The Wrongful Conviction of David Milgaard Part 2 — Transcript
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- 0:00welcome back to part two of the murder
- 0:02of Gail Miller and the wrongful
- 0:04conviction of David Milgard if you
- 0:06haven't watched part one the link to
- 0:08that video will be in the description
- 0:09box below so where we last left off
- 0:12David Milgard had just been convicted of
- 0:15Gail Miller's murder the courtroom was
- 0:18apparently dead quiet except for a group
- 0:20of teenage girls who had been watching
- 0:22the trial for the last few days they
- 0:24began to cry but not for David it was
- 0:27because the trial was over they had told
- 0:30a reporter the night before quote
- 0:32there's no other excitement in the city
- 0:34when thinking back to that moment in
- 0:37time David's memory of his conviction
- 0:39was blurry quote I don't remember
- 0:43actually hearing them say guilty or not
- 0:46guilty I just heard a bunch of noises
- 0:48around me and kind of turned around
- 0:51I looked at my dad I never really saw my
- 0:55dad look anything but who he was strong
- 0:58at that point I looked and he didn't
- 1:00look very strong it scared me too and
- 1:04then I must have known that they had
- 1:06said guilty at the age of 17 David was
- 1:10then sentenced to life in prison his
- 1:13family was in shock they never thought
- 1:15for a second that he was guilty and
- 1:17shortly after David was convicted the
- 1:20Milgard family moved from langenberg to
- 1:22Winnipeg small town langenberg was just
- 1:25too tiny of a community and the Milgard
- 1:27family had been stained by the
- 1:29conviction but the family rallied around
- 1:31David after he was sent to Prince Albert
- 1:33Penitentiary and throughout it all they
- 1:36never gave up on his innocence Joyce
- 1:38Milgard knew her son wasn't an angel she
- 1:41knew about the petty crime and the drug
- 1:43use but she also knew that he wasn't a
- 1:46violent person and David wasted no time
- 1:49filing an appeal less than one week
- 1:51after he was sentenced quote I ended up
- 1:55getting a typewriter and I was typing
- 1:57inside the prison where everybody was
- 1:59open front cells cages and people could
- 2:03hear me and everybody was so upset at
- 2:05this young guy trying to type all night
- 2:08in a February 11 1971 article in the
- 2:11Saskatoon Star Phoenix it was reported
- 2:14that two people had applied for the two
- 2:16thousand dollar reward that was being
- 2:18offered by the Saskatoon Police
- 2:20Department however because an appeal had
- 2:23been launched by David there were
- 2:25questions about whether the reward would
- 2:27be paid now or until all appeals were
- 2:29exhausted David appealed his conviction
- 2:32at Saskatchewan's court of appeal and
- 2:35Cal Talus would once again be arguing
- 2:37his case and defending the Crown's
- 2:40verdict would be prosecutor Serge Kujawa
- 2:42Talus argued that the verdict was
- 2:45unreasonable and could not be supported
- 2:47by the evidence he also objected to two
- 2:50decisions made by Justice bence the
- 2:53first was allowing evidence regarding
- 2:55Ron Wilson's blood type and the second
- 2:57was the cross-examination of Nicole
- 3:00John's original statement in the
- 3:02presence of the jury Telus said that
- 3:05this was something that should have been
- 3:06done with the jury absence
- 3:08but on January 5th 1971 the Saskatchewan
- 3:12court of appeal announced its ruling
- 3:15that the jury was justified in finding
- 3:17David guilty and his appeal was denied
- 3:20meanwhile according to the Star Phoenix
- 3:22at least three people had quietly
- 3:25applied for the two thousand dollar
- 3:26reward being offered in April of 1971
- 3:30David's application for legal aid to
- 3:33appeal his conviction to the Supreme
- 3:34Court of Canada was rejected and on
- 3:38November 15 1971 the Supreme Court of
- 3:41Canada refused to hear milgard's appeal
- 3:44in the eyes of the law David Milgard was
- 3:47guilty and was to spend the rest of his
- 3:49life in prison two weeks after the
- 3:51appeals process was finalized prosecutor
- 3:54Bob Caldwell and a Saskatoon lawyer met
- 3:58to discuss who would get the reward
- 4:00money Ten Years Later it was discovered
- 4:02that Albert could rain or shorty claimed
- 4:05the two thousand dollar reward and the
- 4:08other two people who applied were never
- 4:10identified almost immediately opinions
- 4:13about the verdict were split and only
- 4:16two weeks after David Milgard was
- 4:18convicted and sent to prison the rapes
- 4:21and Saskatoon started up again on
- 4:24February 21st 1970 Cheryl Nelson an 18
- 4:28year old high school student was walking
- 4:30home from work
- 4:32she worked part-time at City Hospital in
- 4:35the cafeteria the same hospital where
- 4:37Gail Miller worked she also took the
- 4:40same bus that Gail Miller would take to
- 4:42work 20th Street well riding the bus she
- 4:46noticed a man wearing orange boots with
- 4:48long dirty hair sitting across the aisle
- 4:50from her she recognized him but couldn't
- 4:53remember where she saw him before when
- 4:56she got off the bus the man followed her
- 4:58and suddenly attacked her from behind
- 5:00and pulled her into a nearby yard where
- 5:03he sexually assaulted her and ran away
- 5:05immediately afterwards police were
- 5:08notified but Cheryl was unable to
- 5:10positively identify the suspect
- 5:13however one of the detectives made a
- 5:15comment that she remembered that this
- 5:18attack was similar to the Gail Miller
- 5:19case she thought this was a strange
- 5:22remark since the man who was responsible
- 5:24was in prison in the spring of 1970
- 5:27construction work around Saskatoon was
- 5:30drying up and masonry contractors
- 5:32successfully bid on a project in the
- 5:35city of Winnipeg Larry Fisher was
- 5:37offered an opportunity and jumped to the
- 5:39chance to go and his wife Linda was all
- 5:42for him going she was just happy that he
- 5:45was working and earning money on the
- 5:47evening of August 2nd 1970 Barbara
- 5:50Sullivan was in downtown Winnipeg
- 5:52heading home from a nursing course she
- 5:55boarded the last bus of the night which
- 5:57only took her as far as the University
- 5:59of Manitoba campus once she arrived at
- 6:03her stop she still had a while to walk
- 6:05home she was only one block away from
- 6:08her home when a man approached her
- 6:10asking for directions she told him she
- 6:13was unable to help him but when she
- 6:15continued to walk away from him he
- 6:17grabbed her from behind held a knife to
- 6:20her throat and covered her mouth she was
- 6:23sexually assaulted while he continued to
- 6:25hit her and then he made her lie on her
- 6:28stomach and tied her arms and legs
- 6:30together with her own clothes the tiny
- 6:33police force and Fort Jerry Manitoba
- 6:35wasn't sure how to handle these brutal
- 6:37attacks
- 6:38detective Lauren Huff who was with the
- 6:41force at the time said that in his 26
- 6:43years as a police officer he had seen
- 6:46all kinds of offenses but this one was
- 6:48hard to forget and Larry Fisher gave no
- 6:51indication that he was the one
- 6:53responsible he worked 40 hours a week
- 6:56minimum often putting in overtime on
- 6:59September 19th Mary Preston an 18 year
- 7:03old first-year Dentistry student took
- 7:05the bus downtown back home in South
- 7:08Winnipeg after an evening at the pub
- 7:10with friends she got off the bus about
- 7:13four blocks away from her home when a
- 7:16man came up from behind her and put his
- 7:18hand over her mouth she started to
- 7:20struggle and scream but this didn't stop
- 7:22him however he failed to notice that a
- 7:25neighbor close by had heard Preston
- 7:27screaming and called the police Larry
- 7:30Fisher had finally been caught in the
- 7:32act and right away he started confessing
- 7:35to the other rapes that had been taking
- 7:37place around Fort Jerry his wife Linda
- 7:40was in shock she was in denial and
- 7:43didn't want to admit that he was capable
- 7:45of doing what they were accusing him of
- 7:47but soon she learned that not only had
- 7:50he confessed to the assaults in Winnipeg
- 7:52but similar attacks in Saskatoon except
- 7:55the one on Gail Miller of course Fisher
- 7:58confessed to Saskatoon detectives to
- 8:00attacking Four Women in Saskatoon and
- 8:03during their interrogation there were no
- 8:06questions asked about Gail Miller's
- 8:08murder they never even considered him as
- 8:10a possibility as far as they were
- 8:12concerned the right man was in prison
- 8:14but police had more than enough cause to
- 8:17reopen the case based on what they just
- 8:19heard and in Gail Miller's case the
- 8:22trail of evidence led to Shorty's house
- 8:24it was the right house just the wrong
- 8:27person even Fisher's wife was convinced
- 8:30that Larry could be responsible for the
- 8:32murder when she had a chance to reflect
- 8:34on everything in a Manitoba Court in May
- 8:37of 1907 71 Larry Fisher would plead
- 8:41guilty to two charges of rape one charge
- 8:44of robbery and one possession of an
- 8:46offensive weapon he was sentenced to six
- 8:49and a half years to be served
- 8:51concurrently but strangely enough he was
- 8:54not sent back to Saskatoon to stand
- 8:56trial for the attacks that took place
- 8:58there fisher was sent to Regina instead
- 9:01where he pled guilty to all charges
- 9:03Serge Kujawa was the prosecutor on the
- 9:06case the same prosecutor who argued
- 9:09against David milgard's appeal less than
- 9:12a year before
- 9:13and there was no media present in court
- 9:16when Larry Fisher pleaded guilty in
- 9:18Regina and was quietly sentenced to 13
- 9:21years in prison that's not entirely true
- 9:24I did find this tiny little press blurb
- 9:27on page 12 of the Star Phoenix just
- 9:29below the obituaries where no one ever
- 9:32looks of course and it's incredibly
- 9:35vague it makes no mention of how many
- 9:38victims he attacked in Saskatoon or
- 9:40where the crimes were even committed
- 9:42David of course knew about none of this
- 9:45if he did he could have used this
- 9:48information for his appeals this would
- 9:51be the beginning of what David Milgard
- 9:53and his legal team felt were multiple
- 9:55cover-ups by police and prosecutors in a
- 9:592021 interview David would be quoted as
- 10:02saying I believe the prosecutor himself
- 10:05somehow really knew what was going on in
- 10:08this situation and more for his own
- 10:11self-preservation than anything else he
- 10:14decided to continue to suppress this
- 10:16information in 1992 the Canadian press
- 10:19would report that new evidence suggested
- 10:22former Saskatchewan Premier Roy romanow
- 10:25and Senior justice department
- 10:27bureaucrats knew that there were doubts
- 10:30about the Milgard conviction since 1971
- 10:33and at a press conference Joyce Milgard
- 10:36revealed to reporters that a former
- 10:39Saskatchewan justice department employee
- 10:41said he was there when David's file and
- 10:44Larry Fisher's file were taken together
- 10:46into a department meeting back in 1971.
- 10:50the secret meetings allegedly included
- 10:53Roy romanow who was Saskatchewan's
- 10:55Justice Minister back then and serge
- 10:58Kujawa the prosecutor who argued against
- 11:01David's appeal and who handled Fisher's
- 11:04rape conviction coincidentally enough
- 11:06gujawa later went on to work in
- 11:09romanow's government according to the
- 11:12leader Star news in a written Memo from
- 11:14kajawa to Premier Alan blackeney dated
- 11:17December 1971. he wrote that fisher had
- 11:21just confessed to the Saskatoon rapes
- 11:23and kajawa wanted to move forward with
- 11:26these charges as soon as possible this
- 11:29memo was written just weeks after
- 11:31Milgard had exhausted his last chance to
- 11:34appeal his conviction for Miller's
- 11:36murder milgard's attorney claimed that
- 11:38someone in the Saskatchewan government
- 11:40didn't want the public to be informed of
- 11:43Fisher's 1971 confession to the sexual
- 11:46assaults around Saskatoon because it
- 11:49would have raised questions about
- 11:50whether he was to blame for Miller's
- 11:52rape and murder it's important to note
- 11:55that Milgard wasn't in Saskatoon during
- 11:57the time that fisher was terrorizing the
- 11:59women of Saskatoon and while the police
- 12:02were keeping quiet about Larry Fisher
- 12:04they conveniently forgot to notify his
- 12:06four victims about his arrest they
- 12:09didn't find out that Larry Fisher had
- 12:11been arrested and convicted for their
- 12:13assault adults until 20 years later in
- 12:161991 after he was convicted Larry Fisher
- 12:20was sent to Prince Albert Penitentiary
- 12:22the same prison where David Milgard was
- 12:24being held
- 12:26talk about rubbing salt in the wound
- 12:28David's first two years behind bars were
- 12:30most likely the most challenging he was
- 12:33only 17 years old being held in a
- 12:35Maximum Security Prison on August 4th
- 12:381971 a prison psychiatrist report
- 12:42described Milgard as a quote frightened
- 12:45young inmate adding that he claims his
- 12:48innocence and doesn't appear to be the
- 12:50criminal type and a staff psychologist
- 12:52noticed that he had a strange
- 12:54relationship with the other inmates they
- 12:56either seemed to be amused by him or
- 12:59respected him eventually he would be
- 13:01subjected to a variety of attacks but
- 13:04held his own and stood up for himself
- 13:06his Defiance caused him to rack up 31
- 13:10institutional offenses during the first
- 13:1218 months of his sentence there were
- 13:15multiple suicide attempts as well one
- 13:18time he jumped out a second story window
- 13:20and in the fall of 1971 he swallowed
- 13:23some wires and required emergency
- 13:25surgery he even went on a hunger strike
- 13:28although he admits these were more cries
- 13:31for help than suicide attempts what he
- 13:33really wanted was to be transferred to
- 13:35Stony Mountain Institution near Winnipeg
- 13:38so he was closer to his family there was
- 13:40also a [ __ ] ton of wrongful diagnosis
- 13:43from prison psychiatrists one said he
- 13:46had antisocial personality disorder but
- 13:48he wasn't psychotic nor neurotic in 1972
- 13:52David was notified that he was being
- 13:54transferred but not to Stony Mountain
- 13:56Institution he would be moving to
- 13:59Dorchester Penitentiary on the east
- 14:01coast in New Brunswick Dorchester is not
- 14:05a nice place to say the least it's the
- 14:07second oldest prison in Canada and it's
- 14:09pretty creepy looking back in the 70s
- 14:12though it was especially violent and had
- 14:14numerous cases of stabbings and beatings
- 14:16actually it still sort of is in 2011
- 14:19former cult leader Roche theriot was
- 14:22murdered in his cell in Dorchester by
- 14:24another inmate while he was at
- 14:26Dorchester Milgard was often put into
- 14:28solitary confinement and the guards
- 14:31would entertain themselves by throwing
- 14:33tear gas into the cells in March of 1973
- 14:36David managed to escape from Dorchester
- 14:39he broke out with three other inmates 29
- 14:43year old Mitchell satell 29 year old
- 14:45William Harvey and 24 year old Douglas
- 14:48Francis herseg they escaped after
- 14:51holding a guard hostage for over an hour
- 14:53and stole the guard's Revolver They were
- 14:56only on the run for a day and the group
- 14:58held an elderly couple hostage in their
- 15:01Farmhouse before they were recaptured on
- 15:03the outskirts of Sackville New Brunswick
- 15:05they were found on a side Road near the
- 15:07trans-canada highway their truck had
- 15:09broken down and they fled into the woods
- 15:11but the dogs tracked them down Joyce
- 15:14Milgard wrote in her book A Mother's
- 15:16story three quote David told us the
- 15:19guards just stood there and let the dogs
- 15:21chew on them he said that afterward when
- 15:24they got back to the prison the guards
- 15:26beat him he said that he had been beaten
- 15:28before but never with such brutality
- 15:31along with the other inmates Milgard
- 15:34received another three years for the
- 15:36prison break and six years for armed
- 15:38robbery to run concurrently with his
- 15:40other sentence in 1976 he was finally
- 15:44approved to be transferred to Stoney
- 15:46Mountain Institution and by 1977 he was
- 15:49able to apply for day parole this would
- 15:52be the first of over 20 applications he
- 15:55would submit but the parole board
- 15:57wouldn't even consider him eligible
- 15:59until he admitted and atoned for his
- 16:02crimes which I guess makes sense if a
- 16:04person is guilty but it creates quite
- 16:07the conundrum if a person is wrongfully
- 16:09convicted the parole board had an
- 16:12incredibly arrogant attitude towards
- 16:14David's family as well telling them that
- 16:17their belief in his innocence was
- 16:19slowing down his process of his
- 16:21re-education Milgard was in a catch-22
- 16:25the parole board was holding his claims
- 16:27of Innocence against him and he would be
- 16:30denied day parole on October 5th 1977
- 16:33but he continued to move forward
- 16:36completing more training and prison
- 16:38programs and for the most part staying
- 16:41out of trouble
- 16:42however every time prison and parole
- 16:44officers opened his file they saw an
- 16:47assortment of conflicting psychiatric
- 16:49Assessments in some he was judged to be
- 16:52normal and then others he was bordering
- 16:55psychotic it's a spectrum that doesn't
- 16:57make any sense after being denied parole
- 17:00again in 1979 David had a small taste of
- 17:03freedom in 1980. on August 22nd 1980
- 17:07while on a temporary escorted pass for
- 17:10his brother's birthday David escaped
- 17:12again police across Canada were on the
- 17:16look for him and even the FBI was
- 17:18contacted he somehow made it from
- 17:20Winnipeg all the way to downtown Toronto
- 17:22he lived under the name David McAdam and
- 17:26even found a job selling encyclopedias
- 17:28over the telephone he alluded police for
- 17:31two and a half months until he was
- 17:32apprehended on November 8th they
- 17:35actually chased David through an alley
- 17:37and thought they saw him reaching for a
- 17:39gun so they shot him in the but just
- 17:43inches away from his spine and even
- 17:45though the officer had just shot an
- 17:47unarmed man in the back he was later
- 17:49cleared of any misconduct David's Escape
- 17:52as well as being shot by cops was his
- 17:55mother's Breaking Point Joyce Milgard
- 17:57realized she could no longer rely on
- 18:00pleading David's case to the parole
- 18:02board as this was going nowhere quote
- 18:05once David escaped that's when I really
- 18:08took on the role as investigator really
- 18:11at that point the whole family did there
- 18:14was no way they were going to let him
- 18:16out they were going to throw away the
- 18:18key once they got him back there the
- 18:21only way we were going to get David out
- 18:24is to find out who really did it she
- 18:27cashed out her retirement savings and on
- 18:29December 30th 1980 she announced that
- 18:32the family was offering a ten thousand
- 18:34dollar reward for anyone who had
- 18:36information that would exonerate David
- 18:38she publicized the offer all over
- 18:41Saskatoon she gave interviews and
- 18:44pleaded with the public to come forward
- 18:46if they had information about the murder
- 18:48she then ordered transcripts of David's
- 18:51preliminary hearing and trial and
- 18:53analyzed them carefully finding numerous
- 18:56errors and inconsistencies
- 18:58and came to the conclusion that the
- 19:01Crown's case was ridiculous
- 19:03the prosecution's case in a nutshell was
- 19:06that David had gotten his car stuck he
- 19:09then randomly raped and murdered a total
- 19:11stranger and then got the car working
- 19:13again and then drove several blocks
- 19:16where he went into a motel and acted
- 19:18completely normal and all of this
- 19:20occurred within a few minutes none of it
- 19:23made any sense the Milgard family in
- 19:26their heart always felt that David was
- 19:28innocent but the court transcripts
- 19:30proved to them that they were right and
- 19:32this made them more determined than ever
- 19:34to get him out the reward got the
- 19:37Public's attention but most of the leads
- 19:39went nowhere they were just people
- 19:41trying to make a quick Buck Joyce soon
- 19:44figured out that the case rested in the
- 19:46hands of those who testified at the
- 19:48trial against David she needed to find
- 19:51them and convince them to tell the truth
- 19:53she received help from a freelance
- 19:55journalist named Peter Carlyle Gorge
- 19:58when he learned more about the case he
- 20:01became convinced a huge Injustice had
- 20:03occurred quote in my view David Milgard
- 20:07is as much of a victim of a heinous
- 20:09crime as Gail Miller was the only
- 20:12difference is that the state not an
- 20:15individual was the perpetrator of the
- 20:17crime against him in 1981 Joyce and
- 20:20Peter Tracked Down Ron Wilson he was
- 20:23living in Regina Saskatchewan and agreed
- 20:25to talk to them although he acted
- 20:27uncomfortable he told them that in his
- 20:30first statement he gave to police David
- 20:33wasn't out of Wilson's sight for more
- 20:35than a few moments of the day the murder
- 20:37took place but by the time he was on the
- 20:40stand to testify at the trial Wilson
- 20:43claimed that David and Ron were part for
- 20:45around 20 minutes Ron said the police
- 20:48were pressuring him to change his
- 20:50statement and that 10 years later he
- 20:52didn't think that David was guilty
- 20:54Nicole John was a little harder to find
- 20:56than Ron she had gotten married and
- 20:59changed her last name and at first
- 21:01declined to speak with Joyce but later
- 21:04changed her mind as long as she could
- 21:06bring her lawyer to the meeting her
- 21:08memories of the events from 12 years ago
- 21:10were hazy she had no memory of seeing a
- 21:13knife on the trip to Saskatoon or seeing
- 21:16anything in the lane when the car got
- 21:18stuck she also didn't remember giving a
- 21:21witness statement for police or being
- 21:24held against her will in a jail cell for
- 21:26her interrogation Joyce was
- 21:29understandably frustrated by Nicole's
- 21:31lack of memory but this didn't stop her
- 21:33from moving forward and searched for
- 21:35anyone who might have information about
- 21:37the case she spoke with George lapchuk
- 21:40one of the Crown's last minute Witnesses
- 21:42who admitted he was on drugs the night
- 21:45that David supposedly reenacted the
- 21:47stabbing in the motel room he also
- 21:50admitted he was given a lighter sentence
- 21:52for the armed robbery charge shortly
- 21:54after he testified they also interviewed
- 21:57a woman named Deborah Hall who was also
- 22:00in the motel room that night but was
- 22:02never called to testify at trial well
- 22:04she said that Melnick and lapchuk's
- 22:06story was a lie and that David had joked
- 22:08about the news but didn't reenact a
- 22:11stabbing and finally Joyce was able to
- 22:14interview shorty who she soon found out
- 22:17was under intense pressure by police so
- 22:20much so that it really messed with his
- 22:22mind they also spoke with Shorty's
- 22:24younger brother Dennis and after doing
- 22:27so it became clear that shorty was
- 22:29mentally unstable and was terrified that
- 22:32Milgard would get out of jail and kill
- 22:34him so far Joyce's research had
- 22:37uncovered several issues with the
- 22:39Crown's case the timing of the murder
- 22:41didn't make any sense at all the star
- 22:44witness had zero credibility the police
- 22:46had obviously pressured Witnesses into
- 22:49changing their statement and the last
- 22:51minute Witnesses clearly lied and should
- 22:53have never been called in the first
- 22:55place meanwhile Saskatoon Police
- 22:58Department was getting a bit agitated
- 23:00with Joyce's snooping around the case as
- 23:03far as they were concerned was closed
- 23:05and the department started contacting
- 23:07original Witnesses and told them not to
- 23:10talk to Joyce or Peter come completely
- 23:12inappropriate behavior in a free country
- 23:15people can speak to whomever they choose
- 23:17eventually Joyce's efforts to exonerate
- 23:20David caught the attention of Howard
- 23:22Shannon who had worked with David at
- 23:25McLean Hunter and who believed in his
- 23:27innocence he offered to pay for
- 23:30high-profile Saskatchewan lawyer Tony
- 23:32Merchant who believed the police's
- 23:34Behavior with Rana Nicole was corrupt
- 23:37quote there was considerable reason to
- 23:40believe that they took these Witnesses
- 23:42and sweated the living heck out of them
- 23:44because the police were under tremendous
- 23:46pressure with their inability to solve
- 23:49this crime at this point they had
- 23:51uncovered a ton of inconsistencies but
- 23:54nothing to prove that Milgard didn't
- 23:56murder Gail Miller fresh evidence was
- 23:59needed in order for the courts to take
- 24:01up the case Tony Merchant realized that
- 24:04the best chance in reopening the case
- 24:06was getting original witnesses to tell
- 24:09the truth that the police pressured them
- 24:11into changing their statement but for
- 24:13this argument to work the witnesses
- 24:15would have to come forward and file a
- 24:17complaint and this wasn't going to
- 24:19happen anytime soon the parole board for
- 24:22the time being continued to deny David
- 24:24parole and they clearly weren't
- 24:27impressed by his attempted escape on
- 24:29January 6 1980 after serving two-thirds
- 24:33of his sentence Larry Fisher was
- 24:35released on mandatory supervision he
- 24:38moved back to North Battleford
- 24:39Saskatchewan where his mother lived and
- 24:42made no effort to contact Linda he was
- 24:45out for less than three months before he
- 24:47got into trouble again on March 31st
- 24:501980 Ellen Samuelson age 56 was walking
- 24:55home from work when Fisher jumped out
- 24:57from behind a hedge and grabbed her from
- 25:00behind held a knife to her throat and
- 25:02sexually assaulted her she was also
- 25:04gagged and he attempted to kill her by
- 25:07slicing her throat and suffocating her
- 25:09she ended up being rescued by a neighbor
- 25:12close by it didn't take very long for
- 25:14police to find their suspect Fisher was
- 25:17the only person in town who had served
- 25:19time for raping women in the past Larry
- 25:22was found in the basement of his
- 25:23mother's house washing the victim's
- 25:25blood off of his boots while searching
- 25:28the basement police also found some of
- 25:31the victim's clothing which he had
- 25:33hidden under the floorboards Ellen was
- 25:35appalled at how the Fisher case was
- 25:37handled quote I feel that it is
- 25:40outrageous and Despicable that the
- 25:43government would rather release fish
- 25:44sure without conducting a thorough and
- 25:47honest investigation into mounting
- 25:49evidence that he murdered Gail Miller as
- 25:52well as trying to murder me Fisher would
- 25:55end up being sentenced to another 10
- 25:57years for rape and attempted murder
- 25:59however this time Larry Fisher's crimes
- 26:03weren't ignored by the media but Gail
- 26:05Miller's murder had occurred so long ago
- 26:08that most people in the area had
- 26:10forgotten about it one individual though
- 26:13that hadn't forgotten about it was Linda
- 26:15Fisher Larry's ex-wife after she read
- 26:18about the attack in North Battleford she
- 26:20became convinced more than ever that
- 26:22Larry was responsible for Gail Miller's
- 26:25murder also in her mailbox was a flyer
- 26:28offering a ten thousand dollar reward to
- 26:30help exonerate David Milgard and her
- 26:33boyfriend encouraged her to go to the
- 26:35police station and tell them what she
- 26:37knew quote I gave the police a one-page
- 26:41statement listing the reasons I could
- 26:43think of why I fell David Milgard was
- 26:46innocent and Larry Fisher had committed
- 26:48the crime they didn't look at me as if I
- 26:50was lying they took it seriously I
- 26:53thought but it didn't seem like the
- 26:55police took her statement seriously at
- 26:57all and the police now knew about the
- 27:00ten thousand dollar reward that Joyce
- 27:02was offering and were offended by the
- 27:04accusation that they had put an innocent
- 27:06man in prison Saskatoon police didn't
- 27:09even bother to question Fisher about the
- 27:11allegations the case as far as they were
- 27:14concerned was closed after watching a
- 27:17documentary about DNA technology Milgard
- 27:21asked his lawyers to pursue this
- 27:22possibility if DNA still existed on Gail
- 27:26Miller's clothing it could reveal who
- 27:28the true killer was and fortunately all
- 27:31of the original exhibits from The milgar
- 27:33Trial were still available which is
- 27:35highly unusual after all legal appeals
- 27:38are exhausted the exhibits are usually
- 27:41destroyed apparently a court clerk
- 27:43working during guard's original trial
- 27:46was so convinced of his innocence that
- 27:49she ensured that this evidence was
- 27:50preserved a motion was made in the
- 27:53Saskatchewan Court of Queen's bench to
- 27:56release some of the key items to Dr
- 27:58James Farris who was head of forensic
- 28:01pathology at the University of British
- 28:03Columbia Ferris agreed to review the
- 28:06evidence free of charge samples were
- 28:09taken from Gail's underwear and girdle
- 28:11but unfortunately Ferris couldn't find
- 28:13enough DNA to run a thorough analysis so
- 28:16in Canada we don't really have clemency
- 28:19or pardoning laws like they do in
- 28:21America our premiers and our prime
- 28:24minister can't pardon prisoners for
- 28:26their crimes or reduce their sentences
- 28:28only the parole board of Canada can
- 28:31under the criminal records act under the
- 28:34criminal records act the parole board of
- 28:36Canada can issue Grant deny and revoke
- 28:39pardons the only other option is to
- 28:42apply to have the case heard by the
- 28:44Supreme Supreme Court of Canada or a
- 28:46direct appeal to the federal Minister of
- 28:48Justice to review the case but the only
- 28:51hope of convincing the Justice minister
- 28:53to even consider this was to come up
- 28:55with new evidence
- 28:56in 1989 a former member of the jury that
- 29:00convicted David Milgard in 1969 came
- 29:03forward saying he was mentally unstable
- 29:06at the time and not strong enough to
- 29:09pass judgment on milgard's guilt or
- 29:11innocence his name was Fernley Cooney a
- 29:14part-time janitor in Saskatoon coonley
- 29:17said he had a mental breakdown in 1962
- 29:20and between then in 1969 he was in and
- 29:24out of Mental Hospitals in 1970 while he
- 29:27was out of the hospital but put on
- 29:29medication he was informed he had been
- 29:32picked for jury duty at milgard's murder
- 29:34trial coonley said because he was
- 29:37embarrassed about his mental illness he
- 29:39never told anyone that he wasn't
- 29:41mentally competent to serve he
- 29:43originally felt that Milgard was
- 29:45innocent but the jurors that felt that
- 29:47Milgard was guilty pressured the others
- 29:49until he was the only one left
- 29:52supporting a not guilty verdict he
- 29:55eventually came to the pressure the but
- 29:57felt that if he was mentally well he
- 29:59would have been able to force a hung
- 30:01jury quote I shouldn't have been on that
- 30:04jury if it had happened when I was
- 30:06younger I wouldn't have let somebody
- 30:08persuade me at that time I could be
- 30:11persuaded in October 1989 Chief Joe
- 30:15penkala issued a press statement saying
- 30:18that he was not worried about the report
- 30:20that said evidence he gathered back in
- 30:231969 wrongfully convicted David Milgard
- 30:27and said that everything he did was
- 30:29truthful in November of 1989 after
- 30:32almost 20 years the federal justice
- 30:35department was seriously investigating
- 30:37milgard's claims of Innocence he had
- 30:40retained a new lawyer David asper who
- 30:43filed an application for retrial by 1990
- 30:46David milgard's application to the
- 30:49Federal Department of Justice was
- 30:51starting to get some attention in the
- 30:52media however in April of 1990 the
- 30:56justice department Department admitted
- 30:58to the Leader Post newspaper the David
- 31:00milgard's file had never come up for
- 31:02review even though his lawyers had
- 31:04submitted the application 14 months
- 31:07earlier in other words they were
- 31:09dragging their feet and within this
- 31:1114-month time period there had been a
- 31:13federal election and there was a new
- 31:15Justice Minister Kim Campbell in May of
- 31:181990 Joyce Milgard was done with the
- 31:21games that the government was playing
- 31:22and tried to hand some documents to Kim
- 31:25Campbell personally and I'll show a
- 31:27little clip of the video but it's just
- 31:29it's incredibly uncomfortable to watch
- 31:31Kim Campbell was just incredibly rude
- 31:35and the Canadian media happened to be
- 31:37there to capture the moment
- 31:41Joyce Milgard Paces anxiously she's
- 31:44waiting for federal Justice Minister Kim
- 31:46Campbell to give her a report she says
- 31:49may prove her son David's innocence I'm
- 31:52sorry it's Madam if you want your if you
- 31:53want your son to have a fair hearing
- 31:55don't approach me personally I'm sorry
- 31:58I'm sorry but I want her to have her son
- 32:00to have a hearing that will withstand
- 32:02scrutiny by the court comment on the
- 32:04substantive excuse me sorry
- 32:07sorry it's very important we cannot
- 32:10comment on the substance of the report
- 32:11thank you very much I tried I I all I
- 32:14wanted to do West letter have the ferris
- 32:18report what true department has had
- 32:19since 1988 and she claims she hasn't
- 32:22seen it Campbell later said quote The
- 32:25Minister's impartiality would have been
- 32:27jeopardized if she accepted the
- 32:29documents fair enough but she could have
- 32:32handled that moment with a little bit
- 32:33more grace Joyce Milgard also revealed
- 32:36in an interview that she had recently
- 32:38traveled to Saskatoon and she spoke with
- 32:41a person who gave a statement to police
- 32:43in 1980 naming a man she believed was
- 32:47the real murderer this individual was
- 32:49Linda Fisher and for over a decade
- 32:51Saskatoon police had done absolutely
- 32:54nothing with this information in May of
- 32:561990 as Larry Fisher was finally being
- 33:00investigated by the RCMP for Gail
- 33:02Miller's murder the Press learned that
- 33:05Larry had been questioned by police
- 33:07briefly four days after the murder took
- 33:10place however no one at the time
- 33:12realized the significance of this
- 33:14interview you supposedly and by now the
- 33:17justice department was furious with
- 33:19Joyce Milgard her lawyer told her that
- 33:22the department said that she was ruining
- 33:24the investigation and to that she said
- 33:27what investigation they've had this
- 33:29information since
- 33:311980. also in May of 1990 according to
- 33:34Manitoba's chief medical examiner Dr
- 33:37Peter Marcus Stein the two yellow spots
- 33:40found in the snow next to Gail Miller's
- 33:43body may have been dog urine not seamen
- 33:46the report stated that it is possible to
- 33:49mistake dog urine for human semen
- 33:51because male dog urine often contain
- 33:54semen in June of 1990 after stalling the
- 33:58case for almost a year and a half the
- 34:00justice department announced it had
- 34:02agreed to meet with the forensic
- 34:04Pathologists who disputed David
- 34:06milgard's conviction coincidentally on
- 34:09the same page of the Star Phoenix
- 34:11Saskatoon police chief Joe penkala who
- 34:14had remain remained silent about the
- 34:16Milgard case up until now issued a
- 34:19statement and basically tried to blame
- 34:21the media for the constant Milgard
- 34:23coverage
- 34:24quote my disappointment lies with the
- 34:27fact of the insensitivity of the media
- 34:29for the victims of a very heinous crime
- 34:32that occurred in 1969. penkala seems to
- 34:36have forgotten that one of the
- 34:37foundations of our justice system is
- 34:39that it operates publicly
- 34:41in June of 1990 Ron Wilson recanted his
- 34:45testimony and accused the police of
- 34:48misconduct no longer a scared teenager
- 34:51Wilson offered a statement saying
- 34:53pressure from the Saskatoon police
- 34:55investigators practically brainwashed
- 34:57him into incriminating Milgard suddenly
- 35:00the Department of Justice stopped
- 35:02dragging its heels and began taking it
- 35:04very seriously quote it was like a sweat
- 35:08session my mind was exhausted and I was
- 35:11mentally scrambled I remember it now
- 35:14being like brainwashing finally I began
- 35:17to implicate Milgard in the murder
- 35:18telling the police the things they
- 35:21wanted to hear I am now certain that I
- 35:23was manipulated by the police and to
- 35:25lying and later giving false testimony
- 35:28against Milgard by June of 1990 the
- 35:31Milgard case was about to become a media
- 35:33shitstorm Linda Fisher came forward to
- 35:36the media saying that she submitted a
- 35:39signed statement to the justice
- 35:40department
- 35:41in this statement she said she believed
- 35:44her husband Larry Fisher was responsible
- 35:46for the murder of Gail Miller
- 35:48the cat was out of the bag Canada was
- 35:51about to learn about Larry Fisher his
- 35:54past rape charges in Winnipeg and
- 35:56Saskatoon and that he lived in the
- 35:59basement of Shorty's house also in June
- 36:01of 1990 Albert cadrain also known as
- 36:04shorty broke his silence and submitted a
- 36:07signed statement to the justice
- 36:09department quote before I walked into
- 36:12that police station I was a happy normal
- 36:14kid my life has never been the same and
- 36:17it never will be they put me through
- 36:19hell and mental torture it finally
- 36:22reached the point where I couldn't stand
- 36:24the constant pressure threats and
- 36:27bullying anymore those detectives pushed
- 36:30me over the edge and I cracked shorty
- 36:33also said that he became paranoid during
- 36:35the investigation and that he remembers
- 36:38being interviewed between 15 to 20 times
- 36:41after the trial was over his brother
- 36:43encouraged him to commit himself to the
- 36:45psychiatric ward at University Hospital
- 36:48where where he was drugged for 24 hours
- 36:50a day and subjected to electric shock
- 36:53therapy in the meantime the justice
- 36:55department was still taking its sweet
- 36:57ass time on the case but Joyce Milgard
- 36:59wasn't in late August of 1990 it was
- 37:03announced that she was interviewed for
- 37:05the television show a current affair and
- 37:07it would be airing in a few weeks this
- 37:10was most likely really embarrassing for
- 37:12the Canadian government it's one thing
- 37:14for a Canadian news organization to
- 37:16investigate and to bring attention to a
- 37:19suspected wrongful conviction case but
- 37:21when Canada makes international news
- 37:23it's usually for all the wrong reasons
- 37:25and it tends to attract attention that
- 37:28the government would rather not deal
- 37:29with Joyce Milgard said she contacted
- 37:32the show because she was frustrated by
- 37:34the lack of Canadian television coverage
- 37:36there have been plenty of print stories
- 37:38up until this point but the CBC had not
- 37:41really aired anything outside of
- 37:43Winnipeg and on the east coast of the
- 37:45country no one knew anything about
- 37:47David's case she shows like The Fifth
- 37:49Estate or W5 had yet to cover the story
- 37:52in the 1990s the show a current affair
- 37:55was seen by about 25 million people in
- 37:59the U.S as well as being broadcasted in
- 38:02Europe and in Canada and to the producer
- 38:04of the show it was worth crossing the
- 38:06border to cover the story Saskatoon
- 38:09police chief Joe penkala was apparently
- 38:11too terrified to talk to a current
- 38:13affairs producers as he refused to be
- 38:15interviewed on camera by December of
- 38:171990 David's case was still lost in
- 38:21bureaucratic limbo it was reported that
- 38:23some senior officials in the Justice
- 38:26Department believed that the department
- 38:28lawyer Eugene Williams had purposely
- 38:31mishandled the investigation and was
- 38:34trying to rewrite his report before
- 38:36handing it to Justice Minister Kim
- 38:38Campbell milgard's lawyer said that
- 38:40concerns about Williams grew when he met
- 38:42with other Justice Department officials
- 38:44back in October of 1990 saying quote
- 38:47there is a very very clear bias against
- 38:50our client honestly I think this is the
- 38:53point where the justice department was
- 38:54secretly hoping that Joyce melgaard
- 38:56would just give up and go away but that
- 38:59wasn't going to happen in February of
- 39:021991 Justice Minister Kim Campbell
- 39:05refused to intervene in the murder
- 39:07conviction of David Milgard I don't
- 39:10think she was truly prepared for the
- 39:11blowback she was about to receive for
- 39:13this decision she is quoted as saying I
- 39:16have concluded there is no reason to
- 39:18believe a miscarriage of justice is
- 39:21likely to have occurred in this case oh
- 39:23how wrong she was
- 39:25she also acknowledged that it is quite
- 39:28coincidental that a man who would be
- 39:30convicted of more than one rape lived
- 39:33about a block away from Miller but there
- 39:35was no evidence to connect him with the
- 39:37slang David was understandably
- 39:39devastated by this decision a private
- 39:42detective Paul Henderson who spent more
- 39:45than a year on the case speculated that
- 39:47the only possible explanation for the
- 39:50refusal to reconsider the case is that
- 39:53the government doesn't want to admit its
- 39:55own mistakes that they have kept an
- 39:57innocent man in prison they don't want
- 39:59to admit they screwed up around this
- 40:02time Serge kajala who is the prosecutor
- 40:05during David's unsuccessful appeal
- 40:07started speaking with the media saying
- 40:10that what bothered him about the case
- 40:11was milgard's failure to take the stand
- 40:14in his own defense well sir he didn't
- 40:17take the stand because in Canada we have
- 40:19the right to remain silent on August 29
- 40:221991 the Globe and Mail paper reported
- 40:25that files that were important to the
- 40:28Milgard case had disappeared from the
- 40:31Saskatoon Police Department computerized
- 40:34record system a police source told the
- 40:37Globe and Mail quote something went on
- 40:39it's very bizarre it's something that
- 40:42just shouldn't happen for every detail
- 40:45like that to vanish somebody's tampered
- 40:47with the system for days the police were
- 40:50investigating the alleged disappearance
- 40:52of at least four files that concerned
- 40:55serial rapist Larry Fisher the missing
- 40:57files were the four sexual assaults that
- 41:00took place in Saskatoon three before
- 41:02Gail Miller's murder and one after
- 41:04milgard's conviction coincidence I think
- 41:07not the Globe and Mail also reported
- 41:10that a fifth file that involved another
- 41:13unsolved sexual assault was also missing
- 41:15she was attacked a few blocks away from
- 41:18where Gail Miller was killed sometime
- 41:20between August 16th and the 27th the
- 41:23files spontaneously disappeared that is
- 41:26not a coincidence and totally reeks up a
- 41:29cover-up in my opinion of course already
- 41:32the Saskatoon police are not looking too
- 41:35good and they just made things worse for
- 41:37themselves then in September it was
- 41:40announced that more police records were
- 41:42missing an access of information request
- 41:45made by Ron Wilson's lawyer revealed
- 41:48that results Iran's polygraph tests
- 41:50could not be located
- 41:52shortly after Joyce Milgard held a
- 41:55peaceful protest outside the hotel where
- 41:58prime minister Brian moroney was holding
- 42:00a speaking engagement she and other
- 42:02supporters held candles one for each
- 42:05year David had spent in prison prime
- 42:08minister mulrooney actually met with her
- 42:10and told her she was Courageous by
- 42:12October of 1991 public pressure was
- 42:16starting to mount on Justice Minister
- 42:17Kim Campbell milgard's lawyer had filed
- 42:20a second application citing new evidence
- 42:23plus there was the little conundrum of
- 42:26the missing police files that were
- 42:28looking more and more suspicious on
- 42:30October 1991 former police chief Joe
- 42:33pincola had a full-blown media meltdown
- 42:36saying that he had had it with the
- 42:38rumors and innuendos when it came to the
- 42:41Milgard case and in late October of 1991
- 42:44Milgard was quietly transferred to a
- 42:47minimum security Annex at Stony Mountain
- 42:50Penitentiary the Pearl board wouldn't
- 42:52move him up into this point because he
- 42:54refused to admit he was guilty which he
- 42:57wasn't but shortly after Joyce Milgard
- 42:59met with prime minister Brian moroney
- 43:01and a phone call came in from his office
- 43:04the parole board of Canada seemed to
- 43:06have a change of heart and approved the
- 43:09transfer however they once again denied
- 43:12parole the court of public opinion can
- 43:14be a powerful thing and Kim Campbell was
- 43:17starting to have second thoughts about
- 43:18not reviewing the Milgard case there was
- 43:21a constant media focus on this case as
- 43:24well as her boss Brian moroney publicly
- 43:26met with Joyce Milgard she was running
- 43:28out of excuses so in November of 1991
- 43:32Kim Campbell finally agreed to refer
- 43:35David milgard's case to the Supreme
- 43:37Court of Canada the case was literally
- 43:40fast tracked to the Supreme Court which
- 43:42never happens within a month it was
- 43:45being argued the former prosecutor for
- 43:47the Saskatchewan appeals court Serge
- 43:50kajawa who is now an end
- 43:52dpmla had some Choice words about the
- 43:55Supreme Court review apparently surge
- 43:58needed to educate himself about the
- 44:00Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms
- 44:02which granted didn't exist back in 1969
- 44:05but was now the law of the land in 1991.
- 44:08he stated in the Winnipeg Sun quote it
- 44:12doesn't matter if Milgard is innocent
- 44:14I'm not primarily concerned with his
- 44:16guilt or innocence what I am concerned
- 44:19with is you and the lawyers are selling
- 44:22us down the river the whole judicial
- 44:24system is at issue it's worth more than
- 44:27just one person needless to say after
- 44:29issuing that horrific statement other
- 44:32members of the provincial government
- 44:33started distancing themselves from Mr
- 44:35Kujawa meanwhile Eddie Hurst who was a
- 44:38Saskatoon police detective on the
- 44:40Milgard case back in 1969 admitted to
- 44:44meeting with Larry Fisher after denying
- 44:46that he ever did in October of 1970 cars
- 44:50had traveled to Winnipeg to interview
- 44:51Fisher about four Saskatoon sexual
- 44:54assaults Fisher's confession to these
- 44:57four attacks as we know would
- 44:59mysteriously disappear suddenly from the
- 45:02computer system but that's not the only
- 45:04suspicious incident on top of this other
- 45:07police sources say that Eddie karst
- 45:09should have never been assigned the
- 45:11Fisher case at all because he was in the
- 45:13homicide division not the division that
- 45:16handles sexual assaults so who approved
- 45:19this who ordered him to go to Winnipeg
- 45:21and who else went with him I believed
- 45:24that Eddie karst and others on the
- 45:26Saskatoon police force knew almost from
- 45:28the beginning that Larry Fisher was the
- 45:30real killer and that was the reason for
- 45:33this highly unusual trip in January of
- 45:351992 the Supreme Court of Canada finally
- 45:39took up the David Milgard case it was
- 45:42highly publicized and the Supreme Court
- 45:44of Canada was kind of in Uncharted
- 45:46Territory they had never taken up a case
- 45:49this way before and in October 14 1992
- 45:53the Supreme Court of Canada overturned
- 45:56David milgard's conviction they said in
- 45:59the ruling that new evidence together
- 46:02with existing evidence quote could
- 46:05reasonably be expected to have affected
- 46:08the verdict however they also said that
- 46:11they were not satisfied Beyond A
- 46:13Reasonable Doubt the David Milgard was
- 46:15innocent of the murder of Gail Miller
- 46:17which meant the province of Saskatchewan
- 46:20had the option however unlikely to try
- 46:23him again the day after the Supreme
- 46:25Court of Canada's verdict Saskatchewan
- 46:28attorney general Bob Mitchell decided
- 46:30not to try David Milgard a second time
- 46:33David was finally free however his name
- 46:36wasn't cleared and reaction from the
- 46:39public was mixed he had tons of support
- 46:41but there were those who were afraid of
- 46:43him too Gail Miller's family was
- 46:46understandably devastated and their
- 46:48story had kind of been lost through this
- 46:50entire fiasco the day after the Supreme
- 46:53Court verdict they said they wanted a
- 46:55public inquiry into the case and there
- 46:58were still a ton of unanswered questions
- 47:00why did the Saskatoon police fail to
- 47:03pursue similarities between Larry
- 47:05Fisher's crimes and Miller's murder when
- 47:08they took the confession from Fisher
- 47:10nine months after milgard's conviction
- 47:12and milgard's defense lawyer caltelis
- 47:16didn't know at the time of the original
- 47:18trial that police were originally
- 47:20looking for connections between the
- 47:22unsolved rapes in Saskatoon and Miller's
- 47:25murder before they zeroed in on Milgard
- 47:27why didn't the crown or the police
- 47:29disclose this information to him why did
- 47:32the Saskatoon police department and the
- 47:34provincial justice department choose to
- 47:36issue a direct indictment against Fisher
- 47:39in Regina when he should have been sent
- 47:41back to Saskatoon to face charges there
- 47:43why were Fisher's victims never notified
- 47:46of his arrest or his conviction why was
- 47:49Fishers guilty pleased for the Saskatoon
- 47:51rapes delayed until after milgard's
- 47:53appeals were exhausted and then there's
- 47:55the issue of the supposed missing files
- 47:58after doing some digging milgard's
- 48:01lawyers uncovered that one of the files
- 48:03went missing as early as 1974.
- 48:06individually there may be some very
- 48:08simple answers to these questions but
- 48:10when added altogether the whole thing
- 48:12stinks of corruption from top to bottom
- 48:14in my opinion of course so David was now
- 48:18free but the Canadian government had no
- 48:21plans to compensate him for the 23 years
- 48:23they stole from him and refused to hold
- 48:26a public inquiry as far as
- 48:28Saskatchewan's Justice Minister Bob
- 48:30Mitchell was concerned there wasn't
- 48:32anything to inquire into as the Supreme
- 48:35Court ruling stated there was nothing
- 48:37improper with either the police
- 48:39investigation or the trial Bob Mitchell
- 48:42was also refusing to lay charges against
- 48:44Larry Fisher for Gail Miller's murder
- 48:46saying quote there's nothing more to be
- 48:49done with it it's something I think we
- 48:51should all just try to to put behind us
- 48:52and carry on with life that wasn't going
- 48:55to happen things were just getting
- 48:57warmed up completely unrelated to the
- 48:59case but still significant in May of
- 49:021995 Albert could drain or shorty was
- 49:06shot and killed by a hunter and Mission
- 49:08British Columbia who apparently mistook
- 49:11him for a bear the whole story sounds a
- 49:13little sketchy to be honest shorty was
- 49:16apparently checking on a marijuana crop
- 49:18and the hunter was only about 80 feet
- 49:21away when he was shot I mean it is a
- 49:23possibility but the whole marijuana
- 49:26thing factored in I don't know it just
- 49:28sounds a little weird in 1995 another
- 49:31man named gay pal Moran who was
- 49:34convicted for the murder of a little
- 49:35girl in Ontario and who had spent 10
- 49:38years in prison for the crime had just
- 49:40been cleared by DNA testing DNA tests
- 49:44had greatly improved since milgard's
- 49:46previous test in 1988 and 1992. he
- 49:49contacted maren's lawyer Jane James
- 49:52lockyer who would join David's legal
- 49:54team and negotiated with the federal
- 49:56justice department for DNA testing
- 49:58another two years would pass and then
- 50:01finally in May of 1997 the test would be
- 50:05conducted by the British forensic
- 50:07science services in England at the time
- 50:09it was believed to be the oldest
- 50:11evidence to undergo DNA testing in an
- 50:14attempt to exonerate a person convicted
- 50:16of a crime Larry Fisher's DNA was also
- 50:19tested and compared and on July 19 1997
- 50:2427 years after being convicted it was
- 50:27announced that DNA tests officially
- 50:30cleared Milgard not only that but the
- 50:32DNA sample conclusively matched Larry
- 50:35Fisher but the Saskatoon police were
- 50:37still reluctant to file charges against
- 50:39Larry Fisher saying that if the DNA
- 50:42results were released by David milgard's
- 50:44lawyers they would consider Larry Fisher
- 50:46as their Prime Suspect but in the
- 50:49meantime they had no plans to charge him
- 50:51and insisting that they don't have
- 50:53enough evidence to make an arrest Bob
- 50:55Caldwell and serge kajawa the two men
- 50:58who prosecuted David Milgard immediately
- 51:01issued a public apology for the failing
- 51:03of the system but they also maintained
- 51:06that they did nothing wrong but the
- 51:08apology in itself was just weird Bob
- 51:11Caldwell had gone way beyond the call of
- 51:14duty by sending the parole board
- 51:16detailed information over the years in
- 51:19an effort to convince the parole board
- 51:21not to release David and kajawa had made
- 51:24many inappropriate statements since
- 51:26David's release this wasn't really a
- 51:29heartfelt apology this was them trying
- 51:31to salvage their political careers the
- 51:34Saskatoon police however outright
- 51:36refused to make an apology or even admit
- 51:39they made a mistake instead the police
- 51:42chief just blamed press hysteria over
- 51:45the case and that the media was just
- 51:48stirring up controversy because the
- 51:50Saskatoon police refused to do their job
- 51:53and arrest Larry Fisher the RCMP took
- 51:56over the case and almost immediately
- 51:58issued a canada-wide warrant for his
- 52:00arrest Larry Fisher would be arrested in
- 52:03Late July 1997 in Calgary and charged
- 52:07with the 1969 murder of Gail Miller
- 52:10funny how the Saskatoon Police
- 52:12Department didn't think there was enough
- 52:13evidence to charge him but the RCMP did
- 52:16the Saskatchewan government finally
- 52:19agreed to hold a public inquiry and to
- 52:21compensate David for the 23 years he
- 52:24spent in prison they really didn't have
- 52:26a choice if they fought compensation
- 52:29they would lose and end up costing the
- 52:31taxpayers more money in 1999 David
- 52:34Milgard was given a 10 million dollar
- 52:36compensation package from the provincial
- 52:39and federal government it would take
- 52:41another two years before Larry Fisher
- 52:44was brought to trial for Gail Miller's
- 52:46murder but in November of 1999 Larry
- 52:49Fisher would be found guilty of her rape
- 52:52and murder and sends to life in prison
- 52:54it would take another four years for the
- 52:56Saskatchewan government to announce
- 52:58there would be a public inquiry into how
- 53:00Milgard was wrongfully convicted for
- 53:03Gail Miller's murder and another two
- 53:05years for the inquiry to begin
- 53:06apparently the Saskatchewan government
- 53:09wanted to wait until all of Larry
- 53:11Fisher's appeals were exhausted before
- 53:13launching the inquiry when the Supreme
- 53:15Court of Canada refused to hear Fisher's
- 53:18appeal the public inquiry of David
- 53:21milgard's wrongful conviction began in
- 53:23January 2005. the inquiry ran for two
- 53:27years it called 114 witnesses to testify
- 53:31and had more than 3 000 exhibits the
- 53:35entire inquiry contained over 300 000
- 53:38pages and produced over forty thousand
- 53:41pages of transcripts in terms of costs
- 53:43the public inquiry of David milgard's
- 53:46wrongful conviction caused the province
- 53:48of Saskatchewan 11.2 million dollars
- 53:51that's on top of the 10 million dollars
- 53:53they had to pay David in 2008 the
- 53:57inquiry report was released with 13
- 53:59recommendations to reform prosecution
- 54:02and policing in Canada among these
- 54:05recommendations was a suggestion that
- 54:07the federal government established an
- 54:10independent review commission to examine
- 54:12the claims of wrongful convictions quote
- 54:15the criminal justice system failed David
- 54:18Milgard and that he might have been
- 54:20released sooner had the police followed
- 54:22up on a tip they received in 1980. the
- 54:26inquiry though also absolved the police
- 54:28of any wrongdoing and said that the
- 54:31investigation was done in accordance
- 54:33with the standards of the day and in
- 54:35good faith quote tunnel vision
- 54:38negligence and misconduct may have been
- 54:41alleged but is not shown said the
- 54:43commissioner the inquiry recommended for
- 54:46the federal government to create an
- 54:48independent body to review allegations
- 54:50of wrongful conviction the report stated
- 54:53that if such a body had existed Milgard
- 54:56might have been released from prison
- 54:57years earlier David however believes the
- 55:00truth was intentionally being covered up
- 55:02and that the police and the prosecutors
- 55:04knew that he was innocent but
- 55:06intentionally kept quiet about it to
- 55:09save their careers and their reputation
- 55:11Milgard says he understands the pressure
- 55:13his friends were placed under by a
- 55:16police force desperate for a conviction
- 55:18he says he's forgiven them both quote
- 55:21Nicole John was kept inside a jail cell
- 55:24until she did what they wanted her to do
- 55:27Wilson was told that he was probably
- 55:29going to be charged with murder if he
- 55:31didn't do what they wanted him to do in
- 55:34the end none of the questions regarding
- 55:37the alleged Larry Fisher cover-up were
- 55:39ever answered the inquiry acknowledged a
- 55:42terrible Injustice had occurred but
- 55:44neither the police or the prosecutor
- 55:46were held responsible for what happened
- 55:48to David the government just kind of
- 55:51wanted this whole mess to go away Larry
- 55:53Fisher would eventually die in prison in
- 55:562015 at the age of 65. David in the
- 56:00meantime became an advocate for the
- 56:02wrongfully accused telling CTV News
- 56:05Winnipeg he hoped his presence would
- 56:07Inspire and encourage other wrongfully
- 56:10convicted people to never give up their
- 56:12fight to prove their innocence and
- 56:14regain their freedom in his later years
- 56:16Milgard helped raise awareness about
- 56:19wrongful convictions and demanded action
- 56:22on the way Canadian courts review
- 56:24convictions quote I think it's important
- 56:27for everybody not just lawyers but for
- 56:30the public itself to be aware that
- 56:32wrongful convictions are taking place
- 56:34and that these people are sitting right
- 56:36now behind bars and they're trying to
- 56:39get out the policies that are keeping
- 56:41them there need to be changed the
- 56:44wrongful conviction review process is
- 56:46failing us all miserably David would
- 56:49continue his advocacy work until May
- 56:51date of 2022 when sadly David passed
- 56:56away at the age of 69 from complications
- 56:59related to pneumonia and that brings me
- 57:01to the end of this very sad story David
- 57:04also had a YouTube channel if you'd like
- 57:06to know more about him I will link the
- 57:08Channel Down Below thank you so much for
- 57:10taking the time to hang out with me if
- 57:12you enjoyed this video please hit the
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- 57:16more of these wrongfully convicted cases
- 57:18while I was researching this one I
- 57:20discovered there were quite a few that
- 57:22have kind of been lost in history if you
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- 57:28links to all my socials are also down
- 57:29below thank you so much for watching and
- 57:32I will see you next time
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