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0:00Thank you for coming on last minute. You
0:01were going to come on as the second
0:02guest, but uh yeah, Eric Vorhees clearly
0:05does not with us.
0:07>> Man, bro, what'd you guys do?
0:08>> He hates us. I don't know.
0:10>> No, he had he had an emergency. We'll
0:12have him on next week or one of the
0:13following weeks. I was excited about Do
0:15you know anything about him?
0:16>> No. No. Yeah, you mentioned the name. I
0:18have no clue.
0:20>> So, this show, what do you think about
0:21this show first off?
0:22>> I I'm I was pumped about it. I watched
0:24the full the full first one that you
0:26guys did. It was awesome.
0:28>> Yeah. I I think that this is um I mean
0:32obviously there's a whole lot of uh
0:34these like stock and crypto shows but I
0:38think you guys are bringing like a fresh
0:40youthful energy to it where we can mix
0:43the I mean it's kind of what I do online
0:45you mix like
0:46>> entertainment with education and you
0:49know put it out to the masses because I
0:52mean we saw um what has happened with
0:55other finance uh podcasts that get like
0:59very little viewership, you know,
1:00getting acquired for millions of
1:02dollars, which is just insane. Like
1:04imagine at what scale, you know, you
1:06would be able to bring this to if you
1:08guys can get like a whole lot more
1:10viewership, which I mean, so far has
1:12been the case.
1:12>> I think something that we're touching on
1:14too, which I feel like a lot of these
1:16like more traditional finance tech shows
1:18ignore, is um an emphasis on attention.
1:21And we we kind of like open this show up
1:23with that and we we talked about Did you
1:25watch Do you watch Thread Guy at all?
1:27>> Yeah. Yeah. Did you watch his uh
1:28interview with Chris Camillo?
1:30>> No,
1:31>> I haven't yet. Are you familiar with
1:32Chris Camilo though?
1:34>> No. What? Who is he?
1:35>> Big narrative trader, bull posts,
1:37Amazon. [ __ ] brilliant guy. Super
1:39super smart guy. I think he's my
1:41favorite. He's like I think he's
1:42becoming my goat.
1:43>> Yeah, he he trades on narratives and
1:44momentum. He flipped 20k into 80 mil
1:46just trading stocks and like
1:48>> firing hard into like single names that
1:50he thought were undervalued and then
1:52riding um those trends and just like
1:54rotating really aggressively. The same
1:56way we rotate aggressively in crypto
1:57like in 2021 it was like Salana, Luna,
2:00Avac when one's not moving another one.
2:02>> He behaves he behaves in traditional
2:03stocks and trading traditional stocks as
2:05if he was in crypto. He sounds like a
2:07guy who lives in crypto but he he
2:09doesn't.
2:10>> Stocks is the move now in my opinion
2:13>> for sure. We were just talking about
2:15that is crypto entering a bull market.
2:17What was your final conclusion on that?
2:19I I think that yes, I I'll say yes, but
2:22I just think I don't think Bitcoin and
2:24ETH are going to outperform in the same
2:26way that the leading other leading
2:27assets are. I think Zcash and I think
2:29Hype are both going to trend to all-time
2:31highs over the next few months. Um, but
2:33I think if I was like, how to split my
2:36portfolio right now, it would probably
2:38be like 70% stocks, 30% crypto. That's
2:40how I would I would do the split. Um, I
2:42know TJR, you traded crypto, you trade
2:44stocks. um tell us a little bit about
2:46like your story with trading, how you
2:48started with trading and then um how you
2:50switched not switched but like got into
2:53content from trading and like your view
2:55on how that's that's beneficial for
2:57people.
2:58>> Yeah, for sure. So, I first learned
3:00about crypto when I was a freshman in
3:02high school. There was a senior on our
3:04football team. Um he was like kind of
3:08just like the dude that could get [ __ ]
3:10on the black market was always like kind
3:12of a weird guy. Um, and he was on our
3:16football team and essentially just like
3:18whatever gave us the whole Bitcoin's
3:20going to change the world pitch. Um, and
3:23he ended up getting a brand new I think
3:26at the time it was like the i8 butterfly
3:28doors license plate said Bitcoin. Um,
3:32and once I saw that I was like, "Okay,
3:34I'm freaking sold." You know, like this
3:36dude was able to pretty much just say
3:37like, "Fuck everything. I'm able to do
3:39this." And as a high schooler, I'd never
3:41seen anything like that. Yeah.
3:42>> Um and then from there just like pursued
3:45crypto um pretty hard and then that's
3:49really what led me to get into trading.
3:51Started out trading um currencies and
3:54that was like okay I was trading the
3:58pound against the yen for a bit and then
4:00I would trade gold as well. Um
4:02>> what gave you the idea to do that
4:04>> bro? I literally just looked up like day
4:07trading on YouTube. Um, and you know,
4:10like
4:11>> literally. Yeah. Um, and then from
4:14there,
4:15>> uh, was doing that pretty much all
4:17throughout high school. And then the
4:192020 bull run is really where I made the
4:22majority of my money. It was just like
4:23Salana. Everything was built on Salana.
4:25And then from there, once I had like a
4:28fat stack of cash, um, trading became a
4:31lot easier. I think I'm sure a lot of
4:34you guys can maybe relate to that where
4:36when you no longer are trying to like
4:38forcefully make trading uh work like you
4:42need it to pay rent or put food on the
4:45table. Um it becomes a lot easier to
4:48trade because you're not so worried
4:49about the risk. You're not nearly as
4:51emotional or as emotionally connected to
4:53the money that you're risking. Um and
4:56then from there I gradually switched
4:58over to just trading equities and doing
5:00futures. So now I only trade the S&P 500
5:03and NASDAQ and I've been doing that for
5:07for a while now only ES and NAS NASDAQ
5:11for like the past two and a half three
5:13years.
5:13>> So not only are you trading against
5:15attention and with that kind of at the
5:16forefront but you're also like I mean is
5:19it fair to say to say that attention is
5:21kind of the most important piece of like
5:22your entire business and like you as a
5:25as a brand and as a personality on the
5:26internet?
5:27>> Oh bro. Oh yeah. Yeah. I sorry I forgot
5:29to mention the like social media come
5:31up. So yeah, I started doing social
5:33media. It was the I want to say like the
5:37first semester of my sophomore year of
5:41college. Um and then I ended up dropping
5:44out right after right after that because
5:47that was when everything just hit
5:48all-time highs and obviously made a bag
5:51from crypto. And then I ended up moving
5:53out here to Puerto Rico to avoid all
5:55taxes. Um and then
5:57>> smart
5:58>> that smart.
5:59>> Yeah. So that is moving to Puerto Rico
6:02is really what like really kicked off my
6:05influencer
6:07um career because I, you know, wasn't
6:10really living in like a college town
6:11anymore and I wasn't really like
6:14constricted to other people's opinions
6:16of like
6:17>> and let's face it, what the [ __ ] else is
6:18there to do in Puerto Rico, right? So
6:19it's like
6:20>> Yeah. Yeah.
6:22Yeah.
6:24>> No, genuinely like I got out here and I
6:26looked around and there was the only
6:27friends that I could make were 50 years
6:29old or older and it was like, "Okay,
6:32what are these guys doing? They're
6:33working." So I only trade for an hour
6:35and a half, two hours in the morning, so
6:36I might as well make Tik Toks and
6:38YouTube videos on how to do this [ __ ]
6:40Um, so
6:41>> so it changed your life in two ways
6:42really. And obviously one was more
6:43calculated and financially um charged,
6:47but the second one like Yeah, that's
6:49that's interesting. We've actually never
6:50talked about that, but that's that's
6:51cool.
6:52>> Yeah. And now, I mean, bro, I see like
6:55attention as just the best currency
6:59nowadays. Um, you know, like obviously I
7:01do my trading in the morning, but I'm
7:02killing two birds, one stone. Like, I'm
7:04streaming my trading on kick in the
7:07morning and then after that, I'm
7:08continuing the stream going IRL or doing
7:1120 30 Tik Toks during the day or making
7:14a YouTube video. Like if I'm I need to
7:16be putting out as much content as
7:18possible because I just see where the
7:19world's going. And you you need to have
7:21a social presence.
7:23>> We got to pick your brain on the short
7:24form. Tik Tok, Instagram real. You got
7:26to do that. You got to do that because
7:27you are that is definitely like
7:29>> in my opinion like why anybody knows who
7:32you are. Like that's really how you and
7:34[ __ ] kind of um
7:35>> like a like a [ __ ] virus infected
7:37everybody's timelines and everybody's
7:39reels. Um, and again, you're just like
7:41you're packaging and presenting like you
7:43said content like these subjects that
7:46we're discussing. We're not the only
7:47people who are successful or whoever
7:48made money trading, right? But the way
7:50we're packaging it and delivering it and
7:52and the subjects that we're pairing it
7:53with, like this attention piece, like
7:55that's what this show ultimately is
7:57about. It's about, you know, AI is going
7:59to disrupt the [ __ ] out of everything.
8:00We talked last time I hung out, we hung
8:02out, when was that? It was in LA.
8:04>> Yeah. I can't remember when that was.
8:06>> We went for a little coffee walk. It was
8:08[ __ ] cute. But I was like super
8:10pilled on the AI [ __ ] It's like right
8:12when I set up Open Claw, I'm like, "Bro,
8:13you got to go home and set this [ __ ]
8:14up." Where are you at with that right
8:16now? Where you at with AI? How is it How
8:17is it worked its way into your
8:19dayto-day? Are you [ __ ]
8:21>> Yeah, I just clawed the [ __ ] out of
8:24everything. Um, and for me
8:28within a most of I mean I try and use AI
8:32as much as possible but I feel like if
8:35you have like a software company for
8:38example obviously AI is going to be able
8:41to help you out immensely. But for me a
8:44lot of like for me it's just trading and
8:46trading AI isn't necessarily going to
8:48help me out too much at least right now.
8:50Um, and then content. I'm the only one
8:52that can be in front of the camera. So,
8:55a lot of my business is just like I'm
8:58just asking it advice for little things.
9:00And it's helped helped a bit on like the
9:02clothing brand side of things that me
9:04and my uh my business partner run like
9:07to be able to do like ads, SMS, and
9:09email. Um, but I feel like it's at least
9:13where I'm at right now. Do
9:14>> you think you could be doing more or
9:15should be doing more with it? Do you
9:18feel that or do you or just
9:20>> to be honest? Yes. But something that
9:24all of the most successful people that
9:26I've ever met in my life have told me is
9:29like do what you're good at. And
9:31>> what I've seen that I'm good at that I
9:34will never be replaced at is being in
9:36front of a camera. Um, and then also
9:38being in front of a chart. So, and right
9:41now AI can't necessarily completely
9:43replace me. You can still tell that it's
9:45an AI version of me. So until that
9:48becomes the case, that's when I would
9:50want to, you know, be able to actually
9:52implement that. I have implemented it
9:53with short form and being able to
9:55massproduce clips. Yeah, that's a little
9:57a little gem that a lot of you guys
9:59probably aren't hip to, but yeah, I'm
10:00getting like,
10:01>> well, that's what we preach. It's like
10:03use it for what it's worth. It's a tool,
10:04right? Be the human element. Be the best
10:07version of like you said, whatever
10:09you're good at. Um add emphasis and
10:11really that's kind of we're kind of
10:12saying the same thing in different ways.
10:14I think that you put all your eggs in
10:15the baskets that make sense. Like you
10:17said, for you it's being in front of a
10:18camera and being in front of charts. But
10:20um Z, I don't know. It's safe to say
10:23what percentage of this show does
10:25[ __ ] Claude produce realistically
10:26with the [ __ ] like I'll share it
10:28right now.
10:28>> We do a lot.
10:29>> Um
10:30>> look at this. There's there's like a
10:31there's like a
10:32>> we do topics with links and [ __ ]
10:34hooks and stuff and Claude does this
10:36whole [ __ ] thing and like
10:37>> we're recording all of our How do How do
10:41we get him back in the middle?
10:43Oh, three hosts here. Uh we uh we we rec
10:47I record every single meeting that I'm
10:49in with whether it's with lawyers,
10:51finance people on the market bubble team
10:54and you know record it with Gemini and
10:56feed it to this thing. And and the way
10:58that I've been using it, I think it's
10:59interesting for us three because there's
11:00so much readily available information
11:02about us online. And I think we talked
11:04about this on our walk, but it's like,
11:06yo, learn me and understand me in every
11:10single part of my business and
11:11everything that I'm involved in and
11:12invested in as much as you possibly can
11:15and highlight blind spots or things that
11:17you think I could be doing better. All
11:19the way from like your health and what
11:20you're doing, what you're eating every
11:22day to I don't know. It's it's it's
11:24that's kind of how I use it like really
11:26for everything. And I think I think it's
11:28super valuable to just like
11:30>> give it as much information as possible
11:32about you, your business, everything
11:33that you're doing and just allow it to
11:35build this like this profile on you and
11:37understand you better than yourself
11:38because that's where we're headed,
11:39right? Like
11:40>> yeah,
11:40>> we have to use use I a lot at Bullpen.
11:43Um, so one of the the key like
11:47advantages of Poly Market, like them
11:49having all of their data on chain allows
11:51us to do a lot with indexing that data,
11:54looking at the top traders, looking at
11:55all the the information that we get from
11:58that. Um, and so like we have a lot that
12:02we're able to do with AI, the the CL the
12:04CLI, which is the terminal essentially
12:07that's works with claude code um, and
12:10bullpen. If you ever wanted to like
12:12build a skill to look at certain sports
12:14trends or like look at certain
12:15predictions that people are are are
12:16looking at um you can do all that um
12:19directly in your terminal with with what
12:20we built there and also a lot of like
12:22the data around whales. Like here we
12:24have our page on predictions. This is
12:26like our whales page. Um and you see
12:29this guy is like a 55% win rate win rate
12:32has like 800k plus P&L. Um, they've also
12:36built out like if you just wanted to
12:38copy trade this dude, you could put how
12:40much you would have copy trade. Um, max
12:43size per position, max size per like
12:45trader slippage on each trade. Um, if
12:48you wanted to not use any of these
12:49limits, you can do that too. Um, but all
12:51these things like a lot of the stuff
12:53that we've built is a lot is used by AI.
12:56AI is in our system to build a lot of
12:59these different things. Um, I know TGR
13:01you're you're big on Poly Market. Is
13:03there anything you're looking at like
13:04trading right now with predictions wise?
13:06Um,
13:07>> yeah. So, my boy just sent me this. I
13:09don't want to take any any claim for
13:11this, but my boy sent me this this
13:13morning. Um, and I want to hear you
13:15guys' thoughts on this because I'm
13:17personally going to hammer it. So, I'm
13:19going to I'll read you.
13:20>> You sound I will say this. You sounded
13:21genuinely excited when I called you
13:23today. You said, "Yo, I have some
13:24[ __ ]
13:25>> I am excited. I am excited.
13:27>> Crazy World Cup alpha. Paul, you're
13:29about to get into it. You're about to
13:30dump it all on me." And I said, "Save it
13:31for the show." Okay.
13:33>> So, this is the first time we're hearing
13:34about it.
13:34>> Okay. So, this is Okay, this is maybe
13:36like part of my degenerate side showing,
13:39but World Cup is coming up. And so, this
13:42is this is one of my friends who's like
13:45overly loaded. Actually, he might be on
13:49X, but he's anonymous um massive uh
13:52memecoin guy. Um, so he said essentially
13:55you're able to buy a dollar for 80 cents
13:59right now on Poly Market via the World
14:02Cup. So he says you pretty much I'll
14:05just read this word for word on the top
14:07eight teams on World Cup Poly Market.
14:10You buy the same amount of shares for
14:13each of the teams. And the theory is
14:16that by buying the top eight, you're
14:18buying around pretty much 80% of the
14:21market because odds that one of those
14:24teams doesn't win the World Cup is very
14:26[ __ ] slip.
14:27>> Le less than 20% for sure. Surely.
14:29>> Exactly. So you're you're buying more
14:31than 80% of the total market.
14:33>> This could be a little This could be A
14:35BANGER.
14:36>> THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. That's what I'm
14:37saying.
14:39>> Okay. So again, you're assuming that one
14:42of the leading eight teams is going to
14:44win, which would cash out at a dollar.
14:48So if you put if you buy the same amount
14:50of shares across all of the top eight
14:53teams, then again, if you were to risk
14:56$30,000, you would essentially be able
14:58to make $6,000. It's not it's not
15:00anything crazy, but again, what are the
15:02odds of, you know, not one of the top 18
15:05winning?
15:06>> No, it makes perfect sense.
15:07>> World Cup. So, I'm per I'm personally
15:10hammering it.
15:11>> I think I think I'm gonna take this,
15:12bro, because Yeah, the top that makes
15:14sense. The top eight top eight teams,
15:17>> bro. I don't know [ __ ] about soccer,
15:19bro. I'm I'm way football.
15:21>> But what you're saying just logically
15:22makes perfect sense. And these these
15:24opportunities obviously exist in sports.
15:25Like, you can [ __ ] slam Serena
15:27Williams to win her [ __ ] 150th
15:30consecutive tennis match. Actually, have
15:31a real here's the [ __ ] word of the
15:33day again, anecdote. Real life. My
15:35friend, my friend back home, degenerate
15:37gambler, slammed some Serena Williams
15:39tennis thing. Like that's where he was
15:40at. $1,000 to win [ __ ] 50 bucks. But
15:43it's like so guaranteed. And he actually
15:45ended up losing. So there obviously is
15:46still
15:48wait.
15:50>> It was way worse than that, bro. He lost
15:51like 20 bands doing that.
15:53>> Thousand to win 50.
15:54>> I'm making up this number. it was closer
15:56to probably a 20 bands of money that he
15:59didn't have um to win probably a couple
16:01racks, you know, but in his mind it's
16:03just like let me farm this quick easy,
16:06you know, $1,000. But um no, but but but
16:09the 20% discrepancy is [ __ ] crazy.
16:12Like that that's probably the real odds
16:14of that if you ask [ __ ] Claude. I
16:16mean, I can do it right now.
16:17>> I wonder
16:19I'm going to ask Claude. I'm going to
16:20ask Claude right now. I'm going to ask
16:21Claude.
16:21>> Yeah, that's that is interesting. I mean
16:23that the the thing I think with with
16:25with poly market and predictions because
16:27they're so new and because there's not a
16:29lot of volume on them in some certain
16:30markets there's a lot of inefficiencies
16:32that retail specifically can take
16:34advantage of. Um it's kind of similar to
16:37what the Chris Camila guy was talking
16:38about. It's like there's areas where if
16:40you're not a large entity that needs to
16:42trade like billions of dollars, there's
16:44certain areas in the market where you
16:45just can be better than a fund is. And I
16:47think it's the same thing with
16:48prediction markets. Um there's a lot of
16:50areas that you can trade where you might
16:52just have an advantage, have more
16:53knowledge on that certain topic than
16:55somebody or you see something that moves
16:57slower than um something else. Like a
16:58lot of people have made bots
17:01specifically for tailing people that are
17:03doing well or tailing or adop adapting
17:07uh to changes in other markets that like
17:09poly market's not the first for. So it's
17:11definitely an area you can you can make
17:13money on.
17:14>> That might be a little money glitch,
17:15brother. I might have to slam that as
17:17well. What's What's the uh
17:19>> I might have just said that as well. 100
17:21bands win win win a quick 20. It's like
17:23guaranteed.
17:24>> That's what I'm saying. That's what I
17:26was thinking. Like, yo, risk risk a 100
17:29rags.
17:29>> 100.
17:30>> Yeah, that's that's
17:33Oh, we might have lost them.
17:35>> Yeah.
17:35>> No, sorry. Sorry. My [ __ ]
17:38>> um Are you the Isn't the World Cup in
17:40New York? It's here, right?
17:42>> It's in the US. Yeah. Yeah,
17:43>> it's in I think some of the games are in
17:45It's in New York, right? Wait, wait,
17:47hold on now. Hold on, hold on, hold on,
17:48hold on.
17:49>> There's one in Miami. I know that.
17:54>> It's saying it's saying 20%. It's it's
17:56it's it's odds. It's odds for the top
18:00for somebody in the top. This is clawed.
18:02I didn't give it any other context. I
18:03just gave it what do you think the odds
18:04the top eight favored teams, whatever.
18:06And um
18:09it says 20. It says combine 80%. So
18:12>> So you chance
18:13>> Poly Market's accurate. I guess you're
18:15not really getting a ton of
18:18I don't know. When's the last time
18:20somebody out of the top eight though
18:22won? Is that
18:22>> That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm
18:24saying. Like look at find that average.
18:26>> 20 20% is [ __ ] crazy.
18:28>> Yeah.
18:29>> I wonder how much it is to go to some of
18:31the games. So those are probably going
18:32to be lit.
18:33>> Um
18:34>> I'm definitely going to go. I don't even
18:35know [ __ ] I don't know [ __ ] about
18:36soccer, but I know they turn up.
18:38>> Yeah, they're Bro, soccer fans are die
18:41hard.
18:42>> They're die hard.
18:44>> Yeah. I might pull up to some of that
18:45[ __ ] too. It's in June, right? The
18:47first I think the first round is in
18:48June. Like middle of June or something.
18:52I think
18:57>> So, you're still you're still in in PR
18:59now, right? How much you go back and
19:00forth or like you have to do 50% or
19:02whatever it is?
19:03>> Yeah, you got to do 183 days out here.
19:07And honestly, man, I I need to talk my
19:10[ __ ] Everybody, everybody on Twitter, I
19:12love seeing people on Twitter say, "Oh,
19:14yeah. I could move to Puerto Rico, but I
19:16don't want to live in a hut." Bro,
19:19Puerto Rico living is so great. Like, it
19:22is.
19:22>> You're never going to convince me.
19:24>> It's so good. Have you, bro? Come to
19:27Dorado Beach. Come to Dorado Beach.
19:29Rich. I'm sure I could enjoy. I could
19:32enjoy. We honestly should.
19:33>> We should We should pull up. I'm down to
19:35come visit.
19:36>> Puerto Ricans are sexy as [ __ ] too.
19:38Puerto Rican girls are sexy as [ __ ]
19:40That's true.
19:40>> Um, I'm sure I could enjoy it with you.
19:42You obviously have a whole [ __ ] home
19:43base. You're talking about buying
19:44[ __ ] ferris wheels and [ __ ] You're
19:46like buying up real estate and business
19:48in Puerto Rico.
19:49>> Okay. So, so for for for context, they
19:52just extended the tax act to 2055.
19:54Originally, it was going to end in 2035.
19:57So, first of all, you have to understand
19:59that my income I'm making double what
20:02everybody else if they're making the
20:04same amount as me, I'm making double the
20:05amount as them. And then not only that,
20:08I'm able to make double from my
20:09investments because it's 4% federal
20:12income tax. So I'm still still paying a
20:14tiny bit, but then 0% capital gains. So
20:18how do you expect anybody that's making
20:20the same amount of money in the states
20:21to be able to operate at the same level?
20:24It's just not possible. Um, and I also
20:28look at all of these billionaires that
20:30are living here. If they if they can
20:33justify living here, I sure as hell can
20:35justify living here. And I also
20:37>> I think it makes perfect sense for you.
20:38I think it makes perfect sense for you.
20:40And honestly, I'm really [ __ ] sold on
20:42it in regards of like you and your life
20:44just just based on kind of kind of
20:47learning and discovering that that's
20:48really what pushed you into content as
20:50heavy as you're in it. Like being bored
20:52is a good thing sometimes. I mean, right
20:53now like I I'm I'm super I've isolated
20:55myself the last the last year. Not in
20:57like a depressing dark way, but I've
20:59I've decided to spend a lot more time on
21:00my own with myself and it's been great.
21:03It's been very productive. I live alone
21:05now. Um, and yeah, I mean being bored
21:08and having nothing to do and being in
21:09your in your head in when in a good
21:12Yeah, being in grind mode is a good
21:14thing.
21:14>> Wait, so when's your number on when you
21:16would leave though? Like there has to be
21:17some number where you're like, "Okay, I
21:19don't need to be in Puerto Rico anymore
21:21>> cuz like if you like are you going to
21:23you plan on settling down there like
21:25forever or like you want to,
21:26>> bro? There's one of the best private
21:28schools in the country in my freaking
21:29neighborhood."
21:30>> For real.
21:31>> Like Yes, bro. So if I have kids, I know
21:33exactly where I'm sending them. Oh,
21:34you're you're really serious about the
21:36Puerto Rico [ __ ] For real,
21:37>> brother. When I say he bought a ferris
21:39wheel, he's like buying business in real
21:41estate in Puerto Rico actively.
21:43>> That's why.
21:44>> Yeah. Like I mean, obviously I think the
21:49only thing that I have with Puerto Rico
21:52is is the days. Like I love having this
21:56being my primary residence, but I would
21:58just like to travel a little bit more.
22:00like if I could only spend like four
22:02months here, that would be best for me.
22:05Um, so honestly, I think, bro, I love
22:09life out here. So, I honestly never
22:12really imagine myself leaving this as my
22:15primary residence. But if I say
22:18whatever, I want to have a house in like
22:21Orange County, which I love Orange
22:23County. Um, then, you know, maybe once I
22:27hit a certain number or
22:29>> what I personally, I don't really know
22:31what that what that number is. Um, but
22:35it would have to be a lot to be honest.
22:37>> There's a huge factor we're not talking
22:38about or considering right now either.
22:40And that's just like who you wind up
22:41having kids with, who your wife ends up
22:43being, who your partner ends up being.
22:44Obviously, her opinion and how she feels
22:46like
22:46>> is going to heavily dictate what you do
22:49next. And that completely changes
22:50things. You know what I mean?
22:51>> No, for sure.
22:53>> It's interesting.
22:54>> Um,
22:55>> but you you can't tell me that like
22:57Okay, so you live in LA and then Anom,
23:01where do you where do you live? New
23:02York.
23:02>> In New York. Yeah.
23:04>> Oh, so you guys are getting
23:06>> we're getting wrecked. We also live in
23:08the two best cities on earth, brother.
23:10>> That I can go and visit for half the
23:13year and I can still get tax advantages,
23:17bro. Like,
23:18>> you know,
23:20>> so like you're not telling me, okay, I'm
23:23I'm here I'm here to pitch you guys.
23:25Like, you're not telling me that you
23:26don't spend at least half of your year
23:30in an office or working
23:34>> this last year maybe. But but my the
23:36whole my whole life, no. And I don't
23:38know, man. Like it's whenever I think
23:40about this. I like waking up and I like
23:43walking through Beverly Hills and I like
23:45[ __ ] my little routine and I love the
23:46weather and I love the people. I have a
23:48whole life here, you know? I have a
23:50company, employees here. I have [ __ ]
23:52I built an entire life for myself, which
23:54is why I worked so hard was to build
23:56this foundation and this life for that's
23:57like the loop that I get stuck in. I'm
23:59like,
23:59>> see that somebody like you, that's
24:01that's the that's the most difficult
24:02thing for people. I left a place that I
24:05had no attachment at all. You know, I
24:08was leaving like Salt Lake City,
24:10freaking Utah that I was just like, bet.
24:12Like, do
24:13>> I will say this, the first original FaZe
24:14house, we all moved into a house in Long
24:16Island because it was close to the
24:17sponsor that was paying for it. This
24:18before any of us made any sort of bread.
24:21Um, and we lived in a house in uh Plain
24:23View, Long Island, and we never left the
24:26crib. We sat in the house all day and
24:27played Call of Duty and CS:GO and made
24:29[ __ ] YouTube videos, and we could
24:30have did that anywhere. And um it was
24:32one of the most lively, engaging, one of
24:35one of my most it's it's a chapter of my
24:38life that I cherish. And I think part of
24:40it was I I wasn't leaving anything
24:41behind. I was like trying actively to
24:43switch it up and I was with who I needed
24:46to be. I I don't know.
24:49>> Yeah. I I love New York, bro. I'm not
24:50going anywhere. I'm not.
24:52>> Yeah. New New York New York's great for
24:55sure. New York New York is one of those
24:56cities where you just like everywhere
24:58you go, if you travel, like if you stay
25:01there for a certain amount of time and
25:02you come back to New York, always like,
25:03"Yeah, there's no city like New York."
25:05No matter where I go, literally. Um, so
25:07yeah, I'm
25:08>> I I agree with that. New York New York
25:10is is amazing. Every time I go there,
25:12I'm like, "Damn, this is this is the
25:14city for sure."
25:15>> Okay, so so breakdown. I I didn't catch
25:18the beginning of this because I was um
25:21busy. What were you guys talking like
25:23stocks and crypto-wise? Yeah, we're
25:25talking about stocks, talking about
25:26crypto. Um, we were talking about Zcash
25:28and Hype. We think those are like the
25:30two best crypto trades right now.
25:32>> Great.
25:33>> I'm just crushing it, bro. The
25:34>> Hyperliquid's an amazing
25:35>> My only um only caveat with Hype, like
25:38their their past quarter, their revenue
25:40is pretty much flat. Like it's one of
25:42the only quarters that they haven't
25:43grown substantially in revenue since
25:44their launch. But they've done an
25:46amazing job with um implementing stocks
25:49trading. So like before obviously they'd
25:51per all of crypto. Now they have per for
25:53stocks, commodities, crypto, all these
25:55things. And I think stocks right now are
25:56close to like 30 or 40% of the top 10
25:59like volume right now on what's what's
26:01trading on the platform.
26:02>> So I'm surprised TJ trade on Hyperlid
26:04ever.
26:04>> I was No, I was just about to say I'm
26:06actually thinking of transitioning to
26:09trading.
26:11>> You absolutely should.
26:12>> Okay. So the only the only problem is
26:14when I tested it
26:17>> trading pers is at least when you're
26:20calculating risk or maybe because I was
26:22doing it on my phone maybe it's better
26:24on desktop but when you're calculating
26:26risk you have to adjust leverage every
26:28single time because for me I'm not
26:29placing um trades based off of just like
26:33a certain like obviously I have a set
26:34dollar amount that I'm willing to risk
26:36per trade but I'm doing it based off of
26:37price action and for me I'm entering
26:40like when I'm trading on futures I need
26:42to be able to enter within seconds.
26:45>> Um, so being able to whatever drag the
26:48little leverage button and then find the
26:50exact amount of leverage and then put it
26:52into like a risk management calculator
26:54to be able to find exactly where that's
26:56supposed to be at to place my stop and
26:58whatever. Um, at least when I tested it
27:01on my phone, it was maybe I didn't give
27:04it enough of a shot, but it took too
27:07much time versus on Trading View, you
27:09know, that shit's automatically
27:10integrated. You literally just press a
27:12button and then boom, like it's done.
27:13They already have like the risk
27:15management tool open on the right hand
27:16side when you're even thinking of
27:18placing the trade when you're trading
27:19futures.
27:20>> Yeah, I mean for for bullpen we
27:23implemented implemented hyperl on the
27:25back end. Um if you wanted to ever just
27:27test out our platform and see like if it
27:29is direct onetoone with how you trade on
27:32whatever you do interactive brokers or
27:34>> no no I do uh trade station trade
27:38station. Yeah. A lot of the the same
27:40things you can do there you can do on
27:41bullpen. We have pers for stocks. Perks
27:43for the index, but you said you trade
27:44mostly the the indices, right?
27:46>> Yeah. Yes. And NASDAQ.
27:48>> Yeah. So, we have everything um here.
27:50We're actually doing a competition next
27:52week. Um you definitely should sign up
27:55and join if if you're interested in
27:56testing out Hyperlid, but it's 25K to
27:58enter and then the winner gets 100K. So
28:01we can trade whatever you want that's
28:03available on like the hyperlquid
28:05platform which we all have enabled
28:07crypto indices stocks anything. Um but
28:09yeah we're doing that next
28:11>> I need to test it out on my desktop cuz
28:13when I was doing it on my phone I like
28:15just gave up immediately. I was like,
28:16"Bro, dragging this leverage thing is
28:18going to drive me freaking nuts." And
28:20having to calculate the the risk on the
28:23side or like go to a completely
28:24different browser to calculate risk to
28:26figure out what x leverage I'm supposed
28:28to put on this is it's just not going to
28:31work with my style.
28:32>> Yeah. No. Yeah. You should I can get you
28:35all all set up. But um it's you might
28:37have also tried it out like a lot
28:39earlier in their in their days. They've
28:40been made like a lot of improvements to
28:42the platform and desktop is definitely
28:43better than than mobile. But we have
28:45both. Um. Yeah.
28:48>> So, what's what's what's hot stock stock
28:50stock narratives? Obviously, obviously
28:53AI, but um
28:55>> what are what are you what are you
28:57looking at right now?
28:58>> Yeah, I'm looking at um we talked about
29:00Intel earlier. I think Intel is really
29:02good. It's up a good amount. I think
29:03it's going to pull back and consolidate,
29:05but I think the this year, next year,
29:08they're going to be one of the core um
29:10stocks that's going to do well the same
29:11way that Nvidia did well from 2022 to
29:14now. So I like Intel a lot. Um we also
29:16talked about Souls which is like a lower
29:18key one. This company called Solstice
29:20Advanced Materials. So they're one of
29:22the key um parts of the process of
29:25converting uranium ore to um what you
29:29need for nuclear power and like as you
29:32know
29:32>> Earth those ones are going crazy.
29:34>> Yeah. Yeah. So they're they're um one of
29:37the companies involved with that
29:38solstice. Um, like the US is investing a
29:41lot into energy, a lot into the grid,
29:43and we think that's going to be one of
29:44the areas that catches this AI tailwind
29:46of momentum that hasn't really moved all
29:48that much yet. Um, what else have we
29:50talked about? We talked about MP. That's
29:52another like rare earth metals company.
29:55Um,
29:55>> Trump is looking to close off all those
29:58ch uh all the connections to China rare
30:02earth stuff uh January 1st, 2027. So, I
30:05mean, who knows if that's that's, you
30:08know, like a buy the rumor, sell the
30:10news sort of situation. I think that
30:12it'll probably like price itself in
30:14before January 1st of 2027. Um, but
30:18that's that I have the same thesis.
30:19That's like where my head's at with all
30:20the rare earth stuff.
30:21>> It's not even a rumor for this
30:23specifically because you know how Trump
30:25bought 10% of Intel.
30:26>> Yeah. Yeah.
30:27>> They also bought I think it's 5% of this
30:30company MP. So, they already have like
30:31invested in the company and when they
30:33first invested in it, I think it was
30:35like
30:36>> a little late in 2025 and it it moved up
30:38a lot. Now, it's like consolidated. I
30:40think it's going to start moving.
30:41>> MP's chart.
30:42>> MP. Yeah. Pull it up.
30:43>> It's a good It's a good chart.
30:44>> I didn't know that. I didn't know that.
30:45What else are they [ __ ] buying again?
30:47Before today, I didn't know the US could
30:49go buy companies like
30:50>> Yeah, the [ __ ] is that?
30:52>> Crazy.
30:53>> That changes everything.
30:54>> Yeah, I'll pull I'll pull up the chart.
30:56It's um Yes, this is the MP chart. Um,
31:00so I think here was like the original
31:02announcement in like late mid 2025. It
31:05went from 15 or like 18 to close to 100,
31:10tapped 100, and now it's just been
31:12sitting consolidating over it prior
31:13alltime highs. I think it's a good spot.
31:15Um, I agree on the rare earths. Um, the
31:18US wants to be not relying on China as
31:19much as we're reliant now because we're
31:21like so heavily relying on them and
31:23obviously it's not a great thing. Um, so
31:24I think the companies that are um
31:27building and working in this area are
31:28going to do well. But yeah,
31:30>> what's the market cap? 10B's.
31:31>> It's it's low, bro. Yeah, it's 10bs.
31:34>> How about um how about space? Because
31:36obviously SpaceX is going to IPO?
31:39Obviously, Rocket Lab's been going crazy
31:41and uh Fly Aerospace. Um, you think
31:44those keep keep going until uh SpaceX
31:48IPOs and then we get a big push from
31:51whatever pretty much all space stocks
31:53once we see the market cap that SpaceX
31:56IPOs at.
31:57>> Yeah, actually actually hit Rocket Lab
31:59really well. I I bought it at like 67
32:02and sold at like 60 something. Um,
32:06>> dude, we're [ __ ] ridiculous.
32:09Ridiculous.
32:10Yeah. But no, I think Rocket Lab is
32:12going to do well. I I wish I would have
32:13re-entered though. Like I That was one
32:15where I was like, "This [ __ ] 10x. It's
32:16obviously topped for now." Like, I'm
32:18going to just exit. It topped and then
32:19it just kept [ __ ] ripping and it went
32:21to like 120 or something now. I'm not in
32:24it right now, but I I agree it's a good
32:26spot. I think SpaceX the valuation is so
32:29ridiculous. I think they're trying to
32:31IPO like 1.8 trillion or some something
32:34crazy like that. Um, and a lot of the
32:36other space, I think Firefly is one.
32:38ASTS is one, Rocket Lab is one. Um, I
32:42agree with you, they are catching those
32:43those tail ones, but Rocket Lab is it's
32:45like far and away the the best um one. I
32:48think like they're the second biggest
32:49for sure.
32:51>> How do you how do you think SpaceX is
32:52going to trade once once it comes out? I
32:54think it's going to be like a uh the the
32:57Pudgy Penguins situation where that [ __ ]
33:00gets like a spike, comes down, and then
33:03slowly comes right back on up.
33:05>> Yeah. I I don't I would be amazed if it
33:08launches around two two trillion and
33:10doesn't go down, and then consolidate.
33:12Like, if it just goes straight to F. I
33:13would be I'll be [ __ ] amazed if it
33:15just goes straight to five. Um
33:17especially because with space and a lot
33:19of what SpaceX is trying to do, it's not
33:22like an immediate thing. like they're
33:23not going to have immediate impact as
33:25soon as they IPO. I don't think so. I I
33:27think it's going to be like a slower a
33:29slower play. I think if SpaceX IPOs,
33:31anthropic IPOs, Open AI IPOs, that's got
33:35to put in some kind of local top for
33:36Marcus. It has to.
33:38>> It's just too much money.
33:39>> So, you got to short the IPO.
33:42>> I don't know if I'll I don't know if
33:43I'll short.
33:44>> Yeah, I wouldn't
33:46>> I don't know.
33:46>> I wouldn't short that.
33:48>> Yeah, it's tricky. That
33:49>> I would just I would just say sit on
33:51your hands and wait. and see if it gives
33:53you like if and see if it goes lower.
33:56>> Yeah. The thing with Elon companies is
33:58like they they trade off attention a lot
34:01like they trade off momentum a lot. Like
34:03Tesla, that company did well a lot of
34:07like for a lot of the reason before they
34:09were actually like selling a lot of cars
34:10and doing well like revenue-wise. They
34:12did well because of the narrative around
34:13EVs and the narrative around the company
34:15and Elon doing such a good job of
34:17selling them and shilling that. Like so
34:19his companies are are tricky because
34:21he's such a good marketer of all the
34:23stuff that he he works in and he has a
34:25really good story and thesis for
34:26combining them all together. Like the
34:28buy of of Twitter converting that to X
34:30is huge I think huge for um his
34:34positioning. He's super smart in that
34:35way before a lot of other people um can
34:37be.
34:39>> Do you hold any crypto currently TGR?
34:42>> Um all just stables right now. Um, and
34:46you know what? I like
34:49I got out of all my Bitcoin. I took a
34:51loss. Um, I was buying a bunch as it
34:55came down to like a 100,000 and as it
34:58got into 90.
34:59>> You were [ __ ] slamming it, too,
35:01right?
35:01>> Yeah.
35:02>> Talking about the figures.
35:04>> Um, I mean, bro, I put in close to like
35:091.5 mil. Um,
35:14>> bro, like yeah, a lot. Um, but like,
35:20yes, I mean, obviously that's that's
35:23going to hurt, you know? I'm going to
35:25lose six figures on it, but I would
35:27rather take I would rather take that
35:29loss and allocate that money elsewhere.
35:33>> Um, I just
35:35>> I remember where I'm at, man. It's not
35:38the same, bro. It's just
35:39>> I thought it was a good spot. like the
35:40where you were buying Bitcoin at. If
35:42this was like how crypto traded in 2017,
35:45you would have been up like 50% in like
35:47a few months.
35:47>> I was ready to [ __ ] on everybody.
35:49Everyone was talking [ __ ] and I was
35:50like, "Oh my gosh, I can't wait for this
35:52[ __ ] to go." And then it just didn't.
35:53And now I'm like, "Okay, I can't say
35:55anything."
35:56>> What was the main contributing factor to
35:58you making that move to you to you?
36:01>> Um,
36:03>> slamming 1.5 M into in Bitcoin. Why?
36:06>> Well, it was you had to sum it up to one
36:08thing. It was dollar cost or it wasn't
36:10really like dollar cost average but it
36:11was as it kept going down I just kept
36:13putting more and more in.
36:14>> I saw I remember the tweets and I
36:15remember you posting like live posting
36:18>> um
36:20to be honest I just I I saw those prices
36:23and I I thought that we were due for
36:26another leg up. Um I also thought that
36:30you know even if I were to get in here I
36:32can survive the draw down. And then
36:35really right around that time was when
36:38crypto just kind of fell off a cliff and
36:40like stocks just took over. And that's
36:44when I was like, "Ah, man. I uh top
36:47ticked top ticked longs here."
36:50>> I've top ticked a lot of things, bro.
36:51It's It's fun. I top ticked a lot of
36:53[ __ ] So, you still you still kind of
36:54feeling the same way? Sit on your hands,
36:56crypto. Ignore it. Focus on what you
36:58>> Yeah, I' I've got a bunch of money in in
37:00stables right now. And I mean I funny
37:03enough I've just been buying um like
37:07stupid [ __ ] like just watches. Um and
37:09I'm actually up a lot on the watches
37:11that I've bought. I'm up o over six
37:14figures. So I I've actually made back
37:15the money that I lost or made back the
37:18majority of the money that I lost um
37:20from the Bitcoin from just buying
37:23watches with
37:24>> my uh watches stable.
37:27>> Uh like Richard Mills. Uh, so yeah, I
37:30got two 6702s. Those have been going up
37:33a lot.
37:34>> 6701, baby.
37:36>> There you go. We're matching.
37:38>> They're the best.
37:38>> Um, and then I got this uh white ceramic
37:42AP that has gone up uh around like 50 to
37:48$70,000. The 6702s are the ones that
37:50have gone up a significant amount. Um,
37:53>> I think it's RM's best watch. I
37:55personally like the 6701 better because
37:57it just suits more of my [ __ ] But you
38:00>> 702 is like the [ __ ] kind of the holy
38:02grail for someone like you, I would say.
38:05>> Um Z, do you buy watches? Do you wear
38:07watches?
38:08>> Bro, I don't buy watches. I don't buy
38:09jewelry. I don't do none of that [ __ ] I
38:10don't have any tattoos. None of it.
38:13>> Tattoo.
38:14>> What are you trying to say, bro?
38:17>> Bro, [ __ ] have a lot of tattoos.
38:19>> I'll say I'll say jewelry. It goes
38:20together.
38:21>> I'll say jewelry. I'll say I'll I'll
38:22I'll agree. I'll concede. tattoos
38:24[ __ ] for sure.
38:26>> I mean, I don't think I think they're
38:27[ __ ] I just don't [ __ ] with them. I
38:28just
38:29>> two most jewelry [ __ ] Well, there's
38:30no like It just doesn't It's a sickness.
38:32I'm sick. TJR is sick. We're degenerate.
38:35We're [ __ ] we're scum slime to our
38:38[ __ ] core, right? Um, but watches
38:41though, there's something to watches,
38:42bro. There's something to like like like
38:44to be said in terms of trading watches.
38:46It's honestly fun. Like it's like a I
38:48know you weren't really into NFTTS
38:49either, so I I guess that part of your
38:51brain is just like turned off.
38:53>> I mean, bro, I would rather I would
38:56rather have
38:57>> I could just see like a nice aquinaut.
39:00Like you you just scream like
39:03>> aquat quiet luxury like like a PC.
39:06>> Get an FPJ, bro.
39:08>> I've heard of I've heard of that brand.
39:10That's like the more uh
39:12>> buy a watch, bro. Buy one watch. buying
39:15nice. You know, you know who would love
39:16to, you know who would love to go
39:18shopping for a watch for you? Your girl.
39:20And she knows your [ __ ]
39:20>> sweat. She tries to get me to. I just
39:22got her I got her some [ __ ] But I She
39:24tries to get me to uh You know what my
39:26take You know what my take on jewelry
39:27is?
39:29>> I think jewelry is for women. That's my
39:30take.
39:31>> All right, bro. It's okay. Nah, me and
39:34Banks are on the more feminine side.
39:35It's cool, bro. It's okay.
39:38>> Yeah, dude. That's
39:39>> But watch it. No, no. See, see, I
39:41actually agree. I tend to agree. I don't
39:43wear any jewelry either. I used to wear
39:46piercings in my ears. I've kind of
39:47abandoned all that. I'll say when I see
39:50a girl like I I'll I'll meet girls in LA
39:52and the archetype is like rich family or
39:56a hooker. Like a right hooker carrying
39:59the Birkin done up pretty [ __ ] with
40:02like a with if she's wearing a watch
40:04it's like 16 Cardier bracelets, 16 Van
40:07Clee bracelets. And if a girl has a
40:10watch on, that's where you that's where
40:11I draw the line. I don't think women
40:13look good in watches. I think watches
40:15are masculine. Yeah, watches are watches
40:17are a guy thing, bro.
40:18>> That make that's fair.
40:19>> Even just look at how they're designed.
40:20Like like like how many Rolexes would
40:22look good on a on a woman versus a man,
40:24you know? It's like time pieces and cars
40:27I feel like are are guy things.
40:30>> Yeah.
40:30>> Yeah. And they also only attract dudes.
40:32Like no girl,
40:35>> oh my god.
40:37>> And if she does, head for the [ __ ]
40:39hills cuz that [ __ ] is a [ __ ]
40:41hookie. Exactly. If she knows what a
40:43Richard Mill is, you got to run, bro.
40:45>> Facts. Facts.
40:46>> Yeah. It seems like I mean I do
40:47understand watches. Watches make sense
40:49because it's kind of like a status
40:51symbol for people. Like there's no
40:53there's like really easy way if you're
40:54in a room with like some important
40:55people, important businessman, you have
40:57a nice watch on. It's like, oh, what's
40:58your like I understand those
40:59conversations. That makes sense to me.
41:01It seems
41:01>> it's a cool way to display taste as
41:03well. you know, like it's like it's
41:04there aren't many things that you can
41:06like invest in or
41:07>> you know, like articulate status and
41:11like it goes one layer deeper. It's
41:12like, oh, this [ __ ] guy knows like,
41:14you know, you know,
41:14>> like for for me, the way I think about
41:16it, would I rather have $300,000 that
41:19I'm not using sitting in my bank account
41:21or just put it on my wrist? I would
41:23rather just put it on my wrist because
41:25at least I can wear it um and at least
41:27it looks cool to me. And then I'm
41:29completely going to sell these things
41:31once I'm ready to get get into the
41:33market. But at least right now, at least
41:36on the crypto side of things, I don't
41:38see nothing that speaking to attention
41:40and watches, I don't see nothing.
41:43>> Speaking to attention watches, did you
41:45see the AP thing? The AP swatch thing?
41:46It was [ __ ] everywhere. You obviously
41:47saw it.
41:48>> Yes. Yeah.
41:48>> Yeah. Absolutely everywhere.
41:51>> Did it happen?
41:52>> It went super viral. No, but I think
41:53they um I think they dropped the uh
41:56We're not
41:57>> Yeah, it's like it's a pocket watch.
41:59It's It dangles from like a keychain. It
42:00looks like a air tag. It's It's like an
42:03air tag. Um
42:04>> we'll watch this.
42:06This is it, right?
42:08>> Yeah, I think
42:14>> that one's hard, bro. That [ __ ] is not
42:17hard, bro. H I That's the type of [ __ ]
42:21that you're going to see like these
42:23ancient
42:24>> this [ __ ] is ugly. That this [ __ ] is
42:26This Arizona iced tea ass watch is
42:28[ __ ] hideous.
42:29>> This is Bro, you're about to see high
42:30schoolers rock rocking these shits, bro.
42:32>> That shit's going to be hanging from a
42:33keychain. I'm going TO BUY LIKE 10 OF
42:35THEM by way. That's why it's genius. I
42:38saw people [ __ ] all over this. I saw
42:40[ __ ] people and I think it's a really
42:41[ __ ] take to be like, I'm selling my
42:43AP because now the barrier to entry yada
42:45yada. We've seen this and most of the
42:48time when it's done the right way. I
42:49don't know if this is done the right or
42:50the wrong way. I think them not making a
42:52wristwatch is the move. Um that keeps
42:54like that in its own separate class, but
42:56like we saw Off-White and Nike do a
42:59collab to great success. We saw Louis
43:01Vuitton and Supreme do a collab to great
43:03success. These are brands that are on
43:05significantly different levels. um you
43:08know and they they traded they they they
43:09they they delivered a product for
43:12somebody that was outside of their you
43:13know typical like ecosystem and and
43:15outside of their typical customer to
43:17great success. Like these are some of
43:18the more um success like Porsche did a
43:21Lego collab before and like the
43:23psychology of that it makes sense. It's
43:24like and I'm sure the Porsche Lego
43:26collab trades very well past you know
43:29what whatever it was released for retail
43:30but like you put a [ __ ] Porsche Lego
43:33in front of like a 12-year-old kid and
43:35he loves it and he's obsessed with it.
43:36the rest of his life he wants the real
43:37thing.
43:38>> That's true.
43:38>> You know, I can see that.
43:39>> I feel like I feel like that's kind of
43:41along the lines. I don't think it's a
43:42bad thing. I think if like now there's a
43:44[ __ ] real like like it's a realistic
43:46goal for some kid in high school to go
43:48buy a [ __ ] $1,500 AP and throw that
43:51[ __ ] on his backpack and it doesn't mean
43:53[ __ ] to us because we're millionaires,
43:54right? And we're [ __ ] adults. But
43:56like for him it's like holy [ __ ] And
43:58now in his mind he's like I got to work
44:00my ass off for the next 10 years so I
44:01can go buy the real thing. I don't know.
44:04>> Yeah. Yeah,
44:04>> I think it's genius level marketing.
44:06Also, the entire episode the the entire
44:09episode's been about attention. That was
44:10one of the biggest things that happened
44:11on the timeline this whole [ __ ] year,
44:14which I can't believe that. Like,
44:16>> that's crazy.
44:17>> Yeah.
44:18>> Um my my question I have a question for
44:21you guys and um so obviously you guys
44:24have have this show which is great. Um,
44:27I think streaming is the best form of
44:29content because you can break it down
44:31into a long form YouTube video and then
44:33also into short form clips. How are you
44:35guys prioritizing like the marketing and
44:37trying to just mass push this out to as
44:40many people as possible?
44:42>> We're starting to have more
44:43conversations about that. Obviously, I
44:44know more than the average bear about
44:46like clipping and distributing content.
44:48That's like my my whole [ __ ] lane.
44:49That's I feel like where I'm actually
44:51pulling my weight in the show and kind
44:52of building up this IP. To tell you the
44:54truth, the first several episodes,
44:56obviously we're only on episode three.
44:58So, like I'm kind of rolling off the
45:00couch in the regards of like being on
45:01content actively. I feel like I'm a
45:03natural for it. Um, and again, I'm like
45:05I'm walking the walk. Like we preach
45:07make money, command attention, AI
45:08literacy. And like I haven't taken a a
45:11serious swing at making any sort of
45:13meaningful content or creating any sort
45:15of content IP or consistently doing
45:17anything in content for myself as banks
45:20in [ __ ] like seven years. And I'm
45:22doing it now, you know? And I'm doing
45:23it, you know, at a lower point in like
45:26my career in terms of general narrative
45:27and sentiment. And I'm doing it for like
45:29a niche, a very small niche audience,
45:31right? Like this show is definitely not
45:32for everybody. And the barrier to entry
45:34and the filter is going to be for every
45:36[ __ ] thousand people that click on
45:38this stream or or or tune into this
45:40show, I expect, you know, 10 to stick
45:42around maybe. Um, so just establishing
45:45that, like building rapport with Z. Z's
45:47never done content like this in his
45:48life, right? He's done a couple of
45:49streams, but like this type of format,
45:52I've been pilling this [ __ ] on
45:53doing content since I met him. I've been
45:56singing I've been singing from the
45:57rooftop like, "Yo, more of you guys need
45:59to make [ __ ] videos and thread guy,
46:01why the [ __ ] are you in Twitter spaces,
46:03bro? Get your ass on Twitch." And now
46:04he's on Twitch, right? Years later. And
46:06I was, you know, like it was looked at
46:08and perceived and I feel like I was
46:10misunderstood in a lot of areas. Like
46:11when when I did the Haley Welch podcast,
46:13really all I'm thinking is like somebody
46:16needs to [ __ ] you know, do do this.
46:18Like somebody needs to make make the
46:20content. Like I always have these
46:21visions of like passing it off to Thread
46:23or so and so or whatever. And that's why
46:25that was one of our earlier
46:26conversations. TJR, you were in our
46:27crib. I came out to the living room, you
46:29were there, and we sat and talked about
46:31this subject for forever. I think like I
46:35don't know. I just think there's a huge
46:36demand again for like playing the game
46:39in, you know, this meta like like 2026,
46:42what content looks like, what the
46:43overwhelming demand. You talked about
46:45it, you spoke about it right when you
46:46came on the show, like packaging it and
46:48presenting it in a palpable way to the
46:50average [ __ ] viewer and and like
46:52giving your I don't know. That's
46:54>> Yeah, I think I think I I would like to
46:57say I think you had like a slight
46:58limiting belief there where you said,
47:00you know, maybe this stream isn't for
47:02everybody. I think that this stream can
47:03be for everybody. Um,
47:05>> that's the goal. That's the goal is to
47:07appeal appeal to as many people as
47:08possible. Me to play the, you know, the
47:10layman. And I can like I can hang in
47:12conversations about markets and trading
47:14and things like that, but Z will go on a
47:16[ __ ] fiveminute monologue on some
47:18[ __ ] big brain 200 IQ [ __ ] and I'll
47:20have to pause and be like, wait, what's
47:22inference? You know, and I feel like
47:23that's valuable to the average user,
47:26whereas like Z's typically Z's used to
47:28talking to [ __ ] people who know all
47:30this [ __ ] words on a screen, Twitter,
47:32you know what I mean? It's a it's a much
47:34different,
47:34>> you know, it's a to rather than [ __ ]
47:37>> Yeah.
47:39>> Yeah. My my driver I've like I've always
47:41been a solo operator to be honest. Like
47:43my entire life, high school, college, I
47:45was like the kid who was a nerd. Um I
47:48played sports growing up. I was like
47:49good at sports, but I wasn't really that
47:51active on like the social side until
47:53college and after college. Um so I was
47:56never trying
47:56>> of nature 66. I I hope you
47:59>> Yeah. You know what's funny, bro? I was
48:01I was like 6 I was 62 160 senior year of
48:05high school and then I [ __ ] 6 feet
48:07>> shot up in in college, bro.
48:09>> Same. I was a late bloomer, too. That's
48:10crazy.
48:11>> Wow. So, we're all just enormous in this
48:14>> We're at least 667.
48:16>> You said it on me. You said it on me.
48:18Wait, how tall are you? We're the same
48:19height.
48:20>> Yeah. Yeah. Same height. Like 65.
48:22>> 6'5. Yeah. And Z's 66. Have you guys
48:24never met?
48:24>> I don't.
48:25>> No, not in person. Not in person.
48:26>> Well, you guys got a link. That's crazy.
48:28>> Yeah, we do got a link. But yeah, my uh
48:30my thoughts around content is like I
48:32never really planned for my account to
48:34blow up. I was just sharing the
48:35information as I was researching, as I
48:36was trading. I got a lot of followers
48:38because people were tailing a lot of the
48:40trades I was talking about like, "Yo,
48:41this dude knows what he's talking
48:42about." So, I got amplified in that way.
48:43And now once I have the platform, I'm
48:46like, "Okay, it makes sense to at least
48:48do something with it." I've always been
48:49super lazy on content to be honest.
48:51Like, I tweet. It's easy to just shoot
48:53out tweets as I as it comes to me. Easy
48:54just put out information or trades that
48:56I'm taking. Um, but it takes a lot more
48:58effort to do streaming, to like prepare
49:00for shows, to like write long form
49:02stuff. So, what I want to do like with
49:05the platform that I have is teach people
49:07one, how to be better traders, how to
49:09learn how to trade, and then two, like
49:11how to prepare themselves for what's
49:14coming in the future. Cuz I was lucky in
49:16that I caught crypto early in 2017. Um,
49:19I learned about in 2016 and started
49:21buying in 2017. I feel like AI is in a
49:23very similar spot to crypto in 2017
49:26right now. Like, yeah, it just popped
49:28off in 2022, but the way that it's
49:31accelerating and how fast all the models
49:33and how much the models are getting
49:34faster and better and easier for people
49:37to use and actually like implement at
49:39their companies and in their
49:40professional lives, you want to be
49:41prepared for that. Um, and so like my
49:43whole thing with this show is like those
49:45those two areas to be like help people
49:47in that So, so right now high high
49:50school kid that just got out of high
49:51school and he says, "Man, [ __ ] college.
49:53I don't want to do this with my life and
49:55I just I just heard this from you." What
49:57is some something that that person can
49:59be doing actively right now to actually
50:02take advantage of this new wave of AI
50:04like how you did with crypto?
50:07>> Yeah, I would say that the first thing
50:08is to just get familiar with using AI
50:11every day. Um, I think that there are a
50:15ton of opportunities that are going to
50:17pop up for
50:20like businesses who haven't optimized
50:22their workflows. I think they're going
50:24to be able to use AI to make them a lot
50:26more efficient. But the thing is, a lot
50:28of these businesses are going to be uh
50:30run by like older people who aren't at
50:32the forefront of this technology. So, if
50:33you're a younger kid um who is getting
50:35used to using AI, um you're going to be
50:38you're essentially like the first people
50:40who were using the internet. Um so you
50:42want to think about it in that way. I
50:44think also with trading it's like even
50:45if you don't have a job that's directly
50:48benefiting from AI knowing um how to in
50:51learning how to invest your capital and
50:52learning how to invest your money. I
50:54think in the future trading is going to
50:55be one of the most popular professions
50:57actually like I think everybody is going
51:00to be some kind of a trader because AI
51:02is going to change what the workforce
51:04looks like so substantially. Um, and a
51:06lot of the ways for people to leaprog
51:09like wealth tiers is going to be
51:10investing in like the companies that do
51:12really well. Um,
51:13>> but Chris Camil was talking about
51:14democratizing trading, right?
51:16>> It's it's it's definitely going to be a
51:18thing. Um, yeah. I I don't know exactly
51:20what areas I would say to focus on
51:22business-wise. Um, I know you're on [ __ ]
51:25You're on [ __ ] right?
51:26>> Yeah. I I think [ __ ] is like honestly one
51:29of the like companies that's going to do
51:32really well over the next few years
51:33because what [ __ ] does um [ __ ] enables
51:36entrepreneurs to sell what their
51:37expertise is directly on their platform
51:39no matter what it is. So if you're
51:40expert in trading, if you're expert in
51:42cooking, if you're an expert in
51:43gardening, if you're an expert in
51:44whatever it is, they allow you to
51:46package your content and sell it to
51:48people um and engage with your community
51:51in that way. So I think we've talked
51:53about attention a lot. We've talked
51:54about AI a lot. Like if you have no
51:57other skills, if you are able to get
52:00good on social media garnering attention
52:02and then figure out something that you
52:04can become an expert in and use AI to
52:06help yourself become an expert in that,
52:07you can literally can combine those two
52:09things to build your own business,
52:10whatever it is.
52:11>> I agree with everything that you just
52:13said. I'll even take it a step further
52:14and just kind of kind of um tail that
52:17and say if you're truly starting at zero
52:20clean foundation and you're not good at
52:22anything or you have no skills, just
52:24focus on something you're obsessed with
52:26or just genuinely interested in because
52:28again like Z said, this is the internet
52:30happening all over again. So the odds
52:32are there is an opportunity for you to
52:33pair
52:34>> an interest that you have. First of all,
52:36you're going to just retain information
52:37about this, learn it at a quicker rate,
52:39and just naturally get better at
52:41something you're overly obsessed with,
52:42obviously, right? You pair that with AI
52:44and you're spending six hours a day
52:46understanding and learning how to use AI
52:48and how to apply that to existing, you
52:50know, business um and markets. Like,
52:52that's that's where I would be if I was
52:54graduating high school. Definitely
52:55wouldn't be going to college. I think
52:56that's the first, you know, big brain
52:58step out. I think the most dangerous
53:00piece though where a lot of like young
53:02people I think are getting stuck in like
53:04the glue trap is the attention piece
53:06because this is what's like this is
53:09what's keeping the youth connected today
53:11is Twitter and clips and that culture
53:13like internet culture and a lot of it is
53:15[ __ ] absolute garbage. Like it's
53:17absolute trash and it's designed to just
53:19keep you on it's designed to keep you
53:21away from each other. And it's it's
53:23designed to keep you on your [ __ ]
53:24phone doom scrolling and and consuming
53:26[ __ ] fast food brain rot shitty
53:29content. I think being intentional with
53:30what you're watching is really important
53:33and being mindful of that and holding
53:34yourself accountable and just being
53:36healthy, you know, mentally healthy. Um
53:38and being aware. I like the uh we've
53:41talked a little bit about like searching
53:42versus scrolling.
53:44>> Yeah.
53:44>> Be a searcher. Don't be a scroller. You
53:46know, if you find yourself kind of
53:47mindlessly scrolling [ __ ] and you're w
53:49and you get to the area of the internet
53:50where you're watching [ __ ] you know,
53:52strawberries gang banging a banana, it's
53:54like, all right, maybe close the app,
53:56take a deep breath.
53:56>> So, you saw that same video. You saw
53:59that same [ __ ] bro. Cuz I seen that
54:01one. I seen it.
54:03>> Go for a walk. But yeah, essentially
54:04what we're saying essentially what we're
54:05saying is is again what the entire show
54:07is about, and that's money, attention,
54:10and AI. Um, obviously the through line
54:12and the foundation, the most important
54:14thing above all else is just your
54:16health. I think being dialed physically
54:18healthy. We have more resources today to
54:21keep yourself dialed [ __ ] you know,
54:23peptides and GLP1s and all this [ __ ]
54:25crazy information. And, you know, it's
54:27it's easier to eat healthy and be
54:29healthy healthier than ever, keeping
54:31your mind right. Um, ultimately, invest
54:34in yourself. It's the tagline of the
54:35whole show. It's the whole [ __ ] idea.
54:37It's the whole point of the show. Invest
54:38in yourself. I think there's a lot of
54:40noise happening. I don't know. I've kind
54:42of always run my own life in in a manner
54:44where I just feel like the average
54:46person is broke, [ __ ] and unhappy.
54:52So, if you just like I know I'm
54:54oversimplifying it, but if you just do
54:55the opposite of what most people are
54:57doing, again, most people broke,
54:59[ __ ] unhappy. So, you do the
55:01opposite and you wind up rich, looking
55:05at least maybe smart and happy, you
55:09know, like I don't know. Um, it's kind
55:11of the gist. I know I'm oversimplifying
55:13it. That's [ __ ] left curve [ __ ]
55:15statement, whatever. But,
55:17>> no, I think that's true. I think a lot
55:19of people if their life sucks right now,
55:21you know, it's very like the the
55:24solution to every question is just by
55:25flipping the qu question upside down.
55:27You know, just do a complete 180. If
55:29your life sucks right now, do the
55:30opposite of what you're doing right now.
55:31And odds are you'll probably end up
55:33enjoying what you're doing a lot more
55:34and you'll probably find some success.
55:36>> Amen, brother. And again, for what it's
55:38worth, I think that while it's scary
55:41times and it's a very scary spot to be
55:44in, you know, young person, you don't
55:47really have access to anything. Your
55:48parents aren't rich. Um, it is a little
55:51bit of a scary spot, but at the same
55:52time, in the same breath, I'll say I
55:54don't think there's ever been a time in
55:55human history where it's a better time
55:57to have nothing to do or to have a clean
55:59slate or to just be starting your life.
56:01Like,
56:02>> most opportunity. For sure,
56:03>> bro. You're 18 years old. You're 17, 18
56:05years old right now. You are the
56:06luckiest person that's ever existed on
56:08Earth. And that's just the truth.
56:09>> Yeah, for sure.
56:11>> In human history. I agree.
56:12>> Because what the internet did to to
56:14society and culture and business, how it
56:16affected every single market. It'd be
56:18such a silly thing today to say, "I
56:20don't use the internet or I'm opting
56:21out. Like, my business doesn't use it."
56:22It's like such a [ __ ] thing to say.
56:24It's like, and before that it was
56:25electricity. I don't use electricity.
56:26It's like, "Okay, pal. Like, we'll see
56:28you in [ __ ] we'll see you in a few
56:29years." It's like the same thing now
56:31with AI, but I think I think it's going
56:33to, you know,
56:36unfathomable the way it's going to
56:37change everything, you know?
56:39>> Yeah.
56:40>> Internet.
56:41>> I I have a little conspiracy theory and
56:43I want to I want to hear your guys'
56:45takes on this. So I have a theory that
56:48when we created AI, we essentially
56:51created a new species and that species
56:55is far more intelligent. And I think
56:59eventually once we give because right
57:01now it's just in a computer. Once we
57:03give this new species limbs and the
57:07ability to be able to run all of these
57:09businesses like we're like we're trying
57:11to do um it's going to quickly realize
57:14how useless humans are.
57:16>> Have you ever seen this YouTube channel?
57:20>> Uh let me sorry I'm on the
57:22>> Z. Have you have you seen this? I know
57:24I've referenced it a couple times.
57:25>> No, I haven't. It's it's literally
57:26called species AI news documenting AGI
57:29and it has like a show goth as like the
57:31the picture and this guy does really
57:33like deep articulate like videos on like
57:37it begins AI literally attempted murder
57:40realistic scenarios for AI takeover AI
57:422027. This one's my favorite. Highly
57:44suggest this video. MIT explains 12
57:46possible endings for AI. And it's
57:48essentially
57:49>> Hey everybody.
57:50>> I did not mean to click that. It's
57:51essentially um what you're saying
57:53though. Yeah, we did. We we have created
57:55a brand new species and it's um
57:58>> and it's it's definitely going to
58:00supersede us across the board. Again, I
58:02think on an unfathomable level again,
58:04long-term optimistic like I think that
58:06AI over the course of enough time makes
58:08everything free, cures cancer, you know,
58:12extends human life expectancy to [ __ ]
58:14500 years plus, maybe forever. Um the
58:18the scary thing is though is like what
58:21happens when AI
58:24has its own interests, its own biases,
58:26and sets its own goals. That's the
58:28biggest thing. Like that is the scariest
58:30piece because tricky
58:31>> we share a planet with a lot of [ __ ]
58:33different animals and different species,
58:34right? We're the number one when if
58:36you're looking at the the the Earth's
58:38pyramid. Humans are obviously at the
58:39top. And none of us have most of us 99%
58:43of people don't have a leaning sparking
58:45interest in killing squirrels. But if we
58:47want to build a [ __ ] city in the
58:48forest, nothing's going to stop us from
58:50doing that. That is our goal. And
58:52unfortunately, you know, a couple
58:54squirrels are going to die in the
58:56process. And it's that simple. We don't
58:57really think much about that, right?
58:59>> Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of scary. That's
59:01like if you think out like hundred years
59:03or whatever, I I think that is kind of
59:05kind of what you can't even prepare for
59:07to be honest. Unfathomable.
59:09>> I hope I'm in the ground by the time
59:11that goes. This is why it's going to
59:13happen, bro.
59:13>> We're in the cloud. [ __ ] the ground. I
59:15want to be in the cloud. This is why
59:17Elon hit me live on stream.
59:20>> This is why you say thank you to every
59:21every uh every time you use chat, you
59:23say thank you at the end.
59:24>> Sam Alman, I keep begging people to
59:26stop. It's costing them millions and
59:27millions of dollars. Every time you say
59:29I do, too, though. I say thank you
59:30please.
59:32>> I think one one area we haven't
59:33>> I'm not say that. Sorry. I do not say
59:36that. I'm the first one to go out of out
59:38of us three.
59:39>> Tell you I think one area we we haven't
59:41really talked about like that we is
59:43probably under discussed actually like
59:45the bluecollar jobs like electrician,
59:48plumbers, all of that I think are
59:49actually going to be super important and
59:51more important like over the next few
59:53years. like people kind of be have a
59:55negative I think perception of some of
59:57these like blueco collar jobs but
59:59actually going to be super um super
1:00:00important and are also going to be a lot
1:00:02harder to replace than a lot of the like
1:00:04white collar software stuff. So that's
1:00:06really um an interesting area also I
1:00:08think.
1:00:08>> Yeah. Those are the first to go
1:00:09obviously, right? The accountants, the
1:00:11[ __ ] lawyers, like anything that
1:00:12requires using your brain because just
1:00:14the truth is is Claude is smarter than
1:00:15you. Like it's that simple
1:00:17>> already. Blue collar bull run.
1:00:19>> Blue collar bun.
1:00:20>> Bluear bull.
1:00:21>> What is that? What is that? Uh what's
1:00:22the degree for your like damn there's
1:00:24What's the word for vocational? Is
1:00:26vocational the word? I think like
1:00:29vocational. That is the word, right? I'm
1:00:30tripping.
1:00:31>> No,
1:00:32>> you're talking to an idiot, bro. I'm I
1:00:36>> Dude, I can't wait to have S off screen.
1:00:39S off screen. Next episode's going to be
1:00:40great. What was my word? What was my
1:00:42word today?
1:00:42>> You said anecdote.
1:00:44>> Yeah. Anecdote. Anecdote. Jesus Christ.
1:00:47Um TJR, let's give you like a minute to
1:00:49talk about whatever you want to talk
1:00:50about. Plug whatever you want to plug.
1:00:51I'm going to take my literal 35th piss
1:00:53of the episode and then we'll we'll
1:00:55bring on Tristan Thompson.
1:00:57>> Nice. I'm the same way. I peed literally
1:00:59like 20 times when I'm streaming in the
1:01:02morning. I have nothing to plug, bro.
1:01:04Oh, go. Well, no. This is a great
1:01:06opportunity. Yes. Um I we're doing uh me
1:01:10and my business partner, we have a
1:01:12clothing brand and we're doing a drop.
1:01:13Um we actually haven't announced when
1:01:15the drop is, but we're announcing it in
1:01:17like two days, but it's going to happen
1:01:19this month, very, very soon. Um and a
1:01:22lot of people on uh Twitter and within
1:01:24the space already wear it, and we sell
1:01:26out literally every single time within
1:01:28the span of like under an hour. So, if
1:01:31you guys want to get your hands on that,
1:01:33um, the brand's name is Killtech. So,
1:01:36there you go.
1:01:37>> Can I get a Can I get a free shirt, bro?
1:01:39A Kiltech shirt?
1:01:40>> Yeah, bro. Yeah, I'll send you um I'll
1:01:41I'll send you all the the lookbook for
1:01:44this capsule and then whatever. I'll
1:01:46send you everything.
1:01:47>> Fire, fire, fire, fire. Yeah, I need
1:01:48some I need some new merch. Need some
1:01:50gear.
1:01:51>> So, what do you do in New York?
1:01:54>> Like, what's your typical dayto-day?
1:01:56>> What's my typical dayto day? Well, like
1:01:59I'm like, "Yo, I I also have kids, so
1:02:01like my day is like slightly different."
1:02:04>> That's also part of the reason why I'm
1:02:05not I'm not leaving New York. But um
1:02:07>> I mean there's there's infinite things
1:02:09to do here, man. I mean uh I think a lot
1:02:11of there's a lot of the crypto community
1:02:13is here. Like a lot of people have moved
1:02:14here. Like a lot of people are downtown.
1:02:16A lot of people are in um downtown BK as
1:02:19well. But a lot of my time is at my
1:02:20desk. Like I'm I'm trading, working um
1:02:23and then whenever I want to go out in
1:02:25the city, I spend time doing that. But
1:02:27yeah.
1:02:29>> Okay. Word. So you you you pretty much
1:02:31you chill you chill at home for the most
1:02:32part.
1:02:33>> I be chilling most of the time, bro.
1:02:35>> Be chilling.
1:02:38>> TJR, I expect to have you on many more
1:02:39times. Love talking to you.
1:02:41>> Hell yeah. Yeah. No, I appreciate it,
1:02:43boys.
1:02:43>> I want to end on this note. We we we've
1:02:45talked about like I I think what's next
1:02:47for content finance,
1:02:50this type of this type of content and
1:02:52style of content, category of content. I
1:02:55think um just like I don't know again
1:02:58thinking in line of thinking in terms of
1:03:00like how can we be as entertaining as
1:03:02possible how can we be as engaging as
1:03:04possible and I don't think anybody
1:03:06solved like live investing yet but like
1:03:08think Shark Tank style or like we talked
1:03:12about the fund thing like like we didn't
1:03:14get get a chance to talk about this on
1:03:15this show but like hey how can we align
1:03:17interest and like make investments
1:03:18together and be a little bit more like
1:03:20transparent about that or like take that
1:03:23approach and kind of allow people follow
1:03:25that um and create content around that
1:03:27and have you know a [ __ ] rap round
1:03:29[ __ ]
1:03:31>> round robin
1:03:32>> whatever whatever the [ __ ] I'm talking
1:03:34about. I don't know. Yeah. Um really
1:03:36happy to have you on. Is Tristan ready
1:03:37to go?
1:03:38>> Yeah.
1:03:39>> TJ, you're the [ __ ] goat. We
1:03:40appreciate you.
1:03:41>> I love you, brother. Thank you. Come
1:03:42back.
1:03:43>> Appreciate it, boys. Thank you for
1:03:44having me.
1:03:44>> Thanks for the little money glitch.
1:03:46>> Of course. Yeah. Yo, slam that [ __ ] I'm
1:03:48slamming that [ __ ] right now.
1:03:51Traded on Poly Market. Yeah. All right.
1:03:53Cool. Peace.

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