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1. 0:00There's no one who strikes fear into the
2. 0:02hearts of modern-day celebrities quite
3. 0:03like Matan Evan. Known to some as the
4. 0:06Bill Clinton kid, he's been making waves
5. 0:08online since the age of 12 by crashing
6. 0:10awards ceremonies, conferences, and
7. 0:13basketball games to immediately cause a
8. 0:15ruckus.
9. 0:16>> Hi Slasher, it's me. Here's the shirt I
10. 0:18wore. It's the proof.
11. 0:20>> But that headline making bait and switch
12. 0:22with a Clippers jersey was just the tip
13. 0:24of the iceberg. and he's been wreaking
14. 0:25havoc on everyone ever since, becoming
15. 0:28one of the most divisive trolls in the
16. 0:30entire online realm.
17. 0:32>> You know, I didn't know that I was going
18. 0:33to be sitting talking to a bunch of
19. 0:34illiterate people who don't know how to
20. 0:36read. But, uh,
21. 0:37>> you're literally 15. What do you know?
22. 0:39>> You know how to read?
23. 0:40>> Yes, I do know how to read.
24. 0:41>> Name 10 books.
25. 0:43>> Are you serious?
26. 0:44>> Yes, 100%. Name 10 books. Yet somehow
27. 0:46people are still either arrogant or
28. 0:48stupid enough to get in front of a
29. 0:50camera with him and assume that they
30. 0:51aren't going to come out embarrassed or
31. 0:53just straight up angry about how it all
32. 0:56plays out. Do you think your family
33. 0:57would be relieved if you told them this
34. 0:59whole thing was just a prank and you
35. 1:00didn't actually believe you were a
36. 1:02raccoon?
37. 1:02>> If I told them it was a prank, they'd
38. 1:04probably be like, "Well, you invested a
39. 1:05lot of time into that prank."
40. 1:07>> Like thank the Lord [laughter] Jesus.
41. 1:10>> It's your boy Louisa and these are the
42. 1:12many victims of Maton Evan. After his
43. 1:14initial appearances as a 12-year-old,
44. 1:16where he protested in support of Hong
45. 1:19Kong's democracy movement, Maton
46. 1:21realized the power of a publicity stunt.
47. 1:23But instead of fighting for a cause, he
48. 1:25turned himself into one of the biggest
49. 1:27pranksters around. One incident that
50. 1:29helped to create this reputation was
51. 1:31when he made a big splash at the 2022
52. 1:33Game Awards. Baton bought a regular
53. 1:35ticket to the show at the Microsoft
54. 1:37Theater in LA. But he had no intentions
55. 1:40of simply watching from the sidelines.
56. 1:42Once the development team of Elden Ring
57. 1:44took the stage, Evan decided to show
58. 1:46just how terrible security at the event
59. 1:48was by rocking up in front of the crowd
60. 1:50and adding his own contribution to their
61. 1:53acceptance speech. [music]
62. 1:54>> And we create the games we want to
63. 1:56create and do our best because of you.
64. 1:59Um, thank you so much.
65. 2:02I think if if God of War Ragnarok came
66. 2:05out just a few months earlier, it would
67. 2:07have a bigger chance.
68. 2:09>> You know, real quick, I want to thank
69. 2:11everybody and say that I think I want to
70. 2:14nominate this award to my reformed
71. 2:17Orthodox Rabbi, Bill Clinton. Thank you
72. 2:19everybody.
73. 2:20>> Uh,
74. 2:23who was that guy?
75. 2:28>> All right. [laughter]
76. 2:29>> Who was that guy? The whole thing got
77. 2:31him detained by the cops for a
78. 2:33theatrical exhibition, but the publicity
79. 2:35was priceless because once again, the
80. 2:37young kid had shocked the entire world
81. 2:39with his absurdest stunts. Honestly, the
82. 2:42fact that he just respectfully stood up
83. 2:43there with the dev team for the entire
84. 2:45presentation and giving applause is
85. 2:48funnier than the speech itself. Speaking
86. 2:50to Polygon after it went down, Maton
87. 2:53played into the weirdness of his
88. 2:54comments, telling them that I thought
89. 2:56there was an extremely high chance that
90. 2:58Bill Clinton himself would get a
91. 2:59personal invite. He would be sitting in
92. 3:01the front row, maybe be nominated for at
93. 3:03least as many awards as there are. And
94. 3:06the fact that he was not even nominated,
95. 3:08not won any of them, I was completely
96. 3:10devastated. Plenty of people who pull
97. 3:12off little stunts like this disappear as
98. 3:14fast [music] as they come, unable to
99. 3:16capitalize on their 15 minutes of fame.
100. 3:18Instead, Matan made himself into an
101. 3:20online phenomenon by simply appearing
102. 3:23everywhere as if he was some mystic time
103. 3:25traveler. If you're looking to increase
104. 3:27your profile, then one of the best ways
105. 3:29to do it is to get yourself in the orbit
106. 3:30of the world's biggest streamers. And
107. 3:32for a little while, Matan basically made
108. 3:34a career out of boosting his own profile
109. 3:36by ambushing some of the most popular
110. 3:38creators when they least expected it.
111. 3:40Among the people who suffered this
112. 3:41firsthand was Kaisen. During a stream
113. 3:43with XQC at Universal, I got very
114. 3:46clearly pressed by his presence and
115. 3:48immediately ensured that security knew
116. 3:50he wasn't supposed to be there.
117. 3:53>> Yeah. Yeah.
118. 3:55>> Yo, I thought I seen him before. How you
119. 3:57doing?
120. 3:58>> What the hell?
121. 3:59>> What's going on?
122. 4:00>> You're the most random person.
123. 4:02>> You're not with us. You're not with us,
124. 4:03but I've definitely seen you before.
125. 4:04>> How you doing today?
126. 4:05>> I'm doing good. You know what I'm
127. 4:06saying?
128. 4:10>> Can I get a quick photo? Yeah. Quick
129. 4:11quick.
130. 4:13Whoa. Stop doing that. Just a quick
131. 4:16>> Stop doing that, bro. I just told you to
132. 4:17quit.
133. 4:17>> I'm trying to be low. Stop doing that.
134. 4:21>> Keep doing that, bro. Like, you're not
135. 4:22low.
136. 4:24>> Come on. Be mad. ANNOYING. HE DISGUISED
137. 4:26himself to try to blend in. Like,
138. 4:28>> even though Kai let it be known that he
139. 4:29was shook over it, the incident didn't
140. 4:31stop Matan's legend from growing online.
141. 4:34Kai having to say, "You're not with us."
142. 4:36Because bro [music] just blends in with
143. 4:37the crowd like he's from Assassin's
144. 4:39Creed. Another streamer who learned that
145. 4:41you're never safe from Maton Evan in
146. 4:43your more low-key moments was I chose
147. 4:45Speed. [music] During a trip to a fast
148. 4:46food place with some of his boys, Speed
149. 4:49was caught off guard by the sudden
150. 4:50arrival of Maton, [music] who trolled
151. 4:52him by gifting the famed Ronaldo fan a
152. 4:54Leono Messi jersey. And as he left, it
153. 4:57looked like things were pretty heated.
154. 4:59>> Thank you.
155. 5:00>> Hey, man. How you doing? What's going
156. 5:03on? I brought you like a nice kit from
157. 5:04your your favorite guy. It's signed by
158. 5:06all of the players. You can have a good
159. 5:08time with this.
160. 5:09>> All right, bro.
161. 5:10>> It's signed by the best. He's right over
162. 5:12here on the bottom. [music]
163. 5:15Is
164. 5:15>> that what?
165. 5:16>> No, it's messy on there.
166. 5:20>> All right, bro.
167. 5:24>> Who the This weird ass man justing gave
168. 5:28me a messy shirt.
169. 5:30>> The hurt your ass song. Oh, hell no.
170. 5:33Once again, the whole exchange had
171. 5:35audiences cracking up about his unique
172. 5:37ability to freak out everyone that
173. 5:39encounters him. Bro met Acceleration.
174. 5:41Bro was hella confused. By this stage,
175. 5:43there was no one quite as prolific as
176. 5:45appearing on these high-profile
177. 5:46platforms without being invited as
178. 5:48Matan. And yet, they just couldn't find
179. 5:50any way of stopping him from doing just
180. 5:52that. During one of Neon's streams,
181. 5:54Matan appeared to insist that the
182. 5:55polarizing creator was being exploited
183. 5:57by his girlfriend Sam Frank [music] for
184. 5:59his cash. What you doing?
185. 6:02>> What's up?
186. 6:06>> Oh, it's thiser.
187. 6:08>> Listen, I want to tell you something.
188. 6:09>> Oh my god.
189. 6:10>> I want to tell you something. Listen.
190. 6:13>> Listen. Honestly, I think that Sam girl,
191. 6:15I think she really loves you, man.
192. 6:16>> Oh, thank you, bro.
193. 6:17>> Not
194. 6:19>> even someone like Hassan [ __ ] wasn't
195. 6:21safe from the mental torture of having
196. 6:23to deal with Maton. While the left-wing
197. 6:25content creator appeared at a protest on
198. 6:27behalf of the writer's Guild of America
199. 6:29strike, the teenager that no one likes
200. 6:31to see coming appeared and made his
201. 6:33presence felt. What's going on? How you
202. 6:35guys doing? We love landlords. We're all
203. 6:37against unions. We're here to protest
204. 6:39against the landlords and the unions.
205. 6:41We're all against unions. They're not
206. 6:42fair to the corporate companies. This is
207. 6:45a crazy protest.
208. 6:46>> Realistically, Hassan should have known
209. 6:48better than let it get to him. But
210. 6:49instead, he really took the bait and let
211. 6:51it be known that he was angry about it.
212. 6:53more you do that and the more you end up
213. 6:56hurting
214. 6:56>> you end up hurting
215. 6:57>> the more you end up hurting capital
216. 6:59>> hurting the capital
217. 7:00>> the quicker the strike will end
218. 7:01>> the strike will
219. 7:02>> this little fetus brolord
220. 7:05>> we love landlords
221. 7:07>> we love them we love landlords
222. 7:09>> you want to move uh move away a little
223. 7:11bit
224. 7:12>> we love landlords
225. 7:13>> no we like union I mean we hate you we
226. 7:16love landlords
227. 7:17>> yeah yeah we're leaving I'm just waiting
228. 7:19for
229. 7:20>> what's
230. 7:22No, no, no, no, no. They're they're here
231. 7:25to Yeah, they're trolling.
232. 7:26>> I'm not interested. I don't like to show
233. 7:29people that are very desperate for
234. 7:30attention and clout, especially for the
235. 7:32game.
236. 7:32>> Yes, 100%.
237. 7:33>> For you specifically?
238. 7:34>> Yes. Um, that's why we're leaving right
239. 7:36now. They'll shut the up and leave.
240. 7:38They're kids.
241. 7:39>> Bro looked like he wanted to put a shot
242. 7:40collar on Maton and teach him some
243. 7:42manners. Although streamers regularly
244. 7:44wound up in his crosshairs, he didn't
245. 7:46exclusively target them. Really, it's
246. 7:48just anyone who's famous and happens to
247. 7:50have the misfortune to be around him
248. 7:52because even athletes are not safe from
249. 7:54his wrath either. This included
250. 7:55three-time NBA champion Javale McGee,
251. 7:58who found out firsthand just how
252. 8:00relentless Matan could be when he wants
253. 8:02to get your attention.
254. 8:03>> What's the dude here who think I don't
255. 8:05know what he do on the internet and
256. 8:06[ __ ] I don't know what he trying to do.
257. 8:08He's on some weird [ __ ] We grown men
258. 8:11around here. We grew up before this
259. 8:12social media age [ __ ] You know what I'm
260. 8:14saying? This [ __ ] don't faze us. We
261. 8:15didn't had real We didn't had real one
262. 8:17step to us and we really had to put [ __ ]
263. 8:19down. You know what I'm saying?
264. 8:21>> It's cool. Look, he's
265. 8:24>> gonna be on one of podcast or something.
266. 8:25>> I'm like a [ __ ] paparazzi.
267. 8:27>> Some of y'all see it.
268. 8:28>> Can you look to the right? I'm trying to
269. 8:30get like a face scan.
270. 8:31>> Just know.
271. 8:31>> By maneuvering his way into all these
272. 8:33random interactions with famous people,
273. 8:35Baton had built a name for himself that
274. 8:37ensured people tuned in whenever he
275. 8:39popped up. But that's not exactly
276. 8:41monetizable. So, the next step was a
277. 8:43platform of his own. And that's when he
278. 8:45decided to launch his podcast. Since
279. 8:47first going live in 2023, Matan's show
280. 8:50has basically given him a free pass to
281. 8:51get notable people into a room and
282. 8:54antagonize them however he sees fit.
283. 8:56Flanked by his co-hosts Mike and his
284. 8:58manager, Viral Flooring, Maton has made
285. 9:01an art out of making excellent oneliners
286. 9:03at the expense of his guests egos. You
287. 9:05often claim that you could beat UFC
288. 9:07fighters because you weigh 260 lb. If I
289. 9:10gained 100 lb, do you think I'd become
290. 9:12that stupid, too?
291. 9:14>> [laughter]
292. 9:15>> But not everyone takes it as well as
293. 9:16Bradley Martin did, leading to some
294. 9:18truly wild moments where it looks like
295. 9:20it could explode. Someone who suffered
296. 9:22this firsthand was none other than Fly
297. 9:24Soulja of the Island Boys. By the looks
298. 9:26of it, he hadn't done much research on
299. 9:28what to expect as his historic clout
300. 9:30chasing incident that was kissing his
301. 9:32own brother was naturally brought up.
302. 9:34And Fly Soldier really didn't like it.
303. 9:37Sue into Florida statute section A26.04,
304. 9:4004. Kissing your brother would warrant
305. 9:42criminal charges. Why haven't the
306. 9:44Florida authorities taken this seriously
307. 9:46and seized you and your boyfriend? I
308. 9:48mean your brother. I mean your brother
309. 9:49who's also your boyfriend.
310. 9:51>> My brother's not my boyfriend. You [ __ ]
311. 9:53face. And go back and you said what's
312. 9:56illegal?
313. 9:57>> Pursuant to Florida statute section
314. 9:59826.04.
315. 10:00Kissing your brother would warrant
316. 10:02criminal charges. Why haven't the
317. 10:04Florida authorities taken this?
318. 10:05>> This is not a act and my religion is
319. 10:07Muslim.
320. 10:08>> Your religion is Muslim? Yeah, you
321. 10:10little [ __ ] What does that have to do
322. 10:11with kissing your brother? I don't think
323. 10:12that's something Muslims do.
324. 10:14>> Once Matan knows he has someone rattled,
325. 10:16then he's obviously going to hone in on
326. 10:18it. And that's exactly what he did with
327. 10:19the island boy. And as he continued to
328. 10:22pick him apart, things got increasingly
329. 10:24heated.
330. 10:24>> What an what an interesting grift to
331. 10:26claim your Muslim so you can kiss your
332. 10:28brother.
333. 10:30>> If by the way,
334. 10:30>> you want to get punched?
335. 10:32>> You're I'm not scared that you're going
336. 10:33to punch me, but hold on,
337. 10:35>> dude. I'll make your face on that wall
338. 10:36right now. Fair to say you're one of the
339. 10:39more disgusting people in the world?
340. 10:42>> Maybe.
341. 10:42>> I would say that it's pretty disgusting
342. 10:43to pretend to suck your brother's.
343. 10:45>> Yeah, it is.
344. 10:46>> So, why'd you do that? Or will you
345. 10:48escalate and have real with your
346. 10:50brother?
347. 10:50>> No.
348. 10:52>> Why?
349. 10:53>> I'm good.
350. 10:56>> I can't hear you. You have your food
351. 10:58stuffed with a bunch of You have your
352. 10:59mouth stuffed with a bunch of food.
353. 11:01>> I'm good. No more.
354. 11:03>> No more food.
355. 11:04>> No. Although everyone knows by now that
356. 11:06they're pretty soft, it didn't stop Fly
357. 11:08Soulja from threatening to get physical.
358. 11:10But it was obvious that Maton wasn't
359. 11:12concerned about it in the slightest and
360. 11:14was just thinking about the views this
361. 11:16ridiculous interaction would yield. In
362. 11:18is what you're known for now.
363. 11:21>> I'm I'm known for in but I still have
364. 11:23more followers than you on every
365. 11:25platform.
366. 11:25>> I would rather not have to do in to have
367. 11:28followers on Instagram.
368. 11:29>> I had more followers than you before I
369. 11:30did the in. So [snorts] then why'd you
370. 11:32do it? To get even more followers.
371. 11:33>> Cuz I got greedy.
372. 11:35>> Yeah, I think that's what differentiates
373. 11:36us. And probably actually, no, that's
374. 11:38what differentiates you and your brother
375. 11:40from everybody else in the world.
376. 11:42>> How did that conversation go with him
377. 11:44initially? You were like, should we
378. 11:45should kiss each other? I mean, how did
379. 11:46you convince him to do that or did he is
380. 11:48he the one who came up with the idea?
381. 11:50>> Listen, is that the only thing you could
382. 11:53talk about? Like did you sit there and
383. 11:54off to it?
384. 11:56>> No, I didn't. After withstanding more
385. 11:58and more jokes about his weird behavior
386. 12:00with his sibling for money, Fly Soulja
387. 12:02was obviously ready to snap. Before the
388. 12:04show ended, things got a little physical
389. 12:06only for Maton to essentially son a dude
390. 12:09that's so much older than him in a way
391. 12:11that there's just no coming back from.
392. 12:13You're just misunderstanding how a
393. 12:15question this show is going to go the
394. 12:16way I want to go.
395. 12:19>> I mean, anybody can choose to not answer
396. 12:21a question.
397. 12:26>> [snorts]
398. 12:33>> Stop.
399. 12:34>> You better relax. Stop.
400. 12:35>> I caught your punch. You better relax.
401. 12:37>> I'm not cuz I'm not trying to punch for
402. 12:38real. Stop.
403. 12:38>> You Well, I caught it.
404. 12:40>> Look. No, I'm not I'm not trying to
405. 12:41punch you. I'm not trying to punch you.
406. 12:43>> Okay, back up, guys. Get the [ __ ] out.
407. 12:45Back up. Back up. Back up. Back up. Back
408. 12:48up. Get the [ __ ] out. Chill. Get the
409. 12:49[ __ ] out.
410. 12:53You're a little more of a [ __ ] than you
411. 12:55thought, huh?
412. 12:55>> So guys, they want to jump me if if if
413. 12:57anything happens. I'm sorry, but you're
414. 13:00not going to do [ __ ] You're not going
415. 13:01to do [ __ ] and you're not going to do
416. 13:02[ __ ]
417. 13:03>> Generally, it's internet celebrities
418. 13:05like that whom Maton targets. Not only
419. 13:07because it's easy for someone with that
420. 13:09kind of trolling ability he possesses,
421. 13:11but it's always going to go viral.
422. 13:13However, this isn't exclusively the
423. 13:15case. as there is one other group that
424. 13:17he seems intent on roasting whenever he
425. 13:20gets the chance and that is rabbis.
426. 13:22Apparently, Matan comes from a Jewish
427. 13:24family and may even have some family in
428. 13:27Israel. But even if that is the case, it
429. 13:29certainly hasn't stopped him from
430. 13:31bringing those of the religion onto his
431. 13:33podcast purely for the purposes of
432. 13:35infuriating them.
433. 13:36>> Do we do we have time to put money in
434. 13:38the meter?
435. 13:39>> Always about money.
436. 13:41>> You're definitely Jewish. [laughter]
437. 13:43>> No doubt about it. How does somebody
438. 13:46become a rabbi? I heard you have to get
439. 13:49bitten by a raccoon.
440. 13:50>> Um, that's how you get rabies. I think
441. 13:52you confuse the word.
442. 13:54>> Aren't those two guys similar?
443. 13:55>> Rabies and rabbis.
444. 13:56>> Yeah.
445. 13:57>> I think that maybe it's your accent that
446. 13:59confused that.
447. 13:59>> No.
448. 14:00>> But all of this was just training for
449. 14:01his real showdown with the controversial
450. 14:03Rabbi Ms. Rocky. After somehow
451. 14:05convincing him to appear on the show,
452. 14:08Baton tried to troll him from the outset
453. 14:10by putting a clearly not kosher Burger
454. 14:12King right in front of him.
455. 14:13>> No problem. Remember, I got to tell you
456. 14:15something. When you make fun, when you
457. 14:17commit sins, it's also multiply your
458. 14:20punishment.
459. 14:21>> Okay?
460. 14:21>> So, you don't you think now that you're
461. 14:23joking and you're happy, you're going to
462. 14:25pay for it.
463. 14:26>> And while the rabbi tried to discuss his
464. 14:28theological views, Baton really went for
465. 14:30his neck.
466. 14:31>> Do you think there is any man in the
467. 14:33world who has contributed more to
468. 14:36anti-semitism than you?
469. 14:39[laughter]
470. 14:39>> Probably you.
471. 14:40>> Not even close. As much as I try, I
472. 14:43could never get on this man's level.
473. 14:45>> Listen, anti-semitism started thousands
474. 14:48of years before I was born and will
475. 14:50remain many years after I would leave
476. 14:52the world.
477. 14:53>> You're the poster boy. You're like
478. 14:54LeBron.
479. 14:55>> Tell me one thing I said I'll make
480. 14:56someone into
481. 14:58is worshiping a false such I'm telling
482. 15:01you a fact.
483. 15:02>> And Matan opted to discuss some of Ms.
484. 15:04Miss Rocky's more infamous statements,
485. 15:06pulling receipts whenever he tried to
486. 15:08weasle out of it. You keep saying this
487. 15:10thing about righteous Gentiles. Do you
488. 15:12even believe these exist?
489. 15:13>> Absolutely.
490. 15:14>> Because here's an interesting clip I
491. 15:15think we should go over.
492. 15:16>> Between Chinese, Hindus, Buddhist, and
493. 15:19Christian, at least six 6 and 12 billion
494. 15:22people are idol worshippers. That
495. 15:24according to the Torah do not have the
496. 15:27right to live.
497. 15:28>> Naturally, talk turned to both Israeli
498. 15:30Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and
499. 15:32the ongoing side in Palestine. Once
500. 15:34again, Matan was ready for what was to
501. 15:36come, catching him off guard with facts
502. 15:38and witty put downs that showed the
503. 15:40hypocrisy and what he was saying.
504. 15:42>> Netanyahu as a leader of a country is
505. 15:45trying to avoid missiles on innocent
506. 15:47civilians.
507. 15:48>> But that's the last thing he's
508. 15:49concerned. [clears throat] That's his
509. 15:50concern is doing missiles on innocent
510. 15:52people.
511. 15:52>> For instance, Muslims, if you're
512. 15:54terrorists and you're a murderer and you
513. 15:55want to kill children and women, that's
514. 15:57a different kind of a scene.
515. 15:58>> Is that all Muslims to you?
516. 16:00>> Not all Muslims. I
517. 16:01>> So why even mention that? not asking you
518. 16:03about terrorists who want to kill women
519. 16:04and children. We haven't got to Israel
520. 16:06yet.
521. 16:06>> You can guess that after being
522. 16:07embarrassed by a kid, Ms. Rocky hasn't
523. 16:10been a recurring guest on the show.
524. 16:12Instead, Matan revealed that he really
525. 16:14left an impression on the rabbi and was
526. 16:16clearly pleased with himself over it.
527. 16:18>> Okay. Well, regardless, this rabbi told
528. 16:19me that I'm the most wicked man in the
529. 16:21world, basically. And I'm also He was
530. 16:24serious.
531. 16:24>> He was serious.
532. 16:25>> He was serious.
533. 16:26>> Did he know like you do a bit?
534. 16:28>> Well, that's that's part of it that he
535. 16:31thinks I'm doing a bit. I'm not. But he
536. 16:32thinks I'm doing a bit. He thinks I'm
537. 16:34mocking him
538. 16:36>> like on the show or off camera too.
539. 16:39>> I didn't really interact with him that
540. 16:41much off camera to be honest with you.
541. 16:42>> Although not said in those exact words,
542. 16:44this was basically confirmed by Ms.
543. 16:46Rocky himself in a live stream where he
544. 16:48let it be known how little respect he
545. 16:50had for Maton.
546. 16:51>> Just watch the last two debates that I
547. 16:53had with these two people. One Muslim,
548. 16:56became Muslim, and the other one is a
549. 16:59serious clown.
550. 17:01I'm sad and embarrassed to say that he's
551. 17:03a Jew. If he is a Jew, at least that's
552. 17:06what people say. He of course is not
553. 17:08proud to be a Jew. When I see the level
554. 17:12of this people and thinking to myself,
555. 17:15how is it possible in the lowest level
556. 17:17of humanity have millions of followers?
557. 17:21I said, you know, you can enjoy the
558. 17:22Bergen or Bur over here because soon,
559. 17:24very soon, you're going to pay for it.
560. 17:26In hell, you're going to have to pay for
561. 17:28what you do. And when you make fun and
562. 17:30you laugh, you're only increasing your
563. 17:33punishment. But usually when you say to
564. 17:36a person that have a brain, he loses
565. 17:40desire to eat the non-coosher food
566. 17:42because he's thinking, "What if this
567. 17:44rabbi is right?"
568. 17:45>> By this stage, it should be pretty
569. 17:46obvious that Matan will take on anyone
570. 17:48in a debate. And when he's not bothering
571. 17:50religious leaders, he has no issues
572. 17:52fighting with of girls. And because of
573. 17:54his ruthless style of interviewing, he
574. 17:56has proven himself capable of getting
575. 17:58them to react when they usually
576. 18:00wouldn't. After early debates with OF
577. 18:02girls proved that he could be a savage
578. 18:04with them, it's a miracle that anyone in
579. 18:06that profession would come on his show,
580. 18:08particularly after he wasn't exactly
581. 18:10nice to Lily Phillips.
582. 18:13>> You keeping a table from me? [music]
583. 18:15>> Yeah, I think you're disgusting and I
584. 18:16just want to make sure that I keep my
585. 18:18distance from you.
586. 18:19>> Don't want to catch the comedia. Hey,
587. 18:20>> I mean, I'm sure that's not surprising
588. 18:22to hear. No, no. I get that a lot.
589. 18:24>> But if you thought that was pretty mean,
590. 18:26he took much more extreme measures with
591. 18:28her rival, Bonnie Blue. During her rise
592. 18:30to fame, Bonnie has usually seemed
593. 18:32unfazed when trolled by people over her
594. 18:34decisions, to the point that people have
595. 18:36wondered what was wrong with her. I've
596. 18:38>> heard people call you a psychopath
597. 18:39>> many times.
598. 18:40>> And that's probably because people don't
599. 18:41see you laugh much that, you know, when
600. 18:43I'm normally um abusing women in the
601. 18:45street, I shout, "Oh, cheer up, love.
602. 18:47Might never happen." But with you, it's
603. 18:49almost like, "Come on, love. Look a bit
604. 18:50more sad. It's always happening.
605. 18:52>> [laughter]
606. 18:53>> It's happening all the time.
607. 18:56>> Yeah.
608. 18:57>> So, it's fair to say that getting under
609. 18:58her skin would take a real expert. And
610. 19:01that is certainly what Maton is.
611. 19:02>> Introduce yourself, please, in case
612. 19:04anybody doesn't know you.
613. 19:05>> Okay, no problem. I am the girl that sat
614. 19:07with 157 men in just 12 hours. And I
615. 19:10take anyone from to barely breathing.
616. 19:14>> Okay, so essentially what she's trying
617. 19:16to say, she's a disgusting. He then
618. 19:19asked her some hypotheticals that very
619. 19:21obviously made her angry, even if she
620. 19:23tried her best to downplay the rage that
621. 19:25was just underneath the surface. What do
622. 19:27you think will be the average lifespan
623. 19:29of your children? 12, 13 years old?
624. 19:32>> No, a lot older. I think they're going
625. 19:33to live a very happy, long life. If I
626. 19:35have children, they'll be able to get
627. 19:36good health care. [music] And what more
628. 19:38can you ask for?
629. 19:39>> But healthcare won't solve a broken neck
630. 19:41from hanging yourself or a shotgun to
631. 19:44the face.
632. 19:44>> For sure. Uh, that's not to say my
633. 19:46children aren't going to be happy or
634. 19:47they're not going to support my career.
635. 19:49>> When that wasn't enough, he took pot
636. 19:50shots out of her appearance, leading
637. 19:52that usually cool demeanor of hers to
638. 19:54begin to crack.
639. 19:56>> You look like you're 40 or 50, but
640. 19:57you're actually 26. Wow. Did you know
641. 20:00that?
642. 20:00>> Yeah, I see that comment a lot.
643. 20:02>> I'm making my own personal observation.
644. 20:04I'm sure other people have said it
645. 20:05because it's a little obvious. What I
646. 20:07mean, did you know that?
647. 20:08>> I've just said yes.
648. 20:09>> Do you agree with that?
649. 20:10>> No, I don't.
650. 20:11>> So, how old do you think you look? 55,
651. 20:1360? No. 26.
652. 20:14>> You think you look 26?
653. 20:16>> Yeah.
654. 20:16>> You think that if a person wasn't
655. 20:18familiar with you and they looked at
656. 20:19you, they would think that you look 26
657. 20:21years old.
658. 20:21>> I'm in good shape. I've got good hair,
659. 20:23good skin.
660. 20:24>> And by the end of the interview, Maton
661. 20:26had her on the ropes, leading Bonnie to
662. 20:28get really aggravated and defensive in a
663. 20:30way that we're not used to seeing.
664. 20:32>> Are you funded by Apac?
665. 20:33>> No, I don't know what that is.
666. 20:35>> The American Israel Public Affairs
667. 20:37Committee.
668. 20:37>> No,
669. 20:38>> you're not funded by them.
670. 20:39>> No.
671. 20:39>> I've heard some rumors.
672. 20:41>> Okay. Well, I don't even know what it
673. 20:42is. So, told you what it is. Or you
674. 20:44pretending not to know. Is that your
675. 20:45tactic here to get out of that question?
676. 20:47>> No, I generally don't have much
677. 20:48knowledge about the world or what's
678. 20:49going [music] on to be honest.
679. 20:50>> But I think you're lying here. You seem
680. 20:52very defensive about it.
681. 20:54>> I'm not. You just don't really listen to
682. 20:55anything I [music] say, so it gets
683. 20:56boring answering your questions.
684. 20:57>> Well, I'm hard of hearing a little bit
685. 20:58because I've put a screen here to block
686. 21:00me from you.
687. 21:01>> Yeah. I mean, I thought the [music]
688. 21:02sound would travel over and through the
689. 21:03side, but okay, maybe sound doesn't work
690. 21:05that way.
691. 21:06>> No, it doesn't. You're not a scientist.
692. 21:07Remember that. You're a
693. 21:09>> Mhm.
694. 21:09>> The end result of the whole thing was a
695. 21:11master class in humiliation. one that
696. 21:13people were surprised that Bonnie
697. 21:14endured for almost 40 minutes by the
698. 21:16time that it was all said and done. But
699. 21:18she's far from the only person to feel
700. 21:20that uncomfortable in Maton's presence.
701. 21:22Unlike Bonnie Blue, Clavicular is a
702. 21:25notoriously sensitive individual who's
703. 21:27not known for his sense of humor.
704. 21:29>> No offense, but you're sitting there
705. 21:30gesture gooning like a subhuman beta.
706. 21:33You I'm out here oramaxing like an S
707. 21:37tier gighat. [laughter]
708. 21:39speaking in English,
709. 21:43>> dude. [ __ ] millennials are such
710. 21:46[ __ ]
711. 21:48because they have no they have no
712. 21:50culture of their own. Really?
713. 21:51Millennials are soing gay.
714. 21:53>> So, the fact that someone who takes
715. 21:54himself that seriously agreed to appear
716. 21:57on Matan's show in the first place seems
717. 21:59like a serious oversight. Straight away,
718. 22:01Matan began his interrogation in his
719. 22:03signature style, finding holes in the
720. 22:05intentions of the looks maxing
721. 22:07philosophy. Who do you think is the most
722. 22:09attractive man in the world?
723. 22:10>> Matt Balmer scores the highest. I think
724. 22:12he's
725. 22:13>> Is this a little gay?
726. 22:14>> But it's all based on mathematics. So
727. 22:16it's not like a attractive
728. 22:17>> Who do you think is the most attractive
729. 22:19man in the world?
730. 22:20>> Yeah, when you say it when you phrase it
731. 22:21like that. Uh it it does sound a little
732. 22:24bit homosexual.
733. 22:24>> This is homosexual on your end. No,
734. 22:27>> not necessarily. No.
735. 22:28>> Can you give me your top five most
736. 22:29attractive men that you like?
737. 22:31>> Um well, you see your phrasing is a
738. 22:33little bit Can you give me the top five
739. 22:35men that you're most attracted to?
740. 22:36>> Okay, there we go. This is what
741. 22:37Clvicular's whole existence revolves
742. 22:39around. So when Matan kept finding
743. 22:42angles to make fun of it, he got
744. 22:43increasingly angry.
745. 22:45>> First glance, like when we lay out all
746. 22:46this new information, it kind of like
747. 22:47mind pucks people. I could see that's
748. 22:49happening to you a little bit. Like you
749. 22:50don't really understand.
750. 22:51>> I understand the entire concept. I get
751. 22:53the whole thing.
752. 22:54>> It just doesn't seem like it. It seems
753. 22:55like you're saying one thing, but
754. 22:56you're, you know, articulating another.
755. 22:58>> Okay, I'll articulate it and explain it.
756. 23:00And
757. 23:00>> there are there are certain traits that
758. 23:02will make somebody objective.
759. 23:03>> I think I think you just you don't get
760. 23:05it. So let's just move on to the next.
761. 23:06There are certain traits that will make
762. 23:07somebody objectively good-looking,
763. 23:09>> right? So, someone could be
764. 23:10>> But because of that, you're attracted to
765. 23:12them.
766. 23:12>> No, no, that's not how it works.
767. 23:13>> Not I'm not attracted to them cuz the
768. 23:15traits are objectively good looking.
769. 23:16>> But someone could be someone No. So,
770. 23:18you're So, do you want to just tell me
771. 23:19what I am for the rest of the podcast?
772. 23:21You want to tell me that I'm attracted
773. 23:22to someone?
774. 23:23>> I was just gathering from the hints you
775. 23:24were giving. It's like that's what it
776. 23:25just seemed like. If you're denying it,
777. 23:27then that's fine.
778. 23:28>> As the discussion carried on, Lav took
779. 23:30to the stage where he was ready to storm
780. 23:31off, but just about managed to retain
781. 23:34his cool. I don't know if you're trying
782. 23:35to like troll or or anything, but I'm
783. 23:37trying to be like genuine and like give
784. 23:39you an understanding of like looks max
785. 23:41and aesthetics, but like if you want to
786. 23:43have like middle school level
787. 23:44understandings and just make jokes the
788. 23:46whole time.
789. 23:47>> I'm not joking.
790. 23:47>> We can do that, too. Like I
791. 23:48>> might be misunderstanding. I I don't
792. 23:50know.
793. 23:50>> Well, I I love to, you know, [ __ ] around
794. 23:52and be But I didn't know if we were
795. 23:54doing like a formal thing. Like if you
796. 23:55want me to just like sit here and be all
797. 23:57like
798. 23:58>> No, do whatever do whatever is most
799. 23:59natural for you, I would say.
800. 24:00>> Yeah. Yeah. I was just trying to, you
801. 24:02know, lay it out for your audience. kind
802. 24:03of explained a little bit.
803. 24:04>> After it was all said and done, the
804. 24:06looks maxer discussed his appearance on
805. 24:08the stream, insisting the way we see him
806. 24:10online isn't convicted to the cameras.
807. 24:13And that's really what he's like,
808. 24:15>> guys. That's the thing about Matan is he
809. 24:16doesn't actually like that's not really
810. 24:18his character. Like he's always kind of
811. 24:20like that way off camera. He's not
812. 24:21really like an act that much. Maybe it's
813. 24:25exaggerated, but like the way he talks
814. 24:26is like very consistent. There's really
815. 24:29no length that Maton won't go to in
816. 24:31order to get a reaction out of his
817. 24:33target. [music]
818. 24:34Even if he's not the host of the show
819. 24:36and is just a guest, then the mission
820. 24:38remains the same. Just ask Steiny. Matan
821. 24:40has appeared on his podcast on two
822. 24:42separate occasions, leading the comments
823. 24:44to be flooded with fans who say they're
824. 24:45only there to see him and wouldn't
825. 24:47usually be caught dead watching a Steiny
826. 24:49video. All in all, they probably thought
827. 24:51it was worth it just to watch the way
828. 24:53Maton made him squirm. During a joint
829. 24:55podcast with Steiny, Ryan Garcia, and
830. 24:57Maton, a conversation about a major
831. 25:00conspiracy theory gave Evan every
832. 25:02opportunity to troll the wildly disliked
833. 25:04Nekboy about his powerful family ties.
834. 25:07And rather than take it and laugh, it
835. 25:09was pretty obvious that it really
836. 25:10annoyed him.
837. 25:11>> Is that what pizza gate is? Or when
838. 25:13people make pizza, that's what that
839. 25:14refers to?
840. 25:15>> Yeah. Yeah. They have they were calling
841. 25:17something beef jerky. In the files, they
842. 25:19often refer to I I want 6 to 8 ounces of
843. 25:23beef jerky, but I need it in a freeze.
844. 25:26Like, did you see one of the owners?
845. 25:27>> They need to take it to the lab. Like,
846. 25:29who takes beef jerky to the lab? That
847. 25:31don't make
848. 25:31>> Did you see one of the owners of the
849. 25:32pizza place got leaked?
850. 25:34>> I think so.
851. 25:34>> Harvey Steinberg.
852. 25:36>> Who the
853. 25:37>> It's my dad. I mean, this is like
854. 25:38>> Oh my god.
855. 25:39>> I'm telling you, it's
856. 25:40>> You're saying some really crazy things
857. 25:42about
858. 25:43>> You know where you're at? That's my
859. 25:44house, bro.
860. 25:45>> Yeah, I know. I'm just saying like you
861. 25:46have him here and he's talking about all
862. 25:48of this stuff. It just seems strange
863. 25:49because he's like looking at the enemy
864. 25:50right in the eye while he says it.
865. 25:52>> No, I have nothing to do with that. I
866. 25:53agree with what Ryan just said.
867. 25:55>> I don't know why the hell I invited you
868. 25:56here, but we're already here.
869. 25:57>> While Matana often seems strange and
870. 26:00different to the masses, [music]
871. 26:01it's good to know that one thing he has
872. 26:03in common with the masses is how little
873. 26:05respect he has for Steiny. Because every
874. 26:07time they're on the same show, he will
875. 26:09go out of his way to cook him. Has Jake
876. 26:11Paul's father, Greg Paul, ever ordered
877. 26:13pizza at your Domino's establishment?
878. 26:15>> I wouldn't know. Honestly, I didn't even
879. 26:17know who uh Jake Paul's father name was
880. 26:18till now. Honestly,
881. 26:19>> Greg Paul.
882. 26:20>> There has been some people who walked
883. 26:21in. I was just kind of like, "Oh,
884. 26:22>> did you met some famous people?
885. 26:24>> Some famous people come in there.
886. 26:25>> He's the most famous."
887. 26:26>> If you're familiar with Shoreline Mafia,
888. 26:28Phoenix Flex, I met a couple guys there.
889. 26:29>> See, they eat Domino's pizza, too.
890. 26:31>> Why would Steiny rank among them?
891. 26:33>> Forgive me, but I I've just he
892. 26:35>> doesn't have a [ __ ] clue who you are.
893. 26:37>> It's all good. Yeah, that's fine. No
894. 26:38matter what you may be insecure about or
895. 26:40whatever you're trying to avoid talking
896. 26:42about, that's exactly what Matan will
897. 26:44focus on. Across many episodes, Matan
898. 26:46has made it clear that jokes about
899. 26:48someone's appearance are all good with
900. 26:49him. Like when he tortured Cuff with
901. 26:51plenty of comments along those lines
902. 26:53that clearly got under his skin.
903. 26:55>> What is the expected lifespan for
904. 26:57whatever you are?
905. 26:58>> I think I'm going to live until I'm like
906. 26:5993.
907. 27:00>> No.
908. 27:01>> What?
909. 27:01>> No way.
910. 27:02>> What you mean? All I do is smoke weed,
911. 27:04that's all. And what?
912. 27:07>> Dude, I'm losing weight, bro. I was
913. 27:09bigger than this, you know.
914. 27:10>> And also, that wasn't even a fat joke.
915. 27:11It's for whatever you are. In the end,
916. 27:13this was nothing compared to what
917. 27:14awaited Dave Blunts when he waddled on
918. 27:17set. It's unclear what he thought the
919. 27:19conversation was going to be. But anyone
920. 27:21who was familiar with Matan's content
921. 27:23should have known that there was going
922. 27:24to be plenty of jokes about his
923. 27:26unhealthy physique.
924. 27:27>> Yeah, I've been to New York a couple
925. 27:29times.
926. 27:29>> Do you think you could initiate a
927. 27:31ceasefire between Israel and Gaza by
928. 27:33standing in the middle? That's pretty
929. 27:34good. Um, one can only hope. One can
930. 27:37only hope that uh anybody or anything
931. 27:39would be able to cause a ceasefire.
932. 27:42>> Well, I guess they could still shoot
933. 27:43rockets over you, but maybe if they like
934. 27:45they might. I don't know. Did you ever
935. 27:47play hide and seek?
936. 27:48>> Yeah, as a kid. Yeah.
937. 27:49>> I mean, how did that go? How the do you
938. 27:52get on a plane?
939. 27:53>> Uh, I usually get two seats.
940. 27:55>> Two. But that like I'm not trying to be
941. 27:57an [ __ ] or sound like
942. 27:58>> a douchebag, but like do you fit in the
943. 28:00airplane door?
944. 28:01>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I've been on the plane
945. 28:03numerous times.
946. 28:04>> Do you go first class or something or
947. 28:05you you need actually the row?
948. 28:07>> I don't know. It's been a minute since I
949. 28:08fly. I don't fly anymore, but
950. 28:10>> you just do like drive if you have to
951. 28:12get somewhere.
952. 28:12>> Yeah. Yeah. I don't I haven't done it
953. 28:13since I've gained notoriety, fame you
954. 28:16want to call it, or whatever.
955. 28:18>> In the end, Dave took the jokes without
956. 28:20getting in his feelings about it. And in
957. 28:21the history of Matan's show, that really
958. 28:24hasn't always been the case. A duo that
959. 28:26is really incapable of dealing with what
960. 28:28Matan was putting out there was Dean the
961. 28:30Gray and Adrien Broner. When Dean first
962. 28:32appeared on the show, Matan led with
963. 28:34Jibes about his guests small stature.
964. 28:37>> Usually the black people who are Muslim,
965. 28:39I don't know if their IQ or higher than
966. 28:40the blacks who are not Muslim, but they
967. 28:42usually have a more profound thought
968. 28:44process. Like they're able to decipher
969. 28:46things, ideas, and explain them better.
970. 28:48You are at the lowest level. You don't
971. 28:50even understand what words mean.
972. 28:51>> You don't even understand how to
973. 28:52interview. So
974. 28:53>> maybe if you get better at that, maybe
975. 28:54we we'd see more eye to eye.
976. 28:57>> But we wouldn't see eye to eye because
977. 28:58you're about 5 in shorter than me.
978. 29:00>> I'm not that [ __ ] small,
979. 29:01[ __ ] How tall are you?
980. 29:02>> Probably like 5'8, 5'9.
981. 29:03>> Okay, let's stand up.
982. 29:07>> Four, 5 in.
983. 29:08>> Why are you trying to insinuate you're
984. 29:09as tall as me?
985. 29:10>> I'm trying to situate that you was a
986. 29:12[ __ ] Once he knew that he had Dean
987. 29:13right where he wanted him, he changed
988. 29:15course and began making jokes about his
989. 29:17recent altercations with Larry Wills and
990. 29:19Ticky Gazen where the influencer boxer
991. 29:22wound up getting smacked around. What's
992. 29:24the point of instigating people to slap
993. 29:26you if you're not even going to sue them
994. 29:28after? Is your goal to look like a small
995. 29:30insulent fool?
996. 29:31>> Uh, how I'm going to sue someone for
997. 29:33slapping me?
998. 29:33>> Because it's assault.
999. 29:34>> I'm not no [ __ ] though. If someone slap
1000. 29:36me, I'm going to get my look back.
1001. 29:37>> So then why are you trying to get people
1002. 29:38to slap you if you don't even stand?
1003. 29:40>> I'm not getting nobody to slap me. Ain't
1004. 29:40nobody slapping not slap me. Nobody in
1005. 29:42is going to slap me. Nobody in real life
1006. 29:44going to slap me.
1007. 29:45>> I get slapped by people.
1008. 29:46>> I don't get slapped by under.
1009. 29:49>> Somehow Maton convinced Dean to go back
1010. 29:51once more with former boxing world
1011. 29:53champion Adrien Broner. And this time
1012. 29:55they were ready for combat.
1013. 29:56>> You already know it's AB. Always
1014. 29:58balling.
1015. 29:59>> Adrian Brody, you're from the Problem
1016. 30:01Broner. Four time world champion.
1017. 30:03>> Adrian, the problem Brody,
1018. 30:04>> stop showing me off. I'll smack the [ __ ]
1019. 30:06out you. All right.
1020. 30:07>> Dean, do you want to introduce yourself?
1021. 30:09>> Hey, why you got me over here by this
1022. 30:10trash though? Okay.
1023. 30:11>> To keep you some company.
1024. 30:13>> Even if Matan acted completely unfased
1025. 30:15by the physical threat they posed.
1026. 30:17>> Would it be in the heavyweight division?
1027. 30:19>> No, probably cruiserweight though.
1028. 30:21>> But I'm saying tomorrow. No weight
1029. 30:22cutting. You know,
1030. 30:23>> probably cruiser weight.
1031. 30:24>> So, what are you weighing at right now?
1032. 30:26>> I'm not sure, but I I'm pretty sure I'm
1033. 30:28I'm I'm about cruiserweight.
1034. 30:30>> That What is cruiser weight? Like uh you
1035. 30:31know 180 something like that?
1036. 30:33>> Yeah.
1037. 30:33>> I'm like 165. I feel like you're
1038. 30:35probably like more than
1039. 30:36>> I never gave a bro. I think you're like
1040. 30:38maybe a little more than
1041. 30:39>> I never asked what you weighed, bro.
1042. 30:41>> Instead of backing down, Maton kept on
1043. 30:42racking up detention, leading AB and
1044. 30:45Dean increasingly ready to lose it.
1045. 30:47>> Would you cheat on your boyfriend if he
1046. 30:49cheated on you?
1047. 30:50>> Now, look, you got three strikes. That's
1048. 30:51one,
1049. 30:52>> you know. Okay, that's no good.
1050. 30:53>> No, you got three strikes. That's
1051. 30:55>> okay. Your girlfriend. Your girlfriend
1052. 30:56will change it.
1053. 30:57>> Hey, you know they can't save you.
1054. 30:58>> I know I know kung fu,
1055. 31:00>> man. She going to go to sleep. You can't
1056. 31:01kick. I ain't never seen nobody kick
1057. 31:03sleep.
1058. 31:03>> I mean, I'm always up.
1059. 31:04>> No, you going to sleep. Just move the
1060. 31:06trash can. Move me. Mike, move the trash
1061. 31:09can for him. Other mic.
1062. 31:12>> Dean, what do you think? Who's the
1063. 31:13greatest boxer of all time?
1064. 31:14>> You got me in the corner, gang.
1065. 31:16>> No, you have a mic.
1066. 31:17>> I don't, bro. What the am I doing in a
1067. 31:19corner? Like I'm just like some ass that
1068. 31:21nobody give.
1069. 31:21>> No, it's cuz this set is smaller than
1070. 31:23our last one.
1071. 31:24>> You could have scooted one of them over.
1072. 31:26>> Do you want to come over here?
1073. 31:28>> I don't know. But you should have did
1074. 31:29that, bro.
1075. 31:30>> We can bring you over. I tried.
1076. 31:31>> I get the trolling [ __ ] but this
1077. 31:32disrespectful as
1078. 31:33>> clearly not down with the shenanigans of
1079. 31:34the show. AB, let it be known that it
1080. 31:37could go off at any second.
1081. 31:38>> Cuz if we crash out, we'll crash out in
1082. 31:40the
1083. 31:42>> Get up, [ __ ] You ain't talking anyway.
1084. 31:45Your ass up.
1085. 31:46>> Okay. My seat over there by the trash so
1086. 31:48they don't come out, crash out, and kill
1087. 31:49us.
1088. 31:49>> I wanted to slap the [ __ ] out of
1089. 31:51somebody today. And you look like a
1090. 31:52candidate. Now, now get the [ __ ] out
1091. 31:54before I slap you.
1092. 31:55>> Oh, that's the neighbor. We can't
1093. 31:57attack. Don't get evicted.
1094. 31:58>> What? What? How can I control that?
1095. 32:00>> And then you gave
1096. 32:01>> You think I know that guy?
1097. 32:02>> You're not going to be able to control
1098. 32:03me either. I'm just letting you know,
1099. 32:05bro. You got a real gangster in your
1100. 32:06show, gang. All this all that one [ __ ]
1101. 32:08Stop that, bro.
1102. 32:09>> I don't know that guy, though. What?
1103. 32:11What can I do?
1104. 32:11>> And I'mma slap the [ __ ] out the next
1105. 32:13that do some dumb [ __ ]
1106. 32:14>> Eventually, the energy was so off that
1107. 32:16AB and Co straight up just left.
1108. 32:19>> Huh?
1109. 32:22>> That That wasn't offensive. It's a
1110. 32:24question about his boxing career.
1111. 32:26>> [ __ ] Halo.
1112. 32:29Whether or not you're capable to endure
1113. 32:30what Maton puts you through is a real
1114. 32:32test of your character. Because if you
1115. 32:34have any skeletons in your closet, Evan
1116. 32:36will use them to his advantage. This is
1117. 32:38something comedian Brian Callen learned
1118. 32:41firsthand when he appeared on Matan's
1119. 32:43show at a time where he wasn't exactly
1120. 32:45killing it in the standup world. For
1121. 32:47starters, he wound up using some of his
1122. 32:49own most ridiculous quotes against him.
1123. 32:52>> By the way, I'm just going to warn you
1124. 32:53now. Don'ting bully me. I'll show up
1125. 32:55right to your house.
1126. 32:56>> I'll show up at youring house. BANG.
1127. 32:58BANG. BANG, BANG, BANG.
1128. 32:59>> COME ON. YOU'RE DOING ME on Rogan, DUDE.
1129. 33:01I KNOW WHAT YOU'REING DOING. I don't
1130. 33:03give a [ __ ] about your UFC [ __ ] I don't
1131. 33:04give a [ __ ] about your UFC [ __ ]
1132. 33:06Well, that's what I used to be like, and
1133. 33:07then now I'm not that way.
1134. 33:08>> Afterwards, he made reference to Ken's
1135. 33:10faltering career and suggested that his
1136. 33:12audience was dwindling down to nothing.
1137. 33:15>> If you signed a blank Gilden shirt,
1138. 33:17would it decrease in value?
1139. 33:18>> Wait, if I signed what?
1140. 33:19>> A blank Gilden shirt. Just like a blank
1141. 33:21black t-shirt.
1142. 33:22>> Okay, I'm going to tell you a story, and
1143. 33:24you better noting make fun of me.
1144. 33:25>> I wouldn't want to bully someone. I
1145. 33:26signed I signed an iPhone and I put it
1146. 33:29on eBay and I said I'm selling this and
1147. 33:32no one bought it.
1148. 33:33>> That's a big surprise. What's your
1149. 33:34message to your fan?
1150. 33:35>> Fans.
1151. 33:36>> I wrote it here. What's your message to
1152. 33:38your fan?
1153. 33:39>> Okay, but I have fans and my message
1154. 33:41>> You have a big fan out there. What's
1155. 33:42your message?
1156. 33:43>> My message to my fans is
1157. 33:44>> fan singular.
1158. 33:45>> With Ken pushing 60, the generational
1159. 33:48divide between the two was apparent for
1160. 33:49all to see. And it quickly became
1161. 33:52obvious that he didn't know what to do
1162. 33:53with this kid at all. Would you rather
1163. 33:56get $480,000 right now or 16 cents that
1164. 33:59doubles every day for a week?
1165. 34:01>> 16 cents that doubles every day for a
1166. 34:03week.
1167. 34:03>> That would add up to 2048 total.
1168. 34:05>> Is that true?
1169. 34:06>> That's true. I just did the math in my
1170. 34:07head. I didn't write it down or nothing.
1171. 34:09>> Damn. Cuz you want to go usually
1172. 34:11exponential. You know what I'm saying?
1173. 34:12>> Yeah. Are you Jewish?
1174. 34:13>> Well, my last name, the Italian side
1175. 34:16isani.
1176. 34:17>> So, you're Italian.
1177. 34:18>> I'm Italian. But they look more like
1178. 34:19they come from Israel, not from Italy.
1179. 34:21Does that make sense?
1180. 34:22>> I know. For example, my mother looks
1181. 34:24people think she's Ashkanazi.
1182. 34:27>> Replace her face.
1183. 34:28>> Sorry.
1184. 34:28>> Maybe your mother should replace her
1185. 34:29face.
1186. 34:31>> She What the is that supposed to mean?
1187. 34:34That's so insulting, dude.
1188. 34:35>> And while he had every right to despise
1189. 34:37him, Ken actually came away with some
1190. 34:39reverence for the young man for just how
1191. 34:41little he cares about offending anyone.
1192. 34:43>> I would be the worst [ __ ] poster on
1193. 34:45Twitter of all time. I'd be a total
1194. 34:48troll. I'd be talking mad [ __ ] all day
1195. 34:50long.
1196. 34:51>> You know that kid, Matan? He's that kid,
1197. 34:53the Israeli kid who's like 17 years old
1198. 34:55and a complete troll. I did his podcast.
1199. 34:57It was so fun. But he's just like that
1200. 34:59those kids at that age, they are about
1201. 35:01just there's no reverence to anything.
1202. 35:03No,
1203. 35:03>> they want to tear it all down.
1204. 35:05>> They want to tear it all down. Also,
1205. 35:06it's all about making a a living getting
1206. 35:09eyeballs on you. Yeah. Right. That's
1207. 35:10what their their business is, eyeballs.
1208. 35:12>> However, not everyone shares that view
1209. 35:14at all. George Santos is one of them.
1210. 35:16>> [music]
1211. 35:17>> You'd think that a disgraced member of
1212. 35:18the House of Representatives who pleaded
1213. 35:20guilty in August 2024 to wire fraud and
1214. 35:23aggravated identity theft really should
1215. 35:25have known better than to have anything
1216. 35:26to do with Maton. But all these people
1217. 35:29really care about is clicks. So perhaps
1218. 35:31it's no big shock that they'd put
1219. 35:32themselves in the firing line for the
1220. 35:34views. During his trip to Santos's Pants
1221. 35:36on Fire podcast, Baton quickly made it
1222. 35:38obvious that he had less than an ounce
1223. 35:40of appreciation for the people he was
1224. 35:41talking to. I do like and I'm not a
1225. 35:44violent person but I want I I want it
1226. 35:47like I want to tell you something how
1227. 35:49slow that was.
1228. 35:50>> What's your goal with your ass?
1229. 35:51>> You know why I would stick this heel
1230. 35:52>> this very expensive shoe that you could
1231. 35:54never afford.
1232. 35:55>> Is you guys whole thing that you were
1233. 35:56like arrogant that you have money?
1234. 35:58>> No. You said that we had you said we're
1235. 36:00poor. I was just making a racist.
1236. 36:02>> You call me trans. You
1237. 36:04>> I was asking
1238. 36:05>> you literally said you said already
1239. 36:07you've crossed so many boundaries. Why
1240. 36:08do you do that?
1241. 36:09>> You told me you only had
1242. 36:10>> Do you have a girlfriend?
1243. 36:10>> You told me you only had one. He's never
1244. 36:12been touched by a girl and he never will
1245. 36:13be.
1246. 36:14>> Are you gay?
1247. 36:14>> You You Oh,
1248. 36:16>> are you
1249. 36:16>> You told me you only had one boundary.
1250. 36:18>> Are you racist?
1251. 36:19>> Yeah, absolutely.
1252. 36:20>> Whether it was their first time
1253. 36:21encountering a troll of his magnitude or
1254. 36:24something about Maton that just really
1255. 36:26bothered them, things would escalate
1256. 36:27over the course of the interview that
1257. 36:29his co-host Naja challenged the teenager
1258. 36:32to a fight.
1259. 36:32>> Let's go. Let's go ahead and get up.
1260. 36:36>> Are you Are you air punching a woman?
1261. 36:38>> I would like to punch her for real in
1262. 36:40the face. You said no physical, but
1263. 36:41>> I said you don't touch me.
1264. 36:42>> You don't touch me.
1265. 36:43>> But you think you can touch me?
1266. 36:44>> Yeah.
1267. 36:44>> I'll throw a a leg kick in your face.
1268. 36:47>> Mhm.
1269. 36:47>> Oh,
1270. 36:48>> now you're only a child, so I would
1271. 36:50actually be the one to go to jail if I
1272. 36:52pulverize.
1273. 36:52>> So I win completely.
1274. 36:54>> What did you take before you got here?
1275. 36:55>> Nothing.
1276. 36:55>> Why did you stand up like that? Who
1277. 36:57raised you? Mom or dad? Are you single
1278. 36:59single mother? Probably.
1279. 37:00>> To this day, it's Santos's most
1280. 37:02successful podcast episode on YouTube by
1281. 37:04a mile. Mainly because it's all of
1282. 37:06Matan's fans who watched it and felt
1283. 37:08like he won the entire exchange. Hands
1284. 37:10down, them not understanding they're the
1285. 37:12butt of the joke and being so hostile is
1286. 37:14the funniest thing I've seen all month.
1287. 37:16Eventually, George returned the favor
1288. 37:18and appeared on Maton's show. Left
1289. 37:20without the constraints of a normal
1290. 37:22podcast, Maton delve deep into how
1291. 37:24Santos' sentence for his crimes was
1292. 37:26commuted by Trump and just wouldn't let
1293. 37:28up. Did you offer your ass to various
1294. 37:30prison gangs for protection?
1295. 37:36Why are you looking at me as if that's
1296. 37:37not a reasonable question to ask? a
1297. 37:39basically handicapped gay guy who went
1298. 37:41to jail.
1299. 37:43>> I'm going to give you a shot to ask a
1300. 37:45decent question.
1301. 37:46>> Seriously, why the hell did Trump pardon
1302. 37:48you from jail?
1303. 37:48>> I don't know. Ask President Trump.
1304. 37:50>> What? What happened? Did you offer him
1305. 37:51like a sexual favor?
1306. 37:54You said if you release me, I'll owe you
1307. 37:56a sexual favor.
1308. 37:59Is that what happened? You're quiet
1309. 38:01about it. Are you under some NDA?
1310. 38:02>> No, I'm I'm just trying to think like
1311. 38:05you know what's going on in my brain
1312. 38:06right now? You're talking and you're
1313. 38:07going yap yap [music] yap yap yap. I
1314. 38:09mean it's not like you're saying
1315. 38:10anything interesting to me. So I mean
1316. 38:11I'm just
1317. 38:12>> I'm just I had
1318. 38:13>> I'm playing Gloria Stefon in my head.
1319. 38:14I'm sorry.
1320. 38:15>> I actually asked you a pretty tame
1321. 38:17question. I said
1322. 38:18>> you think it's tame to ask me if the
1323. 38:19president of the United States bartered
1324. 38:21with me on favors?
1325. 38:22>> No, I was referencing.
1326. 38:23>> You think that'sing tame? You think
1327. 38:25that's a normal question you ask a human
1328. 38:27being?
1329. 38:27>> Yes, actually. And you're sick.
1330. 38:29You'reing insane. Go ahead. Along the
1331. 38:31way, he proved once again that he was
1332. 38:33among the most fearless comedians out
1333. 38:35there when the talk turned to Georgia's
1334. 38:37support out of Zionism with Maton
1335. 38:39responding in a way that would have most
1336. 38:41content creators terrified about the
1337. 38:43consequences.
1338. 38:44>> What's your take on Israel?
1339. 38:47So, you're a big Israel guy.
1340. 38:49>> You can say that.
1341. 38:50>> So, that's how you got out of jail.
1342. 38:52>> Oh my god. There goes the conspiracy
1343. 38:54theories.
1344. 38:55>> There he goes.
1345. 38:56>> So, let me ask you a question. What's
1346. 38:57your take on Israel?
1347. 39:01>> [sighs]
1348. 39:02>> At this point, it's a miracle that
1349. 39:04anyone voluntarily goes on Maton's show
1350. 39:06because no matter who you are, there is
1351. 39:08virtually no chance that you're going to
1352. 39:10make it through the whole thing without
1353. 39:11him yielding a viral clip where he's
1354. 39:14making you look ridiculous or incapable
1355. 39:16of taking a joke. That is his
1356. 39:18superpower. And at the moment, it seems
1357. 39:20like there's no chance he'll fall
1358. 39:22anytime soon so long as people remain
1359. 39:24stupid enough to think that they're the
1360. 39:26ones who will be the exception to the
1361. 39:28rule.