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The Ultimate Super Shoe Tier List (40 Chinese and Western Competitors) — Transcript

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  1. 0:00All right, today we're going to be doing
  2. 0:01a tier list of every single super shoe
  3. 0:03that I've tried from both the western
  4. 0:04and Chinese markets. I've tried a lot of
  5. 0:06super shoes. Honestly, I think I would
  6. 0:08have one of the more diverse collections
  7. 0:10uh in general. So, I'm pretty keen to
  8. 0:12share my experience, give you a bit of a
  9. 0:14ranking of each of the shoes based on
  10. 0:16their raw performance. We're going to
  11. 0:17try to take away the price point
  12. 0:19arguments, the value arguments today,
  13. 0:21and just make it all about how good
  14. 0:23these shoes feel and whether they feel
  15. 0:25like they're going to give you that leg
  16. 0:26up, that kind of assistance for your
  17. 0:29races. I've got S through to D tier
  18. 0:31here. We've taken away E and F. I've
  19. 0:33expanded out A and B because I
  20. 0:35anticipate there being a lot of shoes
  21. 0:36which are sitting in that general area.
  22. 0:38And we're going to go through bring out
  23. 0:40these uh super shoes blind. So, I'm not
  24. 0:42actually going to know the order and
  25. 0:43we're just going to rank them. Yeah. off
  26. 0:45the dome, give you my impressions, and
  27. 0:48yeah, hopefully that should be
  28. 0:50interesting. Quick run through of what I
  29. 0:51think each of the tiers mean. S tier is
  30. 0:53like next level. It's like, you know,
  31. 0:55pretty much perfect, big booming ride,
  32. 0:57something that really feels like it
  33. 0:59unlocks a next level of performance.
  34. 1:01Easy example would be something like a
  35. 1:02fast. A tier is like top tier. You know,
  36. 1:06you've kind of reached the level where
  37. 1:07everyone respects you um and you can
  38. 1:10kind of expect to get a good race out of
  39. 1:12it. Um, but maybe it doesn't have that
  40. 1:14next gear that the S tier does. B tier
  41. 1:16is probably leaning more into the
  42. 1:18comfort side of things. Maybe it's a bit
  43. 1:19more stable. Maybe it has a little bit
  44. 1:21of extra weight. Easy example of a Btier
  45. 1:23super shoe would be an Endorphin Pro 4.
  46. 1:26Ctier, we're looking at something which
  47. 1:28is only just better than a speed
  48. 1:29trainer. So maybe it has full super
  49. 1:31foam, but it's not the best super foam.
  50. 1:33Maybe it's a little bit clunky, a little
  51. 1:35bit heavy. Um, but you know, it's still
  52. 1:37going to offer something which is nicer
  53. 1:39than a Boston 12 or 13, I guess. And
  54. 1:42then D tier is, you know, pretty much
  55. 1:44equivalent to a speed trainer. Not
  56. 1:46really sure why would you why you would
  57. 1:48buy it for a racing shoe. Uh that's
  58. 1:50pretty much all we need to explain.
  59. 1:52Let's get into it. Uh I think my screen
  60. 1:54recording has started
  61. 1:57now. Starting off, Hocus Yellow X1 3.0.
  62. 2:02This is going straight into a tier for
  63. 2:04me. Really caught me by surprise. I
  64. 2:06didn't think People Foam could feel that
  65. 2:07good in 2026, but I think the way that
  66. 2:09they've timed a pretty aggressive rocker
  67. 2:11with that soft compression makes for a
  68. 2:14really nice half marathon marathon
  69. 2:15focused uh experience. I do think it's
  70. 2:18maybe a little bit mushy for 5 and 10k
  71. 2:20pace, but for people who just want a
  72. 2:22smooth, protective, bouncy racing shoe,
  73. 2:25it's really, really good. Uh the fit was
  74. 2:27good as well, so no issues there. Clo
  75. 2:29x1, that's easy in the A tier for me.
  76. 2:32Next up, Adios Pro 4. Uh, yep. This
  77. 2:36would be another A tier shoe. It's been
  78. 2:38in the A tier for a long time. Really
  79. 2:40well respected. It's got that nice kind
  80. 2:42of rubbery rebound from the Light Strike
  81. 2:44Pro. It's not perfect. Um, I do have
  82. 2:46some upper issues with that one. Uh, and
  83. 2:48the fit is a little bit short, so that
  84. 2:51kind of got a few customers off. But in
  85. 2:53terms of the actual raw performance,
  86. 2:55yeah, this is an easy A tier. I don't
  87. 2:57think I would put it any lower. Next
  88. 3:00one. All right. First Chinese shoe. 361
  89. 3:03degrees. Furious Future 1 or 1.5 if you
  90. 3:06want to be really fussy. This is
  91. 3:08technically an older version of the
  92. 3:10Furious uh Future. There is the second
  93. 3:12version now, but you can still find
  94. 3:14these pretty reliably on Tao Ali
  95. 3:16Express, so I thought I'd still include
  96. 3:18it. This is another A tier. This has got
  97. 3:20a really punchy, propulsive, snappy
  98. 3:23feel. It's got a kind of ride which
  99. 3:25feels like a blend between a Fast R3 and
  100. 3:28a Vaporfly. So, it doesn't have that
  101. 3:30kind of really focused uh long kind of
  102. 3:34levering feeling through the toe off
  103. 3:36like the Fast R3 does, but it does have
  104. 3:38that kind of segmented feel where you
  105. 3:39can focus on the foroot compression and
  106. 3:41then the foam is like a kind of firmer
  107. 3:43version of ZoomX. It's light, it's
  108. 3:45punchy, it's quite snappy. Um, I would
  109. 3:47definitely put this in the A tier. Um,
  110. 3:50it's probably more suited to 510k pace.
  111. 3:52Uh, a bit more aggressive. Not going to
  112. 3:54be quite as comfortable as like an Adios
  113. 3:56Pro. um which you know I think is a
  114. 3:59little bit more protective and rubbery
  115. 4:01and it's kind of got that gooey
  116. 4:02sensation to it. Um but I do think it
  117. 4:05has that raw performance aspect which if
  118. 4:08you're on fresh legs I think will be a
  119. 4:10lot of fun. Next up, Vaporfly 4. I'm
  120. 4:14going to put this in a B tier now, but I
  121. 4:17do enjoy it a lot and I've kind of come
  122. 4:19around to it a fair bit more the more
  123. 4:21that I've used it. hasn't really grabbed
  124. 4:23me um a whole lot compared to other
  125. 4:26super shoes which are getting, you know,
  126. 4:27more and more engaging, more and more
  127. 4:29propulsive, but it's really solid. It's
  128. 4:31light, it's snappy. Um it turns over
  129. 4:33really well for 5 and 10k pace for me,
  130. 4:35but it definitely doesn't have that kind
  131. 4:37of next level bounce, which we're
  132. 4:38getting from the A tier. And so for
  133. 4:41that, I think I probably put it in B.
  134. 4:43I'll be interested to see how they go
  135. 4:45about updating this shoe. Like, you
  136. 4:47know, they've kind of exhausted all they
  137. 4:48can do with ZoomX as far as I'm
  138. 4:50concerned. Do they need to bring in a
  139. 4:52new type of foam? Do they need to move
  140. 4:54away from pea into ATBU or something
  141. 4:57that can get even lighter? Cuz right
  142. 4:59now, you know, they've stripped down the
  143. 5:00stackite, they've stripped down the
  144. 5:01weight, there's not a whole lot more
  145. 5:03midsole that you can carve away before
  146. 5:04it becomes pretty much a streak fly. Um,
  147. 5:07so I will be interested to see how that
  148. 5:09goes. Next up, uh, Saky Endorphin Elite
  149. 5:132. Uh, this is going to go
  150. 5:17Oh, I'm going to say I'm going to be
  151. 5:19brutal. I'm going to say B tier, but top
  152. 5:23end of B tier. We'll swap it with the
  153. 5:25Vaporfly only because I just felt like
  154. 5:27it was a little bit mushy. It works well
  155. 5:31once you learn how to run in it, but I
  156. 5:34couldn't help but feel that it was a
  157. 5:35little bit disjointed, pretty unstable.
  158. 5:38Uh, and especially if you're trying to
  159. 5:39rip, you know, 5 or 10k pace, the timing
  160. 5:42of the rebound just didn't really suit
  161. 5:44that for me. I felt like every time I
  162. 5:46punched down into the midsole, I spent
  163. 5:47so much time compressing with how
  164. 5:49squishy it was that by the time I
  165. 5:51actually tried to kind of push off the
  166. 5:53ground and get back out of the stride,
  167. 5:55the shoe wasn't really ready for that
  168. 5:56yet. So, I really had to adjust my
  169. 5:58stride a whole lot to the point where it
  170. 5:59felt a little bit disjointed, a little
  171. 6:01bit unnatural. And so, for me, I'm going
  172. 6:03to be brutal here. Going to put that in
  173. 6:04the B tier. Although, I know that it is,
  174. 6:06you know, pretty well loved by a lot of
  175. 6:08people who like that kind of soft feel.
  176. 6:10Next up, I've got the We got Alpha Fly
  177. 6:133. Uh, this is going to be
  178. 6:17I I think it's going to have to go into
  179. 6:20the A tier, but I'm going to put it back
  180. 6:23end of a tier, bottom row, maybe. Um,
  181. 6:26and the reason for that is I just think
  182. 6:28it's a little bit clunky. Um, I know
  183. 6:29it's propulsive and I know that it's
  184. 6:32really assistive, but I think in this
  185. 6:34modern age with fantastic smooth,
  186. 6:37bouncy, soft super foams, there's ways
  187. 6:39that you can get that propulsion from
  188. 6:41the forefoot without putting a pretty
  189. 6:44firm, hard, sometimes clunky air unit in
  190. 6:47and you can save some extra weight. So,
  191. 6:49for me, it's still got that kind of, you
  192. 6:51know, booming marathon ride, but I just
  193. 6:54do think we would expect something a
  194. 6:56little bit smoother, a little bit more
  195. 6:59kind of continuous in feel to really get
  196. 7:01us up into that top end of A tier and
  197. 7:04even think about S tier. I will be again
  198. 7:06interested to see what Nike do with
  199. 7:08this. I feel like they've exhausted all
  200. 7:10of that the uh Air Zoom pod can give us.
  201. 7:12Whether they start to experiment with
  202. 7:14different materials, maybe a foam puck
  203. 7:16in the forefoot instead of the Air Zoom,
  204. 7:19um I do think they're going to need to
  205. 7:20change things up if they want to stay in
  206. 7:22that A tier because a lot of these other
  207. 7:24super shoes are getting really, really
  208. 7:26good. Next up, another Chinese one.
  209. 7:28We've got the Doughwin PB Pro. This is
  210. 7:31going straight in S tier. This is very
  211. 7:34nearly an Adios Pro Evo one. So, it's
  212. 7:37got that same uncompressed midsole foam,
  213. 7:40the stuff which feels furry to the touch
  214. 7:42cuz they cut it from a big block of foam
  215. 7:44rather than compressing it down from a
  216. 7:46larger one. Uh, and it is fantastic.
  217. 7:49It's smooth. It's light. Uh, it's got
  218. 7:52this kind of rubbery rebound which just
  219. 7:54keeps on coming back. Doesn't
  220. 7:55necessarily feel as kind of squishy and
  221. 7:58bouncy as some of these other super
  222. 8:00shoes. Like, I think if someone ran
  223. 8:02around the store in the Clo X1 3.0, know
  224. 8:05they would probably say this feels gooer
  225. 8:07and bouncier and more kind of
  226. 8:09protective, but in terms of the
  227. 8:11efficiency and the kind of smoothness
  228. 8:13and the consistency of the ride, this
  229. 8:16just keeps on coming back. I've had so
  230. 8:18many runs which go so well in this shoe.
  231. 8:20I'm actually kind of sad that I haven't
  232. 8:21raced in it yet, but I've also seen
  233. 8:23pictures of the PB Pro 2, so I'm kind of
  234. 8:26holding out for that one to get that
  235. 8:28into a race. This is a really, really
  236. 8:30good shoe. Obviously, I'm not factoring
  237. 8:32price point here. This is just
  238. 8:33performance, but you can also pick it up
  239. 8:35for about $250 Australian, which is
  240. 8:37insanely good for a shoe, which is
  241. 8:40pretty much giving you that Evo Pro one
  242. 8:42experience. And I've tried on an Evo
  243. 8:43Pro, so I know what it feels like, and
  244. 8:45it feels very, very similar to the PB
  245. 8:47Pro. Only thing I would say is that the
  246. 8:49PB Pro has maybe a slightly more uh
  247. 8:53subdued rocker or slightly more gentle
  248. 8:55rocker off the front of the shoe. So, S
  249. 8:57tier, first S tier here for the PB Pro
  250. 8:59from Dough Win. Really, really good
  251. 9:01shoe. Next up, Chowdown Fang Played
  252. 9:05three. This is going uh A tier. Um I
  253. 9:08would say, yeah, A tier. Let's put it
  254. 9:10top rung for now. This is a really
  255. 9:13protective marathon racing shoe. One for
  256. 9:15the people. I think it's one that
  257. 9:16everyone can enjoy. Faster people, I
  258. 9:18think, can still get a good bit of uh
  259. 9:20propulsion out of the forefoot. Uh and
  260. 9:22then more kind of steady marathoners,
  261. 9:24people who are looking for a bit more
  262. 9:25comfort. You got a lot of foam there
  263. 9:27underf foot which is giving you that
  264. 9:29kind of vibration dampening, that kind
  265. 9:31of smoothness. It's got a good leg
  266. 9:32saving feel to it. Um, I've had a really
  267. 9:34good time in it. I think it is in a very
  268. 9:36similar kind of space as a Cello and the
  269. 9:38Adios Pro in terms of that uh depth of
  270. 9:41cushioning. Um, it's certainly not the
  271. 9:43kind of quickest turnover. Doesn't have
  272. 9:44the sharpest rocker. More of a smooth
  273. 9:46drawn out transition. But I really
  274. 9:48enjoyed it. I think it's a good shoe.
  275. 9:49Good fit. Um, not much to complain
  276. 9:51about. All right. Next up, we have the
  277. 9:55361° Mirror Nude 2. Now, I've only done
  278. 9:58strides in this one, so this is a little
  279. 9:59bit of a guess, but I think this is
  280. 10:01pretty easily going to be in the A tier,
  281. 10:03probably threatening um the S tier, I
  282. 10:06reckon, by the time I get it broken in
  283. 10:08and kind of get a feel for it. Um, but
  284. 10:10it's a hypers shoe. It's super light,
  285. 10:12super critical pea. Not much to not
  286. 10:14like, honestly. It has a bit of that
  287. 10:17wave uh not wave, hyperwarp pure feel
  288. 10:20about it. very light, very smooth and
  289. 10:22efficient one that just disappears on
  290. 10:24foot. I love hypers shoes and this is a
  291. 10:27good hypershoe and I think it's going to
  292. 10:29have a little bit more durability than
  293. 10:31the old version which is quite important
  294. 10:32cuz that one fell apart in like 25ks for
  295. 10:36me. So I think this one here is going to
  296. 10:38be a little bit more hardy uh which
  297. 10:40should have a threatening S tier but for
  298. 10:42now with only you know a couple strides
  299. 10:45done in it I think it's only fair to put
  300. 10:47it in the top end of A tier but very
  301. 10:49very light. I think it's like
  302. 10:52150 160 g in my men's size 10 and a half
  303. 10:54which is really solid. All right, Be My
  304. 10:58Carbon Fly 2. Okay, I did a review on
  305. 11:00this one recently. Wasn't that
  306. 11:02enthusiastic about it. This is going to
  307. 11:04be our first C tier. It is an elevated
  308. 11:08experience over a speed trainer. Full
  309. 11:10beaded ATPU phone which is pretty
  310. 11:12propulsive, very stable, uh, and is
  311. 11:15going to be quite durable. So, there is
  312. 11:16that. But in terms of the geometry, they
  313. 11:19didn't do a great job of giving it
  314. 11:21enough towe off to compensate for the
  315. 11:23stiffness of the plate and the stiffness
  316. 11:25of the foam. So, it did end up feeling
  317. 11:27like a little bit too much work to get
  318. 11:29it to transition. I think it' probably
  319. 11:30benefit from a little bit more force.
  320. 11:32Like, I'm 79 kilos. I'm not the lightest
  321. 11:35bloke out there, but I do think if you
  322. 11:37had even a bit more weight um and a
  323. 11:39little bit more force behind you, you
  324. 11:41could probably open the midsole up and
  325. 11:42get the transition to work. But for most
  326. 11:44people, I think this is maybe a stable
  327. 11:46training option, maybe a stable marathon
  328. 11:48option, but it's just not that
  329. 11:51forgiving, which does put it in a bit of
  330. 11:53a weird spot. Next up, uh I've included
  331. 11:56the Shaan uh fang played one. Uh
  332. 11:59obviously I've got the [snorts] three
  333. 12:00here. The two is not to be seen. I
  334. 12:02didn't really get along with that one.
  335. 12:04I'd probably put it in B tier. Um, the
  336. 12:07Played One I think still deserves to be
  337. 12:09in A tier, but I would probably put it
  338. 12:11on the bottom end uh alongside the
  339. 12:14Alphalely for now. It's got a really
  340. 12:16smooth marshmallowy uh kind of
  341. 12:18propulsion to it. It's reasonably
  342. 12:20stable. One of the broadest carbon
  343. 12:21plates that I've ever seen. Like, it's
  344. 12:24[snorts] about that wide through the
  345. 12:25foreoot. It really does have a lot of
  346. 12:27surface area to it. And so, I've used
  347. 12:28that for long runs, for marathon
  348. 12:31workouts, and it's just so protective.
  349. 12:34late stage rocker seemed to work quite
  350. 12:35nicely for me, especially with a bit of
  351. 12:36a foroot strike. The upper was a little
  352. 12:39bit tricky with the um lacing setup,
  353. 12:42little bit slippery through the heel
  354. 12:43counter, but once you work that out, it
  355. 12:45was a really really fun shoe. I think
  356. 12:47it's still relevant now even I think
  357. 12:49it's 3 or 4 years old. Um which is yeah,
  358. 12:52testament to Chowdown. They've been
  359. 12:54doing it for a good bit of time. It's
  360. 12:56got a TPE foam as well, which I should
  361. 12:58mention. Um, it does feel well, it kind
  362. 13:00of feels like an Adios Pro 4 before the
  363. 13:02Adios Pro 4 got released. Um, which is
  364. 13:04quite impressive. Everyone loves Adios
  365. 13:06Pro 4. It's got a better upper, so maybe
  366. 13:08you like that one a little bit more.
  367. 13:10Next up, Dowin PB. Uh, what's this? PB4.
  368. 13:16There's a PB4 Elite as well. Uh, let's
  369. 13:18say that this is a PB4. Uh, this is
  370. 13:21probably going to go in
  371. 13:23it's either Ctier or the back end of
  372. 13:25Btier. Uh, let's go back end of Btier.
  373. 13:28Uh it's got the kind of rubbery light
  374. 13:30strike pro foam. So uh it's a ATPU
  375. 13:35firmer riding foam with pretty simple
  376. 13:37geometry. It's reasonably lightweight.
  377. 13:39The upper is no fuss. Um but I did find
  378. 13:42that it has a bit of a weird beveling
  379. 13:43through the forefoot where it kind of
  380. 13:45forces you onto the uh medial side of
  381. 13:48your foot or doesn't force you onto it.
  382. 13:50It puts extra pressure on the medial
  383. 13:52side of your foot to keep you kind of
  384. 13:54leaning outwards, which is a clever
  385. 13:56stability um feature. But for myself, as
  386. 13:58someone who really drives through the
  387. 14:00big toe. Um I felt like it put a bit of
  388. 14:02extra pressure on my fore foot, gave me
  389. 14:04some blistering, a little bit of extra
  390. 14:05pressure and numbness, which I didn't
  391. 14:07appreciate a whole lot. And it's also
  392. 14:09just not as bouncy and propulsive as the
  393. 14:11A tier. It's definitely better than a
  394. 14:13speed trainer. Full super foam uh
  395. 14:15midsole, but yeah, probably not quite
  396. 14:17reaching up into that top category
  397. 14:20there. Next one, 361°
  398. 14:23Furious 2. So, they have the Furious
  399. 14:26Future, which uses a kind of elevated
  400. 14:29midsole foam, and then they have the
  401. 14:31standard Furious, which is this
  402. 14:33decoupled midsole. I guess it's kind of
  403. 14:35progressed more to like a 510K shoe.
  404. 14:38It's pretty firm, pretty aggressive. I
  405. 14:39would put this as a solid B tier. um
  406. 14:41probably top end of Btier alongside a
  407. 14:43Vaporfly. Um has a really quick tow off,
  408. 14:46bit of fast R um two vibes about it, not
  409. 14:49the new one, the old one. Um but it's a
  410. 14:52little bit lighter, bit snappier. Um and
  411. 14:54I think that yeah, people would enjoy it
  412. 14:56for 510, maybe a half marathon, but
  413. 14:59again, similar thing to the Vapor Fly 4.
  414. 15:01Probably not as much protection and
  415. 15:02propulsion as some of these top tier A
  416. 15:05and S tier models. Next up on Cloud Boom
  417. 15:10Strike. This is a bit of a lovehate
  418. 15:12relationship. I wore this for Perth
  419. 15:14Marathon 2020
  420. 15:17four. Uh I reckon it was. And I really
  421. 15:19love the ride on this shoe. Absolutely
  422. 15:22froth the uh 4oot experience. The pea
  423. 15:24slab is just great. But the upper was a
  424. 15:26nightmare. Ripped my Achilles to shreds.
  425. 15:28I ended up using a pair of scissors and
  426. 15:30cutting into the heel counter to make
  427. 15:32sure that it didn't um keep on arising
  428. 15:34my heel. and it sorted itself out, but
  429. 15:37the grip was still pretty rubbish, but I
  430. 15:39still love the ride. I'm going to put it
  431. 15:40back end of A tier. Um, I think if it
  432. 15:42works for you, it really works. But if
  433. 15:45it doesn't with the upper, with the
  434. 15:47softness, I think it might be a little
  435. 15:49bit more hard to get along with, but I
  436. 15:51still think it's a very good shoe. Bit
  437. 15:53of a baggy upper as well is probably
  438. 15:54another knock, but very keen for the
  439. 15:56update. I've actually tried that on and
  440. 15:58I think it's something to get excited
  441. 16:00about. It's a pretty good shoe. Next up,
  442. 16:02uh, Meta Speed, uh, Edge Tokyo is going
  443. 16:06to go A tier for sure. Um, I'm not going
  444. 16:09to be too fussy about the order, but
  445. 16:10just while I've got space, I will move a
  446. 16:12few things around. I brought this A tier
  447. 16:14for sure. Um, it's light, it's
  448. 16:17protective, uh, it's pretty propulsive.
  449. 16:19The one critique I would have u, which
  450. 16:21probably keeps it from S tier for me, is
  451. 16:23the fact that the softness of the foam
  452. 16:26makes them a little bit, um, friendly
  453. 16:29for some of the harder paces. Uh, and I
  454. 16:31probably lean more towards, you know,
  455. 16:32fast R3s, which are a little bit sharper
  456. 16:34for 5 and 10K. But for the Marathon,
  457. 16:36really solid option, smooth,
  458. 16:38comfortable. Uh, it's got a pretty roomy
  459. 16:40upper, which I think lends itself to
  460. 16:42more foot shapes, which is good. Uh, and
  461. 16:44it's pretty reasonably priced, or it was
  462. 16:46$380 is solid here in Australia. We're
  463. 16:48not factoring in price, but just a kind
  464. 16:50of side note. Um, yeah, I think it's a
  465. 16:52pretty typical A tier super shoe. Um,
  466. 16:55the only thing I would say is that I
  467. 16:56don't think there needs to be both the
  468. 16:58Sky and the Edge. I think that they both
  469. 17:00do very very similar things. And I think
  470. 17:02that ASEX are just trying to flood the
  471. 17:03market with more and more ASICH shoes to
  472. 17:06keep on building up attention for
  473. 17:07themselves, which is what they're doing
  474. 17:08with all their training shoes as well.
  475. 17:10Mega Blast, Super Blast, Sonic Blast,
  476. 17:12Nova Blast. There's going to be more
  477. 17:14Blast. I guarantee it. Uh, and I think
  478. 17:17it's just an attention-seeking stunt.
  479. 17:18And I think that they could just, you
  480. 17:20know, put all of their eggs in one
  481. 17:22basket like most brands do and give us
  482. 17:24just, you know, a Meta Speed. Uh, and
  483. 17:27then maybe a 5 and 10k racing shoe and I
  484. 17:29think we'd be sorted. But yeah, I think
  485. 17:31there's so much pointless debate over
  486. 17:33which one should you go for? Is it for
  487. 17:35stride? Is it for, you know, uh, what's
  488. 17:36the other one? Stride or cadence, which
  489. 17:38I just think is all biomechanical
  490. 17:40rubbish. So, next one. Puma Fast Rar 3 S
  491. 17:44tier. This thing is crazy good. I love
  492. 17:46the leverage off the forefoot. It
  493. 17:48definitely beats you up. I feel like I
  494. 17:50need a wheelchair after running in this
  495. 17:52shoe, especially over a hillier race.
  496. 17:53you have to put in a lot more effort to
  497. 17:55kind of get up the hills, but the
  498. 17:57payoff, the propulsion that you get
  499. 17:59through the forefoot, the kind of
  500. 18:01feeling of converting power through your
  501. 18:03legs onto the road is just pretty much
  502. 18:06unmatched at the moment. It's pretty
  503. 18:07impressive how they've managed to
  504. 18:09manipulate the plate shape to give us
  505. 18:11that kind of performance feel. I think a
  506. 18:13lot of other brands are, you know,
  507. 18:14leaning more into the foam combinations,
  508. 18:16the weight, but I feel like it's kind of
  509. 18:18cool that Puma have gone and thought,
  510. 18:20you know, the carbon plate is still
  511. 18:21something which can offer um a little
  512. 18:23bit of assistance and kind of manipulate
  513. 18:25your biomechanics. So, I think they've
  514. 18:27done a really good job there. Here in
  515. 18:28Australia, no, not talking about price
  516. 18:30point. It's 350 here in Australia, which
  517. 18:32is great. It's going to go up to 400
  518. 18:33next year um for the four, I'm pretty
  519. 18:36sure. So, enjoy it while it's there.
  520. 18:38Very, very good super shoe. I would wear
  521. 18:40it up to the half [snorts] marathon, I
  522. 18:41reckon. marathon? Maybe not. I think it
  523. 18:43might be a bit too aggressive, but if I
  524. 18:45was really, really fit and the legs were
  525. 18:46strong, I would definitely be trying to
  526. 18:48train in it in order to get it to work
  527. 18:50for me um over the marathon distance.
  528. 18:53All right, answer G9 C202 G9 Gen 1. Um,
  529. 18:59a lot of you guys don't know I have this
  530. 19:00one, but I do. Um, I think I've got it
  531. 19:02down here, actually.
  532. 19:04This is a really good shoe. This is
  533. 19:05better than the uh second version, which
  534. 19:07is why I've included it here. You can
  535. 19:08still easily get it on Tab Power. Um,
  536. 19:11this feels like something between an
  537. 19:13Adios Pro 3 and a, uh, Evo Pro One in
  538. 19:17terms of weight and that kind of
  539. 19:18efficiency. Even a PB Pro, it's actually
  540. 19:21not far away from the feel that I get in
  541. 19:23this shoe. It's got a kind of rubbery
  542. 19:25rebound. It's very light. It's very
  543. 19:26nimble, sharp towe off. Um, and yeah, it
  544. 19:29just seemed to work for me. I've only
  545. 19:31done a treadmill session in it so far.
  546. 19:33Uh, and some strides outside and I loved
  547. 19:36it. So, I'm going to put this straight
  548. 19:37up into a tier. Um, I know a good super
  549. 19:40shoe when I feel one and I think that
  550. 19:43this is a good super shoe. Um, I don't
  551. 19:45think it's going to be um the kind of,
  552. 19:48you know, best out there at the moment.
  553. 19:51We've got some great competition uh in
  554. 19:53that kind of 510k half marathon space
  555. 19:56such as the fast 3, but certainly going
  556. 19:58to be pretty close to the top, but we'll
  557. 20:00have to do a little bit more testing
  558. 20:02just to make sure. Uh, next up, boring
  559. 20:06measure speed. Uh, Sky Tokyo. I'm going
  560. 20:08to put it right next to the edge cuz I
  561. 20:10think they're honestly just as good as
  562. 20:11each other. I reckon they rolled a dice
  563. 20:13and just put the foams in the shoes
  564. 20:16based on that. I don't think there's any
  565. 20:18science behind the way that they
  566. 20:20manipulated the plate or the um foam
  567. 20:23setup. They just yeah, randomly did it.
  568. 20:26There's no way that the optimal
  569. 20:30sensation for the stride and cadence
  570. 20:32runner was based on whether the soft
  571. 20:34phone was on top or on the bottom. It's
  572. 20:36just marketing. I don't like it, but
  573. 20:38it's a good shoe. Um, yeah, I would say
  574. 20:39about 5% difference based on my
  575. 20:41experience. I don't think they're
  576. 20:43completely different super shoes. Again,
  577. 20:45I feel like they could just summarize
  578. 20:46them into one model and save us all the
  579. 20:49trouble. Next up, 361° Furious Future 2
  580. 20:52as is Btier, I reckon. Um, I had a
  581. 20:55decent time. It's very protective, very
  582. 20:56stable. It's got a pretty welldirected
  583. 20:59ride, but it did feel a little bit big
  584. 21:03underfoot. Like there's a lot of foam.
  585. 21:05feels like a lot of your force is being
  586. 21:07distributed amongst a pretty big
  587. 21:09midsole. And so I would put this as a B
  588. 21:11tier shoe for someone who's looking for
  589. 21:13something a little bit more stable, bit
  590. 21:14more consistent, reliable for a first
  591. 21:16time marathon maybe. Um, and I think it
  592. 21:19would do a pretty solid job, but the the
  593. 21:21rate of rebound and the kind of degree,
  594. 21:24the magnitude of the bounce is not as
  595. 21:27impressive as some of these top tier
  596. 21:28models. I would love to see them use um
  597. 21:31the newer foam that they've got in the
  598. 21:33Flame 5 future in this model. I think it
  599. 21:35would drop weight. It would give it a
  600. 21:36bit more propulsion. I think it'd be
  601. 21:38very, very exciting.
  602. 21:41160x 3.5 Pro from XEP. This is going S
  603. 21:46tier. Um, don't ask me how a 5-year-old
  604. 21:48shoe that weighs 244 g um, is this good?
  605. 21:52Because I just don't understand it. It's
  606. 21:54one of the biggest, most booming
  607. 21:55propulsive rides that I've ever come
  608. 21:57across, and it just keeps on coming back
  609. 21:59for more. The rocker here is ridiculous.
  610. 22:02The plate stiffness is crazy. The foam
  611. 22:05just doesn't die off. Like that's one
  612. 22:07thing I've noticed is I love this yellow
  613. 22:09X. The PA foam is great. It's very
  614. 22:11smooth. But I do notice that it fatigues
  615. 22:13over the course of some of the longer
  616. 22:14sessions. Like put 12, 14ks of hard
  617. 22:17running into it, and it does start to
  618. 22:19kind of soften out, become a little bit
  619. 22:20more mushy. Whereas this foam just gets
  620. 22:23better over the course of the run.
  621. 22:24Running in a half marathon, by the end
  622. 22:26of the race, it still had that
  623. 22:27structured propulsion, but it just felt
  624. 22:29a little bit more comfortable and it was
  625. 22:31great. Um, I honestly don't notice the
  626. 22:33weight at all. This is one that just
  627. 22:35seems to suit my stride. Make gets you
  628. 22:36to really pick your legs up off the
  629. 22:38ground and it feels like you spend a
  630. 22:40little bit more time in the air, which
  631. 22:41is, yeah, it's kind of counterintuitive
  632. 22:43because that's very similar things to
  633. 22:44what I say about the Hyperlite racing
  634. 22:46shoes. You know, you're spending more
  635. 22:48time in the air, easy to pick your feet
  636. 22:49up off the ground, but this shoe is just
  637. 22:51so propulsive and bouncy that it helps
  638. 22:53you do it. Anyway, so yeah, really,
  639. 22:55really fantastic. I've got the 160X
  640. 22:597 Pro on order. It's on its way. Should
  641. 23:02be here in the next couple of days. Um,
  642. 23:04so we're going to see if that has any of
  643. 23:05the magic of this shoe. But I'm really
  644. 23:07hoping that XDEP can kind of replicate
  645. 23:09this geometry or this sensation with
  646. 23:12modern foams and a slightly lighter
  647. 23:14weight. Like I'm not obsessed with
  648. 23:15weight obviously. You know, I'm happy to
  649. 23:17race in this cuz it feels so good. But I
  650. 23:19feel like there is opportunity there to
  651. 23:21give us that experience and shave 60 70
  652. 23:24g, which could actually be significant
  653. 23:27in terms of efficiency. Next up, uh,
  654. 23:29Doian PB4 Elite. Uh, this is going right
  655. 23:33next to the PB4. I thought they were
  656. 23:34pretty much identical. I don't actually
  657. 23:36know why they released two models. I
  658. 23:39wonder if they maybe they like ran out
  659. 23:42of contract with a foam supplier or
  660. 23:45maybe the production of the PB4 was a
  661. 23:47bit annoying, but they didn't really
  662. 23:49feel like there was any real difference
  663. 23:51between the two. Both had a rubbery
  664. 23:52smooth rebound. Both had very similar
  665. 23:54geometries. The only difference I
  666. 23:56noticed was the PB4 Elite was a little
  667. 23:59bit firmer and so I noticed that kind of
  668. 24:01pressure through the forefoot area a
  669. 24:03little bit more. Uppers are the same,
  670. 24:04outsoles are the same. It's a little bit
  671. 24:06more expensive as well. So, I'd probably
  672. 24:08recommend go for the PB4 instead. Solid
  673. 24:10shoe. Um, better than a Speed Trainer
  674. 24:12for sure, but not really close to that
  675. 24:15top A or S tier, uh, as far as I'm
  676. 24:17concerned.
  677. 24:19All right, Urka Infinite 4. Um, I've
  678. 24:22done strides in this one, so I haven't
  679. 24:23actually run it properly, but I'm going
  680. 24:25to say it's probably either on the back
  681. 24:27end of A tier or the top end of B tier.
  682. 24:31Let's shuffle a couple along. I think
  683. 24:33because I haven't run it, I can't really
  684. 24:35put it in a tier just yet. It's not the
  685. 24:38most impressive in terms of specs. It's
  686. 24:39got a pretty firm, punchy pea foam,
  687. 24:42beaded pea foam. Pretty sharp geometry
  688. 24:45though, which is what I think is getting
  689. 24:46me interested. Has a really nice
  690. 24:49directed ride. Um, and it's quite stable
  691. 24:51as well. So, I think this will be a
  692. 24:52popular shoe, but whether it's A or B
  693. 24:54tier, it's up in the air for now. I
  694. 24:56think I've got it here. Do I? Oh, maybe
  695. 24:58not. Or maybe do. Oh, I got this
  696. 25:00colorway here. I thought I got it red
  697. 25:02because it's red on the screen, but I
  698. 25:03actually got this colorway, which I
  699. 25:04think looks sick. Um, so yeah, it's got
  700. 25:06quite a sharp rocker, firmer pea foam,
  701. 25:09bit of flaring up into the fore foot,
  702. 25:10which I think will suit me quite nicely.
  703. 25:12I'm keen to see how this goes. Um, it's
  704. 25:14reasonably light, so yeah, I think this
  705. 25:16is a pretty easy B tier, but possibly a
  706. 25:18tier. I think it's getting somewhat
  707. 25:20close. All right, shuffling up along.
  708. 25:24Be my Turbo 3. This is their I guess
  709. 25:29it's their best racing shoe. It's the
  710. 25:31lightest. It's using a super critical uh
  711. 25:33pea foam uh which I think could be
  712. 25:36really good, but I think we just need
  713. 25:38geometry revisions um on a fair few of
  714. 25:40their shoes. I think the complaint is
  715. 25:42pretty similar across the board. they
  716. 25:43just don't have a sharp enough to off to
  717. 25:46really make the carbon plate pay off.
  718. 25:48Like you get up into the forefoot and
  719. 25:50there's just not enough geometry to kind
  720. 25:52of bring you through and then it feels
  721. 25:53like you're fighting the stiffness of
  722. 25:54the plate or the foam doesn't really
  723. 25:56give uh get its best opportunity to
  724. 25:59shine. And so this is going to be
  725. 26:01another, you know, top end of B tier uh
  726. 26:04kind of shoe. It's light, it's smooth,
  727. 26:06it's pretty stable, it's pretty
  728. 26:07comfortable, the fit is nice, um and
  729. 26:09it's quite light. So, yeah, there's not
  730. 26:11a whole lot to complain about, but the
  731. 26:14kind of seriousness of the ride, the
  732. 26:15propulsion, um, is not good enough to be
  733. 26:17putting it up in the A tier.
  734. 26:21All right, Brooks Hyperion Elite 5.
  735. 26:23Okay, this surprisingly good. I was not
  736. 26:27expecting to like this shoe as much as I
  737. 26:29have. It's pretty basic, honestly. Like,
  738. 26:31I'm not giving him a pat on the back for
  739. 26:33working out that pee and a carbon plate
  740. 26:35is a good way to make a super shoe. I
  741. 26:37think that the geometry, the the length
  742. 26:39of the rocker works really well with my
  743. 26:41stride and the upper is fantastic. If
  744. 26:43you've actually been able to put your
  745. 26:45foot in this shoe, I think a lot of
  746. 26:47people would be able to uh tell me that
  747. 26:49it's one of the best uh uppers that
  748. 26:50you'll put your foot into. It grips the
  749. 26:52back of your foot nicely, but it's soft
  750. 26:54and gentle, very, very breathable. This
  751. 26:56is going to be going top end of B tier
  752. 26:58as well. I would be pretty willing uh to
  753. 27:02race in this shoe, I would say. It's got
  754. 27:04a really nice geometry to it. Uh, and
  755. 27:07things just seem to go well when I run
  756. 27:09it. It's nothing special. Like, I'm not
  757. 27:10going to exaggerate how good it is, but
  758. 27:13it just seems to work. They've done it
  759. 27:14well. You can keep things simple and you
  760. 27:16can make an effective super shoe just by
  761. 27:18doing the simple things well. And that's
  762. 27:21what they've done. Just trying to
  763. 27:22reorder things here so they kind of
  764. 27:23represent what I'm feeling. So, yeah,
  765. 27:26I'm very keen for the update, though.
  766. 27:27I've actually tried on the Hyperion
  767. 27:29Elite 6 uh sample, though. So, size N
  768. 27:32might be a little bit different when it
  769. 27:33comes through, but I'm very keen on that
  770. 27:35one. I think it's going to be up in that
  771. 27:37A tier in terms of propulsion. It's a
  772. 27:39bit lighter, and the geometry felt
  773. 27:41pretty serious as well. What we got
  774. 27:44next? All right. Leaning Fadian Ultra 5.
  775. 27:48I think this is going to go H. Ah, S
  776. 27:51tier. A S tier. S tier. Yep. This is
  777. 27:55another one of those ones where uh it
  778. 27:58just feels smooth and propulsive and
  779. 28:00rhythmic and efficient. Like you don't
  780. 28:02necessarily get again that kind of big
  781. 28:05gooey squishy kind of [snorts] it is
  782. 28:08bouncy. It is very bouncy, but it's a
  783. 28:10firmer bounce. It's a more kind of
  784. 28:12serious bounce than something like the
  785. 28:13Cello X. Uh and I found that I've had
  786. 28:15some of the best sessions of my life in
  787. 28:17this shoe, especially once you kind of
  788. 28:20learn how to run in it. My first
  789. 28:21session, I wasn't that blown away. I
  790. 28:23knew it was good, but I wasn't like, you
  791. 28:25know, losing my mind over it. But now
  792. 28:27since coming back to it, putting a good
  793. 28:2970ks of running into it. Um, I've just
  794. 28:31realized how well it can work. Smashing
  795. 28:34down into the forefoot, the propulsion
  796. 28:36from the PA foam, the carbon plate
  797. 28:38setup, it really is a very, very special
  798. 28:40shoe. I'm going to go S tier. It's
  799. 28:43probably a little bit closer to A tier
  800. 28:44than some of these others. Um, I think
  801. 28:46I've realized with some of the other
  802. 28:48shoes which are going to make an
  803. 28:49appearance in the A and S tier, but it's
  804. 28:52Yeah, I think it's S tier. I think
  805. 28:54that's fair to do. All right, next up,
  806. 28:57Ant C202
  807. 28:59uh 6 Pro. Slightly older shoe here, but
  808. 29:02I have actually managed to get this one
  809. 29:04in. Do I have it here? Only done strides
  810. 29:07in it so far, but I picked it up because
  811. 29:09someone said that it felt like the 160X
  812. 29:113.5. I can definitely see that with a
  813. 29:14sharp rocker, beaded foam, firmer ride.
  814. 29:17I think this is going to suit me as
  815. 29:18well. Really sharp, snappy turnover. Um,
  816. 29:21I'm going to put this up in a tier. Um,
  817. 29:24as well, maybe I need to expand this
  818. 29:26out. We're going to put it over in a
  819. 29:29tier. I definitely think it's going to
  820. 29:30be up towards the top end in terms of
  821. 29:33that kind of sharper, faster propulsion.
  822. 29:35I think it will probably have a leg up
  823. 29:38over some of the kind of more comfort
  824. 29:39focused, softer, squishier super shoes
  825. 29:42out there. Um, but it probably not on
  826. 29:45the same level, I think, as the 160X
  827. 29:48just off those first strides. I knew
  828. 29:49this one was special from the moment I
  829. 29:51stepped into it. Whereas this one here,
  830. 29:53I think I know that I'm going to like
  831. 29:55it, but we're just going to have to work
  832. 29:56out how much um I do. So, yeah, we'll
  833. 29:59get a few more runs into that. See how
  834. 30:00that goes. Very stiff carbon play. One
  835. 30:02of the stiffest I've ever felt.
  836. 30:05All right. Uh, Ant C10 Pro 2 S tier for
  837. 30:09sure. Top end of S tier. I'll probably
  838. 30:11bump these two along and put it.
  839. 30:14It's probably similar level of
  840. 30:16propulsion to the Fast R3. Now, I know
  841. 30:19my first impressions video was a little
  842. 30:21bit subdued on this one. And I think I
  843. 30:23worked out that I was just a little bit
  844. 30:24sore. And I've also have just learned
  845. 30:26how to use it a little bit better since
  846. 30:28then. On sore legs, this shoe is not the
  847. 30:32best, but on fresh legs, running hard,
  848. 30:35this is one of the most propulsive
  849. 30:36assistive rides that I've felt. It
  850. 30:39almost feels a little bit too fast for
  851. 30:41me. And that's not something I would
  852. 30:42usually say. One, because, you know, bit
  853. 30:45of a weird concept, a shoe being too
  854. 30:46fast for you, but secondly, it's a bit
  855. 30:48embarrassing to admit that you're not
  856. 30:49fast enough to use a super shoe. This
  857. 30:52one, there was times when I was pushing
  858. 30:54the pace in my sessions, especially for
  859. 30:55some 400 reps, where the shoe felt like
  860. 30:58it was running away from me. It was
  861. 31:00almost like I was trying to lean forward
  862. 31:02to um try and kind of like, you know,
  863. 31:05really get on the front of the shoe and
  864. 31:06get that propulsion, but then it felt
  865. 31:08like my feet were kind of falling
  866. 31:10forward too quickly underneath me. And
  867. 31:12so I needed to kind of st like lean
  868. 31:14back, I guess. And so it was this weird
  869. 31:16kind of push and pull between um yeah,
  870. 31:19running really really hard and enjoying
  871. 31:21it, but also having the shoe kind of get
  872. 31:23away from itself and become a bit of a
  873. 31:25hassle. It was so much fun slamming down
  874. 31:28into that forefoot. The turnover is so
  875. 31:31quick. The rocker here is ridiculously
  876. 31:33sharp. Um but it does beat you up. Um
  877. 31:35it's not not even close to how bad the
  878. 31:38Fast R3 beats you up, but you definitely
  879. 31:40do notice it the next day. um and you
  880. 31:42can't go on into it on sore legs, but in
  881. 31:45terms of yeah, that kind of 5 10 half
  882. 31:48marathon option, I think it's one of the
  883. 31:50best uh for the marathon, it would be
  884. 31:52one of those ones where I want to learn
  885. 31:53to use it at marathon pace first. But
  886. 31:56yeah, very very optimistic with this
  887. 31:57one. It just seems to get better and
  888. 31:59better the more that I use it. I've now
  889. 32:00done 40ks of running in it, including a
  890. 32:045k treadmill time trial. Um so I'm not
  891. 32:07too far away from review. This has been
  892. 32:09a huge turnaround from the first
  893. 32:10impressions. Insanely good. Not worth
  894. 32:12$500, but you can get it cheaper at the
  895. 32:14moment. I've also got the C10 Balance on
  896. 32:18um order, which I think is meant to be a
  897. 32:20more stable version of this one, so
  898. 32:21we'll see how that compares. Um but
  899. 32:24yeah, very very good shoe. I'm kind of
  900. 32:26embarrassed how much it's turned around
  901. 32:28since the first impressions. So, so
  902. 32:30good.
  903. 32:32All right, Dina Fish Dion One. Uh this
  904. 32:35was their first uh super shoe. So, first
  905. 32:39and only, I guess, hyper shoe. Coming in
  906. 32:41very light, about 150 g in my men's
  907. 32:44size, the equivalent of a men's size 10.
  908. 32:46Um, it's good, but I would say it's
  909. 32:49probably in the back end of eight here,
  910. 32:51just due to the fact that the carbon
  911. 32:54plate is a little bit too close to the
  912. 32:57sock liner. Um, and you can feel it when
  913. 33:00you really read the pace. So, it felt
  914. 33:02fantastic and smooth and feathery and
  915. 33:04airy for that kind of half marathon
  916. 33:07pace, marathon tempo efforts. Used it
  917. 33:09for so many good thresholds, but
  918. 33:12slamming it down for 400, 800 m reps, I
  919. 33:15did start to get some discomfort in the
  920. 33:16bottom of my forefoot. And I think
  921. 33:18that's a pretty easy fix to be honest. I
  922. 33:19think the Dian 2, I haven't even seen or
  923. 33:22heard anything about it, but presuming
  924. 33:23it's on the way, I think, is going to be
  925. 33:25a really, really good shoe if they can
  926. 33:27just fix that one issue. Super critical
  927. 33:28paper foam, super cheap as well. or you
  928. 33:30can pick it up for like 100 bucks. It's
  929. 33:32not about price point, but
  930. 33:33performance-wise, I think this is a
  931. 33:35pretty fair A tier. But yeah, very, very
  932. 33:37good. I'm keen to see how they change
  933. 33:39that moving forward. Next up, Ant C202
  934. 33:43G92.
  935. 33:47All right, I think I've got to give it a
  936. 33:50tier, but it's going to be back end of A
  937. 33:51tier. Um, I think this shoe felt a
  938. 33:54little bit relaxed for me and I think
  939. 33:57part of that's just unfortunate because
  940. 33:59I do have a size 10 1/2T and Ant only
  941. 34:04sell the 44 and the 45 on Taobo. So, I
  942. 34:07had to go for um a 45 in order to get it
  943. 34:10to actually fit. The uh 44 was too
  944. 34:12short. 45 was, you know, it fit well,
  945. 34:15but I had a fair bit of extra room ahead
  946. 34:17of the toes. And I think that led to the
  947. 34:19flexibility at the end of the shoe being
  948. 34:20a little bit too much and it felt a
  949. 34:22little bit relaxed. I felt like I
  950. 34:24couldn't really get that propulsion,
  951. 34:25that rebound that I got from most other
  952. 34:27super shoes in that A category. And so
  953. 34:30it ended up feeling like a really
  954. 34:31smooth, comfortable marathon racing
  955. 34:32shoe. But in many ways, almost more of a
  956. 34:36kind of smooth super trainer, uh, the
  957. 34:38way that I felt it. But I know that's
  958. 34:40not the experience of everyone. I think
  959. 34:41that it is pretty equivalent to stuff
  960. 34:44like the Adios Pro 4. uh you probably
  961. 34:46bring it out alongside a fang played one
  962. 34:50or the three. Um but it is a little bit
  963. 34:52lower stacked, a little bit more light
  964. 34:54and nimble. So that might kind of sway
  965. 34:56it for some people. Back end of A tier.
  966. 34:59I'm kind of considering B tier, but I
  967. 35:00think it's a little bit better than a
  968. 35:02couple of these in here. So we can leave
  969. 35:04it at a tier for now.
  970. 35:07Uh
  971. 35:09Fadian Elite 6 from Leaning, I think.
  972. 35:17I think you got to go S tier. Um, I
  973. 35:19would have it like right up at the top
  974. 35:21of A tier, but I think it is a level up
  975. 35:24above most of those super shoes in
  976. 35:26there. The closest ride I think is the
  977. 35:28CLOX 1.3, but I think that this shoe
  978. 35:31just holds its bounce a little bit
  979. 35:33longer and has a bit more bit more
  980. 35:35bounce. It's a bit bigger. It's a bit
  981. 35:36more boommy. Um, and I think that it's a
  982. 35:39little bit more fun. Really, really
  983. 35:40great shoe. One of the most protective,
  984. 35:42gooey, um, ridiculous feeling racing
  985. 35:44shoes that I've worn. Highly, highly
  986. 35:47recommend it. It's, yeah, one of the
  987. 35:48best out there. The hype is real. Don't
  988. 35:50really need to say much more. All right.
  989. 35:53Indonesian brand. This is the Mills
  990. 35:56Hypercharge R26, which is their hypers
  991. 35:59shoe. It's coming in around about 180 g
  992. 36:01for my men's size EU44, which is not as
  993. 36:06uh kind of super competitive as it used
  994. 36:08to be. like a lot of super shoes like
  995. 36:10the Meta Speeds are coming in at 180.
  996. 36:12Um, but it is still a very nice shoe.
  997. 36:14It's got a paper based super foam. Um,
  998. 36:17it is kind of I guess a little bit more
  999. 36:21kind of flat in geometry. Uh, the plate
  1000. 36:23is a little bit more flexible. It has a
  1001. 36:25really nice fluid natural ride which
  1002. 36:27reminds me a little bit of a combination
  1003. 36:29between something like the uh old Meta
  1004. 36:34Speed Edge Paris uh and something a
  1005. 36:37little bit softer like the Hyperwarp
  1006. 36:39Pure. It feels like somewhere in between
  1007. 36:40that where you get a little bit of extra
  1008. 36:42softness, a bit more forgiveness, but
  1009. 36:44then a really nice decisive rebound.
  1010. 36:46This is going to go a tier for me. I'll
  1011. 36:48be be nice here. I think it is. Yeah,
  1012. 36:50I'd say it's above the uh the Infinite
  1013. 36:54and the Hyperion. So, we'll try to
  1014. 36:55squeeze it into the A tier here. All
  1015. 36:58right, we're back. I've managed to open
  1016. 37:00up a little bit more space. We're going
  1017. 37:01to put it in a tier. I think it's
  1018. 37:03probably
  1019. 37:05in the bottom half of a tier, but I
  1020. 37:07don't think it's quite towards the
  1021. 37:08bottom. So, let's put down a little bit
  1022. 37:10lower. I think that's probably looking
  1023. 37:13about right. So, yeah, Mills
  1024. 37:14Hypercharge. Some good stuff coming out
  1025. 37:16of Indonesia. I've been pretty impressed
  1026. 37:18with that one so far. One thing is I did
  1027. 37:20get a little bit of blistering because
  1028. 37:22the sizing is a bit off. So EU44 is
  1029. 37:24probably fitting more like an AU45.
  1030. 37:27And so I feel like if I wanted to get
  1031. 37:29the proper fit through the ankle collar,
  1032. 37:30I'd probably need to go down to a 43.
  1033. 37:33That would be my one caveat there. Her
  1034. 37:36Rocket X3. Uh that's an easy B tier. Um
  1035. 37:40I think it's good. It's comfortable.
  1036. 37:42It's got a nice smooth geometry, but you
  1037. 37:44know, it's a little bit on the heavier
  1038. 37:46side and there's nothing that special
  1039. 37:47about it. Um, I think yeah, I'd probably
  1040. 37:50put it Oh, it's below a Vapor Fly.
  1041. 37:52Vaporfly is high performing. Uh, it's
  1042. 37:54probably equivalent to the B Mine. Let's
  1043. 37:55leave it there. Um, I don't think it's,
  1044. 37:57you know, a bad shoe, but it's
  1045. 37:59definitely more one that you would
  1046. 38:00choose for its stability, the comfort
  1047. 38:03through the upper rather than its raw
  1048. 38:05performance. Uh, in which case you would
  1049. 38:06go for the yellow if you are stuck with
  1050. 38:09Hoka. So, yeah, it's okay, but it's
  1051. 38:12nothing super special in comparison to
  1052. 38:16all these other models here. Next up,
  1053. 38:20361 degrees Flame 5. Another B tier for
  1054. 38:22sure. Stable. Uh, it's consistent. I
  1055. 38:24reckon it's going to be very durable.
  1056. 38:26Beaded foam. Um, the use of the carbon
  1057. 38:28plate to kind of enhance that stability,
  1058. 38:30I think, is pretty impressive. Um, but
  1059. 38:33the Yeah, it doesn't have as much
  1060. 38:34forgiveness and kind of uh smoothness as
  1061. 38:38some other super shoes. I think it opens
  1062. 38:40up nicely to force, but yeah, I just
  1063. 38:42think that there's slightly higher
  1064. 38:44performing models out there, which will
  1065. 38:45probably be more attractive to most of
  1066. 38:47you there. Stable, kind of an endorphin
  1067. 38:49pro feel to it. I think it's solid, but
  1068. 38:51yeah, Btier, I think, is pretty
  1069. 38:53appropriate. Hyperwarp Pure from Mazuno.
  1070. 38:56Uh, let's crop this one up so it
  1071. 38:58actually fits a little bit nicer. Um, I
  1072. 38:59would say this is an S tier. Um, it's
  1073. 39:01probably the back end of S tier. Um, I
  1074. 39:04think that it opens up really nicely to
  1075. 39:07pace and I think for five and 10k
  1076. 39:09especially, I found that it really, you
  1077. 39:11know, holds its own. Maybe for like
  1078. 39:14marathon, half marathon pace, you
  1079. 39:15probably put it back in a tier. Um, I
  1080. 39:18think that it's when it doesn't have the
  1081. 39:20opportunity to really engage that sharp,
  1082. 39:23stiff plate up in the forefoot, it
  1083. 39:25doesn't feel quite as exceptional. Um,
  1084. 39:28that's definitely the Pure. The Elite
  1085. 39:30and the Pure look the same. Um, yeah,
  1086. 39:31when you don't put as much force through
  1087. 39:33it, it doesn't really feel quite as
  1088. 39:34magic, but 5 and 10k pace, this thing
  1089. 39:37absolutely goes and it is very, very
  1090. 39:39light. One of the better hypers shoes
  1091. 39:41that I've tried and I've tried a couple.
  1092. 39:42So, yeah, well done there from Mizuno.
  1093. 39:44They've also made one which is stable,
  1094. 39:46um, which is pretty important. I know a
  1095. 39:48lot of people froth on the Meta Speed
  1096. 39:49Ray, but you know, for a marathon, that
  1097. 39:52thing will definitely take a little bit
  1098. 39:53more work than the Pure 361° flame 5
  1099. 39:59future. Uh, this is going solid A tier.
  1100. 40:01Really? Yeah, that was a bit of a
  1101. 40:03surprise. I think I've got it here
  1102. 40:04somewhere. Do I
  1103. 40:07thought I did? Oh, yeah. Right here.
  1104. 40:10This one, it's got some Dwin PB Pro
  1105. 40:13vibes about it. The style of uh foam
  1106. 40:15here, the TPE, I believe, has a really
  1107. 40:18nice, durable, dense, resilient feel to
  1108. 40:21it that just keeps on coming back. Works
  1109. 40:23really well at half marathon, marathon
  1110. 40:25pace threshold sessions. maybe loses out
  1111. 40:28a little bit when you start to really
  1112. 40:30step things up into uh that kind of uh
  1113. 40:33510k zones, really rip the intervals,
  1114. 40:36but I'd probably slot it in the middle
  1115. 40:37of a tier. The foam is really good. The
  1116. 40:40geometry is simple. It's good weight.
  1117. 40:41The grip is good. Um not much to
  1118. 40:43complain about. I'm very keen to see
  1119. 40:45them use this TPE foam in some of their
  1120. 40:48other models because I think it is a
  1121. 40:50step up over the firmer PA that they've
  1122. 40:52been using for a couple of years now.
  1123. 40:54Uh, next up, the RunFly Flare Elite or
  1124. 40:59the Gunfire. I think there's a couple of
  1125. 41:00different names getting around. This is
  1126. 41:02going to go back end of A tier as well.
  1127. 41:04Probably threatening on B tier. Um, for
  1128. 41:08me, I know it's very light. Uh, it's a
  1129. 41:10good lightweight, super critical pea
  1130. 41:13foam super shoe, but I found the
  1131. 41:15geometry to be just a little bit weird
  1132. 41:17for me. It's really long and extended.
  1133. 41:19whole lot of toe spring which put me in
  1134. 41:21a permanent state of dorsif flexion
  1135. 41:23which then prevented me from really
  1136. 41:25utilizing my calves almost putting them
  1137. 41:27in a bit of a stretch position which did
  1138. 41:29beat them up over some of the harder
  1139. 41:31sessions pretty fine for uh tempos and
  1140. 41:34marathon pace kind of stuff but for
  1141. 41:36really ripping the pace didn't get along
  1142. 41:38with me quite as nicely so it's probably
  1143. 41:39threatening B tier I'll be honest but A
  1144. 41:42tier it's light it's smooth it's quite
  1145. 41:44stable um I think a lot of people would
  1146. 41:46get along with it quite nicely as uh
  1147. 41:49high performing Rocket X3. I think it
  1148. 41:51would be a good way to describe it. It's
  1149. 41:52a good shoe. Um yeah, for first shoe
  1150. 41:55from a brand, I think that is a pretty
  1151. 41:57good debut. Next up, uh RC SC Elite V5.
  1152. 42:03It's going to be age here, but probably
  1153. 42:04back end for me. I didn't really seem to
  1154. 42:06get along with it as well. I felt like
  1155. 42:08the forefoot was a little bit soft and
  1156. 42:10the plate geometry was a little bit meh,
  1157. 42:13like didn't have a whole lot of scooping
  1158. 42:15to it. didn't really feel like it had as
  1159. 42:16much direction as I would probably
  1160. 42:18prefer. So, yeah, I'd probably put it in
  1161. 42:21the kind of middle of a tier, middle to
  1162. 42:24low. Um, pretty similar feelings to oh,
  1163. 42:27the G92, I guess, uh, in terms of being
  1164. 42:31a little bit soft, a little bit more
  1165. 42:32relaxed. Something that I would use for
  1166. 42:33a kind of marathon long run, but not
  1167. 42:35something that I'd really use for a
  1168. 42:37marathon race, if that makes sense. Good
  1169. 42:39grip though, so that's good. But yeah, I
  1170. 42:41think the pea foam I don't think that
  1171. 42:44pea foam is the highest performing. I
  1172. 42:46think New Balance have a comfy pea foam,
  1173. 42:48but they don't have a serious pea foam
  1174. 42:51like you find in uh Brooks shoes.
  1175. 42:53Actually, I think Brooks and Nike and
  1176. 42:56who else has a serious pea? Mazuno have
  1177. 42:59a serious pea. Uh whereas I feel like
  1178. 43:01Hoka and New Balance have a type of pea
  1179. 43:03which is a little bit more soft and
  1180. 43:05friendly and almost a little bit mushy.
  1181. 43:07um whereas these ones have one which is
  1182. 43:08kind of like tighter feeling and more
  1183. 43:11immediate in its response. So yeah,
  1184. 43:13that's why it would be kind of lower
  1185. 43:15down in the A tier for me. Uh next up,
  1186. 43:18Mazuno Hyperwarp Elite. Uh this is going
  1187. 43:21top of A tier. I would put this above
  1188. 43:23the meta speeds. I think it's more
  1189. 43:25serious than those. I think the
  1190. 43:27propulsion through the forefoot,
  1191. 43:29especially someone who puts a little bit
  1192. 43:30more force through the ground, uh is
  1193. 43:33really really nice. I'm going to put it
  1194. 43:36right up close. I think I'd have to put
  1195. 43:38it above the mirror nude because I've
  1196. 43:39only done strides. I'm going to put it
  1197. 43:40right at the top of a tier there. It's
  1198. 43:43definitely not as uh protective as some
  1199. 43:45of these other marathon shoes. I think
  1200. 43:47you'd find uh that the, you know, meta
  1201. 43:51speeds would probably take over for the
  1202. 43:53marathon, but half marathon, 10k, 5k,
  1203. 43:56this is a more serious focused ride,
  1204. 43:58which I think offers a little bit more
  1205. 44:00reward for the force that you put in.
  1206. 44:01Whereas these shoes a little bit softer
  1207. 44:03and I think kind of yeah lose out a
  1208. 44:06little bit of that anger which I really
  1209. 44:08enjoy personally. Hyperwop Pro from
  1210. 44:11Mizuno. This would be a B tier. Oh, what
  1211. 44:13have I done?
  1212. 44:18There we go. Btier. This uh is Btier
  1213. 44:21because it is a little bit heavier. It's
  1214. 44:23got a really nice stable base now, which
  1215. 44:24is a bizarre pivot from Mizuno going
  1216. 44:27from one of the most unstable super
  1217. 44:28shoes on the market to one of the most
  1218. 44:30stable. uh TPE foam all the way through.
  1219. 44:33It's resilient. It's durable. This would
  1220. 44:34be a really solid first time marathon
  1221. 44:36racing shoe for many people or even as a
  1222. 44:39kind of super trainer substitute. I
  1223. 44:40think it would have its spot. Um the
  1224. 44:42upper is comfortable. Grips great. Not
  1225. 44:44much to complain about, but yeah, not
  1226. 44:46scratching into the A tier. I think it's
  1227. 44:48more of that kind of dense, durable,
  1228. 44:50comfortable, stable super shoe. Uh next
  1229. 44:53up on Cloud Boom Vault. Um, I did one
  1230. 44:56run in this one. Thought it was okay,
  1231. 44:58but not good enough uh that I would
  1232. 45:00consider, you know, racing in it. Um, I
  1233. 45:03think it could be a pickup that you
  1234. 45:04might use for a cheap speed trainer,
  1235. 45:07maybe. Um, Btier for sure. Um, but yeah,
  1236. 45:10I didn't do any more running in it
  1237. 45:11because I realized that if it's not a
  1238. 45:14really good super shoe and if it's an on
  1239. 45:16shoe, then it's probably not going to
  1240. 45:18get enough views that it's worth
  1241. 45:20actually completing it. So, yeah, put it
  1242. 45:23in B tier. Don't think many people are
  1243. 45:25going to notice it, but I think it's
  1244. 45:26pretty solid. I would put it above uh
  1245. 45:28the Bei probably. Let's do that.
  1246. 45:32But it's not as good as a Vaporfly. The
  1247. 45:34Vaporfly is a bit lighter uh and has a
  1248. 45:37more kind of stripped down upper. This
  1249. 45:39kind of feels like a true budget super
  1250. 45:41uh speed shoe, racing shoe, which is
  1251. 45:43giving you a full PE foam and a carbon
  1252. 45:46plate, but the upper is a little bit
  1253. 45:47more comfort focused, a little bit
  1254. 45:49cheaper. Um I guess next up, Velocity
  1255. 45:52Elite.
  1256. 45:54two. Um I think the three is out. Um but
  1257. 45:57I haven't actually seen anywhere to buy
  1258. 45:59it. Probably not going to buy it. Um
  1259. 46:01considering that it is still pretty
  1260. 46:02heavy. Um this one would be
  1261. 46:07I think it' be somewhere between C and B
  1262. 46:10tier. had a really nice foroot geometry,
  1263. 46:12which is why I was kind of keeping my
  1264. 46:14eyes out on the Under Armour shoe
  1265. 46:16because, you know, if you can get this
  1266. 46:18geometry, which is somewhat similar to
  1267. 46:20the 160X 3.5 Pro and give us a lighter
  1268. 46:23foam, then that could be a pretty easy
  1269. 46:26recipe for a fun super shoe. But it
  1270. 46:28seems like they've stuck with a pretty
  1271. 46:30boring foam. And I think they've even
  1272. 46:31reduced the 4 foot rocker, uh, which is
  1273. 46:33a shame. I'm going to say, oh, let's go.
  1274. 46:36Let's go Btier. I think back end of
  1275. 46:38Btier. It's dense. It's got a kind of
  1276. 46:41more gutsy feel up in the fore foot. I
  1277. 46:43think it's like a 3 and a half mil drop.
  1278. 46:44It's very low. Um, but a nice turnover
  1279. 46:47for that kind of marathon pace session
  1280. 46:50threshold, but probably loses out a
  1281. 46:52little bit in terms of weight for the
  1282. 46:53really fast stuff. All right, DV8 Nitro
  1283. 46:57Elite 4. That is going in the back end
  1284. 46:59of A tier. Uh, for sure. I'll probably
  1285. 47:02mid tier. I would have it over the SC
  1286. 47:05Elite V5 and the G92.
  1287. 47:08Maybe I should have been a bit more
  1288. 47:10harsh on those. Maybe they better belong
  1289. 47:11in B tier. It's always hard when you're
  1290. 47:13setting up these videos. You think that
  1291. 47:14you're going to be able to kind of
  1292. 47:15justify everything and put them all into
  1293. 47:17a nice little order so that it all makes
  1294. 47:19sense, but you get halfway through and
  1295. 47:21then you realize that you've kind of
  1296. 47:22been a bit too lenient on some. Okay,
  1297. 47:24it's better than a C202 G9. It's got a
  1298. 47:26more focused, snappy ride. There's
  1299. 47:29nothing wrong with it either. That's
  1300. 47:30also a reason that it's in a tier. It's
  1301. 47:31got a good upper, good outsole. The
  1302. 47:33weight is solid. The um feel of the foam
  1303. 47:36is very nice. Uh, and there's nothing
  1304. 47:38that I would really change about it, but
  1305. 47:40it's also not quite as protective and
  1306. 47:42propulsive as some of these higher up
  1307. 47:44models. I would have it above the G902,
  1308. 47:48probably below the Flame 5 future. Yeah,
  1309. 47:51that's probably looking quite nice
  1310. 47:52there. Let's just do a little bit more
  1311. 47:54shuffling along. I'll get better at the
  1312. 47:56uh ranking list, I promise. And we'll do
  1313. 47:58a few for some daily trainers and super
  1314. 48:00trainers as well.
  1315. 48:03All right, next up we have the Urka
  1316. 48:05Infinite 2. This is the stereotypical uh
  1317. 48:09B tier super shoe. A little bit heavier,
  1318. 48:11a little bit more protective and
  1319. 48:13comfortable, very stable for sure. Uh I
  1320. 48:16think that I would have this around
  1321. 48:18about the same as the uh Furious Future
  1322. 48:212. Um it's not quite as propulsive, I
  1323. 48:25would say, as like an Endorphin Elite 2
  1324. 48:28or the feel of the Urka. That's the
  1325. 48:32Infinite 4. Man, the naming conventions
  1326. 48:34are so tricky. I'm going to put it in
  1327. 48:35the mid tier probably around the Wave
  1328. 48:37Rebellion Pro. Hyperwarp Pro.
  1329. 48:41Hyperwarp Pro. Man, so many different
  1330. 48:44names. All right, next one is leaning
  1331. 48:47Fadian Ultra 6. This is Yeah, this is S
  1332. 48:51tier. Um, I would have it above the
  1333. 48:54Ultra 5 and the Elite 6. Um, I think it
  1334. 48:59offers one of the most smooth
  1335. 49:01mechanical, assistive, and protective
  1336. 49:04rides out there. Uh, but I do think it
  1337. 49:07would probably lose out to the C10 Pro 2
  1338. 49:09now after doing a little bit more
  1339. 49:10running in that one just in terms of
  1340. 49:13propulsion and that kind of like raw
  1341. 49:15power feel. This feels kind of subtly
  1342. 49:19efficient and smooth, whereas this is
  1343. 49:21kind of outlandish and ridiculous and in
  1344. 49:23your face. Um, I think it would probably
  1345. 49:25suit slightly different people and
  1346. 49:27preferences, but I think they're both in
  1347. 49:29that S tier in terms of that kind of raw
  1348. 49:32performance, that assistance, that
  1349. 49:34smoothness. Um, both very, very capable.
  1350. 49:37This Oh, that was actually it. Maybe I
  1351. 49:39did need to expand it out. All right,
  1352. 49:41let's have a quick run through. Bit of a
  1353. 49:43summary. S tier here, PB Pro Fast R3,
  1354. 49:46C10 Pro 2, 160X, Ultra 6, Ultra 5, Elite
  1355. 49:516, and the Hyperwarp Pure. So few things
  1356. 49:56leaning. It's got a couple in there
  1357. 49:57doing pretty good things with their
  1358. 49:58foams, their geometries, their use of
  1359. 50:00carbon plates. Um Ant, it's good that
  1360. 50:03your $500 Super Shoe has made it into S
  1361. 50:05tier. Would be a little bit concerned if
  1362. 50:07it wasn't. 160X is still hanging around
  1363. 50:10even though it's 5 years old. Fast R3
  1364. 50:13ridiculous propulsive doin PB Pro. If
  1365. 50:16that's what you can make for 250 bucks.
  1366. 50:19I can't wait to see what they do when
  1367. 50:20they update it. I'll flash a picture of
  1368. 50:22the prototype on screen. It looks
  1369. 50:24insanely good. And then Mazuno Hyperwol
  1370. 50:26Pure, super light, super smooth. I'm not
  1371. 50:28going to run through every single list,
  1372. 50:30but just kind of general overview, you
  1373. 50:32got most of the ones which I think
  1374. 50:33everyone would probably accept are in
  1375. 50:35that kind of A tier zone. Um, I think
  1376. 50:38the more kind of notable ones would be
  1377. 50:40uh the Cello X, which I probably would
  1378. 50:43have had in B tier last year, CL X2. Um,
  1379. 50:46I think that the Alphal is slipping. I
  1380. 50:48think we probably need to see something
  1381. 50:49from that pretty soon before it becomes
  1382. 50:52a little bit clunky, a little bit
  1383. 50:53irrelevant. Uh, Hypercharge, very nice
  1384. 50:56from you guys. Like that. Uh, and then a
  1385. 50:58couple of very cheap um but good Chinese
  1386. 51:02um Hypershoe um entries. I think that's
  1387. 51:06one thing that I've noticed with my
  1388. 51:07testing in the last couple months is
  1389. 51:09that it's very easy for a lot of these
  1390. 51:11brands to jump to market with something
  1391. 51:13which is good like straight away. light
  1392. 51:16foams, simple geometries, it's very easy
  1393. 51:18to make a good super shoe these days
  1394. 51:20with a lightweight technology. I think
  1395. 51:22you can kind of compensate for any
  1396. 51:24deficiencies in, you know, geometry or,
  1397. 51:27you know, in Dino Fish's case, the fact
  1398. 51:29that I could feel the shank through the
  1399. 51:30forefoot wasn't that big of a deal
  1400. 51:32because the ride was so good in the half
  1401. 51:34marathon marathon paces, I was willing
  1402. 51:36to kind of risk it. Um, Btier, fair few
  1403. 51:39Super shoes, which I think are a little
  1404. 51:41bit more stable and comfortable, which
  1405. 51:42is good. Um, the main recommendations
  1406. 51:44are stuff like the Infinite 2, Wave, not
  1407. 51:48Wave, Hyperwarp Pro, Rocket X3, uh, the
  1408. 51:51Infinite 4 I think could be pretty solid
  1409. 51:53option for a lot of you. Fair options in
  1410. 51:56there. There's only one Ctier, uh, which
  1411. 51:58would be the Fly 2, uh, and no Dtier, so
  1412. 52:01maybe I should have got rid of that, but
  1413. 52:02thought there might be one, but maybe I
  1414. 52:05changed my mind. Uh, yeah, that's that.
  1415. 52:07Bit of a long video, little bit chaotic.
  1416. 52:09I will improve my tier list technique
  1417. 52:11moving forwards. Hopefully this all
  1418. 52:12comes together nicely. Let me know if
  1419. 52:15you want to see any other topics put
  1420. 52:16through the tier list format. Stuff like
  1421. 52:18brand ranking, super trainer ranking,
  1422. 52:20daily trainer ranking. I'm sure there's
  1423. 52:21some other things we could chat about as
  1424. 52:23well. I'll put this into an Instagram
  1425. 52:24graphic. Um, also just to make it look a
  1426. 52:27little bit more pretty, but obviously
  1427. 52:29benefit here is that we can chat through
  1428. 52:30it, give a bit of justification. Yeah,
  1429. 52:33look, that's pretty much it. Thanks for
  1430. 52:34watching. Like, subscribe, share, all
  1431. 52:36that kind of stuff. Uh, what else? Super
  1432. 52:39thanks. If you feel like I've saved you
  1433. 52:40some money, shout me a coffee.

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