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- 0:00What if you could change your life in
- 0:01just 6 months? And what if all it took
- 0:04was a simple idea and the willingness to
- 0:07put in the work? Well, I want you to
- 0:09meet Lino.
- 0:10>> I launched my first app AbMax about 5
- 0:13months ago, and now we're on pace to hit
- 0:1560K this month. And I didn't even know
- 0:17how to write code. I didn't even know
- 0:19how to prompt.
- 0:19>> 6 months ago, he had never built an app
- 0:21before in his life. And in fact, he'd
- 0:24never even written a single line of
- 0:26code. But, he just started learning from
- 0:29people in the app space, shipped his
- 0:31first app, and today that app that he
- 0:33built is about to hit $60,000 a month.
- 0:36[music]
- 0:36>> Our product is super niche, which is why
- 0:39I think we're performing extremely,
- 0:41extremely well.
- 0:42>> So, I asked Lino to come on to the
- 0:44channel and break down exactly what he
- 0:45built and how he did this. In this
- 0:47episode, we're going to dive into his
- 0:49dead simple app that now makes $60,000 a
- 0:51month, how he went from zero users and
- 0:54no distribution to thousands of
- 0:56downloads, and his very simple advice
- 0:59for how to build a successful app in
- 1:002026. Guys, this one you are not going
- 1:03to want to miss it. Let's dive in. This
- 1:06is Starter Story.
- 1:08All right, Lino. Welcome to the channel.
- 1:10I'm pumped to have you on here. Let's
- 1:12get into it. Tell me about who you are,
- 1:14what you built, and what's your story.
- 1:15>> So, I'm Lino Leiden. I launched my first
- 1:18app AbMax about 5 months ago, and now
- 1:20we're on pace to hit 60K this month.
- 1:22Today, I'm excited to share more about
- 1:24the process of how I was able to scale
- 1:26to these kind of numbers in such a short
- 1:28amount of time with literally zero
- 1:30coding experience and absolutely not
- 1:32technical at all.
- 1:33>> Let's get into the business and the app
- 1:36itself. So, just explain what AbMax is
- 1:39in a few sentences and then pull up your
- 1:41RevenueCat dashboards to show off the
- 1:43revenue and show us that this thing is
- 1:44legit.
- 1:45>> So, AbMax is basically an app to help
- 1:47people achieve their best abs. And
- 1:49basically, what we do is we have users
- 1:51fill out some basic info about their
- 1:52fitness journey, and we tailor them a
- 1:54custom abs plan specifically for each
- 1:57user, alongside pre-made training
- 1:59programs and workout program
- 2:01specifically targeting their abs. Okay,
- 2:03yeah, so our monthly revenue is just
- 2:05about $55,000 this month, and we are
- 2:07currently have 16,000 downloads in the
- 2:10past 28 days, and we have just over
- 2:123,000 active paying customers.
- 2:14>> Cool, so how do you come up with this
- 2:16app idea?
- 2:17>> Yeah, so actually I was back in back in
- 2:19February, and I went to the gym with all
- 2:21my friends. Everyone kept comparing
- 2:23about who has better abs. So like, oh, I
- 2:25have better abs than you. I have better
- 2:26abs than you. And I just kept that kept
- 2:28thinking like everyone cares about their
- 2:30abs. And then I started to do a little
- 2:32research, and then I found out that the
- 2:34if someone wanted to get abs in 2026,
- 2:37there was absolutely no place for them
- 2:39to go. So I thought of a good solution
- 2:41where why don't I make an app that helps
- 2:43people achieve abs and help them get
- 2:45visible abs. Yeah, and that's basically
- 2:47how I came up with AbMax.
- 2:49>> All right, what I love about Lena's
- 2:50story is that he changed his life in
- 2:52just 6 months. He found a really smart
- 2:54category, built his simple app, and now
- 2:56today that app makes $60,000 a month.
- 2:58And the way he found his app idea was
- 3:00really simple. He looked at stuff that
- 3:01was already working, and kind of remixed
- 3:03it for 2026. And that's exactly why we
- 3:05put together this free database of iOS
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- 3:25let's get back to Leno.
- 3:26>> 100%.
- 3:28This is what I love about what you
- 3:29built. And I remember 20, 10, 20 years
- 3:32ago when I was a kid just like watching
- 3:34TV, they would have these ads for like
- 3:375-minute abs. And you'd buy some sort of
- 3:39device or some sort of workout thing.
- 3:42Back then it was like Bowflex or
- 3:43something like that, but they would
- 3:44market it specifically for if you want
- 3:46abs for the summer. You're essentially
- 3:48doing this in, you you a modern social
- 3:51media way. So I think that's amazing.
- 3:54That's actually a super super smart
- 3:56insight. If you went and just built the
- 3:58total workout tracker, yes, there are
- 4:00successful versions of those, but it's
- 4:02way better to niche down. The next thing
- 4:03I want to ask you about is how you built
- 4:05this cuz we were chatting earlier.
- 4:07You're 18 years old. You have no
- 4:09technical background. You told me you
- 4:10don't know anything about how to build
- 4:12apps. For the people who are that are
- 4:13watching this on here, I want to hear in
- 4:15just the 5-6 months that this app has
- 4:17grown [music] and become successful, how
- 4:19did you actually build this? What was
- 4:20the actual build journey? How did you
- 4:22originally build it? What tools did you
- 4:24use? And how did you build this thing?
- 4:25>> Yeah, so I originally built this in
- 4:27Lovable back in February. And this is
- 4:29when I didn't even know anything about
- 4:31apps. I didn't even know what RevenueCat
- 4:33was. I didn't even know what an
- 4:34onboarding was. And I spent 2 months
- 4:36manually prompting this old project in
- 4:39Lovable. After 2 months, I was ready to
- 4:42launch. And just before launch, I was
- 4:44like, there's absolutely no way I can
- 4:46release this. This is This is terrible.
- 4:48So, I decided to rebuild the entire
- 4:50thing back in Vork. And this is when I
- 4:53started to get onto X and starting to
- 4:55follow all these other successful app
- 4:57founders. And I picked up a lot of great
- 4:59advice about not only how to vibe code,
- 5:01but also some like onboarding tactics,
- 5:03how to market, all like the insider
- 5:06advice you need that is working for
- 5:08their apps. I put that advice and put it
- 5:10towards my app. And I I was able to
- 5:12build AppMax V2 basically in Vork in 1
- 5:16month. And I was ready to ship. And then
- 5:18after the first month, we did just over
- 5:20$7,000 in revenue.
- 5:22>> Could you walk through like what your
- 5:23actual tech stack looks like right now?
- 5:25Like if you had to start over, what's
- 5:27the tech that you're using? What tools?
- 5:29>> I keep it super simple. I have Supabase
- 5:31for authentication. I use VorkMax for
- 5:34the development. I use Sensor Tower
- 5:36basically for competitor and idea
- 5:37research. I use sign.com for creator
- 5:40contracts and agreements. And I use
- 5:42Posthog for internal analytics.
- 5:44>> Okay, so you mentioned something earlier
- 5:46you use sign.com for creator contracts.
- 5:49I'm guessing that may be how you've
- 5:51grown this thing cuz, you know, anybody
- 5:53can build an ad maxing app, but is it
- 5:56going to get any downloads if you don't
- 5:57do any marketing or advertising?
- 5:58Probably not. So, let's talk about this.
- 6:00First, I want to hear from you, when you
- 6:02just created the app, how did you go
- 6:03from zero to the first 10K per month?
- 6:06What was the overall marketing strategy
- 6:08and what really like worked for your
- 6:09app?
- 6:10>> I started running UGC with these big
- 6:12influencers in the fitness niche, which
- 6:14is probably one of the biggest mistakes
- 6:16I've ever made. We were blindly going
- 6:18into this. We didn't even have a winning
- 6:19format or a winning content strategy to
- 6:22offer these influencers before spending
- 6:24thousands of dollars for each video. So,
- 6:26that's probably the biggest mistake. And
- 6:28so, alongside that, we were also running
- 6:30faces TikTok slideshows, which I was
- 6:32manually posting on my own. The big UGC
- 6:34deals alongside these TikTok slideshows
- 6:36helped us get up to 3 to 4K in revenue,
- 6:39but the problem was our margins were
- 6:41terrible. We were running at like 5 to
- 6:4310%, which is why I came up with the
- 6:45idea and we partnered up with a big
- 6:47fitness influencer on social media in
- 6:49return for some equity, which helped us
- 6:51get the ground running off the start,
- 6:53which I would recommend to any
- 6:54inexperienced founders who are looking
- 6:56to get the ground running off launch.
- 6:57[music]
- 6:58>> I think that's actually really smart.
- 6:59Instead of going to all these little
- 7:02creators and making these small deals
- 7:04and maybe one of them works, but most of
- 7:06them don't. You just said screw that,
- 7:07instead I'm just going to find an equity
- 7:09partner who has some skin in the game
- 7:11and then all the ads are essentially
- 7:13free and they have like more incentive
- 7:15to actually make this thing work. So,
- 7:17that's pretty much the secret to how you
- 7:19got to 10K. Go find someone with
- 7:21distribution who is good at social media
- 7:23content. Then, how do you take it from
- 7:2510K a month to 60K a month? Were you
- 7:27just doubling down on that or like what
- 7:29was working?
- 7:30>> Yeah, so basically, we cut out every
- 7:32single UGC deal, every influencer deal,
- 7:35and we started to double down on what
- 7:36was working for us. And we found out
- 7:38that our meta ads were running at like a
- 7:40two two to 2.5x ROAS, and they were
- 7:43extremely profitable. So, we just
- 7:45started doubling down on Meta Ads, and
- 7:47we only stuck with our one big creator
- 7:50that we gave equity to, and he would
- 7:51just create content for us, and we would
- 7:53just run paid ads behind it strictly
- 7:55through Meta. As well, during that
- 7:56process, we decided to take all of our
- 7:58creatives from Meta and move them over
- 8:00to TikTok ads alongside that, and for
- 8:03some reason they performed five to six x
- 8:06better. The same exact creatives were
- 8:08able to we were able to get four to five
- 8:10x ROAS on the same creatives. Mainly
- 8:12because on TikTok, it targets a younger
- 8:14audience, and Meta's more of an older
- 8:16audience. So, our target user is
- 8:18anywhere from 15 to 30 years old, and
- 8:20with TikTok, we were able to resonate
- 8:22and target with that specific user
- 8:24extremely well.
- 8:25>> But I what I want to ask you is, you
- 8:27know, you you've done this so fast in
- 8:29the past 6-7 months, you went from zero
- 8:31to six almost 60k per month, and
- 8:33obviously growing more. There's lots of
- 8:34people who watch this channel who, you
- 8:36know, want to change their lives as fast
- 8:38as you did. If you were starting over,
- 8:40trying to find an idea, build it, what
- 8:42steps would you take to to make that
- 8:44happen all over again?
- 8:45>> Yeah, so first thing, hands down, is to
- 8:47get inside of the X app community and
- 8:49start following these top founders
- 8:51there. All these founders give out so
- 8:52much sauce and advice there for
- 8:54literally free. Then, I would go on to
- 8:56Sensor Tower and start looking up some
- 8:58ideas you have for apps and start trying
- 9:00to find the hot niche right now. The way
- 9:02to find this is by looking up potential
- 9:04app ideas in there, and if there are a
- 9:06ton of apps in that niche consistently
- 9:08doing over 10k a month, then that's a
- 9:10niche you want to build in. Yeah, so
- 9:11step two is post before building. Once
- 9:14you have your app idea, if you want to
- 9:15validate it even more before you even
- 9:17start building it, I would make a
- 9:18faceless TikTok page and start promoting
- 9:21your app through organic TikTok
- 9:22slideshows and start posting three to
- 9:24four times a day. However, since your
- 9:26app is not built, instead of giving them
- 9:27a CTA on a specific slide, I would
- 9:30replace the CTA with comment app, and I
- 9:33will send it to you. Like, for example,
- 9:34if If building a calorie tracking app,
- 9:36the first slide would have to be five
- 9:38ways to improve your life, let's just
- 9:40say. Slide one, walk 10,000 steps a day.
- 9:43Slide two, work out seven times a week.
- 9:45Slide three, eat extremely clean. Slide
- 9:48four, use this app blank to help you
- 9:51blah blah blah. Comment app and I'll
- 9:53send you it. And if you're posting three
- 9:55or four three or four of these a day,
- 9:56and after seven days you start seeing a
- 9:58bunch of comments, people commenting
- 10:00app, that means there's serious demand
- 10:01for this product and you're now you're
- 10:03able to spend the time and build the
- 10:04product and go all in because the idea
- 10:06is 100% validated. Step three, ship in
- 10:09seven days. I would build out the
- 10:10product in Roark or whatever tool you
- 10:13prefer, and I would try to ship in seven
- 10:15days or less. The biggest mistake I see
- 10:17is founders overly obsessing over the
- 10:19product and spending two to three months
- 10:22to launch, which I personally
- 10:23experienced myself. You can always
- 10:25improve the product later after launch.
- 10:27Just try to get it out there and start
- 10:29optimizing for your metrics and start
- 10:31marketing and start bringing in revenue
- 10:33before you start adding that extra
- 10:35leader board feature or the extra sound
- 10:38app. Yeah, so step four, I would look
- 10:40for micro influencers. Now, once you're
- 10:42in the app store, now what I would do is
- 10:44look up keywords in your niche on
- 10:46Instagram and TikTok and try to find
- 10:48smaller creators who have 500 to 1,000
- 10:50followers who post consistently. I would
- 10:53reach out to them and pay them like $100
- 10:55for 10 videos and have them test out a
- 10:57bunch of different hooks, formats, and
- 10:59CTAs for my app. The goal would be for
- 11:01this is just to find your winning
- 11:03content style before putting any serious
- 11:05money behind it. Step five would be
- 11:07scaled marketing. Now, once you found
- 11:09out which style performs the best, I
- 11:11would start running a UGC campaign
- 11:13either through SideShift Tribe, or you
- 11:15can even manually source creators and
- 11:17manage them separately, which I would
- 11:18highly recommend. For UGC, I would
- 11:20highly recommend hiring a VA on Fiverr,
- 11:23which is extremely inexpensive, and have
- 11:25him cold DM hundreds of creators in your
- 11:27niche who fit your criteria. And for me,
- 11:29my criteria was anywhere from 5 to
- 11:3250,000 followers, they post
- 11:33consistently, they show their face, and
- 11:36they have an active comment section.
- 11:37Those are all like the checklists. Now,
- 11:39once you're sitting at around 10 to 15
- 11:41creators posting consistently, and you
- 11:43have a bunch of creatives, now you can
- 11:45start running paid ads behind those
- 11:47creatives. So, once your UGC and paid
- 11:49ads are stable and profitable, I would
- 11:50go back and completely revamp the
- 11:52product and try to make it correct where
- 11:54you can hire a developer or a product
- 11:57engineer or something along those lines.
- 11:59Now, you can obsess over the product
- 12:00once your marketing is stable and you're
- 12:02at 5 to 10k per month.
- 12:05>> Okay, cool. Lino, thanks for sharing
- 12:06that playbook. What I'm curious to see
- 12:08is the actual app that you built. I'd
- 12:11love to see the app, Max app, how it
- 12:13works, what it does, how fancy it is.
- 12:16Would you be able to show me the app
- 12:17that made over $50,000 a month?
- 12:20>> Yeah, so if you go over here, you're
- 12:22actually able to scan your abs and get a
- 12:24whole breakdown of like your lower ab
- 12:26score, your body fat percentage, and
- 12:28find out like exactly what's holding
- 12:30back your abs, whether it's body fat
- 12:31percentage, whether it's a muscle, your
- 12:33lack of muscle. And then from here, we
- 12:35have a bunch of pre-made workout plans
- 12:38and training programs you can follow. Me
- 12:40personally, I've been following the
- 12:41summer ab shredder, which is like a
- 12:4330-day plan that you can follow to help
- 12:45you get shredded for the summer. Yeah,
- 12:47so that's pretty much Ab Max, super
- 12:48simple. And I was actually the first one
- 12:50to come up with this idea, believe it or
- 12:52not, and there's zero competitors in
- 12:54this niche, which is kind of crazy.
- 12:57>> You mentioned that, you know, you were
- 12:58the first to come up with this app idea.
- 13:01Here's the thing, anybody can build an
- 13:03Ab Max app, right? Building it is not
- 13:05the hard part. Hopefully, if you're
- 13:06watching this video right now, you're on
- 13:08YouTube watching this, and you've made
- 13:10it this far, and you understand that the
- 13:11secret sauce has nothing really to do
- 13:13with how you built it. It's it's the
- 13:14marketing strategy, it's the
- 13:15distribution, it's everything that you
- 13:17figured out at such a young age. So, my
- 13:19last question for you, if you could give
- 13:21some advice to the people watching this
- 13:23right now trying to figure out how to
- 13:25not only just build apps, but actually
- 13:27build an app that is crushing it and
- 13:29making a lot of money like yours. What
- 13:30would that advice be?
- 13:31>> This kind of goes for any business. It's
- 13:34simply just do not give up and stop
- 13:37comparing yourself to all these people
- 13:39you see on social media who are doing
- 13:40six figures, seven figures. Don't
- 13:42compare your level two or your level
- 13:44three to someone else's level and just
- 13:46focus on your path and what's ahead and
- 13:49what's the next step for you. You're
- 13:50going to go through some tough times
- 13:52where you literally think your life is
- 13:54over. Like I experienced it. I thought
- 13:55my life was over. Looking back on it
- 13:57now, it was no big deal. But you just
- 13:59have to keep going and as long as you
- 14:01never give up and you show up every day
- 14:03and you continue getting better, it's
- 14:04physically impossible for you to lose.
- 14:06Like it's physically impossible for you
- 14:08to lose as long as you simply just never
- 14:10give up and get better every day and
- 14:12keep on showing up.
- 14:13>> Well, that's great advice, Lino. You're
- 14:15crushing it. You're not even in college
- 14:19or you decided not to go to
- 14:20>> I dropped out after my first semester of
- 14:22freshman year, actually. So
- 14:23>> Yeah, you you realized that you can do
- 14:25this, watch a YouTube video, go on X,
- 14:28meet with founders, and you can build
- 14:29stuff that changes your life in six
- 14:31months, which is what you did. Hopefully
- 14:33people watching this are still watching
- 14:34this by now to show that this is
- 14:35possible. Lino, what you built is
- 14:37awesome. Thanks for coming on. Thanks
- 14:38for sharing everything so openly, even
- 14:40though you're probably have a few
- 14:41copycats. Thanks for coming on.
- 14:43>> Thank you for having me.
- 14:45>> All right, Gus, producer and co-host of
- 14:47Starter Story. What do you think about
- 14:48Lino and the app Max app?
- 14:51>> I hope people can really start to
- 14:53understand through all of our interviews
- 14:54like there's so many app ideas out there
- 14:56that like are making money. It's a It's
- 14:58It's so crazy to me. It's just like an
- 14:59app Max idea seems just so like almost
- 15:03unbelievable and yet he's still very
- 15:05successful. And he's so young. And so
- 15:06those are some of the things I'm
- 15:07thinking about is like, man, you can
- 15:08really make money with anything.
- 15:10>> No, I agree. It's uh It's not that
- 15:12complicated, you know? Like um there's
- 15:14not some crazy marketing strategy to
- 15:17take away from this. It's just like take
- 15:19action, move forward. If someone like
- 15:21Lino, who's 18, 19 years old didn't go
- 15:23to college, not technical. If he can do
- 15:25it going online and learning, watching
- 15:27videos like Starter Story and going on X
- 15:29and connecting with founders and
- 15:31building an app that maxes your abs out,
- 15:34you know, there's nothing there's
- 15:35nothing complicated here other than this
- 15:37guy just isn't scared to take action and
- 15:39put himself out there and and fail.
- 15:41>> Yeah, that's what he said to me on the
- 15:42phone when I when I talked to him and I
- 15:44told asked him a little bit more about
- 15:45his background. He was just like, "Yeah,
- 15:46I saw I thought I thought this was
- 15:48cool." Like I thought I saw these people
- 15:50sharing these apps on X and I thought,
- 15:51"Man, this is really cool. I want to do
- 15:52that, too." And he just kind of went for
- 15:53it and I thought that was I was really
- 15:55impressed with that.
- 15:56>> The other thing that I think is kind of
- 15:57cool about his app is that
- 15:59it is like a recreation of a marketing
- 16:03concept that's is old as time, which is
- 16:05to get overnight abs, right? Like
- 16:07everyone wants abs, everyone wants abs
- 16:09for the summer. There's going to be a
- 16:10summer every year and everyone wants to
- 16:11go look good at the beach and whether
- 16:13it's a
- 16:14you know, a VHS that you buy online or
- 16:17an app that solves that problem, that
- 16:18problem will never go out of style. So,
- 16:20I think that's cool. There's tons of
- 16:22more ideas like this. As I mentioned
- 16:24earlier, we have our iOS app ideas
- 16:26database, which you can click through
- 16:28right now if you go click that link in
- 16:29the description and you can see a bunch
- 16:31of iOS app ideas that are making money
- 16:33or could potentially make a bunch of
- 16:35money if you go and execute just like
- 16:37Lino did. So, I'll put that in the
- 16:38description. Thank you guys for
- 16:39watching. We'll see you in the next one.
- 16:41Peace.
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