Tools for Managing Stress & Anxiety | Huberman Lab Essentials — Transcript
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- 0:00Welcome to Huberman Lab Essentials,
- 0:02where we revisit past episodes for the
- 0:04most potent and actionable science-based
- 0:06tools for mental health, physical
- 0:08health, and performance.
- 0:11I'm Andrew Huberman, and I'm a professor
- 0:13of neurobiology and ophthalmology at
- 0:15Stanford School of Medicine. Today's
- 0:17episode is going to be all about the
- 0:20science of emotions. And today, we're
- 0:23going to talk in particular about
- 0:25something that most often is called
- 0:28stress.
- 0:30Now, you might be thinking, "Wait,
- 0:31stress isn't an emotion." But stress
- 0:34really lies at the heart of whether or
- 0:36not our internal experience
- 0:39is matched well or not to our external
- 0:42experience or the events that are
- 0:44happening to us and around us.
- 0:46And as you'll soon see, those converge
- 0:49or combine to create what we call
- 0:51emotions. I'd like you to come away from
- 0:54today's episode with what I call an
- 0:57organizational logic, a framework for
- 0:59thinking about these things that
- 1:01typically we just call happy or sad or
- 1:03depressed or anxious. And I'm going to
- 1:06make sure that you have tools that are
- 1:08grounded in physiology and neuroscience
- 1:11that will allow you to navigate this
- 1:13otherwise complex space that we call
- 1:15emotions that will allow you to ground
- 1:18yourself better when you're feeling
- 1:21like life is weighing on you or you're
- 1:23kind of being pulled by the currents of
- 1:25life, as well as to support other
- 1:27people, whether or not that's in a
- 1:29psychological practice, if you're a if
- 1:31you're a practitioner, or you have
- 1:33clients or children or spouses, really
- 1:36to be able to support other people in
- 1:38your environment better.
- 1:40And as you may recall, the nervous
- 1:42system, which includes the brain and the
- 1:45eyes and the spinal cord, but also all
- 1:47the connections with the organs of the
- 1:48body,
- 1:49includes the brain and body. And those
- 1:51organs of the body,
- 1:53your gut and your liver and your spleen,
- 1:56they're also communicating with the
- 1:59brain.
- 2:00So, I look forward to a day, in fact,
- 2:01when we no longer think about
- 2:03neuroscience as just the brain. And many
- 2:06neuroscientists now also think about the
- 2:07body, of course. The brain controls the
- 2:09body, but the body is also having a very
- 2:12profound and concrete influence on the
- 2:14brain. Today, we're going to talk about
- 2:16objective tools that match the
- 2:19brain-body experience or separate the
- 2:22brain-body experience in ways that
- 2:24leverage your ability to lean into life
- 2:27better, to feel better, literally to
- 2:29just feel better about what you're
- 2:31experiencing, and
- 2:33believe it or not, to be able to control
- 2:35your emotions when that's appropriate.
- 2:37Okay, so what is stress? We hear all the
- 2:38time that stress is bad. We hear people
- 2:41saying they're really stressed out. What
- 2:44is stress?
- 2:46Stress, at its core, is a generalized
- 2:49system. It wasn't designed for tiger
- 2:51tigers attacking us or people attacking
- 2:53us. It's a system to mobilize other
- 2:56systems in the brain and body. It wasn't
- 2:58designed for one thing.
- 3:01And that gives it a certain advantage in
- 3:03taking over our the state of our brain
- 3:05and body, but it also gives you, all of
- 3:08us, an advantage in controlling it
- 3:11because it's based on hardwired
- 3:13biological mechanisms,
- 3:15and
- 3:16there are hardwired biological
- 3:18mechanisms, meaning cells and chemicals
- 3:20and pathways and tissues that exist in
- 3:22you right now,
- 3:24that require no neural plasticity, that
- 3:27allow you to put a brake on stress. And
- 3:30so, we're going to talk about those. So,
- 3:32let's talk about the stress response,
- 3:33and by doing that, you will understand
- 3:36exactly why the tools I'm going to give
- 3:38you work. For those of you that are
- 3:41saying, "Wait, I just want the tools.
- 3:42Just give me a summary."
- 3:44Trust me, if you understand mechanism,
- 3:46you are going to be in a far better
- 3:48position to incorporate these tools, to
- 3:50teach these tools to others, and to
- 3:52modify them as your life circumstances
- 3:54change.
- 3:55Let's be clear about what we already
- 3:57know, which is that
- 4:00stressors can be psychological
- 4:02or they can be physical.
- 4:04Okay? If I put you outside on a cold day
- 4:07without a jacket for a very long time,
- 4:09that is stressful.
- 4:11If I have you prepare for too many exams
- 4:14at once and you can't balance it all
- 4:16with your sleep schedule and your other
- 4:17needs for comfort and well-being like
- 4:20food, rest, sleep, and social
- 4:21connection, that is stressful.
- 4:23So, what happens when the stress
- 4:25response hits? Let's talk about the
- 4:27immediate or what we call the acute
- 4:29stress response. We could also think of
- 4:31this as short-term stress.
- 4:33So,
- 4:34you have a collection of neurons that
- 4:36start right about at your neck and run
- 4:39down to about your navel, a little bit
- 4:40lower, and those are called the
- 4:42sympathetic chain ganglia. When
- 4:45something stresses us out either in our
- 4:47mind or because something enters our
- 4:49environment, that chain of neurons
- 4:51becomes activated like a bunch of
- 4:52dominoes falling
- 4:55all at once. It's very fast.
- 4:57When those neurons are activated,
- 4:59acetylcholine is released, but there's
- 5:01some other neurons for the aficionados
- 5:03out there, they're called the
- 5:04postganglionic neurons. Those ones
- 5:07respond to that acetylcholine and then
- 5:09they release epinephrine, which is the
- 5:11equivalent to adrenaline.
- 5:13So, we have this system where very fast,
- 5:16whenever we're stressed, the core of our
- 5:18body, these neurons down the middle of
- 5:20our body, release these chemicals and
- 5:22then there's adrenaline
- 5:24or epinephrine
- 5:25released at particular organs and acts
- 5:27in particular ways. Some things like the
- 5:30muscles of your legs and your heart and
- 5:33other things that need to be active when
- 5:35you're stressed,
- 5:36they have a certain kind of receptor
- 5:39which is called the
- 5:41beta receptor and that beta receptor
- 5:43responds to epinephrine and blood
- 5:45vessels dilate, they get bigger and
- 5:47blood rushes in to our legs. The heart
- 5:50rate speeds up. Lots of things happen
- 5:52that get activated. And at the same
- 5:55time, that epinephrine activates other
- 5:58receptors on certain tissues that we
- 6:01don't need, the ones involved in
- 6:02digestion, reproduction, and things of
- 6:05that sort that are luxuries
- 6:07for when things are going well, not
- 6:10things to pay attention to when we're
- 6:11stressed. So, the stress response is
- 6:13two-pronged. It It's a yes for certain
- 6:15things, and it's a no, you may not right
- 6:17now for other things. That's why you
- 6:19feel blood in certain organs and tissues
- 6:22of your body, but not in others. But
- 6:24basically, you are activated in ways
- 6:27that support you moving. And that's
- 6:29because fundamentally,
- 6:31the stress response is just this generic
- 6:33thing that says,
- 6:34"Do something." You're going to feel
- 6:36agitated, and that's because it was
- 6:37designed to move you.
- 6:39So, this is important because if you
- 6:41want to control stress, you need to
- 6:44learn how to work with that agitation.
- 6:48I'd like to give you a tool at this
- 6:51point because
- 6:52I think if we go any further with a lot
- 6:54more science, people are going to uh
- 6:56begin to wonder if this is just going to
- 6:57be a kind of standard university lecture
- 6:59about the stress response.
- 7:01If you want to reduce the magnitude of
- 7:03the stress response,
- 7:05the best thing you can do is activate
- 7:08the other system in the body, which is
- 7:10designed for calming and relaxation.
- 7:13And that system is called the
- 7:15parasympathetic nervous system. And the
- 7:18parasympathetic nervous system is really
- 7:21interesting because especially the
- 7:23cranial nerves, the ones that are up in
- 7:25the brainstem, and in the neck area,
- 7:28those have a direct line to various
- 7:31features of your face, in particular the
- 7:33eyes. They control things like eye
- 7:35movements, pupil dilation,
- 7:37things of that sort, as well as the
- 7:39tongue, the facial muscles, etc. So, I'm
- 7:42going to teach you the first tool now,
- 7:44so I don't overwhelm you with all this
- 7:46academic knowledge without giving you
- 7:47something useful.
- 7:48And the tool that, at least to my
- 7:51knowledge, is the fastest and most
- 7:55thoroughly grounded in physiology and
- 7:57neuroscience for calming down in a
- 7:59self-directed way, is what's called the
- 8:02physiological sigh, s i g h. What I'm
- 8:05talking about when I refer to
- 8:06physiological sighs is the very real,
- 8:10medical school textbook relationship
- 8:13between the brain,
- 8:15the body,
- 8:17and the body as it relates to the
- 8:18breathing apparatus, meaning the
- 8:20diaphragm and lungs, and the heart.
- 8:23Let's take the hallmark of the stress
- 8:25response. The heart starts beating
- 8:27faster, blood is shuttled to the big
- 8:28muscles of the body to move move you
- 8:30away from whatever it is the stressor
- 8:32is, or just make you feel like you need
- 8:34to move or talk, your face goes flushed,
- 8:36etc. There is, however, a way in which
- 8:38you can breathe that directly controls
- 8:40your heart rate through the interactions
- 8:43between the sympathetic and the
- 8:44parasympathetic nervous system.
- 8:46Here's how it works.
- 8:48When you inhale,
- 8:50so, whether or not it's through the nose
- 8:52or through the mouth,
- 8:53this skeletal muscle that's inside your
- 8:56body, called the diaphragm,
- 8:59it moves down, and that's because the
- 9:00lungs expand, the diaphragm moves down.
- 9:04Your heart actually gets a little bit
- 9:05bigger in that expanded space. There's
- 9:07more space for the heart. And as a
- 9:09consequence, whatever blood is in there
- 9:12is now at a lower volume, or moving a
- 9:15little bit more slowly in that larger
- 9:17volume, than it was before you inhaled.
- 9:21Okay, so more space, heart gets bigger,
- 9:23blood moves more slowly, and there's a
- 9:25little group of neurons called the
- 9:26sinoatrial node in the heart
- 9:29that registers, it's Believe it or not,
- 9:31those neurons pay attention to the rate
- 9:33of blood flow through the heart, and
- 9:36send a signal up to the brain that blood
- 9:38is moving more slowly through the heart.
- 9:41The brain then sends a signal back to
- 9:43the heart to speed the heart up. So,
- 9:46what this means is if you want your
- 9:47heart to beat faster, inhale longer,
- 9:52inhale
- 9:53more vigorously
- 9:55than your exhales.
- 9:57Now, the opposite is also true. If you
- 9:59want to slow your heart rate down, so
- 10:00stress response hits, you want to slow
- 10:03your heart rate down.
- 10:05What you want to do is again capitalize
- 10:07on this relationship between the body,
- 10:09the meaning the diaphragm and the heart
- 10:11and the brain. Here's how it works. When
- 10:13you exhale,
- 10:14the diaphragm moves up, which makes the
- 10:17heart a little bit smaller. It actually
- 10:19gets a little more compact. Blood flows
- 10:21more quickly through that compact space.
- 10:24The sinoatrial node registers that blood
- 10:26is going more quickly, sends a signal up
- 10:28to the brain, and the parasympathetic
- 10:31nervous system, some neurons in your
- 10:32brainstem, send a signal back to the
- 10:35heart to slow the heart down.
- 10:37So, if you want to calm down quickly,
- 10:40you need to make your exhales longer
- 10:43and/or more vigorous than your inhales.
- 10:46Now, the reason this is so attractive as
- 10:49a tool for controlling stress is that it
- 10:52works in real time. This doesn't involve
- 10:54a practice that you have to go and sit
- 10:56there and do anything separate from
- 10:58life. The physiological sigh is
- 11:00something that people naturally start
- 11:01doing when they've been crying and
- 11:03they're trying to recover some air or
- 11:04calm down,
- 11:06when they've been sobbing very hard, or
- 11:08when they are in claustrophobic
- 11:09environments. However,
- 11:11the amazing thing about this thing that
- 11:13we call the diaphragm, the skeletal
- 11:15muscle, is that it's an internal organ
- 11:16that you can control voluntarily. So,
- 11:18this incredible pathway that goes from
- 11:20brain to diaphragm through what's called
- 11:23the phrenic nerve, p h r e n i c,
- 11:26phrenic. The phrenic nerve
- 11:28innervates the diaphragm. You can
- 11:29control anytime you want. You can double
- 11:31up your inhales or triple up your
- 11:32inhales. You can exhale more than your
- 11:35inhales, whatever you want to do.
- 11:37Such an incredible organ. And the
- 11:38physiological sigh
- 11:40is something that we do spontaneously,
- 11:42but when you're feeling stressed, you
- 11:44can do a double inhale
- 11:51long exhale. Now, I just told you a
- 11:52minute ago that if you inhale more than
- 11:54you exhale, you're going to speed the
- 11:55heart rate up, which would promote more
- 11:58stress and activation. Now, I'm telling
- 12:00you to do a double inhale exhale in
- 12:02order to calm down. And the reason is
- 12:04the double inhale exhale, which is the
- 12:06physiological sigh,
- 12:09takes advantage of the fact that when we
- 12:11do a double inhale, even if the second
- 12:13inhale is sneaking in just a tiny bit
- 12:15more air, cuz it's kind of hard to get
- 12:16two deep inhales back to back. You do
- 12:18big deep inhale and then another little
- 12:20one sneaking it in. The little sacs in
- 12:22your lungs, the alveoli of the lungs.
- 12:24Your lungs aren't just two big bags, but
- 12:25you got millions of little sacs
- 12:27throughout the the lungs that actually
- 12:29make the surface area of your lungs as
- 12:30big as a tennis court. It's amazing. If
- 12:33we just spread that out. Those tend to
- 12:34collapse
- 12:36as we get stressed and carbon di- carbon
- 12:38dioxide builds up in our bloodstream and
- 12:40that's one of the reasons we feel
- 12:41agitated as well.
- 12:43But when you do the double inhale
- 12:45exhale, the double inhale reinflates
- 12:47those little sacs of the lungs. And then
- 12:49when you do the long exhale,
- 12:51that long exhale is now much more
- 12:54effective at ridding your body and
- 12:56bloodstream of carbon dioxide, which
- 12:58relaxes you very quickly. When you're
- 13:00feeling stressed, the physiological sigh
- 13:03done just one to three times, so it'd be
- 13:05double inhale exhale, double inhale
- 13:07exhale, maybe just two times, will bring
- 13:09down your level of
- 13:12stress very, very fast. And as far as I
- 13:14know, it's the fastest way to accomplish
- 13:16that. Be aware that if you're going to
- 13:18use the physiological sigh or exhale
- 13:20emphasized breathing to calm down,
- 13:22that your heart rate will take about 20
- 13:24to 30 seconds to come down to baseline.
- 13:27And you may need to repeat the
- 13:28physiological sigh a few times. So,
- 13:31let's think about something now. Let's
- 13:33think about stress
- 13:34from not whether or not it's acute or
- 13:37chronic, whether or not it's good for us
- 13:38or bad for us, but on three different
- 13:40time scales because then we can arrive
- 13:43at what this is all about as it relates
- 13:46to emotions. But, I really want you to
- 13:47understand the difference between the
- 13:49three kinds of stress on three different
- 13:52time scales: short-term, medium-term,
- 13:54and long-term and what it's good for and
- 13:57what it's bad for. I think we've all
- 13:58heard that stress is bad for us. We've
- 14:01seen these
- 14:03pictures intended to frighten us and
- 14:04indeed they are frightening. You see the
- 14:06nice, really plump brain on the left
- 14:09says healthy or control and then you
- 14:11see the brain that says stressed above
- 14:13it on the right and it's like withered
- 14:15or we see that the hippocampus, an area
- 14:17involved in memory, is smaller. People
- 14:20that are stressed. I think we've all
- 14:21heard now so many times that stress is
- 14:23bad.
- 14:24But, in that conversation,
- 14:27unfortunately,
- 14:28it's eclipsed some of the really
- 14:30positive things that stress does for us
- 14:32in the short-term. When the stress
- 14:34response hits, that is good for your
- 14:36immune system. I know that might be a
- 14:38tough pill to swallow, but it's
- 14:40absolutely true.
- 14:41In fact,
- 14:43stress often comes in the form of
- 14:45bacterial or viral infection.
- 14:48And the stress response
- 14:50is in part organized to combat bacterial
- 14:54and viral infection.
- 14:55So, short-term stress
- 14:57and the release of adrenaline in
- 14:59particular or epinephrine, same thing,
- 15:01adrenaline epinephrine, is good for
- 15:04combating
- 15:05infection.
- 15:07And this to me is just not discussed
- 15:09enough, so that's why I'm discussing it
- 15:10here. And it relates to a particular
- 15:12tool that many of you ask about,
- 15:15but
- 15:16I don't often get the opportunity to
- 15:17talk about in such an appropriate
- 15:19context. It's not that it's ever
- 15:21inappropriate to talk about, but what
- 15:23I'm about to talk about now is the use
- 15:25of again, respiration, breathing
- 15:28to
- 15:30somewhat artificially activate the
- 15:32stress response, and that will
- 15:34accomplish two things, okay? I'll return
- 15:36to medium and long-term stress, but I
- 15:38want to say short-term stress is good
- 15:40because the dilation of the pupils, the
- 15:43changes of the optics of the eyes, the
- 15:44quickening of the heart rate, the
- 15:46sharpening of your cognition, and in
- 15:48fact, that short-term stress brings
- 15:50certain elements of the brain online
- 15:52that allow you to focus. Now, it narrows
- 15:54your focus, you're not good at seeing
- 15:56the so-called big picture, but it
- 15:58narrows your focus, it allows you to do
- 16:00these what I call duration path outcome
- 16:02types of analysis, it allows you to
- 16:03evaluate your environment, evaluate what
- 16:05you need to do, it primes your whole
- 16:07system for better cognition,
- 16:09it primes your immune system to combat
- 16:11infection, and that all makes sense when
- 16:13you think about the fact that famine,
- 16:16thirst,
- 16:18bacterial infections, viral infections,
- 16:21invaders, all of this stuff liberates a
- 16:23response in the body that's designed to
- 16:25get you to fight back about against
- 16:27whatever stressor that happens to be,
- 16:29psychological, physical, bacterial,
- 16:31viral. Again, the stress response is
- 16:34generic.
- 16:35The tool
- 16:37takes advantage of the fact that when
- 16:39adrenaline is released in the body
- 16:42from the adrenals,
- 16:44it has the effect of also liberating a
- 16:46lot of these killer cells from the
- 16:48immune organs,
- 16:50in particular from the spleen, but from
- 16:51elsewhere as well, and interactions with
- 16:54the lymphatic system, that combat
- 16:56infection.
- 16:59The way this works in the real world is
- 17:02best captured by a study that can be
- 17:05mapped back to so-called Wim Hof
- 17:08breathing. Now, Wim Hof breathing is so
- 17:10named after the so-called Iceman Wim
- 17:13Hof. There are two components to a sort
- 17:15of breathing protocol that he developed
- 17:19that was based also on what's called
- 17:20Tummo breathing, t u m m o. So, before
- 17:23Wim, there was Tummo breathing and many
- 17:26people call this now super oxygenation
- 17:28breathing. So, it's deliberate
- 17:29hyperventilation.
- 17:31Why would somebody want to do this?
- 17:33Well,
- 17:34deliberate hyperventilation done for
- 17:35maybe 25 cycles. So, inhale, exhale,
- 17:38inhale, exhale, inhale, exhale. That
- 17:40pattern of breathing, rapid movements of
- 17:42the diaphragm,
- 17:44will liberate adrenaline from the
- 17:45adrenals. When adrenaline is released in
- 17:47the body, you are in a better position
- 17:50to combat infections.
- 17:52And so, whether or not you breathe very
- 17:54quickly in these cycles of 25 breaths,
- 17:57and regardless of what you call it,
- 17:58doesn't matter. Adrenaline is released.
- 18:00If you take a cold shower, adrenaline is
- 18:03released. If you go into an ice bath,
- 18:05deliberately, and
- 18:07even if you do it non-deliberately,
- 18:09adrenaline is released. You are
- 18:10mimicking the stress response and that
- 18:13adrenaline
- 18:14serves to suppress or combat
- 18:18incoming infections. And this was
- 18:20beautifully shown in a study that was
- 18:21published in a very fine journal, the
- 18:23Proceedings of the National Academy of
- 18:24Sciences for the US.
- 18:26It's it literally called Proceedings of
- 18:28the National Academy of USA to
- 18:30distinguish it from other proceedings of
- 18:32other national academies in other
- 18:33countries.
- 18:36The way the experiment went is that
- 18:38people were injected with endotoxin
- 18:42or in some cases, they were injected
- 18:45with with a bacterial wall that mimics
- 18:47infection. It It gives you a fever. It
- 18:50makes you feel nauseous. It makes you
- 18:51feel sick. It is not pleasant.
- 18:53Half of the people did a particular
- 18:55pattern of breathing that looked very
- 18:57much like the pattern of breathing I
- 18:58described a moment ago of doing 25 deep
- 19:02inhales and exhales followed by an an
- 19:04exhale, holding their breath, then
- 19:06repeating 25 inhales, exhales,
- 19:08holding their breath. So, this would
- 19:09look something like this or if you're
- 19:10listening, it sounds like
- 19:1425-30 times, you'll start feeling heated
- 19:16up. You'll start feeling the adrenaline
- 19:17response. You're liberating adrenaline
- 19:19in your body. Then exhale, hold your
- 19:21breath for 15 seconds,
- 19:23and then repeat. Now, I want to
- 19:24emphasize, never, ever, ever do this
- 19:27anywhere near water. People have passed
- 19:29out. So-called shallow water blackout,
- 19:31people have died. Please don't do it at
- 19:33all unless you get clearance to do it
- 19:34from your doctor, because there are some
- 19:36pulmonary effects and whatnot. And the
- 19:38breath holds should definitely not be
- 19:39done by anyone that has glaucoma or
- 19:41pressure uh you know, concerns for the
- 19:43eyes. But these repeated
- 19:46cycles of breathing that liberate
- 19:47adrenaline
- 19:48allowed the group that did that protocol
- 19:51to essentially experience zero symptoms
- 19:54from the injection of this E. coli,
- 19:56which is remarkable. They had much
- 19:58reduced or no symptoms. They wouldn't
- 20:00feel feverish, they didn't feel sick,
- 20:02they weren't vomiting, no diarrhea,
- 20:04which is remarkable, but makes total
- 20:06sense when you think about the fact that
- 20:07the short-term stress response, that
- 20:09what we typically call the acute stress
- 20:11response, is designed to combat all
- 20:13stressors.
- 20:14Many of us are familiar with the
- 20:15experience of work, work, work, work,
- 20:17work, or taking care of a loved one, or
- 20:19stress, stress, stress, stress, stress,
- 20:20then we finally relax. Maybe we even go
- 20:22on vacation. Like, "Oh, now I'm finally
- 20:24going to get the break." And then we get
- 20:25sick.
- 20:26And that's because the adrenaline
- 20:28response crashed and your immune system
- 20:29crashed with it.
- 20:31So, please understand this. Now, many of
- 20:35you might say, "Well, how long? Is it 2
- 20:36hours? Is it 3 hours?" A lot of you out
- 20:38there that really like specificity. It
- 20:40will vary for everybody. I would just
- 20:42kind of use a rule of thumb. When you
- 20:44are no longer able to achieve good
- 20:46sleep, what good sleep means to you,
- 20:48please see the episodes on sleep if you
- 20:50want more about tools to sleep. When you
- 20:52are no longer able to achieve good
- 20:54sleep, you are now moving from acute
- 20:57stress to chronic stress. You need to be
- 20:58able to turn the stress response off.
- 21:01Okay.
- 21:02So, now let's talk about medium-term
- 21:03stress. Medium-term stress is going to
- 21:06be stress that lasts anywhere from
- 21:09several days to several weeks. What is
- 21:11stress threshold? Well,
- 21:14stress threshold is actually our ability
- 21:17to cognitively regulate what's going on
- 21:20in our body. A lot of stress
- 21:22inoculation,
- 21:24a lot of managing medium-term stress on
- 21:27the on the time scale of weeks or maybe
- 21:29even a couple months. So, we're not
- 21:31talking about years of stress.
- 21:34A lot of that has to do with raising our
- 21:35stress threshold. It's about capacity.
- 21:39And there are very simple tools,
- 21:42excellent tools that will allow us to
- 21:44modulate our
- 21:46capacity for stress. And they look a lot
- 21:47like the tools I just described.
- 21:50They involve placing oneself
- 21:52deliberately into a situation where our
- 21:55adrenaline is increased somewhat, not to
- 21:58the extreme,
- 21:59and then when we are feel flooded with
- 22:01adrenaline,
- 22:03and normally we would panic, it's about
- 22:06cognitively, mentally, emotionally
- 22:09calming ourselves and being comfortable
- 22:11with that response in our body. And what
- 22:14would this look like? You can use
- 22:16the cyclic hyperoxygenation breathing to
- 22:19combat infection if you're feeling kind
- 22:20of run down.
- 22:22And
- 22:23there is also a way in which you can use
- 22:24things like cold showers or if you
- 22:27exercise and you bring your heart rate
- 22:29up very high, you kind of go into that
- 22:31high intensity realm where your heart is
- 22:33beating a little bit harder than you're
- 22:35comfortable with.
- 22:36The key in those moments is to learn to
- 22:38relax the mind while the body is very
- 22:42activated. One way that you can do this,
- 22:44and this is kind of fun, if it's
- 22:45approved by your physician and you're
- 22:48able to do this, you can bring your
- 22:49heart rate up. You could do this through
- 22:51an ice bath if that's your thing or a
- 22:52cold shower or cyclic oxygenation
- 22:54breathing, or you could sprint, or you
- 22:56could go hard on the bike.
- 22:58Whatever it is that brings your heart
- 22:59rate up.
- 23:00And then what you want to do is you want
- 23:02to actually try and calm the mind while
- 23:04your body is in this heightened state of
- 23:06activation.
- 23:07When we are stressed, our pupils dilate.
- 23:10The effect of that pupil dilation is to
- 23:12create tunnel vision. It literally
- 23:14narrows our view of the visual world. We
- 23:15no longer see in panorama.
- 23:18And there's some other effects as well,
- 23:20but that's because the visual system
- 23:21through this cranial nerve system that I
- 23:23described before is tethered and is part
- 23:26of this autonomic nervous system.
- 23:29By deliberately dilating your gaze,
- 23:31meaning not moving your head and eyes
- 23:33around, but by deliberately going from
- 23:35tunnel vision
- 23:37to broader panoramic vision, literally
- 23:39seeing more of your environment all at
- 23:41once, it creates a calming effect on the
- 23:43mind because it releases a particular
- 23:45circuit in the brainstem that's
- 23:46associated with alertness, aka stress.
- 23:50Now, this is very powerful. If you're
- 23:52running, for instance, and you're at max
- 23:54capacity or close to it, where you're
- 23:56kind of hitting like 80, 90% of maximum
- 23:58on the bike, and you dilate your gaze,
- 24:01what you'll find is the mind can relax
- 24:03while the body is in full output. And it
- 24:05this is relates to work that in various
- 24:08communities people are working with this
- 24:10in the sports community, military
- 24:11community, etc. But, it's a form not
- 24:14really of stress inoculation, it's more
- 24:16about raising stress threshold so that
- 24:18the body is going to continue to be in a
- 24:21high alertness, high reactivity mode,
- 24:24high output, but the mind is calm. And
- 24:27so this isn't about unifying mind and
- 24:29body, this is actually about using body
- 24:32to bring up your level of activation,
- 24:34then dissociating, not the
- 24:36clinical dissociation kind of disorders,
- 24:38but dissociating the mental or emotional
- 24:41response from what's going on in your
- 24:42body. And over time, so if you do this,
- 24:45you know, a couple times, you don't have
- 24:46to do this every workout, but if you do
- 24:48this every maybe once a week or so, you
- 24:50start being comfortable at these higher
- 24:52activation states. What once felt
- 24:54overwhelming and like a lot of work, now
- 24:57is
- 24:58manageable. It feels tolerable. So,
- 25:00that's for navigating medium-term
- 25:03stress.
- 25:04And then there's long-term stress. Now,
- 25:06long-term stress is bad. You do not want
- 25:09adrenaline up in your system for a very
- 25:11long time. In fact, you you ideally you
- 25:14would have your stress go up various
- 25:17times throughout the day, but it would
- 25:18never stay elevated and it would never
- 25:20prevent you from getting a good night's
- 25:22sleep. We know that chronic stress,
- 25:24elevated stress, and especially in the
- 25:26so-called type A personalities,
- 25:29creates heart disease, leading killer of
- 25:32for in most every country, but in
- 25:34particular in the US.
- 25:36But by no means do you want to be
- 25:37stressed out all the time chronically
- 25:40for months and months and months and
- 25:41years on end.
- 25:44The best tools, the best mechanisms that
- 25:47we know to modulate long-term stress,
- 25:50might surprise you a little bit.
- 25:53First of all,
- 25:55there are going to be the things that
- 25:55don't surprise you, which is everyone
- 25:57knows getting regular exercise, getting
- 25:59good sleep,
- 26:00um using real-time tools to try and tamp
- 26:02down the stress response, et cetera.
- 26:04That's all going to be really useful.
- 26:07The data really points to the fact that
- 26:10social connection and certain types of
- 26:13social connection in particular are what
- 26:16are going to mitigate or reduce
- 26:19long-term stress. And this is a
- 26:21particularly important issue nowadays
- 26:23where we have all these proxies or
- 26:25surrogates for social connection. You
- 26:28know, we're online and texting with
- 26:29people a lot. Everyone has this kind of
- 26:31need to stay connected to one another.
- 26:33Humans are incredibly social creatures.
- 26:36The way to think about social connection
- 26:37and how it can mitigate
- 26:39some of the long-term effects of stress
- 26:41is really through the systems of
- 26:43neuromodulation, like serotonin.
- 26:46Serotonin again is a neuromodulator.
- 26:48Neuromodulators are a a bit like
- 26:50playlists in the brain. They tend to
- 26:52amplify or bias the likelihood that
- 26:54certain brain circuits and body circuits
- 26:56are going to be activated and that
- 26:58others will not. Serotonin generally
- 27:01gives us feelings of well-being. At very
- 27:02high levels, it makes us feel blissed
- 27:05and it tends to make us feel like we
- 27:06have enough in our immediate
- 27:08environment. When we see somebody that
- 27:10we recognize and trust, serotonin is
- 27:12released in the brain.
- 27:14And that has certain positive effects on
- 27:17the immune system and on other systems
- 27:19of neural repair and and synapses and
- 27:21things that really reinforce connections
- 27:23in the brain and prevent that long-term
- 27:25withering of connections. So, serotonin
- 27:28is tied to social connection. Now,
- 27:30social connection can take many forms.
- 27:32Some of those can be romantic
- 27:34attachments. Those could be familial
- 27:36attachments that are non-romantic
- 27:37friendship, pets,
- 27:40even attachments to things that just
- 27:42delight us. Having a sense of delight, a
- 27:45sense of really enjoying something that
- 27:47you see and engage in, witness, or
- 27:49participate in, that is associated with
- 27:52the serotonin system. And certainly play
- 27:55is one of those things, social
- 27:56connection of various forms. Those are
- 27:58things to invest in. I'll be the first
- 28:00to admit, social connection and
- 28:01friendship and relationships of all
- 28:03kinds to animals or humans or inanimate
- 28:05objects takes work. It takes investment.
- 28:08It takes time in not needing everything
- 28:12to be exactly the way you want it to be.
- 28:13Social connection is something that we
- 28:15work for, but it is incredibly powerful.
- 28:18Finding just a few people, even one, or
- 28:21an animal, or something that you delight
- 28:23in,
- 28:24believe it or not, has very positive
- 28:26effects on mitigating this long-term
- 28:29stress, on improving various aspects of
- 28:32our life as it relates to stress and
- 28:34emotionality.
- 28:35Now, how do you know if you're making
- 28:36serotonin? You don't know in the moment,
- 28:38but you can learn if you pay attention
- 28:41to kind of recognize these feelings of
- 28:43comfort, trust, bliss, delight. And
- 28:46those are not weak terms. Those are not
- 28:49associated just with uh psychological
- 28:51terms. They are they are every bit as
- 28:53physiological as the movement of your
- 28:55muscles or the secretion of adrenaline.
- 28:57Now, there are a plethora of things that
- 28:59will also impact well-being and allow
- 29:01you to
- 29:02modulate your long-term stress. Reduce
- 29:05the likelihood that you'll engage in
- 29:06long-term stress.
- 29:08There are compounds that are not
- 29:10prescription compounds that can modulate
- 29:13the stress system. And sometimes,
- 29:15because of the way that life is, we just
- 29:16don't have the opportunity to control
- 29:19life and to control our response to
- 29:20stress. The three I want to focus on,
- 29:22and one that I think you need to be
- 29:24cautious about that I've mentioned
- 29:25before,
- 29:26include
- 29:28ashwagandha,
- 29:30L-theanine, and melatonin. Let's talk
- 29:32about melatonin first. Melatonin is a
- 29:34hormone secreted from the pineal in
- 29:36direct relationship to how much darkness
- 29:38you are in, not emotional darkness, but
- 29:41light suppresses melatonin. Melatonin
- 29:43helps you fall asleep, it doesn't help
- 29:44you stay asleep. I,
- 29:47personally, do not recommend
- 29:48supplementing melatonin
- 29:50because
- 29:51it's supplemented typically at very high
- 29:53levels.
- 29:54You know, 1 to 3 mg or even more. That
- 29:57is an outrageously high dose. It also
- 29:59has a number of potentially negative
- 30:01effects on the reproductive axis and and
- 30:05hormones there. The other is L-theanine.
- 30:07I've talked about L-theanine, which,
- 30:09provided it's safe for you, can be taken
- 30:11100 mg or 200 mg about a 30 minutes or
- 30:1460 minutes before sleep. It can enhance
- 30:16the transition to sleep and depth of
- 30:18sleep for many people.
- 30:20It it increases GABA, this inhibitory
- 30:22neurotransmitter in the brain. It tends
- 30:23to turn off our forebrain a little bit
- 30:25or reduce the activity of our kind of
- 30:27thinking systems and ruminating systems.
- 30:29Help people fall asleep. But, theanine
- 30:32has also been shown for people that are
- 30:33chronically anxious or chronically
- 30:35stressed to significantly increase
- 30:36relaxation. It is known to have a minor
- 30:38effect on anxiety, but eight studies
- 30:40have shown that. It definitely has a
- 30:42notable effect on stress. The other
- 30:43supplement that can be very useful is
- 30:45ashwagandha. Ashwagandha is known to
- 30:48lower anxiety and cortisol. This is
- 30:51great. I mean, the opportunity for me
- 30:53anyway to be able to take something that
- 30:55can help me reduce my cortisol so that I
- 30:58don't get some of the long-term effects
- 30:59of stress. And I'm not going to take
- 31:00ashwagandha year-round. I would only do
- 31:02this if I was feeling like I wasn't
- 31:03managing my short- and medium-term
- 31:05stress well. So, I don't take it on a
- 31:07regular basis. I do take it when I'm in
- 31:09these
- 31:10times when things are particularly
- 31:11stressful. So, social connection and
- 31:14some supplementation, of course, diet,
- 31:16exercise, sleep for long-term stress.
- 31:19So, I hope today
- 31:21you were able to take a slightly
- 31:23different view of this thing that we
- 31:25call stress, not just see it as evil,
- 31:27but see it as powerful and useful in
- 31:29certain contexts, great for us in
- 31:30certain contexts, and problematic in
- 31:33other contexts, and as well to think
- 31:35about the various tools that I've
- 31:36presented that can allow you to adjust
- 31:39and modulate your internal levels of
- 31:42alertness or calmness so that you can
- 31:43lean more effectively into life, which
- 31:45includes sleep and social connection and
- 31:48the work you have to do, and of course,
- 31:50acknowledges that the events in the
- 31:52world are beyond our control. What's in
- 31:55our control is how we react to them,
- 31:57something that's commonly said in the
- 31:58wellness and self-help and psychology
- 32:01world, but for which there often aren't
- 32:03as many concrete tools that we can
- 32:05really look to and trust in real time.
- 32:08As always, really appreciate your time
- 32:10and attention today. I hope you practice
- 32:13some of the tools if they're right for
- 32:14you. I hope you think hard about stress
- 32:16and how you can control your stress, and
- 32:20above all, as always, thank you for your
- 32:22interest in science.
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