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They Are Review Bombing This Game Over The Chinese Translation — Transcript

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  1. 0:00All right, ladies and gentlemen, so in
  2. 0:01today's video, we're going to be talking
  3. 0:02about Hollow Knight Silk Song again.
  4. 0:04Now, we spoke about the player base not
  5. 0:07being too too happy with the difficulty
  6. 0:08of the game with some people saying to
  7. 0:10get good and other people saying to the
  8. 0:13you know, they they're not just it's not
  9. 0:15just a get good situation that they have
  10. 0:17to you know, Nerf the game make it
  11. 0:19easier because it's broken right now,
  12. 0:20whatever. Apparently, there's another
  13. 0:22situation that is happening with Hollow
  14. 0:23Knight Silk Song and this one has to do
  15. 0:25with Chinese players. Now, apparently
  16. 0:28the game is getting review bombed in
  17. 0:30China right now and we're going to take
  18. 0:32a look at that in a second. But the game
  19. 0:33is getting review bombed because of
  20. 0:35apparently a poor translation for the
  21. 0:38game. The translation is apparently so
  22. 0:40bad for China that is caused Chinese
  23. 0:43language fans to not exactly be very
  24. 0:45happy about it. Now, a lot of people
  25. 0:47probably are not even going to know
  26. 0:49about this unless they either watch this
  27. 0:51video or they switch their language
  28. 0:53preference to Chinese in steam because
  29. 0:55if you guys remember steam change their
  30. 0:57rules recently that reviews outside of
  31. 1:00your language is not going to show in
  32. 1:02reviews that you can personally see when
  33. 1:05you're looking at a game on you know, on
  34. 1:07steam. So if I go to look at Hollow
  35. 1:09Knight Silk Song right now, I'm only
  36. 1:11going to see English speaking reviews
  37. 1:13that Chinese reviews are not going to
  38. 1:15affect the score that I see for the
  39. 1:18game. So they made that change and now I
  40. 1:20can see why they made that change
  41. 1:22because of situations like this. But in
  42. 1:24any case, Hollow Knight Silk Song is
  43. 1:26soaring on steam. We already know that
  44. 1:2824 hours after release the game is doing
  45. 1:30gangbusters numbers over 560,000
  46. 1:33players playing as of 12 hours ago. The
  47. 1:36game has done astronomical numbers. But
  48. 1:39to our Chinese speaking fans, apparently
  49. 1:40they're not liking it. In China, the
  50. 1:42long-awaited Metroidvania has been said
  51. 1:44been getting review bombed by the
  52. 1:46Chinese language users on steam who feel
  53. 1:49that the translation this time around is
  54. 1:51much worse than that in the first Hollow
  55. 1:54Knight. The head of marketing for the
  56. 1:56game has already promised to put things
  57. 1:57right. So this is why and again, this is
  58. 2:00not the fault of the Chinese players
  59. 2:01necessarily. Sure, maybe they're going a
  60. 2:03little bit extreme here. But
  61. 2:05unfortunately, you know, it seems like
  62. 2:07they're right. You know, Team Cherry has
  63. 2:08openly admitted that there is a major
  64. 2:10problem with the translation for Hollow
  65. 2:12Knight Silk Song for the Chinese players
  66. 2:14and they're going to fix it. So here's
  67. 2:15what they said.
  68. 2:17To our Chinese speaking fans, we
  69. 2:19appreciate you letting us know about
  70. 2:21quality issues with the current
  71. 2:22simplified Chinese translation of Hollow
  72. 2:24Knight Silk Song. Matthew Griffin, in
  73. 2:27charge of publishing for the game
  74. 2:28brought on next, will be working to
  75. 2:29improve the translation over the coming
  76. 2:31weeks. Thanks for your feedback and
  77. 2:33support. Despite the good news, his post
  78. 2:35has been inundated with comments and
  79. 2:37quote tweets. Many slamming the fact
  80. 2:39that the game launched without better
  81. 2:40quality checks for the Chinese
  82. 2:42localization. Now, to my knowledge,
  83. 2:44there is only three people that are
  84. 2:46working on this game. To my knowledge, I
  85. 2:48don't know if they outsource any kind of
  86. 2:50work to anyone else. But the simple fact
  87. 2:53is this is a very small team, extremely
  88. 2:56small team and it's not to excuse them
  89. 2:58for providing a poor translation.
  90. 3:00But unfortunately, it seems like they're
  91. 3:02just getting hit for this. According to
  92. 3:03localization expert Lorc Van Cooten, one
  93. 3:06of the main issues in the Silk Song's
  94. 3:09evocative but concise writing has been
  95. 3:11turned into a high school drama club's
  96. 3:14Elizabethan improv night in the Chinese
  97. 3:16versions. He cites the following as an
  98. 3:19example of how the prose read. With nary
  99. 3:22a spirit nor thoughts shall thou
  100. 3:24persist bereft of mortal will, unbent,
  101. 3:27unswayed, with no lament nor tearful
  102. 3:30cry, only sorrow's dirge to herald thine
  103. 3:33internal woe. Born of gods and of the
  104. 3:36fathomless abyss, grasping heaven's
  105. 3:38firmament in thine unworthy palm,
  106. 3:40shackled to the endless dream, tormented
  107. 3:42by pestilence and shadow, thy heart
  108. 3:45besieged by fantasmal demons, thou art
  109. 3:47the challenge of death
  110. 3:49I'm sorry, thou art the chalice of
  111. 3:50destiny. Verily, thou art the primordial
  112. 3:53knight of hollowness. Van Cooten goes on
  113. 3:56to point out that one of the two of Silk
  114. 3:58Song's Chinese translators listed as
  115. 4:01Hertz Liu in the credits had a habit of
  116. 4:03gloating about their involvement in the
  117. 4:06game and leaking small details about the
  118. 4:08development process over the summer
  119. 4:10prior to its release this week. The
  120. 4:12first Hollow Knight on the other hand
  121. 4:14had six Chinese translators including
  122. 4:17one who also worked on Stardew Valley.
  123. 4:20Now, again, so they went from two I'm
  124. 4:22sorry, they went from six translators to
  125. 4:25two. So needless to say, I can see why
  126. 4:28they probably have a lack of quality
  127. 4:31control when it comes to the translation
  128. 4:34for the Chinese version. I don't know
  129. 4:36why they went from six to two. I don't
  130. 4:37know if they were downscaling budgets or
  131. 4:39switching money around. I really don't
  132. 4:41know. But apparently, that's just what's
  133. 4:43going on here.
  134. 4:44No, you don't hate localizers enough. We
  135. 4:46need translators not a fanfic writer
  136. 4:48that doesn't convey author's original
  137. 4:50intention. The whole localization
  138. 4:52industry is a scam. According to Matthew
  139. 4:55Griffin and again, this is something
  140. 4:57that is the post that I was going over
  141. 4:59before. So it seems as if people are
  142. 5:01accusing the Chinese localization
  143. 5:04translators of changing everything.
  144. 5:08They're basically saying that the people
  145. 5:09that translated for China for China,
  146. 5:12they changed everything from the
  147. 5:13original intent of the game and people
  148. 5:15caught on to that and that's pissing
  149. 5:17them off. It's very similar to what
  150. 5:18happens to us with anime and manga
  151. 5:21localization where a lot of stuff gets
  152. 5:24changed to things that were never meant
  153. 5:25from the original release. We get a
  154. 5:27whole bunch of ideology nonsense getting
  155. 5:29pushed in manga and anime these days.
  156. 5:32It's something very similar. Now, again,
  157. 5:35here is a valve translated portion of
  158. 5:37one of the steam reviews blasting the
  159. 5:39Chinese version. Okay, this is coming
  160. 5:40from a Chinese player, but it's
  161. 5:42translated. It says first, the god awful
  162. 5:45Chinese translation that everyone is
  163. 5:47mocking. It's not just pretentious
  164. 5:49pseudo artistic nonsense. The phrasing
  165. 5:52and even the localization of place names
  166. 5:53are an absolute mess. I don't understand
  167. 5:56how Hollow Knight's fantastic quotable
  168. 5:58translation turned into this
  169. 6:00unsalvageable heap of garbage in Silk
  170. 6:03Song. The utterly idiotic localization
  171. 6:06has even affected the game's world
  172. 6:07building and storytelling forcing me to
  173. 6:10guess at character relationships and
  174. 6:12main plot points. Thankfully, the combat
  175. 6:14holds up or else I would be completely
  176. 6:16disgusted. Damn, that is a
  177. 6:20oof. I mean, listen,
  178. 6:22I feel I feel the pain. Okay, I want to
  179. 6:24I want to be very clear. I feel the
  180. 6:25pain. Do I think the game gets to get
  181. 6:27review bombed? I don't know. I don't
  182. 6:29know at this point because again, I feel
  183. 6:30the pain and I understand what it's like
  184. 6:33to see something that I know is one
  185. 6:34thing and get completely changed to
  186. 6:36something totally different all because
  187. 6:38some random localizer wanted to
  188. 6:41go into his fake you know, localization
  189. 6:44philosophy. That's what they view
  190. 6:45themselves as. That's what they view
  191. 6:47their profession as. One woman who is
  192. 6:49very famous in anime views localization
  193. 6:51as localization philosophy. She thinks
  194. 6:53she's a philosopher when it comes to
  195. 6:55changing things and and changing it to
  196. 6:57her worldview. So I get where they're
  197. 6:59coming from and I get their frustration
  198. 7:00and I totally understand. And if it
  199. 7:02really is coming off like that in the
  200. 7:04Chinese versions, well, that sucks,
  201. 7:06right? That really sucks and
  202. 7:07unfortunately, you know, I hope it gets
  203. 7:09changed. I hope they get some new
  204. 7:11localizers and this article doesn't seem
  205. 7:13to mention why they went from six to
  206. 7:16four. I mean from six to two. I I don't
  207. 7:18understand why they did that. Silk Song
  208. 7:20currently sits at a staggeringly low
  209. 7:22rating of 50% out of 10,000 reviews in
  210. 7:25the simplified Chinese category. That
  211. 7:27would be enough to significantly stunt
  212. 7:28the game's steam rating worldwide at
  213. 7:31least in the short term. Had Valve not
  214. 7:33implemented a recent change that
  215. 7:34segments steam reviews by language for
  216. 7:36exactly this reason. Now, review bombing
  217. 7:39in one country for region specific
  218. 7:40issues doesn't bleed over into a game's
  219. 7:43overall perception globally and that's
  220. 7:45what I talked about earlier in the
  221. 7:46video. So unlike when Hollow Knight
  222. 7:48released 8 years ago, Chinese language
  223. 7:50users now make up the largest group on
  224. 7:52steam. While poor translations don't
  225. 7:54hurt a game for anyone not relying on
  226. 7:56them, they can limit a game's trajectory
  227. 7:58on the valve own storefront. Somehow, I
  228. 8:00ultimately don't think that will be a
  229. 8:02problem for Silk Song especially once
  230. 8:03Team Cherry gets the Chinese translation
  231. 8:05sorted. So again, they don't mention why
  232. 8:08they went from six translators to two.
  233. 8:11They don't mention it. I have no idea
  234. 8:13why. But I got to imagine that is going
  235. 8:15to be something they're probably going
  236. 8:16to regret regarding the Chinese
  237. 8:18translation. So you guys let me know
  238. 8:20what you think in the comments down
  239. 8:21below of this entire debacle regarding
  240. 8:23Silk Song in the Chinese version. Do you
  241. 8:26feel like you understand where they're
  242. 8:27coming from considering what we deal
  243. 8:28with with anime and manga or do you
  244. 8:30think it shouldn't matter and
  245. 8:31they need to get over it? Let me know in
  246. 8:33the comments down below what you think.
  247. 8:35Thank you guys so much for watching this
  248. 8:36video and if you enjoyed it, consider
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  250. 8:39see you guys on the next one.

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