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0:00they tell this to people I say we're
0:01America we have freedom in America we're
0:03not China China they tell you who to
0:04vote for they get one party in China not
0:06in America we get two can we at least
0:09have two I I think that this was
0:10important because I think we were
0:12teetering on making America like
0:15California and and and you don't want
0:17that Rob Schneider is a beloved American
0:19Entertainer comedian actor best known
0:21for his work on Saturday Night Live and
0:23dozens of comedies including 501 dates
0:25grown-ups and you don't mess with the
0:26Zohan Schneider is also the author of
0:28his latest book you can do it which
0:30shares Lessons Learned From Hollywood
0:32and makes the case for pushing the
0:33boundaries of free speech with comedy in
0:35today's episode we discuss his
0:36frustrations with the Democratic
0:38establishment in Hollywood why he left
0:39California and the upsides of being
0:41canceled Schneider also forecasts Trends
0:43in the comedy industry offers his
0:45diagnosis of the liberal establishment
0:46and encourages other entertainers to
0:48follow his lead as a Hollywood veteran
0:50and advocate of free speech Rob is on a
0:51mission to shape the future of his
0:53industry don't miss Rob Schneider's wit
0:55and wisdom in this latest episode of the
0:56Sunday special
0:59[Music]
1:08Rob Schneider it's great to see you here
1:09on the Sunday special thanks for the
1:10time thank you for having me I I have my
1:13uh smarty pants glasses on uh so that um
1:17I appear intelligent and and don't have
1:19the usual meltdown as your University
1:21students have when you tear them apart
1:24on the debate stage I appreciate that
1:26although I I don't know what Rachel mat
1:28will do without her her glasses now that
1:30you've got them so or without her
1:32ratings I saw the ratings go down about
1:3556% hard to believe you know people
1:38after a while of being called uh you
1:41know calling people racist and
1:42misogynist it runs its course for the
1:44for Their audience and the I think
1:46they're moving on to some other more
1:49more or less hateful program to watch
1:51you know I I didn't know that it was
1:52possible for one person to go down 56%
1:55like what is 56% of an individual if the
1:57ratings decline by 56% only only like
2:00lower half is watching MSNBC now their
2:02ratings were so low to begin with there
2:03wasn't much to do but you know that does
2:05speak to a sea change that's happening
2:07in public life you know obviously you've
2:09been in the comedy world for your entire
2:11career I've never seen a more hilarious
2:14time that has less people laughing about
2:16it than than right now like everything
2:18is absolutely hilarious but you're
2:20really not supposed to laugh at any of
2:21it well you have to laugh at it that's
2:24the thing about it I mean when you have
2:26um it's just so funny that they spent
2:281.2 billion dollars and they still lost
2:33I mean that is hilarious and you're
2:34finding out stuff that's a comedy if you
2:37were writing a script even in Hollywood
2:39you go I don't know if that's believable
2:41but supposedly supposedly Biden when he
2:44stepped down was was stepped down when
2:46he was forced to step down remember the
2:49the July 24th I'm the candidate and I'm
2:52not backing away and it says I support
2:54Camala Harris as the ne but supposedly
2:57he didn't have this the um
3:00support or the backing of the democratic
3:04um Elite to go ahead and and push that
3:08send button but he's not sending that
3:10anyway somebody on his staff is but
3:12somebody did send out I completely
3:15support Cala supposedly before the um
3:19Democratic intelligencia all got behind
3:22her and that's why supposedly another
3:25supposedly that's why Obama waited three
3:27days to see if they can kind of undo
3:29this when they realized they couldn't
3:31they made the fake phone call with
3:33Michelle and um supported Cala and does
3:37any of that bring true to you yes I mean
3:39so I think that they they tried to blame
3:40Biden twice over so they tried to blame
3:42him for not getting out earlier which is
3:43actually true there's no way he should
3:44have run and then they tried to blame
3:46him for not allowing them to have their
3:47little mini primary process which would
3:49have been rigged in Kay Harris's favor
3:51anyway because there was no way they
3:52could shove aside the black female
3:55intersectional hero in favor of like
3:57what the Jew Josh Shapiro in
3:59Pennsylvania or in favor of you know
4:01genderless Kendall Gavin Nome in
4:03California or JB pritzker who has to be
4:05lowered into the state capital by crane
4:07like who who exactly was going to be
4:08their
4:09candidate it was really funny when
4:11pritzker you know the governor of H
4:13Illinois would ever come out during Co
4:15and talk about health it's like no talk
4:17about what you don't talk about what you
4:19don't know Health talk about what you do
4:21know what kind of diabetes and heart
4:22pressure medication are you taking what
4:24belt do you have to keep your pants from
4:26falling down what what you know um
4:29you're right they were stuck in a in a
4:31in a you know in a really tough tough
4:33position they could never have passed
4:36over Cala because a woman you know with
4:39many ethnic you know many ethnicities
4:42and many accents God knows seeing her
4:44you know down south and also you know
4:47you gota you got save democracy and then
4:49seeing her in Pittsburgh let me tell you
4:51something you don't vote let let me know
4:53and then seeing him or seeing her at a
4:55at a 7-Eleven it's very important that
4:58we support democracy
5:00very very very important that we come
5:04from a middle class family B not like
5:06you I do so it was it seemed like she
5:10wasn't the most the best prepared person
5:13for this very important uh job of
5:15running for president well I mean that's
5:17one side of the hilarious coin the other
5:19side of the hilarious coin is just the
5:20fact that Donald Trump is a World's
5:22historical figure and that is in and of
5:24itself innately hilarious like if you
5:26had made a joke about that in 2002 and
5:28many people made jokes about sort of
5:30thing in 2002 it would have just been a
5:32joke and then it turns out that actually
5:33he is a world historically important
5:35figure Donald Trump with all the foibles
5:38with all the craziness with all of the
5:40hilarity that is attended upon him but
5:41you're not supposed to even laugh at him
5:43according to the left you're not allowed
5:44to laugh at KLA Harris because she's a
5:45magical person and you're not allowed to
5:47laugh at Donald Trump because he's
5:48Hitler and you can't laugh at Hitler you
5:49can't really make jokes about him the
5:51only thing you can make jokes about is
5:52that maybe he's Hitler but you can't
5:54just make jokes about the fact that
5:55Donald Trump is innately like he himself
5:57is a very funny person like he is a
5:59stand up comedian working a room when he
6:01says I'm going to be you know dictator
6:04but just on day one he's joking and then
6:07for them to run with it like he promised
6:09he's going to be dictator I mean when
6:11Robert Kennedy said a couple of days ago
6:13if he follows through and what he says
6:14he's going to do with with free speech
6:17and and with and hopefully getting rid
6:20of the the um uh you know the Department
6:22of
6:23Education he stands to be the most
6:25consequential president since Lincoln I
6:28mean isn't that an odd thing to not only
6:30to say not only to hear but to realize
6:33that that there's truth in it isn't it
6:35out is that it's unbeliev it's wild
6:38because again I think that because he
6:39shatters the image that so many people
6:41have of what the president is or quote
6:43unquote should be yeah they miss the
6:45fact that underneath all of the
6:46Showmanship is a very serious person who
6:49has very serious policies and who is
6:51bringing in an excellent team at this
6:53point and so it's this what I I start
6:55off by saying with you is just like all
6:57of this should be really really funny
6:58right I mean the fact that Donald Trump
6:59was at a McDonald's and that he has the
7:02the sort of you know he has the sort of
7:05self- knowledge to understand okay I'm
7:06not going to like put on jeans and a
7:08t-shirt and work mi I'm going to wear
7:09like a $2,000 suit and I'm going to wear
7:11my tie and then I'm just put on like an
7:13apron and serve people fries out the
7:14window and make some of the funniest
7:16images in the history of presidential
7:18politics I mean how many memes did you
7:20see of him waving out the window and it
7:21was like Donald Trump to illegal
7:23immigrants in 2026 right like that like
7:26that stuff is innately funny but if you
7:27make jokes about it on the left then
7:30they get angry at you because you're not
7:31supposed to laugh at the fact that
7:32Donald Trump's a funny person or that
7:34this whole thing is really funny you're
7:35supposed to be perturbed you're supposed
7:37to be upset you're supposed to be deeply
7:38angry who wants to live like that well
7:41the the beautiful thing was how fast and
7:44how confident he was in his moves I mean
7:47really the the the the race was over
7:49several weeks before and and when Biden
7:52said you only garbages his supporters
7:55and then trying to put an apostrophe to
7:57say no what it wasn't his supporters G
7:59the garbage office too late and for and
8:02then when Trump showed up in a garbage
8:04truck I knew that at that point he's got
8:06you he's got you he's so deep in their
8:09psyche so deep and then then you know
8:12that you know that because what it is
8:14you're right the policies they wouldn't
8:15even say the policies here you had
8:17somebody Cala Harris saying that she is
8:19the the you know the justice and the the
8:22you know the Attorney General of
8:23California she she's going to be the one
8:25who prosecutes uh you know these cross
8:28national uh terrorists and I mean or
8:31these gangs and yes she wouldn't even
8:32come out against Proposition 36 which is
8:35a very mild thing about shoplifting
8:38which you know if you look at the bill
8:39which I didn't until last night was it
8:42doesn't even say that you have to
8:43prosecute them it says that you that at
8:45least has to go to the you know the
8:48district attorney and the district
8:49attorney will have to decide but that's
8:51something and she couldn't even come out
8:53against that so she really had no
8:55policies so but the policies of the
8:57democratic party for the last four years
8:58was was two hard for the Americans to
9:00stomach now the policies of of trump are
9:04good and sound but the form for a lot of
9:08Americans was hard to stomach in the
9:10form of Donald Trump and how he um
9:12manages to uh to go the Democratic party
9:18and and and people in the middle and and
9:20I think people just got to get over it
9:21and I tell people I don't think there's
9:23such thing as conservatives anymore I to
9:25get people I said there's no such thing
9:26as conservatives there's just
9:28traditional Liber that aren't crazy and
9:31I and that seems to to get through to
9:33people and um and and I think that it's
9:36people are are coming back over to
9:38saying look this is somebody we want to
9:41fix the problem just like you have a
9:42plumbing problem and there's everywhere
9:45well then you know you need to get
9:47somebody you don't to have him staying
9:48for dinner and I said you know Donald
9:50Trump's not going to come to your bar
9:51mitzvah your son's Bar Mitzvah he
9:53certainly not going to come for
9:54Thanksgiving you don't have to invite
9:55him but he's going to clean up he's
9:57going to do that and you want him to do
9:59that's 100% right I mean that's exactly
10:01what I said I I did a debate with Sam
10:02Harris and that's exactly the analogy I
10:04Ed I like when I elect a politician I'm
10:06not electing a moral Exemplar I have
10:08plenty of people in my life who I Look
10:09to when I'm when I'm looking for you
10:11know moral ways to live if I'm looking
10:13for a piece of Life advice I'm not going
10:15to go to president Trump when when I
10:17when I when I want somebody to threaten
10:19Iran to back down then I go to president
10:22Trump when I want somebody who's going
10:23to make sure that the gas prices aren't
10:24too high by drilling more I go to
10:26president Trump when you as you say when
10:28you call a this whole bizarre notion
10:30that we're supposed to look at the
10:31president of the United States as though
10:33he's a great Angelic leader who descends
10:36from on high with a halo around his head
10:39we tried that with Barack Obama and it
10:40was terrible because he tried to embody
10:42all those qualities and it turns out
10:44that he was just as venal and corrupt
10:45and terrible as anybody in the history
10:47of American politics but you couldn't
10:48criticize him because he had the angel
10:50wings on and so Donald Trump just took
10:51all that stuff off he's like listen
10:52there ain't going to be no Halo ain't
10:54going to be no angel wings I'm here's my
10:56here's my tool set there's the toilet
10:58let let me add it I think that that
10:59that's actually like a pretty good way
11:00of doing government I think so too and
11:02it also it's a it's a way to communicate
11:04with people who seem to have a real
11:05problem with um with with the character
11:08over substance and with the person over
11:10policy and I think Americans are going
11:12to have to get over that and I think
11:13they were forced to get over it this
11:14time I mean I tell this to people I say
11:16we have people who who snuck in you know
11:19over the Border a couple of months ago
11:20they didn't want more people coming in
11:22they like hey I don't want somebody
11:23tried to take the job I just took I just
11:25took it an hour ago I need it come on
11:27man give me at least a couple of weeks
11:29so they lost the they lost the Mexican
11:32vote you know the Democrats I mean can
11:36you imagine how how fast they would have
11:37shut down the the Haitians from flying
11:38into Ohio if they knew they were going
11:40to vote for republicans and they would
11:43have said no more you know so um and it
11:46it just became it did become a great
11:49comedy it just became a comedy that was
11:50too close for most Americans to laugh at
11:53the fact that they were discussing
11:55eating cats in Ohio and the fact that
11:58that somehow Democrats were so offended
12:00by the the idea that these immigrants
12:03were being accused of eating pets well I
12:06was there in 1979 in San Francisco when
12:08the Vietnamese people came over and they
12:11saw they were eating the ducks in Golden
12:13Gate Park because nobody told them and
12:16that's what they eat they said they go
12:17fishing they also get Ducks if they see
12:19a duck that's a potential food and it
12:22just it's it had to be an education
12:24process they weren't doing it to like
12:26out of out of spite they're doing this
12:29out of lunch out of a necessity to have
12:31lunch they've got the sauce they they've
12:34got the rice Patty they're ready to go
12:36they've got the the thin noodles and um
12:39so I I I found it to be hilarious that
12:41people got so upset that they were
12:43accusing these Haitians whose part of
12:45their practice and their religion is
12:47animal sacrifice that they would be
12:49accused of this horrible thing also I
12:51mean like listen Donald Trump like his
12:52inflection is hilarious okay my my kids
12:55walk around the house going they're
12:56eating the dogs they're eating the cats
12:58I had my four old yesterday she has a
13:00shirt that says on it they're eating the
13:01dogs like it's just like it's It's
13:03innately the funniest thing like this
13:05whole race like from from just a comedic
13:07perspective this race is hysterical I
13:10said this right after the first Trump
13:11Biden debate I was talking to actually a
13:12foreign leader and the foreign leader
13:14was kind of freaking out I said you need
13:15to understand something about America
13:16here's how amazing America is in our
13:18institutions we will run two 80-year-old
13:20men against one another one of them will
13:21be totally scile whichever one of those
13:23two men golf's better we will make
13:25president of the United States he will
13:26be introduced at the rnz by Hulk who
13:29will tear open his shirt to reveal that
13:32he's supporting Donald Trump and then
13:34that presidential candidate will get up
13:35on stage and ramble for 93 straight
13:38minutes and you will love it because
13:39this is America you know what you're
13:41just going to have to eat it because
13:42this is America like everyone takes
13:44these elections as a sign that American
13:46weakness oh America and disrepair like
13:48you know how powerful we are you know
13:49how amazing our institutions are that
13:51that's what we could just do for like an
13:52entire election cycle and then at the
13:54end of it we're still the most powerful
13:55country on Earth and we got the most
13:56powerful military and don't screw with
13:58us but I will tell you though as I agree
14:00with you we become a worldwide wrestling
14:02uh you know Enterprise of entertainment
14:05at the same time we really were been and
14:07you would agree with this I would hope
14:09teetering on the abyss with this these
14:12you know Elites and um it's it's a
14:15strange aristocracy that seems to be
14:16taken over American society which
14:18instead of um you know a lord or Duke it
14:21was PhD and Elite and expert and these
14:24people who were telling us um basically
14:26who who we have to vote for who we need
14:29to vote for and and we really were you
14:31know once once you dig underneath and
14:33see some of the bad things that the the
14:35Biden Harris regime was doing was um I
14:39mean censorship and silencing Americans
14:42and their first amendment rights I mean
14:44that was pretty I mean I don't think
14:45that that's that's something to be taken
14:47lightly I think they really were in
14:49danger of moving us towards um to a
14:52truthfully a a one- party system like
14:55they have in California and I tell this
14:57to people I say we're America we're free
14:59in America we're not China China they
15:01tell you who to vote for they get one
15:02party in China not in America we get two
15:05can we at least have two and what the
15:07Democrats were really trying to do for
15:08the last four years I mean actually for
15:10the last I think 20 years was to have a
15:13forever Democrat Party and they said you
15:14can have free elections you can elect
15:16whoever whichever Democrat you want this
15:18one or this one and we'll have the and
15:20the Republicans of course the Cowardly
15:22uh Congress you know they're happy
15:24because 93% they they get elected they
15:27get reelected and so they they would
15:29like to lose gracefully and honorably
15:30and shake their finger at the but never
15:32have to actually do anything and so I
15:35think that this was important because I
15:36think we we're teetering on making
15:38America like California and and you
15:41don't want I totally agree I think we're
15:42both California exp Patriots right I
15:44spent my own entire life in California
15:46until the last four years we moved in
15:48the middle of Co and black lives matter
15:50riots and wildfires and and the rest of
15:51the biblical plagues we moved from there
15:53to the great free state of Florida
15:55you're in Arizona as I understand it
15:57which is a state that is increasingly
15:58turning red Donald Trump has turned it
16:00back from it was red it went kind of
16:02purpley blue and now it's turning back
16:04red again and some of that is Donald
16:06Trump and some of that is when you let
16:07in 10 million illegal immigrants across
16:08borders including Arizona's border that
16:10has some pretty dire effects on the
16:11State of Arizona you know what was it
16:13that caused you to leave California well
16:15I mean I knew that there was a a pincher
16:17move happening and and I as soon as
16:19Obama in
16:212013 propagandized or allowed the
16:24governmental agencies uh to to have
16:27propaganda in America against Americans
16:30in
16:312013 that was um the beginning of I felt
16:35tyranny coming from the left and I and I
16:38I always just assumed because of your
16:40I'm kind of brainwashed like everybody
16:41else in California you just assume it's
16:43the the left's always good and that the
16:45right is the problem and that if if
16:48problems do come if you know if there's
16:51uh fascism coming whatever that is
16:54depending on what the definition of the
16:55day is then it's going to come from the
16:57right and didn't because what happened
16:59was if you grew up in the late 70s and
17:01and if it was if the consequential um
17:04Power of the Democrats it would it was a
17:07mess under Jimmy Carter it just was and
17:09the thing is it there seemed to be an
17:11appeal that the Democrats had for the
17:14fellow man to help the average worker
17:16but what the truth is they will say they
17:19they'll be behind the average worker
17:21when they have no power but when they do
17:23have power they don't do anything Obama
17:25didn't do anything for the people and
17:27that's was such a real turnoff for a lot
17:29of people and people who thought there
17:30could be good you know good could come
17:32out of that Administration but it
17:34clearly didn't as far as you know uh
17:37taking the American public and the
17:39Goodwill that was given and instead of
17:42saying you know maybe we're less racist
17:43now uh because we elected a black
17:45president two times to exacerbate it and
17:47to um to further you know throw um
17:51gasoline on the flames and say you know
17:53this has never been just as Douglas
17:55Murray says just when race has never
17:58been better in America America they
17:59accuse it as never being worse so I
18:01think that was the time and then by the
18:03time Co came in I knew they're going to
18:04close Society down I knew that this was
18:06not the place to be I got young kids as
18:09well and uh I wanted to get them the
18:11hell out and I said you know because
18:12California is a dangerous place for um
18:14if you got little kids you know public
18:16school you know in the morning you take
18:17you know take in the morning you take
18:19your school and drop off a little girl
18:20in the afternoon you pick up a little
18:21boy you know so that's problem y I mean
18:24we were in California just a couple of
18:26weeks ago and right there on the street
18:28we we were we'd had dinner uh and with
18:30with a couple of friends who are still
18:32unfortunately trapped in California and
18:34we had dinner I have 247 security
18:36unfortunately I have to have that so I I
18:37went down the street one way with my
18:38wife my friends went down the street the
18:40other way they go about three cars down
18:42they're getting into their Tesla another
18:43car pulls up right in front of them
18:45three guys jump out grab my friend pull
18:46him out of his car steal his phone steal
18:48his wallet steal his keys run around to
18:49his wife start traping her jewelry off
18:51of her and uh and then she screamed and
18:54they realized their time had run and
18:55they they they ran away I mean it's just
18:56like open air robberies in California
18:58now the quality of life has declined so
19:00markedly from I thought you going to say
19:01and that was in a I thought you were G
19:03to say and that was in a gated exactly
19:05it was on Third Street was on Third
19:06Street and lasena right I mean we're not
19:08talking about like the worst areas of La
19:10here we're not talking about like you're
19:11in the the heart of East LA or in South
19:13Central which has now been retitled
19:14South La so that means it's okay now
19:16it's not like you're in kensaw or
19:17something like high crime areas of the
19:18city you're talking about like a fairly
19:20decent area of of of LA and and it's
19:23just been it's been totally trashed it's
19:25amazing what they've done to the state
19:26of California and that that caused me to
19:28go on the air the next day and say
19:29listen you know you think out there you
19:31in political land you think that Donald
19:33Trump he says offensive things and he
19:34says mean things and you don't like his
19:36tweets let say the the normal American
19:37you know what we care about we care
19:38about not getting robbed on the street
19:40we care about our gas prices going down
19:41we care about you know inflation not
19:43eating up our entire checkbook we care
19:45about mortgages going like we care about
19:47no Wars on like basic practical things
19:49are the things we care about and the
19:50worst you make it and then insist that
19:52actually we're stupid for for not
19:54understanding what you're doing the more
19:55we want to vote for the the other guy
19:57and the crazier he is kind of the more
19:58want vote for him a little
19:59bit I know when I hear when I heard
20:02Bruce Springsteen at a diner trying to
20:05be like an average guy looking like an
20:07average guy you know that knowing that
20:10he' sold his catalog for $800 million
20:12like 36 months ago you're not an average
20:15guy you are protected you know Oprah you
20:18live in a you you know not not only a
20:20gated community you live in the inside
20:22of the Gated gated community you know
20:24like in the old days that Jack Nicholson
20:26there' be at a party and then there's a
20:27VIP section then there's a P VIP and
20:29then there's one room the one guy in it
20:30is Jack Nicholson well this is the same
20:32with Oprah Oprah has her own spot and
20:34then like like because I lived up in
20:36Calabasas and we were in a gated
20:38community but then there was another
20:39part that was like Kim Kardashian she
20:41was in there that's another you couldn't
20:42get in there you know for you couldn't
20:44take your kids wouldn't allowed to do um
20:46you know trick-or-treating in Halloween
20:47over there at Kim Kardashians but the
20:49you know so um I I think that there was
20:53a just I hope that that the people who
20:56were trying to shame the celebrities
20:57trying to shame people people and scare
20:59people and say it's the end of democracy
21:02you may never get to vote again it was
21:03just so stupid and and it doesn't they
21:06they don't know what it's like I mean
21:07like when Jimmy Kimmel's crying about
21:08like you de you Trump support you guys
21:11voted you made a mistake too which is
21:14pathetic what a what a wuss he's turned
21:16into but the fact of the matter is we
21:18get two choices and we're going to
21:19choose somebody to dat and and I said
21:21this I said if avocados go up to you
21:23know if the food prices go up 26% it's
21:25not going to bother Jimmy Kimmel and his
21:27family or opa's family but the average
21:29person driving their kid to to school
21:31and then having to drive to work and
21:32then get groceries and having to think I
21:34don't know if I can do both this week
21:37and that's a real issue because and I
21:38said this if if avocado prices go up to
21:41$5,000 on Avocado you know I mean Oprah
21:44and Jimmy Kim just going to have $5,000
21:45guacamole yep that's exactly right get
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22:52with tax Network USA I want to ask you
22:54about sort of the impact that you think
22:56Hollywood has had on all of this because
22:57one of the things that think about the
22:58Trump phenomenon is that there's a lot
23:00of talk about the economic Outreach that
23:02Trump has done to Blue Collar
23:03communities and and kind of working
23:05people but you know when I go and I
23:07speak in these communities and I spent a
23:09lot of time on the road this election
23:10cycle going in talking everywhere from
23:11the southern border campaigning with
23:13with Senator Cruz to now Senator Senator
23:15Moreno up in Ohio all the way up to the
23:17the tip toop of Ohio you know and and
23:19the thing that that you see when when
23:21you do this is that it's it's really not
23:23about government subsidies it really
23:24isn't about you know a hatred of trade
23:26per what it really is is they're sick
23:28being told that their church is bad
23:30they're sick of being told that their
23:31culture is bad and so to me it seems
23:34like a lot of this is rebellion against
23:36the moral values that they see mostly
23:38coming from Hollywood a Hollywood that
23:40insists that the the morality of you
23:43know Moonlight is the morality that we
23:45all must that we all must you know love
23:47like the the the thing that we really
23:49need is a is a shape of water lecture
23:52about how capitalism is bad and about
23:54how about how traditional Church going
23:56is bad and I I think people just
23:58rebelled against that they said okay all
24:00you Schmucks are going to P did's white
24:01parties and then telling us that that
24:03we're bad for for having gone to church
24:05this Sunday like here's a giant middle
24:07finger it's really it's a giant orange
24:09middle finger just for you I feel like
24:11it's been the the the the the thing
24:12since about 2015 2016 well you have um a
24:16group of people and it it isn't um any
24:19coincidence that every every place that
24:21um the Democrats and Kamala Harris won
24:24had no voter ID I mean there there's no
24:27coincidence that that happened you have
24:29people that are getting tired of being
24:31told that they're racist when they're
24:32not racist you're getting tired of
24:34telling people that they that they are
24:36are are in a whether they know it or not
24:39they're in a system of white supremacy
24:41and just it just doesn't fly anymore you
24:43can't make people you can't tell them
24:45the're racist when they know they're not
24:47then you can't make them feel bad about
24:49that or or make them feel like and then
24:50Force things upon them and and this is
24:52something that we're still still kind of
24:55getting my hands on is this this kind of
24:57um lecturing when you know Oprah
25:01crapping on the on the average worker
25:03the average family who is struggling
25:05because they're not voting the way she
25:06wants this is the same system that
25:08allowed her to become a billionaire and
25:10unlike other countries like in England
25:11they don't root for people to become
25:13billionaires here we do if you become a
25:16billionaire you know we're going to
25:17applaud you you go girl because we know
25:19that this is a system that allows that
25:21potentiality and so for you to crap on
25:23it and to crap on people who are just
25:25trying to get by and just going month to
25:27month and paycheck to paycheck and
25:28that's getting harder and harder and you
25:30seem to think that there's other things
25:31more important than that and by
25:33exaggerating a situation which isn't
25:35true that that that Donald Trump is
25:37going to turn this into a dictatorship
25:39and in a fascist State uh I I think you
25:42the belittling was was just vomitous at
25:45a certain point um I think that if you
25:49look at where the Democrats have come
25:51and what they've tried to do and you
25:53just have to look at California as as
25:55the what they would like for the rest of
25:57the country there's not one aspect of
25:59our life that they don't want to
26:00interfere with not one in schools they
26:03passed you know Gavin Nome who um I just
26:07don't understand how people think that
26:11they that that the state of California
26:12thinks I'm going to co-parent with the
26:14state of California it's like no you're
26:16out you don't have nothing to do with it
26:18the fact that the teachers that they
26:19passed a law legislation that the school
26:21and the teachers could keep information
26:24away from the parents that to me was is
26:27Bor underline criminal I mean so and
26:31then you know they also had legislation
26:32didn't pass but was brought up in
26:34Committee in California to stop your car
26:37from that to to not have cars allowed in
26:39California to go more than 80 miles an
26:41hour and I don't know like Hey listen I
26:43don't want to drive 80 miles an hour in
26:44a school zone but if I'm trying to get
26:45to San Francisco uh from Los Angeles and
26:48it's three o'clock in the morning I'm
26:49gonna go 100 and if I get a ticket I'm
26:51sorry but um that's just it that's my
26:54choice maybe it's a bad choice but it's
26:56up to me and the government they just
26:58keep growing they also want to change
27:00your stoves tell you what kind of stove
27:02tell you what kind of car to drive at
27:04what point is said lay off of me we
27:06don't want a we don't want government to
27:08be that big and I think that they they
27:10finally the voters said enough with this
27:12enough with you calling me names enough
27:14with boys in you know failed
27:16narcissistic male athletes in girl
27:18Sports taking refuge in girl Sports
27:20enough of that so I think Americans
27:22rejected this soundly and I think what
27:25you're going to have if you take a look
27:26at history and I think you you might
27:27agree with this I definitely think you
27:29would hope for this the last time we had
27:31three one-term presidents if you go you
27:34know Ford well Nixon Ford Carter and
27:38then the last time we had that now we
27:40have you know
27:42Trump um you know Biden and then another
27:45Trump and he's that's why I think it's
27:47wonderful that he's not going to seek
27:48reelection or because he's gonna now
27:51have better people around him and put in
27:52policies where for his legacy I think
27:55you might get lucky here and we can have
27:56a trump Vance Vance and then you'd have
28:00a Democratic party that'll be able to
28:02come back to lose their extremists and
28:05realize if they want to be a a party
28:07that's going to get elected at the
28:09highest level they're going to have to
28:10come back from this crazy lunacy and uh
28:13and and do like what the you know with
28:14the Clinton Administration which was we
28:16are pro death penalty we're C super
28:20depends on what the definition of the
28:22word is is We on we were in the middle
28:24of the road you got to vote for us uh
28:27and I I'm hopeful that that's what's
28:28going to happen and that's what we need
28:30to happen stabilize America keep out the
28:32crazies and the Democrats come back to a
28:34place of normaly so you know I wanted to
28:36ask you about you know how things have
28:38gone for you in Hollywood since you
28:39become more overtly political so back in
28:412014 I wrote a book called Prime Time
28:43propaganda where I actually went and I
28:44spoke with the creators of pretty much
28:45every major television show over the
28:47last 50 years and some of it was pretty
28:49shocking because when I went and did
28:51these interviews uh I I asked them if I
28:53I wanted to write a book about the
28:54legacy of TV they didn't know who I was
28:56at the time I was not nearly as as well
28:57known as I am now I wore my Harvard Law
28:59baseball cap and my last name was
29:00Shapiro so they immediately assumed that
29:02I was basically a communist which in 90%
29:04of cases is actually true and and so I
29:07would I will tell you they took you too
29:10lightly and that's why you decimated
29:12them because they they didn't think that
29:15that um well first of all they're lazy
29:17in Hollywood they're all lazy and
29:19they're just intellectually lazy because
29:20nobody challenges them because that's
29:22the one of the reasons why Cala lost is
29:24that Cala never ran for federal office
29:26she just always was in California she
29:28was in that bubble so she was never
29:29challenged that's why they were so
29:31desperate to keep her from being
29:32challenged by anybody because she didn't
29:34have the goods so when you went there to
29:36California you had the goods you were
29:38prepared and you tore them apart and
29:40they just they're intellectually lazy in
29:42californ and as you saw thing is that
29:44they they weren't able to back in that
29:45particular case they didn't even so I
29:47recorded all these interviews and many
29:48of them in the interviews would openly
29:50say things like I won't hire a
29:51conservative if I find out that somebody
29:53is conservative in Hollywood I'll fire
29:54them I remember this created like a
29:55major Scandal actually at the Director's
29:57Guild because because one of the
29:58directors said this and and our friend
30:00lonel chln he he came out really firing
30:03over it and it was like it was a big
30:05deal at the time um you know there's
30:07always been this sort of you major issue
30:09inside of Hollywood can conservatives
30:11work can conservatives not work
30:12obviously I know people on both sides of
30:13that particular argument but you know
30:15they it certaintly makes it harder let's
30:17put it that way I mean people who have
30:18worked consistently you've worked
30:20consistently Patty Heaton's worked
30:21consistently but you know when i' I've
30:23talked to Patty about this I mean Patty
30:24said at one point she was working on a
30:26major Network show at the time she said
30:27listen I don't feel like I'm getting a
30:28lot of you know push back on my politics
30:30and then after I talked to her she
30:32called back maybe a few days later and
30:34she said I I called around I found out
30:35that over the years I've lost five
30:36specific jobs thanks to my politics so
30:39what do you make of the sort of
30:40anti-conservative
30:42discrimination Ben I'm out I'm don't get
30:44hired in Hollywood but there's some
30:46things more important than getting hired
30:47in Hollywood and that is uh I felt that
30:50we were close to having our our rights
30:54taken away and I was close I me when you
30:55have a when you have not just the
30:57president presidential candidate who
30:59maybe she doesn't know but you know I
31:01find it difficult for her to believe
31:02that she wouldn't know what our first
31:04amendment that is a guaranteed right and
31:06then you know Tim Walls paper who's
31:08ended up being such a gift to the
31:10Republican party that she chose him and
31:12not Shapiro um that that they would say
31:15that they would equate uh freedom of
31:17speech like a driver's license and they
31:19called it a privilege and that those
31:21priv a privilege can be revoked if you
31:23drink and drive you can um have your
31:26driver's license rightly taken away
31:28however if you drink and talk you cannot
31:31have your speech taken away because that
31:33is a guaranteed First Amendment right so
31:34it was that was part of the encroachment
31:36that was happening and I think that was
31:38down the line and I think when they were
31:40able to really work with um work with
31:44tech companies including Google we don't
31:46even know what they're doing with Google
31:47and cia's back door and how that is
31:49working but when you actually saw the
31:51Twitter files and thank God for Elon
31:53Musk but you know that that that the
31:55Biden Harris Administration was working
31:57through these companies I mean literally
31:59within 48 hours to uh silence Americans
32:03and they W they weren't going to stop
32:04that they would have I believe
32:06completely gone after Elon Musk and
32:08destroyed Twitter destroyed his business
32:10because that's what they do it's just
32:12government will keep growing until you
32:13beat it down with a stick and uh I think
32:16this was the beating that they needed I
32:18mean there's a very famous actor I won't
32:20say his name but he was a lead on Apple
32:22TV on a big TV series just this just
32:25this year you can people can figure out
32:27who it is if they want to
32:28he was told that he was not allowed to
32:30say anything on social media or they
32:32weren't going to hire him he was told
32:34that now that has to stop that is
32:37illegal and that is a lawsuit that is a
32:40billion dooll lawsuit that should happen
32:42but at the same time you want to get
32:43work you know every actor's out there
32:45trying to get work but here's what's
32:46happening you're having a shrinking of
32:48the traditional Studio system right now
32:50because they they've screwed it up they
32:53screwed up Hollywood Not only was during
32:55the pandemic but then the stupid idiots
32:58at the Screen Actors Guild Union and I
33:00was one of those idiots on the union but
33:02that going for a strike after the
33:04pandemic just to destroy the average
33:07person on the crew and the average actor
33:09it was beyond stupid and then Disney
33:12making this woke crap to the point where
33:14my wife and I we got little kids you
33:16know both were under 10 a couple years
33:18ago now we had to watch the Disney shows
33:22before we let the kids watch it just in
33:24case this woke crap that there isn't
33:26some character that that is you know
33:28indoctrinating our kids so they have
33:30lost they lost $2 billion dollar two
33:32years ago at the stream and then they
33:34had to fire a chap which was a good
33:36firing and then bring back Bob Iger so
33:39at a certain point are you going to do
33:40business or are you going to just
33:41continue to lose business and so you see
33:44you see the people who were able to look
33:45at the same stuff that you and I were if
33:47you're any have in whatever inside
33:49information it didn't have to be too
33:50inside but you saw that the Democrats
33:52were going to get spanked this time Jeff
33:54bezo saw it Mark Zuckerberg wanted to
33:55get out ahead of it as soon as he could
33:57and apologize for um for allowing his
34:01his site to be censored by the
34:03government and Jeff Bezos not supporting
34:06Kamala harros and giving her endorsement
34:08that's a big I mean so there is some
34:09correction happening and at this point
34:12the podcast is something and and
34:14independent people like you the daily
34:16wire the reason why you guys were able
34:18to become a big business successful
34:20business because you were you weren't
34:22trying to tell people how to think you
34:23were just providing another Viewpoint
34:26that was rational that was logical and
34:28that was more aligned with their
34:30families that's going to continue to
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34:33they're going to have to come over to
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36:06going to be easier for people who maybe
36:08middle of the road or leaning
36:09conservative to actually start coming
36:11out of the woodwork uh in Hollywood I
36:12mean you and I know a bunch of people I
36:14mean I know a lot of people in Hollywood
36:15who definitely voted for Donald Trump
36:17definitely would not say openly that
36:18they voted for Donald Trump for exactly
36:19the reasons you say that they'll they'll
36:21lose work these are working actors who
36:23and many of them very very famous and
36:25and are still terrified that if they
36:27ever betray their politics uh to to the
36:30to the people around them that that
36:31somehow this will have massive career
36:32ramifications do you think that's going
36:34to get easier or do you think that the
36:35system just continues to break because
36:36the people at the top can't let
36:38go I think it's going to take another
36:40generation it's just like when Moses
36:42took the to took the tribe out to the
36:45desert said we're gonna have to have
36:47you're gonna just have to get that slave
36:48mentality out of you I think it's the
36:51same thing with this with the with the
36:52Liberals and the Democrats they're going
36:53to have to get that constrictive I mean
36:56it's it's really what it is it's
36:58vindictiveness the left is absolutely
37:01crazy vindictive it is an ugliness and
37:03we've all experienced it and we've seen
37:05it they they would just they'll start
37:07yelling at you and it is as you know
37:09more than probably any American the
37:12worst form of debate is just somebody
37:13shouting you down they're not trying to
37:15beat you with ideas they're not trying
37:17to dissuade you with with something that
37:19could improve your foundational thinking
37:21they are not critical thinkers they just
37:23are simply yellers and we as a society
37:26cannot go down the road any further with
37:28trying to you know stop our liberties
37:30and our free speech to calm down the
37:33irrational and that's what the that's
37:34what they become will it get easier yes
37:37I mean but it's going to take people
37:38like I'm starting a media company and I
37:41can't believe how many people are
37:42joining in and are making this a real
37:45Media Company because I want to be a
37:46Centrist if you're a liberal if you're a
37:49you know conservative you are welcome
37:51and we are not going to do anything by
37:53the party line we're going to do stuff
37:54that's rational that's that's
37:56talent-based
37:57but it's also American based and you
38:00know that was such a pleasure to to do
38:02your your first series of your show of
38:05your first animated show because it was
38:07about America and it wasn't you weren't
38:09indoctrinating people but the fact that
38:11you're saying good things about America
38:13to liberals and to the Democratic party
38:15it was if you were saying something
38:17heretical to say something great about
38:19the country and our accomplishments so
38:22the attack on Western Civilization which
38:23I think is a bigger issue which is the
38:25Democrats make that gig gantic mistake
38:28of wanting this one world government
38:31this Elite this elitist system where
38:34they have control but they make the
38:36mistake of thinking it's going to be the
38:38American Democratic party that's going
38:39to be in control of this one world order
38:41and it's going to be China and that is a
38:43gigantic error on their part and
38:45thankfully I think this was a gigantic
38:49um you know it was a big fence to stop
38:53the further erosion of the American way
38:55of life and and having Marxism come in
38:58disguised as this woke set of nice
39:00manners when it's just communism dressed
39:03up uh as social justice and so obviously
39:06you've been doing comedy for decades at
39:08this point has there ever been such a
39:10fraught time in comedy I mean you see
39:11people like Dave Chappelle getting
39:12shouted down or you see you know Tony
39:14hinchcliff being made the centerpiece of
39:16the entire presidential campaign for the
39:17last week because he makes a bunch of
39:19Tony Hinchcliffe jokes at the at at
39:22Madison Square Garden and listen you can
39:24you can make the case I've made the case
39:25myself that you know maybe in the
39:27closing days of a campaign you don't
39:28want to trot out an insult comedian to
39:30to go after particular ethnic groups you
39:31know like at the very last moment of the
39:33campaign might not be like you're chief
39:35if you're like Chief political
39:36consultant for the Trump campaign you're
39:37not like okay you know we got to make a
39:38closing argument who could let's look
39:40around Tony Hinchcliffe come on down
39:42like that it's it's a weird move but
39:45let's bring the guy that craps on
39:46everybody exactly but but the sort of
39:47outsized outrage where it's like oh my
39:49God Tony hinchliff who does like insult
39:51comedy that's that's what he does I mean
39:53he roasts people that we're going to
39:54that oh my God he roasted more people
39:57I'm just I'm bewildered by the sort of
39:59argument that this is in and of itself a
40:01great horror well Tony made a mistake
40:03though in thinking that people knew
40:04about the past history and the garbage
40:07containers in Puerto Rico it's like you
40:11sometimes you could be too iner and but
40:13but Robert Kennedy called me said I
40:15don't why we should have had you come
40:17out last night you know there's 300,000
40:19Puerto Rican votes out there um but I
40:22don't think Tony I mean you don't want a
40:24comedian you don't want to do an own
40:25goal and that's what like Mark Cuban
40:27who's like this is not these are not
40:30people who need to be going out you need
40:31to have people who've been two three
40:33presidential you Carville never makes a
40:36mistake on on a grand level I mean yes
40:39he's not on a show that you know that of
40:42of other entrepreneurs that's very
40:44popular but Mark Cuban is is not
40:46qualified as as as someone that he's not
40:48disciplined enough to not make an own
40:50goal and that was it that was another
40:51one of the final own goals there was uh
40:54saying that Trump doesn't surround
40:56himself with intelligent women I mean
40:58that just goes right down the garbage
40:59and deplorable route so you um you know
41:04I think that uh I think people saw it
41:07really for what it was now um as far as
41:10comedy I think it will correct but I
41:12think it'll be a while I mean
41:14historically you'd have to really go
41:15back to where comedy was silenced
41:18probably dur after the Kennedy
41:20assassination you had one of the most
41:21prominent comedians Mort Saul and I talk
41:23about this in my book uh you can do it
41:26which is out now
41:28um we talk about comedy uh and and Mort
41:31Saul was after the warrant commission
41:34came out he questioned the rightly so
41:36the warrant commission's um findings and
41:40because of that uh that's that's where
41:42they you know it wasn't where the term
41:44conspiracy theorist originated but it
41:46was the first time that the CIA used it
41:48to as a road map to get to silence
41:51people who were going against the the
41:54then government narrative about the
41:55Warren report and people questioning the
41:57Kennedy assassination so that was a time
41:59where where comedy got silenced where do
42:02I think it's going now I think I
42:04remember Steve Martin talking um years
42:08ago like literally 40 years ago about
42:10what happened um after Watergate and
42:12after Vietnam people just wanted to get
42:15silly and forget about everything and I
42:17think after this time after the pandemic
42:20which was really I mean we don't we're
42:22not going to really know the
42:23ramifications what happened to the
42:25students who were locked down and you
42:27know for the African-American reading
42:29skills that took decades to get up to
42:32where they were on par with with
42:34everyone else and for that to collapse
42:37was was very sad for educators my mom
42:39was a school teacher for 30 years a
42:40public school teacher it's we don't know
42:42what's going to happen with it but I do
42:44think that now there is a chance that
42:47we'll be able to um have some normaly in
42:50comedy and people are going to have to
42:51attack the power I mean we're going to
42:53have to see what the Republic's going to
42:54do and then I don't know if I have an
42:55act anymore because my whole act the
42:56last a couple of years was just making
42:59fun of the wonderful material that was
43:01provided by Joe Biden Camala Harris and
43:03the rest of the Democrats so let's get
43:05to you know some of the stuff that you
43:06talk about in your book you can do it or
43:08I can't do an impression of you you can
43:10do it I can't it
43:13man but as you can do it speak your mind
43:15America which just came out recently you
43:17know so you sort of give over how how
43:19you got into this industry in the first
43:21place so how how do how does one go
43:23about becoming one of the most famous
43:25comedic actors of his generation well
43:27thank you um I just think that there's
43:30you I was very lucky because I was in
43:31San Francisco and they had we had a guy
43:33there Robin Williams who was so talented
43:35and I mean such a he was literally like
43:39uh um this bright shining you couldn't
43:42deny that Talent you know because we
43:45there were some other good comedians up
43:46there we go okay we're good but that guy
43:48is and so they plucked him Hollywood and
43:51then um they plucked the next guy who
43:53was another brilliant guy that made
43:55probably the best comedian ever come out
43:57of San Francisco was was Dana Carvey and
43:59then he got plucked out and got the
44:00Saturday Night Live and then um I guess
44:02I was I was up there too well maybe this
44:05guy and um but San Francisco was and
44:08that's what was very interesting about
44:10um a liberal City at that time a liberal
44:14city which wasn't in power because we
44:16were at that point sad because Los
44:18Angeles got all the you know the
44:20businesses moved I remember there was
44:22Planters peanuts moved from San
44:24Francisco to Los Angeles and the whole
44:26town was like no we're losing business
44:28they already have the weather they have
44:30the supermodels they got all the TV
44:31shows we have nothing up here we have
44:33the last place 49ers The Last Place San
44:35Francisco Giants so it was literally
44:37like a depression up there so at the
44:39time though that that that kind of
44:42downtrodden liberalism created a a very
44:46welcoming thing for for comedians who
44:48were trying to do something different as
44:49I was back in the early 80s late 70s and
44:53then we um we kind of came into
44:55something interesting where as you know
44:57there was an explosion of Comedy not
44:59that it was all great I mean Jerry
45:01Seinfeld talks about like Jerry Seinfeld
45:03says in
45:041975 there were 40 Comedians and eight
45:07of them were good in
45:101985 there were 4,000 Comedians and
45:13eight of them were good so I mean I I
45:17think that um Jay Leno took me aside and
45:19said you know why you need how much time
45:21you got kid I was driving him in my car
45:22to gigs when he would come to town how
45:25much time you got kid and I said I got a
45:27about you know 8 minutes good you know
45:29got 8 minutes I thought you know
45:30everybody said I got two hours of Comedy
45:32material you know who wants to hear two
45:33hours of Comedy material either have
45:35five minutes to kills every time
45:36everywhere you go or you have nothing so
45:38I spent the next eight months working on
45:40those five minutes and then eight months
45:41after that I was on David Letterman then
45:43I got an HBO so I mean David Spade uh
45:47Chris Rock Adam Sandler well maybe Chris
45:49Rock had more material but we basically
45:51had 20 really good minutes that was
45:53enough that's all you need who wants to
45:55hear more than that that's all you
45:55needed in LA and then uh you get on
45:58Saturday Night Live and it's like a
45:59rocket you don't even know what happened
46:01you have like one day you're completely
46:03unknown the next day you're you know
46:06buying milk in in a grocery store and
46:08people are doing your bits Ben the bener
46:11Bama all right B buying milk and then
46:14she she's like wow that I think they're
46:16doing me and that was just I just did
46:17that and then you get movies but there's
46:20no there's no real career guidance you
46:23know I mean I didn't know what to do or
46:24what not to do and um it was great the
46:28one great thing about being cancelled or
46:30whatever it's happened to me I got to go
46:32back and do what I started out doing
46:34which I I don't think I ever really
46:35finished was really craft you know
46:39coming up with a really good standup the
46:41craft of standup that's why I never
46:43wanted to do it because unless you're
46:44doing it full-time I mean you can't I
46:47mean Chris Rock was the one who talked
46:48me to go back into it Adam Sandler too
46:50but Chris Rock who was you know the
46:52great the greatest comedian of Our
46:54Generation and he said you know you got
46:55to go back and do it you could be the
46:57best at this um you know and I said I
47:00don't even know what we talk about just
47:01talk about what we talk about every
47:02morning because we were doing grown-ups
47:04at the time and then um I took him up on
47:06it and he was a real good good supporter
47:09and he doesn't align with me politically
47:12but we know good jokes when we hear them
47:15and then um I really freed me because
47:17the interesting thing is when they try
47:19to cancel you it is a really interesting
47:22thing I don't know how else to describe
47:23it but like it's when they do go after
47:26you and they go after your pocketbook in
47:27your family and you think you may never
47:29work again it remind me of what um Alan
47:32Watts talks about the Great British
47:35philosopher um he said there was
47:38Japanese pilot who was um kamakazi pilot
47:43that's crashing his plane and this was
47:45it and he's going to crash his plane and
47:47so he said he knew he was going to die
47:49and the release that happened by the
47:51time uh it was all over with he said I
47:54what what was I ever worrying about
47:55anything in life it's all over with
47:56doesn't matter any of but he said that
47:58rush for freedom and then his wing got
48:00blown off and then he spun spun spun
48:02spun and landed in the ocean and
48:04survived and he went on to become a Zen
48:06Buddhist monk and to relay these stories
48:09and that idea of uh zazan he call it so
48:12in in a much much much smaller way I did
48:15feel like when they try to cancel you
48:17and you survive you do get emboldened
48:20and you go well what do I really want to
48:21do what do I really want to say and I'm
48:23not going to be fearful anymore and so
48:26if if I've helped people be slightly
48:28less fearful if I was able to be a voice
48:30for people who didn't feel like they
48:32could critique Hollywood you know
48:35because I said I said you know early I
48:36said you know when Hillary lost I said I
48:38haven't seen the Democrats just pissed
48:39off since we freed the slaves and that
48:41went boom a while and then and then um
48:45you know when when when Nome wasn't when
48:49they tried to get rid of him when they
48:51tried to recall Nome and it was so
48:53pathetically sad because like here's a
48:54chance let's vote him out but then it's
48:57just like an abused spouse you know Ben
49:00they finally get I'm not taking this
49:01anymore I'm calling the cops on you and
49:03by the time they call the woman calls
49:05the police and then by the time the
49:06police come stay away from my husband I
49:08love he loved me I love him there was
49:11something that happened and so that's
49:12why they got reelected again and I said
49:14this I said I said Californians would
49:17vote for a bowl of if it had a d next to
49:20it and then that you know I guess that
49:22put the final nail on my uh Hollywood
49:25career so yeah obviously you you have
49:27the book you have this Media Company
49:29you're starting so what are the big
49:29projects that you're looking forward to
49:30doing now well I'm going to work with um
49:33a really terrific broadcaster uh from
49:35England Andrew Doyle who I know did you
49:38know Andrew Doyle from GB news he's
49:40coming over his partner uh producing
49:43partner for for GB news is also coming
49:46over Martin guray and then the best
49:48comedy writer in England I don't know he
49:50wants me to say his name now but uh he's
49:53going to be coming over uh Graham lenam
49:55I'm just GNA say it Graham you're gonna
49:57have to deal with it and he's one of the
49:59best writers uh I mean baa winning best
50:02comedy writer he is the best comedy
50:03writer in England and so we're going to
50:05start shows here uh in Arizona and I
50:08think we're going to do and and I think
50:10what's going to have to happen in the
50:11studios Independent Producers are the
50:13ones are going to be taking the risks
50:15and providing content uh for content for
50:17people that that people are going to
50:18want to watch content that's for
50:20everybody that isn't trying to you know
50:24in indoctrinate people with this woke
50:26nonsense so that's that's it you know in
50:29a nutshell and um I will say that the
50:32the standup tour has been really
50:34educational and fun because that's the
50:36truth the audience will tell you the
50:37truth what they laugh at and um it was
50:40nice to see this happen because honestly
50:42Ben traveling around the country as I'm
50:44sure you have too there was a stress
50:46level that I've never seen in Americans
50:49I felt there was they were about ready
50:50to crack I felt they were so worried and
50:53I I feel a real sense of of uh I
50:56wouldn't say Joy I would say a sense of
50:59relief uh just
51:02a thank goodness and and that's the kind
51:05of when you try to scare people for
51:07years and try to make them feel bad try
51:09to call them racist white supremacist
51:12try to make them disparage them and call
51:15them garbage and deplorable and that
51:17their their women aren't intelligent or
51:19smart it does it beats them down and
51:21this was a real rejection of that um
51:25narcissistic name calling and and
51:27hopefully the Democrats will or maybe
51:29they won't hopefully they won't wake up
51:31to it and they'll keep
51:32losing what are your thoughts about yeah
51:34I mean I think that it's going to take a
51:35little while in the wilderness you're
51:37starting to see this battle play out now
51:39where the heads of the democratic party
51:41who obviously have a stake in saying
51:42that did nothing wrong are fighting some
51:43of the people who have been outside and
51:45so it's almost a a tripartite battle you
51:47have sort of the establishment of the
51:48democratic party which feels that it did
51:50a great job and then they are split
51:52between the wokeist and the people who
51:54kind of want to do the carvan reset the
51:56sort of Democratic Leadership Council
51:57Circa 1990 reset where they figure out
52:00what they did wrong it's going to take a
52:01while for them to Hash that out
52:02especially because they don't have sort
52:04of a charismatic leader to to fill in
52:06all the gaps for them I think the nature
52:09on the Republican side by the way is
52:10that there there is the possibility of
52:13of Republicans and conservatives and and
52:15everybody who's part of the Trump
52:16Coalition thinking that the referendum
52:18wasn't about trump it was sort of a
52:20justification of everything Republicans
52:21have ever said I think you see this
52:23usually in Party politics where Obama
52:25was a unique political figure everybody
52:26on the left sort of assumed that because
52:29he was popular that meant everything
52:30they were doing was popular and it
52:31turned out that wasn't true at all and I
52:33think the right you could see something
52:34pretty similar where it turns out that
52:35Trump has a unique draw he's unique
52:37character in American life and that
52:39that's not actually quite duplicable
52:40that you can't just shove anybody else
52:42into that seat and then magically get
52:44the same sort of response from the
52:45American public you're not going to get
52:46low propensity voters to show up for you
52:48know JD Vance or Marco Ruby or whomever
52:50else and that's going to be a new
52:51challenge you're G have to have somebody
52:53arrested 37 times or 37 convictions
52:57felony felony felony New York City
52:59convictions by an impartial
53:01democratically insane jury and then
53:04you're going to have to have those seven
53:05convictions and then you're gonna have
53:06to have somebody who's almost murdered
53:08in public and then and that was that
53:11that was the thing like why what the
53:13Republicans really need to do is is to
53:14focus in and do the job that they've
53:17been asked to do and that's gonna have
53:19to do that I mean they're gonna have to
53:20like the the FBI when they're asked at
53:23the Congressional hearing um were there
53:26any
53:27FBI dressed up as Trump supporters
53:29inciting and inviting people into
53:30capital and he said I'm not allowed to
53:32give out that information the answer is
53:34no you know Jimmy Doris says you know
53:38you got to say no that didn't happen or
53:40it did happen so these guys get get
53:42cleaned out he was one of the guys the
53:44head of the FBI he's the one of the guys
53:46said like well we don't know if he was
53:47really shot it could have been a piece
53:48of strap nail it's like why even make
53:51that crazy statement so you you really
53:54have these entrenched this guy was a was
53:56appointed by by Trump so you really have
53:59an entrenched group of people who don't
54:02seem to have uh a grasp on what the
54:06average American wants what the the
54:08average American's life is like and I
54:11think that's got to get cleaned up I
54:12mean if he says you know Trump said he's
54:14going to get rid of the Department of
54:15Education I think that is a
54:17phenomenal phenomenally important first
54:20gesture for many reasons because one
54:22thing 133% of the public of of the of
54:25public schools is founded by the FED
54:26feds now they wanted to increase that if
54:29Biden Harris this is one of the things
54:30that um moms for Liberty educated me
54:33about Tiffany Justice they wanted to
54:36increase that to 26% if that increase
54:39Ben would have happened that means the
54:41local school boards would have been
54:42irrelevant because then everything would
54:44have gone from the federal and then
54:46you're not going to have States uh you
54:49you're not GNA have the states being
54:51able to decide what their education is
54:52what the school boards are going to
54:54decide what the parents want to decide
54:55so that I mean this was a critical
54:57turning point I do think that this this
55:00election is going to turn out to be one
55:02of the most critical turning points in
55:03American history and I don't say that
55:05lightly and I don't want to say that but
55:07it's just factual it is true what was
55:10potentially tipping if they would have
55:12let in 11 million more people if they
55:14were able to flood Florida so that fla
55:16even Florida and then Texas and then
55:18then Ohio so that there we wouldn't get
55:21a choice next time we really were on on
55:23a razer's edge tipping and I I do think
55:25that that was a avoided and avoided by
55:27the American people totally agree well
55:29Rob Schneider it's been great to see you
55:31can't wait to see what you do next
55:32really thanks for taking the time thank
55:34you very much and I I wish you have been
55:36a hero for me and you've have actually
55:39you know has helped a lot of us to uh to
55:42to to communicate better and to be more
55:44specific and precise and you really led
55:47the charge there was nobody doing what
55:48you were doing and you really are if you
55:50look at anybody who's who's out there in
55:52the Public Square talking about
55:53conservative values and being able to
55:55back them up was you started that so
55:57thank you for that very sweet you really
55:59appreciate it great to see
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