The True Cost — Transcript
Full transcript
- 0:49[music]
- 1:07[music]
- 1:12[music]
- 1:17this is a story about clothing
- 1:20it's about the clothes we wear [music]
- 1:22the people who make these clothes and
- 1:24the impact that it's having on our world
- 1:26[music]
- 1:30it's a story about greed and fear power
- 1:33[music]
- 1:33and poverty
- 1:35it's complex as it extends all the way
- 1:38around the world but it's also simple
- 1:41revealing just how connected we are to
- 1:42the many hearts [music] and hands behind
- 1:44our clothes
- 1:50[music]
- 1:51I came into the story with no background
- 1:53of fashion at all beginning with nothing
- 1:55more than a few simple [music] questions
- 1:58what I've discovered has forever never
- 1:59changed the way I think about the things
- 2:01I wear and my hope is that it might just
- 2:05do [music] the same for you
- 2:20maybe just start and and say your name
- 2:22and talk about how this kind of began my
- 2:25name is Lucy seagull I am a journalist
- 2:27and broadcaster based in the UK okay and
- 2:31I have been obsessed consumed with the
- 2:34environmental and social [music] impacts
- 2:37of the fashion industry for about a
- 2:39decade
- 2:41well I love everything about clothes you
- 2:43know I love I love the Poetry I love the
- 2:45fabric I love the colors I love the
- 2:47textures I love the way that they make
- 2:49you feel you know they are our chosen
- 2:52skin well I had the classic [music]
- 2:57massive closet clothes everywhere
- 3:00bags [music] constantly coming into my
- 3:02house you know every day every other day
- 3:04with some other item in and never had
- 3:06anything to wear I could never put
- 3:08together a coherent outfit
- 3:13we communicate [music] who we are to a
- 3:15certain extent through clothing and this
- 3:17is this is again throughout [music]
- 3:19history you know you have the trends at
- 3:21court you know again Mar Antoinette
- 3:23making this huge hats it's always been
- 3:26it's our personal Communication in
- 3:28[music] many ways that's what interests
- 3:30me that it is fundamentally a part of
- 3:33what um we wish to communicate about
- 3:36[music] ourselves
- 3:43and we used to have a system a fashion
- 3:45system where people [music] would go to
- 3:46the uh shows so they would do spring
- 3:48summer awesome winter and those kind of
- 3:51ran like clockwork for very many years
- 3:53[music] okay rip that up throw it out
- 3:55the window that has absolutely nothing
- 3:57to do with the fashion industry today it
- 4:00has been reinvented
- 4:02the shift is moving ruthlessly
- 4:05um towards
- 4:08a way of producing which only really
- 4:13looks after big business [music]
- 4:15interest
- 4:18growing up I never gave much thought to
- 4:20anything other than the price of the
- 4:21clothes that I bought usually making
- 4:23choices based on the style or a good
- 4:25deal
- 4:27looking back I learned that for a long
- 4:28time most of clothing was actually made
- 4:30right here in America
- 4:32as recently as the 1960s we were still
- 4:34making 95% of our clothes today we only
- 4:38make about 3% and the other 97% is
- 4:41outsourced to developing countries
- 4:43around the world
- 4:49I've been in the business for over 9
- 4:51years now in terms of scale we got about
- 4:5325,000 people just on G Manufacturing
- 4:56side we produce one in six dressers sold
- 4:59in a us
- 5:02if you actually go to the store and you
- 5:04Benchmark the price of a a garment over
- 5:07the last 20 years you will find that
- 5:09it's actually a deflationary product I
- 5:12the price has gone down [music] over
- 5:13time now has our cost gone down
- 5:15absolutely not okay the cost has gone up
- 5:19the more production we've outsourced the
- 5:21cheaper prices have become on the
- 5:22clothing we buy making way for a whole
- 5:24new model known as fast fashion almost
- 5:28overnight transform the way clothing is
- 5:30bought and sold the newest H&M store on
- 5:34fth Avenue [music] in Manhattan is the
- 5:35company's largest ever and just one of
- 5:37many new stores that's planning around
- 5:39the country it's all part of a High
- 5:41Street Revolution fast fashion instead
- 5:44of two seasons a year we practically
- 5:46have 52 Seasons a year so we have
- 5:48something new coming in every week and
- 5:50fast fashion has created this so that it
- 5:53can essentially shift more product
- 6:05we
- 6:07you can get this Fringe metallic [music]
- 6:08skirt for $39 at Joe Fresh a brand new
- 6:11store in town with price tags that might
- 6:13look a little bit more appealing to
- 6:14budget conscious Shoppers American
- 6:16[music] consumers they really have
- 6:18grasped the fashion part of H&M and we
- 6:21know from before that American consumers
- 6:22are very value oriented if you match
- 6:24these two [music] together with fashion
- 6:26and value then you have a recipe one
- 6:28Japanese CL clothing [music] retailer
- 6:30it's making a Fast and Furious march
- 6:32here in the US the price has dropped
- 6:34[music]
- 6:35the way of making that product has
- 6:38completely completely changed and you
- 6:40have to ask yourself at some point where
- 6:42does it end the global Marketplace is
- 6:45someplace where we export work to have
- 6:48happen in whatever conditions we want
- 6:50and then the products come back to me
- 6:52cheap enough to throw away without
- 6:54thinking about it
- 6:58well globalized production ction
- 7:00basically means that all of the making
- 7:02of goods has been outsourced to lowcost
- 7:05economies particularly where wages are
- 7:08very low and kept low and what that
- 7:10means is that those at the top of the
- 7:12value chain they get to choose where the
- 7:15products are being made and they get to
- 7:17switch if for example one Factory says
- 7:20we can't make it that cheap anymore the
- 7:22brand will say well we're not going to
- 7:24come to you anymore we're going to
- 7:25switch to another place which is cheaper
- 7:36in the west they using everyday low
- 7:38price so every day they're hamping me
- 7:41and I'm hamping my workers this is how
- 7:43it is they're competing the stores are
- 7:46competing in there when the stores are
- 7:47coming to us for order and negotiating
- 7:50they're telling look that particular
- 7:52store is selling this shirt with like $5
- 7:55so I needed to sell it in the $4 so you
- 7:59better squeeze our price so we are
- 8:00squeezing then other store is coming and
- 8:02selling hey they're selling it the $4 so
- 8:05the Target price is three if you can
- 8:06meet the three you are getting business
- 8:08otherwise you are not getting because we
- 8:11want that business so badly and we don't
- 8:13have other options okay every time we
- 8:16are trying to okay survive actually
- 8:19ultimately something's going to give
- 8:21either the price of the product has to
- 8:22go up or manufacturers have to shut down
- 8:27or cut Corners to make it work cutting
- 8:30corners and disregarding safety measures
- 8:32had become an accepted part of doing
- 8:33business in this [music] new model until
- 8:35an early morning in April when an event
- 8:37just outside of DACA Bangladesh brought
- 8:39a hidden side of fashion to front page
- 8:41news Well State media in Bangladesh say
- 8:44an eight-story building has collapsed
- 8:46near the capital of Daka killing [music]
- 8:48more than 70 people
- 9:01rescue workers are racing Against Time
- 9:04searching through the rubble trying to
- 9:06find as many survivors as they can
- 9:10hundreds are dead hundreds more might
- 9:12still be buried alive after officials in
- 9:14Bangladesh say [music] Factory owners
- 9:15ignored and ordered to evacuate some 400
- 9:19dead hundreds still believe to be
- 9:21missing garment workers in Bangladesh
- 9:24paying the price for cheap clothing a
- 9:26huge crowd has gathered near the
- 9:28building side many of them [music]
- 9:30family members looking for loved ones
- 9:32and they say they can still hear people
- 9:34screaming from underneath the rubble
- 9:37crying out for help many are simply
- 9:40losing hope
- 10:16anybody who like me had written about
- 10:21problems in the supply chain
- 10:23particularly for fast fashion and try to
- 10:26articulate
- 10:28how the risk was being [music] carried
- 10:31by those who are most vulnerable and the
- 10:34worst paid you Tred to articulate that
- 10:38but you could never have envisaged that
- 10:40there would be such a catastrophic
- 10:42illustration of what you were [music]
- 10:44trying to say and ra Plaza to me was
- 10:47like some Horror Story
- 10:50two weeks after the catastrophe and the
- 10:52death toll now stands [music] at a
- 10:54staggering 931
- 10:56making it the worst garment industry
- 10:58disaster in history I think one of the
- 11:01the the most profoundly impressing
- 11:04things about the Run of Plaza [music]
- 11:06disaster was that news that the workers
- 11:09had already pointed out to the
- 11:11management the cracks [music] in the
- 11:13building had they they'd already pointed
- 11:15out that the building was structurally
- 11:17unsafe [music]
- 11:18and yet they'd been forced back in many
- 11:21survivors are asking how they could have
- 11:23been forced to return to work when
- 11:25management already was aware of the
- 11:27cracks [music] in the building and
- 11:28workers concerns on the very day of the
- 11:30collapse a lot of clothes in American
- 11:33stores are made in Bangladesh by workers
- 11:35who earn about $2 a [music] day last
- 11:38month there a garment Factory collapsed
- 11:41killing more than 1,000 and a few months
- 11:44before that a factory fire killed more
- 11:47than 100 and his bodies [music] are
- 11:49still being pulled out of the rubble
- 11:51another Factory in Bangladesh caught
- 11:53fire early this morning killing eight
- 11:55more people as story after Story of
- 11:58clothing Factory disasters kept filling
- 11:59[music] the news it was now the case
- 12:01that three of the four worst tragedies
- 12:04in the history of fashion had all
- 12:06happened [music] in the last year as the
- 12:08death toll Rose so did the profits
- 12:10generated the year following the
- 12:12disaster at Rana Plaza was the
- 12:14industry's most profitable of all time
- 12:17the global fashion industry is now an
- 12:19almost $3 trillion annual industry
- 12:22Bangladesh is now the second largest
- 12:24apparel exporter after China how well
- 12:28unlike some of its competitors
- 12:30Bangladeshi manufacturing remains dirt
- 12:32cheap and unions have limited power the
- 12:35country cornered the absolute bottom of
- 12:38the value chain those 1,000 poor girls
- 12:44lost their life because everybody didn't
- 12:47bother didn't give damn [ __ ] and they
- 12:51just wanted the cheap price and a good
- 12:52profit it shouldn't be like that
- 12:55everybody should take the responsibility
- 12:56for those kids
- 13:03that's how it is
- 13:05and it might come in coming more sorry
- 13:08but yeah you know that it's not only the
- 13:11Press pressure it's something ignoring
- 13:14other people's life is it's it's not it
- 13:16should it's not right it's 21st century
- 13:20it's a global world we are living and we
- 13:23just ignore other people's life how come
- 13:26this enormous
- 13:28acious industry that is generating so
- 13:32much profit for a handful of people
- 13:35why is it that it is unable to support
- 13:39millions of its workers properly why is
- 13:42it that it is not able to guarantee
- 13:44their safety we're talking about
- 13:46essential human rights why is it unable
- 13:49to guarantee that whilst generating
- 13:51these tremendous profits is it because
- 13:53it doesn't work properly that is my
- 13:55question
- 13:58Lucy question sounds like the obvious
- 14:00one but instead of answering it
- 14:02everywhere I looked I found people who
- 14:03were constantly justifying the cost
- 14:06because of the economic benefits being
- 14:07generated so [music] this low-wage
- 14:10manufacturing or so-called sweat shops
- 14:13they're not just the least bad option
- 14:14workers have today they're part of the
- 14:16very process that raises living
- 14:18standards [music] and leads to higher
- 14:20wages and better working conditions over
- 14:22time your proximate causes of
- 14:23development are [music] physical capital
- 14:26technology and human capital or skills
- 14:28of the workers when sweat shops come to
- 14:30these countries they bring all three of
- 14:32those [music] to these workers and start
- 14:34getting that process going is it
- 14:36possible that sweat shops are actually
- 14:39good yes horrible awful sweat shops the
- 14:41word itself sweat shop it evokes
- 14:44terrible images of poor people and
- 14:46children suffering in third world
- 14:47countries slaving away in awful
- 14:50conditions to make products [music]
- 14:51for us selfish Americans thank you what
- 14:55does [music] it does it bother me that
- 14:57people are working in a a factory making
- 14:59clothes for
- 15:01[music] Americans or for you know
- 15:04Europeans or that they're that's how
- 15:06they're spending their lives
- 15:09is that what you're [music] kind of
- 15:10asking me um yeah sure um no I mean you
- 15:15know they're doing a job uh there are a
- 15:18lot worse things that they can be doing
- 15:20it is live television and I will ask you
- 15:22Define sweat shops yeah I think we have
- 15:24to be very clear what we're talking
- 15:26about from the outset so we're talking
- 15:28about places with very poor working
- 15:30conditions as us normal Americans would
- 15:31experience it very low wages by our
- 15:34standard maybe children working places
- 15:36that might not obey local labor laws but
- 15:38there's a key characteristics of the
- 15:40type of ones I want to talk to you about
- 15:41tonight [music] Kennedy and that's that
- 15:42there are places where people choose to
- 15:44work admittedly from a bad set of other
- 15:47options well I mean there's nothing
- 15:49intrinsically dangerous [music]
- 15:50with sewing clothes so so we're kind of
- 15:53starting out with [music] you know with
- 15:55a a relatively safe industry it's not
- 15:57like coal mining or or natural gas
- 16:00mining or you know a lot of things that
- 16:01you can that are much more dangerous so
- 16:04sweat shops jobs look like horrible
- 16:06working conditions and wages to anybody
- 16:09in the west who's wealthy [music] enough
- 16:10to own a TV and watch your video but we
- 16:14have to keep in mind that the
- 16:14Alternatives available for these workers
- 16:16[music] aren't our own Alternatives
- 16:18they're much worse than our Alternatives
- 16:20and they're usually much worse than the
- 16:22factory job that the worker has low
- 16:25wages unsafe conditions and Factory
- 16:27disasters are all excused because of the
- 16:30needed jobs they create for people with
- 16:32no Alternatives
- 16:34this story has become the narrative used
- 16:36to explain the way the fashion industry
- 16:38now operates all over the world but
- 16:41there are those who believe that there
- 16:42must be a better way of making and
- 16:44selling clothing that does generate
- 16:46economic growth but without taking such
- 16:48an enormous toll so we don't know yet um
- 16:53how long this embroidery is taking do
- 16:54you think you could ask chantu just just
- 16:57roughly how how long that whole panel is
- 16:59taking cuz I guess we'll see it later on
- 17:01in the FB price breakdown but it would
- 17:03be great to know wouldn't it so I'm
- 17:05safia mini I'm founder and CEO of people
- 17:08tree and uh people tree is a fair trade
- 17:11fashion brand that started over 20 years
- 17:13ago in Japan you were worried that we
- 17:15had a bit too much Navy what are you
- 17:17feeling now cuz we did put more black
- 17:19into ss14 and that has worked really
- 17:21really well with um Ora's
- 17:25um designer collaboration have we got
- 17:27enough black Print in the collection uh
- 17:30well we've lost that abstract dust print
- 17:33this one here in the black but I think
- 17:36this pink be really I think it's one of
- 17:39those prints that everyone's a bit
- 17:40nervous of but actually will do well
- 17:43I think most fashion brands start with a
- 17:47a concept of a collection or a look um
- 17:50they don't tend to think uh you know who
- 17:54is going to make the product and um how
- 17:57can I ensure that
- 17:59producers or or suppliers um are going
- 18:01to eat um so what we what we're trying
- 18:04to do at people tree is really start
- 18:05with uh the skills that we have at each
- 18:08producer group and then design The
- 18:10Collection up whilst also looking at the
- 18:12Integrity of the collection in its
- 18:15aesthetic
- 18:17I worked originally with freelance
- 18:19designers [music] and went into
- 18:21Bangladesh Zimbabwe India Nepal the
- 18:23Philippines and bit by bit we put
- 18:26together you know an amazing network of
- 18:28like-minded fair trade organizations
- 18:31that [music] put women's development you
- 18:34the workers Social Development and
- 18:36environment absolutely essential to
- 18:37everything they do
- 18:451 2 3 happy world fair trade day
- 18:51[cheering]
- 19:24f
- 19:28you this
- 19:34[music]
- 19:44[applause]
- 19:51[applause]
- 19:56[applause]
- 19:58[cheering]
- 19:59really really great
- 20:16that's beautiful fair trade is a
- 20:19Citizens response to correcting the
- 20:21social injustice in a international
- 20:23trading system that is largely
- 20:25dysfunctional where uh workers and
- 20:28farmers are not paid um a living wage
- 20:32and where the environment is is not
- 20:34considered at all to make the products
- 20:36that we buy every day
- 21:07Shima is one of about 40 million garment
- 21:09Factory workers in the world almost 4
- 21:12million of these workers are here in
- 21:13Bangladesh working in almost 5,000
- 21:16factories making clothing for major
- 21:17Western Brands
- 21:21over 85% of these workers are women and
- 21:24with a minimum wage of less than $3 a
- 21:26day they are among the lowest paid
- 21:28garment workers in the world
- 21:43[music]
- 22:01May NAD
- 22:12[music]
- 22:21[music]
- 22:29[music]
- 22:36the workers
- 22:38must not have any kind of distrust on
- 22:42their owns
- 22:44if they have
- 22:46there will not be any good working
- 22:49atmosphere in the factory they must
- 22:52respect our owner is paying us as per
- 22:56rule
- 22:58if they do not have this kind of
- 22:59confidence you won't get the result
- 23:56it's estimated that one in every six
- 23:58people alive in the world today work in
- 24:01some part of the global fashion industry
- 24:03making it the most labor dependent
- 24:05industry on Earth most of this work is
- 24:08done by people like Shima who have no
- 24:11voice in the larger [music] supply chain
- 24:13but to fully understand the impact that
- 24:15fashion is having on our world we have
- 24:17to go back to where it all begins
- 24:25my grandparents settled out here in the
- 24:2620s and so this is a part of my Heritage
- 24:29people ask why I'm an organic cotton
- 24:30Farm it's because I don't know any
- 24:32better my granddaddy was an old German
- 24:34farmer that felt like we should respect
- 24:36the land we're stewards of the land and
- 24:38we respect the life that's in the land
- 24:42you're actually sitting in uh the high
- 24:44plains of Texas and there's 3.6 million
- 24:47Acres of cotton grown in this region
- 24:49we're literally the biggest Cotton Patch
- 24:51in the world in just the past 10 years
- 24:5480% of that is now GMO genetically
- 24:57modified cotton most of it is uh Roundup
- 25:00Ready meaning that instead of the
- 25:02farmers spot spraying weeds occasionally
- 25:05in their field or hiring laborers to
- 25:08walk the field and eliminate the Weeds
- 25:10now they're spraying whole Fields cotton
- 25:13produces the fiber that's responsible
- 25:15for most of the clothing worn by the
- 25:16world today and as our appetite for
- 25:19fashion grows the cotton plant itself is
- 25:21being re-engineered to keep up there's
- 25:23been this big drive towards the
- 25:25industrialization of agriculture the
- 25:28intensification of Agriculture so
- 25:30instead of the old forms of farming
- 25:32which were very much in tune with nature
- 25:35they were they were linked to the cycles
- 25:37of the natural year and the seasons what
- 25:40you see now is an intensification where
- 25:42the land is almost reconsidered as if it
- 25:45was a factory
- 25:47what you've created is this general
- 25:49practice of we treat millions of Acres
- 25:53the same we put a dose of chemical on it
- 25:56all and that's when you get these big
- 25:59ecological effects that nobody has a
- 26:02grasp of what's really happening
- 26:06nature tends to heal itself in small
- 26:08Pockets
- 26:10but when you get this big broad approach
- 26:16we really don't know what's going on for
- 26:18us it's not reducing the amount of
- 26:21pesticides and chemicals that are going
- 26:22on the Cotton that's one of the big
- 26:24sales it reduces that not in our area
- 26:26where we are spraying
- 26:28millions and millions of acres and
- 26:30dollars of Roundup across the entire
- 26:33South Plains what kind of impact is that
- 26:35having on our soil with residual
- 26:38residuals that left at the microbacteria
- 26:40level what kind of impact is that having
- 26:42on the people in our communities where's
- 26:44the cost on that
- 26:50Monsanto [music] is proud to be the
- 26:51industry leader in agricultural
- 26:53Innovation because of what these
- 26:54agricultural [music] advancements can do
- 26:56to help you double deals for the future
- 26:58needs of the world we're dedicated
- 27:01[music] to the future of Agriculture and
- 27:03providing Farmers with innovations that
- 27:05help them produce more and conserve more
- 27:08while improving [music] the lives of
- 27:09people around the world together we can
- 27:13face the [music] challenges of the Next
- 27:14Generation
- 27:17and Beyond
- 27:29after the wars where all these redundant
- 27:32factories that made War chemicals
- 27:34explosives
- 27:35uh were lying around um
- 27:40the Western countries thought that it
- 27:43would be a good idea to Market them to
- 27:45the third world after all the same
- 27:47industry that makes explosives makes
- 27:49[music] nitrogen fertilizers
- 27:51and they started to push nitrogen
- 27:53fertilizers
- 27:54from the ' 50s onwards [music]
- 27:56after we became independent
- 27:58but the nitrogen fertilizers don't do
- 28:02very well with Native crops there's a
- 28:05problem of lodging so the whole system
- 28:09then organized itself to redesign the
- 28:11plant in order to take on more chemicals
- 28:15BT cotton is a cotton in [music] which a
- 28:17gene has been added from a bacteria to
- 28:21produce a [music] toxin but the BT
- 28:23cotton
- 28:25which is supposed to control a pest
- 28:28has been offered
- 28:30because it's a way for companies to own
- 28:33the seed by patenting these genetically
- 28:35modified plants Monsanto has become the
- 28:38[music] largest seed in Chemical
- 28:39Corporation in history I wanted to speak
- 28:42with someone who had worked with the
- 28:43company and I got word that a former
- 28:45managing director [music] for India was
- 28:47willing to talk one of my close friends
- 28:49who was in the research division working
- 28:51on this modified crops
- 28:53he came to my hotel for a drink
- 28:57we sitting having a drink and after a
- 28:59few drinks he told me hey we going to
- 29:02change type of business you're doing in
- 29:04India
- 29:06said what do you mean we going to get
- 29:09into seeds bus and we going to make seed
- 29:13business all crops so that we have the
- 29:16Monopoly on seeds
- 29:18and every Farm come to us to buy seeds
- 29:21every time
- 29:24that rang aell in my mind
- 29:27if four Farmers to go to Monsanto to buy
- 29:29seeds every time
- 29:32and such expensive seeds at the time
- 29:35there's no idea of BT at all for me
- 29:37Gally mod was not in my mind
- 29:40even seed Monopoly is something very bad
- 29:44so farmers get into debt when they get
- 29:46the seed because of the high cost
- 29:48177,000 more they get into deeper debt
- 29:51because it doesn't deliver on the
- 29:53promise of controlling pests so they
- 29:55have to buy more pesticides
- 29:57the tragedy with chemicals whether it's
- 30:00fertilizers or pesticides is that they
- 30:02are what has been called eological
- 30:04narcotics the more you use them the more
- 30:06you need to use them for a while the
- 30:08yield of the single commodity climbs and
- 30:10then it starts to decline because you
- 30:11have contaminated
- 30:13the soil
- 30:22most of India's cotton is grown in the
- 30:23punjob region which has quickly become
- 30:26the largest user of pesticides in India
- 30:30Dr prit Paul Singh has been studying the
- 30:32effects of these chemicals on human
- 30:34health and his reports show a dramatic
- 30:36rise in the number of birth defects
- 30:38Cancers and mental illness here in the
- 30:41region
- 30:43you can go in every village you will see
- 30:45that uh hundreds of patients are
- 30:48suffering [music] with the cancer 72
- 30:518080 80 kids in every village will find
- 30:54the facing the severe Mard and physical
- 30:57handicap
- 31:13company fertilizer pesticides they are
- 31:15totally refusing the after effect of the
- 31:19pesticide and fertilizer and this is the
- 31:21you can say classical symptoms of the
- 31:24toxicity in one Village there is 6 AED
- 31:28kids like this this war so it will be
- 31:31very uh dangerous phenomena uh in in the
- 31:35Punjab [music]
- 31:37and P pupils farmers and lab there is
- 31:41small farmers and lab Maxim the labor Ms
- 31:44so they can't afford now treatment
- 31:46ultimately they have accept to the death
- 31:48of their kids and they are waiting the
- 31:51death of their kids mother is waiting
- 31:53for the death of this boy
- 31:56companies that make the GM seeds and
- 31:59make the chemicals are the same
- 32:01companies [music] and they're also the
- 32:02same companies that make the medicines
- 32:04which they're not patenting so you get
- 32:06cancer they're more profits for them
- 32:08it's a win win win win win as for nature
- 32:11and people it's a lose lose lose lose
- 32:13lose it's the day [music]
- 32:15those agents of these companies come to
- 32:17the farmer and say you owe me this much
- 32:20you haven't paid back now your land is
- 32:22my land that day the farmer will go into
- 32:25his field drink a bottle of pesticide
- 32:29and end his life and every Widow I've
- 32:32talked to said and the neighbors [music]
- 32:33came and said they first found my
- 32:34husband lying in the field
- 32:38in the last 16 years there have been
- 32:40more than 250,000
- 32:42recorded farmer suicides in India
- 32:46that's about one farmer every 30 minutes
- 32:49and it's the largest recorded wave of
- 32:51suicides in history
- 33:00as it becomes clear just how much of an
- 33:02impact fashion is having on our world
- 33:04there is an increasing amount of
- 33:05research to suggest that it's also
- 33:07having a growing effect on us the people
- 33:10buying these clothes what we now know 20
- 33:13years later and hundreds of studies
- 33:15later is that the more that people are
- 33:17focused on those materialistic values
- 33:19the more that they say that money and
- 33:22image and status and possessions are
- 33:25important to them the less happy they
- 33:27are the more depressed they are the more
- 33:29anxious they are we know that all of
- 33:31these kinds of psychological problems
- 33:33tend to go up as materialistic values go
- 33:37up now that's really at odds with the
- 33:40thousands of messages that we receive
- 33:43every day from uh advertisements
- 33:45suggesting that materialism and the
- 33:48pursuit of possessions and owning stuff
- 33:50is what's going to make us happy it's
- 33:52important to understand that advertising
- 33:54is a species or a category or of
- 33:57propaganda
- 33:59we think of propaganda as a totalitarian
- 34:02thing very Grim loudspeakers [music]
- 34:04you know chanting crowds and so on we
- 34:07think of Hitler we always think of of it
- 34:10as a [music] foreign thing okay but it's
- 34:11actually as American as apple pie
- 34:18well the reason that advertising works
- 34:20is because the smart advertisers at
- 34:22least [music] are trying to tie the
- 34:25consumption of their product to a a
- 34:29message that suggests [music] that your
- 34:31needs will be satisfied by consuming
- 34:34this thing it wants you to believe that
- 34:37you'll look wonderful in that thing but
- 34:39then to put it on and feel like n you
- 34:41look kind of fat in it you don't look
- 34:43that good in it you're sorry you bought
- 34:44it but there's another one you can buy
- 34:46[music] I'm here for the next the next
- 34:50guy I'll be a guard in [music] the next
- 34:54life don't you
- 34:57me now
- 35:01I know you want this I'm more than maker
- 35:06the shit's [music] creater this name
- 35:09won't fade away [music] don't you
- 35:15so think of all of the car commercials
- 35:17you see that show um well I've really
- 35:20made it now [music] I'm a competent
- 35:22person because I'm driving this BMW or
- 35:25this Audi or think of all the shampoo
- 35:27commercials you've seen [music] where
- 35:29the person now has beautiful flowing
- 35:31hair and is loved and appreciated by the
- 35:34people around them the basic message
- 35:36[music] is the same the way to solve the
- 35:38problems of your life we all have
- 35:40problems in our life the way to solve
- 35:43the problem in your life is through
- 35:44[music] consumption hey you guys today
- 35:47I'm coming to you guys with a clothing
- 35:49haul I went shopping a couple days ago
- 35:51and literally went insane and bought so
- 35:54many things my my spam I don't know
- 35:57[music] where is literally blown up by
- 35:59you guys saying you guys wanted a haul
- 36:01so here it is [music] okie dokie so
- 36:04first off I have some things that I got
- 36:06from H&M so then I went to Forever 21 it
- 36:09wasn't even a question it was just like
- 36:11fate I just had to get it like if it
- 36:13could levitate towards me it would have
- 36:15levitated I got [music] this skirt
- 36:18bright yellow and it was $ 850 it's a
- 36:22jean button-up thing and I just love
- 36:27this I just loved it loved it loved it
- 36:28it's a gray knit sweater and it has pink
- 36:30hearts all over it I live I love tie-dye
- 36:33things like tie-dye things are [music]
- 36:35literally the bomb doet it has a little
- 36:37yingying sign on the front of it I just
- 36:39love these so [music] much and it's just
- 36:41this really pretty light blue sweater I
- 36:44don't even know if I'm going to wear
- 36:45this now that I [music] got it cuz I
- 36:46don't know if I like it that much I need
- 36:48to stop
- 36:56I Tred to understand better why people
- 36:58doesn't realize that they're becoming
- 37:00poorer and poorer and I as myself okay
- 37:03but what has change inp of when I was
- 37:05[music] young and fashion is something
- 37:07that has dramatically changed I was able
- 37:10to buy one two t-shirt 40- shirt for
- 37:13example a year now I mean also my my
- 37:16children they used to buy every every
- 37:18party I mean they buy a T-shirt and so I
- 37:20understood that the fast fashion is
- 37:22something totally new if you have
- 37:24noticed the price has decreased [music]
- 37:27in the last years and it has follow the
- 37:31middle class disappearing so all the
- 37:34things that people really need are very
- 37:37cost are very costly like uh home like
- 37:40study like uh life insurance on the
- 37:43other side there is a source of
- 37:45consolation
- 37:48um part of their life I can
- 37:52uh buy a t-shirt two t-shirt a party or
- 37:55eventually a day day although I'm very
- 37:59poor and I've got lost I've lost all the
- 38:01things I really needed today we
- 38:03purchased over 80 billion pieces of new
- 38:05clothing each year that's 400% [music]
- 38:08more than the amount we bought just two
- 38:10decades ago the way we buy clothes has
- 38:12changed so much so fast that few people
- 38:15have actually stepped back to understand
- 38:17the origin of this new model or the
- 38:19consequence of such an [music]
- 38:20unprecedented increase in consumption
- 38:23there's um
- 38:25an article in printer in
- 38:27uh which is the leading advertising
- 38:28[music] trade Journal of of of its day
- 38:31uh by a very famous copywriter named
- 38:34Ernest Elmo caulin a grand old man of of
- 38:37[music] uh the art of writing
- 38:38advertising copy there was an article
- 38:40called consumptionism in
- 38:44that article [music] he says there are
- 38:45there are two kinds of products okay
- 38:48they're the kind that you use
- 38:52like washing machines cars and so on
- 38:55things that you buy and used for a long
- 38:57time
- 38:59and then there are the things [music]
- 39:00that you use up like chewing gum and
- 39:03cigarettes other perishables
- 39:06he said uh consumptionism is all about
- 39:09getting people to treat the things they
- 39:11use as the things they use up with their
- 39:15Innovative buy 1 get three free pricing
- 39:18a suit from Joseph A Bank is effectively
- 39:20cheaper than paper towels and now they
- 39:23come in these easy to ous dispensers
- 39:27with four suits for the price of a
- 39:29modest dinner I can feel good about
- 39:31throwing them away when I'm done
- 39:36you just have to look at landfill and
- 39:39you can see in landfill that the amount
- 39:40[music] of clothes and textiles being
- 39:42chucked away has been increasing
- 39:44steadily over the last 10 years um as
- 39:47the sort of dirty shadow of the fast
- 39:49fashion [music] industry
- 39:53as we get sort of closer [music] and
- 39:55closer to species degradation to uh
- 39:59trashing our last remaining pristine
- 40:01Wilderness we seem hellbent on producing
- 40:04more and more disposable [music] stuff
- 40:05it makes no sense fashion should never
- 40:09and can never [music] be thought of as a
- 40:11disposable product I think after any big
- 40:14change in any industry it takes a while
- 40:16to sort of [music] to feel and smell the
- 40:19dirt that comes out of something um that
- 40:21is that is polluting so I think now
- 40:24[music] there is a change because you
- 40:27can't deny that the fast [music] fashion
- 40:29industry is having a massive impact in
- 40:32developing countries the average
- 40:34American throws away 82 lbs of textile
- 40:37waste [music]
- 40:37each year adding up to more than 11
- 40:40million tons of textile waste from the
- 40:42us alone most of this waste is
- 40:45non-biodegradable meaning it sits in
- 40:47landfills for 200 years or more while
- 40:49releasing harmful gases into the air the
- 40:53sheer amount of cheap clothing even even
- 40:56though people feel perhaps somehow
- 41:00um that they're offsetting by giving to
- 41:02charity [music]
- 41:02you know the Journey of a t-shirt
- 41:05donated to charity is unpalatable
- 41:07[music] in itself
- 41:12Pepe um it is a disease in Haiti and not
- 41:16only in Haiti I think I can know in any
- 41:18third world country that you're visiting
- 41:19like you know it's a problem it's a huge
- 41:22problem p a bunch of clothes
- 41:26most of them came from the states
- 41:30people will go and buy a box full of
- 41:33clothes they don't even know what they
- 41:34buying those are clothes people donate
- 41:38to charity and charity cannot sell them
- 41:40on their trip store or whatever they
- 41:44pack them ship them to those Third
- 41:47Country and most of them end up here
- 41:49turns out that only about 10% of the
- 41:51clothes that we donate actually get sold
- 41:53in local thrift stores and as we're
- 41:55going through our clothing faster and
- 41:57faster now more of it is being dumped
- 41:59into developing countries like Haiti as
- 42:02the amount of secondhand clothing coming
- 42:04into Haiti has increased the local
- 42:06clothing industry here has disappeared
- 42:09once a proud local tailoring sector
- 42:11Haiti now produces mostly cheap t-shirts
- 42:14for export to America
- 42:46so I'll tell people stop buying things
- 42:49that is not good that is Con like you
- 42:52know $10 you're going to go on a on a
- 42:54bar you're going out today you just go
- 42:57to a store and buy yourself a dress for
- 42:58$10 because I can know it cost $10 I
- 43:00don't to throw it away and tomorrow
- 43:03you're going to do the same thing over
- 43:04and over and over again
- 43:08as awareness of Fashion's impact on our
- 43:09world is growing there are key leaders
- 43:11in the industry who are beginning to
- 43:13question the impacts of a model built on
- 43:15careless production and endless
- 43:17consumption a Patagonia we hate the word
- 43:22consumers
- 43:23it's we've got to find a better word we
- 43:26we prefer uh customers and we prefer
- 43:29also customers who recognize the impact
- 43:32of their consumption [music]
- 43:34they recognize that uh as consumers
- 43:37they're part of the problem uh [music]
- 43:39we are hopeful that we can encourage our
- 43:42customers to join us in [music] in
- 43:44really questioning consumption because
- 43:47without a reduction in consumption we
- 43:49don't feel that we'll really
- 43:50collectively find a solution to the
- 43:53problems we face that are collectively
- 43:56year by year uh resulting in the
- 43:59continued decline of the uh health of
- 44:01our planet
- 44:03I mean the fashion [music] industry just
- 44:05needs to think it needs to just stop and
- 44:07sort of look at how it's been working in
- 44:10a conventional way and just sort of
- 44:12question it challenge [music] it you
- 44:13know and that's for me as a designer
- 44:15that's the most exciting thing that I do
- 44:17now more exciting than saying oh I love
- 44:20this color this season or this is the
- 44:22silhouette or the hemline for me way way
- 44:26bigger Challenge and excitement is
- 44:27actually looking at my industry and
- 44:29saying you know what I'm going to try
- 44:30and do it in a way that is not as
- 44:32harmful to the planet
- 44:35business through [music] advertising has
- 44:37uh has pulled Society uh along into
- 44:40[music]
- 44:41this belief that uh happiness is based
- 44:44on stuff that uh true happiness can only
- 44:47be achieved with [music] uh you know an
- 44:50annual seasonal weekly daily increasing
- 44:54the amount of stuff you [music] bring
- 44:55into your life that that we want to
- 44:57encourage our customers to to think
- 44:59twice about those assumptions to [music]
- 45:01understand where they came from and
- 45:04through that understanding to know that
- 45:05uh we can all together you we can change
- 45:07[music] how this is done the customer
- 45:09has to know that they're in charge
- 45:11without them we don't have jobs you know
- 45:13and that is really important so you
- 45:15don't have to buy into it [music] if you
- 45:17don't like it you don't have to buy into
- 45:19it
- 45:23I love the embroidery shantu
- 45:28the embroider is really nice don't you
- 45:29think we should have the embroidery on
- 45:31both sides I think we should definitely
- 45:33add the embroidery here as well I think
- 45:36it looks a bit mean to have it just on
- 45:37the front so let's have it on the sides
- 45:39too
- 45:41it won't add much cost it's not so dense
- 45:44is it
- 45:50swallows is a fair trade fashion
- 45:53business but it's also a development
- 45:55Society
- 45:56so it helps more than 3,000 people in
- 45:59this Village
- 46:02I come here every 4 months um we we call
- 46:04them production trips and um and we're
- 46:07working with the producers trying to
- 46:08find out you know what are the barriers
- 46:10to making a great product and to to
- 46:12getting it to the market and we're also
- 46:15doing Fair tray capacity building so
- 46:17looking at you know what what are the
- 46:19obstacles to delivering more social
- 46:21benefit or improving you know the
- 46:23Environmental Protection in the in these
- 46:25areas
- 46:26for me this this is about partnering
- 46:28this is about finding Creative Solutions
- 46:30together with them with the team here um
- 46:33and really listening to what their
- 46:34problems are and finding a way that that
- 46:36works together
- 46:47I want to invite um the best employee
- 46:51here at swallows I want to invite one
- 46:54women one female representative from
- 46:57swallows to come to London in Autumn or
- 47:01next spring and I would like you to
- 47:03think who would be that best
- 47:05representative
- 47:07but I want you to know who your
- 47:08customers are and I want you to really
- 47:11understand the market place and come
- 47:12back and tell all your friends
- 47:37[applause]
- 47:41either if she does it single thread
- 47:43single stitch then maybe she needs to do
- 47:45more densely more concentrated
- 48:01so
- 48:03she continues for a bit we're going to
- 48:05go up to the sample room now for ss15
- 48:08can she come and show us the next one
- 48:10that she does yeah
- 48:17I kind of hope that people tree wouldn't
- 48:18be necessary and I hoped that you know
- 48:22we would have a trading system that
- 48:23looked after people's rights and the
- 48:26environments and but the more and more
- 48:29involved I got in developing and working
- 48:31[music] closely with Partners the more
- 48:34you know dirt and and filth I discovered
- 48:37about how trading practices you know
- 48:39undermine everything that we believe in
- 48:40and everything I know [music] most
- 48:43people believe and value um
- 48:47I don't know people you [music] just
- 48:48really grew organically it grew from um
- 48:51a really great collection of people that
- 48:53feel passionately that there's a
- 48:54different way of of of working of living
- 48:57of consuming [music]
- 48:59of you know interacting with people a a
- 49:01humane way um and [music] uh you know I
- 49:05mean I I didn't necessarily feel that
- 49:07there'd be a thousand shops selling
- 49:08people tree today um and I see there
- 49:12there's [music] so much more that we
- 49:12need to do so I think it's not just
- 49:14about you know creating jobs for the
- 49:167,000 people that work for people tree
- 49:18it's [music] also about being a catalyst
- 49:20for change you know within the industry
- 49:21and showing proving the model works
- 49:35yeah when we were first in organic I
- 49:37think there was only two or three of us
- 49:38at the time [music] we formed the Texas
- 49:40organic cotton marketing cooperative and
- 49:42the deal was they'd grow it and I'd sell
- 49:44it so started going to like Jacob Javits
- 49:47and having this whole deal cotton plants
- 49:49and everything and of yeah we're we've
- 49:51got organic cotton and people would just
- 49:53look at us like we were absolutely crazy
- 49:58many times consumers become aware of
- 50:00organic milk or they have an allergy and
- 50:03so interestingly enough cotton and what
- 50:06they put on their body even though the
- 50:07Skin's the largest organ on your body
- 50:09isn't even on their radar screen because
- 50:11they're not getting the connection of oh
- 50:13I eat this Organic Apple therefore I'm
- 50:16not directly ingesting pesticides or
- 50:19chemicals or whatever the case may be
- 50:21but they don't get that direct
- 50:22connection with clothing and so you have
- 50:24to start looking that in that bigger
- 50:25Community scope that it is about our air
- 50:28it's about our world it's about our
- 50:29planet it's about our people and so it
- 50:32is that awareness of you may not feel
- 50:35that you're having the direct impact by
- 50:37buying this organic shirt
- 50:39but the impact you're having is in the
- 50:42bigger picture in the World At [music]
- 50:43Large and especially in the community
- 50:45where the Cotton's grown
- 50:59as the hard freeze comes as organic
- 51:02farmers we wait for that freeze [music]
- 51:04CU that literally defoliates uh takes
- 51:06the leaves off the plant so that when we
- 51:09Harvest we're the bowls open that are
- 51:12mature and it leaves the cotton here and
- 51:14you can see it kind of comes out in
- 51:16sections so this uh machine that's
- 51:19coming is called the cotton stripper and
- 51:21it's called a cotton stripper because it
- 51:23literally comes along and strips
- 51:26uh use kind of fingers and it literally
- 51:27strips all of the B bowls off of this
- 51:31this plant so when you look over there
- 51:33you can see the arice has been there and
- 51:35and it's taken all the plants off
- 51:48I think one of the problems that we have
- 51:50in the current model is it's all about
- 51:51the profit and it doesn't take into
- 51:54[music] consideration
- 51:56at Co this cost at what cost the cost of
- 51:58polluting the water [music] the cost of
- 52:00Labor the cost of bars on the window
- 52:03that people die when a fire breaks out
- 52:04in the factory the cost of farmers that
- 52:07don't have [music] access to education
- 52:09and health care and so we haven't really
- 52:12factored in what the true cost is
- 52:20kpur is situated along river ganga
- 52:24which is the holiest River and it's also
- 52:28very important for 800 million Hindus
- 52:32and also it serves as Lifeline of North
- 52:36India so this river is being polluted
- 52:39and killed by the leather factories of
- 52:41kour
- 52:45with growing demand for materials like
- 52:47cheap leather kour is now the leather
- 52:49export capital of India
- 53:01every day here more than 50 million lers
- 53:04of toxic waste water pour out of the
- 53:06local tanneries heavy chemicals used to
- 53:08treat the leather like chromium 6 flow
- 53:10into local farming and [music] even
- 53:12drinking water
- 53:14in places like kour far from the eyes of
- 53:17the world major Western brands are able
- 53:19to Source cheap materials while avoiding
- 53:21all accountability for the growing cost
- 53:23to human health and the en en
- 53:36people in that area
- 53:39are in the tight grip of tary pollution
- 53:41[music]
- 53:42the local environment is contaminated
- 53:45soil is contaminated the only drinking
- 53:49water source groundw is contaminated
- 53:52with chromium
- 53:54agriculture cultural produce even
- 53:56vegetables and salad items are produced
- 54:01there People's Health are affected
- 54:05people have different kinds of dermal
- 54:07problems
- 54:09skin rashes boils pules even numbness in
- 54:13the limbs people have [music]
- 54:15stomach ailments maybe they have cancers
- 54:18also
- 54:53ch
- 54:59you can have the best of materials
- 55:01moving into the highend fashioned Market
- 55:04in Milan or Paris or London but there
- 55:08has been so much of work which has gone
- 55:11behind it and so much of chemicals has
- 55:13gone into it the fluence have been
- 55:15discharged into so many rivers but we
- 55:17are only looking at that point of time
- 55:20into the finished product we need to
- 55:22[music] step back and think about it
- 55:28fashion today is the number two most
- 55:30polluting industry on Earth second only
- 55:33to the oil industry the alarming thing
- 55:36is that not only is fashion using a huge
- 55:38amount of natural resources and creating
- 55:40staggering environmental impacts these
- 55:42natural resources and this [music]
- 55:43impact is often not even measured
- 55:46because they've been so abundant these
- 55:48resources
- 55:50uh it's been assumed that they're going
- 55:51to be there forever uh so I think
- 55:54[music] uh business has not accounted
- 55:55for them because uh it's only since the
- 55:581950s
- 56:00that we've really had this industrial uh
- 56:03expansion at such a rate that we started
- 56:05to see exponential [music]
- 56:07growth and exponential use of Natural
- 56:10Resources the first economy on which Our
- 56:13Lives rest is Nature's economy Nature
- 56:15has an economy that economy is huge it's
- 56:19not counted
- 56:21then we have people's economy women
- 56:22working weers working Farmers growing
- 56:25and that was made invisible through this
- 56:28construct first in the depression and
- 56:30then during the War years of the number
- 56:33called the GDP the gross domestic
- 56:35product [music] which measures only that
- 56:40which is traded [music] and has become a
- 56:42commodity a lot of the resources that we
- 56:45use to U make our clothing are not
- 56:49accounted for [music] in the the cost of
- 56:52producing those clothes uh so when it
- 56:54has has uh water uh that's used to
- 56:57[music] produce clothing land that's
- 57:00used to grow the fiber uh chemicals that
- 57:04uh are used [music] to to die uh those
- 57:07things uh all are inputs um and as
- 57:12inputs they cost something uh [music]
- 57:15and they also give outputs in some cases
- 57:18good outputs the clothing themselves uh
- 57:21jobs but in other cases bad outputs like
- 57:24harmful chemicals or greenhouse gas
- 57:27emissions and those things have costs as
- 57:29well
- 57:54foreign
- 58:00fore
- 58:04spech foreign
- 58:07speech foreign for
- 58:14speee
- 58:21for
- 58:31the same low wages that have made places
- 58:33like Bangladesh so attractive for Brands
- 58:35to do business have left millions of
- 58:37workers here working incredibly long
- 58:39hours unable to afford to keep their
- 58:41children with them even in the city's
- 58:43worst slums in order to give their
- 58:46children an education and the chance of
- 58:48a better future than life in the
- 58:49factories many garment workers here like
- 58:52Shima are leaving their children to be
- 58:54raised by family or friends in villages
- 58:57outside the city only getting to see
- 58:59them once or twice a year
- 59:45spee
- 59:48speech forign speech
- 59:52speech
- 59:54fore
- 1:00:02spech
- 1:00:18speee
- 1:00:22speech
- 1:00:24for
- 1:00:34foreign fore
- 1:00:38for
- 1:00:54foree
- 1:01:03fore
- 1:01:06spee foree
- 1:01:15foree
- 1:01:24fore
- 1:01:33speeech
- 1:01:42speech
- 1:01:44speech
- 1:01:46spee for
- 1:01:54for
- 1:02:01[music]
- 1:02:20you know we are actually profiting from
- 1:02:23their um need to work to use them as
- 1:02:27slaves and I'm not saying that we don't
- 1:02:30you know we need to give them work but
- 1:02:32it has they have to be treated with the
- 1:02:35same respect that we [music] treat our
- 1:02:38children our friends they're not
- 1:02:40different from us Livia fth has been
- 1:02:43calling for major change in [music] the
- 1:02:44fashion industry she made Headlines by
- 1:02:46starting something called The Green
- 1:02:48carpet challenge urging celebrities and
- 1:02:50top designers to take part [music] in
- 1:02:51more mindful forms of fashion she runs a
- 1:02:54sustainability consulting firm called
- 1:02:56Eco and had just been invited to speak
- 1:02:58at a conference on the future of fashion
- 1:03:00if First fashion didn't exist
- 1:03:03we wouldn't need to have a summit in
- 1:03:05Copenhagen to try and clean the mess of
- 1:03:08environmental destruction social justice
- 1:03:10destruction that he has been caused in
- 1:03:13the last 15 to 20 years of his existence
- 1:03:16fast fashion wants to produce fast so
- 1:03:19the Garment worker has to produce faster
- 1:03:23and cheap so the government worker is
- 1:03:25the only point of the supply chain where
- 1:03:28the margin has squeezed
- 1:03:30and you have this huge you know
- 1:03:33companies going to the factory in
- 1:03:35Bangladesh place an order for 1.5
- 1:03:37million jeans for you know 30 cents each
- 1:03:4150 cents each how can you make it
- 1:03:43ethical I don't know
- 1:03:46but also from the consumer point of view
- 1:03:49is it really Democratic to buy a t-shirt
- 1:03:51for $5 a pair of jeans for $20
- 1:03:55or are they taking us for a r
- 1:03:58because they're making us believe that
- 1:04:00we are rich or wealthy because we can
- 1:04:02buy a lot but in fact they're making us
- 1:04:05poorer and the only person who is
- 1:04:08becoming richer is the owner of the fast
- 1:04:11fashion Branch so that makes me a little
- 1:04:13bit angry [applause]
- 1:04:21[applause]
- 1:04:22you spoke about a commitment to
- 1:04:27try and and promise a basic living wage
- 1:04:31what does that mean uh how do you define
- 1:04:34a fair living wage in Bangladesh
- 1:04:37you know um
- 1:04:40what does that mean and I have a pilot
- 1:04:42project in three factories and by 2018
- 1:04:4615% of your factories are going to have
- 1:04:48that it's not good enough it's not it's
- 1:04:52very clear for us that what a living
- 1:04:53wage is is something that the workers
- 1:04:56should say and that's Incorporated
- 1:04:59that's Incorporated in our way of
- 1:05:01working how much and that's not for us
- 1:05:04to say a sum but we do an assessment all
- 1:05:07the time to make sure that it covers the
- 1:05:11basic needs of the workers so it's I I
- 1:05:14can show you that later on H&M has
- 1:05:17mastered the model of fast fashion
- 1:05:19becoming the second largest clothing
- 1:05:21Corporation in history with annual
- 1:05:23revenue of more than $18 billion
- 1:05:26they are now one of the largest
- 1:05:28producers of clothing in both Bangladesh
- 1:05:30and Cambodia sadly along with every
- 1:05:33other major retailer I asked they
- 1:05:35declined all interview requests [music]
- 1:05:37for this film
- 1:05:49[cheering]
- 1:05:53and C Cambodia garment workers have had
- 1:05:55enough recently taken to the streets to
- 1:05:58demand a minimum wage increase in the
- 1:06:00country
- 1:06:02[cheering]
- 1:06:06as protest continued workers were met
- 1:06:08with violent crackdowns as police began
- 1:06:10to open fire with live rounds
- 1:06:33a woman has been killed and several
- 1:06:35people injured in clashes between
- 1:06:36clothes Factory workers and Riot police
- 1:06:39in Cambodia
- 1:07:03foree
- 1:07:13for two days Cambodia was a Battleground
- 1:07:18the city of the police the paratroopers
- 1:07:22were brought in
- 1:07:24as if there were war on the street of
- 1:07:29why because workers in the textile
- 1:07:32industry continue to demand a minimum
- 1:07:35wage of at least $160
- 1:07:41for
- 1:07:44speech
- 1:07:46foreign
- 1:07:49speeech
- 1:07:51foreign
- 1:07:53for
- 1:07:55spe speech foreign fore
- 1:08:01speech foreign spee speech
- 1:08:06fore speech foreign
- 1:08:16today is the funeral
- 1:08:18of uh a factory worker he was beaten to
- 1:08:24death he had uh suffered a lot before
- 1:08:29his death uh this morning and he had
- 1:08:34done nothing wrong he among his uh
- 1:08:38fellow workers
- 1:08:41wanted to have a better living
- 1:08:44conditions
- 1:08:47[singing]
- 1:08:54[singing]
- 1:09:11we will continue his fight
- 1:09:15so that all Cambodian workers
- 1:09:21will have de living conditions
- 1:09:25thank you sir
- 1:09:35the Cambodian government like other
- 1:09:37developing countries are desperate for
- 1:09:39the business that multinational
- 1:09:41retailers bring
- 1:09:43because of the constant threat that
- 1:09:44these Brands will relocate production to
- 1:09:46other lowcost countries the government
- 1:09:48holds down wages routinely avoiding
- 1:09:51enforcement of local labor laws but
- 1:09:53because the major brands do not
- 1:09:55officially employ the workers or [music]
- 1:09:56own any of the factories they produce in
- 1:09:59they're able to profit hugely all while
- 1:10:02remaining free of responsibility for the
- 1:10:04effects of poverty wages Factory
- 1:10:06disasters and the ongoing violent
- 1:10:08treatment of workers the whole system
- 1:10:12begins to feel like a perfectly
- 1:10:13engineered nightmare for the workers
- 1:10:15trapped inside of it
- 1:10:19you cannot fool us and exploit of human
- 1:10:23resources exploit our workers the
- 1:10:26workers will continue to rise up I call
- 1:10:29on the international Brands to put that
- 1:10:33struggle into
- 1:10:37Dollars into pounds into Euros
- 1:10:42it translates into human capital it
- 1:10:46translates into
- 1:10:48social responsibility or these big
- 1:10:50corporations it translates into economic
- 1:10:54Justice when everything is concentrated
- 1:10:57on making profits for the big
- 1:10:59corporations what you see is that human
- 1:11:01rights the environment workers rights
- 1:11:04get lost altogether you see that workers
- 1:11:06are increasingly exploited because the
- 1:11:09price [music]
- 1:11:09of everything is pushed down and down
- 1:11:11and down just to satisfy the this
- 1:11:14impulse to accumulate capital and that's
- 1:11:17profoundly problematic because [music]
- 1:11:18it leads to the mass impoverishment of
- 1:11:21hundreds of millions of people around
- 1:11:23the world
- 1:11:25if you write to any of these companies
- 1:11:28they'll send you their code of conduct
- 1:11:29and it's beautiful and it says oh yes we
- 1:11:33take responsibility for the conditions
- 1:11:35under which our product is made you know
- 1:11:37the product that you buy all the
- 1:11:39factories where we produce we require
- 1:11:41them to respect the minimum wage laws
- 1:11:44you know all of the laws of the country
- 1:11:46to respect women not to hire children uh
- 1:11:50no forced labor
- 1:11:53um no no excessive overtime hours all
- 1:11:55that stuff um but when we submitted a
- 1:12:01Bill in Congress a few years ago or
- 1:12:03worked with worked with people to do
- 1:12:05that we called it the the decent working
- 1:12:08conditions and Fair competition act the
- 1:12:10companies responded in one voice oh no
- 1:12:13that would be an impediment to free
- 1:12:15trade we can't we can't have rules we
- 1:12:17can't have we can't have that they want
- 1:12:20to keep it with voluntary codes of
- 1:12:22conduct now they you know they've fought
- 1:12:24for and they've won laws to protect
- 1:12:27their stuff and their interests but you
- 1:12:30know what about the workers the workers
- 1:12:32are left with voluntary codes of conduct
- 1:12:34and what we see in case after case after
- 1:12:38case is that those voluntary codes of
- 1:12:40conduct are not worth the paper that
- 1:12:42they're written on we need to
- 1:12:44acknowledge particularly in the fashion
- 1:12:46industry that human capital is part of
- 1:12:49this miraculous formula
- 1:12:51without human capital without cheap
- 1:12:54labor cheap female labor it would not be
- 1:12:58generating the profits that it is
- 1:13:01that needs to be acknowledged it needs
- 1:13:03to be dealt with and those people need
- 1:13:05to be rewarded instead of exploited
- 1:13:08where is their peace of the pie that's
- 1:13:10what we constantly have to ask ourselves
- 1:13:12are those buyers immoral or do they just
- 1:13:15don't or they immoral the system they're
- 1:13:17working for and the system that allows
- 1:13:19companies to do this is amoral the
- 1:13:21individuals concerned are simply product
- 1:13:23that system and having to drive it
- 1:13:24through to its logical conclusion what
- 1:13:26we need to do is change the way those
- 1:13:28companies operate
- 1:13:30operating within a system that only
- 1:13:32measures profit companies have little
- 1:13:34incentive to do anything other than to
- 1:13:36make this quarter better than the last
- 1:13:39no matter what damage is caused along
- 1:13:41the way as corporations that make up the
- 1:13:43global fashion industry Major Brands as
- 1:13:46well as seed and chemical companies are
- 1:13:48growing today to reach unprecedented
- 1:13:50Global size and power this mandate for
- 1:13:53profit at all cost is beginning to stand
- 1:13:55[music] in direct opposition to the
- 1:13:57values that we share
- 1:13:59Richard wolf is an economist who after
- 1:14:02graduating from Harvard Stanford and
- 1:14:04Yale became convinced that the real
- 1:14:06problem is [music] within this system
- 1:14:08itself so America became a peculiar
- 1:14:12country you could criticize the
- 1:14:14education system to make the schools
- 1:14:16better you could criticize the
- 1:14:17transportation system to make that work
- 1:14:19better you could CR but you couldn't
- 1:14:21criticize the economic system system
- 1:14:24that got a free pass you couldn't
- 1:14:26criticize just you know and if you don't
- 1:14:28criticize something for 50 years it rots
- 1:14:32it goes to seed but one of the ways a
- 1:14:34healthy Society works is it subjects its
- 1:14:37component systems to criticism so that
- 1:14:40we can debate it and hopefully fix it or
- 1:14:42improve [music] it or do better
- 1:14:44capitalism couldn't be questioned
- 1:14:47capitalism is the reason the fashion
- 1:14:48industry looks as it does today it's the
- 1:14:51reason why workers in Bangladesh are
- 1:14:54paid so little because [music] if you're
- 1:14:55operating in a capitalist system the
- 1:14:58main thing you have to do is [music]
- 1:14:59create profit and you have to create
- 1:15:02more profit than your competitors and
- 1:15:04this is what drives companies to push
- 1:15:07wages down and down and down like they
- 1:15:10don't like companies don't go like
- 1:15:12fashion retailers don't go to places
- 1:15:15like Bangladesh [music] for any other
- 1:15:17reason except they can get the cheapest
- 1:15:20labor possible like there's no um
- 1:15:22collect rights in Bangladesh there's no
- 1:15:24Trade union rights there's a very very
- 1:15:26low minimum wage there's no like
- 1:15:28maternity benefits there's no pensions
- 1:15:30that is why the fashion industry is in
- 1:15:32Bangladesh because it can reap the
- 1:15:34biggest profits out of [music] those
- 1:15:36people that are that are making the
- 1:15:37clothes for them before you can solve a
- 1:15:39problem you have to admit you got one
- 1:15:42and before we're going to fix an
- 1:15:43economic [music] system that's working
- 1:15:45this way and producing such tensions and
- 1:15:48inequalities and [music] strains on our
- 1:15:50community we have to face the real scope
- 1:15:53of the problem we have and that's
- 1:15:55[music] with the system as a whole and
- 1:15:58at the very least we have to open up a
- 1:16:00national debate about [music] it and at
- 1:16:02the most I think we have to think long
- 1:16:05and hard about alternative systems
- 1:16:07[music] that might work better for the
- 1:16:08environment the great threat is that
- 1:16:11Capital must continue to expand [music]
- 1:16:14infinitely in order to survive it it
- 1:16:17can't have any limits on its expansion
- 1:16:19and [music] its growth the natural world
- 1:16:21clearly does have limits there very
- 1:16:23defined limits to how much the world can
- 1:16:26sustain in terms of production in terms
- 1:16:28of trade in terms of [music] transport
- 1:16:30and distribution and it's quite clear
- 1:16:32that we've already overstepped a lot of
- 1:16:34those limits which [music] is why you're
- 1:16:36seeing such stress in the natural world
- 1:16:38at the moment the system we live in
- 1:16:41isn't one that most people want to live
- 1:16:43in I think it's a system that makes most
- 1:16:45people very unhappy [music] and I don't
- 1:16:47think people want to live on a slowly
- 1:16:49dying planet or to be exploiting um you
- 1:16:51know their neighbors so
- 1:16:53I think I think we need huge systemic
- 1:16:56change if you don't change the system
- 1:16:59you're leaving intact the decision
- 1:17:03making of these Enterprises which means
- 1:17:06a small group of Executives and
- 1:17:08shareholders are going to be working in
- 1:17:10the same system subject to the same
- 1:17:12pattern of rewards and punishments which
- 1:17:15will sooner or later make them reimpose
- 1:17:18there or elsewhere the very conditions
- 1:17:21you're fighting against so stop stop
- 1:17:23this stuff about improving their
- 1:17:25conditions deal with a system or else
- 1:17:28you're not serious our economic system
- 1:17:31is one of consumer capitalism and that's
- 1:17:34why the government needs to have
- 1:17:37consumption at very high levels um and
- 1:17:40why of course the corporations do and
- 1:17:42why at some level most people then buy
- 1:17:44into it you know I can't tell you the
- 1:17:46number of people I talk to who say well
- 1:17:49but if we became less materialistic our
- 1:17:51economy would tank well they're right in
- 1:17:55some level because our economy is based
- 1:17:58on materialism it's based on these kinds
- 1:18:02of values that's what it needs in order
- 1:18:05to survive that's part of the fuel that
- 1:18:07it needs
- 1:18:09the problem is that comes at a really
- 1:18:11high price black Frid here can we
- 1:18:14[music]
- 1:18:18Black Friday shopping Mania is still
- 1:18:20playing out tonight at malls Across
- 1:18:21America in some places across this
- 1:18:23country tonight it's as if someone
- 1:18:25announced we in danger of running out of
- 1:18:27stuff and those who need stuff had
- 1:18:29better go out and buy it now cuz it's
- 1:18:31going away forever Walmart doing more
- 1:18:33than 10 million transactions in the
- 1:18:36first 4 hours of the frenzy a record
- 1:18:3815,000 people at Macy's in New York City
- 1:18:41Shoppers hung tough Black Friday will be
- 1:18:44the single largest day of the retail
- 1:18:46year certainly in the case of Macy's
- 1:18:48we'll do more business on this day uh
- 1:18:50than on any other uh day of the year
- 1:18:52here Nation this orgy of Christmas
- 1:18:55shopping proves America is back we are
- 1:18:58once again yes [cheering]
- 1:19:01oh yes [applause]
- 1:19:04we are once again spending money we
- 1:19:07don't have on things we don't need to
- 1:19:09give to people we don't like [cheering]
- 1:19:13yeah USA USA USA USA
- 1:19:22[music]
- 1:19:24oh my god
- 1:19:28I've kept my grip so tight [music]
- 1:19:33I won't let anyone get [singing] in my
- 1:19:36way I want beautiful [music]
- 1:19:39things golden rings golden rings [music]
- 1:19:44and I get what I want
- 1:19:49I live just to get what I [music] want
- 1:19:52and I want want it
- 1:19:56I want it [music and singing] all
- 1:20:02and now
- 1:20:05[music] I want it
- 1:20:11and I you [music] to get
- 1:20:14how how you [music] to get
- 1:20:19cuz I
- 1:20:22I want to [music] know
- 1:21:11foreign
- 1:21:14speech
- 1:21:31for
- 1:21:33speee
- 1:21:44for
- 1:22:01speech
- 1:22:08speee
- 1:22:15spee
- 1:22:22[music]
- 1:22:22fore
- 1:22:25foreign spe
- 1:22:28foreign
- 1:22:33[music]
- 1:22:45[music]
- 1:22:52I grew up on a [music] farm merried a
- 1:22:54guy that grew up on a farm and uh those
- 1:22:57of us living on the farm and pl you know
- 1:22:59live there it needs to [music] be safe
- 1:23:01for us too and and the new chemicals
- 1:23:03that were coming out and the intensity
- 1:23:05of the use [music] was just continuing
- 1:23:07to increase and um
- 1:23:11and then in 2005
- 1:23:13[music] um Terry started having some
- 1:23:17loss ofine motor skills and this and
- 1:23:18that and come to find [music] out he had
- 1:23:20a gleo blastoma multi Army stage forward
- 1:23:23brain tumor
- 1:23:25and uh [music] at the prime age of 47
- 1:23:28years old and uh he died at the age of
- 1:23:3150 they gave us six months we had two
- 1:23:33and a half years and the brain surgeon
- 1:23:36uh that worked on him we've you know
- 1:23:38Leck [music]
- 1:23:39is got huge cancer clinics and uh a hub
- 1:23:43medical Hub uh we didn't have to go
- 1:23:45someplace [music] else to have a brain
- 1:23:46tumor surgery we were're able to stay
- 1:23:48right here because he does so many of
- 1:23:50them he said that these kind of t tumors
- 1:23:52are found in men age 45 [music] to 65
- 1:23:55that work in the agricultural industry
- 1:23:58or the oil field and so while I don't
- 1:24:01have a Smoking Gun in the blood test
- 1:24:03that say [music] the use of uh cotton
- 1:24:07chemicals and agricultural chemicals
- 1:24:09directly led to my husband's death
- 1:24:10[music]
- 1:24:11there's just too many linkages with his
- 1:24:13father's death growing up on a
- 1:24:15chemically intensive Farm [music] we
- 1:24:16live in the middle of 3.6 million Acres
- 1:24:18of of cotton that use a lot of chemicals
- 1:24:21and so at that point in time
- 1:24:25organic is was [music] no longer
- 1:24:26important to me
- 1:24:28it was imperative it's imperative that
- 1:24:31we change agriculture it's imperative
- 1:24:33[music]
- 1:24:33if we're talking about the long-term
- 1:24:35sustainability and well-being of Our
- 1:24:37Lives on this planet and our children's
- 1:24:39lives on the planet [music] that we have
- 1:24:42to change
- 1:25:06this is the beginning of a turning point
- 1:25:08not just for you know a responsible way
- 1:25:10of doing fashion but for a new way of
- 1:25:12doing capitalism for a new way of doing
- 1:25:13economics
- 1:25:15I'm I'm sure that we we will see a
- 1:25:19significant change over the next 10
- 1:25:21years um whether it's in time or not is
- 1:25:24another question
- 1:25:27if you know Martin Luther King Jr at a
- 1:25:29speech in a Brooklyn church he said that
- 1:25:31what what America needed was a
- 1:25:33revolution of values it needed to stop
- 1:25:36treating people like things needed to
- 1:25:39stop treating people in ways that were
- 1:25:42just about [music] profit but instead to
- 1:25:44treat people in a real and human way my
- 1:25:49God we can do better than this if if
- 1:25:52what we want is to spread as I would
- 1:25:55[music] argue we do spread industry
- 1:25:57around the world not concentrated in one
- 1:26:00place let it let the benefits be shared
- 1:26:04globally then let's do that in an
- 1:26:07orderly reasonable careful way we need
- 1:26:11to recognize [music] that capital is
- 1:26:13just money money is a means and people
- 1:26:16should be accountable for [music] how
- 1:26:17it's used we need to celebrate the
- 1:26:21creative power
- 1:26:22of human beings and we need to talk of
- 1:26:24creative work we must stop talking about
- 1:26:26Labor we need to look at the land as not
- 1:26:31a commodity
- 1:26:32to be speculated on and traded [music]
- 1:26:35but as the very basis of our life as
- 1:26:37Mother Earth if you change all consumers
- 1:26:40into activists all consumers asking
- 1:26:43[music] ethical questions all consumers
- 1:26:45asking quite simple questions about
- 1:26:48where their clothes are from all
- 1:26:49consumers saying [music] I'm sorry it's
- 1:26:51not acceptable for someone to die in the
- 1:26:54course of a working day we can't just
- 1:26:55roll over and say yes have [music] it do
- 1:26:57what you like it's too important it's
- 1:26:59too significant in industry it's has too
- 1:27:02much impact and [music] effect on
- 1:27:04millions of people worldwide and common
- 1:27:06resources
- 1:27:14will we continue to search for happiness
- 1:27:16and the consumption [music] of things
- 1:27:19will we be satisfied with a system that
- 1:27:21makes us feel rich
- 1:27:22while leaving our world so desperately
- 1:27:24poor will we continue to turn a blind
- 1:27:27eye to the lives of those behind our
- 1:27:29clothes [music] or will this be a
- 1:27:30turning point a new chapter in our story
- 1:27:33when together we begin to make a real
- 1:27:36change as we remember [music] that
- 1:27:38everything we wear was touched by human
- 1:27:41hands
- 1:27:42in the midst of all the challenges
- 1:27:44facing us today for all the problems
- 1:27:46[music] that feel bigger than us and
- 1:27:48beyond our control maybe we could start
- 1:27:51here with clothing
- 1:30:45[music]
- 1:30:56[music]
- 1:31:15[music]
- 1:31:29for
- 1:31:43[music]
- 1:31:52[music]
- 1:32:00[music]
- 1:32:07[music]
About this transcript
This page contains the full transcript of The True Cost by Life Is My Movie Entertainment, generated from the public captions YouTube serves with the video. The transcript has 10,902 words across 1,733 segments, with the original timestamps preserved so you can click any line to jump to that moment in the embedded player.
What you can do with it
Use the transcript to take notes, quote the speaker, build a study guide, generate a summary with ChatGPT or Claude via the YouTube Summary tool, or export it as a timed subtitle file with YouTube to SRT. You can also re-open it in the transcriber to translate the transcript into 100+ languages.
Free YouTube transcript tool
YouTube2Text is a free YouTube transcript generator — no signup, no daily limit. Paste any YouTube link and get the full transcript instantly, with timestamps, click-to-jump, translation to 100+ languages, AI prompts for ChatGPT, Claude, and Gemini, and exports to TXT, SRT, VTT, or Markdown.