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  1. 0:00We have you on video running out the
  2. 0:01back door and throwing it in the garbage
  3. 0:03can.
  4. 0:05Don't look at me like that, man.
  5. 0:06>> What?
  6. 0:06>> Yes.
  7. 0:10>> Just after midnight on March [music]
  8. 0:125th, 2023,
  9. 0:14gunfire erupted in the Five Points
  10. 0:16neighborhood of Athens, Georgia.
  11. 0:18>> [music]
  12. 0:18>> Giovanni McDavid had just left a nearby
  13. 0:20gathering with four other people when
  14. 0:22their vehicle stopped at the
  15. 0:23intersection [music] of Northview Drive
  16. 0:25and Pinecrest Drive. Moments later, a
  17. 0:27white Honda pulled alongside them,
  18. 0:29stopped nearby, and several occupants
  19. 0:32opened fire.
  20. 0:33The people inside McDavid's vehicle
  21. 0:34[music] fired back. In only seconds,
  22. 0:37more than 40 rounds were exchanged
  23. 0:38across the intersection. [music]
  24. 0:40When the shooting ended, McDavid had
  25. 0:42suffered a fatal gunshot wound to the
  26. 0:43head.
  27. 0:44>> [music]
  28. 0:44>> Detectives immediately began collecting
  29. 0:46surveillance footage from businesses,
  30. 0:48nearby streets, and the University of
  31. 0:50Georgia camera network. The cameras
  32. 0:52allowed investigators to follow the
  33. 0:54suspected Accord away from the scene and
  34. 0:56into an Athens apartment complex, where
  35. 0:58four armed individuals were seen getting
  36. 1:00out.
  37. 1:01A registration check led police to
  38. 1:03Anthony Brown. Officers located him,
  39. 1:06searched his residence,
  40. 1:07>> [music]
  41. 1:07>> and recovered a 9-mm handgun.
  42. 1:10Now, investigators need to determine who
  43. 1:12was inside the Accord, what role each
  44. 1:14person played, [music] and what caused
  45. 1:16the encounter to turn deadly.
  46. 1:18This is the interrogation of Anthony
  47. 1:19Brown.
  48. 1:21>> I'm not arguing.
  49. 1:22>> Okay.
  50. 1:30Well, so
  51. 1:32I'm Detective Lister.
  52. 1:34Um
  53. 1:35Do you know why you're here?
  54. 1:36>> No.
  55. 1:37>> Do you know why you're here?
  56. 1:38>> No.
  57. 1:38>> Okay. Basically, I wanted to talk with
  58. 1:40you about last night, and kind of where
  59. 1:42you were, and anything like that. And I
  60. 1:45kind of want to get your side of things.
  61. 1:47Um but, what I need to do first, since
  62. 1:50you're in handcuffs, and you're not
  63. 1:52under arrest or anything like that, but
  64. 1:54since you're in handcuffs,
  65. 1:56uh I do need to make you aware of your
  66. 1:58rights, okay? But I'd love to talk with
  67. 2:00you, okay? So I'm going to read this to
  68. 2:02you and then I'll ask you two questions,
  69. 2:05okay?
  70. 2:06You have the right to remain silent.
  71. 2:07Anything you say can and will be used
  72. 2:09against you in a court of law. You have
  73. 2:10the right to talk to a lawyer. If you
  74. 2:12cannot afford to hire a lawyer, one will
  75. 2:13be appointed to represent you before any
  76. 2:15questioning if you wish. Even if you
  77. 2:17don't want a lawyer now and agree to
  78. 2:18talk with us, you can at any time change
  79. 2:20your mind
  80. 2:21and ask for a lawyer or stop talking
  81. 2:23with us.
  82. 2:25Do you understand each of these rights
  83. 2:26that I've explained them to you?
  84. 2:28Okay. Having these rights in mind, do
  85. 2:29you wish to talk with me about last
  86. 2:31night and clear some things up for me?
  87. 2:34You'll talk to me? Okay.
  88. 2:36So where were you last night?
  89. 2:38>> At home and then at my partner's house.
  90. 2:41>> At home?
  91. 2:42>> Yes.
  92. 2:43>> Okay.
  93. 2:44Uh what time were you at home?
  94. 2:46>> I got home probably like
  95. 2:491:00 2:00 in the morning.
  96. 2:52>> 1:00 or 2:00 a.m.?
  97. 2:53>> Yeah.
  98. 2:54>> Okay. Before that, where were you at?
  99. 2:56>> I was at my partner's house on College
  100. 2:58Station.
  101. 3:00>> Uh who's your partner?
  102. 3:02>> Uh Myron.
  103. 3:04>> Huh?
  104. 3:04>> Myron.
  105. 3:05>> How do you spell that?
  106. 3:07>> M y r o n.
  107. 3:17>> Okay.
  108. 3:19Uh what were you all doing over there at
  109. 3:21College Station?
  110. 3:22>> Playing on the game at his house.
  111. 3:24>> Playing games?
  112. 3:25>> Yeah. 4:00 p.m. 2:00 p.m.
  113. 3:27>> Okay.
  114. 3:29You pretty good at it?
  115. 3:31Yeah?
  116. 3:33>> I'm just saying what happened last
  117. 3:34night.
  118. 3:36>> Well, I think you know.
  119. 3:38But
  120. 3:40there was a shooting last night.
  121. 3:43Okay?
  122. 3:43>> And what?
  123. 3:44>> And I know you're known to drive a white
  124. 3:46Honda Accord.
  125. 3:48>> Yeah.
  126. 3:48>> Right?
  127. 3:49>> Yeah.
  128. 3:50>> Okay. That vehicle is parked at your
  129. 3:51house.
  130. 3:52>> Yeah. That's your car, right?
  131. 3:54>> My mom will drive it.
  132. 3:55>> Your mom's car?
  133. 3:56But she let you drive it?
  134. 3:58So, who was driving your car last night?
  135. 4:00>> I was.
  136. 4:01>> You were?
  137. 4:02>> Yeah.
  138. 4:02>> Okay, your car is seen at a shooting
  139. 4:04last night on video.
  140. 4:08>> Yeah, but the shooting happened at on a
  141. 4:09whole another street.
  142. 4:11>> Yeah? Where at?
  143. 4:13>> I don't know cuz it was a around the
  144. 4:15corner.
  145. 4:16>> It was around the corner from you?
  146. 4:17>> Yeah.
  147. 4:19>> From Myron's house?
  148. 4:20>> No, when we were driving, soon as I
  149. 4:22turned on Mellow Ridge, we started
  150. 4:25hearing shooting. I skirted off and got
  151. 4:27back on the front street of Mellow
  152. 4:28Ridge.
  153. 4:29>> You Okay.
  154. 4:30>> The shooting was still happening when
  155. 4:32I'm driving off.
  156. 4:33>> Why was someone hanging out of your car
  157. 4:34with a rifle?
  158. 4:36>> Nobody hanging out of my car with a
  159. 4:37rifle.
  160. 4:37>> And we have it on video, man. I see
  161. 4:39someone hanging out of your passenger
  162. 4:41window,
  163. 4:42your front passenger window with a
  164. 4:43rifle.
  165. 4:45And they blasted off from your vehicle
  166. 4:48at least 30 rounds.
  167. 4:51>> What?
  168. 4:51>> Yeah.
  169. 4:54>> I don't know when that happened.
  170. 4:55>> Really?
  171. 4:57Okay.
  172. 4:58>> That didn't happen. I don't know Nobody
  173. 4:59didn't shoot cuz it went on our street.
  174. 5:03>> Okay.
  175. 5:05So, your story already doesn't make
  176. 5:06sense.
  177. 5:07>> How?
  178. 5:08The shooting happened on a whole another
  179. 5:10street. You still hear the shooting when
  180. 5:11we driving off.
  181. 5:12>> I mentioned there was a shooting last
  182. 5:13night and then you already knew where it
  183. 5:15happened.
  184. 5:16>> Cuz the girl got on live saying my name.
  185. 5:19Everybody calling me this morning to my
  186. 5:21watch she on live saying
  187. 5:22>> What girl?
  188. 5:23>> I don't know the girl. I don't even
  189. 5:24follow her. She got on Instagram live
  190. 5:26saying Nick.
  191. 5:27>> So, someone was saying you did it.
  192. 5:29>> Yeah.
  193. 5:30>> Already?
  194. 5:30>> Yeah.
  195. 5:31>> Why would they say that?
  196. 5:32>> Cuz the folks who party was don't like
  197. 5:34us.
  198. 5:35>> They don't like you?
  199. 5:36>> They don't like Yeah.
  200. 5:37>> What do you mean us?
  201. 5:39>> I'm just They don't like people from
  202. 5:40uptown.
  203. 5:41>> EBK?
  204. 5:42>> No, I just said uptown.
  205. 5:45Talking about EBK. Talking about sides
  206. 5:48of town. All right, that side of town
  207. 5:50don't know what his size of town.
  208. 5:51>> Yeah, that party was a RTG party.
  209. 5:54>> No, that wasn't that was really the
  210. 5:55Aries down. That's the same group party.
  211. 5:58What are you talking about?
  212. 5:59>> Okay. So, people there aren't RTG.
  213. 6:02>> I don't know. I couldn't didn't know we
  214. 6:04didn't know where the party was.
  215. 6:06>> Okay.
  216. 6:06>> We thought it was a college party then
  217. 6:07we couldn't even find it. Soon as we
  218. 6:09turned past the little UJ practice
  219. 6:11field, that's folks started shooting.
  220. 6:15>> Who was in the car with you?
  221. 6:18>> It was nobody with me.
  222. 6:19>> You were just driving by yourself?
  223. 6:21>> Yeah, I was in the car with myself.
  224. 6:22>> Why do you keep saying we though?
  225. 6:25>> I said folks don't like us.
  226. 6:26>> No, I don't know. When you were talking
  227. 6:28about turning and driving around, you
  228. 6:30said we.
  229. 6:32>> I didn't say no we.
  230. 6:33>> Okay.
  231. 6:34>> I ain't mean to. You want me to say I?
  232. 6:38Cuz my partner just went with a girl.
  233. 6:40Nobody let off no rounds from my car.
  234. 6:42>> Sure. Okay.
  235. 6:44So, when we do a search warrant on the
  236. 6:46car, are we going to locate any shell
  237. 6:47casings inside of it?
  238. 6:49>> No.
  239. 6:50>> No?
  240. 6:51And the other car that we just brought
  241. 6:53in, that other white car that you saw in
  242. 6:55the parking lot.
  243. 6:56>> Yeah.
  244. 6:57>> Why were you shocked to see it?
  245. 6:59>> I wasn't. Who said I was shocked? I
  246. 7:01thought it was my car. I kept looking at
  247. 7:02the car trying to see if it was mine.
  248. 7:04And I didn't see no dice right there.
  249. 7:05Cuz I think like why they taking my
  250. 7:07mom's car?
  251. 7:08>> Yeah, no. We've got your mom's car.
  252. 7:10Cuz your car was clearly seen on video
  253. 7:13going to where the shooting was and
  254. 7:15driving away from it.
  255. 7:16And people are shooting from that car.
  256. 7:19So, I'd appreciate if you were honest
  257. 7:21with me.
  258. 7:22>> The shooting happened on a whole
  259. 7:24[clears throat] 'nother street. It was
  260. 7:25five of us. My car is out there.
  261. 7:27Same kind of car. I see all these folks
  262. 7:30fleeing the scene. That's why I ran the
  263. 7:32red light.
  264. 7:32>> So, everyone's got a got a white Honda
  265. 7:35Accord.
  266. 7:35>> say everybody, but it was like 400
  267. 7:37folks. We didn't even get to see where
  268. 7:39the party was. Soon as I turned past the
  269. 7:42practice field,
  270. 7:43we hear shooting. Boom, I don't even
  271. 7:45ride up the right street. I turn right.
  272. 7:49And back on the front street of
  273. 7:50Milledge, you'll see it on camera.
  274. 7:53See it on camera by the go to practice
  275. 7:54field and Kelly's.
  276. 7:56I wasn't even on the street 2 seconds.
  277. 7:57Soon as we turn,
  278. 7:59soon as I turn, they start shooting.
  279. 8:01>> I wouldn't be talking to you right now
  280. 8:03if we weren't sure that your car was
  281. 8:04there. Okay?
  282. 8:06>> I I'm not
  283. 8:07Yeah, I'm you right. I'm not No, my car
  284. 8:09was there. But
  285. 8:11if you watch the camera, you see it.
  286. 8:12>> But when we when we watch the video,
  287. 8:15there's someone leaning out of your
  288. 8:17front passenger window with a with a
  289. 8:19rifle. Yeah, shooting. I'm not kidding.
  290. 8:22So, that's what I want to understand.
  291. 8:23Who was in the car with you?
  292. 8:25>> It wasn't nobody.
  293. 8:26>> If you weren't shooting, that's fine. If
  294. 8:28one of your friends was stupid and he
  295. 8:29was shooting, then tell me.
  296. 8:32>> Weren't nobody shooting in my car.
  297. 8:34That's what I'm telling you. Weren't no
  298. 8:35shells fired from my car. It was guns in
  299. 8:36the car, but we didn't Nobody fired no
  300. 8:38shells.
  301. 8:39>> Okay.
  302. 8:39>> Cuz the the shooting didn't happen on
  303. 8:41our street. If you probably you still
  304. 8:43you can still see it on the camera from
  305. 8:44the practice field.
  306. 8:45The party was up the hill. It had to be.
  307. 8:47I turned right.
  308. 8:50I went right. Next thing you know, you
  309. 8:52hear 20 gunshots.
  310. 8:54By the time they on the 10th gunshot,
  311. 8:56I'm on Milledge leaving.
  312. 9:00>> Okay.
  313. 9:02Um so, who was in the car with you?
  314. 9:04>> I was by myself.
  315. 9:06Weren't nobody.
  316. 9:07>> You said
  317. 9:09you had guns in the car and you keep
  318. 9:10saying with
  319. 9:11nobody.
  320. 9:12>> I had my gun.
  321. 9:14>> Okay.
  322. 9:14>> That's all I had. If they find my gun at
  323. 9:17home, you can tell it ain't been shot. I
  324. 9:19ain't did nothing.
  325. 9:20>> Okay, and you're not a convicted felon
  326. 9:22or anything?
  327. 9:22>> No.
  328. 9:23>> Okay.
  329. 9:24>> This is crazy, bro.
  330. 9:25>> Well, that's that's why I'm asking these
  331. 9:27questions, man.
  332. 9:28>> That's why everybody follow me this
  333. 9:29morning. That girl said I don't lie and
  334. 9:30said my name talking some nick down. But
  335. 9:33it wasn't us. It was a million people
  336. 9:34out there.
  337. 9:35As soon as I turn Milledge, they're
  338. 9:37shooting.
  339. 9:39A whole bunch of gunshots. Wasn't nobody
  340. 9:40out there with my car shooting no rifle.
  341. 9:42>> Is that your girl in the other room?
  342. 9:44Like, are you dating her?
  343. 9:45>> No.
  344. 9:46>> Okay.
  345. 9:47>> She was just over there.
  346. 9:49>> She was just hanging out?
  347. 9:50>> Yeah. [clears throat]
  348. 9:50>> Okay. When did she get over this
  349. 9:51morning, like get over to you?
  350. 9:54>> Uh
  351. 9:56I don't know. I had texted when I had
  352. 9:57just woke back up around like 4:00 or
  353. 9:595:00.
  354. 10:00>> Okay.
  355. 10:03And you're saying that you were over at
  356. 10:05Myron's house playing 2K?
  357. 10:08Okay.
  358. 10:09Um is there a phone number that I can
  359. 10:10reach Myron at?
  360. 10:11>> His phone number
  361. 10:12>> His phone's off? What's his address? Do
  362. 10:14you know?
  363. 10:15>> I don't know.
  364. 10:16I do know it's somewhere on College
  365. 10:18Street.
  366. 10:19>> Okay.
  367. 10:21>> This is crazy. It's somebody out my car
  368. 10:23shooting, you know.
  369. 10:26I would count.
  370. 10:27>> Well, so think about it this way.
  371. 10:29We see your car go to the scene, okay?
  372. 10:33We see someone shoot from that vehicle,
  373. 10:35okay?
  374. 10:36Then we see that vehicle go back to
  375. 10:37Bethel.
  376. 10:40Okay?
  377. 10:41>> Mhm.
  378. 10:41>> I've got that car going to Bethel first,
  379. 10:45going to the party,
  380. 10:47shooting at the party,
  381. 10:48and then going back to Bethel. Got it
  382. 10:50all on camera.
  383. 10:52And I see someone exit from the vehicle,
  384. 10:54too.
  385. 10:56A couple people. More than one.
  386. 10:59Okay?
  387. 11:01And you know there's this thing called a
  388. 11:02tag reader?
  389. 11:04>> Mhm.
  390. 11:04>> That's in Bethel.
  391. 11:06And it ran your tag.
  392. 11:07>> Okay.
  393. 11:08>> On your vehicle.
  394. 11:09>> I don't know. I stay on College Street.
  395. 11:10I always be in the Bethel.
  396. 11:11>> So what were you doing in Bethel last
  397. 11:12night?
  398. 11:13>> I go out there every day. You watch the
  399. 11:14camera from this week, you going to see
  400. 11:15me
  401. 11:16>> What I'm saying is is you said you were
  402. 11:17at Myron's on College Street.
  403. 11:19>> You'll see mine in the Bethel, too, if
  404. 11:21you watch the camera. I left Myron's
  405. 11:22house, went to the Bethel.
  406. 11:23>> Okay. So when did y'all go to Bethel?
  407. 11:26>> I don't know what time it was. Probably
  408. 11:27like
  409. 11:30Normal.
  410. 11:32It couldn't have been long before two
  411. 11:34left the two. Could I have went to the
  412. 11:36alleyway after? Could I have went to
  413. 11:37gamble no more?
  414. 11:39I don't know.
  415. 11:41>> Were you gambling at Myron's?
  416. 11:42>> Yeah.
  417. 11:44I don't know. Probably right after all
  418. 11:46this stuff had happened. Went back to
  419. 11:47the building. That when we was in the
  420. 11:48car and she got on live telling me
  421. 11:50something. [ __ ] why y'all AJ do that?
  422. 11:53Y'all everybody texting me and stuff.
  423. 11:55But I wasn't I wasn't paying no mind cuz
  424. 11:57folks saying my name on her stream all
  425. 11:59the time though. Like what?
  426. 12:02So the folks saying you did that? That
  427. 12:03is crazy.
  428. 12:13Like what? He was a million of my
  429. 12:15[ __ ] cars out there.
  430. 12:18>> Dude, how many of the vehicles do you
  431. 12:20think have your tag?
  432. 12:22>> None.
  433. 12:22>> And dice hanging in the mirror?
  434. 12:24>> None. But dice, yeah.
  435. 12:27Everybody have dice.
  436. 12:30I don't know what that dice.
  437. 12:32Everybody have dice in one though.
  438. 12:35And so you When they When he firing the
  439. 12:36shots out the car, you see my tag?
  440. 12:39That's
  441. 12:39>> We see your vehicle with the dice,
  442. 12:41everything.
  443. 12:43Ain't no way. Dude, I got ring video
  444. 12:44that's clear. Real clear.
  445. 12:47>> Ain't no way.
  446. 12:48>> No way?
  447. 12:51>> It said nobody in my car shooting no
  448. 12:53shots. It happened on the whole another
  449. 12:55street.
  450. 12:56I hopped out the car.
  451. 12:59I stopped the car on the street when
  452. 13:00they start shooting. You hear the shots.
  453. 13:02>> Why do you hop out of the car when
  454. 13:04they're shooting?
  455. 13:04>> I didn't say I hopped out. I stopped it.
  456. 13:06>> You just said you hopped out. Then you
  457. 13:08said you stopped.
  458. 13:09>> Oh, I mean I just stopped and let down
  459. 13:11my window cuz this [ __ ] when that
  460. 13:13happening on the street we was on.
  461. 13:15You can hear it on the ring camera. You
  462. 13:17hear it on the whole another street up
  463. 13:18there by the party.
  464. 13:20>> Okay.
  465. 13:21>> And then that's when your girl text me
  466. 13:22telling me somebody died at the party.
  467. 13:24You know I said yeah when we was
  468. 13:25shooting.
  469. 13:26I said when they were shooting when we
  470. 13:28heard they shooting
  471. 13:30I said, when we heard they shooting,
  472. 13:31bro, somebody just died, bro.
  473. 13:34They were shooting on the whole another
  474. 13:35road. If you watch the rain camera, you
  475. 13:37can see it. We went on the road and
  476. 13:38party was on.
  477. 13:41We didn't even find the party.
  478. 13:42>> Why didn't you tell me that you went to
  479. 13:44Bethel?
  480. 13:45You told me you went to Minor's, then
  481. 13:47you told me you went home.
  482. 13:49>> Cuz I wasn't even in Bethel 5 minutes.
  483. 13:52Cuz they told me that they wanted to
  484. 13:53shoot lights and I came out there they
  485. 13:54weren't talking about nothing. They came
  486. 13:55out there telling me about the lie.
  487. 13:57So, I said, "Minor, let's go."
  488. 13:58>> Well, you were in Bethel before the
  489. 14:00shooting, too. At midnight.
  490. 14:03>> Yeah, I said, "Minor, let's get out of
  491. 14:04here."
  492. 14:05>> Yeah, so you were there at midnight. You
  493. 14:07left.
  494. 14:09You drove out to where the party was and
  495. 14:11then you came right back.
  496. 14:12>> I didn't know 12. I was gone for a
  497. 14:15little minute.
  498. 14:16>> Yeah, you were gone for 20 minutes.
  499. 14:18I can account I can account for every
  500. 14:20minute your vehicle's gone from Bethel
  501. 14:22and when it gets back.
  502. 14:24>> Yeah, I left like three, four times
  503. 14:26today.
  504. 14:27>> You'd be surprised how many cameras are
  505. 14:28in Athens.
  506. 14:30>> I'm not surprised. I'm not worried about
  507. 14:32that. I'm just saying.
  508. 14:34>> I'd be worried if I were you because I
  509. 14:36honestly your story doesn't make any
  510. 14:38sense to me.
  511. 14:39>> How?
  512. 14:40>> It's not lining up.
  513. 14:42>> How is not lining
  514. 14:43>> You're skipping around. You're not being
  515. 14:44consistent. So,
  516. 14:47I'm asking for the truth.
  517. 14:48>> I'm telling you the truth. I rode past
  518. 14:50the party, we heard gunshots. The shots
  519. 14:53didn't come from me.
  520. 14:54>> How do you know how many people were
  521. 14:56there if y'all never made it to the
  522. 14:57party?
  523. 14:58>> I have Instagram. You act like I'm not a
  524. 15:00young kid.
  525. 15:01>> Look, look, that's fine. You're
  526. 15:03explaining it.
  527. 15:04>> We've been knowing about the party all
  528. 15:05week. We knew the whole Athens was going
  529. 15:06to be at the party.
  530. 15:08>> But the people that were there don't
  531. 15:09like you.
  532. 15:10>> Yeah, that's why we didn't go.
  533. 15:12We didn't know that was their party on
  534. 15:14Milledge. We were talking to them on the
  535. 15:15east side.
  536. 15:17A college girl just told me that this is
  537. 15:19a UGA party and we can't even find it.
  538. 15:22Soon as I turn past the practice field,
  539. 15:24shots let off.
  540. 15:26How could you possibly say that's us?
  541. 15:28>> Did you think someone was shooting at
  542. 15:29you?
  543. 15:30>> No, cuz nobody was on the street with
  544. 15:32me, sir. That's what I'm telling you.
  545. 15:34The street was empty.
  546. 15:35>> Okay.
  547. 15:38>> Our whole street was empty.
  548. 15:40If you see it was see it on the ring
  549. 15:41camera.
  550. 15:42Nobody was on the street but us.
  551. 15:45>> Okay.
  552. 15:46>> You see me stop my car.
  553. 15:49See what the hell going on.
  554. 15:50>> I definitely see you stopped the car.
  555. 15:52>> Yeah, you see me stop and all you hear
  556. 15:54is shots. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom,
  557. 15:56boom.
  558. 15:57>> Yeah.
  559. 15:57>> I'm like, "What the hell?"
  560. 15:58>> But there's someone leaning out of the
  561. 16:00window. That's the thing. It's on video.
  562. 16:02I could print a picture and show you.
  563. 16:05>> Didn't nobody even hop out my car,
  564. 16:06though.
  565. 16:07>> Like I I like I'm
  566. 16:08>> Nobody even hang out my window.
  567. 16:11But this crazy.
  568. 16:12>> But you said you were alone in the car.
  569. 16:15You weren't alone in the car. So, just
  570. 16:16be honest with me. Who was in the car
  571. 16:19with you?
  572. 16:23Cuz I'm looking for honesty here, okay?
  573. 16:25I'm not trying to be rude. I'm not
  574. 16:27trying to be a dick.
  575. 16:29I want you to be honest with me.
  576. 16:32>> I am being honest with you.
  577. 16:33>> Okay, then who was in the car with you?
  578. 16:38>> Weren't nobody with me.
  579. 16:40Nobody was checking in that night.
  580. 16:42>> I don't know who you're trying to
  581. 16:43convince, yourself or me.
  582. 16:45>> I ain't trying to convince you.
  583. 16:48I don't remember we had to I let the
  584. 16:50bell through the trunk.
  585. 16:53They told me and my we didn't do
  586. 16:55nothing.
  587. 16:56For my car didn't do nothing.
  588. 16:59But this crazy.
  589. 17:02I didn't even know nothing happened.
  590. 17:06>> Okay.
  591. 17:07>> Till this morning, till all these girls
  592. 17:09text me and stuff.
  593. 17:11Told my son Nick, if you had something
  594. 17:12to do with that, it's wrong cuz you know
  595. 17:14I was there. My assistant stuff were
  596. 17:16there. I didn't shoot up that party.
  597. 17:18If you watch on the E40 green camera,
  598. 17:20the shooting happened on the other on
  599. 17:22the street.
  600. 17:23I'm not lying.
  601. 17:25>> The shooting happened on the street.
  602. 17:27That's fine. Your car is seen on that
  603. 17:29video. That's the thing. Where the party
  604. 17:31was.
  605. 17:32>> My car is seen on the street where the
  606. 17:34party was.
  607. 17:34>> Yeah.
  608. 17:35>> Oh, wait. Where is it?
  609. 17:36>> That's That's the thing. So, that's what
  610. 17:38I'm trying to understand is why would it
  611. 17:40have been there.
  612. 17:42>> Cuz somebody had told me it was a UJA
  613. 17:43party, but I went on the right street
  614. 17:46cuz you could hear the party on the next
  615. 17:47street. I'm finna get ready to stop the
  616. 17:50car and turn around. Soon as the other
  617. 17:52white Honda turn, you just hear shots.
  618. 17:56>> Around what time were you were you
  619. 17:58heading over to the party?
  620. 18:00So, I can confirm it. If it If it's not
  621. 18:02your vehicle, then fine and I'll I'll go
  622. 18:05and look back in the video, okay?
  623. 18:06>> I don't know about that.
  624. 18:07>> But, I need a time frame.
  625. 18:08>> probably like 1:00 something.
  626. 18:101:00 something.
  627. 18:12I was at home probably like 2:00. 2:00
  628. 18:14something.
  629. 18:15>> But, I'm saying around what time did you
  630. 18:16go to the party or try and go to it?
  631. 18:18>> It was probably 1:00 something.
  632. 18:21Rode through there. You know the middle
  633. 18:23through in there right there.
  634. 18:26So, soon as I ride through there,
  635. 18:28nothing going on.
  636. 18:31>> So, since you rode there, you couldn't
  637. 18:33see like there was nothing going on.
  638. 18:34>> I rode there, it was no party going on.
  639. 18:36That's when everybody was like That was
  640. 18:38I got on Instagram. I was like, "Oh,
  641. 18:39party over here. Everybody went after
  642. 18:41party." I was like, "Okay." I'm
  643. 18:42thinking, "Can you say after party after
  644. 18:44party?"
  645. 18:45But, I still hear music like up the
  646. 18:47hill. I hear music like rocking.
  647. 18:49I just rode past the white Honda. So, I
  648. 18:52was like, "There ain't no party out
  649. 18:53here."
  650. 18:54So, this car turned up the hill. Next
  651. 18:56thing you know, I hear Fire! Fire! Fire!
  652. 18:58Fire!
  653. 18:59We weren't shooting. I got I got on.
  654. 19:02>> You scared there?
  655. 19:03>> I Yeah, straight.
  656. 19:04>> Okay.
  657. 19:07Okay.
  658. 19:07>> I was in shock when the start when the
  659. 19:09shots let off. You see me on camera
  660. 19:11slamming on brakes, then nobody hang out
  661. 19:13my window.
  662. 19:15I have my gun.
  663. 19:16>> When you slammed When you slammed your
  664. 19:18brakes, where were you?
  665. 19:20>> I was like I just turned down in the
  666. 19:21neighborhood. I'm like in the middle.
  667. 19:23I'm like middle of the road.
  668. 19:25>> Middle of the road?
  669. 19:26>> Yeah, but I'm like on my side of the
  670. 19:27lane, but nobody's on the road. I just
  671. 19:29stopped the car listening to the shots.
  672. 19:33It's crazy you say you got somebody
  673. 19:35hanging out my window.
  674. 19:36>> Well, that that's the thing. Actually,
  675. 19:37if you want, I'll go print a picture and
  676. 19:39I'll show you.
  677. 19:44But
  678. 19:45uh let me go see if there's anything
  679. 19:47else I need to ask you, okay? Just so I
  680. 19:49can
  681. 19:49>> I'm under arrest?
  682. 19:50>> No. No, you're not under arrest, like I
  683. 19:52said.
  684. 19:53>> I'm just being detained.
  685. 19:54>> Just detained right now. I'm trying to
  686. 19:55understand what happened last night,
  687. 19:57okay? I'm talking with you, getting your
  688. 19:59side of it.
  689. 20:00Okay?
  690. 20:01So, let me go see if uh if there's any
  691. 20:03more questions, okay?
  692. 20:05>> Where you going to have us get scared
  693. 20:06while I'm on the phone, brother?
  694. 20:08You look like 200 lbs. Folks on your
  695. 20:10lab.
  696. 20:11>> Well, if I can figure out who she is,
  697. 20:12I'll talk with her, too, okay? And I'll
  698. 20:14see if she's full of it.
  699. 20:15>> Or that dude saying I'm responsible for
  700. 20:17shooting. This crazy.
  701. 20:19>> Okay?
  702. 20:20>> How long you've been sitting combat? You
  703. 20:21can't hurt me, please.
  704. 20:22>> Uh it shouldn't take long, okay? And
  705. 20:24I'll get some cuff keys and I'll move
  706. 20:26them to the front. Okay?
  707. 20:31>> [snorts]
  708. 20:33>> I knew I shouldn't have even rolled
  709. 20:34through there, bro. Yeah, this crazy.
  710. 20:38Talking about some ho hanging out my
  711. 20:39window.
  712. 20:41Bro.
  713. 20:44Ain't nobody that I know shooting. Like,
  714. 20:46what?
  715. 20:50This [ __ ] is crazy, bro.
  716. 20:53All this Somebody said my name.
  717. 20:58Only know uh
  718. 21:02Let me see the phone.
  719. 21:04I didn't know what the other
  720. 21:06person UGA practice field.
  721. 21:09>> Football field?
  722. 21:10>> Yeah.
  723. 21:10>> Right.
  724. 21:11>> Which one did I turn?
  725. 21:13Which one with the light in?
  726. 21:15>> Uh
  727. 21:15there's a light here.
  728. 21:18>> Okay, so you were coming up this way.
  729. 21:20Then we turned past the field.
  730. 21:23And I guess this is where the this is
  731. 21:24where the neighbor is at.
  732. 21:25>> No.
  733. 21:26>> So what?
  734. 21:29Which one the neighbor is at?
  735. 21:31>> That's what I was asking you. Where were
  736. 21:32you driving last night?
  737. 21:34>> I drove up here in the practice field
  738. 21:37with you.
  739. 21:38So my left.
  740. 21:40>> Yeah.
  741. 21:40>> So my
  742. 21:41>> Practice field, if you're driving this
  743. 21:42way, it'll be on your left.
  744. 21:44>> Yeah. And I made a left. And it was a
  745. 21:47little road
  746. 21:48to the right.
  747. 21:50And it was a hill going forward. It's a
  748. 21:52You only can go forward and right unless
  749. 21:53you're going to the school.
  750. 21:56I took a right.
  751. 21:58The other white Honda came out, took
  752. 22:01went up the hill.
  753. 22:02I went down some more, probably about
  754. 22:05a mile and a half down.
  755. 22:07Heard shots, slammed on brakes.
  756. 22:10Probably about 20 more shots.
  757. 22:13Screwed it up.
  758. 22:16Damn.
  759. 22:19>> Do you remember where you stopped?
  760. 22:21>> At the light [clears throat] in front of
  761. 22:22Golden Pantry.
  762. 22:25Beside Golden Pantry.
  763. 22:29I basically went to the square. I wasn't
  764. 22:31even over there for 2 seconds.
  765. 22:33So as I turned over there, it was
  766. 22:34already soon.
  767. 22:37I knew the party was going forward. I
  768. 22:39had it on my map, so UGA graduate sent
  769. 22:41me the address.
  770. 22:42When they started shooting, I turned
  771. 22:44right.
  772. 22:45Past all these houses and kept going
  773. 22:47straight and came out by the Golden
  774. 22:49Pantry.
  775. 22:50Took that right.
  776. 22:52These folks almost hit my car, so I ran
  777. 22:55the light.
  778. 22:56You see me on camera running the light
  779. 22:58cuz somebody almost backed into me.
  780. 23:02See plenty folks scatter.
  781. 23:04So I put my car in the light and I was
  782. 23:06like, "What?"
  783. 23:07There nobody out. There nobody even got
  784. 23:09my window. There nobody shooting on our
  785. 23:11street.
  786. 23:13We was on the same street the shot
  787. 23:14happened, sir.
  788. 23:19>> So I'm going to ask you again.
  789. 23:23Who was in your car?
  790. 23:24>> I was drunk. I said I was drunk.
  791. 23:27I said I don't remember
  792. 23:28I don't remember taking my little
  793. 23:29brother home.
  794. 23:32>> Okay. But when you were when you were
  795. 23:34headed to the party, who was in the car
  796. 23:35with you?
  797. 23:36>> I was drunk. I don't remember. I just
  798. 23:38said I'm going to the I said [ __ ] Oh
  799. 23:40yeah, behold just sent me to drop to the
  800. 23:41party. I'm going to go party with the
  801. 23:43college folks. I forgot who hopped in my
  802. 23:45car with Trump.
  803. 23:47>> Okay, so now there were people in your
  804. 23:49car.
  805. 23:50>> You say you saw them on camera, but
  806. 23:52really I don't even remember. I don't
  807. 23:54know if I dropped them off first or
  808. 23:55Ronald first.
  809. 23:56>> Do you remember shooting someone in the
  810. 23:57head?
  811. 23:58>> No.
  812. 23:59>> Okay. Then who in your car shot someone
  813. 24:02in the head?
  814. 24:03>> There nobody shoot from my car.
  815. 24:06Like this was so crazy. You sound like
  816. 24:07them folks on Instagram. Why do it have
  817. 24:09to be us?
  818. 24:10>> I'm not those folks on the Instagram,
  819. 24:12man.
  820. 24:12>> them folks out there with guns. We
  821. 24:14wasn't shooting.
  822. 24:16They was up the hill shooting.
  823. 24:18>> There was literally someone hanging out
  824. 24:20of your car shooting a rifle, a pistol,
  825. 24:22AR.
  826. 24:24I can see the full gun.
  827. 24:28So I need you to be honest with me. If
  828. 24:31it was an accident, it was an accident.
  829. 24:32If someone was shooting at y'all and
  830. 24:33y'all were shooting back, whatever.
  831. 24:36But I need honesty.
  832. 24:38I can't I can't keep getting BS because
  833. 24:40it's not going to help you.
  834. 24:41>> I'm not giving you BS. I was driving. I
  835. 24:43didn't hear no gunshots coming out of my
  836. 24:45car. I would have heard the gunshot.
  837. 24:48I would have heard shots. When no shots
  838. 24:50right beside me.
  839. 24:51All I heard was shots from up the hill.
  840. 24:54Ain't no way nobody from my car could
  841. 24:56shoot somebody. Listen, Who was the only
  842. 24:58car on the street?
  843. 25:00Where is the Where Where are the people
  844. 25:01we shooting at? The party was up the
  845. 25:03hill.
  846. 25:05We wasn't on the street the party was
  847. 25:06on. I had the address. The party was
  848. 25:08straight.
  849. 25:10I was I turned right.
  850. 25:13It's a whole another road, empty road.
  851. 25:15Like
  852. 25:16>> And then all of a sudden you heard
  853. 25:17gunshots.
  854. 25:18>> What you mean all of a sudden?
  855. 25:20>> I'm saying you turned right and then all
  856. 25:21of a sudden you heard gunshots, right?
  857. 25:23>> Yeah.
  858. 25:23>> And you stopped in your lane in the
  859. 25:26middle of the road
  860. 25:27because you didn't know where the
  861. 25:28gunshots were coming from, right?
  862. 25:30>> Yeah, but I know they ain't coming from
  863. 25:32our from nowhere near I know they ain't
  864. 25:34coming at us or for us cuz ain't nobody
  865. 25:36else on the road.
  866. 25:37There's nobody else on the road.
  867. 25:38>> And when we look at your car there
  868. 25:40aren't going to be any bullet holes or
  869. 25:41anything?
  870. 25:41>> No.
  871. 25:43That's what I'm telling you. I was
  872. 25:43nowhere near the shooting.
  873. 25:45I was just looking I looked at my car
  874. 25:47and everything at home. [clears throat]
  875. 25:48>> And if I were to do a GSR test on your
  876. 25:50hands, would it come back with gunshot
  877. 25:52residue?
  878. 25:53>> I don't know.
  879. 25:54>> Cuz it lasts pretty pretty long.
  880. 25:56>> No, listen. I didn't shoot.
  881. 25:58>> It shouldn't or it won't?
  882. 26:00>> It's not.
  883. 26:02Damn. All right.
  884. 26:04I'm still on both sides, like
  885. 26:08>> How much you have to drink?
  886. 26:10>> A lot. I was with some girls. I was with
  887. 26:12Shawty.
  888. 26:14Like what?
  889. 26:17[ __ ] is crazy, bro.
  890. 26:19You thought I really came to pick me up
  891. 26:21about this.
  892. 26:23>> Well, you know that person
  893. 26:25is in critical condition right now,
  894. 26:26right?
  895. 26:27>> I don't know who got shot.
  896. 26:29I don't even know.
  897. 26:32Stupid bugs.
  898. 26:34Um
  899. 26:39I just want to know who I hurt.
  900. 26:40>> You said those the people at the party
  901. 26:42don't get along with you or your
  902. 26:43friends, right?
  903. 26:45>> Yeah, but I didn't find out it was their
  904. 26:46party till after the shooting happened.
  905. 26:49And everybody sending me this girl eyes.
  906. 26:51I'm like, "Why why she saying your name.
  907. 26:53>> Who is that girl? Is she related to
  908. 26:56anyone? Like
  909. 26:58>> Nah, I don't even know her Instagram cuz
  910. 27:00they had her page private.
  911. 27:02>> Okay.
  912. 27:03>> even get to see it. I woke up early this
  913. 27:05in the morning. They told me that she
  914. 27:06did a shoot with my Mojo going off on me
  915. 27:08about it.
  916. 27:09>> Do you have your phone with you?
  917. 27:11>> No.
  918. 27:11>> No?
  919. 27:12Do you have the keys to the car?
  920. 27:14>> No.
  921. 27:14>> In your pocket?
  922. 27:15>> No.
  923. 27:16>> No?
  924. 27:22>> Like this is crazy.
  925. 27:25>> Well, then they'll probably end up just
  926. 27:27uh
  927. 27:28popping the door open.
  928. 27:31Do you know where the keys are?
  929. 27:33To the car?
  930. 27:34>> I don't [clears throat] know. My guy got
  931. 27:35them.
  932. 27:36>> Okay.
  933. 27:41So, can you run me through last night
  934. 27:43again?
  935. 27:45>> Yeah, I'm in there
  936. 27:47talking to my friend girl.
  937. 27:49>> What's that? And around what time did
  938. 27:51that like did you start your night?
  939. 27:54>> We was gambling for hours.
  940. 27:57Yeah, somebody just wanted to meet me in
  941. 28:00the building.
  942. 28:01So, I came I went to the building. She
  943. 28:02ain't never come.
  944. 28:05She ain't never come. I was just sitting
  945. 28:07out there.
  946. 28:09Went to the house, got some clothes,
  947. 28:13came back.
  948. 28:15>> Went to whose house? Your house?
  949. 28:17>> Yeah.
  950. 28:18I went back.
  951. 28:20Sitting out there still bored. The boy
  952. 28:22heard like to one song two songs.
  953. 28:25>> Are you able to put times to these?
  954. 28:29>> I was there like one song or two.
  955. 28:32I know it was in between one and two.
  956. 28:37Then we see these folks online.
  957. 28:39And then UJ video follow me like she
  958. 28:41here pull up.
  959. 28:43I'm seeing I'm seeing like a frat boy. I
  960. 28:45don't even see no black folks. People
  961. 28:46don't me. I wasn't even to it up.
  962. 28:49That's 101, duh. Why would I come? Play
  963. 28:52y'all for don't like me.
  964. 28:54Anyway, I come You know it's only like 2
  965. 28:563 minutes away from the Bethel. It don't
  966. 28:58take you no time to get there. I'm like,
  967. 28:59damn, the party right here.
  968. 29:01There you got to be some college folks.
  969. 29:03Boom, turn.
  970. 29:05Party there. Where the party? It's
  971. 29:07crickets. Street dead. Nobody's on this
  972. 29:09street.
  973. 29:11Next thing you know, I hear the loud
  974. 29:12music from up the hill.
  975. 29:14Boom, you don't hear no music on my end.
  976. 29:16Boom boom boom boom boom boom.
  977. 29:18He ain't shoot no more than like 15
  978. 29:20times. I don't know where you getting 30
  979. 29:22from.
  980. 29:23I only heard like 10 shots, 15 shots.
  981. 29:26Not straight up.
  982. 29:31So, my almost hit my car at a red light,
  983. 29:33ran red light.
  984. 29:34Where was that at?
  985. 29:36Beside Golden Pantry on Millage. You'll
  986. 29:38see it on camera.
  987. 29:39>> Okay. So, I'll go to Golden Pantry and
  988. 29:41I'll see that.
  989. 29:42>> Yeah, you'll see me running the red
  990. 29:43light cuz that fool just started
  991. 29:45shooting.
  992. 29:47>> Okay.
  993. 29:49Um
  994. 29:53Who stays off of uh
  995. 29:55Conrad and MOK? You drive up that way a
  996. 29:58little bit.
  997. 30:00Pretty often.
  998. 30:01>> Conrad and MOK?
  999. 30:02>> Mhm. Towards 441.
  1000. 30:05The road you take to Commerce.
  1001. 30:07>> Commerce?
  1002. 30:07>> Yeah.
  1003. 30:08>> I just take that way to get out of the
  1004. 30:09highway and go to the Bethel.
  1005. 30:13>> Okay.
  1006. 30:17>> Unless you talking about another way.
  1007. 30:19Sometimes I be on Commerce Road.
  1008. 30:22Going to the Bethel.
  1009. 30:24>> So, what were you doing last night when
  1010. 30:26uh you had gotten out of your car at
  1011. 30:27Bethel and then went over to another car
  1012. 30:29and you looked like you were putting
  1013. 30:30stuff in that car.
  1014. 30:33>> The stuff in the other car? Out of my
  1015. 30:35car and into another car?
  1016. 30:36>> Yeah.
  1017. 30:37>> I never did I got in the car with Myron.
  1018. 30:40>> With Myron at Bethel?
  1019. 30:41>> Yeah, I told you [ __ ] Yeah. I told you.
  1020. 30:45Okay. So it makes sense. You keep saying
  1021. 30:48my story ain't up, but he pulled up out
  1022. 30:50there right after.
  1023. 30:51What were you wearing last night?
  1024. 30:53Um.
  1025. 30:56A blue shirt.
  1026. 30:58A blue [clears throat] uh long-sleeve
  1027. 31:00blue shirt and
  1028. 31:01uh
  1029. 31:02and uh some Js and a ski mask.
  1030. 31:06Okay, and what kind of shorts or pants?
  1031. 31:09I had on some uh regular black pants.
  1032. 31:11Regular black pants? Yeah, some black
  1033. 31:13ones. And a ski mask? Yeah. Is that a
  1034. 31:16normal thing?
  1035. 31:17It is. It is like a regular thing. Well,
  1036. 31:20I'm saying like especially if it's cold.
  1037. 31:23Yeah.
  1038. 31:25I was about to sleep there, but I put on
  1039. 31:27my hoodie and my ski because it got cold
  1040. 31:29outside.
  1041. 31:30It did get cold.
  1042. 31:36This is crazy.
  1043. 31:38Time really ain't it.
  1044. 31:40Me
  1045. 31:41and all people.
  1046. 31:43I know all of the people that I like.
  1047. 31:45This wild.
  1048. 31:51I know it's all mostly four people on
  1049. 31:53camera.
  1050. 31:54They coming at me. So
  1051. 31:56you're saying that because of one person
  1052. 31:59on Instagram said something, you're now
  1053. 32:00in here?
  1054. 32:02Cuz we didn't even know that she had
  1055. 32:03said anything. We got to the conclusion
  1056. 32:05we got to.
  1057. 32:07But I didn't say cuz of that one person.
  1058. 32:09We got to the conclusion that we're at
  1059. 32:12based on actual video footage. Okay?
  1060. 32:15Actual investigative means. Yeah, I
  1061. 32:17understand it. You know,
  1062. 32:19it's it's it's not some he said, she
  1063. 32:21said. I know. I didn't say it was. I'm
  1064. 32:23saying it's crazy that just cuz my car
  1065. 32:25was on camera that it was me.
  1066. 32:28And my folks today was a million. Well,
  1067. 32:30the way
  1068. 32:31Sorry. The way that it lines up time
  1069. 32:33wise
  1070. 32:35um I'll tell you it doesn't look good.
  1071. 32:39Not at all.
  1072. 32:41Because we can account for your car
  1073. 32:43minute by minute.
  1074. 32:45Before the shooting, through the
  1075. 32:47shooting, and after.
  1076. 32:49So, that's that's what I'm trying to
  1077. 32:51understand is is you had people in your
  1078. 32:54car. I know that. Okay, I don't know why
  1079. 32:56you were telling me
  1080. 32:57>> brother Whitney, but I don't even
  1081. 32:58remember which one.
  1082. 32:59>> Who's You don't even remember which
  1083. 33:01little brother?
  1084. 33:01>> It's just how it went. Y'all got plenty
  1085. 33:03little brothers and brothers only had
  1086. 33:04hot in the car and took them to plenty
  1087. 33:05parties.
  1088. 33:06>> And then Myron was in the car.
  1089. 33:08>> Myron Whitney.
  1090. 33:09Myron met me in the bathroom right after
  1091. 33:11the road back in there. Rode back.
  1092. 33:13>> After the shooting?
  1093. 33:15>> After Yeah, shooting happened. I didn't
  1094. 33:17see the shooting. I just heard it.
  1095. 33:19>> That's cuz you were part of it.
  1096. 33:22>> You swear I was part of it, but I
  1097. 33:23wasn't. Then I I'm telling you the
  1098. 33:25street was empty. I didn't even get to
  1099. 33:27see the party. You telling me you saw my
  1100. 33:30car on the street of the party, but it
  1101. 33:31wasn't.
  1102. 33:32I was on the whole another street. The
  1103. 33:33shooting happened up the hill.
  1104. 33:36You see me stop my car and listen to the
  1105. 33:38shots.
  1106. 33:39>> Yeah, I see you stop your car, listen to
  1107. 33:42the shots.
  1108. 33:43And then whoever's in the front
  1109. 33:45passenger seat
  1110. 33:46leans out of the window, leans over the
  1111. 33:48top of the car with an AR pistol
  1112. 33:51and starts blasting rounds off. Okay?
  1113. 33:55And there's a photo of you on your
  1114. 33:57Instagram holding a Draco or one of your
  1115. 33:59friends is holding a Draco. Do you own
  1116. 34:01one?
  1117. 34:01>> No.
  1118. 34:02>> No?
  1119. 34:02>> That was a probably a a music video.
  1120. 34:05>> Okay, so it would be a prop.
  1121. 34:09>> Whatever you want to call it. I know I
  1122. 34:10ain't got no Draco. They searching my
  1123. 34:12house right now. You ain't going to find
  1124. 34:13nothing like that.
  1125. 34:14>> Okay.
  1126. 34:15>> And my car ain't going to be nothing
  1127. 34:17like I didn't do nothing.
  1128. 34:18>> So, in your car we won't find any shell
  1129. 34:19casings or anything like that.
  1130. 34:21>> No. Probably probably some live some
  1131. 34:23live nine bullets.
  1132. 34:25>> Okay.
  1133. 34:26>> From my gun, but not anything from no
  1134. 34:28ARP.
  1135. 34:29>> Okay.
  1136. 34:30>> It'll be crazy.
  1137. 34:34You saying my story and everything. I
  1138. 34:35see what you saying.
  1139. 34:36>> I mean that
  1140. 34:37>> The time frame, you right.
  1141. 34:38>> I mean that's what looks bad, okay?
  1142. 34:39>> Yeah, that that do look bad. I ain't
  1143. 34:41going to lie. The time frame may be
  1144. 34:42That's what I said the same thing. Soon
  1145. 34:44as we turn out here these folks shoot.
  1146. 34:46But what's so crazy happened on the
  1147. 34:48whole another street. Like my alibi
  1148. 34:51whatever it's supposed to be called is
  1149. 34:52making sense. The shooting happened on
  1150. 34:54the whole another street. And then if my
  1151. 34:56little brother did hang out the window
  1152. 34:58and shoot there wasn't nothing to shoot
  1153. 35:00at. So he's [ __ ] The street was
  1154. 35:02empty. If you look at somebody other
  1155. 35:03than your camera you won't see no other
  1156. 35:05cars on the street.
  1157. 35:07>> Well, whoever hung out that window shot
  1158. 35:08someone in the head. So
  1159. 35:10they found something to shoot at.
  1160. 35:12>> How would you shoot somebody in the head
  1161. 35:13nobody was out there?
  1162. 35:16>> That's what I'm trying to understand.
  1163. 35:18>> The shooting happened at the party. The
  1164. 35:20girls these females just told me.
  1165. 35:23These girls just told me
  1166. 35:25that that the shooting happened at the
  1167. 35:27party. All these girls woke up telling
  1168. 35:28me this morning.
  1169. 35:30She said, "I don't know why they saying
  1170. 35:31your name. I didn't even see your car."
  1171. 35:33>> So would you just say that it just
  1172. 35:35happens to be a bad coincidence that you
  1173. 35:37were around the area at the time that
  1174. 35:38you were?
  1175. 35:39>> Yes, so let me know why I pulled up.
  1176. 35:41That's so crazy.
  1177. 35:44So I don't know why I went.
  1178. 35:46I'm trying to know.
  1179. 35:47You know how they used to say girl lied.
  1180. 35:49So I'm calling her right now.
  1181. 35:51For real.
  1182. 35:52>> I mean you think someone was setting you
  1183. 35:53up?
  1184. 35:54>> Nah, I think it was a coincidence but
  1185. 35:56like you said there ain't no way the
  1186. 35:58party been going on all these hours and
  1187. 35:59we turn
  1188. 36:01shooting going on.
  1189. 36:03But it's crazy.
  1190. 36:04>> I would think the the likelihood of
  1191. 36:09um
  1192. 36:11just the totality of the circumstances
  1193. 36:15is real real tough in my mind for it to
  1194. 36:17just be a coincidence. That's that's the
  1195. 36:19hard part for me to understand. Just
  1196. 36:21because of the timeline, the timing of
  1197. 36:23everything. I asked you where you went
  1198. 36:25beforehand. You didn't tell me about
  1199. 36:27Bethel. Now you're you're Okay, you'll
  1200. 36:30tell me about Bethel.
  1201. 36:31>> Well, I would have been still at Bethel
  1202. 36:32all night.
  1203. 36:33>> Oh, no, I'm not saying you stayed, but I
  1204. 36:34I need to know exactly what you were
  1205. 36:37doing the whole night because if I'm
  1206. 36:39able to build a timeline and part of
  1207. 36:42that timeline is able to be corroborated
  1208. 36:44and I can say you weren't part of
  1209. 36:46anything.
  1210. 36:47You didn't do it. Then I can be like,
  1211. 36:49"Okay, he's done. I'm going to start
  1212. 36:51talking to other people."
  1213. 36:53Because I don't want to have to sit here
  1214. 36:54and keep talking to someone if they
  1215. 36:55weren't part of it.
  1216. 36:57Right?
  1217. 36:57>> Right.
  1218. 36:58>> But if you were part of it, I would
  1219. 37:00expect you to be honest with me.
  1220. 37:03And even if you didn't shoot, take
  1221. 37:04responsibility
  1222. 37:06and talk with me about it.
  1223. 37:08Okay?
  1224. 37:09If one of your friends was stupid and
  1225. 37:11did something stupid, so be it.
  1226. 37:14But you don't have to ride for him.
  1227. 37:17>> You're right.
  1228. 37:17>> Okay?
  1229. 37:18Cuz I don't see any of your friends in
  1230. 37:20here talking with me.
  1231. 37:22I don't see any of them coming to your
  1232. 37:24aid.
  1233. 37:25No one's stepping up.
  1234. 37:27>> You're right.
  1235. 37:27>> You're the only one here talking with
  1236. 37:29me.
  1237. 37:30Okay?
  1238. 37:31So, is there anything else you want to
  1239. 37:32tell me and you want to be honest with
  1240. 37:34me about?
  1241. 37:35This That's going to be the hard part
  1242. 37:37here.
  1243. 37:38Honesty.
  1244. 37:40>> I told you everything. I didn't see I
  1245. 37:42didn't see nobody doing no [ __ ] out of
  1246. 37:43my car. And if they did,
  1247. 37:46it wasn't no Draco and rifles in my car.
  1248. 37:49Only kind of gun that was in my that was
  1249. 37:51in the car was
  1250. 37:53a nine.
  1251. 37:54And it was my nine.
  1252. 37:55>> Could it have been an AR pistol nine?
  1253. 37:57>> No, regular nine. Regular Glock nine.
  1254. 38:00>> Okay.
  1255. 38:01>> And then I put it
  1256. 38:02then my gun I checked my gun when we
  1257. 38:04left.
  1258. 38:05If he shot Yeah, he shot it in the air
  1259. 38:08one time. My gun
  1260. 38:10I just loaded up my gun. My gun got
  1261. 38:12every round in it.
  1262. 38:13>> Where is your gun right now? Is it at
  1263. 38:14your house?
  1264. 38:15>> I'm trying to
  1265. 38:17I think I think I left it with my little
  1266. 38:18brother.
  1267. 38:19>> You think you left it with your little
  1268. 38:20brother?
  1269. 38:20>> Yeah, cuz I tried to call him for him
  1270. 38:22but I tried to run and I see where it
  1271. 38:23was at. I didn't see it in the
  1272. 38:24>> find it.
  1273. 38:25>> Okay.
  1274. 38:27Well, we'll probably end up getting that
  1275. 38:28from him.
  1276. 38:30And then we'll test fire it. And if it
  1277. 38:33comes back matching any of the casings
  1278. 38:35on the scene, I think you're going to
  1279. 38:36have some more to explain.
  1280. 38:39Okay?
  1281. 38:40Because
  1282. 38:42um we've already collected a couple
  1283. 38:43guns.
  1284. 38:45And all we have to do is compare those
  1285. 38:47shell casings from those guns to the
  1286. 38:49ones on the scene.
  1287. 38:50And it's it's pretty simple.
  1288. 38:53Huh?
  1289. 38:54>> Collect the guns from who?
  1290. 38:55>> Your friends, the houses, everywhere.
  1291. 38:58>> Oh, they're not my
  1292. 38:59folks. They got a lot of them in my
  1293. 39:00apartment. I didn't know that happened
  1294. 39:01since some females got them. So, they're
  1295. 39:03not my friends. You know what I'm
  1296. 39:05saying? They was up there shooting. I
  1297. 39:07didn't I wasn't nowhere near the
  1298. 39:09shooting.
  1299. 39:10>> Where's your Where's your brother stay,
  1300. 39:12the one that has your gun?
  1301. 39:15>> Uh he got I don't know where he at right
  1302. 39:17now.
  1303. 39:18>> Bethel?
  1304. 39:20>> I don't know. He probably out there. He
  1305. 39:21hang out there. He don't really show
  1306. 39:23nobody where he stay. If folks don't
  1307. 39:25take care of him.
  1308. 39:26>> What's his name?
  1309. 39:27>> He go around the house to house.
  1310. 39:34>> What's his name?
  1311. 39:35>> Oh.
  1312. 39:36I don't know. I just call him son.
  1313. 39:38I don't even call him by his real name.
  1314. 39:40They call him my little son.
  1315. 39:42>> Any other nicknames?
  1316. 39:51>> But he didn't shoot my gun. That's what
  1317. 39:53I'm saying. He saying somebody let off
  1318. 39:55shots from a ARP from my car.
  1319. 39:58>> Mhm.
  1320. 39:59>> I would have heard that. I would have
  1321. 40:00heard a stick getting shot beside me.
  1322. 40:03I definitely would have heard it. All I
  1323. 40:05hear is shots from afar.
  1324. 40:09And I'm pulling right over. That's what
  1325. 40:10I'm saying. On the cameras, can you not
  1326. 40:12hear the shots still going on?
  1327. 40:14>> Oh yeah, no, I can hear them. And it's
  1328. 40:16it's literally back and forth. I'll be
  1329. 40:19honest with you, it's back and forth.
  1330. 40:20>> You know what I'm saying? If it was
  1331. 40:21going back and forth, we would have got
  1332. 40:23hit. There's no shells, no nothing.
  1333. 40:25>> Well, either y'all would have gotten hit
  1334. 40:26or the other person is a horrible shot.
  1335. 40:29>> He didn't Didn't nobody shoot. You know,
  1336. 40:32he or she didn't shoot.
  1337. 40:34I didn't get to see no I didn't see no
  1338. 40:36shots. I only heard them.
  1339. 40:38>> So, what are you saying there? He didn't
  1340. 40:40>> No. I'm not saying
  1341. 40:42>> Finish the sentence.
  1342. 40:44>> I'll finish to say I didn't see he or
  1343. 40:47she anybody shooting. I would have saw
  1344. 40:49the shots. I don't saw plenty shootouts.
  1345. 40:51You would have saw some fires, some
  1346. 40:53shells, some anything. All you hear is
  1347. 40:56gunshots. You don't hear no bullets in
  1348. 40:58the ground or nothing.
  1349. 40:59>> Yeah.
  1350. 40:59>> I've been around shootouts.
  1351. 41:02Like I know what is going on.
  1352. 41:04I wasn't on the same street that the
  1353. 41:06shooting happened, sir. That's the
  1354. 41:07truth. Just
  1355. 41:08>> I wish you'd be honest. That's the hard
  1356. 41:10part.
  1357. 41:11Well, no. Look, man, I've got a lot of
  1358. 41:14training
  1359. 41:16when it comes to
  1360. 41:19just facial cues and the way people say
  1361. 41:21things and how you're talking.
  1362. 41:24Okay? One, I can tell you're nervous.
  1363. 41:26That's fine because most people are.
  1364. 41:29>> I'm nervous. I know all of it. Eye
  1365. 41:30contact and all of it. It don't mean
  1366. 41:32nothing.
  1367. 41:33>> I know. It's not eye contact, man.
  1368. 41:35>> Eye contact I'm talking about I'm
  1369. 41:36>> What I want
  1370. 41:37>> over.
  1371. 41:38>> What I'm trying to tell you is I don't I
  1372. 41:40don't care if you're hung over. That's
  1373. 41:41fine. You can stare at the wall if you
  1374. 41:42talk to me. That's fine.
  1375. 41:43>> I'm [snorts] hung over.
  1376. 41:44>> What I am telling you is is I do not
  1377. 41:46believe what you're telling me.
  1378. 41:49I have a hard time believing it because
  1379. 41:50it just doesn't add up.
  1380. 41:55And I want to give you one more chance
  1381. 41:56to be completely honest with me about
  1382. 41:58what happened last night because if
  1383. 42:02he doesn't make it
  1384. 42:05someone is looking at a murder charge,
  1385. 42:07okay? And I need to understand what
  1386. 42:09happened last night.
  1387. 42:11If it wasn't you, it wasn't you.
  1388. 42:14But if you were there
  1389. 42:16and you saw something,
  1390. 42:18I need to know.
  1391. 42:21That's what's important here.
  1392. 42:23Okay? This is so much more than just,
  1393. 42:26you know, us sitting in a room and
  1394. 42:28chit-chatting.
  1395. 42:28>> Of course.
  1396. 42:29>> Okay?
  1397. 42:30Murder is a big thing.
  1398. 42:31>> Yes, but I'm not.
  1399. 42:33>> But it's it's serious and you know that.
  1400. 42:35No, no, no, I know, okay?
  1401. 42:37So, my thing is is
  1402. 42:39I want to understand what actually
  1403. 42:41happened last night, okay? You've told
  1404. 42:43me some things that I I agree with and I
  1405. 42:45can tell you, okay, yeah, that makes
  1406. 42:47sense, okay?
  1407. 42:49But there are some parts that don't make
  1408. 42:50sense to me.
  1409. 42:51So, can you clear that up for me?
  1410. 42:55>> What What What parts you want me to
  1411. 42:56clear?
  1412. 42:57>> Why was someone hanging out of your car
  1413. 42:59shooting, okay?
  1414. 43:01That's what I want to understand.
  1415. 43:03Was someone shooting at y'all
  1416. 43:05beforehand?
  1417. 43:06>> No.
  1418. 43:07>> No?
  1419. 43:08Then what happened?
  1420. 43:10>> I don't know. I guess my little brother
  1421. 43:13shot in the air.
  1422. 43:15He shot one time. It wasn't no ARP in my
  1423. 43:17car. It wasn't nothing in my car but my
  1424. 43:20Glock 9.
  1425. 43:21No ARP, no Draco, no none of that.
  1426. 43:24All the thing was in my car was my
  1427. 43:25Glock. My little brother don't got no
  1428. 43:27gun.
  1429. 43:28It's just me solo.
  1430. 43:32But before any shots let off,
  1431. 43:34I didn't get to see no party.
  1432. 43:37>> Yeah.
  1433. 43:37>> It wasn't no party. So, I'm saying I
  1434. 43:39guess they already went to
  1435. 43:41Athens Garner or whatever. I didn't
  1436. 43:42really I didn't know that till we got
  1437. 43:44back to Bethel Homes.
  1438. 43:45They said after party thing.
  1439. 43:47Whatever they call it.
  1440. 43:49But I know they was talking about Athens
  1441. 43:51Garner.
  1442. 43:52>> I want to ask, if we go through the
  1443. 43:53phone, is there anything on there that
  1444. 43:55we're going to find that uh
  1445. 43:57that might be interesting or
  1446. 44:00>> No.
  1447. 44:01>> No?
  1448. 44:02>> They receive phone texts me about it and
  1449. 44:03I'm telling them that's crazy. I ain't
  1450. 44:05had nothing to do with it.
  1451. 44:06>> Yeah.
  1452. 44:07>> Telling them why they I'm telling my
  1453. 44:09ex-girlfriend why you let that girl get
  1454. 44:10on live and say my name about the
  1455. 44:11shooting. Like this crazy.
  1456. 44:14>> Wow.
  1457. 44:14>> I didn't even get to see none of y'all.
  1458. 44:16That's what I'm saying. The party was
  1459. 44:17packed.
  1460. 44:18I'm telling you. I got plenty females,
  1461. 44:20sir.
  1462. 44:21Everybody was at the party.
  1463. 44:24That's how I knew
  1464. 44:26where the party at. That's why I
  1465. 44:27actually turned off. Soon as I turned,
  1466. 44:30boom. Okay, I said you said that looked
  1467. 44:32bad. We only been here 30 seconds. Now
  1468. 44:34y'all already shooting.
  1469. 44:36And I didn't even get to see no party,
  1470. 44:37but you can hear the shells. Man, not
  1471. 44:40the shells, you hear the shots from a
  1472. 44:41whole another street. They going up the
  1473. 44:43hill. All you hear is shots from up the
  1474. 44:45hill.
  1475. 44:46I'm I'm still down here by the field on
  1476. 44:48the main not on the main road, but like
  1477. 44:50I'm just neighborhood across from the
  1478. 44:52field.
  1479. 44:54Just stopped my car. Damn, little bro,
  1480. 44:57you heard them shots?
  1481. 45:01When none of my All I have is my Glock.
  1482. 45:03Now they found my Glock. Now you will
  1483. 45:04see. It haven't been shot. It's not
  1484. 45:07missing no rounds.
  1485. 45:11That's why I said if my little brother
  1486. 45:13shot, he probably shot in one time.
  1487. 45:14I got to the house, I was missing a
  1488. 45:16bullet.
  1489. 45:17But if he shot, he probably shot in the
  1490. 45:19air. Just want to shoot a gun.
  1491. 45:22>> Okay.
  1492. 45:23>> He don't murder somebody. It wasn't
  1493. 45:24nobody to shoot at, sir.
  1494. 45:27That's the truth. The God and the truth.
  1495. 45:30Didn't nobody shoot at us. There's not
  1496. 45:31no bullet holes in my car.
  1497. 45:33It wasn't no back and forth.
  1498. 45:35Like that's the truth. Telling you
  1499. 45:38nothing but the truth.
  1500. 45:40I didn't even know nobody died or got
  1501. 45:41shot.
  1502. 45:43I didn't even know that till everybody
  1503. 45:44wake up texting me about this girl
  1504. 45:46alive.
  1505. 45:49>> Okay.
  1506. 45:57Okay.
  1507. 45:58I'll just hang tight for a minute, okay?
  1508. 46:01>> I'm cold. How long I got to sit in here?
  1509. 46:04>> You cold?
  1510. 46:05>> Yeah.
  1511. 46:05>> Okay.
  1512. 46:06Uh I'll see if I can try and turn the
  1513. 46:08air up for you, okay?
  1514. 46:09>> How long I got to sit in here?
  1515. 46:10>> I I don't think too long, but I can't
  1516. 46:13promise, okay?
  1517. 46:14>> So, I'm going to go home or what?
  1518. 46:16>> Um let me talk with them, but I mean
  1519. 46:19right now you're just detained, okay?
  1520. 46:26>> She is crazy, bro.
  1521. 46:29Nobody hang out my window.
  1522. 46:31I'm
  1523. 46:33>> Just got a couple more questions, okay?
  1524. 46:37So,
  1525. 46:39your gun.
  1526. 46:42Um where should it be now?
  1527. 46:46Your 9 mm.
  1528. 46:48>> Uh I went in the homes. You know, I
  1529. 46:50looked for it the other night, man. I
  1530. 46:52mean, yeah. You know, I just pulled up.
  1531. 46:53I read my I'm looking for it. It's on
  1532. 46:55the floor.
  1533. 46:56>> Oh, really?
  1534. 46:57We have you on video running out the
  1535. 46:59back door and throwing it in a garbage
  1536. 47:00can.
  1537. 47:02Don't look at me like that, man.
  1538. 47:03>> What?
  1539. 47:04>> Yes.
  1540. 47:05Don't look at me like that. Don't
  1541. 47:07[ __ ] me anymore.
  1542. 47:08Okay? I just watched it.
  1543. 47:12We literally have drone footage.
  1544. 47:14>> I I
  1545. 47:14>> Okay?
  1546. 47:15>> Okay, that's right.
  1547. 47:15>> You ran out back and you threw it in the
  1548. 47:17garbage can. They just found it.
  1549. 47:19>> Okay, that's right. That I did.
  1550. 47:21>> Okay, then why lie to me, man? You've
  1551. 47:22been lying to me this whole time. Stop
  1552. 47:24bullshitting me.
  1553. 47:25>> Why?
  1554. 47:26>> Don't No, look at me.
  1555. 47:27Stop bullshitting me.
  1556. 47:29>> Not bullshitting cuz I tried to hide my
  1557. 47:30own
  1558. 47:31cuz I tried to hide my cuz that's the
  1559. 47:32only thing I was lying about.
  1560. 47:34>> The only thing?
  1561. 47:35>> Yeah, what are you talking about? I just
  1562. 47:37told you the whole truth. I thought
  1563. 47:38>> The whole truth on everything. You said
  1564. 47:40no one was in your car, then you said
  1565. 47:42your brother came, then you said your
  1566. 47:44little brother was in your car.
  1567. 47:45>> I said I was drunk. I don't know.
  1568. 47:46>> Then you said you were drunk, then you
  1569. 47:48said no one shot, then you said someone
  1570. 47:50could have shot cuz one round's missing
  1571. 47:52from your gun.
  1572. 47:54>> Yeah, but I didn't I just keep saying I
  1573. 47:55didn't hear nobody shooting my car.
  1574. 47:58>> Okay.
  1575. 47:58>> Hey, my Glock 9 shoot smooth, so I
  1576. 48:01probably wouldn't heard it. And it's
  1577. 48:03only one round missing. I had 24 rounds
  1578. 48:06and I had 25.
  1579. 48:07>> You're a horrible liar, dude.
  1580. 48:09Shh, horrible.
  1581. 48:11>> Dude, I can't stand the police. Why you
  1582. 48:12want to I don't
  1583. 48:13>> No, I want you to be honest with me.
  1584. 48:15>> to me, dude. I'm starting to tell you
  1585. 48:16the truth, you going to keep saying I'm
  1586. 48:17lying. That's going to piss me off, bro.
  1587. 48:20>> Okay. Then look.
  1588. 48:21>> the truth.
  1589. 48:23Bro, you going to keep thinking if you
  1590. 48:24Stop talking to me, you think that I'm
  1591. 48:26telling you a lie, dude. But that's
  1592. 48:27going to blow up.
  1593. 48:28>> You've already lied to me a couple
  1594. 48:29times, so what am I supposed to think?
  1595. 48:31Think about that.
  1596. 48:33If I were to lie to you a couple times,
  1597. 48:35how are you going to believe me?
  1598. 48:36Right?
  1599. 48:37>> I lied to you about one thing, the gun.
  1600. 48:40I was drunk. I'm still hungover. I
  1601. 48:42forgot my little brother was in the car.
  1602. 48:43Wasn't no ARP in the car. We wasn't on
  1603. 48:46the same street that the shooting
  1604. 48:47happened.
  1605. 48:48>> No, you weren't.
  1606. 48:49Because y'all were shooting across the
  1607. 48:51street at each other.
  1608. 48:52>> Across the street? Dude, I was in the
  1609. 48:54middle of the road. The shooting
  1610. 48:56happened up the hill.
  1611. 48:57>> Yeah, they were shooting at you and you
  1612. 48:59were shooting at them.
  1613. 49:01>> At who? There was no more people on the
  1614. 49:03street with us, dude. Like, what is
  1615. 49:05wrong with you? I keep telling you the
  1616. 49:07street was empty. The street was empty.
  1617. 49:10No one was on the street with us. We
  1618. 49:12didn't get to see the party. The party
  1619. 49:14had half of Adams in it. We would have
  1620. 49:16saw the party. It was no party.
  1621. 49:19>> It's cuz everyone was inside of the
  1622. 49:20house.
  1623. 49:21>> We would have saw cars, music. Everybody
  1624. 49:24was going to Adams and going. It was
  1625. 49:25over with. I didn't even go where the
  1626. 49:27party was. I turned on a whole 'nother
  1627. 49:30street. The shooting happened on the top
  1628. 49:31of the hill. I see it's a hill and a
  1629. 49:33turn. I went to the turn. The shooting
  1630. 49:35happened up there.
  1631. 49:37Like, what like
  1632. 49:39He's a tip of like crazy, bro.
  1633. 49:42Shh, you need to question the folk that
  1634. 49:44was at the party shooting. I've already
  1635. 49:46interviewed all of them, man.
  1636. 49:47Good. This is crazy. I'm
  1637. 49:50I'm innocent.
  1638. 49:51And I'mma stand on it. That's the truth.
  1639. 49:53I'm innocent.
  1640. 49:54I didn't kill nobody. Nobody My little
  1641. 49:57brother definitely should nobody. They
  1642. 49:59got my gun.
  1643. 50:01I said I had 25 rounds in it.
  1644. 50:02>> Okay. So, what we'll do is we'll shoot
  1645. 50:05your gun and we'll test it and we'll
  1646. 50:06compare it to the showcase ins on the
  1647. 50:08scene, okay?
  1648. 50:08>> Okay, we compare it.
  1649. 50:10>> Okay.
  1650. 50:11And if they match,
  1651. 50:14are you going to
  1652. 50:15what are you going to say?
  1653. 50:16>> It's crazy.
  1654. 50:17>> It's crazy cuz it shouldn't?
  1655. 50:19>> Yes. I mean, it probably can't cuz it's
  1656. 50:21a nine. Everybody has a nine. What How
  1657. 50:23you doing?
  1658. 50:23>> No, it's not that simple. There When
  1659. 50:27your gun shoots, okay?
  1660. 50:30A firing pin
  1661. 50:32hits the uh
  1662. 50:33the primer on the round, okay? And it
  1663. 50:36creates a special shape and a design,
  1664. 50:39okay? Each gun is specific.
  1665. 50:42Okay? [clears throat] It's unique.
  1666. 50:43>> Okay.
  1667. 50:45Well, you would know it ain't mine then.
  1668. 50:49This is crazy. Didn't shoot at nobody.
  1669. 50:52Didn't even get to see the party. Like,
  1670. 50:54I don't know why they
  1671. 50:54>> Well, I mean, were you Okay.
  1672. 50:56>> So,
  1673. 50:57>> I'm not trying to piss you off, okay?
  1674. 51:00If you didn't shoot anybody,
  1675. 51:03then did someone in your car shoot at
  1676. 51:04someone and you were just the driver?
  1677. 51:06>> No. My little brother
  1678. 51:09My little brother didn't even touch my
  1679. 51:10gun. And if he did, he probably not
  1680. 51:13would listen to the shots.
  1681. 51:14>> But one round's missing.
  1682. 51:15>> That's it. One round?
  1683. 51:17He could have shot it. He could have
  1684. 51:19shot in the air. Anytime. I don't know
  1685. 51:21when he shot it. I would leave him in
  1686. 51:22the car by himself all the time. He
  1687. 51:24probably didn't even shoot.
  1688. 51:25>> How old is he?
  1689. 51:27>> He's young, like 14, 15.
  1690. 51:29>> So, you just leave a gun around a
  1691. 51:3014-year-old?
  1692. 51:32>> Bro, he know how to operate a gun. He
  1693. 51:34not going to grab it and pull it and
  1694. 51:36shoot in the head. If he don't know how
  1695. 51:38to operate it, then he ain't going to
  1696. 51:39touch it. He not [ __ ]
  1697. 51:42Like, this is crazy. It's not no ARP.
  1698. 51:45Not none of that.
  1699. 51:47Like, this crazy when I'm innocent.
  1700. 51:50I'm innocent. Like this is crazy. I
  1701. 51:53didn't kill nobody. Nobody I was with
  1702. 51:55killed nobody last night. Especially not
  1703. 51:57this little boy.
  1704. 51:58>> Right now someone has been shot. They're
  1705. 51:59not dead.
  1706. 52:00>> Oh, why didn't shoot nobody last night?
  1707. 52:03If he ain't get shot by no nine bullet
  1708. 52:06then ain't no way.
  1709. 52:08And I And I doubt my little my little
  1710. 52:10brother I doubt my little brother
  1711. 52:12shooting in the air is going to fall and
  1712. 52:13hit this man in the head. So I know it
  1713. 52:15wasn't my little brother and I
  1714. 52:16[clears throat] know I didn't shoot.
  1715. 52:19Now I know I'm innocent.
  1716. 52:20>> So you weren't wearing black pants last
  1717. 52:22night. What color pants were you
  1718. 52:23wearing?
  1719. 52:24>> I was wearing some blue and black jeans.
  1720. 52:27>> You were wearing a blue shirt. I know
  1721. 52:29that, okay? Cuz I've seen your Instagram
  1722. 52:31story.
  1723. 52:32>> Okay.
  1724. 52:33>> Okay.
  1725. 52:34>> A blue and white shirt.
  1726. 52:35>> But were you wearing red pants?
  1727. 52:37>> No.
  1728. 52:37>> No?
  1729. 52:38>> No.
  1730. 52:39>> Okay.
  1731. 52:39>> I wasn't wearing red.
  1732. 52:40>> Whose red pants are those that were in
  1733. 52:42your in your house? At the end of your
  1734. 52:44bed.
  1735. 52:45>> Uh probably mine, but that ain't what I
  1736. 52:48That ain't what I had on last night. I
  1737. 52:49had on them blue jeans in the dirty
  1738. 52:50clothes and that blue shirt. They're
  1739. 52:52sitting on top of dirty clothes.
  1740. 52:55>> Okay.
  1741. 52:57Someone exits your car and they're
  1742. 52:59wearing red pants.
  1743. 53:01So was it your brother?
  1744. 53:03>> My little brother didn't hop out the
  1745. 53:05car. He just opened his door.
  1746. 53:06>> No, no, I'm saying at Bethel.
  1747. 53:08>> Oh.
  1748. 53:09>> When y'all got out at Bethel, someone
  1749. 53:11was wearing red pants.
  1750. 53:13>> I don't know who was in the trunk. I
  1751. 53:14don't remember who I had in the back. I
  1752. 53:15just remember my little brother in the
  1753. 53:16front with me. I was driving I don't
  1754. 53:18remember who I had in the back.
  1755. 53:19>> So you
  1756. 53:20driving around trunk?
  1757. 53:22>> I'm driving right down the street.
  1758. 53:23George she just sent me the location six
  1759. 53:25minutes away. I'm going to go see what
  1760. 53:27he's talking about.
  1761. 53:28I didn't even get to see.
  1762. 53:30Soon as I turned Soon as I turned past
  1763. 53:33the field and turned right, I'm hearing
  1764. 53:35gunshots.
  1765. 53:37The thing ain't tell the map is telling
  1766. 53:38me to make a U-turn. I'm supposed to go
  1767. 53:40up the hill. That's where the party at
  1768. 53:41up the hill. I ain't even get to see the
  1769. 53:43house. I don't even know where the party
  1770. 53:45was.
  1771. 53:46So, I'm telling you so this is the
  1772. 53:47truth. So, I ain't telling you the
  1773. 53:49truth.
  1774. 53:55>> I don't believe it.
  1775. 53:58>> I won't believe it either.
  1776. 53:59>> I mean it's
  1777. 54:00>> I won't believe it either, especially
  1778. 54:02>> I mean if I told you this story, would
  1779. 54:03you believe it? Like
  1780. 54:06>> I don't
  1781. 54:06>> Like you would just hear it.
  1782. 54:07>> I can't think like a detective. This is
  1783. 54:09our job.
  1784. 54:09>> Well, no, no. You don't have to think
  1785. 54:10like a detective. Think like a
  1786. 54:11reasonable person. If I told you this
  1787. 54:13story and told you everything you've
  1788. 54:15told me, would you believe me?
  1789. 54:20>> I would, but you know, we two different
  1790. 54:22people.
  1791. 54:24I lied to you about how my gun
  1792. 54:26and me forgetting who was all in the
  1793. 54:28car.
  1794. 54:29It's all I lied to you.
  1795. 54:30>> And if if your gun have been fired, cuz
  1796. 54:33you said one round is missing.
  1797. 54:35>> Yes, I didn't see him shoot my gun.
  1798. 54:36>> And then when I asked you what you did
  1799. 54:38earlier in the night, you never
  1800. 54:39mentioned Bethel until I pointed out to
  1801. 54:41you.
  1802. 54:43>> Cuz I didn't sit in the Bethel for long.
  1803. 54:44Myron came got me from the Bethel.
  1804. 54:46That's it.
  1805. 54:47I didn't stay in the Bethel long.
  1806. 54:49>> And you're saying you saw a white Honda,
  1807. 54:50right?
  1808. 54:51>> I saw multiple of them.
  1809. 54:53>> But I'm saying when you got near the
  1810. 54:54party, you saw a white Honda.
  1811. 54:56>> Yeah, going up the hill.
  1812. 54:57>> Going the opposite direction, away from
  1813. 54:59you.
  1814. 55:00>> Yes, they was already up the hill. I
  1815. 55:02didn't get to see them. I didn't get to
  1816. 55:03see who driving the car. Now, I'm
  1817. 55:04watching I'm looking at their tag. They
  1818. 55:06going up. I'm turning right.
  1819. 55:08Soon as I turn right and go down
  1820. 55:10probably like half a mile, mile,
  1821. 55:12gunshots.
  1822. 55:16When nobody shooting at us, we weren't
  1823. 55:17shooting at nobody. You talking about we
  1824. 55:19shooting at each other. Car destroyed.
  1825. 55:20Wasn't no rounds fired at me.
  1826. 55:22>> Uh your car shot first. I know that.
  1827. 55:25>> And who? There was nobody to shoot at.
  1828. 55:27>> At the other white Honda.
  1829. 55:30I mean
  1830. 55:31it's it's on video.
  1831. 55:32>> So, you have us on video shooting at the
  1832. 55:34white Honda.
  1833. 55:34>> Yes.
  1834. 55:35>> You see the other white Honda.
  1835. 55:36>> Yes.
  1836. 55:37I like I
  1837. 55:39I don't even know why I'd come in here
  1838. 55:40and [ __ ] you on this, man. I'm being
  1839. 55:42completely honest with you.
  1840. 55:45That's the thing.
  1841. 55:47And all I had wanted and all I had
  1842. 55:49expected was honesty.
  1843. 55:51Okay, so that's fine.
  1844. 55:56>> I'm sorry to tell you that nobody on the
  1845. 55:58street with us, but
  1846. 56:00>> Hm?
  1847. 56:01>> We was on the road by ourself.
  1848. 56:04The road was empty.
  1849. 56:07The problem was going on on another
  1850. 56:08street.
  1851. 56:11This crazy. I don't know how it not make
  1852. 56:13sense.
  1853. 56:14That part right there I'm not lying
  1854. 56:15about. The only thing that could
  1855. 56:17probably look crazy is the time.
  1856. 56:20That's all I'll be asking. If I was a
  1857. 56:21detective
  1858. 56:22>> So, when I find your brother and I
  1859. 56:24interview him, is he going to tell me
  1860. 56:25the same story?
  1861. 56:27>> Yeah, he probably going to be scared to
  1862. 56:29tell you that he shot in the air. He
  1863. 56:31probably won't say that.
  1864. 56:32If he did shoot in the air, I don't
  1865. 56:34remember how we drove
  1866. 56:35>> I don't believe that he shot in the air.
  1867. 56:37Um, when I interview Myron, is he going
  1868. 56:38to tell me the same thing?
  1869. 56:40>> We was gambling on the game, yeah.
  1870. 56:42>> What y'all were doing that night,
  1871. 56:43hanging out, everything?
  1872. 56:45>> We weren't hanging out. He just
  1873. 56:47playing me in 2K. I left his house. I
  1874. 56:50told him to come get me from the Bethel.
  1875. 56:51We went and saw some girl.
  1876. 56:53>> First time I talked to you, you said you
  1877. 56:54were hanging out with him.
  1878. 56:56>> Yeah, I just said
  1879. 56:56>> At College Station.
  1880. 56:58>> Yeah, so we gambling on the game. I left
  1881. 57:00his house by myself.
  1882. 57:02Went to the Bethel. He came and got me.
  1883. 57:05What do you mean? I'm not going to
  1884. 57:07change my story that I told you.
  1885. 57:11This is crazy.
  1886. 57:17>> You said you got home around 1:00 or
  1887. 57:182:00 and that you would hung out with
  1888. 57:21Myron somewhere off of College Station
  1889. 57:23playing 2K and gambling.
  1890. 57:26That's what you first told me. And then
  1891. 57:28when I told you about Bethel, your story
  1892. 57:30I
  1893. 57:31>> No, it didn't.
  1894. 57:32I told you said you saw another car pull
  1895. 57:35up out there. You said you saw me put my
  1896. 57:37stuff in another car. I said, "Yeah,
  1897. 57:39Myron came and got me."
  1898. 57:42>> I didn't ever change.
  1899. 57:43>> That was after the shooting when Myron
  1900. 57:45came and got you.
  1901. 57:46>> Yeah, why you keep saying after the
  1902. 57:48shooting like we just did the shooting
  1903. 57:50like this is
  1904. 57:51>> I'm not saying that. I'm not saying
  1905. 57:53that. What I'm saying is a shooting
  1906. 57:55happened at a certain time. So, that's
  1907. 57:58how I am I'm phrasing it. It happened at
  1908. 58:02a certain time. So, what you were doing
  1909. 58:04after that time period, okay?
  1910. 58:08So, that's what I'm saying.
  1911. 58:16Is there a reason that your car has a
  1912. 58:18bullet hole in it?
  1913. 58:20>> A bullet hole in
  1914. 58:21>> Mhm.
  1915. 58:22>> I just I just looked at my car the other
  1916. 58:25night and this morning I didn't see no
  1917. 58:26bullet hole.
  1918. 58:27>> Were you looking real close?
  1919. 58:29>> I looked at my whole car and I didn't
  1920. 58:31see no bullet hole.
  1921. 58:32>> Okay.
  1922. 58:33>> Is there a bullet hole in my car?
  1923. 58:34>> Yeah, uh from what I understand.
  1924. 58:36>> Where?
  1925. 58:38>> Um I They've got to tell me, but someone
  1926. 58:40told me that they thought they saw a
  1927. 58:42bullet hole on your car.
  1928. 58:43Okay?
  1929. 58:44>> Get in my car.
  1930. 58:45>> And the the um
  1931. 58:48the other white Honda
  1932. 58:50has a couple bullet holes in it. So,
  1933. 58:52we're going to pull the projectiles to
  1934. 58:53it and we'll see if it compares to your
  1935. 58:55gun.
  1936. 58:57>> Okay.
  1937. 58:59My gun
  1938. 59:01only missing one round.
  1939. 59:04>> Well, was there someone else in your car
  1940. 59:05shooting another gun that would have
  1941. 59:07>> That was only gun in my car was mine.
  1942. 59:10That's what I'm telling you.
  1943. 59:10>> Did your brother happen to have a gun of
  1944. 59:12his own?
  1945. 59:12>> No, that's why I said he had my gun.
  1946. 59:14[snorts]
  1947. 59:14>> Was there a third person in the car?
  1948. 59:17Cuz I see three people get out at
  1949. 59:19Bethel.
  1950. 59:19>> I said I don't I don't remember who was
  1951. 59:21behind me.
  1952. 59:24I would try. Everybody out there wanted
  1953. 59:27to run. I don't know who done y'all did
  1954. 59:29proud of.
  1955. 59:30>> Do you know a person by the name of
  1956. 59:31Jayden Appling?
  1957. 59:34>> Ain't that
  1958. 59:35You talking about Jay? Yeah.
  1959. 59:37>> Yeah.
  1960. 59:38>> Yeah.
  1961. 59:39>> Yeah. He lives just a couple doors down
  1962. 59:41from you, right?
  1963. 59:42>> Yeah, you talking about Jay.
  1964. 59:43>> Y'all close?
  1965. 59:44>> We ain't close, but we cool. We smoking
  1966. 59:47and stuff.
  1967. 59:47>> Yeah. Where y'all hanging out last
  1968. 59:49night?
  1969. 59:50>> No. I think I saw him last night in the
  1970. 59:53in the in the back of the bed.
  1971. 59:55>> But he didn't ride around with you?
  1972. 59:57>> No, he won't eat.
  1973. 59:58We were talking in the hood, smoking in
  1974. 1:00:00the back of smoking.
  1975. 1:00:02He didn't even call you.
  1976. 1:00:11I don't know why I rolled up there. Just
  1977. 1:00:13for me riding up there got me in all
  1978. 1:00:15this this is crazy.
  1979. 1:00:17Huh?
  1980. 1:01:06She looking at my car sitting around and
  1981. 1:01:07[ __ ]
  1982. 1:01:08I got picked up.
  1983. 1:01:11This is crazy.
  1984. 1:01:19Damn, I didn't even get to see the car.
  1985. 1:01:25>> Is there anything else you want to tell
  1986. 1:01:26me?
  1987. 1:01:27>> [clears throat]
  1988. 1:01:29>> No, sir.
  1989. 1:01:30>> Okay.
  1990. 1:01:38>> So, am I being charged anything? Am I
  1991. 1:01:40being charged like that?
  1992. 1:01:42>> Well, no. I
  1993. 1:01:43I don't think you're going to be charged
  1994. 1:01:44for the gun or anything.
  1995. 1:01:46>> Man, it's clean. My stepsister bought
  1996. 1:01:48it, though.
  1997. 1:01:49>> Your stepsister bought it for you?
  1998. 1:01:50>> Yeah, say her name. It's not reported.
  1999. 1:01:52It's not stolen or anything.
  2000. 1:01:54>> Okay.
  2001. 1:01:55>> [snorts]
  2002. 1:01:56>> Um
  2003. 1:01:58Well, yeah, if it comes back clean and
  2004. 1:01:59everything and it doesn't it's not
  2005. 1:02:01involved at all,
  2006. 1:02:02um
  2007. 1:02:04after, you know, all this, we'll be able
  2008. 1:02:06to get it back to you. Okay?
  2009. 1:02:09Uh it's just got to be test-fired and
  2010. 1:02:11it's got to have uh
  2011. 1:02:13um basically, it's got to be run to see
  2012. 1:02:15who purchased it. Okay?
  2013. 1:02:19But,
  2014. 1:02:20>> [sighs]
  2015. 1:02:21>> um
  2016. 1:02:23let me step out and see see what else we
  2017. 1:02:26need to do, okay?
  2018. 1:02:28I appreciate you talking with me.
  2019. 1:02:30>> I know.
  2020. 1:02:30>> Okay.
  2021. 1:02:42>> They crazy.
  2022. 1:02:49See what she want back. What?
  2023. 1:02:56Swear we was on the car that street.
  2024. 1:03:00I should have asked for it, but I don't
  2025. 1:03:02need no bullet holes in my car.
  2026. 1:03:15J-two pop on me while I was working in
  2027. 1:03:17the mall. See what he do.
  2028. 1:03:19My boy was helmet
  2029. 1:03:21broke my ass up.
  2030. 1:03:23That didn't make no sense.
  2031. 1:03:55>> Good evening.
  2032. 1:03:56>> Mhm.
  2033. 1:03:58>> Say something, right? [snorts]
  2034. 1:03:59>> Mhm.
  2035. 1:04:00>> Do you remember me?
  2036. 1:04:01>> Uh
  2037. 1:04:02yeah.
  2038. 1:04:03>> Uh
  2039. 1:04:04I'm Sergeant Black.
  2040. 1:04:06>> [snorts]
  2041. 1:04:06>> Excuse me, I'm pretty pretty tired at
  2042. 1:04:08this point. Thinking about like like 36
  2043. 1:04:10or 37 hours.
  2044. 1:04:12Um so here's the deal.
  2045. 1:04:14You are on camera. I don't know if you
  2046. 1:04:16knew that or not. It's their Airbnb, so
  2047. 1:04:17they have cameras all over the place.
  2048. 1:04:19Um
  2049. 1:04:21need you to be honest.
  2050. 1:04:22At this point I'll
  2051. 1:04:24I'll be honest with you. That's really
  2052. 1:04:25the only thing you got left is at least
  2053. 1:04:28being honest about what happened.
  2054. 1:04:30If dude shot at you guys and you guys
  2055. 1:04:33shot back, I get it. That's fine. But
  2056. 1:04:36there's only one time where you get to
  2057. 1:04:37tell your version of events and that's
  2058. 1:04:39here and now.
  2059. 1:04:40After today,
  2060. 1:04:42you really you don't get the option
  2061. 1:04:43because at that point it's going to come
  2062. 1:04:45off as you're just making [ __ ] up to try
  2063. 1:04:47to cover your ass.
  2064. 1:04:48So here's the reality.
  2065. 1:04:50I know you're shooting.
  2066. 1:04:52Okay? The handgun that you tossed in the
  2067. 1:04:54garbage, which was being recorded by a
  2068. 1:04:56drone. I don't know if you if you're
  2069. 1:04:58made aware of that. So we've been
  2070. 1:05:01watching your house all morning.
  2071. 1:05:03Um
  2072. 1:05:05your car is pretty unique thanks to the
  2073. 1:05:08little fuzzy dice or whatever those
  2074. 1:05:10things are. Stands out.
  2075. 1:05:12Um
  2076. 1:05:13not every car's got that.
  2077. 1:05:15So, um those are the facts.
  2078. 1:05:18You're on camera.
  2079. 1:05:20There's several shell casings there.
  2080. 1:05:22There are shell casings that I think
  2081. 1:05:24once we test them, we're going to come
  2082. 1:05:25back to that gun that you threw in the
  2083. 1:05:27garbage. And I think you know that, too.
  2084. 1:05:29Um
  2085. 1:05:31I don't know that your bullet is the one
  2086. 1:05:34that necessarily I'm going to say killed
  2087. 1:05:36that guy. I don't know if he's alive or
  2088. 1:05:38not yet, but I know the wound is not
  2089. 1:05:39survivable.
  2090. 1:05:41So, ultimately he will die if he's not
  2091. 1:05:44dead already.
  2092. 1:05:45So, we're looking at you know, murder
  2093. 1:05:47charge. And so, at this point it's all
  2094. 1:05:50about, you know, how do you mitigate
  2095. 1:05:51that, right? You know, how how do I tell
  2096. 1:05:53my story about what happened?
  2097. 1:05:57To kind of justify what the hell
  2098. 1:05:59happened, cuz I'm sure you didn't go
  2099. 1:06:00over there with the intent to like,
  2100. 1:06:01"Hey, I'm going to go murder somebody,"
  2101. 1:06:03right?
  2102. 1:06:04Um
  2103. 1:06:05So,
  2104. 1:06:06but I mean I'm going to tell you
  2105. 1:06:09coming in here and and telling the story
  2106. 1:06:11of
  2107. 1:06:12um yeah, I was over there, there was
  2108. 1:06:15some shooting, but it wasn't me.
  2109. 1:06:17Um
  2110. 1:06:19and trying to distance yourself from it,
  2111. 1:06:20which is let's be honest, what you're
  2112. 1:06:22trying to do, right? Trying to distance
  2113. 1:06:23yourself.
  2114. 1:06:24>> Yeah, because this zoom had no one
  2115. 1:06:26holding out the street. That all
  2116. 1:06:27>> Well, there's two streets, right?
  2117. 1:06:28There's shooting here and there's
  2118. 1:06:29shooting here. There's there's
  2119. 1:06:31a particular part of the shooting that
  2120. 1:06:33occurs in your car.
  2121. 1:06:35There's one guy with an AK, basically
  2122. 1:06:38Draco or whatever, and another guy who's
  2123. 1:06:40got a little
  2124. 1:06:41uh AR that looks like it's just got the
  2125. 1:06:44uh
  2126. 1:06:45the uh buffer tube sticking out the
  2127. 1:06:47back. And he's like sitting on your
  2128. 1:06:49window, leaning out, shooting.
  2129. 1:06:51All right, that's
  2130. 1:06:53that's what it looked like at least.
  2131. 1:06:54Either that or else he got out and he's
  2132. 1:06:55tall and and you can see, but it looked
  2133. 1:06:57like he was sitting under shooting.
  2134. 1:06:59Um and then there's your car door that
  2135. 1:07:01comes open.
  2136. 1:07:03And presumably that's you that gets out
  2137. 1:07:06who's got the pistol. And there's
  2138. 1:07:08shell casings all over the place that
  2139. 1:07:10are going to be able to be tested to
  2140. 1:07:12say, "Hey, this shell casing came from
  2141. 1:07:14this gun."
  2142. 1:07:15All right?
  2143. 1:07:15>> Mhm.
  2144. 1:07:16>> What are you going to say when the shell
  2145. 1:07:18casings at the scene match to the gun
  2146. 1:07:21you threw in the garbage?
  2147. 1:07:23>> They not because my gun only missing one
  2148. 1:07:26round. My gun only went off one time.
  2149. 1:07:29>> Did it go off at the scene?
  2150. 1:07:32>> Uh yeah.
  2151. 1:07:33>> Okay, so you just admitted
  2152. 1:07:35>> But not at no other
  2153. 1:07:36>> discharged a gun at that scene.
  2154. 1:07:39>> But not at nobody.
  2155. 1:07:40>> Okay.
  2156. 1:07:40>> With nobody on the street.
  2157. 1:07:42>> tell me then who discharged the rifle
  2158. 1:07:44rounds
  2159. 1:07:46from your car.
  2160. 1:07:47>> I I can't say.
  2161. 1:07:48>> And don't And don't tell me you don't
  2162. 1:07:49know who was in your car. That doesn't
  2163. 1:07:51work. We're not in third year olds.
  2164. 1:07:54We're not in fifth grade.
  2165. 1:07:56That's not reasonable.
  2166. 1:07:59I'm not stupid and you're not stupid.
  2167. 1:08:01>> Mhm.
  2168. 1:08:01>> Okay? It's not reasonable to say
  2169. 1:08:04that I was in this car with these guys.
  2170. 1:08:06We lit up this over over get this group
  2171. 1:08:10and we killed this one guy and then we
  2172. 1:08:12all left the scene together and we went
  2173. 1:08:14back to Bethel and everything else.
  2174. 1:08:17Um
  2175. 1:08:18it's not reasonable to say you don't
  2176. 1:08:20know who that was.
  2177. 1:08:21>> I was drunk. I just told I just I was
  2178. 1:08:23one in the party before we left.
  2179. 1:08:24>> Okay, I don't care how drunk you were.
  2180. 1:08:27If you remember that you shot and you
  2181. 1:08:28remember the shooting, you know who's in
  2182. 1:08:30your car.
  2183. 1:08:32That's a [ __ ] statement. You and I
  2184. 1:08:34both know that.
  2185. 1:08:37Now, I know this sucks.
  2186. 1:08:39There There's no ifs, ands, or buts
  2187. 1:08:41about it. This sucks.
  2188. 1:08:44And I know this is hard
  2189. 1:08:46because you didn't expect any of this,
  2190. 1:08:48I'm sure.
  2191. 1:08:49I'm just going to tell you.
  2192. 1:08:53You have kids?
  2193. 1:08:55You ever babysit them?
  2194. 1:08:56>> Mhm.
  2195. 1:08:57>> All right? So, you've watched young
  2196. 1:08:58kids, right?
  2197. 1:09:00Okay? You ever catch them doing
  2198. 1:09:01something wrong?
  2199. 1:09:02>> Mhm.
  2200. 1:09:03>> Okay.
  2201. 1:09:04When you ask them about it, cuz you
  2202. 1:09:05confront them, right? You go, "Hey, why
  2203. 1:09:07are you doing that?"
  2204. 1:09:08When you confront them
  2205. 1:09:10and they look at you and they say, "I
  2206. 1:09:12didn't do that."
  2207. 1:09:14Do you handle that differently versus
  2208. 1:09:17when they look at you and say, "I'm
  2209. 1:09:18sorry, I did it."
  2210. 1:09:21>> Yeah.
  2211. 1:09:22>> Yeah. Well, that philosophy is part of
  2212. 1:09:25human nature.
  2213. 1:09:27And that philosophy uh exists in all
  2214. 1:09:30things.
  2215. 1:09:32You are at this point the child who's
  2216. 1:09:34got caught.
  2217. 1:09:36Not to say your child, but for um
  2218. 1:09:38the description or the example, you are
  2219. 1:09:41basically the child who's gotten caught.
  2220. 1:09:43And we are sitting here in a room asking
  2221. 1:09:45you to kind of explain what happened and
  2222. 1:09:47you are sitting here saying, "I didn't
  2223. 1:09:50do nothing."
  2224. 1:09:52And you and I both know that it's
  2225. 1:09:54untrue.
  2226. 1:09:56And unfortunately,
  2227. 1:09:57that will absolutely cause you problems.
  2228. 1:10:00Cuz that's just the reality of life.
  2229. 1:10:04Um
  2230. 1:10:06I'm just going to tell you, it is, like
  2231. 1:10:08I said, it's on video. I'm sure the
  2232. 1:10:10other detectives told you that already,
  2233. 1:10:12right? It's on video.
  2234. 1:10:14That's
  2235. 1:10:16unequivocal fact.
  2236. 1:10:18Okay? So, it's not a question of did you
  2237. 1:10:22shoot, how many times did you shoot,
  2238. 1:10:23things like that, right? It's not a
  2239. 1:10:25question of were you driving a car, were
  2240. 1:10:27you there,
  2241. 1:10:28did you go there and immediately become
  2242. 1:10:30engaged in a gunfight. Um
  2243. 1:10:33it's a question as to why. And it's a
  2244. 1:10:35question as to who all was there as
  2245. 1:10:37well, so that they can offer some
  2246. 1:10:39justification as well. Um because
  2247. 1:10:42someone lost their life. Or at least is
  2248. 1:10:44going to.
  2249. 1:10:47>> Mhm.
  2250. 1:10:48>> So, I mean, it's serious.
  2251. 1:10:51So, I'm going to ask you again cuz I'm
  2252. 1:10:52going to tell you I do not believe you
  2253. 1:10:54when you tell me when don't know who was
  2254. 1:10:55in the car. I think that's a lie. That's
  2255. 1:10:57not reasonable. And I'm going to tell
  2256. 1:10:59you, if it doesn't make sense, it's
  2257. 1:11:01because it didn't happen.
  2258. 1:11:03Fact of life.
  2259. 1:11:05Who were the other two people in the car
  2260. 1:11:07with you, or more?
  2261. 1:11:10>> I just remember my little brother being
  2262. 1:11:12in the front. He didn't have no gun. I
  2263. 1:11:13don't know
  2264. 1:11:15who y'all was seeing out of getting out
  2265. 1:11:16of my car rifles. I remember I would
  2266. 1:11:18have remembered folks shooting rifles.
  2267. 1:11:20>> Well, who'd you go over there with?
  2268. 1:11:22>> It was just me and I just remember me
  2269. 1:11:23and my little brother. I was drunk.
  2270. 1:11:24Everybody in the best of one of the
  2271. 1:11:26country park. So, folks just piling up
  2272. 1:11:28in my backseat. As [clears throat] soon
  2273. 1:11:30as we passed the little practice Georgia
  2274. 1:11:32field and turned right,
  2275. 1:11:34I see the white Honda going up the hill.
  2276. 1:11:36Now, you hear the shots.
  2277. 1:11:38Shots. You hear a whole bunch of shots.
  2278. 1:11:42And this And I drove back on Milledge.
  2279. 1:11:45Didn't nobody shooting no rifle out of
  2280. 1:11:46my car.
  2281. 1:11:47>> Yes, they did.
  2282. 1:11:49>> It was plenty white Hondas out there. I
  2283. 1:11:51don't know why y'all was
  2284. 1:11:52>> Let me show you a picture. Hold on. I'll
  2285. 1:11:53show you a picture.
  2286. 1:11:54I got my screenshot. You can actually
  2287. 1:11:56see the buffer tube and everything
  2288. 1:11:59right there. You want to see it?
  2289. 1:12:01>> Mhm.
  2290. 1:12:05>> If I show it to you, you're going to
  2291. 1:12:05tell me the truth?
  2292. 1:12:06>> Yeah.
  2293. 1:12:08>> The actual truth, like who was in the
  2294. 1:12:09car.
  2295. 1:12:10>> I've been telling you the truth.
  2296. 1:12:12>> No, you're telling me the version that
  2297. 1:12:15you think is just enough
  2298. 1:12:17to maybe help you out. I'm going to tell
  2299. 1:12:20you, unfortunately,
  2300. 1:12:22the only thing that helps you out at
  2301. 1:12:23this point. And And this is just
  2302. 1:12:25reality. Only thing that helps you
  2303. 1:12:28at this point
  2304. 1:12:29is complete and utter hon- honesty.
  2305. 1:12:32That's the only thing.
  2306. 1:12:33You are the person caught doing
  2307. 1:12:35something wrong. The question now is
  2308. 1:12:37whether or not you're going to
  2309. 1:12:39take responsibility
  2310. 1:12:41and say, "I [ __ ] up."
  2311. 1:12:44I did. And this is the people that were
  2312. 1:12:46with me. And this is what happened. And
  2313. 1:12:50I'm sorry.
  2314. 1:12:52That's it. That's That's what you've got
  2315. 1:12:54left to try to mitigate some factors
  2316. 1:12:56here because here's the reality.
  2317. 1:12:58You're going to get charged.
  2318. 1:13:00There's no way around that.
  2319. 1:13:03You were in the car. You admitted that
  2320. 1:13:05you fired a round. That round's going to
  2321. 1:13:07come back to that gun that got dumped.
  2322. 1:13:09Someone has lost their life.
  2323. 1:13:11>> Right.
  2324. 1:13:11>> I can show that you were involved in
  2325. 1:13:13gunfire. I can show that you stopped
  2326. 1:13:15your car. You opened your door. You got
  2327. 1:13:18out. You fired a round.
  2328. 1:13:23According to the crown crown, doesn't
  2329. 1:13:25matter who shot him in the back.
  2330. 1:13:38This is rudimentary enhancement. Once we
  2331. 1:13:40really send it off to the FBI, it's
  2332. 1:13:42going to look great. Do you see that?
  2333. 1:13:44>> What?
  2334. 1:13:45>> Do you see the AR-15 right there?
  2335. 1:13:46>> Yeah.
  2336. 1:13:47>> Buffer tube?
  2337. 1:13:48>> Yeah.
  2338. 1:13:48>> Guy standing there? Now, if you're
  2339. 1:13:50saying your brother was was the one in
  2340. 1:13:52the front, uh that guy's from the front
  2341. 1:13:54passenger seat there.
  2342. 1:13:56So, your brother He's the shooter?
  2343. 1:13:58>> That's not my car.
  2344. 1:13:59>> That is your car.
  2345. 1:14:01>> I ain't even out on it. Where my dice
  2346. 1:14:03at?
  2347. 1:14:04>> Your dice are picked up on other videos
  2348. 1:14:07where you're driving all over town.
  2349. 1:14:09>> You can't even see my face in this
  2350. 1:14:11picture. This not my car.
  2351. 1:14:13>> Dude, this is not the only picture. This
  2352. 1:14:15is a still shot zoomed in from video.
  2353. 1:14:20How do you think we found you?
  2354. 1:14:23Do you think we just randomly decided,
  2355. 1:14:25"Hey, that guy's got a white Honda.
  2356. 1:14:28Let's go over there."
  2357. 1:14:29>> So, you mean because I soon as I turned
  2358. 1:14:32over
  2359. 1:14:32>> Why are you looking over here? I'm not
  2360. 1:14:33having a conversation over here. We're
  2361. 1:14:34having a conversation.
  2362. 1:14:36Okay, when you look over here, what
  2363. 1:14:37you're doing is trying to convince
  2364. 1:14:39yourself since we're in
  2365. 1:14:40>> Hey, you did that last time you
  2366. 1:14:41interrogated me, man. I just eye contact
  2367. 1:14:44don't mean nothing.
  2368. 1:14:44>> Eye Eye means a lot.
  2369. 1:14:46>> No, wait. No, that's that old police
  2370. 1:14:48trick stuff. My baby mama told me
  2371. 1:14:50>> Well, if you haven't noticed, I'm old as
  2372. 1:14:52[ __ ]
  2373. 1:14:52>> I know. So, you think eye contact mean
  2374. 1:14:55I don't have to really say anything how
  2375. 1:14:56I am. I don't look my mom in the face
  2376. 1:14:58when we talk. You know what I mean
  2377. 1:14:59everything I say? That's not even my
  2378. 1:15:01car. That's probably the other white car
  2379. 1:15:03on the right what? Y'all so
  2380. 1:15:06>> This is absolutely your car.
  2381. 1:15:09And I'm going to tell you
  2382. 1:15:11your shell casings are right over here
  2383. 1:15:14with that car.
  2384. 1:15:16>> You saying my shell case my gun is only
  2385. 1:15:18missing one round.
  2386. 1:15:19>> Doesn't matter.
  2387. 1:15:21Doesn't matter if you fired 50 rounds,
  2388. 1:15:23if you fired two rounds, three rounds,
  2389. 1:15:26one round, you
  2390. 1:15:29fired.
  2391. 1:15:31That gives me the ability to link your
  2392. 1:15:34gun
  2393. 1:15:35to that area. I bet when I run your
  2394. 1:15:37phone records, I'll be able to plot your
  2395. 1:15:39course
  2396. 1:15:40all through town. Match right on up.
  2397. 1:15:44>> I just said I never even ride past it,
  2398. 1:15:46but the shooting happened on the whole
  2399. 1:15:48another street.
  2400. 1:15:49>> Dude, you're looking at a picture of
  2401. 1:15:50someone firing an AR-15 out of your car
  2402. 1:15:52and you're still lying to me. You are
  2403. 1:15:54quintessentially the kid look at me in
  2404. 1:15:56the face after he's got caught doing
  2405. 1:15:58something wrong saying, "Didn't do it.
  2406. 1:16:00Wasn't me."
  2407. 1:16:02It's a lie.
  2408. 1:16:03>> It was plenty white Hondas just like
  2409. 1:16:05mine out there. You don't even see my
  2410. 1:16:06dice in the picture.
  2411. 1:16:08>> So, you're going to hold on to one clip
  2412. 1:16:10where you can't see your dice in that
  2413. 1:16:12particular clip, right? And that's what
  2414. 1:16:15you're going to hold on to?
  2415. 1:16:16>> I'm not holding on to nothing. Y'all
  2416. 1:16:18just trying to be so fictitious to me.
  2417. 1:16:20It wasn't me. It wasn't nobody I was in
  2418. 1:16:22the car with.
  2419. 1:16:24>> Okay, who were you in car with? If
  2420. 1:16:25they're all innocent, who were who was
  2421. 1:16:27there?
  2422. 1:16:28>> I just remember my little brother. I'm
  2423. 1:16:30still hung over right now. I don't even
  2424. 1:16:32know what I'm saying.
  2425. 1:16:32>> I just told him I I call him son.
  2426. 1:16:34>> What is your little brother's actual
  2427. 1:16:36name? If he's your little brother
  2428. 1:16:37>> He's not my blood brother.
  2429. 1:16:38>> Well, you he's close enough that you
  2430. 1:16:40refer to him as your little brother.
  2431. 1:16:42>> You know we known each other for months.
  2432. 1:16:43I call him son. That's what everybody in
  2433. 1:16:45the building call him son.
  2434. 1:16:46>> What's his real name?
  2435. 1:16:48>> I don't know, sir. He's like he's crazy.
  2436. 1:16:50>> That's not true. What's his Instagram
  2437. 1:16:52name?
  2438. 1:16:53>> I don't
  2439. 1:16:54I
  2440. 1:16:55don't know what his I think I I don't
  2441. 1:16:57know this man's Instagram.
  2442. 1:16:58>> What's your Instagram?
  2443. 1:17:00>> I don't know what you mean.
  2444. 1:17:02>> Okay. You in a gang?
  2445. 1:17:04>> No.
  2446. 1:17:06Ain't the first detective talking about
  2447. 1:17:08some EBK and all that. Somebody tell me
  2448. 1:17:10when they put something on Draco.
  2449. 1:17:11>> Are you EBK?
  2450. 1:17:12>> No, I'm not nothing.
  2451. 1:17:14>> You EBK?
  2452. 1:17:15>> I'm not no EBK. I'm from uptown.
  2453. 1:17:20It's crazy.
  2454. 1:17:22They probably trying to pin a murder on
  2455. 1:17:23me.
  2456. 1:17:24You know how many cars like that is out
  2457. 1:17:26there?
  2458. 1:17:28It's crazy. I'm I'm telling y'all seen
  2459. 1:17:30me with it pulling off after the shots.
  2460. 1:17:33>> I'm I'm over here. We're not having
  2461. 1:17:34There's no one sitting here.
  2462. 1:17:36>> I look everywhere when I talk, but it's
  2463. 1:17:38only me and you in the room. Who you
  2464. 1:17:39talking to?
  2465. 1:17:39>> It's only you and you in the room.
  2466. 1:17:41>> I don't got to look at you when I talk
  2467. 1:17:43to you, sir.
  2468. 1:17:44What's up with you?
  2469. 1:17:45>> Because I want you to actually have a
  2470. 1:17:46conversation.
  2471. 1:17:47>> That's what you told my mama last time
  2472. 1:17:48you investigated.
  2473. 1:17:49>> This is a serious
  2474. 1:17:52>> I know it's serious.
  2475. 1:17:52>> This this is quite honestly the most
  2476. 1:17:54serious conversation you have ever had
  2477. 1:17:56in your life.
  2478. 1:17:56>> Yeah.
  2479. 1:17:58>> And it probably will be the most serious
  2480. 1:18:00conversation you have ever had in your
  2481. 1:18:01life.
  2482. 1:18:02>> You right.
  2483. 1:18:02>> Because what happens in here could
  2484. 1:18:04dictate it.
  2485. 1:18:05>> You right.
  2486. 1:18:06>> And right now you are not sitting in a
  2487. 1:18:08good seat.
  2488. 1:18:10Right now you appear
  2489. 1:18:12to be
  2490. 1:18:14Well, I'm just going to tell you I have
  2491. 1:18:15probable cause
  2492. 1:18:17all day long to say
  2493. 1:18:19you can be charged with the death of
  2494. 1:18:21this person. I don't like get I said I
  2495. 1:18:22don't know if they died yet.
  2496. 1:18:24But my understanding is it's not a
  2497. 1:18:26survivable wound.
  2498. 1:18:29So you have got to understand the
  2499. 1:18:31gravity
  2500. 1:18:32of honesty here. Because we are
  2501. 1:18:35absolutely going to be able to make a
  2502. 1:18:36case.
  2503. 1:18:38That's not a question.
  2504. 1:18:40We're already here. We already showed up
  2505. 1:18:42at your house with the SWAT team.
  2506. 1:18:44All that's done. You literally got
  2507. 1:18:46caught on camera
  2508. 1:18:48throwing the gun away. And when that gun
  2509. 1:18:50comes back linked to that scene,
  2510. 1:18:54dude, what are you going to do?
  2511. 1:18:57I need you to think about it because
  2512. 1:18:59I'm serious. I know you think I'm just
  2513. 1:19:01trying to to have you up. I'm really
  2514. 1:19:03not. I I'm
  2515. 1:19:04This is really an opportunity and people
  2516. 1:19:07don't see it as that.
  2517. 1:19:09Listen, I can tell you people understand
  2518. 1:19:11when people [ __ ] up. They understand
  2519. 1:19:13when people make mistakes. They get
  2520. 1:19:15that.
  2521. 1:19:16You're human.
  2522. 1:19:18Everyone's human.
  2523. 1:19:20Everyone
  2524. 1:19:21screws up. Sometimes there are bigger
  2525. 1:19:24screw-ups than others. It's just the
  2526. 1:19:25reality of life. And it doesn't mean
  2527. 1:19:28that you you won't necessarily be held
  2528. 1:19:30accountable because you There's got to
  2529. 1:19:31be consequences, right? We can't just
  2530. 1:19:33have people running around shooting
  2531. 1:19:34everybody. But
  2532. 1:19:36you have to learn to take
  2533. 1:19:38responsibility. And that is what the
  2534. 1:19:39whole
  2535. 1:19:41legal system's kind of about. It's
  2536. 1:19:43responsibility.
  2537. 1:19:45You know, it's it's
  2538. 1:19:47consequences of actions.
  2539. 1:19:50But
  2540. 1:19:52you know, the thing is this is your
  2541. 1:19:53ability to get that story out there from
  2542. 1:19:56your perspective about what happened. No
  2543. 1:19:59one is going to believe you when you say
  2544. 1:20:02I remember this, this, and this. But I
  2545. 1:20:04suddenly don't remember this because I
  2546. 1:20:05was too drunk. If you're too drunk to
  2547. 1:20:07remember anything, you don't remember
  2548. 1:20:09anything at all. You don't remember
  2549. 1:20:11remember
  2550. 1:20:12A through B. You don't just pick bits
  2551. 1:20:15and pieces.
  2552. 1:20:16Bits and pieces
  2553. 1:20:18pieces of convenience. So, I need you to
  2554. 1:20:20think about that because it's a big
  2555. 1:20:22issue.
  2556. 1:20:23And you know that I'm right. I know it's
  2557. 1:20:25scary to say it.
  2558. 1:20:27I know that it's scary to move forward
  2559. 1:20:29and be like that. Hey, this is who's in
  2560. 1:20:31here. This is what happened." It's a big
  2561. 1:20:32step. I get that. And it's scary.
  2562. 1:20:36And it's serious. But I need you to
  2563. 1:20:38think about what happens if you don't.
  2564. 1:20:41Okay? Let's just think about it.
  2565. 1:20:44It's You know what? Honestly, it doesn't
  2566. 1:20:46affect me.
  2567. 1:20:48We got a case on you already.
  2568. 1:20:50It affects you.
  2569. 1:20:52That's just real.
  2570. 1:20:52>> So, how long I got to stay?
  2571. 1:20:55>> I don't I can't tell you time. I
  2572. 1:20:57I don't dictate time.
  2573. 1:21:01>> This is weird.
  2574. 1:21:05>> Hey.
  2575. 1:21:08I want to ask just
  2576. 1:21:10I'll ask a couple things, okay?
  2577. 1:21:19Um
  2578. 1:21:20I wanted to ask, so we talked about
  2579. 1:21:23gunshot residue earlier, right? Okay.
  2580. 1:21:27Would you be willing to
  2581. 1:21:29let me rub this on your hands?
  2582. 1:21:31To see if to test if there's any gunshot
  2583. 1:21:34residue on your hands.
  2584. 1:21:36>> All right, so it should be like I shot
  2585. 1:21:39my 9 one time.
  2586. 1:21:40>> Okay. And that's fine.
  2587. 1:21:42Shot it one time. Would you be willing
  2588. 1:21:44to let me
  2589. 1:21:45do this?
  2590. 1:21:46>> It don't mean it's going to be on me
  2591. 1:21:47anyway, ain't it?
  2592. 1:21:49>> I'm That's why I'm asking you.
  2593. 1:21:51>> I'm straight then.
  2594. 1:21:54[ __ ] you weird, wait.
  2595. 1:21:56>> Hm?
  2596. 1:21:58>> So, I'm straight then. This is this
  2597. 1:22:00weird, bro.
  2598. 1:22:01>> Okay.
  2599. 1:22:02>> Is it weird?
  2600. 1:22:02>> Um also wanted to ask, would you be
  2601. 1:22:04willing to give a DNA sample? I just
  2602. 1:22:06swab the inside of your cheek.
  2603. 1:22:11No?
  2604. 1:22:14Okay.
  2605. 1:22:15>> I'm creased.
  2606. 1:22:16>> Huh?
  2607. 1:22:17>> So, this stuff here creased.
  2608. 1:22:19>> Okay.
  2609. 1:22:20Um
  2610. 1:22:22and then, what's the passcode to your
  2611. 1:22:24phone?
  2612. 1:22:31>> Back up all my phone.
  2613. 1:22:32>> Mhm.
  2614. 1:22:34>> I don't know what was on it. I've got
  2615. 1:22:35personal stuff on my phone.
  2616. 1:22:37>> You do?
  2617. 1:22:38>> Yeah.
  2618. 1:22:40>> Well, we're going to do a search warrant
  2619. 1:22:42and go in it.
  2620. 1:22:45>> All right.
  2621. 1:22:47>> So, I just wanted to ask what the
  2622. 1:22:48passcode was.
  2623. 1:22:50>> I can give it.
  2624. 1:22:58Okay.
  2625. 1:22:59>> Okay.
  2626. 1:23:02>> I'm not going to say.
  2627. 1:23:04>> What?
  2628. 1:23:11>> Okay.
  2629. 1:23:13>> If you feel like telling the truth, just
  2630. 1:23:14let me know, okay? I'll come back in.
  2631. 1:23:18>> So, what's going on? Getting seated?
  2632. 1:23:20>> For right now, yeah.
  2633. 1:23:22>> I said wait. What am I waiting on?
  2634. 1:23:25>> Right now, I've got some paperwork to
  2635. 1:23:27do, okay?
  2636. 1:23:29I'm not going to I'm not going to keep
  2637. 1:23:30you here.
  2638. 1:23:32But, so I got some paperwork that I got
  2639. 1:23:34to do. I'll come back in in a minute.
  2640. 1:23:36>> So, where am I going?
  2641. 1:23:37>> Huh?
  2642. 1:23:37>> Where am I going?
  2643. 1:23:39>> I got to talk with them about that. This
  2644. 1:23:40isn't my case. It's Paul Johnson's case.
  2645. 1:23:44>> All right.
  2646. 1:23:45>> Okay. I'll talk with Detective Johnson
  2647. 1:23:47and see.
  2648. 1:23:55Okay.
  2649. 1:23:56So,
  2650. 1:23:59thing with the gunshot residue stuff is
  2651. 1:24:01it is not a voluntary thing. It's cuz
  2652. 1:24:03it's perishable. We got to go ahead and
  2653. 1:24:04do it. It's uh just sticky magnets. So,
  2654. 1:24:06it's painless process, but yeah, it's
  2655. 1:24:09not really like a yes or no kind of
  2656. 1:24:11thing. We We're going to go ahead
  2657. 1:24:13do a gunshot residue test on you.
  2658. 1:24:14>> Technically, the evidence can be lost.
  2659. 1:24:17>> Okay.
  2660. 1:24:18>> So, how do you do? Can we ask you
  2661. 1:24:20anything?
  2662. 1:24:21>> Honestly,
  2663. 1:24:23cuz we've been awake for 30 plus hours.
  2664. 1:24:25>> Yeah.
  2665. 1:24:28So, that's my fault.
  2666. 1:24:36>> So, I'm supposed to lick your toes?
  2667. 1:24:38>> Yeah, I ain't got no choice.
  2668. 1:24:39All I'm going to do is rub this on your
  2669. 1:24:41hands.
  2670. 1:24:42>> All right.
  2671. 1:24:42>> Okay?
  2672. 1:24:43>> So, does it make you sick?
  2673. 1:24:44>> Yeah.
  2674. 1:24:49>> I'm thinking about it right now.
  2675. 1:24:52I'm going to vomit.
  2676. 1:24:53I'm turning with him.
  2677. 1:24:55>> You're
  2678. 1:24:55more than welcome to.
  2679. 1:24:56>> I'm going to respond now.
  2680. 1:24:59I'm ready.
  2681. 1:25:04Somebody get a girl like this.
  2682. 1:25:07>> Hm?
  2683. 1:25:08>> Mhm.
  2684. 1:25:19>> This is going to suck for 10 seconds,
  2685. 1:25:20so.
  2686. 1:25:33Okay. This is your right hand.
  2687. 1:25:55And now your left hand.
  2688. 1:26:03Are you left-handed or right-handed?
  2689. 1:26:08>> Right.
  2690. 1:26:09>> Okay.
  2691. 1:26:17>> Put my right hand and messed up the
  2692. 1:26:19frame.
  2693. 1:26:20>> You get in a fight?
  2694. 1:26:22>> I hit the window.
  2695. 1:26:26You know, you left and did everything.
  2696. 1:26:29>> Yeah, what happened to your door when
  2697. 1:26:31you got here?
  2698. 1:26:32>> Uh a girl slammed
  2699. 1:26:36I feel like the hinge.
  2700. 1:26:38>> How long ago was that?
  2701. 1:26:41>> Since
  2702. 1:26:41I was in high school.
  2703. 1:26:43>> So, it's always been off the hinge?
  2704. 1:26:45>> Just like that.
  2705. 1:26:46>> Since then?
  2706. 1:26:48>> I just be out in the field.
  2707. 1:26:50>> Cuz it looked like it was just
  2708. 1:26:52kind of got kicked open or what not cuz
  2709. 1:26:54the way it was kind of just sitting
  2710. 1:26:56there.
  2711. 1:26:56>> Nah, I always have it like this cuz I'm
  2712. 1:26:58always leaning on the door.
  2713. 1:27:00>> All right.
  2714. 1:27:01>> Okay.
  2715. 1:27:02Did I let the girl go though?
  2716. 1:27:03>> Huh?
  2717. 1:27:04>> Did I let the girl go?
  2718. 1:27:06>> I think she's still in there.
  2719. 1:27:07>> She what?
  2720. 1:27:09She just spending the night with me.
  2721. 1:27:11>> She's not happy.
  2722. 1:27:13>> At me?
  2723. 1:27:14>> I think so. I don't know.
  2724. 1:27:16>> What she mad at?
  2725. 1:27:26I don't know what she probably mad at.
  2726. 1:27:27What she do?
  2727. 1:27:29>> [laughter]
  2728. 1:27:45>> Your name is Anthony Brown, right?
  2729. 1:27:48>> Yes, sir.
  2730. 1:27:49>> What do you do for work?
  2731. 1:27:53>> I do carriage.
  2732. 1:27:54>> Hm?
  2733. 1:27:55>> Carriage.
  2734. 1:27:59>> Sorry, I've been up way too long.
  2735. 1:28:01>> Carriage trash call.
  2736. 1:28:02>> Okay.
  2737. 1:28:03Carriage transport?
  2738. 1:28:05So, you're currently employed there?
  2739. 1:28:10Your mom said you want working.
  2740. 1:28:22Where is my mom?
  2741. 1:28:25I think she's at home.
  2742. 1:28:29What's the type of gun do you own? You
  2743. 1:28:31said it was a Glock.
  2744. 1:28:32Glock 19.
  2745. 1:28:379 mm.
  2746. 1:28:41Do you remember the ammo that you were
  2747. 1:28:42using? Some
  2748. 1:28:469, but I had all kind of 9 bullets in
  2749. 1:28:48there. They were regular
  2750. 1:28:519 mm hollows and then some regular 9
  2751. 1:28:54bullets.
  2752. 1:28:55I don't know how many I had in the
  2753. 1:28:56magazine or how many I had like 20.
  2754. 1:28:5925 or maybe one round
  2755. 1:29:01in the chamber.
  2756. 1:29:04Uh that's not a good time to have a jam.
  2757. 1:29:36It's hard to do anything with gloves on.
  2758. 1:29:42Oh, and how long have I been sitting
  2759. 1:29:43here?
  2760. 1:29:44Not much longer.
  2761. 1:29:46So what happens to the gun?
  2762. 1:29:48Um
  2763. 1:29:50I guess is that they're going to charge
  2764. 1:29:51you.
  2765. 1:29:55Charge me with what?
  2766. 1:29:57I think the guy is still alive, so it
  2767. 1:29:59would be aggravated assault.
  2768. 1:30:37>> I don't know. I did.
  2769. 1:30:39This just looks only.
  2770. 1:30:49You saw me seal it, right?
  2771. 1:31:11Thank you.
  2772. 1:31:13I didn't call nobody in there.
  2773. 1:31:15Um, you got to jail, bro.
  2774. 1:31:17Huh? You got to jail, you will.
  2775. 1:31:20Um, when your mom is doing it, you're
  2776. 1:31:21out here. That's all her out there. She
  2777. 1:31:23said
  2778. 1:31:24Huh? What did my mom what? I talked to
  2779. 1:31:26your mom out there. I mean, she's aware
  2780. 1:31:28you're here. She's kind of aware of the
  2781. 1:31:29situation.
  2782. 1:31:31I explained to her what situation was
  2783. 1:31:33and what, you know, we ended up taking
  2784. 1:31:35them from the house.
  2785. 1:31:36Um
  2786. 1:31:38Typically, I would say she's not mad,
  2787. 1:31:40she's just disappointed, but she was
  2788. 1:31:42both mad and disappointed,
  2789. 1:31:43unfortunately.
  2790. 1:31:44Um, I think the statement that I heard
  2791. 1:31:46repeatedly was that she has told you
  2792. 1:31:48over and over and over you need to stop
  2793. 1:31:50hanging out with those people.
  2794. 1:31:52So,
  2795. 1:31:53you know what it is.
  2796. 1:31:54Well, I didn't say I just took my gun
  2797. 1:31:56for life. Huh?
  2798. 1:31:58Well, I didn't even know where my gun
  2799. 1:31:59is.
  2800. 1:32:00Who took
  2801. 1:32:01Uh, I
  2802. 1:32:02total of a dozen items.
  2803. 1:32:05Between gun
  2804. 1:32:07um
  2805. 1:32:08some wire, ammunition, magazines. He had
  2806. 1:32:12There's some red pants that look
  2807. 1:32:13consistent with some videos that we'd
  2808. 1:32:14seen.
  2809. 1:32:16Um
  2810. 1:32:17I don't think what else, but off the top
  2811. 1:32:19of my head, that's what I'm remembering.
  2812. 1:32:21There's a whole list we left at the
  2813. 1:32:22residence.
  2814. 1:32:28>> [snorts]
  2815. 1:32:40>> All right, Mr. Brown.
  2816. 1:32:42They're going to take you on out to the
  2817. 1:32:43jail.
  2818. 1:32:44You're being uh charged with aggravated
  2819. 1:32:46assault today, and we'll probably be
  2820. 1:32:47upgrading those charges as events
  2821. 1:32:50change.
  2822. 1:32:53>> Um whose cuffs are these?
  2823. 1:32:55>> I'm not sure. Probably somebody that's
  2824. 1:32:57out
  2825. 1:32:58I think I'm going to with the uh initial
  2826. 1:33:01search warrant, somebody SRD.
  2827. 1:33:03>> Put your hands on the behind your back.
  2828. 1:33:06>> And then we'll just move this here back,
  2829. 1:33:08all right?
  2830. 1:33:16>> Put the hand behind your back for me.
  2831. 1:33:20>> You got any questions?
  2832. 1:33:28>> He's on that charge of murder.
  2833. 1:33:29>> We're just saying aggravated assault
  2834. 1:33:31today, but murder charges are pending.
  2835. 1:33:34>> What murder?
  2836. 1:33:35>> Yeah, as soon as he dies, you're going
  2837. 1:33:37to be charged with murder.
  2838. 1:33:43>> Where are you taking me?
  2839. 1:33:44>> All right, if you've got no questions,
  2840. 1:33:45we're going to get you out of here.
  2841. 1:33:47>> I'm going to get my papers.
  2842. 1:33:49>> Yeah, bring him with you.
  2843. 1:33:51>> I'm going to go ahead and search him
  2844. 1:33:53before we get out of here. I don't know
  2845. 1:33:53if he's got something on him.
  2846. 1:33:54>> Do you guys
  2847. 1:33:55Do you got anything on you?
  2848. 1:33:59I got that. Freeze.
  2849. 1:34:04>> Following the interrogation, Anthony
  2850. 1:34:06Brown was charged alongside Glendarius
  2851. 1:34:08Tate, Xzavier Faust, and Jaden Appling
  2852. 1:34:11in Clark [music] County Superior Court.
  2853. 1:34:14Although forensic testing determined
  2854. 1:34:16that the fatal bullet had been fired
  2855. 1:34:17from inside [music] Giovanni McDavid's
  2856. 1:34:19own vehicle, prosecutors argued that
  2857. 1:34:21Brown and the other defendants were
  2858. 1:34:23legally responsible because their
  2859. 1:34:25[music] initial attack provoked the
  2860. 1:34:26return fire that killed him.
  2861. 1:34:29All four were indicted on charges that
  2862. 1:34:30included felony murder,
  2863. 1:34:32>> [music]
  2864. 1:34:32>> aggravated assault,
  2865. 1:34:34gang-related offenses,
  2866. 1:34:36criminal damage to property,
  2867. 1:34:38>> [music]
  2868. 1:34:38>> and possession of a firearm during the
  2869. 1:34:40commission of a felony.
  2870. 1:34:42On September 16th, 2024, [music]
  2871. 1:34:45Brown pleaded guilty to voluntary
  2872. 1:34:47manslaughter,
  2873. 1:34:48five counts of aggravated assault,
  2874. 1:34:50two violations of Georgia's Street Gang
  2875. 1:34:53Terrorism [music] and Prevention Act,
  2876. 1:34:55criminal damage to property, a firearm
  2877. 1:34:57offense, and driving with a suspended
  2878. 1:34:59license.
  2879. 1:35:00Brown received a total sentence of 35
  2880. 1:35:03years
  2881. 1:35:03>> [music]
  2882. 1:35:03>> with 25 years to be served in state
  2883. 1:35:06prison and the remaining 10 years on
  2884. 1:35:08strict probation.
  2885. 1:35:10Tate and Faust accepted similar [music]
  2886. 1:35:11agreements and received the same
  2887. 1:35:13sentences.
  2888. 1:35:14Appling entered a separate guilty plea
  2889. 1:35:16[music] on February 15th, 2025.
  2890. 1:35:20He was also sentenced to 35 years, but
  2891. 1:35:22with 20 years in prison [music] followed
  2892. 1:35:24by 15 years of probation.
  2893. 1:35:26All four defendants remain in the
  2894. 1:35:27custody of the Georgia Department of
  2895. 1:35:29Corrections.
  2896. 1:35:30If you found this video informative,
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