This Is How People Quietly Get Rich Reselling Clothes — Transcript
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- 0:00This guy makes $120,000
- 0:02a month reselling clothes online and he
- 0:05only started last year. Believe it or
- 0:07not, this is the only business where you
- 0:09can actually start with zero dollars. I
- 0:11knew nothing about clothes when I first
- 0:12started. This month alone we listed over
- 0:144,000 items on eBay completely on
- 0:16autopilot.
- 0:17>> But where do all these clothes come
- 0:18from? Americans are discarding over 90
- 0:21million pounds of clothing every single
- 0:23day. This is about getting our little
- 0:24piece of the pie.
- 0:25>> And who's buying all this used stuff?
- 0:28The key to selling high volume on eBay
- 0:30is by finding mid-grade items.
- 0:32>> I'm here to find out how he turns
- 0:34literal rags into riches.
- 0:39David, you make mad money, but before we
- 0:41get to the juicy part, tell us and our
- 0:43audience how you got started in this
- 0:44business. Yeah, so I started by coming
- 0:47to flea markets and thrift stores.
- 0:48Picked up my very first item here at
- 0:50this flea market. Picked it up for $1,
- 0:52sold it for 35. It just opened my eyes
- 0:54to the possibilities of it and then I
- 0:56kept doing it and it kept working. So
- 0:58we're trying to spend as little as
- 0:59possible and make $600 right now. We're
- 1:02going to show you exactly how that
- 1:03happens right on the go.
- 1:05Good morning. Our suit jackets are five
- 1:07bucks each. Jackets five bucks, okay. So
- 1:09we're looking for brand, we're looking
- 1:10for
- 1:11condition. This is a vintage Columbia.
- 1:14This is a vintage Eddie Bauer. This one
- 1:17is really good. Is it right?
- 1:18>> It's a Rocawear. Big sizes sell very
- 1:20well on eBay. So once you buy these
- 1:21items, David, how much prep work are we
- 1:23talking about? Do we wash it? Do all
- 1:25gets washed, ironed, etc.? Try to make
- 1:28sure everything is clean and washed. So
- 1:29we got a washing machine on site. All
- 1:31right, so we're at the actual flea
- 1:33market where you got started years and
- 1:34years ago. Walk me through the process.
- 1:36Like what are some hidden opportunities
- 1:38that somebody less experienced might not
- 1:40notice being here? Yeah, I think a lot
- 1:42of people overlook a lot of very common
- 1:44items that they don't see the value in.
- 1:47So the more you learn, the more you
- 1:48search up, you get more knowledge and
- 1:50find a hidden opportunity within
- 1:52anything in here and flip it on on eBay
- 1:55for a profit, you know. This is our
- 1:56haul. How many items? I got 15 items in
- 1:59what, 10 minutes? Yep, and we spent 75
- 2:01bucks. Right here I'm projected to make
- 2:02about 450 bucks on my $75 investment in
- 2:05like 10 minutes. That's pretty epic.
- 2:11All right, so we just came from the flea
- 2:12market.
- 2:13>> Yep.
- 2:13>> Next thing we're going to do, assuming
- 2:14we clean them, wash them, is take
- 2:16photos. And I want to ask what are the
- 2:17best practices specifically for eBay
- 2:19photos? Yeah, so you want to have nice
- 2:21clear pictures of any flaws. You want to
- 2:24have a nice presentation. Honestly, most
- 2:26people don't have a photo station. So
- 2:28the best practice is just to use the
- 2:30floor at the house. You know, if you
- 2:32want to invest 20 bucks into a little
- 2:33ring light, you can, but it's not
- 2:35necessary. We're just going to set this
- 2:36up right here. Assuming everything's
- 2:38ready to go. I can't believe you're
- 2:40putting it on a dirty floor, David.
- 2:41>> Yeah, it's going to get washed. Okay,
- 2:43there you go. I try to take about 12
- 2:45pictures for each item. We're just going
- 2:46to take a nice clear picture of the
- 2:48front, the sides, the arms, and then we
- 2:51do the tag to show the size.
- 2:54I was going to say, besides photos, what
- 2:56else do our viewers need to know when it
- 2:57comes to taking photos, listing properly
- 2:59on eBay? What else are we throwing in
- 3:01there?
- 3:01>> keywords on the title is very, very
- 3:03important when it comes to clothing on
- 3:05eBay. This is a parka military jacket.
- 3:07If you don't add parka military on the
- 3:09title, it's not going to cause it to pop
- 3:12up on eBay and sell faster. So keywords
- 3:14are very, very important for each item.
- 3:16All right, you ready to go pack
- 3:17something and ship it? Absolutely.
- 3:19>> Let's see how you do it. Yeah.
- 3:20How do you decide what goes on eBay
- 3:23versus wholesaling? It's actually the
- 3:24same exact kind of product. All the
- 3:26stuff that I throw into wholesale
- 3:27pallets, it's exactly the same what I
- 3:30would list. I just keep the thousand
- 3:32dollar things on top. I keep it 100%
- 3:34honest. Anything from 20 to 80 dollars
- 3:36is what I sell. Anything that I sell in
- 3:38pallets is 20 to 80 dollars. All right,
- 3:41so I mean, this is my shoe. You tell me
- 3:43I could list this on eBay right now and
- 3:45and and make a profit. You can
- 3:47absolutely sell this. This is the kind
- 3:49of stuff I sell every single day. My dad
- 3:51sells a ton of shoes just like that.
- 3:53Tell us a little bit about your
- 3:54upbringing. Do you come from money and
- 3:56where does your entrepreneurial drive
- 3:57and spirit come from? We came from
- 3:59absolutely nothing. My parents are from
- 4:01Mexico.
- 4:02When I grew up, my dad rented out a shed
- 4:04for my mom and myself when I was a baby.
- 4:07So like that's where we come from, but
- 4:09my dad always had the knack for being a
- 4:11businessman. So growing up that's all I
- 4:13saw. He he ran businesses and I just
- 4:15knew that's what I wanted to do. Can you
- 4:17think of your first transaction ever?
- 4:19Maybe it was in when you were five, six
- 4:20years old, maybe later?
- 4:21>> That was in middle school. All my
- 4:23friends were in basketball, were in
- 4:25baseball, or in football. One time my
- 4:27dad sold me
- 4:29Under Armour
- 4:30shirts like long sleeves and football
- 4:33cleats. He was like, "Hey, if you can
- 4:34sell these, you keep the profit." So I
- 4:36sold the entire football team the same
- 4:38cleats and I sold a bunch of Under
- 4:40Armour shirts to all the basketball
- 4:41team. That's That was in 13 years old.
- 4:44It was like three bucks a pop, maybe.
- 4:46True hustler right here.
- 4:48All right, how many items a month do you
- 4:49ship?
- 4:50>> So right now we have like about 9,000
- 4:52items going out across the whole
- 4:53business going out every month. 9,000?
- 4:56That's insane. Walk us through the exact
- 4:58shipping process. So I believe we just
- 5:00You just got an order. Yeah.
- 5:01>> Walk us through the process. We just
- 5:03pulled the item out of the inventory. So
- 5:05this is a Mountain Hardware
- 5:07little hiking jacket, snow jacket. And
- 5:10we just try to weigh out every single
- 5:11item to get the accurate shipping price.
- 5:14And what do we got? 202 ounces? Yes, and
- 5:17I always round up, so I'll just put 2.3.
- 5:19So when it comes to shipping, what makes
- 5:20clothes more attractive as opposed to
- 5:22anything else? So I used to do
- 5:23electronics and when you have 40
- 5:25electronics to ship in a day, boxes,
- 5:27bubble wrap, big heavy things is much,
- 5:30much difficult than just This already
- 5:32packed. Putting it in there, closing it,
- 5:34it's done. That's it. No tape, no bubble
- 5:37wrap, 7 cents. That's it. How many were
- 5:40you able to do on your own, David,
- 5:42before you're like, "Man, I need to hire
- 5:43because I want to scale"? I would do
- 5:44like a thousand a month in the past.
- 5:47Going out on your own?
- 5:48>> All by myself. And listing the items,
- 5:50prepping them, going out and buying
- 5:51them, doing everything by myself, just
- 5:54working really hard. But once you really
- 5:55want to scale more than that, you do
- 5:57need the help, you know. Okay, when I'm
- 5:59first starting out, obviously I'm not
- 6:00going to have probably somebody pick it
- 6:01up from my home, right? Cuz you do. You
- 6:03have a lot of volume here, guys. But why
- 6:05don't we hit the hit the road and go
- 6:06visit a post office and send this thing
- 6:08out.
- 6:09So you mentioned starting this business
- 6:11takes almost zero dollars to get going.
- 6:13What do you mean by that? Can you Can
- 6:14you share more details? You don't really
- 6:15have to invest in any racking system,
- 6:18picture station, or even a shipping
- 6:19label printer. You don't have to do any
- 6:21of that. Where do I get going? Start
- 6:23with your closet. Start one by one. You
- 6:25probably have three, five thousand
- 6:26dollars worth of clothes in your closet.
- 6:29>> How much is this jacket? How much did
- 6:30you pay for it?
- 6:31>> Retail. God, I love it too much. It's
- 6:32been a while. Let's say in five years
- 6:34you don't want it. Paid 100 bucks plus,
- 6:35you could sell it for 50 in five years.
- 6:37>> Wow. Yeah, easy. That's pretty dope.
- 6:39What if I don't want to part with my
- 6:40clothes? I don't want I don't have extra
- 6:42cash to spend on buying at thrift
- 6:44stores. What are other creative ways to
- 6:47get going at the very basic level? Go
- 6:49and ask all your relatives if they have
- 6:51extra clothes that they don't want to
- 6:52use anymore, that they want to donate to
- 6:54you. You can start a whole business with
- 6:56that. Over eight years doing this, have
- 6:58you ever lost faith in yourself, your
- 6:59business? Can you think of a specific
- 7:01example and how did you overcome it? Um
- 7:03yes, absolutely. So a year ago, um I
- 7:06lost my wholesale supplier for
- 7:08electronics. I used to do electronics
- 7:09mainly and my eBay went totally down. I
- 7:11was almost considering not doing eBay
- 7:13anymore and potentially getting a job.
- 7:15And I've completely like got to the
- 7:18point where I was about to quit, lost
- 7:19faith, and then I was like, "Okay, I'm
- 7:21going to give this one more shot. How
- 7:23about I try clothing?" That was one year
- 7:24ago and here we are right now, one year
- 7:26later. You're killing it, bro.
- 7:28It's amazing. What did you learn from
- 7:30that one experience, losing the
- 7:32supplier? I want to That you can't rely
- 7:33on one supplier for your whole business
- 7:36model. You need many avenues to get
- 7:38product. You can't rely on thrift store,
- 7:39you can't rely on one flea market
- 7:41vendor, one flea market. You need to
- 7:43expand the way of getting product from
- 7:45all the different areas. That's how you
- 7:47win in this business, you know.
- 7:50So this is shipping, receiving. Guys, if
- 7:53this isn't impressive, I don't know what
- 7:54it is. Okay, be honest. How many stuff
- 7:56do you actually keep for yourself? I
- 7:57mean, is this coat
- 8:01something you found in a flea market? I
- 8:02didn't find this in here, but I do keep
- 8:05quite a bit of things here and there
- 8:07that fits me good. I just always keep
- 8:08jeans,
- 8:09I don't have to go to the mall anymore,
- 8:11you know, cuz we got Santa Claus at
- 8:13home, you know.
- 8:14All right, can we go check out the
- 8:15inventory? Absolutely.
- 8:16>> Want to show your our audience kind of
- 8:18how you set it up. It looks pretty
- 8:19simple, but want to see if there's
- 8:20anything behind the scenes. Absolutely.
- 8:22Let's go.
- 8:26How are you able to sell so many items,
- 8:28so much inventory on eBay? Yeah, so I I
- 8:31follow a 80/20 rule when it comes to my
- 8:33eBay store. 80% of my store is full of
- 8:35medium grade items. They go for from 20
- 8:38to 30 dollars, very simple everyday
- 8:40value stuff. And then the 20% of my
- 8:43store is like 80, 100 dollar things, 500
- 8:46dollar things, 600 Louis Vuitton. That's
- 8:48a very small percentage of my store.
- 8:50Everything is numbered. Can you Can you
- 8:52help us understand how your inventory
- 8:53system works? Yeah, so it starts from
- 8:55001 to infinity. No numbers ever repeat
- 8:59themselves. So that way within this, you
- 9:02know, little space that we have here, we
- 9:04consolidate and move back all the
- 9:06inventory. Last month we sold this
- 9:09entire rack was empty once we
- 9:11consolidated. That's how much stuff we
- 9:13sold within like one month.
- 9:14>> So then what would you recommend who
- 9:15doesn't want to sell and move this much
- 9:17volume in terms of getting started?
- 9:19Yeah, so when I first started, I focused
- 9:21on 100 dollar things, 200 dollar things,
- 9:23500 dollar things only and only selling
- 9:26a few of those.
- 9:27But it's very difficult to get that many
- 9:29of those in order to really grow a
- 9:31business. It's It's harder to come by
- 9:33those kinds of items. But if you're just
- 9:34trying to make extra an extra 3,000,
- 9:375,000 dollars a month, selling 20 things
- 9:40can result in that result of gaining
- 9:425,000 dollars a month. So I tell people
- 9:45when they're first starting out, if they
- 9:46want to keep it small, focus on high end
- 9:48things, turning five into 200 if
- 9:51possible. It doesn't come often. It does
- 9:53happen. You got to really treasure hunt
- 9:56and be out actively for those deals.
- 9:58This is more predictable. This is
- 10:00infinite. I can get an infinite amount
- 10:02of these kinds of things. So, it's more
- 10:04scalable.
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- 11:09eBay fees, I got to wonder, are they
- 11:11worth it? Talk to us about that. Yeah,
- 11:13so eBay fees are 100% worth it. I paid
- 11:156,000 last month in pure eBay fees,
- 11:18which is like a 12.5% something like
- 11:19that. eBay spends billions of dollars on
- 11:22marketing, so that all you have to do is
- 11:24take a picture, post it onto eBay, and
- 11:27you get customers through their
- 11:28platform, through their marketing. They
- 11:30get 100 million users a month on eBay,
- 11:32and we get access to those people by
- 11:35paying those fees. That's the way I look
- 11:36at it.
- 11:37>> Mhm. All right, let's go check out the
- 11:38office a little bit up close. I know we
- 11:39did some shipping there, but I want to
- 11:40see what else you do. Yeah, absolutely.
- 11:42Cool.
- 11:43You are shipping an tremendous amount of
- 11:45items, and it's hard to believe you can
- 11:47source everything from a thrift store.
- 11:49Can you Can you share more on that? I
- 11:50buy from donation pickup centers,
- 11:53recycling centers that I can get
- 11:55clothing in massive quantities, raw
- 11:57untouched clothing. Um and that's where
- 12:00I buy it. I have my little people that I
- 12:02call, and they fulfill a whole truck and
- 12:05then get it delivered here. That's where
- 12:07I'm at now.
- 12:07>> To get to your scale, that's probably a
- 12:09must then, right?
- 12:10In bulk.
- 12:11>> The only way to get to this point is
- 12:13buying in massive quantities. What are
- 12:15they charging to buy in bulk? It's
- 12:16usually anywhere from 30 to 65 cents per
- 12:20pound depending on where it's at, who
- 12:22you're dealing with. Not everything is
- 12:23good. If everything was good, I'd be
- 12:25making a million dollars per truck,
- 12:26right? But, um there's a lot of excess
- 12:29stuff like baby clothing, but then
- 12:31there's some really amazing things in
- 12:33there, also. So, it's it's just all raw,
- 12:36and then we sort it out, we separate it,
- 12:38we wash it, we clean it, we prep it. So,
- 12:40we get it extremely cheap, but there's a
- 12:42lot of work that goes into it.
- 12:43>> How much of it of it ends up in the
- 12:44garbage? We try to only throw away stuff
- 12:47that is like literally the bags that
- 12:49goes in there. None of it gets
- 12:50discarded. We try to make sure
- 12:52everything is recycled properly. There's
- 12:54a lot of rag houses, places that use
- 12:58that stuff. They cut up old clothing,
- 13:00turn it into rags, recycle it. I don't
- 13:02like to throw anything in the dump. I
- 13:03want to make sure that everything that
- 13:05we get gets done properly, you know?
- 13:08How much were you able to generate
- 13:10revenue-wise if it's just thrift stores
- 13:11or flea markets, for example? I got to
- 13:1318,000 a month
- 13:15with pure thrift stores and flea markets
- 13:19by myself.
- 13:20>> number for most people. Yeah,
- 13:21absolutely. It just It was a lot of
- 13:23effort.
- 13:24If somebody wants to start buying in
- 13:26bulk, what kind of supplier should they
- 13:27be looking for? Yeah, so a really good
- 13:29option
- 13:30that's out there is a Goodwill Bins
- 13:32Outlet. So, the Goodwill Bins Outlet is
- 13:35a great way to get 100 lbs 200 lbs in a
- 13:37day,
- 13:38which it's a it's quite a bit of volume
- 13:40for someone that does it out of their
- 13:41house. You can go there, pay by the
- 13:43pound a dollar 96 depending on where
- 13:45you're at in the country, turn it into
- 13:4730 if you focus on better stuff,
- 13:50you know? So, one day you can spend 196,
- 13:52make get $3,000 with the stuff. I mean,
- 13:55we've mentioned this statistic, right?
- 13:56Over 90 million pounds get dumped every
- 13:59day in America.
- 14:00>> Yeah. And yet, you make it sound like
- 14:02finding bulk sellers, you know,
- 14:04truckloads of clothes is is a little
- 14:05tough. Why Why is that? A lot of stuff
- 14:07gets exported out of the country. I see.
- 14:09Most of the stuff, the bulk of the stuff
- 14:12gets out of here. It doesn't stay in
- 14:13here for some reason. A lot of it goes
- 14:15to India, Pakistan, Africa, South
- 14:18America, Europe. It's all exported
- 14:21mainly.
- 14:21>> serious money with that export.
- 14:23Absolutely.
- 14:24>> Is there an immediate step between
- 14:25thrifting and then buying truckloads of
- 14:28clothes? There's not a straight line to
- 14:30follow to get to that point, but that's
- 14:32where you start. If you build up a
- 14:34relationship with someone that owns a
- 14:36thrift store, that can maybe sell you
- 14:38Goodwill overstock like a full truckload
- 14:40of something, that's maybe where that
- 14:41could go,
- 14:42but there's not a step-by-step plan to
- 14:44get to that point. You got to have to
- 14:46kind of figure it out. Obviously, I
- 14:49share as much as I possibly can, and I
- 14:51help a lot of people find these kinds of
- 14:52connections as well. Through like my
- 14:54YouTube channel, I help a lot of people.
- 14:55I give it out. I truly believe there's
- 14:57so much out there for everyone that me
- 15:00giving it out isn't going to affect me
- 15:01too much. I just can't give out specific
- 15:03phone numbers, but I can, you know,
- 15:05point people in the right direction.
- 15:06Yeah, the law of abundance, my friend.
- 15:08Absolutely, it's true. Yeah. How did you
- 15:10find your first bulk
- 15:12seller? I started out with just doing
- 15:14buyouts, people from flea markets that
- 15:17just had like that guy today at the flea
- 15:19market. He had a ton, and I'd be like,
- 15:22"Hey, um
- 15:23how much if you just like fill up my
- 15:24whole truck and bring it to the shop?"
- 15:26And I just buy out like 40 bags. That's
- 15:29how I started buying in bulk like that.
- 15:31You obviously understand your market
- 15:33very, very well. What's your advice to
- 15:35people new to this business to
- 15:37to, you know, to get ahead and and know
- 15:38how things work? Yeah, when I first
- 15:40started, it was just literally searching
- 15:42up item by item at the flea markets and
- 15:44thrift stores, getting idea for what
- 15:46something goes for, materials, brands,
- 15:49styles, all that goes into it. Watching
- 15:52a ton of videos, really like absorbing
- 15:55all the knowledge possible and then
- 15:57applying to that applying that right
- 15:58away into the business. And trial and
- 16:01error, going out to the flea market as I
- 16:03said was just the the biggest thing
- 16:04possible. You can watch stuff watch
- 16:06videos all day long, but really just
- 16:08getting out there physically and doing
- 16:10it really moves the needle really
- 16:11quickly. In addition to knowing your
- 16:13marketplace, what other important skills
- 16:15should you say would really be helpful
- 16:16for this business? For this business,
- 16:18you have to stay organized, have a nice
- 16:20overall system, but being organized is
- 16:22number one because if something isn't
- 16:25organized, you're going to lose
- 16:25packages, stuff is going to be late,
- 16:27you're not going to know where stuff is,
- 16:29and that's a very, very important in
- 16:30this business. Any best practices you
- 16:33can share with our viewers when it comes
- 16:34to processing, especially for beginners?
- 16:36Yeah, I would just say dissecting it
- 16:38into categories very simply like jackets
- 16:40and tops, shorts, jeans, and just
- 16:43breaking it up like that, it looks less
- 16:45overwhelming. When you get a bunch of
- 16:46stuff, it's like, "Oh, what do I do with
- 16:48all this?" Separating it, breaking it
- 16:50into pieces, and just taking your time
- 16:52with it as you go as you learn how to do
- 16:54everything.
- 16:55I think that's very good.
- 16:57Is it possible to find bulk suppliers
- 16:59online? Just chat GPT, Google?
- 17:02Uh it's very difficult, but there is a
- 17:03couple options. One idea is going on
- 17:05Whatnot. Whatnot is a live streaming
- 17:07platform. If I'm a seller and I have 100
- 17:10items, you go on there and you have a a
- 17:12bid for 10 seconds if you want, 6
- 17:15seconds. Hey guys, we're going to start
- 17:16this at three bucks, and it goes to 10,
- 17:1815, 20 depending on how valuable the
- 17:21item is. Whoever's in the live stream
- 17:23can purchase the item at 6 seconds.
- 17:25Yeah. Purchase paid for A4? All
- 17:28everything. And yeah, you can sell a lot
- 17:31of volume with that, also. Okay, I'll
- 17:33have to check it out.
- 17:34All right, my friend, when it comes to
- 17:35buying from bulk suppliers, what's the
- 17:37bare minimum orders that we need to be
- 17:38prepared to pay? So, this is the bare
- 17:40minimum order was 44,000 lbs, a full
- 17:4353-footer. That was like $23,000. Can I
- 17:46start smaller and buy 100 lbs from
- 17:48someone or There's a lot of people that
- 17:49buy stuff like this, separate all the
- 17:51good stuff out at wholesale little
- 17:52100-lb lots, 50-lb boxes. I personally
- 17:55don't offer that. We only do like bigger
- 17:57quantities. Both are hard. This is
- 17:59harder. Almost no one has access to
- 18:01this. There's no blueprint. There's no
- 18:03website that you can find. It's actually
- 18:05very difficult to get wholesale.
- 18:06Actually, a lot of people struggle with
- 18:07that. That's why I saw a a demand for
- 18:09that as well because I was trying to
- 18:10find some myself. I was like, "There's
- 18:11no one I No one's offering this." So, I
- 18:14saw a hole in the market. All right,
- 18:15blitz time with David. You ready? Mhm.
- 18:17Let's do it. Are there any types of
- 18:18clothing you stay away from and why? I
- 18:20try to avoid baby clothing and kids
- 18:22clothing. It sells a lot slower. When
- 18:24you sell on eBay, is it auctions or buy
- 18:26now? It's all buy it now. Out of all the
- 18:28listings Every single one is buy it now.
- 18:30Yeah. That's cool. What's your biggest
- 18:32strength and weakness? My biggest
- 18:33strength and weakness is that I'm very
- 18:35impulsive, so sometimes I got to hold
- 18:36myself back from growing a little too
- 18:38fast or just being a little aggressive
- 18:40buying stuff. So, that's that's it. How
- 18:42do you avoid wasting time answering lots
- 18:44of questions from buyers? I make sure we
- 18:46have very great pictures, very good
- 18:47descriptions, and great titles to really
- 18:50know to let people know what the item
- 18:52is, and then they don't even ask
- 18:53questions cuz it's all answered. Makes
- 18:55sense. You obviously are a hard worker,
- 18:56but how do you work But do you work
- 18:58weekends? I don't work weekends. Last
- 19:01one, what's a telltale sign that tells
- 19:02you someone isn't right for this
- 19:05business? Um if they can't just wake up
- 19:07and motivate themselves to get up and
- 19:09get after it,
- 19:10you know, not everyone is built for
- 19:12that. They just don't take action. Yeah.
- 19:14That's a wrap.
- 19:15You started as a sole operator. Now,
- 19:17you've got a team, team of five people.
- 19:18Can you tell us who they are and what
- 19:20are they doing? Yeah, so one is my
- 19:22cousin Richie, my sister's boyfriend.
- 19:24They both help me sort and separate all
- 19:26the truckloads. They are kind of a Swiss
- 19:29Army knife. They help me out with a lot
- 19:30of different tasks. And then I have my
- 19:32two sisters that are pretty much
- 19:34part-time. I have three photographers,
- 19:37my other sister's boyfriend. So, we got
- 19:39two potential brothers-in-law's in here,
- 19:41my two sisters, and the boyfriends. They
- 19:43all take pictures. They're all pretty
- 19:45much part-time. I know this is out of
- 19:46out of topic, but how many photos can
- 19:49they take or how many pieces of clothing
- 19:50can they go through in a day
- 19:52realistically? Every single day we're
- 19:54doing 200 a day and I I want to do more,
- 19:58but it is a little difficult to do that
- 19:59much. It takes a lot of hours, manpower,
- 20:01staying consistent, but we will get
- 20:02there. 200 is a lot, you know, every
- 20:05single day. Prepped, washed, cleaned,
- 20:06ready, photographed, listed, all that
- 20:09stuff every single day.
- 20:10What were your initial startup costs? I
- 20:12started off with zero dollars. I had a
- 20:13little small sneaker collection that was
- 20:16my personal use and I was like, "Hey
- 20:18man, I don't even use these anymore.
- 20:19Let's just start listing them up." And
- 20:21then I even quickly made 3,500 bucks
- 20:23with just a few sneakers. What did it
- 20:25cost you to hire your first employee? So
- 20:26yeah, it was mainly paying out the
- 20:28minimum wage at the time was like 16
- 20:30bucks an hour and then I had them
- 20:31part-time, 20 hours a week. So that was
- 20:34the cost right there. How many employees
- 20:36do you have as of today? Right now we
- 20:37have five. So across five employees,
- 20:40what's your total payroll expense as of
- 20:41today? It's about $17,000 in a month.
- 20:44Yeah.
- 20:45What are your total monthly expenses?
- 20:47Right now we're spending at about 50 to
- 20:4960,000 dollars a month overall. Wait, on
- 20:52on what? Uh the inventory, to buy a
- 20:55truck like this, the payroll like we
- 20:56talked about. I just bought a forklift.
- 20:59I'm about to buy a box truck. We're
- 21:00growing a lot right now. So obviously
- 21:03we generate 120 while we're growing.
- 21:05That's a beautiful thing. So whenever
- 21:07everything is nice and set up,
- 21:08everything's invested and stuff like
- 21:10that. I'm not buying a forklift every
- 21:11month. Once that's all taken care of, we
- 21:13put more cash in the bank account.
- 21:15Do you sell any other kind of clothing
- 21:17versus medium grade? And you mentioned
- 21:19that. Yeah, absolutely. I do sell a good
- 21:21amount of high-end stuff. It's very
- 21:23expensive, a thousand-dollar pieces. I
- 21:25just found a $1,500 t-shirt, AC/DC
- 21:28vintage 1992 original t-shirt from their
- 21:31tour. That's insane. So what percentage
- 21:34of your business is the, you know, the
- 21:35higher-end items?
- 21:36>> Uh like 8% if that of high-end stuff
- 21:39like that, but that's just cherry on
- 21:41top. What would be the profit margins
- 21:43then on mid-grade as opposed to
- 21:44high-end? Quite different? I make all my
- 21:46money back on mid-grade. When I sell
- 21:49something very expensive, it's usually
- 21:50pure profit, cherry on top. You did
- 21:53$120,000
- 21:54last month. How much of it was profit?
- 21:56So it was about 50 to 60% profit margins
- 21:59doing this.
- 22:00>> That's insane. I love anything over 30%.
- 22:03>> Anything over 30 is is golden. It's rare
- 22:06in in in business, for sure.
- 22:08Can you think of any specific values,
- 22:10lessons from childhood that you still
- 22:11carry forward in business today? Uh I
- 22:14think good old-fashioned hard work. You
- 22:15know, right now the business is growing
- 22:17exponentially and like right now my
- 22:19workers, they do a lot of the stuff in
- 22:21the back end, but it is important for me
- 22:23to be working hard consistently even
- 22:26when stuff is going great and not lose
- 22:28that competitive edge and always stay
- 22:30hungry, always want more, always
- 22:32continue growing and get better and that
- 22:34is the number one thing because in the
- 22:36past I would get complacent. I'd be very
- 22:38happy with where I was at and that's
- 22:40when stuff would slow down and that's my
- 22:42mentality.
- 22:43>> Complacency equals failure in other
- 22:44words.
- 22:45>> Yeah, that's exactly how I look at it
- 22:47now.
- 22:48Do you ever accept offers from customers
- 22:50who want to pay way less than your
- 22:51listing price? Absolutely. I always
- 22:53accept offers because the name of this
- 22:55game is moving product, moving product
- 22:56consistently. I always give amazing
- 22:58deals and people always come back and
- 23:00buy more. People always love a good deal
- 23:02on eBay and since I get my stuff so
- 23:04cheap, I have the luxury to do that.
- 23:07>> So is there like way too low number that
- 23:09you just won't accept? Absolutely.
- 23:11>> I think more than 40% off is a little
- 23:13too much unless it's a really expensive
- 23:15item that I just marked up too much cuz
- 23:17it was rare. Yeah. But for the most
- 23:19part, more than 50 is pushing it, you
- 23:21know. Like it's already a good deal
- 23:23compared to like retail. So 50 is the
- 23:25max. Yeah.
- 23:26>> That's fair.
- 23:27What's your approach to getting great
- 23:29reviews? Yeah, so I just make sure we we
- 23:32sell what we're saying that we're going
- 23:33to sell on the title, that the condition
- 23:35is exactly how it is and that ensures
- 23:37the customer's going to be happy and by
- 23:39default we get a lot of reviews. We have
- 23:42like over 8,000 reviews on my eBay store
- 23:43right now. Well, how does that work for
- 23:45eBay? Can you share any insights as far
- 23:46as their policy, negative, positive
- 23:49reviews, how to deal with it?
- 23:50>> A lot of people think that getting a
- 23:52negative review is a death sentence.
- 23:53Actually doesn't affect you your sales
- 23:55at all. You want as many positives as
- 23:57possible, but eBay just looks at it for
- 24:00people to gauge whether they buy from
- 24:02you or not.
- 24:02>> Good to know. Yeah. And if they don't
- 24:03leave you a review or anything, what is
- 24:05what does eBay do? eBay just changed the
- 24:06policy to where if someone doesn't leave
- 24:09a review within a month, you
- 24:10automatically get a positive. That's
- 24:12something they just added. What perks
- 24:14has owning a business, operating a
- 24:17successful business brought you? Uh it's
- 24:19just the freedom of knowing that I don't
- 24:21depend on money now. I don't look at
- 24:23money the same way. I look at money as a
- 24:25tool to save time and generate more
- 24:27money. I don't look at it as survival
- 24:29anymore. Where do you want to be like a
- 24:31year or two from now? I want to do 6
- 24:32million next year overall with all the
- 24:34business, just selling clothing online
- 24:37and we're setting systems up for that
- 24:39now. Wow, that's amazing.
- 24:42Can you clarify cuz I I was thinking
- 24:43it's solely eBay, but you do wholesale,
- 24:45you do sell bulk to others. Can you help
- 24:47us kind of understand the process or the
- 24:49business model, the structure?
- 24:50>> Yeah. So I got to the point where
- 24:53uh I'm getting so much inventory. That
- 24:55truck you saw there, that's 44,000
- 24:57pounds. I can buy one every day. Can I
- 24:59list all that to eBay every day? No way.
- 25:02No way, right? Right now I told you my
- 25:04struggle is that 200 a day is a little
- 25:05slow for us cuz we get so much. So I got
- 25:08to the point where I got my stuff really
- 25:09cheap in such large quantities that I
- 25:12figured I can solve the problem for
- 25:13other people and uh that
- 25:15>> Guys like you who are doing you're doing
- 25:16on a smaller scale?
- 25:17>> There's so many people that do it just
- 25:19like me across the nation.
- 25:21Uh there's a whole community of people
- 25:22that do this and I solve their sourcing
- 25:25problem. They don't go out and hunt.
- 25:27They don't have to source for three
- 25:28months.
- 25:28>> Stand in the frigid cold
- 25:31in a nice coat. Yeah, and a lot of
- 25:33people, they're paying $10 for the jeans
- 25:35that I just paid and they get it for $5
- 25:37when they buy it from me and they get it
- 25:39in massive quantities so they can just
- 25:41focus on listing, processing inventory
- 25:43and not sourcing anymore. So I solve
- 25:45that problem with a pallet. That's what
- 25:47I love about what you're doing and what
- 25:48we're doing, right? It's all about
- 25:49starting a business with zero, growing
- 25:51it, building it, scaling it and then
- 25:52saying, "Hey, where else do I go with
- 25:54this?"
- 25:54>> Yeah, exactly.
- 25:55>> It's not just eBay for you, but now
- 25:56you're outsourcing to everybody else.
- 25:58Yeah.
- 25:59>> Pretty cool. Is there anything you wish
- 26:00you'd know before you got into this
- 26:02business? Yeah, so the very first thing
- 26:04was cultivating relationships. That it
- 26:06goes very far in this business. You saw
- 26:08the flea market where that guy already
- 26:10knew who I was. When I paid, he told me,
- 26:12"Hey, I have five bags of Levi's in the
- 26:14car. Do you want to buy them right now?"
- 26:16But we're recording. I was like, "No,
- 26:18I'll see you Monday." That's a
- 26:19relationship and cultivating
- 26:21relationships takes you very far in
- 26:23business in general.
- 26:24So aside from eBay, David, are you doing
- 26:26any outside advertising to push your
- 26:29eBay store? Yeah, so one thing I do do
- 26:31is promoted listings through eBay and I
- 26:34do add a percentage on top of my fees
- 26:36and it pushes my listings way more. Last
- 26:38month alone, 90% of my sales came from
- 26:41promoted listings alone. So that is an
- 26:43extra thing that I pay for, but it pays
- 26:46dividends. It does an amazing job. Do
- 26:48you always do that or certain slow
- 26:49seasons to push sales? Like how what's
- 26:51your thought process
- 26:52>> year-round, day-to-day, every single
- 26:54day, everything's promoted like that. In
- 26:55the wintertime, like right now, you sell
- 26:58more expensive coats.
- 26:59People are in the holiday spirit buying
- 27:01presents, but in the summertime, you
- 27:03still sell a lot of stuff, you know. So
- 27:06it's good to do that year-round.
- 27:08What's been your smartest business move
- 27:09so far, you would say? When I first
- 27:11started out, I was listing 30 items in a
- 27:13day. That takes all the day to do that
- 27:15and I figured while I was listing, what
- 27:17if there was someone right next to me
- 27:18doing the same exact thing? So the first
- 27:20thing I did was hire people to help me
- 27:22list more items. Meanwhile, I was still
- 27:24working. So I just duplicated myself. A
- 27:27lot of people are hesitant to do that in
- 27:28a business like this cuz it's a smaller
- 27:30business, but I always push for getting
- 27:33help and multiplying yourself and
- 27:35delegating as quickly as possible as
- 27:37soon as the money makes sense. At first,
- 27:39you have to grind. You have to be just a
- 27:41lone wolf and then once the money makes
- 27:43sense, once you get some capital and you
- 27:44want to expand, you get more inventory,
- 27:46then it makes sense to get some help. If
- 27:48you enjoyed this episode, make sure to
- 27:50check out episode 244 with Chris Corner
- 27:52who shares his secrets on how to spot
- 27:54business opportunities that have led him
- 27:56to starting over 75 businesses. Thank
- 27:58you for watching. Take a second to like
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- 28:02time.
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