This Founder Takes Home $120K a Month — Transcript
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- 0:00Alex Hormozi, I love you.
- 0:02>> [laughter]
- 0:03>> I love you, too, man. Let's rock.
- 0:04>> Uh so, I'm I'm Abram. I
- 0:07I have an easy, natural weight loss
- 0:10program for women online. Uh we do $4.1
- 0:14million a year right now, and we'd like
- 0:17to be at $12 million a year.
- 0:19>> Okay.
- 0:20>> Uh
- 0:21what is stopping me is consistently
- 0:24filling the sales calendars with
- 0:26qualified leads,
- 0:27and if I don't solve this problem, then,
- 0:30you know, my team can't support their
- 0:31families, and not hitting my goals
- 0:33bothers me to no end. Um so, how can I
- 0:37get more qualified leads on my sales
- 0:40reps' calendars consistently?
- 0:41>> Yeah, so they can feed their kids and
- 0:43not be homeless. What are we doing here?
- 0:44Right. All right. So, uh primary way of
- 0:47getting customers right now?
- 0:49>> Uh it's uh basically 50/50 between Meta
- 0:52ads and organic.
- 0:54>> Okay. And is it IG is your
- 0:57your organic?
- 0:58>> Uh mostly uh it's Facebook and Instagram
- 1:02for the organic.
- 1:03>> it. It's Meta. All right. So, Meta
- 1:04organic and then Meta ads for
- 1:07uh
- 1:08>> Correct.
- 1:08>> Yeah, unpaid. Okay, got it. Um what's uh
- 1:12what's price point and what's CAC?
- 1:15>> My price point is $10,000 for a year
- 1:19>> Okay.
- 1:19>> or $5,000 for a downsell for a year.
- 1:22>> Got it.
- 1:23>> I'll pull up our cost to acquire a
- 1:25customer right now.
- 1:27It is
- 1:30$1,193.
- 1:33>> Okay.
- 1:33>> Cost to acquire a customer.
- 1:35>> And is that paid or blended?
- 1:38>> Blended. I don't I don't know how to
- 1:39separate them anymore ever since I've
- 1:40been doing paid and organic.
- 1:42>> Mm.
- 1:43Okay.
- 1:44>> It's like it's really hard because like
- 1:45they'll they'll go through one path, and
- 1:47then they end up out the other end, you
- 1:49know.
- 1:49>> I got you. So, 1,100 is blended?
- 1:52>> 1,100 is blended, correct.
- 1:54>> Okay, that's not bad.
- 1:55Okay. Um
- 1:57all right. And then, you said five and
- 1:5810k, what's the average ticket?
- 2:01>> The average ticket is
- 2:06is 5,087.
- 2:08>> Oh, so most people go for the five. So
- 2:10you anchor at 10 and then most people
- 2:11drop down to the five.
- 2:12>> Correct. Yeah.
- 2:13>> Okay. Got it.
- 2:15All right. 50 cell room. Okay. Got it.
- 2:18So you need to scale your your your
- 2:19demand gen side. All right. So
- 2:22>> [sighs]
- 2:24>> Dude, we lost his tough man.
- 2:26Um
- 2:27Uh,
- 2:28>> [sighs]
- 2:28>> it's tough man.
- 2:30The reason it's tough is there's no
- 2:32revenue retention in the business.
- 2:36Right? Like after you sell this thing,
- 2:37I'm guessing they don't buy something
- 2:38else, do they?
- 2:40>> Uh, yeah, we sell them into our back end
- 2:42the community for it. They typically
- 2:43stay on for two to three more years.
- 2:46>> Okay. What's the price point of that?
- 2:48>> Uh, that one is like a fourth the price.
- 2:50We We basically we took the money models
- 2:52um approach where we Yeah, exactly. So
- 2:55uh, after the first one we sell them for
- 2:57basically half the price. So like 2,500
- 3:00up front and then we they do a monthly
- 3:01recurring and then they get to keep that
- 3:03monthly recurring in for as long as they
- 3:04stay in the program.
- 3:05>> And what's the price point of the
- 3:06monthly recurring?
- 3:08>> Uh, it's anywhere from 50 to 150 dollars
- 3:11a month.
- 3:12>> it. Yeah, yeah. And so that's where the
- 3:13churn is super low cuz they pay So what
- 3:15percentage of people go into the 2,500?
- 3:18>> Uh, 70% go into the 2,500. Yeah, but
- 3:22that
- 3:23>> dude.
- 3:24>> Yeah, and they're actually thanking us
- 3:26on the sales calls now because they're
- 3:27like, "Oh my gosh, I cannot believe
- 3:29you're letting me do it." Cuz we
- 3:30increased the price for our program by a
- 3:31thousand dollars every six months. We're
- 3:33very public with it. So everyone that's
- 3:35in the program already, they're like,
- 3:36you know, we have people that joined for
- 3:38three thousand dollars before and now
- 3:40they're like, I get to pay, you know,
- 3:42>> Yeah, 100 bucks monthly.
- 3:43>> 1,500 plus, you know, 100 dollars a
- 3:45month and they're like, "Oh my gosh,
- 3:46this is the best thing ever."
- 3:47>> Dude, I love it. I almost wrote a whole
- 3:48chapter on it. I love it. Uh
- 3:50>> [laughter]
- 3:51>> Okay, cool. So we have to increase
- 3:52demand. I mean, if that if these numbers
- 3:55are true, which I'm assuming they are,
- 3:56right? Um if you had a 3-month a 3-year
- 4:00stick on 100 bucks a month,
- 4:02uh you've got 10k on the back, right?
- 4:05Plus the 2500, you got 12.5, plus the
- 4:0857, right? So, you're you're at almost,
- 4:11you know, 18,000 in LTV, right? And a
- 4:13lot of that's margin.
- 4:14>> Right.
- 4:15>> Yeah. Yeah, a lot of huge part of it is
- 4:17margin, yeah.
- 4:18>> What's margin right now?
- 4:20On four.
- 4:22>> On
- 4:24Oh, like what do what do we take home?
- 4:26>> Yeah, what's your net?
- 4:28>> Uh my net for uh crap, I'd have to pull
- 4:30up the other ones, but um it anywhere
- 4:33about 120,000 a month I take home for
- 4:37my what I take home.
- 4:38>> Oh, a month. Okay, got it. I was like,
- 4:40what the hell? Okay, got it. So, you're
- 4:41doing uh 1.4 on four.
- 4:45>> Yeah. So, that's like the net net. Like
- 4:47if we're just talking about the uh
- 4:49net operating costs or things like that,
- 4:51or you just mean like net that I take
- 4:52home.
- 4:53>> So, you got So, yeah. So, you're at
- 4:55you're at like 30-ish percent net
- 4:57margins, somewhere in there.
- 4:58>> Yeah.
- 4:58>> Okay, got it.
- 5:01>> [sighs]
- 5:01>> Okay.
- 5:03So, what happens when you scale your
- 5:05paid?
- 5:06>> So, ever since Andromeda hit, it's been
- 5:09way easier to have profitable ads. Like
- 5:12it's so crazy because as soon as you put
- 5:14something up, you spend like $30 and we
- 5:16get a 5k painful like the next day.
- 5:18Yeah. And then
- 5:20a week later, it is just hemorrhaging
- 5:23money. Like and it or the or the lead
- 5:24quality just goes to [ __ ] like right
- 5:26away and we have to shut it off. So,
- 5:29um I'm basically just cranking through a
- 5:31ton of
- 5:33like things for
- 5:35to feed the Andromeda engine.
- 5:37And that works to a point, but I can
- 5:39never seem to scale it up to wherever I
- 5:41want to get. I've never found a I've not
- 5:42found a true winner in like
- 5:45I feel like a year now. They've all just
- 5:47been really short cycles.
- 5:49>> the game has changed.
- 5:51And so what you need to build, so this
- 5:52will be really this will be really good
- 5:53for a lot of people, not just you.
- 5:56So you obviously have like when you have
- 5:57weight loss in a business like yours,
- 5:59it's all demand, right? And so
- 6:01um rather than me say, "Hey, let's make
- 6:03more better content." I think that that
- 6:05one seems obvious. Um I think what you
- 6:08need to build is kind of what I was
- 6:09talking about from the tech side, but
- 6:11you need to build this you need to build
- 6:13a self-licking ice cream cone within the
- 6:14business that can basically make you an
- 6:16affiliate army. So for example, like we
- 6:19put out gosh, I'd say collectively
- 6:21probably 500 pieces of creative a day.
- 6:25And so you just aren't putting nearly
- 6:26enough creative out, which means like if
- 6:28that is the if that is the true
- 6:30limitation of the business, which it is
- 6:31right now. Like right now, the thing
- 6:32that's limiting your business is your
- 6:33creative. You need more creative.
- 6:36And so that means we need to have a
- 6:37process or a system that creates
- 6:38creative. And so my
- 6:41my curiosity
- 6:43would be
- 6:44is there a way that we can create a
- 6:47cycle for your customers to make
- 6:51reels and shorts about your stuff and
- 6:55basically
- 6:56keep their instead of paying $100 a
- 6:58month
- 6:59it's like you can pay $100 a month or
- 7:01you can make me two pieces of content a
- 7:03week or five pieces of content a week.
- 7:06>> What does that content look like?
- 7:09>> Them
- 7:11you would look at all the
- 7:13strongest hooks in weight loss. Tell
- 7:16them what those hooks are. Let them use
- 7:18those hooks and also make their own
- 7:19because that's how you discover new
- 7:20ones.
- 7:22So what you need to do, so are you
- 7:23familiar with TikTok Shop?
- 7:25>> Yeah.
- 7:25>> Okay.
- 7:27You want to create your own TikTok Shop
- 7:30affiliate system
- 7:31fundamentally for people to create
- 7:34creative to promote your thing.
- 7:37Like this is what will take you from
- 7:38four to not 12. Like this will take you
- 7:40to 50.
- 7:42Like this is the highest point of
- 7:43leverage in the business for you.
- 7:46And so answering the question like how
- 7:47can I get 100 people to make me five
- 7:49pieces of content a week?
- 7:51So you get 500 pieces of creative. And
- 7:54with Andromeda
- 7:56the algorithm will read number one what
- 7:58they're saying,
- 7:59number two what they look like in the
- 8:01room. And so it will match
- 8:03because all Andromeda did which is why
- 8:05the ROI is so high is they just took the
- 8:07the idea of national ad campaigns is
- 8:09like gone.
- 8:10It's all sub-segments because they want
- 8:12the
- 8:14they want the process rather they want
- 8:16the experience for a consumer to be feel
- 8:20like the algorithm is so catered to
- 8:21them.
- 8:22Which means that advertisers can no
- 8:23longer just be like
- 8:25"Hey, buy my shit." Right? It's like you
- 8:27have to be like, "Oh, you're just like
- 8:28me who look like you and talk like me
- 8:30and you're making this recommendation."
- 8:31Now I'm more likely. So marketers love
- 8:33it and hate it because it's
- 8:35your experience is 100% what Andromeda
- 8:37does. You get better ROAS and it burns
- 8:39out in two days.
- 8:40And so I just happen to come like the
- 8:43biggest gift I ever got was I started as
- 8:44a local business owner.
- 8:45And so I had the same 100,000 people I
- 8:48could advertise to. So I had to make
- 8:50[ __ ] loads of creative before it was
- 8:52cool. So that's why I I I I've I've
- 8:54flexed this muscle a lot. And so
- 8:56it it but your needs at your spend is
- 8:59beyond
- 9:01like you're you're going to need
- 9:04I'll make your target 500 pieces a week.
- 9:08>> 500 pieces a week from the my clients
- 9:10just talking about whatever these hooks
- 9:12are. So if
- 9:13>> And you can do 50/50 static and
- 9:16um
- 9:17uh static and video.
- 9:19>> Yeah, that's going to be my question
- 9:20because the when I have
- 9:23Andromeda, I have that's exactly what my
- 9:25split is right now. It's like 50/50 text
- 9:27and images and video. But
- 9:31the messaging has to be 100% unique
- 9:34between every single creative for it to
- 9:35crank like that. And I I mean like
- 9:37literally nothing is the same. Like the
- 9:40Like the entire thing is All of them are
- 9:42like 100% different. That's why they
- 9:43crank so much. But So, if I have my
- 9:45clients doing this and they're putting
- 9:47out this five-piece of content, am I
- 9:48telling them, "Hey, these are all the
- 9:50best hooks. Everyone record these best
- 9:51five hooks with my brand messaging?"
- 9:54>> be fine. Yeah, they get to like they can
- 9:56Like if you have different people saying
- 9:57the same thing, that's totally fine.
- 10:00>> Okay, that would still that would still
- 10:01be okay. What about Do I need to worry
- 10:03about like brand messaging inside of
- 10:04like what they're saying or is it kind
- 10:06of like
- 10:07>> you can watch them.
- 10:08>> Oh, no, I mean like like I want to sell
- 10:10easy weight loss for women. Do I have to
- 10:12make sure they say that specific thing?
- 10:14You know, like or do I have to say like,
- 10:16"Hey, I lowered my cortisol."
- 10:18>> Do you know what I mean? If you can get
- 10:18that past the ad scraper, if you get
- 10:20easy weight loss for women working,
- 10:23amazing. A lot of I mean, you're skating
- 10:25on thin ice on that one.
- 10:27>> Yeah. So,
- 10:28>> Easy, fast weight loss.
- 10:30>> [laughter]
- 10:31>> Yeah.
- 10:32>> The only thing else you need is free and
- 10:34you'll be and you hit you'll hit the
- 10:36Yeah.
- 10:37>> Free, guaranteed.
- 10:38>> Yeah. Fast, easy, free weight loss.
- 10:41Uh that's what you need to do. You need
- 10:42to build out the machine. Um and do you
- 10:45already have um
- 10:46AI automation set up so that you can get
- 10:48100 or 200 uh statics a week just
- 10:50cranking to you uh without you doing
- 10:51anything?
- 10:53>> Uh no, I write out all the copy um
- 10:56every day.
- 10:57>> No, dude. No, dude.
- 10:59>> Yeah. That's And cuz I I've tried Yeah,
- 11:01cuz I've done the
- 11:02uh the AI ones I've done. But I guess
- 11:05it's all testing cuz I don't know. Like
- 11:06some of the ads I think suck ass and all
- 11:08of a sudden I put them out and they
- 11:10rock. So, like I don't know what's going
- 11:12to be good. So, if I'm putting out
- 11:14different like text and imaging things,
- 11:16do you have like best practices that you
- 11:18guys have seen work right now where if
- 11:19you guys are Are you doing like five
- 11:21different um
- 11:23image or one image and like five
- 11:24different copies and then you're doing
- 11:27advantage creative for anything specific
- 11:29that you guys are seeing?
- 11:30>> Dude, we're just cranking so much
- 11:31variety and then whenever we do have
- 11:32winners, we add it to the winner the
- 11:34winner sheet, and then that feeds the
- 11:36AI.
- 11:39>> Gotcha. Oh my gosh, why am I not doing
- 11:42that? All right, I've been I took my
- 11:43winning emails. You know I should Why am
- 11:45I not taking my winning ads?
- 11:47Like All right, so
- 11:49makes a lot of sense. Good talk.
- 11:51Awesome. All right.
- 11:52>> [laughter]
- 11:54>> Appreciate you, man.
- 11:54>> I will definitely do this, yeah. Thank
- 11:56you so much.
- 11:56>> Yeah, you bet, dude. Rock and roll.
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