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The urgency of intersectionality | Kimberlé Crenshaw | TED — Transcript

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  1. 0:12I'd like to try something new.
  2. 0:15Those of you who are able,
  3. 0:16please stand up.
  4. 0:20OK, so I'm going to name some names.
  5. 0:24When you hear a name that you don't recognize,
  6. 0:26you can't tell me anything about them,
  7. 0:28I'd like you to take a seat
  8. 0:30and stay seated.
  9. 0:32The last person standing, we're going to see what they know. OK?
  10. 0:35(Laughter)
  11. 0:37All right.
  12. 0:39Eric Garner.
  13. 0:42Mike Brown.
  14. 0:47Tamir Rice.
  15. 0:51Freddie Gray.
  16. 0:56So those of you who are still standing,
  17. 0:58I'd like you to turn around and take a look.
  18. 1:00I'd say half to most of the people are still standing.
  19. 1:04So let's continue.
  20. 1:07Michelle Cusseaux.
  21. 1:15Tanisha Anderson.
  22. 1:22Aura Rosser.
  23. 1:27Meagan Hockaday.
  24. 1:30So if we look around again,
  25. 1:32there are about four people still standing,
  26. 1:35and actually I'm not going to put you on the spot.
  27. 1:38I just say that to encourage transparency, so you can be seated.
  28. 1:41(Laughter)
  29. 1:44So those of you who recognized the first group of names know
  30. 1:47that these were African-Americans who have been killed by the police
  31. 1:51over the last two and a half years.
  32. 1:55What you may not know
  33. 1:56is that the other list is also African-Americans
  34. 2:01who have been killed within the last two years.
  35. 2:07Only one thing distinguishes the names that you know
  36. 2:11from the names that you don't know:
  37. 2:14gender.
  38. 2:16So let me first let you know that there's nothing at all distinct
  39. 2:22about this audience
  40. 2:24that explains the pattern of recognition that we've just seen.
  41. 2:28I've done this exercise dozens of times around the country.
  42. 2:32I've done it to women's rights organizations.
  43. 2:35I've done it with civil rights groups.
  44. 2:37I've done it with professors. I've done it with students.
  45. 2:40I've done it with psychologists. I've done it with sociologists.
  46. 2:44I've done it even with progressive members of Congress.
  47. 2:48And everywhere, the awareness of the level of police violence
  48. 2:52that black women experience
  49. 2:54is exceedingly low.
  50. 2:57Now, it is surprising, isn't it, that this would be the case.
  51. 3:01I mean, there are two issues involved here.
  52. 3:03There's police violence against African-Americans,
  53. 3:06and there's violence against women,
  54. 3:08two issues that have been talked about a lot lately.
  55. 3:12But when we think about who is implicated by these problems,
  56. 3:18when we think about who is victimized by these problems,
  57. 3:21the names of these black women never come to mind.
  58. 3:25Now, communications experts tell us
  59. 3:28that when facts do not fit with the available frames,
  60. 3:32people have a difficult time incorporating new facts
  61. 3:36into their way of thinking about a problem.
  62. 3:41These women's names have slipped through our consciousness
  63. 3:44because there are no frames for us to see them,
  64. 3:47no frames for us to remember them,
  65. 3:50no frames for us to hold them.
  66. 3:53As a consequence,
  67. 3:55reporters don't lead with them,
  68. 3:58policymakers don't think about them,
  69. 4:01and politicians aren't encouraged or demanded that they speak to them.
  70. 4:07Now, you might ask,
  71. 4:09why does a frame matter?
  72. 4:11I mean, after all,
  73. 4:12an issue that affects black people and an issue that affects women,
  74. 4:18wouldn't that necessarily include black people who are women
  75. 4:22and women who are black people?
  76. 4:25Well, the simple answer is that this is a trickle-down approach to social justice,
  77. 4:30and many times it just doesn't work.
  78. 4:34Without frames that allow us to see
  79. 4:36how social problems impact all the members of a targeted group,
  80. 4:41many will fall through the cracks of our movements,
  81. 4:44left to suffer in virtual isolation.
  82. 4:49But it doesn't have to be this way.
  83. 4:54Many years ago, I began to use the term "intersectionality"
  84. 4:59to deal with the fact that many of our social justice problems
  85. 5:03like racism and sexism
  86. 5:05are often overlapping,
  87. 5:08creating multiple levels of social injustice.
  88. 5:13Now, the experience that gave rise to intersectionality
  89. 5:18was my chance encounter with a woman named Emma DeGraffenreid.
  90. 5:24Emma DeGraffenreid was an African-American woman,
  91. 5:28a working wife and a mother.
  92. 5:30I actually read about Emma's story from the pages of a legal opinion
  93. 5:36written by a judge who had dismissed Emma's claim
  94. 5:40of race and gender discrimination
  95. 5:42against a local car manufacturing plant.
  96. 5:47Emma, like so many African-American women,
  97. 5:51sought better employment for her family and for others.
  98. 5:55She wanted to create a better life for her children and for her family.
  99. 5:59But she applied for a job,
  100. 6:01and she was not hired,
  101. 6:03and she believed that she was not hired because she was a black woman.
  102. 6:07Now, the judge in question dismissed Emma's suit,
  103. 6:12and the argument for dismissing the suit was
  104. 6:15that the employer did hire African-Americans
  105. 6:19and the employer hired women.
  106. 6:23The real problem, though, that the judge was not willing to acknowledge
  107. 6:27was what Emma was actually trying to say,
  108. 6:30that the African-Americans that were hired,
  109. 6:33usually for industrial jobs, maintenance jobs, were all men.
  110. 6:39And the women that were hired,
  111. 6:41usually for secretarial or front-office work,
  112. 6:44were all white.
  113. 6:46Only if the court was able to see how these policies came together
  114. 6:51would he be able to see the double discrimination
  115. 6:55that Emma DeGraffenreid was facing.
  116. 6:58But the court refused to allow Emma to put two causes of action together
  117. 7:04to tell her story
  118. 7:05because he believed that, by allowing her to do that,
  119. 7:09she would be able to have preferential treatment.
  120. 7:13She would have an advantage by having two swings at the bat,
  121. 7:19when African-American men and white women only had one swing at the bat.
  122. 7:24But of course, neither African-American men or white women
  123. 7:29needed to combine a race and gender discrimination claim
  124. 7:34to tell the story of the discrimination they were experiencing.
  125. 7:39Why wasn't the real unfairness
  126. 7:42law's refusal to protect African-American women
  127. 7:46simply because their experiences weren't exactly the same
  128. 7:50as white women and African-American men?
  129. 7:55Rather than broadening the frame to include African-American women,
  130. 8:00the court simply tossed their case completely out of court.
  131. 8:06Now, as a student of antidiscrimination law,
  132. 8:10as a feminist,
  133. 8:11as an antiracist,
  134. 8:13I was struck by this case.
  135. 8:17It felt to me like injustice squared.
  136. 8:21So first of all,
  137. 8:24black women weren't allowed to work at the plant.
  138. 8:27Second of all, the court doubled down on this exclusion
  139. 8:31by making it legally inconsequential.
  140. 8:35And to boot, there was no name for this problem.
  141. 8:39And we all know that, where there's no name for a problem,
  142. 8:43you can't see a problem,
  143. 8:44and when you can't see a problem, you pretty much can't solve it.
  144. 8:50Many years later, I had come to recognize
  145. 8:52that the problem that Emma was facing was a framing problem.
  146. 8:59The frame that the court was using
  147. 9:01to see gender discrimination or to see race discrimination
  148. 9:06was partial, and it was distorting.
  149. 9:10For me, the challenge that I faced was
  150. 9:12trying to figure out whether there was an alternative narrative,
  151. 9:17a prism that would allow us to see Emma's dilemma,
  152. 9:22a prism that would allow us to rescue her from the cracks in the law,
  153. 9:28that would allow judges to see her story.
  154. 9:33So it occurred to me,
  155. 9:34maybe a simple analogy to an intersection
  156. 9:39might allow judges to better see Emma's dilemma.
  157. 9:44So if we think about this intersection, the roads to the intersection would be
  158. 9:49the way that the workforce was structured by race and by gender.
  159. 9:56And then the traffic in those roads would be the hiring policies
  160. 10:00and the other practices that ran through those roads.
  161. 10:05Now, because Emma was both black and female,
  162. 10:10she was positioned precisely where those roads overlapped,
  163. 10:15experiencing the simultaneous impact
  164. 10:20of the company's gender and race traffic.
  165. 10:25The law -- the law is like that ambulance that shows up
  166. 10:31and is ready to treat Emma only if it can be shown
  167. 10:34that she was harmed on the race road or on the gender road
  168. 10:39but not where those roads intersected.
  169. 10:43So what do you call being impacted by multiple forces
  170. 10:49and then abandoned to fend for yourself?
  171. 10:53Intersectionality seemed to do it for me.
  172. 10:58I would go on to learn that African-American women,
  173. 11:02like other women of color,
  174. 11:04like other socially marginalized people all over the world,
  175. 11:08were facing all kinds of dilemmas and challenges
  176. 11:12as a consequence of intersectionality,
  177. 11:15intersections of race and gender,
  178. 11:19of heterosexism, transphobia, xenophobia, ableism,
  179. 11:24all of these social dynamics come together
  180. 11:29and create challenges that are sometimes quite unique.
  181. 11:35But in the same way
  182. 11:36that intersectionality
  183. 11:39raised our awareness to the way that black women live their lives,
  184. 11:45it also exposes the tragic circumstances
  185. 11:49under which African-American women die.
  186. 11:54Police violence against black women
  187. 11:58is very real.
  188. 12:00The level of violence that black women face
  189. 12:02is such that it's not surprising
  190. 12:05that some of them do not survive their encounters with police.
  191. 12:11Black girls as young as seven,
  192. 12:14great grandmothers as old as 95
  193. 12:19have been killed by the police.
  194. 12:21They've been killed in their living rooms,
  195. 12:24in their bedrooms.
  196. 12:26They've been killed in their cars.
  197. 12:29They've been killed on the street.
  198. 12:31They've been killed in front of their parents
  199. 12:34and they've been killed in front of their children.
  200. 12:38They have been shot to death.
  201. 12:41They have been stomped to death.
  202. 12:43They have been suffocated to death.
  203. 12:46They have been manhandled to death.
  204. 12:49They have been tasered to death.
  205. 12:53They've been killed when they've called for help.
  206. 12:57They've been killed when they were alone,
  207. 13:00and they've been killed when they were with others.
  208. 13:04They've been killed shopping while black,
  209. 13:08driving while black,
  210. 13:11having a mental disability while black,
  211. 13:15having a domestic disturbance while black.
  212. 13:19They've even been killed being homeless while black.
  213. 13:24They've been killed talking on the cell phone,
  214. 13:26laughing with friends,
  215. 13:29sitting in a car reported as stolen
  216. 13:32and making a U-turn in front of the White House
  217. 13:35with an infant strapped in the backseat of the car.
  218. 13:40Why don't we know these stories?
  219. 13:44Why is it that their lost lives
  220. 13:48don't generate the same amount of media attention and communal outcry
  221. 13:53as the lost lives of their fallen brothers?
  222. 13:57It's time for a change.
  223. 14:03So what can we do?
  224. 14:06In 2014, the African-American Policy Forum began to demand
  225. 14:12that we "say her name"
  226. 14:16at rallies, at protests,
  227. 14:19at conferences, at meetings,
  228. 14:22anywhere and everywhere
  229. 14:25that state violence against black bodies is being discussed.
  230. 14:30But saying her name is not enough.
  231. 14:33We have to be willing to do more.
  232. 14:36We have to be willing to bear witness,
  233. 14:39to bear witness to the often painful realities
  234. 14:42that we would just rather not confront,
  235. 14:45the everyday violence and humiliation that many black women have had to face,
  236. 14:52black women across color,
  237. 14:54age, gender expression,
  238. 14:57sexuality and ability.
  239. 15:01So we have the opportunity right now --
  240. 15:05bearing in mind that some of the images that I'm about to share with you
  241. 15:09may be triggering for some --
  242. 15:12to collectively bear witness to some of this violence.
  243. 15:18We're going to hear the voice of the phenomenal Abby Dobson.
  244. 15:23And as we sit with these women,
  245. 15:26some who have experienced violence and some who have not survived them,
  246. 15:33we have an opportunity
  247. 15:34to reverse what happened at the beginning of this talk,
  248. 15:38when we could not stand for these women
  249. 15:41because we did not know their names.
  250. 15:45So at the end of this clip, there's going to be a roll call.
  251. 15:50Several black women's names will come up.
  252. 15:54I'd like those of you who are able to join us in saying these names
  253. 15:59as loud as you can,
  254. 16:02randomly, disorderly.
  255. 16:04Let's create a cacophony of sound
  256. 16:08to represent our intention
  257. 16:11to hold these women up,
  258. 16:14to sit with them,
  259. 16:15to bear witness to them,
  260. 16:18to bring them into the light.
  261. 16:28(Singing) Abby Dobson: Say,
  262. 16:35say her name.
  263. 16:42Say,
  264. 16:50say her name.
  265. 16:54(Audience) Shelly!
  266. 16:56(Audience) Kayla!
  267. 16:57AD: Oh,
  268. 17:05say her name.
  269. 17:11(Audience shouting names)
  270. 17:14Say, say,
  271. 17:21say her name.
  272. 17:29Say her name.
  273. 17:34For all the names
  274. 17:37I'll never know,
  275. 17:44say her name.
  276. 17:47KC: Aiyanna Stanley Jones, Janisha Fonville,
  277. 17:50Kathryn Johnston, Kayla Moore,
  278. 17:52Michelle Cusseaux, Rekia Boyd,
  279. 17:55Shelly Frey, Tarika, Yvette Smith.
  280. 18:00AD: Say her name.
  281. 18:11KC: So I said at the beginning,
  282. 18:13if we can't see a problem,
  283. 18:17we can't fix a problem.
  284. 18:20Together, we've come together to bear witness
  285. 18:24to these women's lost lives.
  286. 18:27But the time now is to move
  287. 18:29from mourning and grief
  288. 18:32to action and transformation.
  289. 18:36This is something that we can do.
  290. 18:39It's up to us.
  291. 18:42Thank you for joining us.
  292. 18:44Thank you.
  293. 18:46(Applause)

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