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0:00Hello everyone. Hope you're doing well.
0:02We have some more leaks from the guys
0:05who usually leak a lot of stuff about
0:07the future of War Thunder. These leaks
0:09used to be big lists of vehicles that
0:11were coming out in the next major
0:13update. And to be quite honest, they
0:15were usually pretty correct. It was
0:17pretty wild. Usually 90 to 95% true. But
0:21unfortunately over the last little
0:23period they've become a little bit more
0:25vague and have gone for more grandiose
0:28ideas instead of the actual vehicles
0:31themselves. These kind of pertain to
0:34changes in War Thunder's history uh in
0:37terms of how they also release stuff.
0:39But at the same time I think a bit of a
0:41change in terms of the guys themselves
0:44especially with a few controversies that
0:46happened over the last few years. One of
0:48them, of course, being the whole Kofox
0:50drama. It seems like the leaks have
0:52taken a little bit of a different stage
0:55of things where instead of going after
0:58specific updates, they're just going
1:00after specific communities and ideas.
1:02And that's exactly what we see with this
1:04league list. And unfortunately, this
1:07year, the track record of the guys who
1:09used to be pretty much 100% on the ball,
1:12it's not exactly been the case. And
1:14we'll go through that in this here. So
1:16everything we talk about it could
1:18definitely happen. It's coming from a
1:20pretty reliable source. But just
1:22understand over the last period of time
1:24that reliability has definitely
1:26decreased. As always, if you enjoy the
1:29content, make sure to subscribe and like
1:31the video. Let's get into it. The first
1:34piece of the leaks is about a new set of
1:38content that's coming to the game.
1:39Submarines, of course. they were
1:41announced in the community update. So,
1:43it looks like they're coming in in a
1:45certain area. And then also even going
1:47back over a year now, there was Gajin
1:51talking about the fact that they were
1:52going to add submarines. In December of
1:542025, BVVD talked about the fact that
1:58they were looking to add them. They were
1:59just trying to work out how to fit them
2:01in the game, which I think is fair since
2:03at least in the standard game modes,
2:04they wouldn't really make a lot of
2:06sense. But in this leak right now, it
2:09says the first four nations to receive
2:12submarines will be Germany, US, UK, and
2:16also Japan. This all makes sense. These
2:19four nations of course built and
2:21produced quite a lot of submarines and
2:23then also at the same time you have the
2:25two allied nations and you have the two
2:27Axis nations. If we have a look at how
2:30Gajun has released content in the past,
2:32when it came to naval, you had the
2:34American tech tree, the German tech
2:36tree, and the Russian tech tree, uh,
2:38which were all kind of added similarly
2:40at the same time during CBT. For
2:42infantry, you have America and you have
2:44Russia, which obviously it's more Korean
2:47War to modern day. So once again, east
2:49versus west idea. And then when even
2:51when it comes to ground, the first
2:53nations that were added were Germany and
2:55Russia. Once again, axis versus allied.
2:58Even aviation kind of had the same thing
3:01with the three to four and then five
3:03tech trees that were first added in the
3:06game's history. So, seeing the first
3:08four nations to receive submarines being
3:11Germany, America, Britain, and Japan, it
3:14just kind of makes sense. If anything,
3:16it's just a bit odd how it's four
3:17nations instead of the two or three
3:19which they've done in the past. The
3:21other part which is kind of surprising
3:23is the Germany and Japan will receive
3:26premium submarines as the opener for the
3:29new mode. So first of all, looks like
3:31they're doing a new mode for submarines,
3:33which I mean we could have guessed,
3:34right? Because BVD and also many of the
3:37other gadget guys have talked about the
3:39fact how submarines don't really work in
3:42the way that uh War Thunder naval
3:44actually works right now. Maybe you
3:46could fit them in the EC mode, but they
3:48definitely don't work in the standard
3:50modes. Maybe they're going to bring a
3:52Bass of Atlantic setup back, which was
3:54obviously a test for a game mode/event,
3:57which the submarines would be involved
3:59in. The only weird thing about this is
4:02the fact that Germany and Japan would
4:04get premiums, but not America, and also
4:07not the UK. Uh, the simple fact is it
4:11would make sense to do one on one side
4:12and then one on the other. This is what
4:14they've done many times over uh in terms
4:18of different areas, but for some reason,
4:20at least in the leak list, uh it says
4:23that only the Axis side of things would
4:26be getting premium subs. Is no surprise
4:28to me that Germany would be getting a
4:30premium sub. It is also no surprise to
4:32me that Japan would as well since both
4:34of these nations are very, very big on
4:37the submarine side of things from the
4:39Second World War. But not adding one in
4:41for Britain and also not one adding one
4:44in for America. Especially since you
4:45could just pick variants of very
4:47specific submarines that they made a ton
4:49of would be very surprising to me since
4:52whenever they've added techries in the
4:54past, each one of them has had a premium
4:56attached to it in order to help with the
4:58grind. The next part of it is also
5:01modern ships coming after submarines. I
5:04mean, this is kind of a no-brainer.
5:06[laughter]
5:07I don't know how else to put it, but the
5:09simple fact is is they don't really have
5:12anywhere else to go uh with the naval
5:15side of things. I I could say this is
5:16pretty much an educated guess. Gajun
5:18have already denied working on stuff
5:20like carriers in a big way in terms of
5:23adding them to the standard naval game
5:25modes. And then also the fact is they're
5:28kind of tapped out on battleships. You
5:30have some project battleships that they
5:32can add, which is definitely true. And
5:34also you can add in some more modern
5:36stuff. But whatever modern ships means
5:38as well because this is the other thing.
5:40We've talked about this quite a lot on
5:42the channel where people just say when
5:44are going to when are you going to add
5:46modern ships and it seems like when
5:48people actually say modern ships, what
5:50they mean is ships with very advanced
5:52anti-ship missiles. Because we have
5:54modern ships in the game. We have ships
5:57from the '90s. We have ships from the
5:5880s. They've recently been adding a lot
6:01of anti-air naval missile machines which
6:04are from the 50s,60s and 70s. So all of
6:08these types of vehicles I would say are
6:09pretty modern. But my guess is when
6:11people say modern ships it's more of a
6:13synonym for ships with anti-ship
6:16missiles which we also have in the game
6:17by the way such as thea which exists but
6:20never mind. But yeah, you could make a
6:22pretty educated guess that after
6:24submarines, they're going to start
6:26adding in more anti-ship missile ships
6:29because guess what? There's nothing else
6:31for them to add. And as we know with
6:33Gajin, they'll just keep on adding
6:35stuff. The only question with Naval is
6:37how do you fit it into the standard game
6:39modes? And if they're going to create
6:40new modes, then you don't have to do
6:42that anymore. And one of the next leaks
6:44is that there's going to be new game
6:45modes for World War II and also postwar
6:48submarines. No surprise here at all that
6:51they would make game modes specifically
6:52designed for these vehicles because
6:54they're just not going to work in the
6:55standard game modes. This is obviously
6:58something that was going to happen,
7:00especially with the expansion of game
7:01modes that we've seen already. Gadin
7:03already talked about the fact that they
7:05were doing this and once again it was in
7:08the Battle of Atlantic setup where it
7:10was pretty obvious that they were
7:11testing certain ideas with the whole
7:13kind of anti-submarine versus submarine
7:16idea. So overall all the submarine news
7:20really cool but at the same time a lot
7:22of it was already talked about
7:24previously and uh the nation stuff once
7:27again makes sense apart from the premium
7:29bit which is a little bit dodgy. Now the
7:32next part is fifth generation jets. Now
7:34fifth generation jets were actually
7:36leaked by this same group but they were
7:39wrong uh about the leak. They said that
7:41they would come way earlier than they
7:43actually did. And Gajin even made a post
7:46clarifying that no, Gen Gen 5 jets will
7:50not be coming when people are saying
7:52that they are. They will come much later
7:54on. Talking about the fact that the
7:56first iteration of them will probably
7:57come in late 2026 or 2027. Well, guess
8:02what? We're in late 2026 now. And
8:05there's two updates left. So, it's
8:07either going to come this update or next
8:08update. And that's because once again
8:11that's what Kajin already said. So this
8:13isn't really a leak. This is just
8:15repeating something that was talked
8:16about previously. And the uh leak part I
8:20suppose is the first fifth gen aircraft
8:22will arrive for America, Russia and also
8:25China. And overall this would make
8:28sense, right? They're the three major
8:30powerhouses that are around. The only
8:32thing that is a little bit interesting
8:34is first of all America, Russia and
8:37China do supply a lot of their jets to
8:39other nations in the world. So, the fact
8:42that these three would be getting them
8:43first, but then other nations wouldn't
8:46be getting export vehicles or wouldn't
8:48be getting vehicles which are similar
8:50would be kind of interesting because it
8:52would pretty much mean that nobody would
8:54play those nations until they got those
8:56vehicles added, which would just be
8:58variants of the ones that are already
9:00added to the American, Russian, and
9:02Chinese tech tree. The real question is
9:04which ones do you pick for each of the
9:06nations? And unfortunately the leak list
9:08doesn't have any information on that
9:10because as I said more recently this set
9:13of leakers instead of leaking vehicles
9:15or you know leaking whole updates they
9:18instead just leak vague posts about
9:21things like this which is super
9:22annoying. So the next part is next
9:25generation AM will also come with fifth
9:27gen aircraft earliest end of 2026 or
9:30early 2027.
9:32Once again, this makes sense because as
9:35you get new technology, you are also
9:37going to get new uh kind of mechanics
9:40with it and also armaments. The funny
9:43thing about a lot of the gadget guys, if
9:45people have been asking for the next
9:47generation of AM for the longest time
9:49and they keep saying over and over again
9:52they wouldn't be good in the game, they
9:54would be overpowered at this moment. And
9:57you know exactly what that means when
9:58they say at this moment. It means that
10:01in the future when they do add these
10:02things, they will add them too because
10:04otherwise there wouldn't really be a
10:06reason to uh kind of play the vehicles
10:09because they wouldn't have anything new
10:11to them. That's the thing. You have to
10:13think about the evolution of the game.
10:15You have to think about how it's going
10:16to evolve. And one of the big ways that
10:18it evolves, at least in terms of
10:20aircraft, is the weapons that they have
10:22access to and also the additional
10:24electronic systems. So, I'm sure that
10:27RWRs and radars and also the stealth
10:29stuff that they're going to add in will
10:31be really cool to see, but also they're
10:33going to sweeten the deal with some next
10:35generation anti-air missiles, too,
10:37because of course they are. It would
10:38make sense to do so. And being the
10:40earliest end of 2026 or early 2027, as I
10:44said, these guys already predicted that
10:47Gen 5 aircraft would be out earlier than
10:50this. So, their first prediction was
10:52wrong. And we'll have to see if this
10:54prediction which is pretty much based on
10:56what Gajun have said publicly is right
10:58or not. And the question or the answer
11:01is yeah, it'll be right because once
11:03again Gajun said this, not random leaks.
11:07Then uh the next part just seems a bit
11:10wild. Um and this is where it kind of
11:13goes a bit off the rails. So number one,
11:16Swiss tanks delayed due to French
11:19community push back against Swiss
11:21vehicles for Germany. So this
11:26I don't know where this push back is
11:29from. Uh I I look around millions of
11:33Discords. I look around the forums. I
11:36look around all the different community
11:37areas. And yes, when these Swiss
11:39vehicles were added to uh Germany in the
11:43form of the air vehicles, there was a
11:45few people saying, well, why can't they
11:46be added to France, but then the France
11:48got the bender look stuff and then the
11:50French mains ended up complaining about
11:52that because they want France to be a
11:55pure tech tree. And you get the standard
11:57stuff with every single tech tree. When
11:59you have a look at mainers, uh, when
12:01they play only one specific tech tree,
12:03they want their tech tree to be the
12:05best. They don't want it to be impure
12:06and they just want it to represent the
12:09nation itself. This is something that
12:11has been in terms of War Thunder
12:14something that has happened forever. So
12:16the idea that now after all of this
12:19time, especially when this actually
12:21coincides with a wrong leak that these
12:24guys said, now it matters when it didn't
12:27matter a million times before. like well
12:30for example the Greeks and the Israeli
12:32tech tree uh the Dutch in the French
12:34teary, the Belgians in the French
12:37territory technically Luxembourg in
12:39there like all of these different
12:40nations all of the South African stuff
12:43and the British tech tree there was a
12:44big push back against the South African
12:46stuff because there's a lot of South
12:47Africans who thought that it should be
12:49an independent tech tree right but the
12:51idea that for some reason the Swiss
12:53tanks were delayed due to French
12:56community push back against Swiss
12:57vehicles for Germany Why would that
13:00matter? [laughter] Like why why why if
13:02if that was the case, they' just add
13:04them both to each nations, wouldn't
13:05they? Just like they have done in the
13:07past with the SK 105 and also the JAPZ.
13:10But also delaying them like what what is
13:14that going to do for the push back side
13:15of things? What is that going to sort
13:17out? This very much smells like the VT
13:20the VT4 stuff again where what happens
13:23is the leakers leaked something that
13:26doesn't happen and uh was literally said
13:30about a minute after it was leaked that
13:33no this is not happening we are not
13:36doing this and now they're trying to
13:38find reasons why Gajjun aren't doing the
13:41thing and this is the part of the leak
13:44stuff that I got very much sick with a
13:46few years ago and it's just continued.
13:48So basically these leakers last year
13:52said that in Q1 of this year which would
13:55be the first update of the year in
13:57February or March like that area the
14:00Swiss tanks would be added to the German
14:03tech tree. That's what they said. It
14:05didn't happen.
14:07But now after the fact later on
14:11near well we're near November when the
14:14leak was shown to be false because guess
14:16what the Swiss tanks didn't turn up at
14:18that time. They've now come up with a
14:20ridiculous reason why it didn't happen
14:23which is French community push back for
14:26Swiss vehicles for Germany.
14:29Oh man. And then the next part as well,
14:32there was a French community pushing
14:34back against occupied France inspired
14:36map. And once again, this was another
14:38leak that came out. If you remember,
14:41this actually happened several times.
14:43There was a leak that Gajun were working
14:45on a Paris kind of 1944 map and it was
14:50leaked a few times, but there's been
14:53absolutely nothing shown of it from
14:55Guardian's point of view. This was
14:57leaked a few years ago now and it's just
14:59never materialized. So this is just
15:02another leak which oh magically somehow
15:04this this massive French community has
15:07turned around and made it so gajun
15:10aren't going to add in a map. I don't
15:12get why the French community would be
15:14annoyed with a France inspired map in
15:18occupied France. We already have a bunch
15:20of them in the bloody game including the
15:23Normandy maps. So why would that matter?
15:27Or what about uh what about the Majino
15:30line map, you know? Or what about the
15:33Ardens for the Belgians? What was there
15:36no push back? Why what are you talking
15:38about? Why what is this push back you
15:41talk about?
15:43Oh my god. This is why this is why I
15:46can't I find it so hard to take this
15:48stuff seriously. Like we already have
15:50occupied French maps in the game. So,
15:53like the idea that if there's another
15:55occupied French map that's being worked
15:58on and that that somehow everybody knows
16:01about that supposedly exists, you know,
16:03once again this leaked Paris 1944 map, I
16:06think I remember it was. And now it's
16:09it's just not going to be worked on and
16:11it's not going to come out because the
16:13French community, whoever they are,
16:16wherever they are around the place,
16:17they're just like, "No, you can't do
16:19this. We will burn down everything."
16:21Like, what are you talking about?
16:23It makes no sense. Like if you just
16:26think about it for three seconds, it
16:28makes no sense. And then the next point,
16:30paper tanks are now possible for events,
16:33the OI, the LV, the etc.
16:37So, Gajjun
16:40would remove a bunch of fake tanks from
16:42the tech trees
16:44and then they would have fake vehicles
16:48for events.
16:51That's the leak.
16:54And by the way, they put in the leak the
16:56OI, the LVA, etc. I just want to let you
17:00guys know with the whole reproduction,
17:02right? When it was removed, people were
17:05asking, well, what about stuff like the
17:07OI? Does that make the cut for things
17:09like this? and a bunch of Gajjun
17:11employees came out and said, "No, the OI
17:15does not make sense in terms of adding
17:17it into the game because there is not
17:19enough information and at the same time
17:22we cannot add a historical vehicles. It
17:25would make absolutely no sense for Gajin
17:28to remove a bunch of vehicles from the
17:30game and then just add in other ones
17:33under the same criteria as event
17:35vehicles." Now, the thing is this could
17:38definitely change. Their opinion on it
17:40could change. It could they could change
17:43it. And as I've said many times, I think
17:45eventually they will because they'll
17:46want to add these things at some point
17:49because they'll just run out of what
17:51would be interesting vehicles into the
17:53game. And we already there are certain
17:55event vehicles, by the way, that are
17:57paper vehicles. The J6K1 in the Japanese
18:00tech tree is not a real vehicle. It was
18:03never finished. it never got past mockup
18:05stage. There is also other ones which
18:07have a lot of features to them which
18:09never really existed or did not work
18:11like they are in the game. So it is
18:14definitely possible that Gajjun could
18:16definitely bring in paper tanks for
18:17events. But right now after the hoi
18:20stuff that went on, after the PT76 stuff
18:23for China, after many of the other
18:25decisions they made the last little bit,
18:28and also categorically denying the
18:31addition of stuff like the OI, even
18:33after the whole reproduction, by the
18:35way, which was the whole reproduction
18:38was not removed that long ago. We're
18:39talking like a month and a half, two
18:41months. And to see them like change this
18:44quickly and have these things possible
18:46for events, it could happen. It could
18:49happen, but it would just go against
18:51every piece of logic that exists. Okay,
18:55so we'll see how that goes. And then
18:57also, cluster bombs were announced, but
18:59the devs kept having issues with them,
19:01so the feature might be delayed, which
19:04is fair. You know, if if that's the
19:06case, then say we'll see them in
19:08December then, won't we? because it's
19:11kind of wild at the end of the year when
19:13you have two updates so close to each
19:15other. We have the November updates and
19:17then we have the December updates which
19:19makes this area of time so hectic. But
19:22that would suck if that's the case, you
19:24know, cuz it's always nice to see these
19:26new things that uh that Gajin hype up
19:29about, but if they don't work, they
19:30don't work. And as always with Gajin,
19:33they'll get added eventually anyway. But
19:37overall, I just feel like this leak
19:40list, which as I said, these guys used
19:42to get everything right. This this set
19:44of guys who is behind this, they used to
19:47they used to be bang on when it came to
19:49the vehicles and they were 100%
19:52trustworthy. But over the last few
19:55years, they have got stuff wrong and
19:57their reputation is unfortunately going
20:00down because they just keep putting in
20:02these weird things that don't
20:04materialize.
20:06And well, we'll see if this one's the
20:09part of it or not, or if we are just
20:12once again sat in the doldrums. As
20:15always, take leaks with a pinch of salt.
20:19I'll take this one with a whole jar of
20:22the stuff or a whole barrel because if
20:25all this stuff comes true, fundamental
20:28rules of War Thunder will have had to
20:31change. Look after yourselves. Peace be
20:34with you. I'll see you next time.
20:51[music]
20:59>> [music]

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