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Tomás de Iriarte y el Neoclasicismo | Fábulas, salseos literarios y el Siglo de las Luces 📜🔥 — Transcript

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  1. 0:00Uh, let's imagine for a moment one of
  2. 0:02the most rigid men, I mean, meticulous
  3. 0:05and obsessed with the rules of all 18
  4. 0:07th-century Spain.
  5. 0:09A true bureaucrat of perfect meter.
  6. 0:12Exactly. A spotless courtier who, well,
  7. 0:14dedicated his entire life to dictating
  8. 0:17what was correct and what was not in
  9. 0:19art. And now let's picture that same
  10. 0:21man being dragged before the fearsome
  11. 0:23tribunal of the Inquisition.
  12. 0:25My goodness, what a dramatic turn.
  13. 0:27Yes, yes. Accused of possessing
  14. 0:30subversive literature and, to add the
  15. 0:31definitive touch of Greek tragedy or a
  16. 0:33soap opera, denounced by his own
  17. 0:35brother. That contrast, so brutal, so
  18. 0:38extreme, is the life of Tomás de
  19. 0:40Iriarte.
  20. 0:41And notice that it's an episode that
  21. 0:43often remains buried under, well, under
  22. 0:45the weight of his image as a boring
  23. 0:46academic of the era. Totally.
  24. 0:49And it's a shame because Iriarte's
  25. 0:51biography distills an intensity that
  26. 0:53completely contradicts that facade of
  27. 0:55neoclassical coldness we usually
  28. 0:56associate with him.
  29. 0:58Well, that is precisely the mission we
  30. 1:01have today in this deep dive, because
  31. 1:03we want to decode this key figure who
  32. 1:06lived between 1750 and 1791.
  33. 1:10An essential figure for understanding
  34. 1:12our literature.
  35. 1:12Sure. And for that, we have a mountain
  36. 1:15of very interesting sources today. We
  37. 1:17have educational dossiers for high
  38. 1:19school and secondary education,
  39. 1:21exhaustive literary analyses, the
  40. 1:23critical introductions from Penguin
  41. 1:25Classics,
  42. 1:26very complete, by the way.
  43. 1:27Yes, very much so. Also historical
  44. 1:29articles from the portal Estandarte and
  45. 1:31various encyclopedia entries.
  46. 1:34And reviewing all this material with an
  47. 1:36analytical eye is frankly fascinating
  48. 1:38because we realize that what is usually
  49. 1:40taught in classrooms as a simple list
  50. 1:43of literary rules that sometimes sounds
  51. 1:45boring, was actually a battlefield of
  52. 1:47egos, inquisitorial trials, and
  53. 1:49betrayals.
  54. 1:50Yes, yes. It seems like 18 th-century
  55. 1:53literature smells of powdered wigs and
  56. 1:56boredom, but Iriarte was the
  57. 1:57protagonist of great literary drama. I
  58. 2:00mean, the guy invented a kind of diss
  59. 2:03track, but with animals to criticize
  60. 2:05the bad art of his contemporaries. I
  61. 2:08love that definition of diss tracks
  62. 2:10with animals. And the value of these
  63. 2:12sources we are handling today is
  64. 2:14massive because they combine metric and
  65. 2:16literary rigor with the necessary
  66. 2:17historical context to understand
  67. 2:19something fundamental.
  68. 2:20What exactly?
  69. 2:22Well, understanding why literature went
  70. 2:24from trying to dazzle with its extreme
  71. 2:27complexity to seeking, above all, to
  72. 2:30educate society. To achieve that
  73. 2:32decoding of Iriarte, the first step is
  74. 2:35to dissect the ideological engine of
  75. 2:37his era,
  76. 2:38in other words, the leap from the
  77. 2:39Baroque to the Enlightenment, right?
  78. 2:41That’s right, the shift from the 17th
  79. 2:43to the 18th century in Spain wasn't
  80. 2:45just an aesthetic transition, it was a
  81. 2:47trauma, a complete reinvention.
  82. 2:49Right, we were coming from the Golden
  83. 2:51Age. Exactly. You’re coming from the
  84. 2:5417 th-century Baroque, marked by
  85. 2:56pessimism, the fleeting nature of life,
  86. 2:58and brutal literary complexity with
  87. 3:00Lope de Vega and Calderón de la Barca.
  88. 3:03And suddenly, a complete change of pace
  89. 3:04.
  90. 3:05Totally. With the arrival of the
  91. 3:07Bourbons in Spain, French influence
  92. 3:09enters full force. Neoclassicism is
  93. 3:11born, the famous Age of Enlightenment,
  94. 3:13and it generates a visceral rejection
  95. 3:15of everything the previous era
  96. 3:17represented.
  97. 3:18In other words, the exhaustion of the
  98. 3:19previous model.
  99. 3:21Indeed, now reason, clarity, and faith
  100. 3:24in progress take precedence, and above
  101. 3:26all, literature must have a didactic
  102. 3:29purpose. It has to teach and correct,
  103. 3:32following classical rules,
  104. 3:33Like the famous three theatrical
  105. 3:35unities, right? Action, time, and place
  106. 3:38.
  107. 3:39Those exact ones. Everything had to be
  108. 3:41measured and justified.
  109. 3:42Okay, let’s unpack this, because a
  110. 3:44question comes to mind. The standard
  111. 3:47narrative is that the Enlightenment
  112. 3:49came to rescue culture from darkness.
  113. 3:52But doesn't it seem terribly boring to
  114. 3:54go from the absolute creative freedom
  115. 3:56of the Baroque to a system where art
  116. 3:58feels like, I don't know, an IKEA
  117. 3:59instruction manual?
  118. 4:02I see why you say that.
  119. 4:03It sounds like they stripped the soul
  120. 4:05out of literature to turn it into
  121. 4:07clockwork. Why would anyone voluntarily
  122. 4:10submit to such stifling rules? What’s
  123. 4:14fascinating here is that this
  124. 4:16perspective assumes creative freedom
  125. 4:18always produces good art, and
  126. 4:20Enlightenment intellectuals like
  127. 4:22Iriarte would argue fervently the
  128. 4:24opposite.
  129. 4:25Seriously?
  130. 4:26Of course. For them, the Baroque chaos
  131. 4:28was already exhausted. The unchecked
  132. 4:30artifice had degenerated into a
  133. 4:32deafening noise that no longer
  134. 4:33contributed anything intellectually
  135. 4:35valid.
  136. 4:36In other words, lots of form, little
  137. 4:37substance.
  138. 4:38Exactly. They needed order to educate a
  139. 4:41new society. The Neoclassical obsession
  140. 4:44with rules wasn't born from a desire to
  141. 4:46bore people, but from an urgent need
  142. 4:48for clarity.
  143. 4:49Reason required order, I suppose.
  144. 4:51That's it; if the goal of art was no
  145. 4:53longer to shock or confuse the viewer,
  146. 4:56but to educate and be useful, the
  147. 4:58vehicle had to be transparent and
  148. 5:00mathematically perfect.
  149. 5:01I see.
  150. 5:02Iriarte embodied this ideal perfectly.
  151. 5:06He didn’t see the corset of rules as
  152. 5:08a prison, but as the necessary
  153. 5:09architecture so the message wouldn't
  154. 5:11collapse.
  155. 5:12And this fits perfectly with his
  156. 5:14biography, from what I see in the
  157. 5:16sources. He was born in 1750 in
  158. 5:18Tenerife, into an aristocratic family,
  159. 5:21but was raised in Madrid.
  160. 5:23Yes. under the tutelage of his uncle
  161. 5:25Juan de Iriarte,
  162. 5:26none other than the King's head
  163. 5:28librarian; in other words, he received
  164. 5:30a humanist education of the highest
  165. 5:32elite, he was an official translator, a
  166. 5:34scholar, but the detail that I think
  167. 5:36anchors this whole obsession with order
  168. 5:38and harmony is his musical side. Ah,
  169. 5:41music, so important.
  170. 5:44Of course, Iriarte played the violin,
  171. 5:46he played the viola, he composed
  172. 5:47symphonies. He even wrote a very long
  173. 5:50didactic poem called "Music" in 1779.
  174. 5:55And music is, in essence, mathematics
  175. 5:58applied to sound.
  176. 5:59Pure proportion. Exactly. And for
  177. 6:02someone immersed in that musical
  178. 6:04harmony, literary dissonance must have
  179. 6:07been physically painful. I can imagine.
  180. 6:10That is the keystone of his thinking.
  181. 6:13Music taught him that beauty is born
  182. 6:16from the proportion of tension resolved
  183. 6:18through technique.
  184. 6:19That makes sense.
  185. 6:20Think about the fact that he frequented
  186. 6:22the gatherings at the Fonda de San
  187. 6:23Sebastián in Madrid.
  188. 6:24With figures like Cadalso, right?
  189. 6:26Yes. And there, the consensus was
  190. 6:28unanimous. Good taste is learned. It is
  191. 6:31not a mystical gift that falls from the
  192. 6:32sky. It is the result of rigorous study
  193. 6:35and knowledge of tradition.
  194. 6:38Which leads us straight to the most
  195. 6:40ingenious tool Iriarte used to inject
  196. 6:43this rigor into society.
  197. 6:45The fable.
  198. 6:46Fables. Yes. That desire to educate and
  199. 6:49correct finds its perfect vehicle in a
  200. 6:51classic format that comes from Aesop,
  201. 6:53from Phaedrus, but here there is a
  202. 6:55total subversion of the format.
  203. 6:58A unique twist on this, truly.
  204. 7:01Of course, because traditionally,
  205. 7:04fables dealt with common moral vices:
  206. 7:07greed, envy, laziness. That was the
  207. 7:10specialty of his great rival, by the
  208. 7:12way, Félix María de Samaniego,
  209. 7:14who wrote for a more general or
  210. 7:16children's audience.
  211. 7:17Exactly. But Iriarte takes this format
  212. 7:20and turns it into a weapon, a
  213. 7:22masterclass. The great originality of
  214. 7:26his literary fables, which were
  215. 7:28published in 1782 with 76 poems, is
  216. 7:31that he uses animals to give lessons on
  217. 7:33literary theory.
  218. 7:35It is a super bold move. His beasts
  219. 7:38criticize plagiarism, obscurity, bad
  220. 7:40taste, and the pedantry of other
  221. 7:42writers.
  222. 7:44It's like pure, hard-core
  223. 7:45metaliterature.
  224. 7:46Totally. Literature that talks about
  225. 7:48how to make literature.
  226. 7:50So that our listeners can visualize it,
  227. 7:53it's as if a film critic made a
  228. 7:55Hollywood movie exclusively to mock
  229. 7:57directors who use too many special
  230. 7:59effects or screenwriters who copy plots
  231. 8:02.
  232. 8:03I think that's a perfect analogy. He
  233. 8:05replaces moralizing about how to be a
  234. 8:07good person with a ruthless taxonomy of
  235. 8:10the vices of the art world.
  236. 8:12Well, moving from theory to practice, I
  237. 8:14think it's vital to analyze the exact
  238. 8:16texts students see in class to
  239. 8:18demonstrate this stylistic genius of
  240. 8:20Iriarte.
  241. 8:21Let's get to it. The most iconic one,
  242. 8:23without a doubt, is "The Flute-Playing
  243. 8:25Donkey."
  244. 8:25An absolute classic.
  245. 8:26The story is simple. A donkey
  246. 8:29accidentally snorts into a flute left
  247. 8:31in the meadow by a shepherd.
  248. 8:33And the flute makes a sound.
  249. 8:34That's it. The flute emits a harmonic
  250. 8:37sound, and the donkey, without
  251. 8:38hesitation, thinks he's a musical
  252. 8:40genius.
  253. 8:41What a wonderful image. The texts
  254. 8:44capture the famous moral which goes: "
  255. 8:46Without rules of art, there are donkeys
  256. 8:48who get it right once by chance."
  257. 8:51It is a frontal attack against the myth
  258. 8:53of sudden inspiration. Uh,
  259. 8:55sure. And I wonder, who would be the
  260. 8:57flute-playing donkeys of today?
  261. 8:59Oof! Good question.
  262. 9:01I mean, I'd take it to the current
  263. 9:02digital ecosystem. They could perfectly
  264. 9:05be those content creators or
  265. 9:06one-hit-wonder viral musicians. One-hit
  266. 9:09wonders who triumph purely because of
  267. 9:11the TikTok algorithm without having
  268. 9:13real technique.
  269. 9:14Yes. Yes. The algorithm would be the
  270. 9:17equivalent of the chance of snorting
  271. 9:18into the flute.
  272. 9:19Exactly. You succeed one day and you
  273. 9:21already think you're the authoritative
  274. 9:22voice of a generation.
  275. 9:24The analogy is super pertinent because
  276. 9:26the mechanism of this poem is brilliant
  277. 9:27precisely because of its meter. Iriarte
  278. 9:30uses very short hexasyllabic verses,
  279. 9:32six syllables, right?
  280. 9:34Yes, six. And this choice creates a
  281. 9:37syncopated, light, almost burlesque
  282. 9:39rhythm. The form of the poem reflects
  283. 9:43the shallowness of the donkey's act.
  284. 9:46For Iriarte, art is a craft that
  285. 9:48requires discipline, not luck. Exactly.
  286. 9:52But his disdain for bad art branches
  287. 9:54out in other directions. Another fable
  288. 9:57that exemplifies this perfectly and is
  289. 9:59studied a lot is "The Frog and the
  290. 10:01Tadpole."
  291. 10:03Ah, I love this one.
  292. 10:04Here the criticism is no longer
  293. 10:06directed at the lack of technique or
  294. 10:08randomness, but at the excess of empty
  295. 10:10decoration.
  296. 10:11Yes, that fable presents a very
  297. 10:13powerful image. The tadpole is on the
  298. 10:16riverbank, amazed by a lush and
  299. 10:18spectacular reed bed. But the wind
  300. 10:20knocks down a reed, and the frog, the
  301. 10:22mother, takes the opportunity to show
  302. 10:24him the truth inside.
  303. 10:25And the fragment is devastating. It
  304. 10:28says, "On the outside very smooth, very
  305. 10:30shiny. On the inside all spongy, all
  306. 10:33vain.
  307. 10:34On the inside all spongy, all vain."
  308. 10:37What a way to crush someone! It's a
  309. 10:40direct criticism of what he called
  310. 10:42poetry with too much deadwood, right?
  311. 10:44Exactly. He is attacking that work
  312. 10:47which seems very pretty on the outside,
  313. 10:49full of bombastic words and ornaments,
  314. 10:51but which on the inside is completely
  315. 10:53empty of ideas, like a hollow reed.
  316. 10:55Pure 18 th-century posturing,
  317. 10:57exactly, literary posturing.
  318. 11:00But what is truly masterful about "The
  319. 11:02Frog and the Tadpole" is not just the
  320. 11:04message, but how he constructs it
  321. 11:05structurally.
  322. 11:07Tell me more about that.
  323. 11:08Well, Iriarte practices what he
  324. 11:10preaches. Here he uses a "silva,"
  325. 11:12which is a combination of verses, right
  326. 11:14?
  327. 11:14Yes. It combines seven-syllable verses,
  328. 11:17heptasyllables, with 11-syllable ones,
  329. 11:19hendecasyllables. And it's no
  330. 11:21coincidence. So, he moves from the
  331. 11:23short, playful verse of the donkey to
  332. 11:25something much more complex. Exactly.
  333. 11:27The silva requires absolute rhythmic
  334. 11:29control. Iriarte uses an enormous
  335. 11:32variety of metrics in his 76 fables to
  336. 11:35demonstrate his skill. He is showing
  337. 11:37that he does indeed master the rules he
  338. 11:39demands of others.
  339. 11:40Flexing his literary muscles. Come on.
  340. 11:42Literally. And we must make quick
  341. 11:44mentions of other fables so that our
  342. 11:46listeners, especially if they are
  343. 11:48students, take note,
  344. 11:49go ahead, because they are excellent.
  345. 11:52For example, "The Bee and the Drones,"
  346. 11:54which is a sharp critique of plagiarism
  347. 11:56and appropriating others 'work, or "The
  348. 11:58Bear, the Monkey, and the Pig," which
  349. 12:00speaks to the need for sound critical
  350. 12:02judgment.
  351. 12:03And let's not forget "The Two Rabbits,"
  352. 12:05where the famous expression about
  353. 12:07whether they are greyhounds or podencos
  354. 12:08comes from.
  355. 12:09Yes, yes. Those two rabbits who waste
  356. 12:12time arguing uselessly about the breed
  357. 12:14of the dogs chasing them instead of
  358. 12:15running away,
  359. 12:16and they get eaten. Right,
  360. 12:18distracted by absurd debates.
  361. 12:19Well, all this paints a picture of an
  362. 12:22implacable Iriarte, super-rational,
  363. 12:24obsessed with clarity. A man who
  364. 12:27defended order above all else. But, and
  365. 12:30here is the kicker, if we connect this
  366. 12:32to the big picture of his life, his
  367. 12:34personal life was full of irrational
  368. 12:36conflicts.
  369. 12:37Well, he was the personified
  370. 12:39contradiction of his era; no matter how
  371. 12:41much the Age of Enlightenment tried to
  372. 12:43impose reason, literary drama and
  373. 12:45passions were the order of the day.
  374. 12:47What a war of egos was going on.
  375. 12:49It was outrageous. Iriarte claimed in
  376. 12:51the prologue of his fables to be the
  377. 12:53first original creator of fables in
  378. 12:55Spanish.
  379. 12:55And of course, that didn't amuse
  380. 12:57Samaniego one bit,
  381. 12:58it infuriated him completely. Samaniego
  382. 13:00had published his own earlier and took
  383. 13:02it as a direct attack.
  384. 13:03Because saying, "I am the first," is
  385. 13:05just looking for a fight.
  386. 13:06Totally. And he didn't just have
  387. 13:09problems with Samaniego, he also had a
  388. 13:11fierce enmity with Juan Pablo Forner.
  389. 13:13Ah, yes. the one who published that
  390. 13:15satire against him, right? The Learned
  391. 13:17Ass.
  392. 13:18Exactly. Imagine the level of gossip
  393. 13:21back then, writing pamphlets and
  394. 13:23satires to tear each other down. The
  395. 13:26court was highly entertained by these
  396. 13:27squabbles.
  397. 13:29But anyway, moving from literary salon
  398. 13:31fights to the dark turn of this
  399. 13:33reversal. Because the most shocking
  400. 13:36fact for the audience, I’m sure, is
  401. 13:37that this great defender of courtly
  402. 13:39rules ended up condemned by the
  403. 13:40Inquisition. Yes, it’s a brutal
  404. 13:43turning point in his life.
  405. 13:45And the most twisted part of it all, as
  406. 13:47we mentioned at the beginning, is the
  407. 13:49family betrayal. He was actually
  408. 13:50denounced by his own brother,
  409. 13:52by the Dominican friar Juan Tomás de
  410. 13:54Iriarte; I mean, turning your own
  411. 13:56brother over to the Inquisition, that's
  412. 13:59heavy. And why exactly did he report
  413. 14:02him?
  414. 14:03Well, for having clandestine books in
  415. 14:05his private library. Iriarte was
  416. 14:07reading French deist and materialist
  417. 14:09thinkers, authors like Voltaire and
  418. 14:12d’Holbach.
  419. 14:13Authors who were strictly forbidden in
  420. 14:15Spain,
  421. 14:16strictly forbidden. They were the
  422. 14:18ideological enemy of religion and the
  423. 14:20traditional monarchy. And of course,
  424. 14:23for a courtier of his level to be
  425. 14:25reading that in secret was a scandal.
  426. 14:28This paradox is mind-blowing. I mean,
  427. 14:30the man who publicly defends a measured
  428. 14:32, moral art perfectly aligned with the
  429. 14:34established order, in the privacy of
  430. 14:36his home, consumes the most radical and
  431. 14:38subversive texts in Europe.
  432. 14:40It’s the duality of the Spanish
  433. 14:41Enlightenment. One foot in rational
  434. 14:43progress and the other foot trapped in
  435. 14:45the church’s social control.
  436. 14:47And what did they do to him? Because
  437. 14:49the Inquisition in the 18th century
  438. 14:50didn't burn people in the public square
  439. 14:52anymore, I assume.
  440. 14:53No. Fortunately, bonfires were no
  441. 14:54longer common,
  442. 14:55but the punishment was more of a public
  443. 14:57and psychological humiliation.
  444. 14:59He had to retract.
  445. 15:01Yes, they forced him to retract his
  446. 15:03philosophical errors, perform spiritual
  447. 15:05exercises, and complete a series of
  448. 15:07dogmatic penances. For such a proud
  449. 15:10intellectual to be forced to submit to
  450. 15:12this ritual, my goodness, it must have
  451. 15:14been devastating.
  452. 15:16Undoubtedly. But hey, he didn't let
  453. 15:18that sink him entirely, did he?
  454. 15:20True,
  455. 15:20because records show that he also
  456. 15:22brought his moral ideas to theatrical
  457. 15:24success.
  458. 15:24Yes, with comedies in prose and verse
  459. 15:26like The Pampered Young Man and The
  460. 15:28Spoiled Young Lady. Works that tried to
  461. 15:31educate the youth of the upper classes.
  462. 15:33And also, showing that desire to
  463. 15:35innovate he had, he introduced a new
  464. 15:38format in Spain, the melodrame.
  465. 15:40Ah, yes. With the work Guzmán el Bueno
  466. 15:42.
  467. 15:42A melodrame is basically a dramatic
  468. 15:44monologue where the actor’s
  469. 15:45transitions are accompanied by an
  470. 15:47orchestra.
  471. 15:48It is the perfect fusion of his two
  472. 15:50passions, theater and music, uniting
  473. 15:52human emotion with musical structure.
  474. 15:55Everything fits. The truth is that,
  475. 15:57recapping why Iriarte is so fundamental
  476. 15:59, it is clear that he managed to unite
  477. 16:01neoclassical rigor. with humor and
  478. 16:04irony,
  479. 16:05and that is what makes it so
  480. 16:06meritorious. He turned literary theory,
  481. 16:08which on paper is usually super arid,
  482. 16:10into something accessible and enduring
  483. 16:12in the Spanish school canon.
  484. 16:14The thing is, Iriarte's fables, deep
  485. 16:16down, teach us to be critical consumers
  486. 16:18of culture. They invite us to look
  487. 16:21beyond the superficial, the visually
  488. 16:23attractive, to seek real substance and
  489. 16:25originality. They alert us not to be
  490. 16:27fooled by empty ornamentation,
  491. 16:30and that idea precisely leaves us with
  492. 16:33a provocative thought to close this
  493. 16:35immersion, something our listeners can
  494. 16:37explore on their own.
  495. 16:40Let's see, tell me.
  496. 16:41Well, we have seen that Tomás de
  497. 16:43Iriarte wrote his fables to warn that
  498. 16:45true art requires study, rigor, and
  499. 16:47method, as opposed to success by chance
  500. 16:49or the empty decoration of the
  501. 16:51flute-playing donkey. Right, art as a
  502. 16:54discipline, not an accident.
  503. 16:56Well then, what would Iriarte think
  504. 16:59today of generative artificial
  505. 17:01intelligences?
  506. 17:02Wow, what a great question.
  507. 17:06The fact is that today, these
  508. 17:07intelligences can create poems with
  509. 17:09perfect meter, songs, or spectacular
  510. 17:11images in seconds without understanding
  511. 17:13a single rule of art; they just process
  512. 17:16data. It’s true, they have no
  513. 17:19consciousness of what they do.
  514. 17:20Exactly. And therein lies the great
  515. 17:23unknown. Are these artificial
  516. 17:25intelligence tools the ultimate
  517. 17:27expression of enlightened progress, the
  518. 17:29mathematical perfection Iriarte sought
  519. 17:31so much, or are they actually the
  520. 17:33definitive flute-playing donkey of our
  521. 17:35era?
  522. 17:36The perfect mechanism that manages to
  523. 17:39produce beauty by pure statistical
  524. 17:41chance. Oof! You’ve left me thinking.
  525. 17:44Well, with that reflection, we leave
  526. 17:45the audience for today. It has been a
  527. 17:47fascinating analysis. Until the next
  528. 17:49immersion.
  529. 17:50Until next time.

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