:15no longer see in panorama.
  663. 23:18And there's some other effects as well,
  664. 23:20but that's because the visual system
  665. 23:21through this cranial nerve system that I
  666. 23:23described before is tethered and is part
  667. 23:26of this autonomic nervous system.
  668. 23:29By deliberately dilating your gaze,
  669. 23:31meaning not moving your head and eyes
  670. 23:33around, but by deliberately going from
  671. 23:35tunnel vision
  672. 23:37to broader panoramic vision, literally
  673. 23:39seeing more of your environment all at
  674. 23:41once, it creates a calming effect on the
  675. 23:43mind because it releases a particular
  676. 23:45circuit in the brainstem that's
  677. 23:46associated with alertness, aka stress.
  678. 23:50Now, this is very powerful. If you're
  679. 23:52running, for instance, and you're at max
  680. 23:54capacity or close to it, where you're
  681. 23:56kind of hitting like 80, 90% of maximum
  682. 23:58on the bike, and you dilate your gaze,
  683. 24:01what you'll find is the mind can relax
  684. 24:03while the body is in full output. And it
  685. 24:05this is relates to work that in various
  686. 24:08communities people are working with this
  687. 24:10in the sports community, military
  688. 24:11community, etc. But, it's a form not
  689. 24:14really of stress inoculation, it's more
  690. 24:16about raising stress threshold so that
  691. 24:18the body is going to continue to be in a
  692. 24:21high alertness, high reactivity mode,
  693. 24:24high output, but the mind is calm. And
  694. 24:27so this isn't about unifying mind and
  695. 24:29body, this is actually about using body
  696. 24:32to bring up your level of activation,
  697. 24:34then dissociating, not the
  698. 24:36clinical dissociation kind of disorders,
  699. 24:38but dissociating the mental or emotional
  700. 24:41response from what's going on in your
  701. 24:42body. And over time, so if you do this,
  702. 24:45you know, a couple times, you don't have
  703. 24:46to do this every workout, but if you do
  704. 24:48this every maybe once a week or so, you
  705. 24:50start being comfortable at these higher
  706. 24:52activation states. What once felt
  707. 24:54overwhelming and like a lot of work, now
  708. 24:57is
  709. 24:58manageable. It feels tolerable. So,
  710. 25:00that's for navigating medium-term
  711. 25:03stress.
  712. 25:04And then there's long-term stress. Now,
  713. 25:06long-term stress is bad. You do not want
  714. 25:09adrenaline up in your system for a very
  715. 25:11long time. In fact, you you ideally you
  716. 25:14would have your stress go up various
  717. 25:17times throughout the day, but it would
  718. 25:18never stay elevated and it would never
  719. 25:20prevent you from getting a good night's
  720. 25:22sleep. We know that chronic stress,
  721. 25:24elevated stress, and especially in the
  722. 25:26so-called type A personalities,
  723. 25:29creates heart disease, leading killer of
  724. 25:32for in most every country, but in
  725. 25:34particular in the US.
  726. 25:36But by no means do you want to be
  727. 25:37stressed out all the time chronically
  728. 25:40for months and months and months and
  729. 25:41years on end.
  730. 25:44The best tools, the best mechanisms that
  731. 25:47we know to modulate long-term stress,
  732. 25:50might surprise you a little bit.
  733. 25:53First of all,
  734. 25:55there are going to be the things that
  735. 25:55don't surprise you, which is everyone
  736. 25:57knows getting regular exercise, getting
  737. 25:59good sleep,
  738. 26:00um using real-time tools to try and tamp
  739. 26:02down the stress response, et cetera.
  740. 26:04That's all going to be really useful.
  741. 26:07The data really points to the fact that
  742. 26:10social connection and certain types of
  743. 26:13social connection in particular are what
  744. 26:16are going to mitigate or reduce
  745. 26:19long-term stress. And this is a
  746. 26:21particularly important issue nowadays
  747. 26:23where we have all these proxies or
  748. 26:25surrogates for social connection. You
  749. 26:28know, we're online and texting with
  750. 26:29people a lot. Everyone has this kind of
  751. 26:31need to stay connected to one another.
  752. 26:33Humans are incredibly social creatures.
  753. 26:36The way to think about social connection
  754. 26:37and how it can mitigate
  755. 26:39some of the long-term effects of stress
  756. 26:41is really through the systems of
  757. 26:43neuromodulation, like serotonin.
  758. 26:46Serotonin again is a neuromodulator.
  759. 26:48Neuromodulators are a a bit like
  760. 26:50playlists in the brain. They tend to
  761. 26:52amplify or bias the likelihood that
  762. 26:54certain brain circuits and body circuits
  763. 26:56are going to be activated and that
  764. 26:58others will not. Serotonin generally
  765. 27:01gives us feelings of well-being. At very
  766. 27:02high levels, it makes us feel blissed
  767. 27:05and it tends to make us feel like we
  768. 27:06have enough in our immediate
  769. 27:08environment. When we see somebody that
  770. 27:10we recognize and trust, serotonin is
  771. 27:12released in the brain.
  772. 27:14And that has certain positive effects on
  773. 27:17the immune system and on other systems
  774. 27:19of neural repair and and synapses and
  775. 27:21things that really reinforce connections
  776. 27:23in the brain and prevent that long-term
  777. 27:25withering of connections. So, serotonin
  778. 27:28is tied to social connection. Now,
  779. 27:30social connection can take many forms.
  780. 27:32Some of those can be romantic
  781. 27:34attachments. Those could be familial
  782. 27:36attachments that are non-romantic
  783. 27:37friendship, pets,
  784. 27:40even attachments to things that just
  785. 27:42delight us. Having a sense of delight, a
  786. 27:45sense of really enjoying something that
  787. 27:47you see and engage in, witness, or
  788. 27:49participate in, that is associated with
  789. 27:52the serotonin system. And certainly play
  790. 27:55is one of those things, social
  791. 27:56connection of various forms. Those are
  792. 27:58things to invest in. I'll be the first
  793. 28:00to admit, social connection and
  794. 28:01friendship and relationships of all
  795. 28:03kinds to animals or humans or inanimate
  796. 28:05objects takes work. It takes investment.
  797. 28:08It takes time in not needing everything
  798. 28:12to be exactly the way you want it to be.
  799. 28:13Social connection is something that we
  800. 28:15work for, but it is incredibly powerful.
  801. 28:18Finding just a few people, even one, or
  802. 28:21an animal, or something that you delight
  803. 28:23in,
  804. 28:24believe it or not, has very positive
  805. 28:26effects on mitigating this long-term
  806. 28:29stress, on improving various aspects of
  807. 28:32our life as it relates to stress and
  808. 28:34emotionality.
  809. 28:35Now, how do you know if you're making
  810. 28:36serotonin? You don't know in the moment,
  811. 28:38but you can learn if you pay attention
  812. 28:41to kind of recognize these feelings of
  813. 28:43comfort, trust, bliss, delight. And
  814. 28:46those are not weak terms. Those are not
  815. 28:49associated just with uh psychological
  816. 28:51terms. They are they are every bit as
  817. 28:53physiological as the movement of your
  818. 28:55muscles or the secretion of adrenaline.
  819. 28:57Now, there are a plethora of things that
  820. 28:59will also impact well-being and allow
  821. 29:01you to
  822. 29:02modulate your long-term stress. Reduce
  823. 29:05the likelihood that you'll engage in
  824. 29:06long-term stress.
  825. 29:08There are compounds that are not
  826. 29:10prescription compounds that can modulate
  827. 29:13the stress system. And sometimes,
  828. 29:15because of the way that life is, we just
  829. 29:16don't have the opportunity to control
  830. 29:19life and to control our response to
  831. 29:20stress. The three I want to focus on,
  832. 29:22and one that I think you need to be
  833. 29:24cautious about that I've mentioned
  834. 29:25before,
  835. 29:26include
  836. 29:28ashwagandha,
  837. 29:30L-theanine, and melatonin. Let's talk
  838. 29:32about melatonin first. Melatonin is a
  839. 29:34hormone secreted from the pineal in
  840. 29:36direct relationship to how much darkness
  841. 29:38you are in, not emotional darkness, but
  842. 29:41light suppresses melatonin. Melatonin
  843. 29:43helps you fall asleep, it doesn't help
  844. 29:44you stay asleep. I,
  845. 29:47personally, do not recommend
  846. 29:48supplementing melatonin
  847. 29:50because
  848. 29:51it's supplemented typically at very high
  849. 29:53levels.
  850. 29:54You know, 1 to 3 mg or even more. That
  851. 29:57is an outrageously high dose. It also
  852. 29:59has a number of potentially negative
  853. 30:01effects on the reproductive axis and and
  854. 30:05hormones there. The other is L-theanine.
  855. 30:07I've talked about L-theanine, which,
  856. 30:09provided it's safe for you, can be taken
  857. 30:11100 mg or 200 mg about a 30 minutes or
  858. 30:1460 minutes before sleep. It can enhance
  859. 30:16the transition to sleep and depth of
  860. 30:18sleep for many people.
  861. 30:20It it increases GABA, this inhibitory
  862. 30:22neurotransmitter in the brain. It tends
  863. 30:23to turn off our forebrain a little bit
  864. 30:25or reduce the activity of our kind of
  865. 30:27thinking systems and ruminating systems.
  866. 30:29Help people fall asleep. But, theanine
  867. 30:32has also been shown for people that are
  868. 30:33chronically anxious or chronically
  869. 30:35stressed to significantly increase
  870. 30:36relaxation. It is known to have a minor
  871. 30:38effect on anxiety, but eight studies
  872. 30:40have shown that. It definitely has a
  873. 30:42notable effect on stress. The other
  874. 30:43supplement that can be very useful is
  875. 30:45ashwagandha. Ashwagandha is known to
  876. 30:48lower anxiety and cortisol. This is
  877. 30:51great. I mean, the opportunity for me
  878. 30:53anyway to be able to take something that
  879. 30:55can help me reduce my cortisol so that I
  880. 30:58don't get some of the long-term effects
  881. 30:59of stress. And I'm not going to take
  882. 31:00ashwagandha year-round. I would only do
  883. 31:02this if I was feeling like I wasn't
  884. 31:03managing my short- and medium-term
  885. 31:05stress well. So, I don't take it on a
  886. 31:07regular basis. I do take it when I'm in
  887. 31:09these
  888. 31:10times when things are particularly
  889. 31:11stressful. So, social connection and
  890. 31:14some supplementation, of course, diet,
  891. 31:16exercise, sleep for long-term stress.
  892. 31:19So, I hope today
  893. 31:21you were able to take a slightly
  894. 31:23different view of this thing that we
  895. 31:25call stress, not just see it as evil,
  896. 31:27but see it as powerful and useful in
  897. 31:29certain contexts, great for us in
  898. 31:30certain contexts, and problematic in
  899. 31:33other contexts, and as well to think
  900. 31:35about the various tools that I've
  901. 31:36presented that can allow you to adjust
  902. 31:39and modulate your internal levels of
  903. 31:42alertness or calmness so that you can
  904. 31:43lean more effectively into life, which
  905. 31:45includes sleep and social connection and
  906. 31:48the work you have to do, and of course,
  907. 31:50acknowledges that the events in the
  908. 31:52world are beyond our control. What's in
  909. 31:55our control is how we react to them,
  910. 31:57something that's commonly said in the
  911. 31:58wellness and self-help and psychology
  912. 32:01world, but for which there often aren't
  913. 32:03as many concrete tools that we can
  914. 32:05really look to and trust in real time.
  915. 32:08As always, really appreciate your time
  916. 32:10and attention today. I hope you practice
  917. 32:13some of the tools if they're right for
  918. 32:14you. I hope you think hard about stress
  919. 32:16and how you can control your stress, and
  920. 32:20above all, as always, thank you for your
  921. 32:22interest in science.

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