The Video Destroyed His Entire Story | Anthony Brown Interrogation — Transcript
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- 0:00We have you on video running out the
- 0:01back door and throwing it in the garbage
- 0:03can.
- 0:05Don't look at me like that, man.
- 0:06>> What?
- 0:06>> Yes.
- 0:10>> Just after midnight on March [music]
- 0:125th, 2023,
- 0:14gunfire erupted in the Five Points
- 0:16neighborhood of Athens, Georgia.
- 0:18>> [music]
- 0:18>> Giovanni McDavid had just left a nearby
- 0:20gathering with four other people when
- 0:22their vehicle stopped at the
- 0:23intersection [music] of Northview Drive
- 0:25and Pinecrest Drive. Moments later, a
- 0:27white Honda pulled alongside them,
- 0:29stopped nearby, and several occupants
- 0:32opened fire.
- 0:33The people inside McDavid's vehicle
- 0:34[music] fired back. In only seconds,
- 0:37more than 40 rounds were exchanged
- 0:38across the intersection. [music]
- 0:40When the shooting ended, McDavid had
- 0:42suffered a fatal gunshot wound to the
- 0:43head.
- 0:44>> [music]
- 0:44>> Detectives immediately began collecting
- 0:46surveillance footage from businesses,
- 0:48nearby streets, and the University of
- 0:50Georgia camera network. The cameras
- 0:52allowed investigators to follow the
- 0:54suspected Accord away from the scene and
- 0:56into an Athens apartment complex, where
- 0:58four armed individuals were seen getting
- 1:00out.
- 1:01A registration check led police to
- 1:03Anthony Brown. Officers located him,
- 1:06searched his residence,
- 1:07>> [music]
- 1:07>> and recovered a 9-mm handgun.
- 1:10Now, investigators need to determine who
- 1:12was inside the Accord, what role each
- 1:14person played, [music] and what caused
- 1:16the encounter to turn deadly.
- 1:18This is the interrogation of Anthony
- 1:19Brown.
- 1:21>> I'm not arguing.
- 1:22>> Okay.
- 1:30Well, so
- 1:32I'm Detective Lister.
- 1:34Um
- 1:35Do you know why you're here?
- 1:36>> No.
- 1:37>> Do you know why you're here?
- 1:38>> No.
- 1:38>> Okay. Basically, I wanted to talk with
- 1:40you about last night, and kind of where
- 1:42you were, and anything like that. And I
- 1:45kind of want to get your side of things.
- 1:47Um but, what I need to do first, since
- 1:50you're in handcuffs, and you're not
- 1:52under arrest or anything like that, but
- 1:54since you're in handcuffs,
- 1:56uh I do need to make you aware of your
- 1:58rights, okay? But I'd love to talk with
- 2:00you, okay? So I'm going to read this to
- 2:02you and then I'll ask you two questions,
- 2:05okay?
- 2:06You have the right to remain silent.
- 2:07Anything you say can and will be used
- 2:09against you in a court of law. You have
- 2:10the right to talk to a lawyer. If you
- 2:12cannot afford to hire a lawyer, one will
- 2:13be appointed to represent you before any
- 2:15questioning if you wish. Even if you
- 2:17don't want a lawyer now and agree to
- 2:18talk with us, you can at any time change
- 2:20your mind
- 2:21and ask for a lawyer or stop talking
- 2:23with us.
- 2:25Do you understand each of these rights
- 2:26that I've explained them to you?
- 2:28Okay. Having these rights in mind, do
- 2:29you wish to talk with me about last
- 2:31night and clear some things up for me?
- 2:34You'll talk to me? Okay.
- 2:36So where were you last night?
- 2:38>> At home and then at my partner's house.
- 2:41>> At home?
- 2:42>> Yes.
- 2:43>> Okay.
- 2:44Uh what time were you at home?
- 2:46>> I got home probably like
- 2:491:00 2:00 in the morning.
- 2:52>> 1:00 or 2:00 a.m.?
- 2:53>> Yeah.
- 2:54>> Okay. Before that, where were you at?
- 2:56>> I was at my partner's house on College
- 2:58Station.
- 3:00>> Uh who's your partner?
- 3:02>> Uh Myron.
- 3:04>> Huh?
- 3:04>> Myron.
- 3:05>> How do you spell that?
- 3:07>> M y r o n.
- 3:17>> Okay.
- 3:19Uh what were you all doing over there at
- 3:21College Station?
- 3:22>> Playing on the game at his house.
- 3:24>> Playing games?
- 3:25>> Yeah. 4:00 p.m. 2:00 p.m.
- 3:27>> Okay.
- 3:29You pretty good at it?
- 3:31Yeah?
- 3:33>> I'm just saying what happened last
- 3:34night.
- 3:36>> Well, I think you know.
- 3:38But
- 3:40there was a shooting last night.
- 3:43Okay?
- 3:43>> And what?
- 3:44>> And I know you're known to drive a white
- 3:46Honda Accord.
- 3:48>> Yeah.
- 3:48>> Right?
- 3:49>> Yeah.
- 3:50>> Okay. That vehicle is parked at your
- 3:51house.
- 3:52>> Yeah. That's your car, right?
- 3:54>> My mom will drive it.
- 3:55>> Your mom's car?
- 3:56But she let you drive it?
- 3:58So, who was driving your car last night?
- 4:00>> I was.
- 4:01>> You were?
- 4:02>> Yeah.
- 4:02>> Okay, your car is seen at a shooting
- 4:04last night on video.
- 4:08>> Yeah, but the shooting happened at on a
- 4:09whole another street.
- 4:11>> Yeah? Where at?
- 4:13>> I don't know cuz it was a around the
- 4:15corner.
- 4:16>> It was around the corner from you?
- 4:17>> Yeah.
- 4:19>> From Myron's house?
- 4:20>> No, when we were driving, soon as I
- 4:22turned on Mellow Ridge, we started
- 4:25hearing shooting. I skirted off and got
- 4:27back on the front street of Mellow
- 4:28Ridge.
- 4:29>> You Okay.
- 4:30>> The shooting was still happening when
- 4:32I'm driving off.
- 4:33>> Why was someone hanging out of your car
- 4:34with a rifle?
- 4:36>> Nobody hanging out of my car with a
- 4:37rifle.
- 4:37>> And we have it on video, man. I see
- 4:39someone hanging out of your passenger
- 4:41window,
- 4:42your front passenger window with a
- 4:43rifle.
- 4:45And they blasted off from your vehicle
- 4:48at least 30 rounds.
- 4:51>> What?
- 4:51>> Yeah.
- 4:54>> I don't know when that happened.
- 4:55>> Really?
- 4:57Okay.
- 4:58>> That didn't happen. I don't know Nobody
- 4:59didn't shoot cuz it went on our street.
- 5:03>> Okay.
- 5:05So, your story already doesn't make
- 5:06sense.
- 5:07>> How?
- 5:08The shooting happened on a whole another
- 5:10street. You still hear the shooting when
- 5:11we driving off.
- 5:12>> I mentioned there was a shooting last
- 5:13night and then you already knew where it
- 5:15happened.
- 5:16>> Cuz the girl got on live saying my name.
- 5:19Everybody calling me this morning to my
- 5:21watch she on live saying
- 5:22>> What girl?
- 5:23>> I don't know the girl. I don't even
- 5:24follow her. She got on Instagram live
- 5:26saying Nick.
- 5:27>> So, someone was saying you did it.
- 5:29>> Yeah.
- 5:30>> Already?
- 5:30>> Yeah.
- 5:31>> Why would they say that?
- 5:32>> Cuz the folks who party was don't like
- 5:34us.
- 5:35>> They don't like you?
- 5:36>> They don't like Yeah.
- 5:37>> What do you mean us?
- 5:39>> I'm just They don't like people from
- 5:40uptown.
- 5:41>> EBK?
- 5:42>> No, I just said uptown.
- 5:45Talking about EBK. Talking about sides
- 5:48of town. All right, that side of town
- 5:50don't know what his size of town.
- 5:51>> Yeah, that party was a RTG party.
- 5:54>> No, that wasn't that was really the
- 5:55Aries down. That's the same group party.
- 5:58What are you talking about?
- 5:59>> Okay. So, people there aren't RTG.
- 6:02>> I don't know. I couldn't didn't know we
- 6:04didn't know where the party was.
- 6:06>> Okay.
- 6:06>> We thought it was a college party then
- 6:07we couldn't even find it. Soon as we
- 6:09turned past the little UJ practice
- 6:11field, that's folks started shooting.
- 6:15>> Who was in the car with you?
- 6:18>> It was nobody with me.
- 6:19>> You were just driving by yourself?
- 6:21>> Yeah, I was in the car with myself.
- 6:22>> Why do you keep saying we though?
- 6:25>> I said folks don't like us.
- 6:26>> No, I don't know. When you were talking
- 6:28about turning and driving around, you
- 6:30said we.
- 6:32>> I didn't say no we.
- 6:33>> Okay.
- 6:34>> I ain't mean to. You want me to say I?
- 6:38Cuz my partner just went with a girl.
- 6:40Nobody let off no rounds from my car.
- 6:42>> Sure. Okay.
- 6:44So, when we do a search warrant on the
- 6:46car, are we going to locate any shell
- 6:47casings inside of it?
- 6:49>> No.
- 6:50>> No?
- 6:51And the other car that we just brought
- 6:53in, that other white car that you saw in
- 6:55the parking lot.
- 6:56>> Yeah.
- 6:57>> Why were you shocked to see it?
- 6:59>> I wasn't. Who said I was shocked? I
- 7:01thought it was my car. I kept looking at
- 7:02the car trying to see if it was mine.
- 7:04And I didn't see no dice right there.
- 7:05Cuz I think like why they taking my
- 7:07mom's car?
- 7:08>> Yeah, no. We've got your mom's car.
- 7:10Cuz your car was clearly seen on video
- 7:13going to where the shooting was and
- 7:15driving away from it.
- 7:16And people are shooting from that car.
- 7:19So, I'd appreciate if you were honest
- 7:21with me.
- 7:22>> The shooting happened on a whole
- 7:24[clears throat] 'nother street. It was
- 7:25five of us. My car is out there.
- 7:27Same kind of car. I see all these folks
- 7:30fleeing the scene. That's why I ran the
- 7:32red light.
- 7:32>> So, everyone's got a got a white Honda
- 7:35Accord.
- 7:35>> say everybody, but it was like 400
- 7:37folks. We didn't even get to see where
- 7:39the party was. Soon as I turned past the
- 7:42practice field,
- 7:43we hear shooting. Boom, I don't even
- 7:45ride up the right street. I turn right.
- 7:49And back on the front street of
- 7:50Milledge, you'll see it on camera.
- 7:53See it on camera by the go to practice
- 7:54field and Kelly's.
- 7:56I wasn't even on the street 2 seconds.
- 7:57Soon as we turn,
- 7:59soon as I turn, they start shooting.
- 8:01>> I wouldn't be talking to you right now
- 8:03if we weren't sure that your car was
- 8:04there. Okay?
- 8:06>> I I'm not
- 8:07Yeah, I'm you right. I'm not No, my car
- 8:09was there. But
- 8:11if you watch the camera, you see it.
- 8:12>> But when we when we watch the video,
- 8:15there's someone leaning out of your
- 8:17front passenger window with a with a
- 8:19rifle. Yeah, shooting. I'm not kidding.
- 8:22So, that's what I want to understand.
- 8:23Who was in the car with you?
- 8:25>> It wasn't nobody.
- 8:26>> If you weren't shooting, that's fine. If
- 8:28one of your friends was stupid and he
- 8:29was shooting, then tell me.
- 8:32>> Weren't nobody shooting in my car.
- 8:34That's what I'm telling you. Weren't no
- 8:35shells fired from my car. It was guns in
- 8:36the car, but we didn't Nobody fired no
- 8:38shells.
- 8:39>> Okay.
- 8:39>> Cuz the the shooting didn't happen on
- 8:41our street. If you probably you still
- 8:43you can still see it on the camera from
- 8:44the practice field.
- 8:45The party was up the hill. It had to be.
- 8:47I turned right.
- 8:50I went right. Next thing you know, you
- 8:52hear 20 gunshots.
- 8:54By the time they on the 10th gunshot,
- 8:56I'm on Milledge leaving.
- 9:00>> Okay.
- 9:02Um so, who was in the car with you?
- 9:04>> I was by myself.
- 9:06Weren't nobody.
- 9:07>> You said
- 9:09you had guns in the car and you keep
- 9:10saying with
- 9:11nobody.
- 9:12>> I had my gun.
- 9:14>> Okay.
- 9:14>> That's all I had. If they find my gun at
- 9:17home, you can tell it ain't been shot. I
- 9:19ain't did nothing.
- 9:20>> Okay, and you're not a convicted felon
- 9:22or anything?
- 9:22>> No.
- 9:23>> Okay.
- 9:24>> This is crazy, bro.
- 9:25>> Well, that's that's why I'm asking these
- 9:27questions, man.
- 9:28>> That's why everybody follow me this
- 9:29morning. That girl said I don't lie and
- 9:30said my name talking some nick down. But
- 9:33it wasn't us. It was a million people
- 9:34out there.
- 9:35As soon as I turn Milledge, they're
- 9:37shooting.
- 9:39A whole bunch of gunshots. Wasn't nobody
- 9:40out there with my car shooting no rifle.
- 9:42>> Is that your girl in the other room?
- 9:44Like, are you dating her?
- 9:45>> No.
- 9:46>> Okay.
- 9:47>> She was just over there.
- 9:49>> She was just hanging out?
- 9:50>> Yeah. [clears throat]
- 9:50>> Okay. When did she get over this
- 9:51morning, like get over to you?
- 9:54>> Uh
- 9:56I don't know. I had texted when I had
- 9:57just woke back up around like 4:00 or
- 9:595:00.
- 10:00>> Okay.
- 10:03And you're saying that you were over at
- 10:05Myron's house playing 2K?
- 10:08Okay.
- 10:09Um is there a phone number that I can
- 10:10reach Myron at?
- 10:11>> His phone number
- 10:12>> His phone's off? What's his address? Do
- 10:14you know?
- 10:15>> I don't know.
- 10:16I do know it's somewhere on College
- 10:18Street.
- 10:19>> Okay.
- 10:21>> This is crazy. It's somebody out my car
- 10:23shooting, you know.
- 10:26I would count.
- 10:27>> Well, so think about it this way.
- 10:29We see your car go to the scene, okay?
- 10:33We see someone shoot from that vehicle,
- 10:35okay?
- 10:36Then we see that vehicle go back to
- 10:37Bethel.
- 10:40Okay?
- 10:41>> Mhm.
- 10:41>> I've got that car going to Bethel first,
- 10:45going to the party,
- 10:47shooting at the party,
- 10:48and then going back to Bethel. Got it
- 10:50all on camera.
- 10:52And I see someone exit from the vehicle,
- 10:54too.
- 10:56A couple people. More than one.
- 10:59Okay?
- 11:01And you know there's this thing called a
- 11:02tag reader?
- 11:04>> Mhm.
- 11:04>> That's in Bethel.
- 11:06And it ran your tag.
- 11:07>> Okay.
- 11:08>> On your vehicle.
- 11:09>> I don't know. I stay on College Street.
- 11:10I always be in the Bethel.
- 11:11>> So what were you doing in Bethel last
- 11:12night?
- 11:13>> I go out there every day. You watch the
- 11:14camera from this week, you going to see
- 11:15me
- 11:16>> What I'm saying is is you said you were
- 11:17at Myron's on College Street.
- 11:19>> You'll see mine in the Bethel, too, if
- 11:21you watch the camera. I left Myron's
- 11:22house, went to the Bethel.
- 11:23>> Okay. So when did y'all go to Bethel?
- 11:26>> I don't know what time it was. Probably
- 11:27like
- 11:30Normal.
- 11:32It couldn't have been long before two
- 11:34left the two. Could I have went to the
- 11:36alleyway after? Could I have went to
- 11:37gamble no more?
- 11:39I don't know.
- 11:41>> Were you gambling at Myron's?
- 11:42>> Yeah.
- 11:44I don't know. Probably right after all
- 11:46this stuff had happened. Went back to
- 11:47the building. That when we was in the
- 11:48car and she got on live telling me
- 11:50something. [ __ ] why y'all AJ do that?
- 11:53Y'all everybody texting me and stuff.
- 11:55But I wasn't I wasn't paying no mind cuz
- 11:57folks saying my name on her stream all
- 11:59the time though. Like what?
- 12:02So the folks saying you did that? That
- 12:03is crazy.
- 12:13Like what? He was a million of my
- 12:15[ __ ] cars out there.
- 12:18>> Dude, how many of the vehicles do you
- 12:20think have your tag?
- 12:22>> None.
- 12:22>> And dice hanging in the mirror?
- 12:24>> None. But dice, yeah.
- 12:27Everybody have dice.
- 12:30I don't know what that dice.
- 12:32Everybody have dice in one though.
- 12:35And so you When they When he firing the
- 12:36shots out the car, you see my tag?
- 12:39That's
- 12:39>> We see your vehicle with the dice,
- 12:41everything.
- 12:43Ain't no way. Dude, I got ring video
- 12:44that's clear. Real clear.
- 12:47>> Ain't no way.
- 12:48>> No way?
- 12:51>> It said nobody in my car shooting no
- 12:53shots. It happened on the whole another
- 12:55street.
- 12:56I hopped out the car.
- 12:59I stopped the car on the street when
- 13:00they start shooting. You hear the shots.
- 13:02>> Why do you hop out of the car when
- 13:04they're shooting?
- 13:04>> I didn't say I hopped out. I stopped it.
- 13:06>> You just said you hopped out. Then you
- 13:08said you stopped.
- 13:09>> Oh, I mean I just stopped and let down
- 13:11my window cuz this [ __ ] when that
- 13:13happening on the street we was on.
- 13:15You can hear it on the ring camera. You
- 13:17hear it on the whole another street up
- 13:18there by the party.
- 13:20>> Okay.
- 13:21>> And then that's when your girl text me
- 13:22telling me somebody died at the party.
- 13:24You know I said yeah when we was
- 13:25shooting.
- 13:26I said when they were shooting when we
- 13:28heard they shooting
- 13:30I said, when we heard they shooting,
- 13:31bro, somebody just died, bro.
- 13:34They were shooting on the whole another
- 13:35road. If you watch the rain camera, you
- 13:37can see it. We went on the road and
- 13:38party was on.
- 13:41We didn't even find the party.
- 13:42>> Why didn't you tell me that you went to
- 13:44Bethel?
- 13:45You told me you went to Minor's, then
- 13:47you told me you went home.
- 13:49>> Cuz I wasn't even in Bethel 5 minutes.
- 13:52Cuz they told me that they wanted to
- 13:53shoot lights and I came out there they
- 13:54weren't talking about nothing. They came
- 13:55out there telling me about the lie.
- 13:57So, I said, "Minor, let's go."
- 13:58>> Well, you were in Bethel before the
- 14:00shooting, too. At midnight.
- 14:03>> Yeah, I said, "Minor, let's get out of
- 14:04here."
- 14:05>> Yeah, so you were there at midnight. You
- 14:07left.
- 14:09You drove out to where the party was and
- 14:11then you came right back.
- 14:12>> I didn't know 12. I was gone for a
- 14:15little minute.
- 14:16>> Yeah, you were gone for 20 minutes.
- 14:18I can account I can account for every
- 14:20minute your vehicle's gone from Bethel
- 14:22and when it gets back.
- 14:24>> Yeah, I left like three, four times
- 14:26today.
- 14:27>> You'd be surprised how many cameras are
- 14:28in Athens.
- 14:30>> I'm not surprised. I'm not worried about
- 14:32that. I'm just saying.
- 14:34>> I'd be worried if I were you because I
- 14:36honestly your story doesn't make any
- 14:38sense to me.
- 14:39>> How?
- 14:40>> It's not lining up.
- 14:42>> How is not lining
- 14:43>> You're skipping around. You're not being
- 14:44consistent. So,
- 14:47I'm asking for the truth.
- 14:48>> I'm telling you the truth. I rode past
- 14:50the party, we heard gunshots. The shots
- 14:53didn't come from me.
- 14:54>> How do you know how many people were
- 14:56there if y'all never made it to the
- 14:57party?
- 14:58>> I have Instagram. You act like I'm not a
- 15:00young kid.
- 15:01>> Look, look, that's fine. You're
- 15:03explaining it.
- 15:04>> We've been knowing about the party all
- 15:05week. We knew the whole Athens was going
- 15:06to be at the party.
- 15:08>> But the people that were there don't
- 15:09like you.
- 15:10>> Yeah, that's why we didn't go.
- 15:12We didn't know that was their party on
- 15:14Milledge. We were talking to them on the
- 15:15east side.
- 15:17A college girl just told me that this is
- 15:19a UGA party and we can't even find it.
- 15:22Soon as I turn past the practice field,
- 15:24shots let off.
- 15:26How could you possibly say that's us?
- 15:28>> Did you think someone was shooting at
- 15:29you?
- 15:30>> No, cuz nobody was on the street with
- 15:32me, sir. That's what I'm telling you.
- 15:34The street was empty.
- 15:35>> Okay.
- 15:38>> Our whole street was empty.
- 15:40If you see it was see it on the ring
- 15:41camera.
- 15:42Nobody was on the street but us.
- 15:45>> Okay.
- 15:46>> You see me stop my car.
- 15:49See what the hell going on.
- 15:50>> I definitely see you stopped the car.
- 15:52>> Yeah, you see me stop and all you hear
- 15:54is shots. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom,
- 15:56boom.
- 15:57>> Yeah.
- 15:57>> I'm like, "What the hell?"
- 15:58>> But there's someone leaning out of the
- 16:00window. That's the thing. It's on video.
- 16:02I could print a picture and show you.
- 16:05>> Didn't nobody even hop out my car,
- 16:06though.
- 16:07>> Like I I like I'm
- 16:08>> Nobody even hang out my window.
- 16:11But this crazy.
- 16:12>> But you said you were alone in the car.
- 16:15You weren't alone in the car. So, just
- 16:16be honest with me. Who was in the car
- 16:19with you?
- 16:23Cuz I'm looking for honesty here, okay?
- 16:25I'm not trying to be rude. I'm not
- 16:27trying to be a dick.
- 16:29I want you to be honest with me.
- 16:32>> I am being honest with you.
- 16:33>> Okay, then who was in the car with you?
- 16:38>> Weren't nobody with me.
- 16:40Nobody was checking in that night.
- 16:42>> I don't know who you're trying to
- 16:43convince, yourself or me.
- 16:45>> I ain't trying to convince you.
- 16:48I don't remember we had to I let the
- 16:50bell through the trunk.
- 16:53They told me and my we didn't do
- 16:55nothing.
- 16:56For my car didn't do nothing.
- 16:59But this crazy.
- 17:02I didn't even know nothing happened.
- 17:06>> Okay.
- 17:07>> Till this morning, till all these girls
- 17:09text me and stuff.
- 17:11Told my son Nick, if you had something
- 17:12to do with that, it's wrong cuz you know
- 17:14I was there. My assistant stuff were
- 17:16there. I didn't shoot up that party.
- 17:18If you watch on the E40 green camera,
- 17:20the shooting happened on the other on
- 17:22the street.
- 17:23I'm not lying.
- 17:25>> The shooting happened on the street.
- 17:27That's fine. Your car is seen on that
- 17:29video. That's the thing. Where the party
- 17:31was.
- 17:32>> My car is seen on the street where the
- 17:34party was.
- 17:34>> Yeah.
- 17:35>> Oh, wait. Where is it?
- 17:36>> That's That's the thing. So, that's what
- 17:38I'm trying to understand is why would it
- 17:40have been there.
- 17:42>> Cuz somebody had told me it was a UJA
- 17:43party, but I went on the right street
- 17:46cuz you could hear the party on the next
- 17:47street. I'm finna get ready to stop the
- 17:50car and turn around. Soon as the other
- 17:52white Honda turn, you just hear shots.
- 17:56>> Around what time were you were you
- 17:58heading over to the party?
- 18:00So, I can confirm it. If it If it's not
- 18:02your vehicle, then fine and I'll I'll go
- 18:05and look back in the video, okay?
- 18:06>> I don't know about that.
- 18:07>> But, I need a time frame.
- 18:08>> probably like 1:00 something.
- 18:101:00 something.
- 18:12I was at home probably like 2:00. 2:00
- 18:14something.
- 18:15>> But, I'm saying around what time did you
- 18:16go to the party or try and go to it?
- 18:18>> It was probably 1:00 something.
- 18:21Rode through there. You know the middle
- 18:23through in there right there.
- 18:26So, soon as I ride through there,
- 18:28nothing going on.
- 18:31>> So, since you rode there, you couldn't
- 18:33see like there was nothing going on.
- 18:34>> I rode there, it was no party going on.
- 18:36That's when everybody was like That was
- 18:38I got on Instagram. I was like, "Oh,
- 18:39party over here. Everybody went after
- 18:41party." I was like, "Okay." I'm
- 18:42thinking, "Can you say after party after
- 18:44party?"
- 18:45But, I still hear music like up the
- 18:47hill. I hear music like rocking.
- 18:49I just rode past the white Honda. So, I
- 18:52was like, "There ain't no party out
- 18:53here."
- 18:54So, this car turned up the hill. Next
- 18:56thing you know, I hear Fire! Fire! Fire!
- 18:58Fire!
- 18:59We weren't shooting. I got I got on.
- 19:02>> You scared there?
- 19:03>> I Yeah, straight.
- 19:04>> Okay.
- 19:07Okay.
- 19:07>> I was in shock when the start when the
- 19:09shots let off. You see me on camera
- 19:11slamming on brakes, then nobody hang out
- 19:13my window.
- 19:15I have my gun.
- 19:16>> When you slammed When you slammed your
- 19:18brakes, where were you?
- 19:20>> I was like I just turned down in the
- 19:21neighborhood. I'm like in the middle.
- 19:23I'm like middle of the road.
- 19:25>> Middle of the road?
- 19:26>> Yeah, but I'm like on my side of the
- 19:27lane, but nobody's on the road. I just
- 19:29stopped the car listening to the shots.
- 19:33It's crazy you say you got somebody
- 19:35hanging out my window.
- 19:36>> Well, that that's the thing. Actually,
- 19:37if you want, I'll go print a picture and
- 19:39I'll show you.
- 19:44But
- 19:45uh let me go see if there's anything
- 19:47else I need to ask you, okay? Just so I
- 19:49can
- 19:49>> I'm under arrest?
- 19:50>> No. No, you're not under arrest, like I
- 19:52said.
- 19:53>> I'm just being detained.
- 19:54>> Just detained right now. I'm trying to
- 19:55understand what happened last night,
- 19:57okay? I'm talking with you, getting your
- 19:59side of it.
- 20:00Okay?
- 20:01So, let me go see if uh if there's any
- 20:03more questions, okay?
- 20:05>> Where you going to have us get scared
- 20:06while I'm on the phone, brother?
- 20:08You look like 200 lbs. Folks on your
- 20:10lab.
- 20:11>> Well, if I can figure out who she is,
- 20:12I'll talk with her, too, okay? And I'll
- 20:14see if she's full of it.
- 20:15>> Or that dude saying I'm responsible for
- 20:17shooting. This crazy.
- 20:19>> Okay?
- 20:20>> How long you've been sitting combat? You
- 20:21can't hurt me, please.
- 20:22>> Uh it shouldn't take long, okay? And
- 20:24I'll get some cuff keys and I'll move
- 20:26them to the front. Okay?
- 20:31>> [snorts]
- 20:33>> I knew I shouldn't have even rolled
- 20:34through there, bro. Yeah, this crazy.
- 20:38Talking about some ho hanging out my
- 20:39window.
- 20:41Bro.
- 20:44Ain't nobody that I know shooting. Like,
- 20:46what?
- 20:50This [ __ ] is crazy, bro.
- 20:53All this Somebody said my name.
- 20:58Only know uh
- 21:02Let me see the phone.
- 21:04I didn't know what the other
- 21:06person UGA practice field.
- 21:09>> Football field?
- 21:10>> Yeah.
- 21:10>> Right.
- 21:11>> Which one did I turn?
- 21:13Which one with the light in?
- 21:15>> Uh
- 21:15there's a light here.
- 21:18>> Okay, so you were coming up this way.
- 21:20Then we turned past the field.
- 21:23And I guess this is where the this is
- 21:24where the neighbor is at.
- 21:25>> No.
- 21:26>> So what?
- 21:29Which one the neighbor is at?
- 21:31>> That's what I was asking you. Where were
- 21:32you driving last night?
- 21:34>> I drove up here in the practice field
- 21:37with you.
- 21:38So my left.
- 21:40>> Yeah.
- 21:40>> So my
- 21:41>> Practice field, if you're driving this
- 21:42way, it'll be on your left.
- 21:44>> Yeah. And I made a left. And it was a
- 21:47little road
- 21:48to the right.
- 21:50And it was a hill going forward. It's a
- 21:52You only can go forward and right unless
- 21:53you're going to the school.
- 21:56I took a right.
- 21:58The other white Honda came out, took
- 22:01went up the hill.
- 22:02I went down some more, probably about
- 22:05a mile and a half down.
- 22:07Heard shots, slammed on brakes.
- 22:10Probably about 20 more shots.
- 22:13Screwed it up.
- 22:16Damn.
- 22:19>> Do you remember where you stopped?
- 22:21>> At the light [clears throat] in front of
- 22:22Golden Pantry.
- 22:25Beside Golden Pantry.
- 22:29I basically went to the square. I wasn't
- 22:31even over there for 2 seconds.
- 22:33So as I turned over there, it was
- 22:34already soon.
- 22:37I knew the party was going forward. I
- 22:39had it on my map, so UGA graduate sent
- 22:41me the address.
- 22:42When they started shooting, I turned
- 22:44right.
- 22:45Past all these houses and kept going
- 22:47straight and came out by the Golden
- 22:49Pantry.
- 22:50Took that right.
- 22:52These folks almost hit my car, so I ran
- 22:55the light.
- 22:56You see me on camera running the light
- 22:58cuz somebody almost backed into me.
- 23:02See plenty folks scatter.
- 23:04So I put my car in the light and I was
- 23:06like, "What?"
- 23:07There nobody out. There nobody even got
- 23:09my window. There nobody shooting on our
- 23:11street.
- 23:13We was on the same street the shot
- 23:14happened, sir.
- 23:19>> So I'm going to ask you again.
- 23:23Who was in your car?
- 23:24>> I was drunk. I said I was drunk.
- 23:27I said I don't remember
- 23:28I don't remember taking my little
- 23:29brother home.
- 23:32>> Okay. But when you were when you were
- 23:34headed to the party, who was in the car
- 23:35with you?
- 23:36>> I was drunk. I don't remember. I just
- 23:38said I'm going to the I said [ __ ] Oh
- 23:40yeah, behold just sent me to drop to the
- 23:41party. I'm going to go party with the
- 23:43college folks. I forgot who hopped in my
- 23:45car with Trump.
- 23:47>> Okay, so now there were people in your
- 23:49car.
- 23:50>> You say you saw them on camera, but
- 23:52really I don't even remember. I don't
- 23:54know if I dropped them off first or
- 23:55Ronald first.
- 23:56>> Do you remember shooting someone in the
- 23:57head?
- 23:58>> No.
- 23:59>> Okay. Then who in your car shot someone
- 24:02in the head?
- 24:03>> There nobody shoot from my car.
- 24:06Like this was so crazy. You sound like
- 24:07them folks on Instagram. Why do it have
- 24:09to be us?
- 24:10>> I'm not those folks on the Instagram,
- 24:12man.
- 24:12>> them folks out there with guns. We
- 24:14wasn't shooting.
- 24:16They was up the hill shooting.
- 24:18>> There was literally someone hanging out
- 24:20of your car shooting a rifle, a pistol,
- 24:22AR.
- 24:24I can see the full gun.
- 24:28So I need you to be honest with me. If
- 24:31it was an accident, it was an accident.
- 24:32If someone was shooting at y'all and
- 24:33y'all were shooting back, whatever.
- 24:36But I need honesty.
- 24:38I can't I can't keep getting BS because
- 24:40it's not going to help you.
- 24:41>> I'm not giving you BS. I was driving. I
- 24:43didn't hear no gunshots coming out of my
- 24:45car. I would have heard the gunshot.
- 24:48I would have heard shots. When no shots
- 24:50right beside me.
- 24:51All I heard was shots from up the hill.
- 24:54Ain't no way nobody from my car could
- 24:56shoot somebody. Listen, Who was the only
- 24:58car on the street?
- 25:00Where is the Where Where are the people
- 25:01we shooting at? The party was up the
- 25:03hill.
- 25:05We wasn't on the street the party was
- 25:06on. I had the address. The party was
- 25:08straight.
- 25:10I was I turned right.
- 25:13It's a whole another road, empty road.
- 25:15Like
- 25:16>> And then all of a sudden you heard
- 25:17gunshots.
- 25:18>> What you mean all of a sudden?
- 25:20>> I'm saying you turned right and then all
- 25:21of a sudden you heard gunshots, right?
- 25:23>> Yeah.
- 25:23>> And you stopped in your lane in the
- 25:26middle of the road
- 25:27because you didn't know where the
- 25:28gunshots were coming from, right?
- 25:30>> Yeah, but I know they ain't coming from
- 25:32our from nowhere near I know they ain't
- 25:34coming at us or for us cuz ain't nobody
- 25:36else on the road.
- 25:37There's nobody else on the road.
- 25:38>> And when we look at your car there
- 25:40aren't going to be any bullet holes or
- 25:41anything?
- 25:41>> No.
- 25:43That's what I'm telling you. I was
- 25:43nowhere near the shooting.
- 25:45I was just looking I looked at my car
- 25:47and everything at home. [clears throat]
- 25:48>> And if I were to do a GSR test on your
- 25:50hands, would it come back with gunshot
- 25:52residue?
- 25:53>> I don't know.
- 25:54>> Cuz it lasts pretty pretty long.
- 25:56>> No, listen. I didn't shoot.
- 25:58>> It shouldn't or it won't?
- 26:00>> It's not.
- 26:02Damn. All right.
- 26:04I'm still on both sides, like
- 26:08>> How much you have to drink?
- 26:10>> A lot. I was with some girls. I was with
- 26:12Shawty.
- 26:14Like what?
- 26:17[ __ ] is crazy, bro.
- 26:19You thought I really came to pick me up
- 26:21about this.
- 26:23>> Well, you know that person
- 26:25is in critical condition right now,
- 26:26right?
- 26:27>> I don't know who got shot.
- 26:29I don't even know.
- 26:32Stupid bugs.
- 26:34Um
- 26:39I just want to know who I hurt.
- 26:40>> You said those the people at the party
- 26:42don't get along with you or your
- 26:43friends, right?
- 26:45>> Yeah, but I didn't find out it was their
- 26:46party till after the shooting happened.
- 26:49And everybody sending me this girl eyes.
- 26:51I'm like, "Why why she saying your name.
- 26:53>> Who is that girl? Is she related to
- 26:56anyone? Like
- 26:58>> Nah, I don't even know her Instagram cuz
- 27:00they had her page private.
- 27:02>> Okay.
- 27:03>> even get to see it. I woke up early this
- 27:05in the morning. They told me that she
- 27:06did a shoot with my Mojo going off on me
- 27:08about it.
- 27:09>> Do you have your phone with you?
- 27:11>> No.
- 27:11>> No?
- 27:12Do you have the keys to the car?
- 27:14>> No.
- 27:14>> In your pocket?
- 27:15>> No.
- 27:16>> No?
- 27:22>> Like this is crazy.
- 27:25>> Well, then they'll probably end up just
- 27:27uh
- 27:28popping the door open.
- 27:31Do you know where the keys are?
- 27:33To the car?
- 27:34>> I don't [clears throat] know. My guy got
- 27:35them.
- 27:36>> Okay.
- 27:41So, can you run me through last night
- 27:43again?
- 27:45>> Yeah, I'm in there
- 27:47talking to my friend girl.
- 27:49>> What's that? And around what time did
- 27:51that like did you start your night?
- 27:54>> We was gambling for hours.
- 27:57Yeah, somebody just wanted to meet me in
- 28:00the building.
- 28:01So, I came I went to the building. She
- 28:02ain't never come.
- 28:05She ain't never come. I was just sitting
- 28:07out there.
- 28:09Went to the house, got some clothes,
- 28:13came back.
- 28:15>> Went to whose house? Your house?
- 28:17>> Yeah.
- 28:18I went back.
- 28:20Sitting out there still bored. The boy
- 28:22heard like to one song two songs.
- 28:25>> Are you able to put times to these?
- 28:29>> I was there like one song or two.
- 28:32I know it was in between one and two.
- 28:37Then we see these folks online.
- 28:39And then UJ video follow me like she
- 28:41here pull up.
- 28:43I'm seeing I'm seeing like a frat boy. I
- 28:45don't even see no black folks. People
- 28:46don't me. I wasn't even to it up.
- 28:49That's 101, duh. Why would I come? Play
- 28:52y'all for don't like me.
- 28:54Anyway, I come You know it's only like 2
- 28:563 minutes away from the Bethel. It don't
- 28:58take you no time to get there. I'm like,
- 28:59damn, the party right here.
- 29:01There you got to be some college folks.
- 29:03Boom, turn.
- 29:05Party there. Where the party? It's
- 29:07crickets. Street dead. Nobody's on this
- 29:09street.
- 29:11Next thing you know, I hear the loud
- 29:12music from up the hill.
- 29:14Boom, you don't hear no music on my end.
- 29:16Boom boom boom boom boom boom.
- 29:18He ain't shoot no more than like 15
- 29:20times. I don't know where you getting 30
- 29:22from.
- 29:23I only heard like 10 shots, 15 shots.
- 29:26Not straight up.
- 29:31So, my almost hit my car at a red light,
- 29:33ran red light.
- 29:34Where was that at?
- 29:36Beside Golden Pantry on Millage. You'll
- 29:38see it on camera.
- 29:39>> Okay. So, I'll go to Golden Pantry and
- 29:41I'll see that.
- 29:42>> Yeah, you'll see me running the red
- 29:43light cuz that fool just started
- 29:45shooting.
- 29:47>> Okay.
- 29:49Um
- 29:53Who stays off of uh
- 29:55Conrad and MOK? You drive up that way a
- 29:58little bit.
- 30:00Pretty often.
- 30:01>> Conrad and MOK?
- 30:02>> Mhm. Towards 441.
- 30:05The road you take to Commerce.
- 30:07>> Commerce?
- 30:07>> Yeah.
- 30:08>> I just take that way to get out of the
- 30:09highway and go to the Bethel.
- 30:13>> Okay.
- 30:17>> Unless you talking about another way.
- 30:19Sometimes I be on Commerce Road.
- 30:22Going to the Bethel.
- 30:24>> So, what were you doing last night when
- 30:26uh you had gotten out of your car at
- 30:27Bethel and then went over to another car
- 30:29and you looked like you were putting
- 30:30stuff in that car.
- 30:33>> The stuff in the other car? Out of my
- 30:35car and into another car?
- 30:36>> Yeah.
- 30:37>> I never did I got in the car with Myron.
- 30:40>> With Myron at Bethel?
- 30:41>> Yeah, I told you [ __ ] Yeah. I told you.
- 30:45Okay. So it makes sense. You keep saying
- 30:48my story ain't up, but he pulled up out
- 30:50there right after.
- 30:51What were you wearing last night?
- 30:53Um.
- 30:56A blue shirt.
- 30:58A blue [clears throat] uh long-sleeve
- 31:00blue shirt and
- 31:01uh
- 31:02and uh some Js and a ski mask.
- 31:06Okay, and what kind of shorts or pants?
- 31:09I had on some uh regular black pants.
- 31:11Regular black pants? Yeah, some black
- 31:13ones. And a ski mask? Yeah. Is that a
- 31:16normal thing?
- 31:17It is. It is like a regular thing. Well,
- 31:20I'm saying like especially if it's cold.
- 31:23Yeah.
- 31:25I was about to sleep there, but I put on
- 31:27my hoodie and my ski because it got cold
- 31:29outside.
- 31:30It did get cold.
- 31:36This is crazy.
- 31:38Time really ain't it.
- 31:40Me
- 31:41and all people.
- 31:43I know all of the people that I like.
- 31:45This wild.
- 31:51I know it's all mostly four people on
- 31:53camera.
- 31:54They coming at me. So
- 31:56you're saying that because of one person
- 31:59on Instagram said something, you're now
- 32:00in here?
- 32:02Cuz we didn't even know that she had
- 32:03said anything. We got to the conclusion
- 32:05we got to.
- 32:07But I didn't say cuz of that one person.
- 32:09We got to the conclusion that we're at
- 32:12based on actual video footage. Okay?
- 32:15Actual investigative means. Yeah, I
- 32:17understand it. You know,
- 32:19it's it's it's not some he said, she
- 32:21said. I know. I didn't say it was. I'm
- 32:23saying it's crazy that just cuz my car
- 32:25was on camera that it was me.
- 32:28And my folks today was a million. Well,
- 32:30the way
- 32:31Sorry. The way that it lines up time
- 32:33wise
- 32:35um I'll tell you it doesn't look good.
- 32:39Not at all.
- 32:41Because we can account for your car
- 32:43minute by minute.
- 32:45Before the shooting, through the
- 32:47shooting, and after.
- 32:49So, that's that's what I'm trying to
- 32:51understand is is you had people in your
- 32:54car. I know that. Okay, I don't know why
- 32:56you were telling me
- 32:57>> brother Whitney, but I don't even
- 32:58remember which one.
- 32:59>> Who's You don't even remember which
- 33:01little brother?
- 33:01>> It's just how it went. Y'all got plenty
- 33:03little brothers and brothers only had
- 33:04hot in the car and took them to plenty
- 33:05parties.
- 33:06>> And then Myron was in the car.
- 33:08>> Myron Whitney.
- 33:09Myron met me in the bathroom right after
- 33:11the road back in there. Rode back.
- 33:13>> After the shooting?
- 33:15>> After Yeah, shooting happened. I didn't
- 33:17see the shooting. I just heard it.
- 33:19>> That's cuz you were part of it.
- 33:22>> You swear I was part of it, but I
- 33:23wasn't. Then I I'm telling you the
- 33:25street was empty. I didn't even get to
- 33:27see the party. You telling me you saw my
- 33:30car on the street of the party, but it
- 33:31wasn't.
- 33:32I was on the whole another street. The
- 33:33shooting happened up the hill.
- 33:36You see me stop my car and listen to the
- 33:38shots.
- 33:39>> Yeah, I see you stop your car, listen to
- 33:42the shots.
- 33:43And then whoever's in the front
- 33:45passenger seat
- 33:46leans out of the window, leans over the
- 33:48top of the car with an AR pistol
- 33:51and starts blasting rounds off. Okay?
- 33:55And there's a photo of you on your
- 33:57Instagram holding a Draco or one of your
- 33:59friends is holding a Draco. Do you own
- 34:01one?
- 34:01>> No.
- 34:02>> No?
- 34:02>> That was a probably a a music video.
- 34:05>> Okay, so it would be a prop.
- 34:09>> Whatever you want to call it. I know I
- 34:10ain't got no Draco. They searching my
- 34:12house right now. You ain't going to find
- 34:13nothing like that.
- 34:14>> Okay.
- 34:15>> And my car ain't going to be nothing
- 34:17like I didn't do nothing.
- 34:18>> So, in your car we won't find any shell
- 34:19casings or anything like that.
- 34:21>> No. Probably probably some live some
- 34:23live nine bullets.
- 34:25>> Okay.
- 34:26>> From my gun, but not anything from no
- 34:28ARP.
- 34:29>> Okay.
- 34:30>> It'll be crazy.
- 34:34You saying my story and everything. I
- 34:35see what you saying.
- 34:36>> I mean that
- 34:37>> The time frame, you right.
- 34:38>> I mean that's what looks bad, okay?
- 34:39>> Yeah, that that do look bad. I ain't
- 34:41going to lie. The time frame may be
- 34:42That's what I said the same thing. Soon
- 34:44as we turn out here these folks shoot.
- 34:46But what's so crazy happened on the
- 34:48whole another street. Like my alibi
- 34:51whatever it's supposed to be called is
- 34:52making sense. The shooting happened on
- 34:54the whole another street. And then if my
- 34:56little brother did hang out the window
- 34:58and shoot there wasn't nothing to shoot
- 35:00at. So he's [ __ ] The street was
- 35:02empty. If you look at somebody other
- 35:03than your camera you won't see no other
- 35:05cars on the street.
- 35:07>> Well, whoever hung out that window shot
- 35:08someone in the head. So
- 35:10they found something to shoot at.
- 35:12>> How would you shoot somebody in the head
- 35:13nobody was out there?
- 35:16>> That's what I'm trying to understand.
- 35:18>> The shooting happened at the party. The
- 35:20girls these females just told me.
- 35:23These girls just told me
- 35:25that that the shooting happened at the
- 35:27party. All these girls woke up telling
- 35:28me this morning.
- 35:30She said, "I don't know why they saying
- 35:31your name. I didn't even see your car."
- 35:33>> So would you just say that it just
- 35:35happens to be a bad coincidence that you
- 35:37were around the area at the time that
- 35:38you were?
- 35:39>> Yes, so let me know why I pulled up.
- 35:41That's so crazy.
- 35:44So I don't know why I went.
- 35:46I'm trying to know.
- 35:47You know how they used to say girl lied.
- 35:49So I'm calling her right now.
- 35:51For real.
- 35:52>> I mean you think someone was setting you
- 35:53up?
- 35:54>> Nah, I think it was a coincidence but
- 35:56like you said there ain't no way the
- 35:58party been going on all these hours and
- 35:59we turn
- 36:01shooting going on.
- 36:03But it's crazy.
- 36:04>> I would think the the likelihood of
- 36:09um
- 36:11just the totality of the circumstances
- 36:15is real real tough in my mind for it to
- 36:17just be a coincidence. That's that's the
- 36:19hard part for me to understand. Just
- 36:21because of the timeline, the timing of
- 36:23everything. I asked you where you went
- 36:25beforehand. You didn't tell me about
- 36:27Bethel. Now you're you're Okay, you'll
- 36:30tell me about Bethel.
- 36:31>> Well, I would have been still at Bethel
- 36:32all night.
- 36:33>> Oh, no, I'm not saying you stayed, but I
- 36:34I need to know exactly what you were
- 36:37doing the whole night because if I'm
- 36:39able to build a timeline and part of
- 36:42that timeline is able to be corroborated
- 36:44and I can say you weren't part of
- 36:46anything.
- 36:47You didn't do it. Then I can be like,
- 36:49"Okay, he's done. I'm going to start
- 36:51talking to other people."
- 36:53Because I don't want to have to sit here
- 36:54and keep talking to someone if they
- 36:55weren't part of it.
- 36:57Right?
- 36:57>> Right.
- 36:58>> But if you were part of it, I would
- 37:00expect you to be honest with me.
- 37:03And even if you didn't shoot, take
- 37:04responsibility
- 37:06and talk with me about it.
- 37:08Okay?
- 37:09If one of your friends was stupid and
- 37:11did something stupid, so be it.
- 37:14But you don't have to ride for him.
- 37:17>> You're right.
- 37:17>> Okay?
- 37:18Cuz I don't see any of your friends in
- 37:20here talking with me.
- 37:22I don't see any of them coming to your
- 37:24aid.
- 37:25No one's stepping up.
- 37:27>> You're right.
- 37:27>> You're the only one here talking with
- 37:29me.
- 37:30Okay?
- 37:31So, is there anything else you want to
- 37:32tell me and you want to be honest with
- 37:34me about?
- 37:35This That's going to be the hard part
- 37:37here.
- 37:38Honesty.
- 37:40>> I told you everything. I didn't see I
- 37:42didn't see nobody doing no [ __ ] out of
- 37:43my car. And if they did,
- 37:46it wasn't no Draco and rifles in my car.
- 37:49Only kind of gun that was in my that was
- 37:51in the car was
- 37:53a nine.
- 37:54And it was my nine.
- 37:55>> Could it have been an AR pistol nine?
- 37:57>> No, regular nine. Regular Glock nine.
- 38:00>> Okay.
- 38:01>> And then I put it
- 38:02then my gun I checked my gun when we
- 38:04left.
- 38:05If he shot Yeah, he shot it in the air
- 38:08one time. My gun
- 38:10I just loaded up my gun. My gun got
- 38:12every round in it.
- 38:13>> Where is your gun right now? Is it at
- 38:14your house?
- 38:15>> I'm trying to
- 38:17I think I think I left it with my little
- 38:18brother.
- 38:19>> You think you left it with your little
- 38:20brother?
- 38:20>> Yeah, cuz I tried to call him for him
- 38:22but I tried to run and I see where it
- 38:23was at. I didn't see it in the
- 38:24>> find it.
- 38:25>> Okay.
- 38:27Well, we'll probably end up getting that
- 38:28from him.
- 38:30And then we'll test fire it. And if it
- 38:33comes back matching any of the casings
- 38:35on the scene, I think you're going to
- 38:36have some more to explain.
- 38:39Okay?
- 38:40Because
- 38:42um we've already collected a couple
- 38:43guns.
- 38:45And all we have to do is compare those
- 38:47shell casings from those guns to the
- 38:49ones on the scene.
- 38:50And it's it's pretty simple.
- 38:53Huh?
- 38:54>> Collect the guns from who?
- 38:55>> Your friends, the houses, everywhere.
- 38:58>> Oh, they're not my
- 38:59folks. They got a lot of them in my
- 39:00apartment. I didn't know that happened
- 39:01since some females got them. So, they're
- 39:03not my friends. You know what I'm
- 39:05saying? They was up there shooting. I
- 39:07didn't I wasn't nowhere near the
- 39:09shooting.
- 39:10>> Where's your Where's your brother stay,
- 39:12the one that has your gun?
- 39:15>> Uh he got I don't know where he at right
- 39:17now.
- 39:18>> Bethel?
- 39:20>> I don't know. He probably out there. He
- 39:21hang out there. He don't really show
- 39:23nobody where he stay. If folks don't
- 39:25take care of him.
- 39:26>> What's his name?
- 39:27>> He go around the house to house.
- 39:34>> What's his name?
- 39:35>> Oh.
- 39:36I don't know. I just call him son.
- 39:38I don't even call him by his real name.
- 39:40They call him my little son.
- 39:42>> Any other nicknames?
- 39:51>> But he didn't shoot my gun. That's what
- 39:53I'm saying. He saying somebody let off
- 39:55shots from a ARP from my car.
- 39:58>> Mhm.
- 39:59>> I would have heard that. I would have
- 40:00heard a stick getting shot beside me.
- 40:03I definitely would have heard it. All I
- 40:05hear is shots from afar.
- 40:09And I'm pulling right over. That's what
- 40:10I'm saying. On the cameras, can you not
- 40:12hear the shots still going on?
- 40:14>> Oh yeah, no, I can hear them. And it's
- 40:16it's literally back and forth. I'll be
- 40:19honest with you, it's back and forth.
- 40:20>> You know what I'm saying? If it was
- 40:21going back and forth, we would have got
- 40:23hit. There's no shells, no nothing.
- 40:25>> Well, either y'all would have gotten hit
- 40:26or the other person is a horrible shot.
- 40:29>> He didn't Didn't nobody shoot. You know,
- 40:32he or she didn't shoot.
- 40:34I didn't get to see no I didn't see no
- 40:36shots. I only heard them.
- 40:38>> So, what are you saying there? He didn't
- 40:40>> No. I'm not saying
- 40:42>> Finish the sentence.
- 40:44>> I'll finish to say I didn't see he or
- 40:47she anybody shooting. I would have saw
- 40:49the shots. I don't saw plenty shootouts.
- 40:51You would have saw some fires, some
- 40:53shells, some anything. All you hear is
- 40:56gunshots. You don't hear no bullets in
- 40:58the ground or nothing.
- 40:59>> Yeah.
- 40:59>> I've been around shootouts.
- 41:02Like I know what is going on.
- 41:04I wasn't on the same street that the
- 41:06shooting happened, sir. That's the
- 41:07truth. Just
- 41:08>> I wish you'd be honest. That's the hard
- 41:10part.
- 41:11Well, no. Look, man, I've got a lot of
- 41:14training
- 41:16when it comes to
- 41:19just facial cues and the way people say
- 41:21things and how you're talking.
- 41:24Okay? One, I can tell you're nervous.
- 41:26That's fine because most people are.
- 41:29>> I'm nervous. I know all of it. Eye
- 41:30contact and all of it. It don't mean
- 41:32nothing.
- 41:33>> I know. It's not eye contact, man.
- 41:35>> Eye contact I'm talking about I'm
- 41:36>> What I want
- 41:37>> over.
- 41:38>> What I'm trying to tell you is I don't I
- 41:40don't care if you're hung over. That's
- 41:41fine. You can stare at the wall if you
- 41:42talk to me. That's fine.
- 41:43>> I'm [snorts] hung over.
- 41:44>> What I am telling you is is I do not
- 41:46believe what you're telling me.
- 41:49I have a hard time believing it because
- 41:50it just doesn't add up.
- 41:55And I want to give you one more chance
- 41:56to be completely honest with me about
- 41:58what happened last night because if
- 42:02he doesn't make it
- 42:05someone is looking at a murder charge,
- 42:07okay? And I need to understand what
- 42:09happened last night.
- 42:11If it wasn't you, it wasn't you.
- 42:14But if you were there
- 42:16and you saw something,
- 42:18I need to know.
- 42:21That's what's important here.
- 42:23Okay? This is so much more than just,
- 42:26you know, us sitting in a room and
- 42:28chit-chatting.
- 42:28>> Of course.
- 42:29>> Okay?
- 42:30Murder is a big thing.
- 42:31>> Yes, but I'm not.
- 42:33>> But it's it's serious and you know that.
- 42:35No, no, no, I know, okay?
- 42:37So, my thing is is
- 42:39I want to understand what actually
- 42:41happened last night, okay? You've told
- 42:43me some things that I I agree with and I
- 42:45can tell you, okay, yeah, that makes
- 42:47sense, okay?
- 42:49But there are some parts that don't make
- 42:50sense to me.
- 42:51So, can you clear that up for me?
- 42:55>> What What What parts you want me to
- 42:56clear?
- 42:57>> Why was someone hanging out of your car
- 42:59shooting, okay?
- 43:01That's what I want to understand.
- 43:03Was someone shooting at y'all
- 43:05beforehand?
- 43:06>> No.
- 43:07>> No?
- 43:08Then what happened?
- 43:10>> I don't know. I guess my little brother
- 43:13shot in the air.
- 43:15He shot one time. It wasn't no ARP in my
- 43:17car. It wasn't nothing in my car but my
- 43:20Glock 9.
- 43:21No ARP, no Draco, no none of that.
- 43:24All the thing was in my car was my
- 43:25Glock. My little brother don't got no
- 43:27gun.
- 43:28It's just me solo.
- 43:32But before any shots let off,
- 43:34I didn't get to see no party.
- 43:37>> Yeah.
- 43:37>> It wasn't no party. So, I'm saying I
- 43:39guess they already went to
- 43:41Athens Garner or whatever. I didn't
- 43:42really I didn't know that till we got
- 43:44back to Bethel Homes.
- 43:45They said after party thing.
- 43:47Whatever they call it.
- 43:49But I know they was talking about Athens
- 43:51Garner.
- 43:52>> I want to ask, if we go through the
- 43:53phone, is there anything on there that
- 43:55we're going to find that uh
- 43:57that might be interesting or
- 44:00>> No.
- 44:01>> No?
- 44:02>> They receive phone texts me about it and
- 44:03I'm telling them that's crazy. I ain't
- 44:05had nothing to do with it.
- 44:06>> Yeah.
- 44:07>> Telling them why they I'm telling my
- 44:09ex-girlfriend why you let that girl get
- 44:10on live and say my name about the
- 44:11shooting. Like this crazy.
- 44:14>> Wow.
- 44:14>> I didn't even get to see none of y'all.
- 44:16That's what I'm saying. The party was
- 44:17packed.
- 44:18I'm telling you. I got plenty females,
- 44:20sir.
- 44:21Everybody was at the party.
- 44:24That's how I knew
- 44:26where the party at. That's why I
- 44:27actually turned off. Soon as I turned,
- 44:30boom. Okay, I said you said that looked
- 44:32bad. We only been here 30 seconds. Now
- 44:34y'all already shooting.
- 44:36And I didn't even get to see no party,
- 44:37but you can hear the shells. Man, not
- 44:40the shells, you hear the shots from a
- 44:41whole another street. They going up the
- 44:43hill. All you hear is shots from up the
- 44:45hill.
- 44:46I'm I'm still down here by the field on
- 44:48the main not on the main road, but like
- 44:50I'm just neighborhood across from the
- 44:52field.
- 44:54Just stopped my car. Damn, little bro,
- 44:57you heard them shots?
- 45:01When none of my All I have is my Glock.
- 45:03Now they found my Glock. Now you will
- 45:04see. It haven't been shot. It's not
- 45:07missing no rounds.
- 45:11That's why I said if my little brother
- 45:13shot, he probably shot in one time.
- 45:14I got to the house, I was missing a
- 45:16bullet.
- 45:17But if he shot, he probably shot in the
- 45:19air. Just want to shoot a gun.
- 45:22>> Okay.
- 45:23>> He don't murder somebody. It wasn't
- 45:24nobody to shoot at, sir.
- 45:27That's the truth. The God and the truth.
- 45:30Didn't nobody shoot at us. There's not
- 45:31no bullet holes in my car.
- 45:33It wasn't no back and forth.
- 45:35Like that's the truth. Telling you
- 45:38nothing but the truth.
- 45:40I didn't even know nobody died or got
- 45:41shot.
- 45:43I didn't even know that till everybody
- 45:44wake up texting me about this girl
- 45:46alive.
- 45:49>> Okay.
- 45:57Okay.
- 45:58I'll just hang tight for a minute, okay?
- 46:01>> I'm cold. How long I got to sit in here?
- 46:04>> You cold?
- 46:05>> Yeah.
- 46:05>> Okay.
- 46:06Uh I'll see if I can try and turn the
- 46:08air up for you, okay?
- 46:09>> How long I got to sit in here?
- 46:10>> I I don't think too long, but I can't
- 46:13promise, okay?
- 46:14>> So, I'm going to go home or what?
- 46:16>> Um let me talk with them, but I mean
- 46:19right now you're just detained, okay?
- 46:26>> She is crazy, bro.
- 46:29Nobody hang out my window.
- 46:31I'm
- 46:33>> Just got a couple more questions, okay?
- 46:37So,
- 46:39your gun.
- 46:42Um where should it be now?
- 46:46Your 9 mm.
- 46:48>> Uh I went in the homes. You know, I
- 46:50looked for it the other night, man. I
- 46:52mean, yeah. You know, I just pulled up.
- 46:53I read my I'm looking for it. It's on
- 46:55the floor.
- 46:56>> Oh, really?
- 46:57We have you on video running out the
- 46:59back door and throwing it in a garbage
- 47:00can.
- 47:02Don't look at me like that, man.
- 47:03>> What?
- 47:04>> Yes.
- 47:05Don't look at me like that. Don't
- 47:07[ __ ] me anymore.
- 47:08Okay? I just watched it.
- 47:12We literally have drone footage.
- 47:14>> I I
- 47:14>> Okay?
- 47:15>> Okay, that's right.
- 47:15>> You ran out back and you threw it in the
- 47:17garbage can. They just found it.
- 47:19>> Okay, that's right. That I did.
- 47:21>> Okay, then why lie to me, man? You've
- 47:22been lying to me this whole time. Stop
- 47:24bullshitting me.
- 47:25>> Why?
- 47:26>> Don't No, look at me.
- 47:27Stop bullshitting me.
- 47:29>> Not bullshitting cuz I tried to hide my
- 47:30own
- 47:31cuz I tried to hide my cuz that's the
- 47:32only thing I was lying about.
- 47:34>> The only thing?
- 47:35>> Yeah, what are you talking about? I just
- 47:37told you the whole truth. I thought
- 47:38>> The whole truth on everything. You said
- 47:40no one was in your car, then you said
- 47:42your brother came, then you said your
- 47:44little brother was in your car.
- 47:45>> I said I was drunk. I don't know.
- 47:46>> Then you said you were drunk, then you
- 47:48said no one shot, then you said someone
- 47:50could have shot cuz one round's missing
- 47:52from your gun.
- 47:54>> Yeah, but I didn't I just keep saying I
- 47:55didn't hear nobody shooting my car.
- 47:58>> Okay.
- 47:58>> Hey, my Glock 9 shoot smooth, so I
- 48:01probably wouldn't heard it. And it's
- 48:03only one round missing. I had 24 rounds
- 48:06and I had 25.
- 48:07>> You're a horrible liar, dude.
- 48:09Shh, horrible.
- 48:11>> Dude, I can't stand the police. Why you
- 48:12want to I don't
- 48:13>> No, I want you to be honest with me.
- 48:15>> to me, dude. I'm starting to tell you
- 48:16the truth, you going to keep saying I'm
- 48:17lying. That's going to piss me off, bro.
- 48:20>> Okay. Then look.
- 48:21>> the truth.
- 48:23Bro, you going to keep thinking if you
- 48:24Stop talking to me, you think that I'm
- 48:26telling you a lie, dude. But that's
- 48:27going to blow up.
- 48:28>> You've already lied to me a couple
- 48:29times, so what am I supposed to think?
- 48:31Think about that.
- 48:33If I were to lie to you a couple times,
- 48:35how are you going to believe me?
- 48:36Right?
- 48:37>> I lied to you about one thing, the gun.
- 48:40I was drunk. I'm still hungover. I
- 48:42forgot my little brother was in the car.
- 48:43Wasn't no ARP in the car. We wasn't on
- 48:46the same street that the shooting
- 48:47happened.
- 48:48>> No, you weren't.
- 48:49Because y'all were shooting across the
- 48:51street at each other.
- 48:52>> Across the street? Dude, I was in the
- 48:54middle of the road. The shooting
- 48:56happened up the hill.
- 48:57>> Yeah, they were shooting at you and you
- 48:59were shooting at them.
- 49:01>> At who? There was no more people on the
- 49:03street with us, dude. Like, what is
- 49:05wrong with you? I keep telling you the
- 49:07street was empty. The street was empty.
- 49:10No one was on the street with us. We
- 49:12didn't get to see the party. The party
- 49:14had half of Adams in it. We would have
- 49:16saw the party. It was no party.
- 49:19>> It's cuz everyone was inside of the
- 49:20house.
- 49:21>> We would have saw cars, music. Everybody
- 49:24was going to Adams and going. It was
- 49:25over with. I didn't even go where the
- 49:27party was. I turned on a whole 'nother
- 49:30street. The shooting happened on the top
- 49:31of the hill. I see it's a hill and a
- 49:33turn. I went to the turn. The shooting
- 49:35happened up there.
- 49:37Like, what like
- 49:39He's a tip of like crazy, bro.
- 49:42Shh, you need to question the folk that
- 49:44was at the party shooting. I've already
- 49:46interviewed all of them, man.
- 49:47Good. This is crazy. I'm
- 49:50I'm innocent.
- 49:51And I'mma stand on it. That's the truth.
- 49:53I'm innocent.
- 49:54I didn't kill nobody. Nobody My little
- 49:57brother definitely should nobody. They
- 49:59got my gun.
- 50:01I said I had 25 rounds in it.
- 50:02>> Okay. So, what we'll do is we'll shoot
- 50:05your gun and we'll test it and we'll
- 50:06compare it to the showcase ins on the
- 50:08scene, okay?
- 50:08>> Okay, we compare it.
- 50:10>> Okay.
- 50:11And if they match,
- 50:14are you going to
- 50:15what are you going to say?
- 50:16>> It's crazy.
- 50:17>> It's crazy cuz it shouldn't?
- 50:19>> Yes. I mean, it probably can't cuz it's
- 50:21a nine. Everybody has a nine. What How
- 50:23you doing?
- 50:23>> No, it's not that simple. There When
- 50:27your gun shoots, okay?
- 50:30A firing pin
- 50:32hits the uh
- 50:33the primer on the round, okay? And it
- 50:36creates a special shape and a design,
- 50:39okay? Each gun is specific.
- 50:42Okay? [clears throat] It's unique.
- 50:43>> Okay.
- 50:45Well, you would know it ain't mine then.
- 50:49This is crazy. Didn't shoot at nobody.
- 50:52Didn't even get to see the party. Like,
- 50:54I don't know why they
- 50:54>> Well, I mean, were you Okay.
- 50:56>> So,
- 50:57>> I'm not trying to piss you off, okay?
- 51:00If you didn't shoot anybody,
- 51:03then did someone in your car shoot at
- 51:04someone and you were just the driver?
- 51:06>> No. My little brother
- 51:09My little brother didn't even touch my
- 51:10gun. And if he did, he probably not
- 51:13would listen to the shots.
- 51:14>> But one round's missing.
- 51:15>> That's it. One round?
- 51:17He could have shot it. He could have
- 51:19shot in the air. Anytime. I don't know
- 51:21when he shot it. I would leave him in
- 51:22the car by himself all the time. He
- 51:24probably didn't even shoot.
- 51:25>> How old is he?
- 51:27>> He's young, like 14, 15.
- 51:29>> So, you just leave a gun around a
- 51:3014-year-old?
- 51:32>> Bro, he know how to operate a gun. He
- 51:34not going to grab it and pull it and
- 51:36shoot in the head. If he don't know how
- 51:38to operate it, then he ain't going to
- 51:39touch it. He not [ __ ]
- 51:42Like, this is crazy. It's not no ARP.
- 51:45Not none of that.
- 51:47Like, this crazy when I'm innocent.
- 51:50I'm innocent. Like this is crazy. I
- 51:53didn't kill nobody. Nobody I was with
- 51:55killed nobody last night. Especially not
- 51:57this little boy.
- 51:58>> Right now someone has been shot. They're
- 51:59not dead.
- 52:00>> Oh, why didn't shoot nobody last night?
- 52:03If he ain't get shot by no nine bullet
- 52:06then ain't no way.
- 52:08And I And I doubt my little my little
- 52:10brother I doubt my little brother
- 52:12shooting in the air is going to fall and
- 52:13hit this man in the head. So I know it
- 52:15wasn't my little brother and I
- 52:16[clears throat] know I didn't shoot.
- 52:19Now I know I'm innocent.
- 52:20>> So you weren't wearing black pants last
- 52:22night. What color pants were you
- 52:23wearing?
- 52:24>> I was wearing some blue and black jeans.
- 52:27>> You were wearing a blue shirt. I know
- 52:29that, okay? Cuz I've seen your Instagram
- 52:31story.
- 52:32>> Okay.
- 52:33>> Okay.
- 52:34>> A blue and white shirt.
- 52:35>> But were you wearing red pants?
- 52:37>> No.
- 52:37>> No?
- 52:38>> No.
- 52:39>> Okay.
- 52:39>> I wasn't wearing red.
- 52:40>> Whose red pants are those that were in
- 52:42your in your house? At the end of your
- 52:44bed.
- 52:45>> Uh probably mine, but that ain't what I
- 52:48That ain't what I had on last night. I
- 52:49had on them blue jeans in the dirty
- 52:50clothes and that blue shirt. They're
- 52:52sitting on top of dirty clothes.
- 52:55>> Okay.
- 52:57Someone exits your car and they're
- 52:59wearing red pants.
- 53:01So was it your brother?
- 53:03>> My little brother didn't hop out the
- 53:05car. He just opened his door.
- 53:06>> No, no, I'm saying at Bethel.
- 53:08>> Oh.
- 53:09>> When y'all got out at Bethel, someone
- 53:11was wearing red pants.
- 53:13>> I don't know who was in the trunk. I
- 53:14don't remember who I had in the back. I
- 53:15just remember my little brother in the
- 53:16front with me. I was driving I don't
- 53:18remember who I had in the back.
- 53:19>> So you
- 53:20driving around trunk?
- 53:22>> I'm driving right down the street.
- 53:23George she just sent me the location six
- 53:25minutes away. I'm going to go see what
- 53:27he's talking about.
- 53:28I didn't even get to see.
- 53:30Soon as I turned Soon as I turned past
- 53:33the field and turned right, I'm hearing
- 53:35gunshots.
- 53:37The thing ain't tell the map is telling
- 53:38me to make a U-turn. I'm supposed to go
- 53:40up the hill. That's where the party at
- 53:41up the hill. I ain't even get to see the
- 53:43house. I don't even know where the party
- 53:45was.
- 53:46So, I'm telling you so this is the
- 53:47truth. So, I ain't telling you the
- 53:49truth.
- 53:55>> I don't believe it.
- 53:58>> I won't believe it either.
- 53:59>> I mean it's
- 54:00>> I won't believe it either, especially
- 54:02>> I mean if I told you this story, would
- 54:03you believe it? Like
- 54:06>> I don't
- 54:06>> Like you would just hear it.
- 54:07>> I can't think like a detective. This is
- 54:09our job.
- 54:09>> Well, no, no. You don't have to think
- 54:10like a detective. Think like a
- 54:11reasonable person. If I told you this
- 54:13story and told you everything you've
- 54:15told me, would you believe me?
- 54:20>> I would, but you know, we two different
- 54:22people.
- 54:24I lied to you about how my gun
- 54:26and me forgetting who was all in the
- 54:28car.
- 54:29It's all I lied to you.
- 54:30>> And if if your gun have been fired, cuz
- 54:33you said one round is missing.
- 54:35>> Yes, I didn't see him shoot my gun.
- 54:36>> And then when I asked you what you did
- 54:38earlier in the night, you never
- 54:39mentioned Bethel until I pointed out to
- 54:41you.
- 54:43>> Cuz I didn't sit in the Bethel for long.
- 54:44Myron came got me from the Bethel.
- 54:46That's it.
- 54:47I didn't stay in the Bethel long.
- 54:49>> And you're saying you saw a white Honda,
- 54:50right?
- 54:51>> I saw multiple of them.
- 54:53>> But I'm saying when you got near the
- 54:54party, you saw a white Honda.
- 54:56>> Yeah, going up the hill.
- 54:57>> Going the opposite direction, away from
- 54:59you.
- 55:00>> Yes, they was already up the hill. I
- 55:02didn't get to see them. I didn't get to
- 55:03see who driving the car. Now, I'm
- 55:04watching I'm looking at their tag. They
- 55:06going up. I'm turning right.
- 55:08Soon as I turn right and go down
- 55:10probably like half a mile, mile,
- 55:12gunshots.
- 55:16When nobody shooting at us, we weren't
- 55:17shooting at nobody. You talking about we
- 55:19shooting at each other. Car destroyed.
- 55:20Wasn't no rounds fired at me.
- 55:22>> Uh your car shot first. I know that.
- 55:25>> And who? There was nobody to shoot at.
- 55:27>> At the other white Honda.
- 55:30I mean
- 55:31it's it's on video.
- 55:32>> So, you have us on video shooting at the
- 55:34white Honda.
- 55:34>> Yes.
- 55:35>> You see the other white Honda.
- 55:36>> Yes.
- 55:37I like I
- 55:39I don't even know why I'd come in here
- 55:40and [ __ ] you on this, man. I'm being
- 55:42completely honest with you.
- 55:45That's the thing.
- 55:47And all I had wanted and all I had
- 55:49expected was honesty.
- 55:51Okay, so that's fine.
- 55:56>> I'm sorry to tell you that nobody on the
- 55:58street with us, but
- 56:00>> Hm?
- 56:01>> We was on the road by ourself.
- 56:04The road was empty.
- 56:07The problem was going on on another
- 56:08street.
- 56:11This crazy. I don't know how it not make
- 56:13sense.
- 56:14That part right there I'm not lying
- 56:15about. The only thing that could
- 56:17probably look crazy is the time.
- 56:20That's all I'll be asking. If I was a
- 56:21detective
- 56:22>> So, when I find your brother and I
- 56:24interview him, is he going to tell me
- 56:25the same story?
- 56:27>> Yeah, he probably going to be scared to
- 56:29tell you that he shot in the air. He
- 56:31probably won't say that.
- 56:32If he did shoot in the air, I don't
- 56:34remember how we drove
- 56:35>> I don't believe that he shot in the air.
- 56:37Um, when I interview Myron, is he going
- 56:38to tell me the same thing?
- 56:40>> We was gambling on the game, yeah.
- 56:42>> What y'all were doing that night,
- 56:43hanging out, everything?
- 56:45>> We weren't hanging out. He just
- 56:47playing me in 2K. I left his house. I
- 56:50told him to come get me from the Bethel.
- 56:51We went and saw some girl.
- 56:53>> First time I talked to you, you said you
- 56:54were hanging out with him.
- 56:56>> Yeah, I just said
- 56:56>> At College Station.
- 56:58>> Yeah, so we gambling on the game. I left
- 57:00his house by myself.
- 57:02Went to the Bethel. He came and got me.
- 57:05What do you mean? I'm not going to
- 57:07change my story that I told you.
- 57:11This is crazy.
- 57:17>> You said you got home around 1:00 or
- 57:182:00 and that you would hung out with
- 57:21Myron somewhere off of College Station
- 57:23playing 2K and gambling.
- 57:26That's what you first told me. And then
- 57:28when I told you about Bethel, your story
- 57:30I
- 57:31>> No, it didn't.
- 57:32I told you said you saw another car pull
- 57:35up out there. You said you saw me put my
- 57:37stuff in another car. I said, "Yeah,
- 57:39Myron came and got me."
- 57:42>> I didn't ever change.
- 57:43>> That was after the shooting when Myron
- 57:45came and got you.
- 57:46>> Yeah, why you keep saying after the
- 57:48shooting like we just did the shooting
- 57:50like this is
- 57:51>> I'm not saying that. I'm not saying
- 57:53that. What I'm saying is a shooting
- 57:55happened at a certain time. So, that's
- 57:58how I am I'm phrasing it. It happened at
- 58:02a certain time. So, what you were doing
- 58:04after that time period, okay?
- 58:08So, that's what I'm saying.
- 58:16Is there a reason that your car has a
- 58:18bullet hole in it?
- 58:20>> A bullet hole in
- 58:21>> Mhm.
- 58:22>> I just I just looked at my car the other
- 58:25night and this morning I didn't see no
- 58:26bullet hole.
- 58:27>> Were you looking real close?
- 58:29>> I looked at my whole car and I didn't
- 58:31see no bullet hole.
- 58:32>> Okay.
- 58:33>> Is there a bullet hole in my car?
- 58:34>> Yeah, uh from what I understand.
- 58:36>> Where?
- 58:38>> Um I They've got to tell me, but someone
- 58:40told me that they thought they saw a
- 58:42bullet hole on your car.
- 58:43Okay?
- 58:44>> Get in my car.
- 58:45>> And the the um
- 58:48the other white Honda
- 58:50has a couple bullet holes in it. So,
- 58:52we're going to pull the projectiles to
- 58:53it and we'll see if it compares to your
- 58:55gun.
- 58:57>> Okay.
- 58:59My gun
- 59:01only missing one round.
- 59:04>> Well, was there someone else in your car
- 59:05shooting another gun that would have
- 59:07>> That was only gun in my car was mine.
- 59:10That's what I'm telling you.
- 59:10>> Did your brother happen to have a gun of
- 59:12his own?
- 59:12>> No, that's why I said he had my gun.
- 59:14[snorts]
- 59:14>> Was there a third person in the car?
- 59:17Cuz I see three people get out at
- 59:19Bethel.
- 59:19>> I said I don't I don't remember who was
- 59:21behind me.
- 59:24I would try. Everybody out there wanted
- 59:27to run. I don't know who done y'all did
- 59:29proud of.
- 59:30>> Do you know a person by the name of
- 59:31Jayden Appling?
- 59:34>> Ain't that
- 59:35You talking about Jay? Yeah.
- 59:37>> Yeah.
- 59:38>> Yeah.
- 59:39>> Yeah. He lives just a couple doors down
- 59:41from you, right?
- 59:42>> Yeah, you talking about Jay.
- 59:43>> Y'all close?
- 59:44>> We ain't close, but we cool. We smoking
- 59:47and stuff.
- 59:47>> Yeah. Where y'all hanging out last
- 59:49night?
- 59:50>> No. I think I saw him last night in the
- 59:53in the in the back of the bed.
- 59:55>> But he didn't ride around with you?
- 59:57>> No, he won't eat.
- 59:58We were talking in the hood, smoking in
- 1:00:00the back of smoking.
- 1:00:02He didn't even call you.
- 1:00:11I don't know why I rolled up there. Just
- 1:00:13for me riding up there got me in all
- 1:00:15this this is crazy.
- 1:00:17Huh?
- 1:01:06She looking at my car sitting around and
- 1:01:07[ __ ]
- 1:01:08I got picked up.
- 1:01:11This is crazy.
- 1:01:19Damn, I didn't even get to see the car.
- 1:01:25>> Is there anything else you want to tell
- 1:01:26me?
- 1:01:27>> [clears throat]
- 1:01:29>> No, sir.
- 1:01:30>> Okay.
- 1:01:38>> So, am I being charged anything? Am I
- 1:01:40being charged like that?
- 1:01:42>> Well, no. I
- 1:01:43I don't think you're going to be charged
- 1:01:44for the gun or anything.
- 1:01:46>> Man, it's clean. My stepsister bought
- 1:01:48it, though.
- 1:01:49>> Your stepsister bought it for you?
- 1:01:50>> Yeah, say her name. It's not reported.
- 1:01:52It's not stolen or anything.
- 1:01:54>> Okay.
- 1:01:55>> [snorts]
- 1:01:56>> Um
- 1:01:58Well, yeah, if it comes back clean and
- 1:01:59everything and it doesn't it's not
- 1:02:01involved at all,
- 1:02:02um
- 1:02:04after, you know, all this, we'll be able
- 1:02:06to get it back to you. Okay?
- 1:02:09Uh it's just got to be test-fired and
- 1:02:11it's got to have uh
- 1:02:13um basically, it's got to be run to see
- 1:02:15who purchased it. Okay?
- 1:02:19But,
- 1:02:20>> [sighs]
- 1:02:21>> um
- 1:02:23let me step out and see see what else we
- 1:02:26need to do, okay?
- 1:02:28I appreciate you talking with me.
- 1:02:30>> I know.
- 1:02:30>> Okay.
- 1:02:42>> They crazy.
- 1:02:49See what she want back. What?
- 1:02:56Swear we was on the car that street.
- 1:03:00I should have asked for it, but I don't
- 1:03:02need no bullet holes in my car.
- 1:03:15J-two pop on me while I was working in
- 1:03:17the mall. See what he do.
- 1:03:19My boy was helmet
- 1:03:21broke my ass up.
- 1:03:23That didn't make no sense.
- 1:03:55>> Good evening.
- 1:03:56>> Mhm.
- 1:03:58>> Say something, right? [snorts]
- 1:03:59>> Mhm.
- 1:04:00>> Do you remember me?
- 1:04:01>> Uh
- 1:04:02yeah.
- 1:04:03>> Uh
- 1:04:04I'm Sergeant Black.
- 1:04:06>> [snorts]
- 1:04:06>> Excuse me, I'm pretty pretty tired at
- 1:04:08this point. Thinking about like like 36
- 1:04:10or 37 hours.
- 1:04:12Um so here's the deal.
- 1:04:14You are on camera. I don't know if you
- 1:04:16knew that or not. It's their Airbnb, so
- 1:04:17they have cameras all over the place.
- 1:04:19Um
- 1:04:21need you to be honest.
- 1:04:22At this point I'll
- 1:04:24I'll be honest with you. That's really
- 1:04:25the only thing you got left is at least
- 1:04:28being honest about what happened.
- 1:04:30If dude shot at you guys and you guys
- 1:04:33shot back, I get it. That's fine. But
- 1:04:36there's only one time where you get to
- 1:04:37tell your version of events and that's
- 1:04:39here and now.
- 1:04:40After today,
- 1:04:42you really you don't get the option
- 1:04:43because at that point it's going to come
- 1:04:45off as you're just making [ __ ] up to try
- 1:04:47to cover your ass.
- 1:04:48So here's the reality.
- 1:04:50I know you're shooting.
- 1:04:52Okay? The handgun that you tossed in the
- 1:04:54garbage, which was being recorded by a
- 1:04:56drone. I don't know if you if you're
- 1:04:58made aware of that. So we've been
- 1:05:01watching your house all morning.
- 1:05:03Um
- 1:05:05your car is pretty unique thanks to the
- 1:05:08little fuzzy dice or whatever those
- 1:05:10things are. Stands out.
- 1:05:12Um
- 1:05:13not every car's got that.
- 1:05:15So, um those are the facts.
- 1:05:18You're on camera.
- 1:05:20There's several shell casings there.
- 1:05:22There are shell casings that I think
- 1:05:24once we test them, we're going to come
- 1:05:25back to that gun that you threw in the
- 1:05:27garbage. And I think you know that, too.
- 1:05:29Um
- 1:05:31I don't know that your bullet is the one
- 1:05:34that necessarily I'm going to say killed
- 1:05:36that guy. I don't know if he's alive or
- 1:05:38not yet, but I know the wound is not
- 1:05:39survivable.
- 1:05:41So, ultimately he will die if he's not
- 1:05:44dead already.
- 1:05:45So, we're looking at you know, murder
- 1:05:47charge. And so, at this point it's all
- 1:05:50about, you know, how do you mitigate
- 1:05:51that, right? You know, how how do I tell
- 1:05:53my story about what happened?
- 1:05:57To kind of justify what the hell
- 1:05:59happened, cuz I'm sure you didn't go
- 1:06:00over there with the intent to like,
- 1:06:01"Hey, I'm going to go murder somebody,"
- 1:06:03right?
- 1:06:04Um
- 1:06:05So,
- 1:06:06but I mean I'm going to tell you
- 1:06:09coming in here and and telling the story
- 1:06:11of
- 1:06:12um yeah, I was over there, there was
- 1:06:15some shooting, but it wasn't me.
- 1:06:17Um
- 1:06:19and trying to distance yourself from it,
- 1:06:20which is let's be honest, what you're
- 1:06:22trying to do, right? Trying to distance
- 1:06:23yourself.
- 1:06:24>> Yeah, because this zoom had no one
- 1:06:26holding out the street. That all
- 1:06:27>> Well, there's two streets, right?
- 1:06:28There's shooting here and there's
- 1:06:29shooting here. There's there's
- 1:06:31a particular part of the shooting that
- 1:06:33occurs in your car.
- 1:06:35There's one guy with an AK, basically
- 1:06:38Draco or whatever, and another guy who's
- 1:06:40got a little
- 1:06:41uh AR that looks like it's just got the
- 1:06:44uh
- 1:06:45the uh buffer tube sticking out the
- 1:06:47back. And he's like sitting on your
- 1:06:49window, leaning out, shooting.
- 1:06:51All right, that's
- 1:06:53that's what it looked like at least.
- 1:06:54Either that or else he got out and he's
- 1:06:55tall and and you can see, but it looked
- 1:06:57like he was sitting under shooting.
- 1:06:59Um and then there's your car door that
- 1:07:01comes open.
- 1:07:03And presumably that's you that gets out
- 1:07:06who's got the pistol. And there's
- 1:07:08shell casings all over the place that
- 1:07:10are going to be able to be tested to
- 1:07:12say, "Hey, this shell casing came from
- 1:07:14this gun."
- 1:07:15All right?
- 1:07:15>> Mhm.
- 1:07:16>> What are you going to say when the shell
- 1:07:18casings at the scene match to the gun
- 1:07:21you threw in the garbage?
- 1:07:23>> They not because my gun only missing one
- 1:07:26round. My gun only went off one time.
- 1:07:29>> Did it go off at the scene?
- 1:07:32>> Uh yeah.
- 1:07:33>> Okay, so you just admitted
- 1:07:35>> But not at no other
- 1:07:36>> discharged a gun at that scene.
- 1:07:39>> But not at nobody.
- 1:07:40>> Okay.
- 1:07:40>> With nobody on the street.
- 1:07:42>> tell me then who discharged the rifle
- 1:07:44rounds
- 1:07:46from your car.
- 1:07:47>> I I can't say.
- 1:07:48>> And don't And don't tell me you don't
- 1:07:49know who was in your car. That doesn't
- 1:07:51work. We're not in third year olds.
- 1:07:54We're not in fifth grade.
- 1:07:56That's not reasonable.
- 1:07:59I'm not stupid and you're not stupid.
- 1:08:01>> Mhm.
- 1:08:01>> Okay? It's not reasonable to say
- 1:08:04that I was in this car with these guys.
- 1:08:06We lit up this over over get this group
- 1:08:10and we killed this one guy and then we
- 1:08:12all left the scene together and we went
- 1:08:14back to Bethel and everything else.
- 1:08:17Um
- 1:08:18it's not reasonable to say you don't
- 1:08:20know who that was.
- 1:08:21>> I was drunk. I just told I just I was
- 1:08:23one in the party before we left.
- 1:08:24>> Okay, I don't care how drunk you were.
- 1:08:27If you remember that you shot and you
- 1:08:28remember the shooting, you know who's in
- 1:08:30your car.
- 1:08:32That's a [ __ ] statement. You and I
- 1:08:34both know that.
- 1:08:37Now, I know this sucks.
- 1:08:39There There's no ifs, ands, or buts
- 1:08:41about it. This sucks.
- 1:08:44And I know this is hard
- 1:08:46because you didn't expect any of this,
- 1:08:48I'm sure.
- 1:08:49I'm just going to tell you.
- 1:08:53You have kids?
- 1:08:55You ever babysit them?
- 1:08:56>> Mhm.
- 1:08:57>> All right? So, you've watched young
- 1:08:58kids, right?
- 1:09:00Okay? You ever catch them doing
- 1:09:01something wrong?
- 1:09:02>> Mhm.
- 1:09:03>> Okay.
- 1:09:04When you ask them about it, cuz you
- 1:09:05confront them, right? You go, "Hey, why
- 1:09:07are you doing that?"
- 1:09:08When you confront them
- 1:09:10and they look at you and they say, "I
- 1:09:12didn't do that."
- 1:09:14Do you handle that differently versus
- 1:09:17when they look at you and say, "I'm
- 1:09:18sorry, I did it."
- 1:09:21>> Yeah.
- 1:09:22>> Yeah. Well, that philosophy is part of
- 1:09:25human nature.
- 1:09:27And that philosophy uh exists in all
- 1:09:30things.
- 1:09:32You are at this point the child who's
- 1:09:34got caught.
- 1:09:36Not to say your child, but for um
- 1:09:38the description or the example, you are
- 1:09:41basically the child who's gotten caught.
- 1:09:43And we are sitting here in a room asking
- 1:09:45you to kind of explain what happened and
- 1:09:47you are sitting here saying, "I didn't
- 1:09:50do nothing."
- 1:09:52And you and I both know that it's
- 1:09:54untrue.
- 1:09:56And unfortunately,
- 1:09:57that will absolutely cause you problems.
- 1:10:00Cuz that's just the reality of life.
- 1:10:04Um
- 1:10:06I'm just going to tell you, it is, like
- 1:10:08I said, it's on video. I'm sure the
- 1:10:10other detectives told you that already,
- 1:10:12right? It's on video.
- 1:10:14That's
- 1:10:16unequivocal fact.
- 1:10:18Okay? So, it's not a question of did you
- 1:10:22shoot, how many times did you shoot,
- 1:10:23things like that, right? It's not a
- 1:10:25question of were you driving a car, were
- 1:10:27you there,
- 1:10:28did you go there and immediately become
- 1:10:30engaged in a gunfight. Um
- 1:10:33it's a question as to why. And it's a
- 1:10:35question as to who all was there as
- 1:10:37well, so that they can offer some
- 1:10:39justification as well. Um because
- 1:10:42someone lost their life. Or at least is
- 1:10:44going to.
- 1:10:47>> Mhm.
- 1:10:48>> So, I mean, it's serious.
- 1:10:51So, I'm going to ask you again cuz I'm
- 1:10:52going to tell you I do not believe you
- 1:10:54when you tell me when don't know who was
- 1:10:55in the car. I think that's a lie. That's
- 1:10:57not reasonable. And I'm going to tell
- 1:10:59you, if it doesn't make sense, it's
- 1:11:01because it didn't happen.
- 1:11:03Fact of life.
- 1:11:05Who were the other two people in the car
- 1:11:07with you, or more?
- 1:11:10>> I just remember my little brother being
- 1:11:12in the front. He didn't have no gun. I
- 1:11:13don't know
- 1:11:15who y'all was seeing out of getting out
- 1:11:16of my car rifles. I remember I would
- 1:11:18have remembered folks shooting rifles.
- 1:11:20>> Well, who'd you go over there with?
- 1:11:22>> It was just me and I just remember me
- 1:11:23and my little brother. I was drunk.
- 1:11:24Everybody in the best of one of the
- 1:11:26country park. So, folks just piling up
- 1:11:28in my backseat. As [clears throat] soon
- 1:11:30as we passed the little practice Georgia
- 1:11:32field and turned right,
- 1:11:34I see the white Honda going up the hill.
- 1:11:36Now, you hear the shots.
- 1:11:38Shots. You hear a whole bunch of shots.
- 1:11:42And this And I drove back on Milledge.
- 1:11:45Didn't nobody shooting no rifle out of
- 1:11:46my car.
- 1:11:47>> Yes, they did.
- 1:11:49>> It was plenty white Hondas out there. I
- 1:11:51don't know why y'all was
- 1:11:52>> Let me show you a picture. Hold on. I'll
- 1:11:53show you a picture.
- 1:11:54I got my screenshot. You can actually
- 1:11:56see the buffer tube and everything
- 1:11:59right there. You want to see it?
- 1:12:01>> Mhm.
- 1:12:05>> If I show it to you, you're going to
- 1:12:05tell me the truth?
- 1:12:06>> Yeah.
- 1:12:08>> The actual truth, like who was in the
- 1:12:09car.
- 1:12:10>> I've been telling you the truth.
- 1:12:12>> No, you're telling me the version that
- 1:12:15you think is just enough
- 1:12:17to maybe help you out. I'm going to tell
- 1:12:20you, unfortunately,
- 1:12:22the only thing that helps you out at
- 1:12:23this point. And And this is just
- 1:12:25reality. Only thing that helps you
- 1:12:28at this point
- 1:12:29is complete and utter hon- honesty.
- 1:12:32That's the only thing.
- 1:12:33You are the person caught doing
- 1:12:35something wrong. The question now is
- 1:12:37whether or not you're going to
- 1:12:39take responsibility
- 1:12:41and say, "I [ __ ] up."
- 1:12:44I did. And this is the people that were
- 1:12:46with me. And this is what happened. And
- 1:12:50I'm sorry.
- 1:12:52That's it. That's That's what you've got
- 1:12:54left to try to mitigate some factors
- 1:12:56here because here's the reality.
- 1:12:58You're going to get charged.
- 1:13:00There's no way around that.
- 1:13:03You were in the car. You admitted that
- 1:13:05you fired a round. That round's going to
- 1:13:07come back to that gun that got dumped.
- 1:13:09Someone has lost their life.
- 1:13:11>> Right.
- 1:13:11>> I can show that you were involved in
- 1:13:13gunfire. I can show that you stopped
- 1:13:15your car. You opened your door. You got
- 1:13:18out. You fired a round.
- 1:13:23According to the crown crown, doesn't
- 1:13:25matter who shot him in the back.
- 1:13:38This is rudimentary enhancement. Once we
- 1:13:40really send it off to the FBI, it's
- 1:13:42going to look great. Do you see that?
- 1:13:44>> What?
- 1:13:45>> Do you see the AR-15 right there?
- 1:13:46>> Yeah.
- 1:13:47>> Buffer tube?
- 1:13:48>> Yeah.
- 1:13:48>> Guy standing there? Now, if you're
- 1:13:50saying your brother was was the one in
- 1:13:52the front, uh that guy's from the front
- 1:13:54passenger seat there.
- 1:13:56So, your brother He's the shooter?
- 1:13:58>> That's not my car.
- 1:13:59>> That is your car.
- 1:14:01>> I ain't even out on it. Where my dice
- 1:14:03at?
- 1:14:04>> Your dice are picked up on other videos
- 1:14:07where you're driving all over town.
- 1:14:09>> You can't even see my face in this
- 1:14:11picture. This not my car.
- 1:14:13>> Dude, this is not the only picture. This
- 1:14:15is a still shot zoomed in from video.
- 1:14:20How do you think we found you?
- 1:14:23Do you think we just randomly decided,
- 1:14:25"Hey, that guy's got a white Honda.
- 1:14:28Let's go over there."
- 1:14:29>> So, you mean because I soon as I turned
- 1:14:32over
- 1:14:32>> Why are you looking over here? I'm not
- 1:14:33having a conversation over here. We're
- 1:14:34having a conversation.
- 1:14:36Okay, when you look over here, what
- 1:14:37you're doing is trying to convince
- 1:14:39yourself since we're in
- 1:14:40>> Hey, you did that last time you
- 1:14:41interrogated me, man. I just eye contact
- 1:14:44don't mean nothing.
- 1:14:44>> Eye Eye means a lot.
- 1:14:46>> No, wait. No, that's that old police
- 1:14:48trick stuff. My baby mama told me
- 1:14:50>> Well, if you haven't noticed, I'm old as
- 1:14:52[ __ ]
- 1:14:52>> I know. So, you think eye contact mean
- 1:14:55I don't have to really say anything how
- 1:14:56I am. I don't look my mom in the face
- 1:14:58when we talk. You know what I mean
- 1:14:59everything I say? That's not even my
- 1:15:01car. That's probably the other white car
- 1:15:03on the right what? Y'all so
- 1:15:06>> This is absolutely your car.
- 1:15:09And I'm going to tell you
- 1:15:11your shell casings are right over here
- 1:15:14with that car.
- 1:15:16>> You saying my shell case my gun is only
- 1:15:18missing one round.
- 1:15:19>> Doesn't matter.
- 1:15:21Doesn't matter if you fired 50 rounds,
- 1:15:23if you fired two rounds, three rounds,
- 1:15:26one round, you
- 1:15:29fired.
- 1:15:31That gives me the ability to link your
- 1:15:34gun
- 1:15:35to that area. I bet when I run your
- 1:15:37phone records, I'll be able to plot your
- 1:15:39course
- 1:15:40all through town. Match right on up.
- 1:15:44>> I just said I never even ride past it,
- 1:15:46but the shooting happened on the whole
- 1:15:48another street.
- 1:15:49>> Dude, you're looking at a picture of
- 1:15:50someone firing an AR-15 out of your car
- 1:15:52and you're still lying to me. You are
- 1:15:54quintessentially the kid look at me in
- 1:15:56the face after he's got caught doing
- 1:15:58something wrong saying, "Didn't do it.
- 1:16:00Wasn't me."
- 1:16:02It's a lie.
- 1:16:03>> It was plenty white Hondas just like
- 1:16:05mine out there. You don't even see my
- 1:16:06dice in the picture.
- 1:16:08>> So, you're going to hold on to one clip
- 1:16:10where you can't see your dice in that
- 1:16:12particular clip, right? And that's what
- 1:16:15you're going to hold on to?
- 1:16:16>> I'm not holding on to nothing. Y'all
- 1:16:18just trying to be so fictitious to me.
- 1:16:20It wasn't me. It wasn't nobody I was in
- 1:16:22the car with.
- 1:16:24>> Okay, who were you in car with? If
- 1:16:25they're all innocent, who were who was
- 1:16:27there?
- 1:16:28>> I just remember my little brother. I'm
- 1:16:30still hung over right now. I don't even
- 1:16:32know what I'm saying.
- 1:16:32>> I just told him I I call him son.
- 1:16:34>> What is your little brother's actual
- 1:16:36name? If he's your little brother
- 1:16:37>> He's not my blood brother.
- 1:16:38>> Well, you he's close enough that you
- 1:16:40refer to him as your little brother.
- 1:16:42>> You know we known each other for months.
- 1:16:43I call him son. That's what everybody in
- 1:16:45the building call him son.
- 1:16:46>> What's his real name?
- 1:16:48>> I don't know, sir. He's like he's crazy.
- 1:16:50>> That's not true. What's his Instagram
- 1:16:52name?
- 1:16:53>> I don't
- 1:16:54I
- 1:16:55don't know what his I think I I don't
- 1:16:57know this man's Instagram.
- 1:16:58>> What's your Instagram?
- 1:17:00>> I don't know what you mean.
- 1:17:02>> Okay. You in a gang?
- 1:17:04>> No.
- 1:17:06Ain't the first detective talking about
- 1:17:08some EBK and all that. Somebody tell me
- 1:17:10when they put something on Draco.
- 1:17:11>> Are you EBK?
- 1:17:12>> No, I'm not nothing.
- 1:17:14>> You EBK?
- 1:17:15>> I'm not no EBK. I'm from uptown.
- 1:17:20It's crazy.
- 1:17:22They probably trying to pin a murder on
- 1:17:23me.
- 1:17:24You know how many cars like that is out
- 1:17:26there?
- 1:17:28It's crazy. I'm I'm telling y'all seen
- 1:17:30me with it pulling off after the shots.
- 1:17:33>> I'm I'm over here. We're not having
- 1:17:34There's no one sitting here.
- 1:17:36>> I look everywhere when I talk, but it's
- 1:17:38only me and you in the room. Who you
- 1:17:39talking to?
- 1:17:39>> It's only you and you in the room.
- 1:17:41>> I don't got to look at you when I talk
- 1:17:43to you, sir.
- 1:17:44What's up with you?
- 1:17:45>> Because I want you to actually have a
- 1:17:46conversation.
- 1:17:47>> That's what you told my mama last time
- 1:17:48you investigated.
- 1:17:49>> This is a serious
- 1:17:52>> I know it's serious.
- 1:17:52>> This this is quite honestly the most
- 1:17:54serious conversation you have ever had
- 1:17:56in your life.
- 1:17:56>> Yeah.
- 1:17:58>> And it probably will be the most serious
- 1:18:00conversation you have ever had in your
- 1:18:01life.
- 1:18:02>> You right.
- 1:18:02>> Because what happens in here could
- 1:18:04dictate it.
- 1:18:05>> You right.
- 1:18:06>> And right now you are not sitting in a
- 1:18:08good seat.
- 1:18:10Right now you appear
- 1:18:12to be
- 1:18:14Well, I'm just going to tell you I have
- 1:18:15probable cause
- 1:18:17all day long to say
- 1:18:19you can be charged with the death of
- 1:18:21this person. I don't like get I said I
- 1:18:22don't know if they died yet.
- 1:18:24But my understanding is it's not a
- 1:18:26survivable wound.
- 1:18:29So you have got to understand the
- 1:18:31gravity
- 1:18:32of honesty here. Because we are
- 1:18:35absolutely going to be able to make a
- 1:18:36case.
- 1:18:38That's not a question.
- 1:18:40We're already here. We already showed up
- 1:18:42at your house with the SWAT team.
- 1:18:44All that's done. You literally got
- 1:18:46caught on camera
- 1:18:48throwing the gun away. And when that gun
- 1:18:50comes back linked to that scene,
- 1:18:54dude, what are you going to do?
- 1:18:57I need you to think about it because
- 1:18:59I'm serious. I know you think I'm just
- 1:19:01trying to to have you up. I'm really
- 1:19:03not. I I'm
- 1:19:04This is really an opportunity and people
- 1:19:07don't see it as that.
- 1:19:09Listen, I can tell you people understand
- 1:19:11when people [ __ ] up. They understand
- 1:19:13when people make mistakes. They get
- 1:19:15that.
- 1:19:16You're human.
- 1:19:18Everyone's human.
- 1:19:20Everyone
- 1:19:21screws up. Sometimes there are bigger
- 1:19:24screw-ups than others. It's just the
- 1:19:25reality of life. And it doesn't mean
- 1:19:28that you you won't necessarily be held
- 1:19:30accountable because you There's got to
- 1:19:31be consequences, right? We can't just
- 1:19:33have people running around shooting
- 1:19:34everybody. But
- 1:19:36you have to learn to take
- 1:19:38responsibility. And that is what the
- 1:19:39whole
- 1:19:41legal system's kind of about. It's
- 1:19:43responsibility.
- 1:19:45You know, it's it's
- 1:19:47consequences of actions.
- 1:19:50But
- 1:19:52you know, the thing is this is your
- 1:19:53ability to get that story out there from
- 1:19:56your perspective about what happened. No
- 1:19:59one is going to believe you when you say
- 1:20:02I remember this, this, and this. But I
- 1:20:04suddenly don't remember this because I
- 1:20:05was too drunk. If you're too drunk to
- 1:20:07remember anything, you don't remember
- 1:20:09anything at all. You don't remember
- 1:20:11remember
- 1:20:12A through B. You don't just pick bits
- 1:20:15and pieces.
- 1:20:16Bits and pieces
- 1:20:18pieces of convenience. So, I need you to
- 1:20:20think about that because it's a big
- 1:20:22issue.
- 1:20:23And you know that I'm right. I know it's
- 1:20:25scary to say it.
- 1:20:27I know that it's scary to move forward
- 1:20:29and be like that. Hey, this is who's in
- 1:20:31here. This is what happened." It's a big
- 1:20:32step. I get that. And it's scary.
- 1:20:36And it's serious. But I need you to
- 1:20:38think about what happens if you don't.
- 1:20:41Okay? Let's just think about it.
- 1:20:44It's You know what? Honestly, it doesn't
- 1:20:46affect me.
- 1:20:48We got a case on you already.
- 1:20:50It affects you.
- 1:20:52That's just real.
- 1:20:52>> So, how long I got to stay?
- 1:20:55>> I don't I can't tell you time. I
- 1:20:57I don't dictate time.
- 1:21:01>> This is weird.
- 1:21:05>> Hey.
- 1:21:08I want to ask just
- 1:21:10I'll ask a couple things, okay?
- 1:21:19Um
- 1:21:20I wanted to ask, so we talked about
- 1:21:23gunshot residue earlier, right? Okay.
- 1:21:27Would you be willing to
- 1:21:29let me rub this on your hands?
- 1:21:31To see if to test if there's any gunshot
- 1:21:34residue on your hands.
- 1:21:36>> All right, so it should be like I shot
- 1:21:39my 9 one time.
- 1:21:40>> Okay. And that's fine.
- 1:21:42Shot it one time. Would you be willing
- 1:21:44to let me
- 1:21:45do this?
- 1:21:46>> It don't mean it's going to be on me
- 1:21:47anyway, ain't it?
- 1:21:49>> I'm That's why I'm asking you.
- 1:21:51>> I'm straight then.
- 1:21:54[ __ ] you weird, wait.
- 1:21:56>> Hm?
- 1:21:58>> So, I'm straight then. This is this
- 1:22:00weird, bro.
- 1:22:01>> Okay.
- 1:22:02>> Is it weird?
- 1:22:02>> Um also wanted to ask, would you be
- 1:22:04willing to give a DNA sample? I just
- 1:22:06swab the inside of your cheek.
- 1:22:11No?
- 1:22:14Okay.
- 1:22:15>> I'm creased.
- 1:22:16>> Huh?
- 1:22:17>> So, this stuff here creased.
- 1:22:19>> Okay.
- 1:22:20Um
- 1:22:22and then, what's the passcode to your
- 1:22:24phone?
- 1:22:31>> Back up all my phone.
- 1:22:32>> Mhm.
- 1:22:34>> I don't know what was on it. I've got
- 1:22:35personal stuff on my phone.
- 1:22:37>> You do?
- 1:22:38>> Yeah.
- 1:22:40>> Well, we're going to do a search warrant
- 1:22:42and go in it.
- 1:22:45>> All right.
- 1:22:47>> So, I just wanted to ask what the
- 1:22:48passcode was.
- 1:22:50>> I can give it.
- 1:22:58Okay.
- 1:22:59>> Okay.
- 1:23:02>> I'm not going to say.
- 1:23:04>> What?
- 1:23:11>> Okay.
- 1:23:13>> If you feel like telling the truth, just
- 1:23:14let me know, okay? I'll come back in.
- 1:23:18>> So, what's going on? Getting seated?
- 1:23:20>> For right now, yeah.
- 1:23:22>> I said wait. What am I waiting on?
- 1:23:25>> Right now, I've got some paperwork to
- 1:23:27do, okay?
- 1:23:29I'm not going to I'm not going to keep
- 1:23:30you here.
- 1:23:32But, so I got some paperwork that I got
- 1:23:34to do. I'll come back in in a minute.
- 1:23:36>> So, where am I going?
- 1:23:37>> Huh?
- 1:23:37>> Where am I going?
- 1:23:39>> I got to talk with them about that. This
- 1:23:40isn't my case. It's Paul Johnson's case.
- 1:23:44>> All right.
- 1:23:45>> Okay. I'll talk with Detective Johnson
- 1:23:47and see.
- 1:23:55Okay.
- 1:23:56So,
- 1:23:59thing with the gunshot residue stuff is
- 1:24:01it is not a voluntary thing. It's cuz
- 1:24:03it's perishable. We got to go ahead and
- 1:24:04do it. It's uh just sticky magnets. So,
- 1:24:06it's painless process, but yeah, it's
- 1:24:09not really like a yes or no kind of
- 1:24:11thing. We We're going to go ahead
- 1:24:13do a gunshot residue test on you.
- 1:24:14>> Technically, the evidence can be lost.
- 1:24:17>> Okay.
- 1:24:18>> So, how do you do? Can we ask you
- 1:24:20anything?
- 1:24:21>> Honestly,
- 1:24:23cuz we've been awake for 30 plus hours.
- 1:24:25>> Yeah.
- 1:24:28So, that's my fault.
- 1:24:36>> So, I'm supposed to lick your toes?
- 1:24:38>> Yeah, I ain't got no choice.
- 1:24:39All I'm going to do is rub this on your
- 1:24:41hands.
- 1:24:42>> All right.
- 1:24:42>> Okay?
- 1:24:43>> So, does it make you sick?
- 1:24:44>> Yeah.
- 1:24:49>> I'm thinking about it right now.
- 1:24:52I'm going to vomit.
- 1:24:53I'm turning with him.
- 1:24:55>> You're
- 1:24:55more than welcome to.
- 1:24:56>> I'm going to respond now.
- 1:24:59I'm ready.
- 1:25:04Somebody get a girl like this.
- 1:25:07>> Hm?
- 1:25:08>> Mhm.
- 1:25:19>> This is going to suck for 10 seconds,
- 1:25:20so.
- 1:25:33Okay. This is your right hand.
- 1:25:55And now your left hand.
- 1:26:03Are you left-handed or right-handed?
- 1:26:08>> Right.
- 1:26:09>> Okay.
- 1:26:17>> Put my right hand and messed up the
- 1:26:19frame.
- 1:26:20>> You get in a fight?
- 1:26:22>> I hit the window.
- 1:26:26You know, you left and did everything.
- 1:26:29>> Yeah, what happened to your door when
- 1:26:31you got here?
- 1:26:32>> Uh a girl slammed
- 1:26:36I feel like the hinge.
- 1:26:38>> How long ago was that?
- 1:26:41>> Since
- 1:26:41I was in high school.
- 1:26:43>> So, it's always been off the hinge?
- 1:26:45>> Just like that.
- 1:26:46>> Since then?
- 1:26:48>> I just be out in the field.
- 1:26:50>> Cuz it looked like it was just
- 1:26:52kind of got kicked open or what not cuz
- 1:26:54the way it was kind of just sitting
- 1:26:56there.
- 1:26:56>> Nah, I always have it like this cuz I'm
- 1:26:58always leaning on the door.
- 1:27:00>> All right.
- 1:27:01>> Okay.
- 1:27:02Did I let the girl go though?
- 1:27:03>> Huh?
- 1:27:04>> Did I let the girl go?
- 1:27:06>> I think she's still in there.
- 1:27:07>> She what?
- 1:27:09She just spending the night with me.
- 1:27:11>> She's not happy.
- 1:27:13>> At me?
- 1:27:14>> I think so. I don't know.
- 1:27:16>> What she mad at?
- 1:27:26I don't know what she probably mad at.
- 1:27:27What she do?
- 1:27:29>> [laughter]
- 1:27:45>> Your name is Anthony Brown, right?
- 1:27:48>> Yes, sir.
- 1:27:49>> What do you do for work?
- 1:27:53>> I do carriage.
- 1:27:54>> Hm?
- 1:27:55>> Carriage.
- 1:27:59>> Sorry, I've been up way too long.
- 1:28:01>> Carriage trash call.
- 1:28:02>> Okay.
- 1:28:03Carriage transport?
- 1:28:05So, you're currently employed there?
- 1:28:10Your mom said you want working.
- 1:28:22Where is my mom?
- 1:28:25I think she's at home.
- 1:28:29What's the type of gun do you own? You
- 1:28:31said it was a Glock.
- 1:28:32Glock 19.
- 1:28:379 mm.
- 1:28:41Do you remember the ammo that you were
- 1:28:42using? Some
- 1:28:469, but I had all kind of 9 bullets in
- 1:28:48there. They were regular
- 1:28:519 mm hollows and then some regular 9
- 1:28:54bullets.
- 1:28:55I don't know how many I had in the
- 1:28:56magazine or how many I had like 20.
- 1:28:5925 or maybe one round
- 1:29:01in the chamber.
- 1:29:04Uh that's not a good time to have a jam.
- 1:29:36It's hard to do anything with gloves on.
- 1:29:42Oh, and how long have I been sitting
- 1:29:43here?
- 1:29:44Not much longer.
- 1:29:46So what happens to the gun?
- 1:29:48Um
- 1:29:50I guess is that they're going to charge
- 1:29:51you.
- 1:29:55Charge me with what?
- 1:29:57I think the guy is still alive, so it
- 1:29:59would be aggravated assault.
- 1:30:37>> I don't know. I did.
- 1:30:39This just looks only.
- 1:30:49You saw me seal it, right?
- 1:31:11Thank you.
- 1:31:13I didn't call nobody in there.
- 1:31:15Um, you got to jail, bro.
- 1:31:17Huh? You got to jail, you will.
- 1:31:20Um, when your mom is doing it, you're
- 1:31:21out here. That's all her out there. She
- 1:31:23said
- 1:31:24Huh? What did my mom what? I talked to
- 1:31:26your mom out there. I mean, she's aware
- 1:31:28you're here. She's kind of aware of the
- 1:31:29situation.
- 1:31:31I explained to her what situation was
- 1:31:33and what, you know, we ended up taking
- 1:31:35them from the house.
- 1:31:36Um
- 1:31:38Typically, I would say she's not mad,
- 1:31:40she's just disappointed, but she was
- 1:31:42both mad and disappointed,
- 1:31:43unfortunately.
- 1:31:44Um, I think the statement that I heard
- 1:31:46repeatedly was that she has told you
- 1:31:48over and over and over you need to stop
- 1:31:50hanging out with those people.
- 1:31:52So,
- 1:31:53you know what it is.
- 1:31:54Well, I didn't say I just took my gun
- 1:31:56for life. Huh?
- 1:31:58Well, I didn't even know where my gun
- 1:31:59is.
- 1:32:00Who took
- 1:32:01Uh, I
- 1:32:02total of a dozen items.
- 1:32:05Between gun
- 1:32:07um
- 1:32:08some wire, ammunition, magazines. He had
- 1:32:12There's some red pants that look
- 1:32:13consistent with some videos that we'd
- 1:32:14seen.
- 1:32:16Um
- 1:32:17I don't think what else, but off the top
- 1:32:19of my head, that's what I'm remembering.
- 1:32:21There's a whole list we left at the
- 1:32:22residence.
- 1:32:28>> [snorts]
- 1:32:40>> All right, Mr. Brown.
- 1:32:42They're going to take you on out to the
- 1:32:43jail.
- 1:32:44You're being uh charged with aggravated
- 1:32:46assault today, and we'll probably be
- 1:32:47upgrading those charges as events
- 1:32:50change.
- 1:32:53>> Um whose cuffs are these?
- 1:32:55>> I'm not sure. Probably somebody that's
- 1:32:57out
- 1:32:58I think I'm going to with the uh initial
- 1:33:01search warrant, somebody SRD.
- 1:33:03>> Put your hands on the behind your back.
- 1:33:06>> And then we'll just move this here back,
- 1:33:08all right?
- 1:33:16>> Put the hand behind your back for me.
- 1:33:20>> You got any questions?
- 1:33:28>> He's on that charge of murder.
- 1:33:29>> We're just saying aggravated assault
- 1:33:31today, but murder charges are pending.
- 1:33:34>> What murder?
- 1:33:35>> Yeah, as soon as he dies, you're going
- 1:33:37to be charged with murder.
- 1:33:43>> Where are you taking me?
- 1:33:44>> All right, if you've got no questions,
- 1:33:45we're going to get you out of here.
- 1:33:47>> I'm going to get my papers.
- 1:33:49>> Yeah, bring him with you.
- 1:33:51>> I'm going to go ahead and search him
- 1:33:53before we get out of here. I don't know
- 1:33:53if he's got something on him.
- 1:33:54>> Do you guys
- 1:33:55Do you got anything on you?
- 1:33:59I got that. Freeze.
- 1:34:04>> Following the interrogation, Anthony
- 1:34:06Brown was charged alongside Glendarius
- 1:34:08Tate, Xzavier Faust, and Jaden Appling
- 1:34:11in Clark [music] County Superior Court.
- 1:34:14Although forensic testing determined
- 1:34:16that the fatal bullet had been fired
- 1:34:17from inside [music] Giovanni McDavid's
- 1:34:19own vehicle, prosecutors argued that
- 1:34:21Brown and the other defendants were
- 1:34:23legally responsible because their
- 1:34:25[music] initial attack provoked the
- 1:34:26return fire that killed him.
- 1:34:29All four were indicted on charges that
- 1:34:30included felony murder,
- 1:34:32>> [music]
- 1:34:32>> aggravated assault,
- 1:34:34gang-related offenses,
- 1:34:36criminal damage to property,
- 1:34:38>> [music]
- 1:34:38>> and possession of a firearm during the
- 1:34:40commission of a felony.
- 1:34:42On September 16th, 2024, [music]
- 1:34:45Brown pleaded guilty to voluntary
- 1:34:47manslaughter,
- 1:34:48five counts of aggravated assault,
- 1:34:50two violations of Georgia's Street Gang
- 1:34:53Terrorism [music] and Prevention Act,
- 1:34:55criminal damage to property, a firearm
- 1:34:57offense, and driving with a suspended
- 1:34:59license.
- 1:35:00Brown received a total sentence of 35
- 1:35:03years
- 1:35:03>> [music]
- 1:35:03>> with 25 years to be served in state
- 1:35:06prison and the remaining 10 years on
- 1:35:08strict probation.
- 1:35:10Tate and Faust accepted similar [music]
- 1:35:11agreements and received the same
- 1:35:13sentences.
- 1:35:14Appling entered a separate guilty plea
- 1:35:16[music] on February 15th, 2025.
- 1:35:20He was also sentenced to 35 years, but
- 1:35:22with 20 years in prison [music] followed
- 1:35:24by 15 years of probation.
- 1:35:26All four defendants remain in the
- 1:35:27custody of the Georgia Department of
- 1:35:29Corrections.
- 1:35:30If you found this video informative,
- 1:35:32please consider leaving a like and
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