This TRIPLES Autophagy and Drops Belly Fat in 12 Hours — Transcript
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- 0:00So, you're fasting for autophagy, but
- 0:01you don't actually feel like you're
- 0:02getting the effects from it. Like you
- 0:04don't feel like you're getting cellular
- 0:05recycling. You don't feel like you're
- 0:06younger. Maybe you're still losing
- 0:08muscle. Maybe you're still holding fat
- 0:09around the midsection. There's a very
- 0:11good chance that that is because fasting
- 0:13only hits one of three autophagy
- 0:15pathways. The other two need different
- 0:17triggers. There was a clinical trial
- 0:19that even gave adults a specific
- 0:21compound, and they found that there were
- 0:22significant improvements in muscular
- 0:25endurance in 4 months. But this wasn't
- 0:27from training. It was because it
- 0:28increased autophagy at a muscular level,
- 0:31all the way down to their mitochondria.
- 0:33And the reason that I mention that is
- 0:34not because I'm saying you should take
- 0:36this compound. I'm saying it worked on a
- 0:38completely different angle than fasting
- 0:41does. So, we know that there's different
- 0:43ways to instigate autophagy besides just
- 0:45calorie restriction, which is fasting.
- 0:48So, what I'm going to teach you is how
- 0:49we can stack all three to work together.
- 0:52Pathway one we'll talk about, which is
- 0:53what exercise does at a molecular level
- 0:56to trigger mitophagy and autophagy, but
- 0:59also why the timing is so important with
- 1:01that. And then we're going to talk about
- 1:02pathway two, how fasting flips a
- 1:05completely different set of switches,
- 1:07and why even like a moderate overnight
- 1:09fast can actually count. So, you don't
- 1:11need to be doing extended long like
- 1:13multi-day fasts. Then we're going to
- 1:14talk about pathway three. Okay, this is
- 1:16a compound that activates the pathway.
- 1:18It's the one that I mentioned that this
- 1:19research was on. And this is an
- 1:20interesting one because a lot of
- 1:22people's bodies can't convert this
- 1:24compound out of food, but you can if you
- 1:26learn how to do it right. So, we'll talk
- 1:28about that. And I'll show you how to
- 1:29stack all three so that you get the
- 1:30maximum autophagy. So, let's go ahead
- 1:32and start with exercise first. Okay,
- 1:33there was a study that was published in
- 1:35a review in Exercise and Sport Sciences.
- 1:37And this broke down what happens inside
- 1:39the muscle cell during and after. When
- 1:42you exercise, you burn through ATP. That
- 1:45is your cell's energy currency. As ATP
- 1:47drops, the ratio of AMP to ATP rises,
- 1:52and that activates this enzyme that's
- 1:53called AMPK. AMPK switches on another
- 1:58pathway, which is called ULK1. A lot of
- 2:00acronyms, right? This is the main
- 2:02upstream initiator of autophagosome
- 2:04formation, which means it literally
- 2:06starts building the structures that
- 2:08engulf and recycle damaged mitochondria.
- 2:11The review made this pathway's
- 2:12importance very clear because when
- 2:14researchers knock out either AMPK or ULK
- 2:18in muscle, exercise-induced autophagy
- 2:21was blocked entirely. It wasn't reduced,
- 2:24it was blocked. So, AMPK-ULK1
- 2:27isn't one of several exercise signals,
- 2:29it is the essential one. So, people are
- 2:30like, "Oh, exercise induces autophagy
- 2:32and it does it through major systems."
- 2:34No, it does it through one very simple
- 2:37essential system. Now, the reason that
- 2:39timing matters so much, this review
- 2:41found that acute exercise produces
- 2:44mitochondrial oxidative stress post
- 2:46exercise with actual peak autophagy
- 2:49occurring at about 6 hours after the
- 2:51session. So, the cleanup isn't happening
- 2:54while you're training. It is happening
- 2:56hours later. Now, what does this mean
- 2:58for like your diet? What does this mean
- 2:59for what you do? Believe it or not, this
- 3:01sounds wild, but it actually means that
- 3:03if you can fast for a little bit after
- 3:06your workout, like if you train in the
- 3:08morning, if you can fast for a few hours
- 3:11after that workout, you can amplify
- 3:13fasting on top of it. So, you can
- 3:14amplify fasting autophagy on top of the
- 3:16exercise autophagy because believe it or
- 3:18not, it's working on a different
- 3:19pathway. But, the type of exercise
- 3:21matters, too. Resistance training is
- 3:23particularly relevant because mechanical
- 3:26loading, even isometrics, like just
- 3:28holding that mechanical load, directly
- 3:30drives mitochondrial fission.
- 3:32Mitochondrial fission is the
- 3:33fragmentation step that has to happen.
- 3:36It has to happen before autophagy can
- 3:38clear the damaged pieces. So, with
- 3:40resistance training, it needs to be
- 3:42intense enough. When I had Dorian Yates
- 3:44on the channel, we talked about this,
- 3:45like intensity is everything. It's for
- 3:47quality, not quantity muscle. So,
- 3:49intensity matters for how strong that
- 3:51autophagy signal is. So, if you're doing
- 3:53light walking or you're doing like light
- 3:55resistance training, you're not training
- 3:57somewhat close to failure, and you're
- 3:59not seeing these like benefits from you
- 4:01would think like autophagy, you're not
- 4:03feeling like you're looking younger,
- 4:04well, the AMPK signal might actually not
- 4:07be strong enough to fully initiate the
- 4:08cascade. You have guys like whether you
- 4:10agree with them or not, people like Dave
- 4:12Asprey, people like they talk about this
- 4:14and they're not wrong that exercise
- 4:15should be intense and short. I'm
- 4:17addicted to exercise and I probably
- 4:18train too long and I probably train too
- 4:21hard for too long and it shows. It
- 4:23breaks me down and I look weathered and
- 4:25torn. But, I also enjoy it, so I get
- 4:27something out of it. But, the evidence
- 4:28is pretty clear that intensity and short
- 4:30bouts of intensity are good. It could
- 4:32even be 15 or 20 minutes. Now, let's
- 4:34move over to fasting for a little bit
- 4:36because this uses a different entry
- 4:38point into the same cleanup process. And
- 4:40there was a systematic review in the
- 4:41Journal of Cachexia, Sarcopenia, and
- 4:43Muscle and it pulled together all the
- 4:45available evidence on caloric
- 4:47restriction and fasting as mitophagy
- 4:49triggers. So, mitophagy is autophagy
- 4:51specifically for the mitochondria. And
- 4:53what they found was that caloric
- 4:55restriction is still one of the
- 4:56strongest known non-genetic triggers for
- 4:59autophagy and mitophagy. And the primary
- 5:01mechanism is simple mTOR suppression.
- 5:04So, mTOR is essentially the main break
- 5:06on autophagy. When it's active, cleanup
- 5:08slows down. Fasting simply releases that
- 5:10break. But, fasting doesn't really stop
- 5:12there because it's simultaneously
- 5:14activating AMPK and it's also activating
- 5:16these things called sirtuins, which like
- 5:18Dr. David Sinclair talks about. This is
- 5:20a well-known fasting mechanism. And this
- 5:22pushes autophagy and mitophagy forward
- 5:25from the activation side. So, if you
- 5:27look at like rodent model and other
- 5:28mammalian models, fasting directly
- 5:30upregulates multiple pathways. We have
- 5:32PINK1, we have Parkin, we have BNIP3, we
- 5:35have NIX, we have LC3A, these are all
- 5:37molecular markers that confirm that
- 5:40active mitophagy is underway. But, the
- 5:42important distinction is that fasting
- 5:45primarily drives mitophagy through B-Nip
- 5:473. That is a different molecular route
- 5:50in the AMPK pathway that exercise uses.
- 5:53So, when we talk about exercise inducing
- 5:55autophagy the same as fasting, that is
- 5:58not entirely accurate. Okay, it does
- 6:01induce autophagy and exercise quite
- 6:02frankly induces autophagy more than
- 6:04fasting, but it does it differently.
- 6:06Exercising in a fasted state does
- 6:09compound your autophagy. When you fast
- 6:12and exercise on the same day or even
- 6:14concurrently, you're not just doubling
- 6:16up on a signal. You are activating two
- 6:18separate systems and this is super
- 6:20important. So, even a moderate like 14,
- 6:24even 12 hour fast is enough to keep mTOR
- 6:26suppressed and and AMPK elevated to get
- 6:29that benefit. And then when you start
- 6:30exercising, you actually drive that down
- 6:32even more. I mean, time restricted
- 6:34eating, fasting in and of itself is
- 6:36going to lead to some degree of caloric
- 6:38restriction at least at some point in
- 6:39time, which the review still identified
- 6:41as the core driver here. I popped the
- 6:42link down below for the probiotic that I
- 6:45personally use. I use this one four to
- 6:46five times per week. I don't take it
- 6:48every single day, but I do take it more
- 6:50frequently if I'm under stress or if I'm
- 6:52traveling and my gut biome is changing.
- 6:53It allows me to sort of have homeostasis
- 6:56so I don't feel all over the place, but
- 6:57also I've noticed a difference in my fat
- 6:59burning, how easy it is for my
- 7:01metabolism to kind of function, at least
- 7:02how I perceive it functioning, and then
- 7:04my sleep. I've also noticed a major
- 7:06difference in my digestion. So, it's the
- 7:07only probiotic I've ever recommended.
- 7:09They use a capsule inside of a capsule
- 7:10technology, which is very interesting
- 7:12and in my opinion it's why it works so
- 7:14well. out Seed's synbiotic down below.
- 7:17Now, I want to talk about the third
- 7:18pathway, but something to note when you
- 7:20are fasting is that your electrolytes
- 7:22can get out of whack. So, I do want to
- 7:23make a note to make sure that you're
- 7:25getting some salt water in. Make sure
- 7:27that you're focusing on electrolyte
- 7:29balance here because we have also
- 7:30learned from some of my other videos,
- 7:32hydration plays a huge role in muscle
- 7:34soreness and muscle recovery and that is
- 7:36not just drinking water. That's water
- 7:38actually getting where it needs to go.
- 7:40So, what I would recommend is use some
- 7:42electrolytes and also even a low-dose
- 7:44creatine with your electrolytes or at
- 7:46another time. So, creatine and
- 7:47electrolytes work really well together
- 7:49to draw water into the actual muscle
- 7:51cell, keeping you hydrated at a core
- 7:53level. Glycerol is also a great tool to
- 7:55use. A small amount, half a tablespoon
- 7:57or so, can draw water because it's
- 7:59hydrophilic. It draws water into the
- 8:01muscle cell out of just the subcutaneous
- 8:03area into the muscle so you're truly
- 8:04hydrated at a muscle cell level. A
- 8:06dehydrated muscle cell becomes insulin
- 8:08resistant, it becomes disfunctional,
- 8:10and it doesn't recover, and it's more
- 8:11susceptible to oxidative stress. So,
- 8:13hydration is so key, especially if
- 8:16you're fasting. This third pathway is
- 8:18really wild. This comes from a compound
- 8:20I've talked about quite a bit on this
- 8:21channel, but I'm not here to push a
- 8:23product with this. I just want to talk
- 8:24about how it's interesting and how you
- 8:26can potentially get it from food, too.
- 8:27Urolithin A. We've seen a lot of brands
- 8:30with urolithin A. It's a great compound,
- 8:32but forget that for just a second. Let's
- 8:33talk about just how it works because it
- 8:35is a completely different mechanism.
- 8:37Urolithin A is a postbiotic, so it's
- 8:39produced by our gut bacteria when they
- 8:41metabolize polyphenols from different
- 8:44foods, namely ellagitannins, but mostly
- 8:47you're going to get it from
- 8:47pomegranates. So, eating pomegranate
- 8:49gives you these ellagitannins, but what
- 8:51makes urolithin A interesting is that it
- 8:53uses a specific pathway to induce
- 8:55mitophagy. It uses the PINK1 Parkin
- 8:58pathway. This is a selective targeting
- 9:00system, so it identifies which specific
- 9:02mitochondria are damaged and it tags
- 9:05them for removal. It gets better at
- 9:07tagging, so it makes autophagy more
- 9:09accurate. And there was an RCT in JAMA
- 9:11that tested 1,000 mg of urolithin A, and
- 9:13they found that when people took this,
- 9:15muscle endurance were significant. They
- 9:17had more contractions before fatigue in
- 9:20both hand and leg muscles, which use
- 9:21very different fiber types, very
- 9:24different kinds of muscle. So, it's what
- 9:25you would predict if autophagy and
- 9:27mitophagy is doing its job. You have
- 9:28healthier mitochondria sustaining work
- 9:30for longer. And the biomarkers
- 9:31confirmed. They saw reliable blood
- 9:33markers that mitochondrial function is
- 9:35genuinely improving. Okay, they saw CRP,
- 9:37systemic inflammation trending lower.
- 9:39So, urolithin A is accessing this other
- 9:41pathway for autophagy or mitophagy
- 9:43specifically that you do not necessarily
- 9:45get from exercise the same way and you
- 9:47do not get from fasting the same way.
- 9:49You have three pathways with three
- 9:50different molecular switches. Exercise
- 9:53AMPK and ULK. Fasting is BNIP and mTOR
- 9:56suppression. And urolithin A is PINK1
- 9:57and Parkin. None of them depend on the
- 9:59others to work. So, here's how I would
- 10:01recommend stacking this all together.
- 10:02And just so you know with the urolithin
- 10:03A, you can consume pomegranate seeds and
- 10:06get the urolithin A. And the research is
- 10:08showing that if you consistently consume
- 10:10them, you start to develop the bacteria
- 10:13that will allow you to extract the
- 10:14urolithin A from them. On average at
- 10:16first, only about 12% of people have the
- 10:19microbiome to really get urolithin A out
- 10:21of pomegranates. Eventually, you'll
- 10:23start getting up to about 60% of people.
- 10:25But the longer research shows, the more
- 10:27that you eat them consistently and like
- 10:29every day, you develop the bacteria, the
- 10:31Akkermansia, that helps break down the
- 10:33pomegranates and extract the urolithin
- 10:35A. So, you can get it from food. It's
- 10:37just not as concentrated as a compound.
- 10:38So, when we're stacking all these things
- 10:40together, high-intensity short bouts of
- 10:42resistance training for mechanical
- 10:44loading. That means like eight to 10 rep
- 10:46range, trying to do it in a fasted state
- 10:48with peak mitophagy about 6 hours post
- 10:50session. So, trying to train earlier in
- 10:52the day and then remain fasted if you
- 10:54can. If that's your goal is to maximize
- 10:56autoph- A 14-16 hour overnight fast,
- 10:58that's all you need for this. And if
- 11:00you're supplementing with urolithin A,
- 11:01take that with your evening meal. That
- 11:03way you get a sustained effect
- 11:04throughout your overnight fast. It's
- 11:05circulating during your sleeping period.
- 11:07So, all three distinct pathways can work
- 11:09together. Mitophagy isn't something that
- 11:11you need to max out through one
- 11:12approach. You have these different
- 11:14outlets and these different routes and
- 11:15that's going to get you the most out of
- 11:17it in the shortest amount of time. Now,
- 11:18if you want to get more out of the
- 11:19fasting pathway specifically, I did a
- 11:21video on how adding all of oil to a
- 11:24fasting day can double autophagy while
- 11:26actually improving insulin resistance in
- 11:28literally a day. So, I'll link to that
- 11:29video right here. This video went pretty
- 11:31viral because it actually works. So,
- 11:32check that one out and I'll see you
- 11:33tomorrow.
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