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0:00Like you're at this point, you're not
0:01even listening to me.
0:02>> I am listening to you. You're saying I
0:04didn't shoot him. I didn't shoot him. I
0:05didn't shoot him.
0:05>> And if I have people telling me that you
0:07did,
0:07>> you have another criminal telling you
0:09that I did. Okay.
0:10>> I have two other people telling you.
0:16>> On the evening of June 3rd, 2025, police
0:19in Panama City Beach, Florida, responded
0:21to a shooting outside a Waffle House
0:23[music] on Front Beach Road. The victim
0:26was 19-year-old JDon Love Hughes, who
0:28had been [music] in the parking lot when
0:29a dispute suddenly escalated around a
0:31firearm. What began as a confrontation
0:34over a stolen gun quickly moved toward a
0:36parked vehicle [music]
0:37where multiple people were caught in a
0:39tense and fast-moving struggle. Jadon
0:42was not the person at the center of the
0:43dispute. According to investigators, he
0:46was unarmed and had stepped toward the
0:47confrontation as it unfolded, trying to
0:49calm the situation before [music] it
0:51spiraled further. Moments later, a shot
0:53was fired and JDN was struck. As
0:56officers worked the scene, they had to
0:58determine who had the [music] weapons,
1:00how the fight began, and why an argument
1:02in a restaurant parking lot ended with a
1:04young man dead. One of the people
1:06investigators focused on was 19-year-old
1:08Jazzai Mitchell, [music] who was brought
1:10in for questioning shortly after the
1:11shooting. Now, detectives sit down with
1:14him to hear his version of what happened
1:16that night. [music] This is the
1:17interrogation of Jazzai Mitchell.
1:24Hey man,
1:25you wake up first.
1:29Detect Beach Department. This detective
1:31Matis,
1:33we're going to chat with you about kind
1:35of what happened. We've talked to a
1:36bunch of people already, so we're kind
1:38of piecing together a picture here, but
1:40uh I want to hear what you had to say
1:42and
1:44go from there. Kind of fill in some of
1:46the spots. Okay,
1:49I'm going record this just so when I go
1:51back I don't get things mixed up. I want
1:53to recall what you said properly. Okay.
1:56Secretary, the following statements
1:57being taken at Penel City Beach Police
1:59Department in reference case number 252
2:022268.
2:04Today's date is Wednesday, June 4th,
2:072025 and the time is approximately 3
2:10a.m. President's interviews myself,
2:12Detective Kenel. Please state your full
2:14name. Jazelle Mitchell.
2:17>> Spell your last name for me.
2:18>> M I T C H E L O.
2:21>> What's your current address?
2:25>> That's Panama City, Florida.
2:26>> Yes, sir.
2:27>> Is that your house or?
2:29>> No.
2:30>> Whose house is it?
2:31>> Mom's mom's house.
2:34>> Uh what's a good phone number for you?
2:41>> My number?
2:41>> Yeah.
2:45Is that a cell phone? Yes, sir.
2:47>> What's your date of birth? 10306.
2:52How old are you?
2:52>> 18.
2:55Do you have an email address?
2:59Huh?
3:03Yes, sir. I have a golden brown.
3:08Is that Gmail or? Yes, sir.
3:16You raise your right hand for me.
3:21You swear and affirm the following
3:22statement you're about to give is the
3:23truth, the whole truth, and nothing but
3:25the truth. So, I'll help you out.
3:26>> Yes, sir.
3:26>> Okay. I'm going to let you know your
3:28your Miranda rights. Uh cuz you were
3:30brought up here in a cop car and stuff.
3:31So, before I talk to you, I'm going to
3:32let you advise your rights. Have you
3:34ever heard your rights before?
3:39>> Yes, sir. Okay.
3:41If you have any questions, just let me
3:43know. I'll try to explain them to to you
3:46as best I can.
3:51Okay. You have the right to remain
3:52silent. Anything you say can or will be
3:54used against you in the court of law.
3:55The right to talk to a lawyer and have
3:57him her present with you while you're
3:58being questioned. You cannot afford to
4:00hire a lawyer. Won't be appointed to
4:02represent you before any question if you
4:04wish. Decide at any time to exercise
4:06these rights and not answer any
4:07questions or making statements. Do you
4:09understand those rights? Yes, sir.
4:10>> With those rights in mind, are you
4:12willing to talk to me about this
4:13situation?
4:16>> Yes, sir. You will
4:23sign right there. It's just saying you
4:25didn't your rights.
4:30So, run me through real quick kind of
4:32how you ended up
4:35here tonight. Like what what happened? I
4:39talked to
4:41is it Kyrie?
4:42>> Yeah,
4:42>> I talked to him already. He kind of
4:45explained his kind of side of things and
4:48but like go back a couple hours and when
4:51y'all started hanging out like what
4:53happened?
4:58>> What was that?
4:59>> Um we were hanging out.
5:02>> Uhhuh. How do you know each other?
5:05>> Went to school together.
5:07>> Okay. Rutherford.
5:09>> Rutherford. I think he said
5:13>> y'all meet in class or something.
5:16>> How long have y'all known each other?
5:18>> Since we met together.
5:21>> How long has that been?
5:23>> Couple years.
5:24>> Couple years.
5:28Y'all hang out frequently?
5:29>> Mhm.
5:31>> Okay. So, what happened tonight?
5:34Like, were y'all hanging out earlier
5:36today or Yeah. kind of run me through
5:39how y'all ended up at Waffle House
5:43to meet with some females.
5:46>> Okay. Who were the females?
5:48>> I don't know. Who knows?
5:52>> Uh, I think it was Kre. It was some
5:54random female from the B.
5:57Summers, random people. It just
5:59>> Okay. So, some random girls he knew
6:01already.
6:02>> I don't think he know. I just met him. I
6:05think they told us to pull up to house.
6:08>> When did y'all meet him?
6:10>> I guess he met him when he was already
6:12out here. I don't know. I just was
6:13coming in the room.
6:14>> When did he pick you up?
6:16>> Uh, he came and got me from my house
6:18about
6:22say 7:00.
6:25>> Did y'all go anywhere else or just
6:27straight down to the Waffle House? Now
6:29I'm off and then I do the false house
6:33was on the way home. Okay.
6:36So come down and meet the girls. What
6:38happened after that?
6:42>> Nothing much. We met the girls ate left
6:45and went home.
6:47>> Okay. So y'all met the girls ate at
6:50Waffle House
6:51>> and then y'all left and was just driving
6:53home when y'all were stopped.
6:55>> Yeah. The first That's the first time we
6:57got We didn't get stopped. When we came
6:59back out here, we was bringing somebody
7:00clothes and it was a fight.
7:03>> Okay. So, y'all went with girls earlier.
7:06>> Mhm. [clears throat]
7:07>> Left and then came back to Waffle House.
7:09Okay.
7:12What y'all come back to Waffle House
7:14for?
7:14>> Cuz somebody left their clothes in their
7:16car was bringing a bath.
7:19>> True.
7:21I don't know. I It's not I don't know.
7:23He was just in his car. He was like, "We
7:25got to go take these clothes back." I
7:27wasn't going to ride at first cuz I was
7:28sleepy, but I ain't going to let him go
7:30by himself.
7:34>> Just like random clothes or like a bag
7:36of clothes or something.
7:37>> No, it wasn't uh it was somebody's shoes
7:39and backpack.
7:40>> Shoes and backpack,
7:41>> jacket,
7:43sweatpants. It's like they a whole
7:45attire to bring to the beach. So they
7:48they left.
7:48>> So someone that was with y'all earlier
7:51or something, right?
7:52>> Yeah. Okay.
7:54So, we're bringing that back. Were they
7:56there when y'all showed up or?
8:00Yeah.
8:03What they look like? Light skin. Light
8:05skin.
8:07Do you remember what they were wearing?
8:09>> No, sir.
8:12Check.
8:14So, what happened after that?
8:17>> Uh, the fight. Heard a loud noise and we
8:19left. How
8:21>> was the fight over?
8:22>> I don't know.
8:24You don't know?
8:24>> No, sir.
8:25>> Who was the fight between?
8:27>> I can't tell you. I don't know.
8:29>> You don't know?
8:29>> No, sir.
8:32>> Okay. A loud noise. What do you mean a
8:34loud noise?
8:35>> Just a loud noise.
8:38>> Okay.
8:50So cold, man.
9:10Now is your time to to try to get ahead
9:12of all this and talk to us openly and
9:16honestly
9:17about everything that happened and stuff
9:19like that.
9:21That's all I know, sir.
9:23>> But you don't know who the fight was
9:25between or where did it happen? Like the
9:29fight happened at the back of the war
9:30house.
9:32Okay. Were you back there or where were
9:33you at?
9:34>> Yeah, I walked I walked to watch it but
9:35they never in fault. It just
9:37>> How many people were fighting?
9:38>> There was like four back there.
9:42>> Do you know who any of the four people
9:44were?
9:44>> All I know is credit. I literally It's
9:45all like Thomas Paner I think. I don't
9:48know.
9:48>> So just four random people fighting.
9:50>> They wasn't fighting. It was like two
9:52people to fight. It was four people back
9:53there in total.
9:55>> Okay. Were they with you and
9:58>> No.
9:59>> So y'all just came together? y'all too
10:01just to bring the clothes back.
10:03>> And then when y'all were bringing the
10:05clothes back, you saw four other people
10:08fighting and chose to
10:10go back there like already walking back
10:13there. So we decided to walk back there.
10:16I didn't know this was going on. We
10:18walked back to the car.
10:20>> The fights happen. Y'all go back to the
10:22car. What happens after that?
10:30Like I said, the loud noise
10:32>> where that hap where was that happen?
10:36>> I can't really tell you honestly. I
10:38don't It kind of all happened fast as we
10:40was getting into the car.
10:41>> Mhm.
10:42>> Watch each other fast.
10:45I just know when they went down, KJ ran.
10:48I thought he had got hurt. So, I had
10:51tried to look for him, but once I
10:53noticed he was okay, we just got in the
10:54car and left cuz it had nothing to do
10:57with us.
10:59So none of this had anything to do with
11:01y'all?
11:01>> No sir.
11:02>> Y'all just got
11:04stopped randomly and
11:05>> Yeah, cuz Yeah. Well, I heard somebody
11:08screaming that's the red car. So I mean
11:09nobody got stopped.
11:10>> Mhm.
11:12>> Do you understand like the the business
11:14has surveillance cameras?
11:16>> Yeah.
11:16>> And all the surrounding businesses have
11:18surveillance cameras. Like it's probably
11:20one of the most
11:22digitally surveiled spots on the entire
11:25Panama City Beach
11:27>> cuz spring break and all the other stuff
11:29that happens around there. So
11:32we know it involved you. You're not up
11:35here by chance.
11:38Okay?
11:41We know there was altercation that
11:42involved you.
11:51And I know you're scared
11:54right here and you probably past couple
11:56hours you probably been running through
11:58your mind thinking of everything.
12:02But
12:04lying to us isn't going to help a
12:07situation out. Okay.
12:10>> Yes, sir.
12:11>> So, we've talked to a bunch of people
12:13already involved, people that's
12:14witnessed it.
12:16people that were involved in it.
12:20And like I said, we we see what's
12:23happened, okay? All the video
12:25surveillance we've looked at, but
12:29there's more than what you're leading
12:32on. It's not four other random people.
12:36Okay?
12:39So, if you want to talk to us about it,
12:42I'll sit here and listen and figure out
12:44what happened.
12:46So,
12:49I don't think this was any
12:52intended situation. I think things got
12:56out of hand very quickly.
13:04So, what happened?
13:06I told you my story. I was literally I
13:09don't know how would it have involved
13:10me.
13:13Jaziah, you're 18.
13:19Don't throw your life away over
13:20something stupid.
13:22>> I'm not trying to throw my life,
13:23>> but we know it involves you. He's
13:25already told you it's on video, man.
13:28>> Yeah, but no, I mean, I didn't do
13:30anything.
13:33Okay.
13:36>> Where were you riding that in the
13:37vehicle?
13:39The Camaro.
13:42on the way. Front seat,
13:45>> front passenger, and then
13:47>> back seat.
13:48>> He was driving
13:50your buddy.
13:51>> Yeah.
13:57>> So, y'all get there.
14:00Y'all go to the trunk of the vehicle.
14:01What did you get out of the trunk of the
14:03vehicle?
14:03>> I was looking for my money on one of my
14:05other pair of shorts.
14:10Okay. So you don't get anything out?
14:12>> No, I end up putting it back because I
14:14had money on my pants.
14:15>> What were you looking for the money for?
14:18>> Cuz I was going to go inside.
14:22>> For what?
14:24We'll buy something.
14:27Okay.
14:28>> You already eaten though, right?
14:30>> You already eaten. And you didn't go
14:32inside
14:34cuz we know what was going on.
14:36>> Who were the other two guys that were
14:38with the girls?
14:39>> I don't know them. you don't know them
14:40at all. Okay?
14:44Cuz I'm hearing otherwise.
14:47I'm not saying you know them like super
14:50well, but
14:52other people are saying you know them.
14:58So you had no clue who they were.
15:09watch all go behind the building
15:10together. I told you I was just there to
15:13watch what's going on.
15:16>> So there was four people behind the
15:17building.
15:19>> There's way more now. It's like a whole
15:20lot of people that that's the people
15:22that supposed to be have something going
15:23on. I was just there watching. Me and K
15:26literally watching
15:30just watch y'all come running out from
15:32behind the building back to the car
15:34>> cuz we ain't want to do nothing they
15:36have going on. We going to watch you get
15:38there.
15:39>> We just wanted to see.
15:42We didn't want to get involved, so we
15:43just left.
15:53Why' they follow you back to the
15:55vehicle?
15:56>> I don't know.
15:58>> Well, what were they saying?
16:01>> I wasn't paying attention.
16:04>> So, some guys start following you.
16:05They're talking to you and you're not
16:07paying attention to what's going on. You
16:10just me.
16:13What happened out of the vehicle once
16:14you got back to the vehicle
16:18behind the car? Somebody pulled me
16:24and then heard other people yelling. The
16:28other two that walked me that was back
16:30there. They followed us as well.
16:33And then something happened.
16:37I guess I don't know what happened
16:38between them. I guess they were arguing
16:41between each other.
16:44But we had told one of the dudes, I
16:46guess Kadre, that's the clothes. He was
16:48trying to get the clothes to him.
16:51But when I opened the door to get the
16:52clothes from the dude tried to get into
16:54the seat
16:57and then I sat down. When I sat down,
17:00just heard a loud noise.
17:08So I don't know what happened. It just
17:09all happened fast. I thought I sat down.
17:13It was all bunched up. So I don't know
17:14who what happened. So just heard a loud
17:17noise and tried to jump over the seat.
17:22Were you out of the car or in my car?
17:24>> Inside the car.
17:25>> So you're sitting in the car. All this
17:28taking place, but you don't know what
17:29happened.
17:31Yeah, like yeah,
17:34I guess I don't know what can I say?
17:38Probably out of fear. I don't know. But
17:39I wasn't paying attention as in watching
17:41my surroundings when it was happening.
17:47What happened after we left?
17:51Got pulled over. We don't have any
17:53firearms, so that should show that we
17:56wasn't shooting or anything.
17:58>> Oh, don't worry. We have the firearms.
18:00Oh, I mean, so don't worry about that.
18:04>> Let's just show y'all then, though. We
18:05ain't do anything.
18:07>> Just uh
18:08we have firearms where y'all got rid of
18:10them.
18:12>> We didn't
18:13>> remember what he said about video.
18:15Listen, you It's time to stop, man. It
18:17It really is.
18:18>> You understand how like fingerprints,
18:20DNA evidence, all that stuff works.
18:22>> Your video surveillance
18:23>> only getting deeper. That's all you're
18:25doing is digging your hole deeper. We're
18:27trying to figure out clearly there's
18:30something going on between y'all and
18:31these other guys. We're trying to figure
18:34that out.
18:34>> We don't have anything going on
18:36>> then. But yet they just follow you to
18:38the car and yank you out of the car,
18:40>> but y'all don't have anything going. I
18:41don't know. Like I told you, I don't
18:42know why that came apart. We were
18:44supposed to go right there and watch
18:45them fight.
18:46>> We didn't get involved to it. So I don't
18:48know that made I don't know what
18:49happened that we didn't we not we didn't
18:51do anything wrong. We don't have any I
18:54didn't have any I didn't have a fire on
18:55me. Yeah, he did.
18:56>> No, I did not.
18:57>> He did.
18:58>> Kaja did not have one on him.
18:59>> Yeah, he did.
19:00>> He's admitted he had one on him. So, you
19:03want to keep going with that?
19:04>> I don't know what he can admit for
19:06himself, but I know me personally, I
19:07didn't have a fire on. If y'all made him
19:09say that he had one, that was him.
19:11>> We didn't make him say anything.
19:13>> I didn't have one, sir.
19:15I remember you play like that.
19:25What were you beefing with Julie about?
19:27I don't have no beef.
19:36>> See, that little nugget right there
19:38should let you know that we've
19:39interviewed other people and we know
19:42>> because certain questions that I ask you
19:44are going I'm already going to know the
19:45answer to before I ever ask them.
19:48>> I heard I mean I heard what she was
19:50questioning. So I don't know them
19:53though. So, I don't have any be I don't
19:54know how any of that is trying to get
19:56put onto me.
19:58>> That's fine.
20:01>> We don't have to sit in here right now.
20:05I I want to see what happened from your
20:08point of view. Like, what happened?
20:11What?
20:14But you're not giving us anything here.
20:16You're acting like you're not even
20:17involved. We're past that. Way past that
20:21down the road.
20:27You can keep acting like it didn't
20:28happen, but it happened.
20:30>> Okay,
20:33I understand that. But I'm not I didn't
20:36play a part in that. And y'all are
20:37trying to make seem like I was the
20:38criminal.
20:39>> You shot on me tonight.
20:40>> I did not shoot.
20:42>> You did? Yeah, I totally did.
20:45>> I don't You can shoot anybody.
20:47>> Jazelle,
20:49stop with the tough guy act. I'm not
20:51being a tough guy
20:52>> because you're 18 years old and you are
20:54literally throwing your life away at
20:56this point.
20:57>> I did not shoot anybody.
21:00>> It's like you really trying to make me
21:01convict myself by saying this.
21:02>> I'm not trying to make you convict
21:04anything. We already know. That's just
21:07it.
21:08>> So you're trying to say you going to use
21:09somebody else's word against mine
21:11because you going just cuz I'm not
21:13telling you what they're telling you. So
21:14I'm lying.
21:15>> Well, you're not telling us anything.
21:17You're saying you're not even involved.
21:18That you went there to get some food,
21:20return some clothes, and watch a fight
21:23from uninvolved people.
21:24>> I was there to return.
21:25>> You were involved in that fight. I was
21:28not fighting. I didn't fight nobody.
21:34I got grabbed
21:37>> for just some unexpected myself. I don't
21:39know why that came apart. I just
21:41defended myself. I If you would have
21:42seen the video, after I got grabbed, I
21:44pushed him off and he tried to get in
21:46the car.
21:47As I sat down, I got grabbed out of the
21:48car
21:51>> by two guys you have no idea who they
21:53are, you're not beefing with, no issues,
21:55no problems,
21:57follow you from behind waffle house to
21:58the car and just snatch you out of it. I
22:02don't know what I don't know what's
22:03their motive. I don't know what's going
22:05on.
22:14>> So, you're saying you didn't shoot? Who
22:16shot? I didn't pull no fire on. No.
22:18Well, who shot? I don't know. That's why
22:20everybody went to dispersion.
22:22But
22:24But you're defending yourself
22:27against these un for whatever reason.
22:30You don't know why these guys are,
22:34but you didn't.
22:36I don't know. This isn't enough.
22:44>> If you had a gun, you can see, you can
22:46go test. I You going to see it's not my
22:48fingerprints on any of those firearms.
22:51I didn't touch any firearms, man.
22:56I was simply out there just to have the
22:59Venus.
23:05Y'all came to meet those guys.
23:11>> No, he's not.
23:15>> Okay. So, they didn't come up and talk
23:17to y'all as soon as you got there?
23:20>> No.
23:21>> And then y'all go to your trunk, handle
23:23whatever business you were doing in your
23:24trunk, and then them come over and y'all
23:26all go behind the building together.
23:29That's not what happened.
23:32Yeah, I got my money at the trunk.
23:38>> Just a second ago, you didn't cuz you
23:40had money in your drink.
23:41>> No, I got my money out the trunk. I had
23:43to check one in the trunk to get my
23:44money out my shorts, but then the money
23:46was in my pants. So,
23:47>> you still got money on that table right
23:48there.
23:48>> Yeah. So, I'm on reset with exactly what
23:50I said. I checked the money in my pants.
23:52So, yeah, I was good. But I did go to
23:55Trump first to see if the money was in
23:56there because I had no shorts.
23:58>> Where'd you get the money out to buy?
24:00I'm going to buy something to drink.
24:04I never got to.
24:06>> But you immediately when you get done
24:08with the trunk, the other guys are
24:10waiting on you and you come over there
24:12and you all go behind the building
24:13together.
24:28We're not just making stuff up. Man, I
24:31mean,
24:33I'm telling you as is what video shows
24:37happen.
24:39Okay.
24:40>> Saddest part of it is, you know, we're
24:42not just making it up.
24:43>> No,
24:44I mean that sound right, but me shoot
24:47somebody part, that's that sound very
24:48fictional because I didn't shoot
24:50anybody, sir.
24:53>> I'm not saying you shot them
24:54intentionally.
24:56I think it was a struggle over a gun and
24:58it went off.
24:59I'm not saying that you intentionally
25:01with cold blood or malice shot anybody.
25:04I think y'all were struggling over a gun
25:06and it went off.
25:07>> It wasn't my gun.
25:08>> Somebody got I'm not saying it was your
25:09gun,
25:11but I'm saying that you had control of
25:13it. I already know that.
25:17>> I was just defending myself.
25:19>> Okay, then we need to hear that. Jazai,
25:21>> talk to us about it.
25:22>> Talk to us.
25:24>> I mean, he he just said it word for
25:26word. It's I didn't say word for word
25:29because I wasn't there. I told you what
25:30I think.
25:31>> But you But you have a good thought
25:33because that's basically
25:35>> Okay. Tell us that in your words.
25:38Let's start over again. Let's start from
25:40scratch and start fresh. Can we do that?
25:46I mean, but if I tell y'all that. I
25:48mean,
25:52>> you mean what?
25:56Is it the truth or is it another
25:58>> No, it's truth, but it's like
26:14I'm not supposed to be I'm not supposed
26:16to be around firearms. I don't I'm going
26:17to get in trouble regardless.
26:21But
26:21>> why are you not supposed to be around
26:22fire?
26:24>> Cuz my my
26:26We just got in trouble for this
26:27something like this. But it's like I
26:29ain't having nothing to do with this. We
26:32literally clothes you know Julian you
26:34can ask him his clothes and ask him
26:36where they at. You can tell you like
26:37that's his clothes.
26:40That's what I learned from Dre. Like
26:41that's them the Dre friends. I don't
26:42know them. I don't know. I don't hang
26:45out with them.
26:47So if we do hang out cuz of Dre
26:50because he's more the known. You see
26:52what kind of car I drive. I mean,
26:54everybody want to be around him.
26:56It was one of those situations. They
26:58just wanted to ride with him. I don't I
27:00guess it didn't cuz he didn't. He told
27:02him that he wasn't taking him back
27:03across the bridge.
27:05It was just a one-way ride for there.
27:07And they leave him there. I got to find
27:08a way back. I don't know if they agreed
27:10like I don't but he told him that before
27:12we went and got him though.
27:16As we're leaving, I don't know if they
27:17got mad about that.
27:19But you know, if you saw the camera, you
27:21will see who had a fire. I'm not going
27:22to say that, but the camera will show
27:24you. And snatched me out the car. He
27:28snatched me out the car. I was scared. I
27:30don't I ain't I don't know what was
27:31going to happen. Honestly,
27:35I thought I was going to get shot. So,
27:38when the loud noise went off, that's why
27:39I jumped over the seat. If you see in
27:41the camera, open the door cuz I thought
27:43I got shot.
27:48That doesn't explain how you ended up in
27:49possession of the gun. That did the
27:51shooting.
27:53I didn't have I didn't have possession
27:55of the gun when I did the shooting
27:59>> then. How are you defending yourself?
28:02>> Do you see the camera, sir?
28:04>> Mhm.
28:04>> I'm getting beat on for nothing. I
28:06literally ain't do nothing.
28:08So, I don't defend myself. I had to push
28:09him, man. All type of like
28:14you on the camera. You will see who has
28:15the fire on push out.
28:22I'm just saying I didn't have no firearm
28:25and I didn't shoot anybody and
28:28try to or nothing. Who has the firearm?
28:33>> I don't know. I don't know his name.
28:43What do you look like?
28:47Same person. The person described
28:54who you describe.
28:57He said a light-skinned person.
29:05What kind of firearm was it? I don't
29:07know.
29:20What happened with your firearm? I never
29:23had a firearm.
29:26Did Dre have a firearm?
29:31Since he said he did, I guess. I don't I
29:33didn't know.
29:34>> Do you know him to have a firearm? Have
29:36you seen him with one before?
29:39>> No.
29:45So it be it would be weird for him to
29:46say he had one cuz I never really seen
29:48him with one. That's why I assume that
29:49he didn't as well.
29:51Why would he be saying he's holding your
29:53firearm?
29:56>> I don't know.
30:11cuz believe me, he ain't trying to go
30:13down on this.
30:14>> Me either. I mean, it's like
30:18I I shouldn't go down for something like
30:19that, too. I hope
30:24you're not giving as much to work off of
30:27maybe that you
30:31don't know what to say. I didn't I just
30:33told you the truth. I mean, anything I
30:34had on to would be a little crazy, but
30:37>> No, you started to tell the truth and
30:39then you backed off on it.
30:44You absolutely started to remember my
30:47good thought that you said that I had.
30:49You started to tell the truth around
30:51that and then something spooked you and
30:54so you started backing off. Oh, I was I
30:55was pushed and that was defending
30:57myself. No, no, man. You had the gun.
31:01You shot it. And the more of this we do,
31:04the more it looks like.
31:07Maybe it was what you wanted to do. And
31:09that's why you really don't want to talk
31:10about it. Because I can tell you this,
31:13if accident or I was defending myself or
31:17I didn't know the gun had a hair trigger
31:19or it just went off in the melee of all
31:21this going on. I'm telling somebody
31:23something other than I I I I I didn't
31:28have a gun. I I didn't shoot a gun. I
31:29Let me tell you this. I What's your
31:32criminal history? I don't think I You
31:35ever been arrested?
31:38Yeah.
31:38>> [ __ ] a day.
31:39>> For for what?
31:41pay like school charges like
31:44>> disrupting a school function or
31:46something.
31:47>> Okay, I can tell you this from sitting
31:49here watching you answer these
31:51questions. I can tell that you're not a
31:54bad kid.
31:57You're not. You may want to you may want
31:59to appear as though for your clothing
32:02line or whatever, you know, like all the
32:04rappers do that are from Stanford,
32:05Connecticut, but they have to act like
32:07they're something they're not. You may
32:09want to appear that way. You're not
32:10You're not that kidding.
32:12Okay. But buddy, you're fixing to ruin
32:15your life [snorts] over this. And if
32:18there's some other story, if there's
32:20some other something, if there's more to
32:23it, if there's a beef that you were
32:26legitimately concerned for yourself, if
32:28the gun accidentally went off, I don't
32:30know.
32:32But Josiah, you need to be telling us
32:35that.
32:36>> And not this whole I I didn't have a
32:39gun. I I didn't I didn't touch a gun. I
32:41Your DNA is going to come back in.
32:43Absolutely. 100%.
32:46We know where you dumped the gun at.
32:49We've got it.
32:50>> I didn't dump it.
32:53It So, it's basically trying to seem
32:56like you're trying to say I You said I'm
32:58I shot a person, but
32:59>> you did.
33:00>> If I didn't have a firearm, how did I
33:02shoot him?
33:03>> You had Because you had a firearm.
33:04>> I didn't.
33:05>> You did.
33:08That's That's just it.
33:09>> So, how many how many firearms are you
33:11trying to say it was there?
33:14>> You tell me. How many firearms were
33:15there?
33:16>> No, sir. Because you're not You're
33:17trying to say that I did it that you're
33:19getting off on the wrong I didn't do
33:21anything.
33:23>> They're still in the office.
33:32>> He sees I walk in with some pictures and
33:34he's going to show you. Now, normally I
33:36don't do this, but I want to show you
33:38that I'm not lying to you. I'm not
33:40making crap up. I'm not s I don't I
33:43don't I don't sit in these rooms and
33:45lie. It doesn't get me anywhere.
33:49Okay, we told you off the rip, off the
33:52jump video.
33:55That should be like I may want to get
33:57ahead of this,
33:59but what do you do?
34:01Wouldn't
34:03me
34:05It wasn't me. I don't know what
34:07happened,
34:09dude. We're We literally don't have to
34:12be sitting here right now. Do you
34:14understand that?
34:17That's how he held up you are, Jazia. We
34:20don't have to be sitting here right now.
34:21>> Well, how am I?
34:22>> You're 18 years old. We're trying to get
34:26to your perspective of what happened.
34:32I'm not hemmed up if I was the one
34:34getting
34:36>> because you're also the one that had the
34:38gun. That's what's got you hemmed up.
34:41>> I didn't if Dre So if Dre told you he
34:44had a gun, so why is he not like
34:46>> Dre's sitting right down there?
34:48>> So I'm saying though, like why are you
34:50trying to make I'm just a criminal? I
34:51didn't have a firearm though.
34:53>> But you didn't.
34:55That's just it. I didn't
34:59cuz if I gave Dre my firearm, who
35:01firearm would I have?
35:02>> I realize the question.
35:05Where' the second one come from?
35:07>> It wasn't the second one was hurt.
35:09That's what I'm saying.
35:10>> Okay. So, when he walks in here with
35:11these pictures,
35:13okay,
35:24that's what I'm saying. That's all the
35:25reason I wanted the pictures. Just to
35:26show you that I'm not lying to you.
35:34>> We know you had beef with Julian already
35:36over a gun.
35:40>> Wow. We have
35:41>> Yeah, we know that.
35:44Yeah, we know it. I could see the
35:46reaction in your face, Jaz. I when I
35:48said it, I could see the reaction in
35:50your face immediately before you ever
35:52turned your head to me. Your reaction
35:55was immediate
35:58>> cuz that's something wild. I don't have
36:00any beef. Why would I be over fire?
36:03Maybe because it got taken from you.
36:11That's what I'm that's that's what I'm
36:12saying, dude. Like you are you are
36:16in a bad way right now. And we're
36:19literally sitting here trying to figure
36:21out was this some premeditated thing
36:24that he went out there meaning he was
36:26going to shoot my man?
36:27>> No.
36:28>> Or would something happen inside the
36:31car?
36:33>> I told you I was I didn't expect him to
36:35do that as I was getting into the car.
36:37>> Okay, I got it. We're We need to go like
36:39a step past that to when the gun goes
36:42off. That's what we need to know. Jaz,
36:45>> it was like I told there was two of them
36:47right there. a lot going on and I just
36:51knew
36:55I was pushing Julian
36:58and when I fell into the car
37:03everybody was just grabbing and stuff
37:07loud noise and I was like I told you I
37:09mean that's more clear I don't know like
37:12nobody aim anything I didn't see nobody
37:13pull out a gun it just a whole lot of
37:15grabbing and that's people cuz I kept
37:17hearing Somebody tell him to get up.
37:19Come on, just leave him alone. We were
37:21trying to leave. Like we literally just
37:22trying to leave. We just got in the car.
37:25Like as you can see, we ain't getting we
37:26ain't say nothing. We just getting in
37:28the car and leaving.
37:30So his friend was telling him to leave.
37:32And I guess
37:34when I heard the loud noise go off, we
37:36left.
37:40We don't know like we don't know what
37:41happened, but we just leaving.
37:46>> What you get out of the car for? I feel
37:47a loud noise
37:49>> looking for Kajger. I told you that when
37:50I jumped on the scene, I didn't see
37:52Kajger. I had looked up. I looked I got
37:53out of the car looking for him. Make
37:54sure he wasn't hurt.
37:56>> What was he doing?
37:58>> He ran. I mean I mean I I would expect
38:01him to too cuz it was a loud noise. So
38:03he ran. Only reason I didn't run because
38:05I was right there. So I don't know. I I
38:07didn't really know where the shot come
38:08from. So I just stayed in the car and
38:10jumped over the seat.
38:11>> But it came from out of your hand.
38:13>> No, it didn't.
38:14>> Yeah. But it did. That's there in lies
38:16the problem is it did. That's the issue.
38:20>> I didn't notice I
38:21>> buddy listen
38:24you're not
38:26a seasoned criminal.
38:28>> You're not criminal.
38:29>> You're not That's what I'm saying.
38:31You're I'm I'm going somewhere here.
38:34Okay. You're not the guy that can sit in
38:37this room and not be truthful and it not
38:40be plainly evident all over you that
38:44you're not being truthful. You're not
38:46that guy.
38:48Okay? I don't want to see an 18-year-old
38:51kid turned into that guy
38:56if there's a piece of this
39:00that we don't know. your perception of
39:02it.
39:04Was it an accident? Did it accidentally
39:07go off? That's what I'm trying to get
39:09at. I'm not here Jazai. I'm not here to
39:14say, "Was it Jazai?
39:17Did Jaziah have it? Did I'm not here for
39:20that. I'm past that. We've moved on from
39:23there.
39:24We've done more interviews than you can
39:26count tonight. We've got video evidence.
39:29I'm not here for that part. Does that
39:32make sense? I'm here to figure out when
39:36you heard the loud noise, which I think
39:38we both can call a gunshot,
39:42what was going on. I'm not here to hear
39:45you say, "I didn't have a gun." I'm not
39:47here to hear you say, "I didn't I didn't
39:49pull the trigger." Because whether it
39:51was voluntary or involuntary,
39:54okay,
39:54>> those are so necessarily I didn't pull
39:57the trigger.
39:58>> Okay. But you had the gun.
40:00>> Oh, I did.
40:00>> Yes, you did. Jazai. That's the problem.
40:04That's the issue. You absolutely did.
40:13What' you pick up off the ground after
40:14you got out of the car? When he started
40:15backing out, you got out and you went
40:16and picked something up off the ground.
40:22>> No, I don't remember. I've been here for
40:23so long.
40:25>> Well, it was only a couple hours ago,
40:26man. It's not like I mentioned something
40:27from 6 days ago.
40:33>> I think I was checking on his car.
40:36Did I pick anything? I don't think I
40:38picked something on his car.
40:39>> Yeah.
41:05Don't Don't scare yourself over this.
41:11>> Don't
41:16little while ago you started to say you
41:17were going to you were defending
41:18yourself. Is that what happened? I mean,
41:21clearly they have a video. You can see
41:22it.
41:23>> Okay.
41:24>> I'm talking about with the gun.
41:25>> I didn't have a gun.
41:42Did
41:42>> you recognize that again?
41:44>> No.
41:45>> You've never seen that before?
41:47>> No.
41:53What about this?
41:57No. It has a ting
42:01bottom to the magazine.
42:03>> Oh, sure. Never never seen that one
42:06either.
42:11>> You realize this isn't going to play
42:12well when your DNA comes back on them,
42:14right?
42:16This isn't going to look good to anybody
42:19when your DNA comes back on those guns.
42:21Desai
42:22>> on those guns.
42:23>> Mhm.
42:25>> They're not going to plural those guns.
42:27>> Plural. It's going to come back on both
42:29of those guns. And you know it is
42:32>> I don't like how you trying to make me a
42:33criminal.
42:34>> I'm not trying to make you a criminal.
42:35I'm trying to get to the truth of what
42:37happened today. That's all I'm trying to
42:39do. That's it. I'm sure K told you the
42:41truth.
42:42>> Yeah.
42:44is if you if you want us to go off what
42:46Kandre said, then that's what we'll do.
42:48And you know what? It hoses you.
42:51It screws you.
42:54But if you want us to go off what he
42:56said and you want to say that what he
42:57said is the truth, cool. I can go home
43:00and get some sleep.
43:02So, is that the way you want to play
43:04this?
43:06>> I don't I don't understand what you want
43:08from me.
43:09>> The truth. The truth. That's all we've
43:11been asking. I just told you. Was one of
43:13these guns stolen from me?
43:18>> Oh, sir.
43:30Cuz it sounds I'm hearing otherwise. But
43:34that's why we're talking to you.
43:36>> What do you hear?
43:38>> That you might have been trying to get
43:39your property back.
43:44I was just trying to go home.
43:48Like you said before, I don't think you
43:50intended
43:52for this to happen the way it happened,
43:55okay? But you're not talking to us
43:58because I don't
43:59>> You're not telling us the truth. You're
44:01you're minimizing things and you're
44:03you're trying to act like it didn't
44:05happen. And the fact is it it happened.
44:08There's no magic wand you can wave and
44:11make it disappear.
44:12>> I understand that, but I'm not I didn't
44:15play the role that y'all think I did
44:17shoot. I didn't shoot anybody.
44:22>> I don't know what happened with the
44:24trust, but I know I didn't pull no I
44:25didn't have I didn't pull no gun out and
44:28cuz if I did I would have did that when
44:29I was getting pulled.
44:30>> I never said you pulled that out. I
44:31never said you pulled a gun out. Never
44:33said that.
44:34>> I would have did that when I got pulled.
44:35pretty much forgot I pushed outside of
44:37the car in pull. I would have pulled a
44:40gun out then. I never had a gun to pull
44:42out at that moment.
44:45>> At that moment.
44:46>> Yes. So when I got in the car and sat
44:49down, he had one his jacket
44:54like he was holding it
45:00and I don't know what what made him so
45:04angry about the situation, but he didn't
45:06like that we was going to leave, I
45:08guess.
45:12But he literally told him before we came
45:14there like he wasn't taking them back
45:16home.
45:21But I never fought anybody. I don't know
45:22about No, it's all I was fighting
45:24indication that was not me. I was not
45:25fighting.
45:25>> You're the one that said that we need to
45:27believe him. What he said was the truth.
45:29>> So who was fighting? If you're saying
45:31you're not fighting and they're mad at
45:33him, why are they following you back to
45:36the car?
45:37>> What I'm saying? I'm I don't like I
45:38don't
45:39>> They're not even dealing with him.
45:42It's like he's not at the fire. Like
45:44it's crazy. Like I didn't even like I
45:46don't know. I I really don't know.
45:48>> And I'm hearing something about like
45:49y'all were going to swap guns or
45:51something like that. What's What's that
45:53about?
45:54>> No, we wasn't. And I was going to swap.
45:56If Kre had my supposedly firearm, how am
45:58I going to swap a gun?
46:00>> I don't know. Tell me.
46:01>> Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
46:02>> You think people are making stuff up?
46:04>> That's not true.
46:04>> You think people are trying to throw you
46:06under the bus of all people? Like
46:08>> that's basically what's going on. I
46:09mean,
46:09>> why?
46:10>> I don't know. I mean, I don't know. I
46:12can't I can't answer that. But I'm I can
46:14tell you I did not. And now it's not
46:17>> But I can tell you the video shows them
46:19having a problem with you. They're not
46:22concerned about him.
46:24>> That's the I don't
46:25>> They're not concerned about anyone
46:26except for you.
46:28>> And I literally didn't have nothing.
46:30That's the problem.
46:32>> It looks like they're trying to talk to
46:35you or something. They're not like
46:36swinging on you right off the bat or
46:39anything.
46:42Only one person was talking to me.
46:46But you can't even remember what they
46:48said. No, I don't. Like it was like it
46:51was all the blood. Like they wouldn't
46:52say nothing for me to that stand out for
46:54me to remember. Honestly,
46:57I really don't like
47:02so much went on those conversations last
47:05night in my mind.
47:14And you're acting like this gun's not
47:16yours. You're saying that's not yours?
47:45I'm still answering that question.
47:48>> Is this gun yours?
47:49>> No.
47:52>> Why would other people be saying it is?
47:55>> I don't know.
47:58You say country had it on him.
48:02thought he was holding it for you. Yeah.
48:04I won't have nobody else holding my gun.
48:10Okay.
48:15Why?
48:17So, he's just making that up.
48:19>> I mean, obviously, some seem like people
48:22just trying to throw charges on me.
48:26>> Okay. I mean, he's admitting to a bunch
48:29of different stuff.
48:35So, that leads me to think he's telling
48:37the truth.
48:39And he's 18. He's admitting to holding
48:42it, carrying it,
48:45tossing the bushes.
48:49He knows he's going to get in trouble
48:51for that.
49:00But I didn't toss in the bushes.
49:07Did you toss anything? Anything anywhere
49:09else?
49:11After I looked for Dre, I got back in
49:13the car.
49:15>> What' you toss out the window of his
49:17car?
49:19When y'all pulled around afterwards,
49:21y'all pull around the business to the
49:23other side.
49:27What'd you throw out the window?
49:35I don't remember. You do remember.
49:39Trying to cry. I know.
49:43You're just afraid to say it.
49:47What am I afraid to say?
49:49what she threw out the window.
49:51>> I didn't
49:53Okay,
49:55come on.
49:56>> If you want to keep doing this and going
49:58down this path, it's fine. We don't have
50:00to waste our time.
50:00>> You are literally getting in deeper and
50:02deeper and deeper and deeper and deeper
50:04water.
50:05>> I mean,
50:06>> and the problem is once it gets so deep,
50:08you start running out of the ability to
50:11keep yourself above the water.
50:13>> What?
50:14>> Right now, you are getting swallowed up,
50:16my man.
50:17I can see the cogs turning. You're
50:19you're trying to find a way out.
50:21>> I mean, I find
50:22>> And the only
50:24way out of it is talk to us. Tell us the
50:26truth. What happened?
50:29>> Did you It was some mistakes made maybe,
50:33but that's a huge difference in like
50:35what we're seeing right now and going
50:37into and you're not telling us anything,
50:40>> right?
50:41>> Don't do anything illegal. I don't know
50:42why I would be coming in here
50:44incriminating myself like I did.
50:46I don't feel like what I did was illegal
50:51as in leaving after a loud noise or
50:54getting out the car to find Kaj.
50:57Even if I did throw something out
50:59window, it wasn't like nothing was mine.
51:01Like [clears throat]
51:02I'm not saying it's yours.
51:04>> So like I didn't feel like I was playing
51:06a part in anything because nothing was
51:08mine.
51:09>> But you're acting like it didn't happen.
51:13Did you throw the gun out the window?
51:41>> Yes, sir. Everybody wasn't mine.
51:43>> Okay,
51:45we're getting somewhere. So, after the
51:47altercation,
51:49gun went off. You still had the gun in
51:52the car.
51:52>> No, I was on the seat. I mean on the
51:54floor right there.
51:54>> On the floor. Okay. It falls in the
51:55floorboard. Y'all pull around.
51:59You see it down there. You obviously
52:01don't want them.
52:03So, we just I just
52:04>> She just tossed out. We're just going to
52:05leave it right here.
52:06>> Y'all left. Okay.
52:08>> Now, let's work back. What was the
52:11altercation over?
52:12>> I don't I can't tell you. I don't know.
52:16I told you they they wasn't acting like
52:17that at first.
52:18>> So, who had the gun on?
52:24>> That gun? The one you tossed out?
52:27>> Pretty sure
52:29I know it wasn't the dude in the white
52:31shirt.
52:34Lightkinned guy or darkkinned guy?
52:38light.
52:40>> So light-skinned guy had the gun.
52:45>> And he started fighting you.
52:47>> Yes.
52:51>> So when did the gun come out or come
52:53into play?
52:54>> I when we fell into the car and I was on
52:57the top of in the seat.
52:59I thought I got shot. after I heard the
53:01noise, but I guess I didn't.
53:07It's like it was all happen so fast at
53:09that moment cuz I didn't want to fight
53:11cuz I I mean, who wasn't want to bring a
53:14bring your hands to a gunfight? I
53:15already knew obviously what was going to
53:17happen if I tried to fight.
53:19>> So, would y'all go behind the wall?
53:22>> Because I thought something else was
53:23going on back there. Like I thought I
53:24thought it was another fight, not us
53:26supposed to be participating in the
53:27fight.
53:28>> So, that's why we came back. If you all
53:30go back there, what happens back there
53:31when you're back there?
53:33>> Nothing. It was It was a conversation at
53:35first. We seen other people back there.
53:36That's what I thought the fight was. But
53:38after I noticed that it was nothing
53:40going on or progressing, I just told God
53:42to just leave.
53:45>> Well, why did y'all come running away
53:47from them?
53:49>> I don't know if we were running. I don't
53:50think we were running.
53:51>> You were.
53:53I don't I can't recall running.
53:55>> Well, you were. I'm telling you, you
53:56were. It's on video.
54:00He comes running first to the car.
54:02You're shortly behind him running to the
54:05car.
54:08Then after that,
54:13so yeah. Uh we had no reason to run
54:16there. Honestly, I probably that's just
54:17been I don't know. We just do a lot of
54:19stuff.
54:20>> Now the two guys were following you
54:22trying to looks like still talk to you
54:24or something.
54:28They're not concerned with him.
54:32So, what happened between you guys back
54:34there behind the
54:37Waffle House?
54:41It was supposed to be a fight, but it
54:43wasn't. So, we just A fight over what?
54:47I don't know what it was over. I know it
54:48was just supposed to be a fight and it
54:49never was. So, we just left like I told
54:52you. Okay.
54:53>> Well, there was something between you
54:54and those two guys. No, it wasn't.
54:57>> Well, why would they be following you
54:58back to the car and then start wrestling
55:01with you and stuff?
55:03>> Why?
55:04>> Like, why would any of that happened if
55:05they were back there trying to fight
55:07other people?
55:10>> You get what I'm saying? Like, they were
55:12concerned with you.
55:15>> Not him, not anyone else there.
55:17>> I don't understand why. I don't know why
55:19their focus was on me.
55:21>> But they all waited. They waited for
55:23you. Y'all all went back there together.
55:28>> They did not wheeling us there.
55:30>> Yeah, they hung out by their car or the
55:32girl's car.
55:33>> Yeah, that's why they were there. They
55:34had they had
55:34>> while while you and him handled what you
55:36needed to do in the trunk of your car.
55:40>> We didn't have none. We got I got my
55:41money and we got from the trunk. And as
55:43soon as y'all were done in the trunk,
55:47they come over and meet y'all and they
55:48all walk behind the the place together
55:51>> because like I said, Kadre did know
55:53them. So it's like they're not randoms
55:55to him. They're probably random to me
55:56though.
55:57>> Okay. But like there's no fighting.
55:59There's no nothing going on.
56:02>> I don't know what I don't know what made
56:04him get so aggressive.
56:05>> So like something happened behind Waffle
56:08House.
56:08>> I don't know what made him get so
56:09aggressive.
56:14Well, that's what I'm asking you. I just
56:15know you were back there and they were
56:17aggressive with you.
56:20>> So, whatever happened happened between
56:22you and them?
56:23>> Yeah, it was supposed to be like I told
56:25you, it was supposed to be a fight and I
56:26didn't.
56:28>> But why would they want to fight you or
56:30why would you want to fight them?
56:31>> I didn't want to fight them. That's why
56:32I didn't.
56:37I didn't I don't want to be in violence
56:40isn't the key to everything. So I didn't
56:42I didn't want to fight
56:46and I simply told him that. So oh that's
56:50what happened. They just started calling
56:51me names cuz I didn't want to fight.
56:57And then as we get into the car he tried
56:58to like I told you his clothes in the
57:00back seat.
57:02So we're going to leave him with his
57:04clothes. I guess he grabbed me.
57:07to get in the back seat to get his
57:09clothes. But he didn't have to grab me
57:10cuz I was I was trying to get out and
57:12open. So, as you see when we first put
57:14out open the thing and try to tell him
57:15to get his clothes out.
57:21>> I mean, that's all.
57:22>> I mean, you're not tell It doesn't look
57:24like you're telling him anything. Looks
57:26like he's trying to stop you from
57:27getting that car at first.
57:30>> I said when I first got there and I got
57:31out, we told him to get his clothes.
57:33That was like the first thing that
57:34happened. I point at the car said, "Get
57:36your clothes."
57:37>> Okay.
57:38>> But yeah, he was trying to stop me from
57:40getting that's why I think I don't know
57:41if he was trying to stop me from leaving
57:42so he don't get the clothes. I don't
57:44know why he wouldn't take the driver out
57:45and the passenger. But everybody likes
57:48Kyrie though. So I mean I guess he's the
57:51one with the car so nobody wants to get
57:53make their face bad with him.
58:07So, all this about a stolen gun or
58:10something? People are just making stuff
58:12up.
58:13>> Yeah, I don't know.
58:13>> That's what you're saying.
58:14>> I don't have I don't have no stolen gun.
58:18>> No, I'm saying that gun was stolen from
58:20you.
58:23>> Taken from you.
58:26>> No, sir.
58:28I I have
58:30no
58:30>> Okay,
58:32I'm asking you. I mean,
58:43does your buddy have a gun taken from
58:45hell
58:50>> that you know of? Not that I know of.
59:09They're cheap phones.
59:11What kind of phones were they? One uh my
59:14brother's phone. One's your brother's
59:16phone. Yeah.
59:18>> You just have it with you? Yeah.
59:21>> What kind of phone? Which one is yours?
59:24iPhone 13.
59:26>> iPhone 13.
59:29Which one is his? Let me
59:31>> iPhone 11. Is yours in the case or?
59:34>> Yeah, the case.
59:38I haven't seen them. Are they both in
59:40cases or just your
59:42>> Just mine? This is not his kind of
59:44crack.
59:46>> Why do you have his phone? Cuz he's in
59:48trouble right now. Okay.
59:55should just carry it around with you.
59:57[bell]
59:59[snorts]
59:59He asked me soon.
1:00:02Is there going to be anything concerning
1:00:04in your phone?
1:00:06Anything
1:00:08that that you lied to us about? Anything
1:00:10that
1:00:14pictures of these guns?
1:00:16Anything like that on the phone?
1:00:19>> No, sir. Anything about
1:00:22arguments between you and any of these
1:00:24guys or anything?
1:00:26>> No, sir.
1:00:27>> Nothing about you pre-planning to shoot
1:00:29them or anything like that?
1:00:30>> No, sir.
1:00:30>> Okay. Uh,
1:00:34this is the first time we're meeting, so
1:00:36I use people's phones and data and stuff
1:00:39like that to cooperate what what you
1:00:41told me or like what's not in there.
1:00:43Okay. Uh, like if you're saying neither
1:00:46of these guns are yours, you shouldn't
1:00:47have pictures of any of these guns. Does
1:00:50that make sense?
1:00:51>> So, uh, same thing if this isn't a
1:00:55pre-planned event or something, we
1:00:57shouldn't find any messages between you
1:00:58and Dre talking about going to shoot
1:01:02this guy or something.
1:01:03>> Definitely not.
1:01:04>> So, I'd like to look in your phone to
1:01:06cooperate some of the stuff you're
1:01:07saying. Uh,
1:01:10if you'll allow me to look into it, I'll
1:01:12bring it in here and we can look
1:01:14together. Okay.
1:01:16Do you have any issue with that?
1:01:21>> Can I call my mom?
1:01:23>> Can we call her afterwards? Once we're
1:01:25done here and stuff, I'll let you call
1:01:27your mom.
1:01:30So,
1:01:33is there a pass coming on the phone?
1:01:41Is there a passcode on your phone?
1:01:44>> Yeah, but if we're bringing here, can I
1:01:45do it?
1:01:48Yeah. I mean, we I got to fill out this
1:01:50form and stuff for and I'll read all
1:01:53this over to you. Okay.
1:02:02Grab them real quick. I'll be right
1:02:03back.
1:02:42>> [clears throat]
1:02:52>> the search warrant and collect your DNA.
1:02:53Okay. All it is is a swab on the inside
1:02:56of your cheek. You got any cavities?
1:02:58Anything like that?
1:02:59>> No, not that.
1:03:00>> Okay. Have a bad teeth?
1:03:02>> I thought
1:03:04it's literally a cotton swab on the side
1:03:06of your cheek. So,
1:03:09one thing instead of giving anybody
1:03:11issues if they did have cavity or
1:03:13something like that
1:03:16mouth them.
1:03:20I'll flip them over and do it again.
1:03:5510:30
1:04:35I'm sorry about that. You good? So cold.
1:04:50Here
1:05:02it comes.
1:05:04Sit tight for me.
1:05:06>> Yes, sir.
1:05:51This is your phone. Correct. when you
1:05:53were talking about last.
1:05:54>> Huh? It's
1:05:55>> Cadre.
1:05:56>> This is Cadre's. What yours look like?
1:06:00>> Black case.
1:06:03>> Huh?
1:06:04>> Black case as well. My other my brother
1:06:07phone doesn't have a case on it. You
1:06:08don't see.
1:06:09>> Okay.
1:06:10>> Does yours have like a background
1:06:11picture or something?
1:06:13>> It has the other case on there. It's
1:06:14only two phones with cases on it.
1:06:15>> Yeah, but like what's your background on
1:06:17your phone?
1:06:17>> My brother's baby.
1:06:20Okay.
1:06:29I think they took out the case already.
1:06:30What color is the phone?
1:06:32>> Gold. Uh, gold. Rose gold.
1:06:36That phone.
1:06:47Let me read this form over real quick to
1:06:50you.
1:06:52You are being informed by myself,
1:06:54Detective Calfidel, Police Officer of
1:06:55the Penalt City Beach Police Department,
1:06:56having any constitutional right not to
1:06:58have a search made and or have evidence
1:07:01seized from you without a search warrant
1:07:03and haven't been told of your right to
1:07:05refuse such a search and seizure, you
1:07:08hereby authorize the Panama City Beach
1:07:10Police Department to conduct.
1:07:11>> So, I don't have to do this.
1:07:12>> No, you don't have to. This will allow
1:07:14me to to cooperate what you're saying
1:07:16and show that there's not like this
1:07:19isn't a pre-planned kind of thing. You
1:07:23don't have to show show me it.
1:07:26>> Well, I don't have to. Well, I haven't
1:07:29talked to my mom. I need to see how my
1:07:30mom feels about the
1:07:32>> Okay. Well, you're an adult right now,
1:07:35so this is
1:07:37>> I don't want to do it, so I told my mom.
1:07:39>> Okay, that's fine.
1:07:43Do you know her number?
1:07:49Don't know her number sponge.
1:08:00Do you want me to get her number from
1:08:01this? So, unfortunately, I can't give
1:08:04you the phone, but you can constrain
1:08:07consent. Like if you just want me to get
1:08:09her number out, I can. I can't look
1:08:11through anything else. Okay. That
1:08:13violates your constitutional rights. But
1:08:16if you want me to get her put the
1:08:17password in.
1:08:18>> Huh?
1:08:19>> Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I have to sit here
1:08:22while you do it.
1:08:25>> I want you to get her number out of
1:08:26there.
1:08:29I don't want you
1:08:41what she saved us. Mom
1:08:58number two. No.
1:09:04Where are you?
1:09:38So, have you thought about what was
1:09:39going on? T
1:09:48I left off to what that said. That was
1:09:50pretty much
1:09:52Well, what do you want to talk to us
1:09:54about what actually happened? I mean, I
1:09:57feel like we're getting there. I mean,
1:10:00you're opening up a little more about
1:10:01the gun and tossing out the window and
1:10:04stuff like that.
1:10:05>> Afterwards and stuff,
1:10:08>> stuff's still not making sense
1:10:11earlier. Like, it's not matching up what
1:10:13the video shows and what other people
1:10:15are saying happened.
1:10:18So,
1:10:19>> how can they tell you about something he
1:10:20wasn't a part of?
1:10:24He was a part of it. Well, if he's
1:10:26saying something, I hope. But the other
1:10:29guy was a part of it. What other guy?
1:10:34>> The uh white skin guy. I mean, he
1:10:38shouldn't have much to say. He's the
1:10:43He's talking to us more than you're
1:10:44talking to us.
1:10:47He's a criminal. I don't know like how
1:10:49he can be so cooperative if he's the
1:10:51criminal.
1:10:54Okay. Well, I mean, you're saying he's a
1:10:56criminal?
1:10:58>> I'm pretty sure Dre said it as well.
1:11:00>> You don't think he's saying the
1:11:01opposite?
1:11:02>> How can he say the opposite if he has
1:11:04the firearm with him?
1:11:07>> Okay. Well, there's two firearms in
1:11:10play. I mean,
1:11:11>> if Dre say he supposedly had mine, so
1:11:13that mean that leaves me firearmless.
1:11:15There's only two firearms in the other.
1:11:17I mean, he said he was holding yours for
1:11:20the fight.
1:11:24Unless we fire them. I have no
1:11:27>> But then there's this whole thing about
1:11:30a stolen gun or like the the gun was
1:11:33taken from someone and
1:11:36the this whole thing was a setup
1:11:43by who? Huh? By y'all to get the gun
1:11:46back. No.
1:11:53No.
1:11:55I mean, what happened? Were y'all trying
1:11:56to Were you trying to buy the gun from
1:11:58him?
1:12:01>> No, he he he didn't do any business with
1:12:04us. That's not We're not No.
1:12:08I think you're mixing two different like
1:12:10I'm pretty sure if he's telling he tra
1:12:12he's not talking about us cuz he bought
1:12:14a gun for somebody else and traded to
1:12:15him. Who did? The person you're talking
1:12:18about,
1:12:20you didn't get anything from me.
1:12:24>> Wait, I'm confused. Who bought the gun
1:12:26from you?
1:12:27>> You're trying to You said Julian said
1:12:29that.
1:12:30>> I'm not saying Julian said that.
1:12:32>> Well, that I mean, you did say
1:12:34>> a witness said that. Another witness.
1:12:38>> Oh, well, I don't know if it wasn't
1:12:40Julian. I don't know because I don't
1:12:42know.
1:12:44They're saying that there's this ongoing
1:12:47beef kind of between you guys over some
1:12:50stuff.
1:12:51>> How would it be? It's not. It couldn't
1:12:52been no beef because Kadre br him out
1:12:54there. They called Kajre to come get
1:12:56him.
1:12:56>> Were you with them?
1:12:58>> No, I was with Kadre.
1:12:59>> When that happened when Kadre brought
1:13:01brought him out there, were you with
1:13:03them?
1:13:03>> Yeah.
1:13:04>> So, y'all were all four in that car?
1:13:07>> Yeah. You came out there together?
1:13:08>> What time y'all dropped them off
1:13:10originally?
1:13:12>> It was at the house.
1:13:15like daytime, night time, like how long
1:13:18before y'all came back to the wall
1:13:19files?
1:13:21Um
1:13:25about an hour later, we had forgot about
1:13:27that the clothes in there. We like I
1:13:29said, I wasn't going to go back at
1:13:30first, but I didn't want to have my I
1:13:32didn't want to leave out there alone.
1:13:34So, I went back and plus the girls are
1:13:36still there.
1:13:38>> Mhm. So, we was going back for the
1:13:40females and plus giving him his clothes
1:13:42and the females is going to come meet us
1:13:44there, too. So, we're just going to
1:13:46continue where we left off from earlier.
1:13:51I just don't see how that progressed
1:13:55to a fight. Me either. Y'all were
1:13:57hanging out. Everything's good
1:14:02up until y'all walk behind
1:14:06the Waffle House for a pretty brief
1:14:09period of time
1:14:12and you and Cadre came running back to
1:14:14the car and that's when everything kind
1:14:17of pops out. Something happened back
1:14:19there.
1:14:22I can't remember.
1:14:28I think you do remember.
1:14:30>> Okay. So, can you help me?
1:14:32>> I can help you. I want to hear from you.
1:14:34>> I don't I don't I have no idea.
1:14:44I'm very sleepy.
1:14:53Put your mommy I think and talk to her.
1:14:58I mean, she going to be upset just cuz
1:14:59my brother going through the same thing
1:15:01at the moment.
1:15:03I mean, but when she sees
1:15:05here's everything, she won't know. Yeah.
1:15:07It wasn't like don't even sound like me.
1:15:17I just hope right. I don't get
1:15:20something.
1:15:33So when he came running, when y'all were
1:15:35getting ready to leave, so
1:15:39the shooting happened,
1:15:42Cadre jumps out the car and starts
1:15:44running.
1:15:46You run after him. What happened back
1:15:49behind Waffle House then?
1:15:52>> I told him, "Come on. He came on.
1:15:54>> Did you see him throw the other gun?
1:15:56>> No. Extend the mag.
1:15:59>> I didn't see either.
1:16:00>> Y'all went back to the car. He jumps in
1:16:02the driver's seat. He starts driving.
1:16:05You tell him to wait or something like
1:16:07that. And you run around the car and
1:16:10grab something off off the ground.
1:16:13What' you pick up?
1:16:18I don't know. I I think he's holding you
1:16:20cuz when he jumped out, I think he said
1:16:21he dropped something.
1:16:23So he told me check and when I checked I
1:16:27went nothing there. So I just got back
1:16:28in the car.
1:16:29>> What's something you picked something
1:16:30up?
1:16:31>> I don't think I did.
1:16:32>> I can tell you 100% you did.
1:16:36>> So if you can tell what did I feel
1:16:37today?
1:16:38>> I'm asking you to see if you're going to
1:16:41be honest about
1:16:43you're just going to go to sleep.
1:16:45>> I'm done talking. I'm not honest. Like I
1:16:48don't I
1:16:50>> Well, we're dealing with a very serious
1:16:52situation here. Okay.
1:16:54>> I just want to go home.
1:16:56>> I understand that.
1:17:00>> You understand? Like what I'm help what
1:17:02I'm saying isn't like you're not taking
1:17:04it, you know? So like I don't know if I
1:17:06need to disagree.
1:17:07>> I am, but some of the stuff you're
1:17:09directly saying doesn't match up with
1:17:11video evidence that proves otherwise.
1:17:15>> Oh no. I have to see the video. I I've
1:17:18been like it's it was like a lot going
1:17:20on.
1:17:21>> Mhm.
1:17:22>> I don't remember everything.
1:17:24>> Oh, but I mean you can remember all this
1:17:26stuff, but when we get to difficult
1:17:28positions,
1:17:30you start acting like you don't
1:17:31remember.
1:17:32>> I mean, cuz you want to remember every
1:17:34little detail and everything.
1:17:38>> Okay. I mean, we're talking about
1:17:39something that just happened a couple
1:17:40hours ago. I don't been to sleep, you
1:17:43know. This is, you know,
1:18:07whenever we going home. Huh? Whenever we
1:18:09go home.
1:18:12Wait, are you going home?
1:18:14>> Yeah.
1:18:16>> Probably not for a little while.
1:18:20What up?
1:18:26Cuz this whole situation doesn't look
1:18:28good right now.
1:18:31Okay.
1:18:32>> That's true.
1:18:33>> And don't seem too concerned by it, but
1:18:37I know I'm not guilty. So, I mean, why
1:18:39would you be sweating something if you
1:18:40know you ain't doing anything that will
1:18:42make you look good? But, you know,
1:18:46you ain't doing anything illegal. So,
1:18:47why would I be sweating? I know God's
1:18:49going to figure this out. It's not like,
1:18:51that's why I'm not really stressing it.
1:18:53The truth is going to prove itself. When
1:18:54it does, I'm just going to say, "I told
1:18:56you so. I didn't do anything illegal
1:18:58here or wrong. I wasn't trying to fight.
1:19:00I wasn't I wasn't the aggressor.
1:19:08Did you make any attempt to call 911 or
1:19:11anything after this?
1:19:14No. Uh I had when it had happened,
1:19:18somebody was screaming uh the red car.
1:19:20So I was like, "Yeah, just call 911."
1:19:23Honestly, it was we got pulled over
1:19:24right there. So we really have time.
1:19:26Like we got pulled over like soon we got
1:19:27left there. They had
1:19:28>> time to throw the gun out.
1:19:31>> I mean that happened right there. You
1:19:32understand that's tampering with
1:19:33evidence?
1:19:35>> That's why we didn't want to take it
1:19:36away from the scene. We just left it
1:19:37right there. If anything, we could have
1:19:39took it somewhere. But no, we just cuz
1:19:41it's not my gun.
1:19:42>> Throwing it out. Still tampering with
1:19:44physical evidence.
1:19:44>> We threw it right back into the scene.
1:19:47>> Doesn't matter. You can't tamper with it
1:19:49anyway.
1:19:51Okay.
1:19:53That's a crime.
1:19:56That's my only crime I commit then.
1:20:00Now I just take that to the hill, I
1:20:01guess. But I didn't understand that. I
1:20:03thought since I was putting it back
1:20:05where I could easily find it, it would
1:20:06be a good thing, not a bad thing.
1:20:10No, a good thing would have been you're
1:20:12involved in this situation
1:20:15to call 911 immediately and
1:20:18cooperate, not try to hop back in the
1:20:20car and flee the scene and toss the gun
1:20:23out. And
1:20:30you see how that looks.
1:20:31>> Yeah. I was just we were just
1:20:33>> And the fact that
1:20:35Kadre tossed another gun
1:20:40that was stolen. Reported stolen.
1:20:44>> Which fire was reported stolen?
1:20:46>> The one he threw in the bushes.
1:20:51The one he says was yours that he was
1:20:54holding for you?
1:20:55>> No.
1:20:57So your DNA and your fingerprints aren't
1:20:59going to be on that.
1:21:04I'm asking. I mean,
1:21:07should be an easy yes or no.
1:21:12We'll know how that works.
1:21:14>> Have you held his that gun, the one with
1:21:17the extended magazine? Have you ever
1:21:19touched it? Have you ever held it?
1:21:20>> Yeah. I wasn't arranged with it before.
1:21:23>> Whose gun is it?
1:21:25>> His So that's his gun.
1:21:27>> No, like
1:21:30he just happened.
1:21:33Actually, I never said I got to the
1:21:36range. I just lied. I'm sorry. That's my
1:21:39uncle to the range. He has the same gun
1:21:41as he has the same gun though.
1:21:44So only way my only reason my DNA that
1:21:47gun
1:21:49is from
1:21:52I don't know how I know. It shouldn't be
1:21:54on there. No.
1:21:56>> Okay. I'm asking you. I mean, we'll find
1:21:59out.
1:22:00>> I like to think that we'll find out. So,
1:22:06same with all the rounds that are in it.
1:22:08>> Uhhuh. Everything. So,
1:22:14so why is everyone saying y'all were
1:22:15arguing over the gun?
1:22:18>> I don't know.
1:22:21I I don't I don't remember having no
1:22:23argument over no fire.
1:22:27But you don't remember what the argument
1:22:29was about?
1:22:36I remember having an argument over
1:22:40clothes and shoes and money.
1:22:43>> Money for what?
1:22:48cuz they started to say they was
1:22:50basically just like showing out for the
1:22:52females.
1:22:55That's what was going on.
1:23:00>> What do you mean showing out show?
1:23:08>> That's when he start he ain't start
1:23:10acting all aggressive till females came
1:23:11around.
1:23:16I mean you
1:23:19No one seems to be acting aggressive
1:23:21even with the females around.
1:23:23>> I mean
1:23:24>> I mean the guys like hug one the girls
1:23:26goodbye. They go into the the Waffle
1:23:30House and they come over there like chit
1:23:33chatting with y'all and y'all all just
1:23:35walk back together behind Waffle. Like
1:23:38before y'all go back there. There
1:23:40doesn't look like any tension, no
1:23:43arguments between each other.
1:23:46Like y'all look like friends
1:23:48or at least acquaintances.
1:23:50>> Yeah. I mean, yeah.
1:23:57And then something happens behind Waffle
1:23:59House.
1:24:04You just put me in a fight behind there.
1:24:07I'd never have to.
1:24:08>> Yeah. You're saying a fight from other
1:24:10people.
1:24:14There was people already back there and
1:24:16then when we walked up it was us
1:24:18I guess. I don't know the other people
1:24:20already play or something but they were
1:24:22definitely back there playing
1:24:24but uh we didn't never nobody fought out
1:24:26of our group of the people that we
1:24:28brought back. Nobody fought. We just
1:24:31went back to the front.
1:24:35You didn't just go back to the front.
1:24:38You and Cadre ran back to the vehicle
1:24:44and the other two guys followed you
1:24:48back to the vehicle.
1:24:51And that's where it seems like maybe a
1:24:52little verbal altercation
1:24:56starts where they're trying to talk to
1:24:57you and you're trying to get in the car
1:24:59to leave
1:25:01and then the tussle happens in
1:25:05wrestling.
1:25:19What? Where did the Where did the gun
1:25:22come into play?
1:25:23>> I told you he got it on.
1:25:25>> Where had it on?
1:25:27>> Under his arm.
1:25:30>> What do you mean under his arm? Like
1:25:32just
1:25:33>> holding it up under his arm and he's
1:25:36trying to fight you.
1:25:38I don't know what that like. That makes
1:25:40no sense. I mean, when you got in the
1:25:42car under his arm, I guess he had in his
1:25:44waistband.
1:25:46I mean, if you got a camera, you can see
1:25:47like where the fire was at.
1:25:50Yeah, I don't see any firearm up under
1:25:52his arm.
1:25:56Like,
1:25:58he came from under his arm. I don't know
1:26:00if he I don't know if he was very fast
1:26:02with it, but it look like he came from
1:26:03under his arm.
1:26:08So, how did it end up in the car? Cuz he
1:26:12had got up. I told you he was trying to
1:26:13get up in the car.
1:26:18But I was sitting down so he grabbed me
1:26:20out of it and then the other dude in the
1:26:23white shirt tried to get in the middle
1:26:25like tell him chill out like just let
1:26:27just chill out bro like what are you
1:26:29doing
1:26:31but I don't know why he was but as he
1:26:34told him to chill out I'm like what is
1:26:35he doing like I don't understand what's
1:26:37going on why I'm telling you like how
1:26:39you said it don't add up it wasn't
1:26:40adding up to me as well
1:26:44I The gun go off? That's what I thought
1:26:47though. I don't know. But you said you
1:26:48were defending yourself.
1:26:50>> I was I the car. I don't know how the
1:26:52gun went off. That's what I'm saying. I
1:26:54don't know how that went off. I was just
1:26:56Were y'all fighting over the gun? No.
1:27:15It it just I mean you're saying you're
1:27:17defending yourself, but you aren't
1:27:19fighting over the gun, but then the gun
1:27:21just magically goes off
1:27:24and someone's shot
1:27:27and then the gun magically ends up in
1:27:28the car and you throw it out and then
1:27:30you all try to flee the scene. It wasn't
1:27:33I obviously had but
1:27:39only reason we even pulled out the car
1:27:42cuz we wasn't going to li a gun that we
1:27:44had no idea what we that's not a firearm
1:27:47so we just we didn't know what to do
1:27:50just take out the car
1:27:54but we're already riding around with a
1:27:55firearm that you didn't really know
1:28:00I ain't no Man,
1:28:04I had weed on me.
1:28:07I had bought that from a family.
1:28:11So, you're saying Kadre had that other
1:28:13gun on him?
1:28:14>> I didn't know nothing about a gun.
1:28:18I just don't want know why he'd be
1:28:19saying it's yours. I mean,
1:28:21>> yeah. I don't know. He's admitting to
1:28:23having it and falsing it, but it makes
1:28:26no sense why he'd be saying it's yours
1:28:28if he's already admitting to
1:28:30>> I didn't I didn't ride it out.
1:28:32>> So, but he's saying it's yours. You were
1:28:35showing it off before
1:28:38you've let him hold it.
1:28:41>> I showed it off to who?
1:28:42>> At some party or something.
1:28:45>> What party?
1:28:46>> Huh? Or like a friend's house or
1:28:48something like that earlier today that
1:28:50you had on? I never got to go to bed.
1:28:53>> Okay.
1:28:54>> Yeah, that's that's a lot. So, I just
1:28:56I'm talking to my desk. I ain't even go
1:28:58nowhere. I've been at home all day.
1:28:59>> That's why I'm talking to you, man. I
1:29:01want to get your side of it, not just
1:29:03his side.
1:29:04>> I've been at home
1:29:04>> and not just everyone else's. In my
1:29:07opinion, the truth typically lies
1:29:10somewhere in the middle. People perceive
1:29:12things differently. Things happen.
1:29:14That's why I want to talk to him.
1:29:15>> I was at home one day. That's why I'm
1:29:16still up here at almost 5:00 a.m. in the
1:29:18morning sitting here talking to you cuz
1:29:23just stuff's not adding up. It's not
1:29:25matching. Okay.
1:29:27>> I'm sorry.
1:29:29>> You don't know why they were mad at you.
1:29:31Why they were running at you. No one
1:29:33tries to get in his side of the car. No
1:29:36one tries to stop him from leaving.
1:29:38>> He has a gun.
1:29:39>> Did they know that?
1:29:40>> I don't know. But you just said that.
1:29:42So, I mean, I want nobody has a gun.
1:29:44Well, was he showing it or anything?
1:29:45>> I don't know.
1:29:46>> People don't just magically know if you
1:29:48have a gun.
1:29:49>> I mean, you can see a dirty.
1:29:53>> Maybe depends on how you carry it.
1:29:54>> So, I don't know. I can't tell you. But
1:29:56but you told I'm just using what you
1:29:57were telling me. So,
1:30:00I don't know why they got them, but they
1:30:02came to my side and he grabbed me.
1:30:05That's before I got in the car. You
1:30:06already threw me once and then
1:30:07>> But they had no issue when y'all left
1:30:09them before. Correct.
1:30:11>> Yeah. When we brought back the clothes,
1:30:13that's when the issue cuz the girls is
1:30:15going to leave. The girls doesn't stay
1:30:17here. They said they would leave at
1:30:1910:00 p.m. So, they were going to leave
1:30:20them. So, I mean, they had nowhere else
1:30:22to go.
1:30:34Do you have anything else that you think
1:30:36can assist the investigation? Anything
1:30:38you haven't told me yet that you'd like
1:30:40to put
1:30:44on statement.
1:30:47Uh
1:30:53I hope I hope they tell the truth.
1:30:58This guy interview at 4:45
1:31:01a.m.
1:31:26Um, yeah, let me check with them and
1:31:28I'll see about
1:31:30them.
1:31:51Jo, set up. I'm going to give you one
1:31:54more opportunity because the it's the
1:31:56the picture is clear as the bell right
1:31:58now. So, you want to go down for robbery
1:32:01and felony murder and all that or do you
1:32:03want to talk or you want to start
1:32:04telling some truth because the picture
1:32:06has become very clear of what happened
1:32:09behind that Waffle House and it does not
1:32:11paint you in a good light.
1:32:13>> Can I hear what happened?
1:32:14>> Nope.
1:32:15>> Can I
1:32:15>> You can tell me what happened.
1:32:17>> I don't remember what behind there, but
1:32:19I know I couldn't be charged of a
1:32:21robbery and
1:32:22>> uh Yeah, you can.
1:32:23>> For what?
1:32:24>> Yeah, you can. Like felonies, my man.
1:32:26We've been sitting here for hours
1:32:28begging you to tell us what happened.
1:32:29You want everybody else to paint the
1:32:31picture? You know what? They can paint
1:32:32the picture and they're painting the
1:32:34picture and it does not look good for
1:32:36you.
1:32:36>> What am I getting robbery for?
1:32:38>> Hm.
1:32:39>> I didn't take nothing from nobody.
1:32:40>> Well, yeah, you did.
1:32:42>> What did I take?
1:32:42>> You know exactly what you took.
1:32:44>> I don't.
1:32:46What did I take?
1:32:47>> You know exactly what you took.
1:32:49>> I don't. Yeah, you do.
1:32:52>> Jose, is this how it's going to go down
1:32:54with you, man? Cuz I'm trying to
1:32:56>> This stupid crap's worth the rest of
1:32:58your life. Literally,
1:33:01>> I'm going to jail for life now.
1:33:04>> On on this? Yeah, you very easily could.
1:33:06>> I I didn't do anything. I didn't take
1:33:08nothing.
1:33:08>> But you did. Yeah, you did. You
1:33:10absolutely did.
1:33:10>> I did not take anything from that.
1:33:12>> You You didn't What?
1:33:13>> I didn't take anything from nobody.
1:33:15>> Yeah, you did.
1:33:15>> If you could show me pro pictures of me
1:33:17taking something right now, I take the
1:33:18charge for it. I did not take nothing
1:33:19from nobody.
1:33:20>> No, I don't have to show you anything,
1:33:21right?
1:33:21>> Cuz I didn't do that.
1:33:22>> You can't tell me I did.
1:33:24>> But you did. I can you can go you can go
1:33:26bring K right now and tell him we can
1:33:28put us on the whatever you want to put
1:33:29us on. We I didn't take nothing from
1:33:30nobody.
1:33:30>> It's not him that I talked to. It's not
1:33:32him that he talked to.
1:33:34>> I didn't take nothing from nobody. So if
1:33:35you ain't talking to them too, it's only
1:33:36two other people behind her with us.
1:33:38>> Well, one of them.
1:33:40>> So
1:33:42>> what do you think they're saying? You
1:33:44think they're just talking about what an
1:33:45angel you are like you're trying to
1:33:47sell?
1:33:47>> I'm not trying to say I'm an angel, but
1:33:49I didn't take nothing from nobody.
1:33:52>> But y'all said they didn't shoot
1:33:53anybody. No. Yeah, you did. There in
1:33:56lies the issue. You You can't be honest
1:33:58because you think you think the deeper
1:34:00the hole gets, the harder it's going to
1:34:01be. And that's absolutely right. But you
1:34:04think it's going to be harder on us and
1:34:06it's not.
1:34:06>> I didn't. You trying to say I shot
1:34:08something? I did not shoot.
1:34:10>> Yeah, you did.
1:34:13You absolutely did.
1:34:22I'm trying to see when I had time to
1:34:24shoot somebody when I was getting, you
1:34:26know, hit on, you know, right out the
1:34:28car.
1:34:30She ain't done gun with a fail or
1:34:31anything. I didn't have a gun on me.
1:34:34>> Jose, when all this is said and done and
1:34:37you're doing a very long prison sentence
1:34:40>> for nothing.
1:34:41>> Don't think that we didn't give you
1:34:44ample opportunity tonight to get in
1:34:46front of this. Don't don't don't
1:34:49complain that you didn't have a chance
1:34:50to get your side of it out there because
1:34:52we've given you hours tonight.
1:34:55>> I mean, I'm
1:34:56>> all over nothing.
1:34:57>> This ain't over. I mean, I know I'll be
1:34:59able to talk to a million more people
1:35:00about it, but I'm just saying.
1:35:02>> Yeah. And the more people we talk to,
1:35:03the more damneds you are. That's the
1:35:04problem.
1:35:05>> No, I'm saying
1:35:06>> the more every interview we do just
1:35:08makes you look that much worse.
1:35:10>> No, I mean, I still have other people to
1:35:12talk to as well.
1:35:13>> Why? There was only four people there,
1:35:15right? But I mean a lawyer.
1:35:18>> Well, that's up to you, man.
1:35:20>> Can't do nothing about that for trying
1:35:21to make you seem like I'm just No,
1:35:23that's not what's going on.
1:35:25>> Okay. Well, I can't do anything about
1:35:26that.
1:35:40>> Right.
1:35:40>> Yeah. Contact me.
1:35:43>> My name is Andrew. All right.
1:35:46>> I'm uh detective here at the beach
1:35:49police.
1:35:54Sit up.
1:35:57How old are you?
1:35:59>> 18.
1:35:59>> 18. You've been in read your rights
1:36:01already. All right. Do you understand
1:36:03them still? Okay. Um
1:36:07I want to talk to you about what
1:36:08happened. I'm the lead investigator on
1:36:11this. I want to talk to you about what
1:36:12happened. really want to get your side
1:36:13of the story. I know you've already said
1:36:15it. Um, but I want to hear it from your
1:36:18mouth cuz I'm getting many different
1:36:20stories. All right. So, um,
1:36:27tell me what happened.
1:36:33Um,
1:36:36>> tell me what happened. Why am I here?
1:36:38Why you called in at 10:00 at night and
1:36:40it's 5:00 in the morning and I'm still
1:36:41working?
1:36:44Tell me why I'm here.
1:36:52>> Who are you fighting with Waffle House?
1:36:54>> I didn't get into a fight.
1:36:55>> Yeah, you did. It's on video.
1:36:57>> Okay, hold on.
1:36:59>> That wasn't a
1:37:00>> Hold on. Hold on.
1:37:03Think about what you say to me. Sit up
1:37:06straight. Sit up. Think about what you
1:37:09say to me.
1:37:10Okay, before you start lying,
1:37:13>> I'm not lying, sir.
1:37:14>> Hold on. Before you start lying, think
1:37:17about what you say to me. Okay, I'm the
1:37:20only one that can help you. If you want
1:37:23to help yourself, I am the only one that
1:37:25can help you. This is my case.
1:37:29Everything comes through me. You
1:37:31understand that? Okay. Again, who are
1:37:35you fighting with at the Waffle House?
1:37:38What was his name?
1:37:40I don't know.
1:37:41>> You do know.
1:37:42>> Well, they just told me. So,
1:37:43>> what was his name?
1:37:46>> You do know cuz you're friends with him.
1:37:47Cuz I've already talked to him.
1:37:48>> I'm not friends with him.
1:37:49>> Yes, you are.
1:37:51>> What's his name? Who are you fighting
1:37:54with?
1:37:56>> I The officer just said Julian,
1:38:01the light skin. He was the one with the
1:38:04jack on.
1:38:05>> Okay. What are you guys fighting about?
1:38:07>> We didn't fight.
1:38:07>> You did fight. It's on Listen, it's on
1:38:09video. I watched it. I'll show it to
1:38:12you.
1:38:13>> You mean him grabbing me out the car?
1:38:14>> I will show it to you.
1:38:15>> Him grabbing me out the car?
1:38:16>> I'll show you the whole thing. But you
1:38:18need to be honest.
1:38:19>> Okay, Mr. Andrew, you're talking about
1:38:20him grabbing me out the car, right?
1:38:21>> I'm telling I'm talking about that
1:38:23incident. I'm talking about before that.
1:38:25>> It wasn't a fight before that.
1:38:26>> There was a fight.
1:38:27>> Where?
1:38:28>> Right in front of the car.
1:38:29>> Who fought?
1:38:30>> You.
1:38:30>> No, I did not. Mr. Andrew,
1:38:32>> I got it on video.
1:38:33>> Okay, show me it.
1:39:15You ready?
1:39:16>> Yes, sir.
1:39:18>> That looks familiar.
1:39:20The Cadre.
1:39:21>> Who's that? Whose car right there?
1:39:24Condre.
1:39:24>> Condress. Okay. And
1:39:27he was driving it.
1:39:29Okay.
1:39:32Who's that?
1:39:35>> Okay. Who's this
1:39:39hold? You tell me. Can you play the
1:39:41video?
1:39:49Who are they?
1:39:56I don't know who they are. Can you find
1:39:58his friend?
1:39:59>> Yeah, I'll get there. You tell me.
1:40:02That's Cadre.
1:40:02>> That's Cadre. That's me.
1:40:04>> That's you.
1:40:04>> Yeah.
1:40:05>> Who's that?
1:40:06>> I don't know yet.
1:40:08>> You're never going to see his face cuz
1:40:09it get
1:40:14Okay.
1:40:17So, that's you, right? That's what you
1:40:20just said. That one. Let's go back right
1:40:23there.
1:40:27No,
1:40:28>> that's not you.
1:40:31>> Oh, I think I was already in the car in
1:40:33this one.
1:40:33>> There ain't nobody in the car.
1:40:37>> There is somebody in the car.
1:40:38>> So, who's in the car?
1:40:40>> I think I was in the car in this video.
1:40:42Can you keep going? Cuz you will see it
1:40:44was a fight. He grabbed me out the car.
1:40:54Who's that?
1:40:56Who is this? Me. Okay.
1:41:02Now that we got that settled,
1:41:08who's that in the gray?
1:41:10>> Okay. And then who's that behind him?
1:41:12But she has a head thing on.
1:41:17Yeah. You had a hat on. I didn't have a
1:41:20hat on. Yes, you did.
1:41:23You want to know how I know? Cuz
1:41:25everyone said it. You can tell me that
1:41:27you didn't, but I know that you did.
1:41:29>> So, Kre said that that was me.
1:41:32>> I haven't shown him this video.
1:41:34>> So,
1:41:34>> everybody at the scene, all the
1:41:36witnesses
1:41:38said that you had a hat on.
1:41:41This picture that I just showed you
1:41:46right here,
1:41:48this is after the fact. This is after
1:41:54the shooting.
1:42:02You want to know how I know that's you?
1:42:03Watch this.
1:42:05Well, you told me that was you.
1:42:10It's okay.
1:42:15>> So, what are you trying to say I'm
1:42:16guilty of, Mr. Andrew?
1:42:27Sorry.
1:42:30Who's that? Okay.
1:42:34Who's that?
1:42:38You. That's you. Right. That's you.
1:42:42That's what you just said. You get out
1:42:44of the passenger side of the car. That
1:42:45makes sense. That's you. You walk behind
1:42:49the Waffle House
1:42:51and then
1:42:55there you are again coming back to the
1:42:57car.
1:43:00Right here. That's where that picture is
1:43:02from. When you guys get back into that
1:43:04car, that picture I showed you, that's
1:43:06you guys getting back into the car,
1:43:07right?
1:43:09So again,
1:43:10>> but if I had a beanie on, why would I
1:43:12have a beanie off in the picture?
1:43:14>> Why don't you tell me?
1:43:15>> I won't say that's not making sense. But
1:43:18was
1:43:18>> anyways, hold on. I'm not done.
1:43:22>> Yes, sir.
1:43:22>> Come on. So back up.
1:43:30Okay.
1:43:32So,
1:43:34>> how do I say his name again?
1:43:36>> Cadre.
1:43:37>> Cadre.
1:43:38you, right?
1:43:42Who's that guy? Right.
1:43:43>> That's the light skin one.
1:43:45>> Okay. Who's this guy? The dark skin one.
1:43:48>> Okay. I'll play it from here. Okay.
1:43:54So, it looks like you guys are tustling
1:43:55right there. Right. A little bit.
1:43:57Nothing big. Looks like you're tustling
1:43:59there.
1:43:59>> Well, he grabbed me. If you can see,
1:44:01he's grabbing me. I'm not grabbing him.
1:44:02Right. But it looks like you're push
1:44:04trying to push him away or whatever.
1:44:05Yeah. Trying to get off of me. Get in
1:44:07the car. Okay.
1:44:12What's going on right now?
1:44:13>> That's This is when he grabbed Look, he
1:44:14grabbed me out of the car right there.
1:44:15>> Okay. I want you to tell me.
1:44:17>> He grabbed me.
1:44:18>> That's what I'm trying to get you to
1:44:19tell me. Okay. So, what's going on right
1:44:21now?
1:44:23>> That's when they was like grabbing on
1:44:24me. So, he grabbed me out the car. I was
1:44:26trying to get back inside the car.
1:44:28>> Okay.
1:44:31What's going on right now?
1:44:34That's when everybody was fumbling with
1:44:36Stephan Tesling.
1:44:40I never see where he can he can he play.
1:44:42Where did he go after that?
1:44:43>> Which one?
1:44:44>> The one the lights came on. He ran this
1:44:47way.
1:44:49I've talked to him. He's He ran this
1:44:51way. He's hard to see. It's blurry, but
1:44:53he does. He runs
1:44:56right It's hard to see, but he goes
1:44:58right over behind this car and runs that
1:45:00way. See him right there? Yeah. Okay.
1:45:03And then there's your friend, the
1:45:07driver,
1:45:10right? And then you come out and you're
1:45:12right there.
1:45:13>> Yeah. Go look for him.
1:45:14>> Okay.
1:45:16So, like I said, it's on video. Um,
1:45:24and I just want you to tell me what
1:45:25happened.
1:45:27What are you guys fighting over?
1:45:30Just be honest. I wasn't, if you see, I
1:45:32was just defending myself. Mr. Energy,
1:45:34>> hold on. But you guys go from, and I
1:45:37know you can't see it on this video
1:45:39because I had to be I had to shorten it
1:45:41to get it on my phone. But you guys go
1:45:43from You pull in, you and Cadray. Is
1:45:47that how you say it?
1:45:49You guys pull into the Waffle House and
1:45:51those two other dudes are already there
1:45:53cuz we left them there,
1:45:55>> right? I know that.
1:45:58And then you guys get out the car.
1:46:01>> Will's bringing back his clothes.
1:46:03>> Okay. You guys get out the car. You get
1:46:06into the trunk.
1:46:07>> I was getting my money. But I end up
1:46:09when I check my shorts, I end up saving
1:46:11up my money cuz I had changed clothes.
1:46:13>> Okay.
1:46:13>> That's why I put my clothes in credit
1:46:15trunk. Okay.
1:46:16>> That's why I was
1:46:16>> So that's what you're getting your money
1:46:18or clothes or whatever.
1:46:19>> No, I end up checking when I took the
1:46:21pocket. It was not It was in my pants.
1:46:23>> Okay. I took my money
1:46:24>> and that's cool. So I that's why I
1:46:27>> I'm just trying to tell you what I saw.
1:46:28>> I closed the trunk instantly
1:46:30>> and then and then Cadre put the roof up.
1:46:34>> Yes.
1:46:34>> Okay, cool. We was meaning to give him
1:46:36his clothes and then we just going to go
1:46:37back across the bridge. But so and we
1:46:40see that many people out there. So we're
1:46:41just going to ride back.
1:46:42>> Sure.
1:46:42>> Roof up, you know, chilling,
1:46:44>> right? And that's totally cool.
1:46:48So, roof goes up on the car and then
1:46:52there's some words exchanged between you
1:46:54and this light-skinned guy because I can
1:46:56see it. Can't hear it, but I can see it.
1:46:59You can see gestures and you can make
1:47:01inferences based on that,
1:47:03>> right? Am I Am I on the right track? You
1:47:06guys are talking about something.
1:47:07>> Yes, sir.
1:47:08>> All right. What are you talking about?
1:47:10I
1:47:11>> uh I think Oh, I had told him. Yeah, I
1:47:13told him to get his clothes. I told you.
1:47:15I had pointed out the car and told him
1:47:16to get his clothes. Okay.
1:47:18And then um
1:47:21and then you guys, all four of you walk
1:47:23behind the Waffle House. What's going on
1:47:25back there?
1:47:26>> It was supposed to be a fight.
1:47:27>> Between who?
1:47:31>> Just be honest. If it was between you
1:47:32and somebody else,
1:47:34>> I'm supposed to be between me and the
1:47:36light-skinned dude. But
1:47:37>> okay, here we go. That's what I'm
1:47:38talking about.
1:47:39>> I didn't want to fight. So me and Kre.
1:47:41>> So what happened when you got back
1:47:42there?
1:47:44>> We had noticed. It wasn't like I just
1:47:46didn't want to do it. I noticed
1:47:47>> you noticed why
1:47:48>> the position like everything was wrong.
1:47:50Like it didn't feel right.
1:47:51>> What do you mean?
1:47:52>> I mean, it didn't feel right. I mean, we
1:47:53went out of camera view. I didn't want
1:47:55to fight no more. So, I just told him I
1:47:56want to fight.
1:47:57>> Okay, that's cool.
1:47:59>> So, I when that's why we went to running
1:48:00back toward the front. I mean, like
1:48:02>> All right. So, you
1:48:03>> I got common sense. If anything, I'm not
1:48:04going to get shot off camera. If
1:48:05anything, you going to shoot me on
1:48:06camera.
1:48:07>> Okay. So, you and Cadre go back towards
1:48:10the car
1:48:11>> and that's where the
1:48:11>> And that's where you see this video.
1:48:13>> Yeah. And that's where the females are
1:48:14at. So I mean he's going out for the
1:48:16female boasting up. I think he's going
1:48:17to punch me.
1:48:18>> So what is happening? What is he saying?
1:48:20What is he doing?
1:48:21>> Well, that's why the other dude was in
1:48:23there. He was saying he was going to
1:48:24punch me.
1:48:25>> Who was saying that?
1:48:26>> The light skin.
1:48:27>> Okay.
1:48:29What is when he's like at the door and
1:48:33you're sitting in the car, what is he
1:48:36doing or saying?
1:48:38>> I mean, so he was threatening to punch
1:48:39me, but I offered him to get his clothes
1:48:41one last time before I tried to close
1:48:42the door.
1:48:43>> Okay. And he said, you know, [ __ ] the
1:48:45clothes. He grabbed me and that's when
1:48:48the other dude told him to chill out. He
1:48:49grabbed me and then that's when I
1:48:51grabbed him back like trying to push him
1:48:52off. But that's when I noticed the fire
1:48:54on him and went and it just went I ain't
1:48:57going to lie after that. It just went
1:48:58off. It was like I think I don't know if
1:49:00it was too crowd. It was like you know
1:49:01three of us and it's two it's two like
1:49:03we all in that front seat right there. I
1:49:05don't know if it was just too much
1:49:06crowded on it and like I don't know but
1:49:08I know it wasn't in my possession when
1:49:10it went up so I didn't shoot anybody,
1:49:12you know.
1:49:14Guns don't magically go off. I
1:49:16>> I mean, it don't magically go off, of
1:49:17course, but
1:49:17>> you have to pull There has to be some
1:49:19external force on the trigger for it to
1:49:21go off.
1:49:21>> It wasn't in my control, so I couldn't
1:49:24That's what I'm saying.
1:49:25>> Why are people saying that it was?
1:49:27>> That's what I'm saying. It was not in my
1:49:28control.
1:49:30>> That's what I'm trying to figure out.
1:49:31There's multiple people saying that it
1:49:33was.
1:49:33>> Who are the multiple people?
1:49:35>> I'm not going to tell you.
1:49:36>> I mean,
1:49:38if we're being quite honest, only three
1:49:40people right there. Me, Kre. So, you can
1:49:42use your you can use your own logic and
1:49:45figure it out yourself.
1:49:48>> I mean,
1:49:48>> if multiple people are telling me that
1:49:50you're the one that pulled the trigger
1:49:52and there's only three of you minus one
1:49:54of you,
1:49:56process of elimination says, "Hey, but
1:49:58if Julian did not pull the trigger,
1:50:00he'll just be lying because he don't
1:50:02want to take the I mean, his gun. So, I
1:50:04mean, that's just going to eliminate
1:50:05Hilly." Kadre, I don't think Kadre was
1:50:08said because he know what happened and
1:50:09he was right there. So, I don't think he
1:50:11should lie.
1:50:13So, I wouldn't think Caj would say that.
1:50:16>> He wouldn't think that, but that's
1:50:18exactly what he's saying.
1:50:20>> I would hope not cuz he would be lying,
1:50:22too. So,
1:50:25they're both saying it. They're both
1:50:27saying that you pull a trigger.
1:50:30>> How? When? I didn't have a gun.
1:50:31>> You had a gun?
1:50:33>> When did I get a gun, Mr. H?
1:50:35>> When did I get the gun?
1:50:36>> You had a gun in your waistband?
1:50:38>> No, I did not.
1:50:39>> Yes, you did. So the whole time when I
1:50:41went right there to fight, I had a gun
1:50:42in my waistband. [clears throat]
1:50:43>> So where did Kaj get a gun from?
1:50:46>> Where did Kaj get a gun from?
1:50:47>> I don't know. I haven't talked to him,
1:50:48but I'm going to ask him.
1:50:49>> But your other detail just said Kadre
1:50:51had my supposedly gun. I didn't have a
1:50:54gun.
1:50:55>> That's not what I'm being told.
1:50:57>> I don't know, Mr. Andrew. Seem like
1:50:59somebody telling you and your two
1:51:00different stories.
1:51:02>> They're your friends.
1:51:04>> They're not my friends. Only person I
1:51:05know with them.
1:51:06>> Only person I hang out with is Kadre.
1:51:08That's Kadre friends. I was just there.
1:51:10I don't be around the I don't know them.
1:51:13And this is why. Cuz they do weird
1:51:15stuff. Get in front of females on the
1:51:17show. That's not the type of guy I am.
1:51:21So you can go in there ask Kadre. I mean
1:51:22>> I'm going to I'm going to go in there
1:51:24right after this.
1:51:24>> I'm saying Andrew. I don't want to be
1:51:26distressful. I'm not trying to be rude.
1:51:28I didn't do anything.
1:51:29>> Okay. Well, this is what I'm going to
1:51:31leave you with. Then
1:51:34>> you tell me what I need to tell this
1:51:36kid's parents.
1:51:38that you shot
1:51:40because he's dead.
1:51:42>> I didn't shoot him.
1:51:43>> You tell me what I need to tell this
1:51:46kid's parents who is dead because you
1:51:49shot him. You tell me what to tell him.
1:51:51>> I didn't shoot him. If If it was
1:51:53possible, it would
1:51:54>> The gun wasn't on me. It was It wasn't
1:51:57on me.
1:51:57>> You tell me.
1:51:58>> I didn't have the gun
1:51:59>> again. Again. You tell me what I need to
1:52:02tell this kid's parents. this
1:52:0318-year-old kid who's now dead because
1:52:06you shot him.
1:52:07>> I did not shoot him.
1:52:08>> Do I need to tell his parents?
1:52:10>> Like you at this point, you're not even
1:52:11listening to me.
1:52:12>> I am listening to you. You're saying
1:52:13>> I didn't shoot him.
1:52:14>> I didn't shoot him. I didn't shoot him.
1:52:15And if I have people telling me that you
1:52:17did,
1:52:17>> you have another criminal telling you
1:52:19that I did. Okay.
1:52:20>> I have two other people telling you me
1:52:22that you did.
1:52:23>> And I ain't going the
1:52:26Look, if I'm getting pulled out,
1:52:30>> your DNA is going to be on the guns.
1:52:32Your DNA is going to be on it.
1:52:34>> I mean, cuz I threw it out. So, I mean,
1:52:35it will have to be on this.
1:52:36>> Is it in possession?
1:52:37>> No, it fell on the ground in the car. I
1:52:39mean, he was in the car. You like he
1:52:40never got in the car, officer. He
1:52:43>> Julian, he got inside the car in the
1:52:44front seat when he snatched his gun.
1:52:46>> Yes. He snatched I mean, yes. Everybody
1:52:49knew that. He snatched me out the car.
1:52:51And when he snatched me out the car when
1:52:53I was trying to get back in when we
1:52:54tussled after everything went down, the
1:52:57gun fell on the on the floorboard of the
1:52:58car. That's why I threw it out when we
1:53:00was driving. But I didn't want to throw
1:53:01it out nowhere else cuz I wasn't trying
1:53:02to hide it. I threw it where y'all can
1:53:05find it.
1:53:06I didn't know nothing else about the
1:53:07other gun.
1:53:08>> Okay.
1:53:11>> Well,
1:53:15story doesn't match.
1:53:19>> I didn't know what they're going to
1:53:21>> Okay,
1:53:23that's the story you want to stick with.
1:53:25That's what we're going to go with.
1:53:32All right, hang out here. We'll talk to
1:53:34your buddy.
1:53:42You decide.
1:53:44Want to change your story? Just yell for
1:53:46me and we can hear you.
1:53:52>> Like I said, I'm trying to help you.
1:53:54>> Yes, sir. I didn't scare nobody, Mr.
1:53:57Andy. I promise.
1:53:58>> Okay.
1:54:05>> Yo, wake up, Warren. Are you, Mitchell?
1:54:09H, let's go, brother. I'm going to just
1:54:11walk through these doors right here.
1:54:16>> Sorry to leave you like that.
1:54:23Following the interrogation,
1:54:25investigators continued building the
1:54:26case around the Waffle House shooting on
1:54:28Front Beach Road in Panama City Beach.
1:54:30Prosecutors said the confrontation began
1:54:32with [music] the theft of Julian Zela's
1:54:34firearm, followed by a struggle near
1:54:36Mitchell's vehicle. During that
1:54:38struggle, JDon Love Hughes, who was
1:54:40unarmed, stepped in as [music] the
1:54:42situation escalated. The shot that
1:54:44followed was intended for Zela, but
1:54:47struck [music] Judion instead. Jazai
1:54:49Mitchell was later charged with
1:54:50manslaughter with a firearm, attempted
1:54:52secondderee murder with a firearm, grand
1:54:55theft of a firearm, and tampering with
1:54:57physical evidence. At trial in February
1:55:002026, prosecutors presented testimony
1:55:02[music] from 16 witnesses along with
1:55:04forensic evidence tied to the recovered
1:55:06firearm and Mitchell's flight from the
1:55:08scene. On February 6th, 2026, [music]
1:55:12a Bay County jury found Mitchell guilty
1:55:14on all four counts. On March 5th,
1:55:17[music] 2026, Circuit Judge Timothy
1:55:20Register sentenced him to 50 years in
1:55:22state [music] prison. That sentence
1:55:24included a 20-year mandatory minimum
1:55:26term for attempted secondderee murder,
1:55:29[music] followed by a consecutive
1:55:3030-year sentence for manslaughter.
1:55:33The 5-year sentences for the firearm
1:55:35[music] theft and evidence tampering
1:55:36counts were ordered to run at the same
1:55:38time as the manslaughter sentence.
1:55:40Mitchell was also ordered to pay $7,500
1:55:43in restitution to JDon Hugh's family. If
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1:55:54continue covering important stories like
1:55:55this one. Thank you.

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