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0:00the story we're going to go over today
0:02is that of the infamous notorious and
0:05Despicable serial killer BTK brace
0:09yourselves for this one because it is
0:11dark and pretty heinous not in a graphic
0:15blood type of way but just the overall
0:17depraved and truly disturbing mindset
0:20and crimes that he committed I mean this
0:22guy is seriously sub-human
0:25but the reason we're going to be talking
0:27about it is because it is yes one of the
0:29most infamous True Crime cases out there
0:31but it also still has so many details
0:33that the general public isn't aware of
0:35there also is a newly heightened
0:38interest in BTK as Brian coburger is
0:41being compared to him and even suspected
0:43to have taken bits and pieces of btk's
0:46profile and make it his own all due to
0:48Brian studying directly under the
0:50professor who worked so closely with BTK
0:53and even wrote his biography many think
0:56that Brian being the criminology buff
0:58that he is still characteristics of
1:01btk's murders to either pay homage to
1:03him or to mimic the profile which as we
1:06go you be the judge of that and let me
1:08know in any event this is a case that
1:10you definitely want to have an empty
1:12stomach for because it will surely make
1:14you sick to your stomach so buckle up
1:17because we are going to do a deep dive
1:18on exactly who this Maniac was and the
1:21Trail of Terror that BTK left in his
1:24wake throughout Wichita Kansas this for
1:26almost three decades hey guys I'm Annie
1:29Elise this is tend to life let's Dive
1:32Right In
1:40[Music]
1:58Dennis Rader was born on March 9 1945 in
2:01Kansas he had two loving parents and
2:04three brothers and his parents were very
2:06well regarded in their community and
2:08their Church even though both parents
2:10worked long hours and paid a little
2:11attention to their children at home
2:13Dennis described his upbringing as very
2:16normal and in one interview Dennis
2:18explained I got along real well with Dad
2:21but Mom wasn't always so happy I've
2:23always loved her I still love her
2:25greatly but I did have a little a little
2:28bit of a grudge against Mama even though
2:31by all accounts nothing in his life
2:32seemed out of the ordinary Dennis always
2:35knew that he had something peculiar and
2:37Sinister about him one occasion that
2:40Dennis has described as possibly being
2:41the starting point for the trajectory of
2:43the rest of his life was when he was
2:45just a young boy the day his mom's ring
2:48got caught on a couch spring and she
2:50couldn't get her hand out she was
2:52terrified and told him go get help go
2:54get help but instead Dennis said that he
2:58felt the first stirrings of arousal
3:00possibly the first feelings of arousal
3:03in general given his age he felt excited
3:06watching a woman helpless and it was the
3:09beginning of his ideas about women and
3:11that what he wanted from them was to
3:13keep them trapped and helpless and
3:15looking to him in Terror this memory
3:17ultimately became imprinted in his mind
3:19and became the image he was always after
3:23when Dennis was in fifth grade he had an
3:25issue with his teacher he felt like she
3:27was domineering and mean to him and had
3:29embarrassed him in class one day so
3:31Dennis decided to go to her house and
3:33watch her through the windows most of
3:36the time he would just see her doing
3:37mundane things but Dennis was hooked in
3:40doing this something about watching a
3:42woman that had no idea that she was
3:44being watched gave Dennis a sense of
3:47power control and a sense of control
3:49over the situation and this was very
3:52arousing to Dennis one day as he was
3:54being a Peeping Tom Dennis took a rope
3:57with him and he tied it around his waist
3:59and he watched her something about the
4:02Rope around his waist while watching her
4:04brought him back to those feelings of
4:06power control and arousal but this time
4:09he actually got off if you know what I
4:12mean now I don't know if he was
4:14physically actually touching himself
4:15when this occurred or if it was just the
4:17thought as he was you know watching her
4:19and feeling the Rope but in any event it
4:22came to a and I know that's literally
4:25nauseating and disgusting but this is
4:27the level of like twisted and the sick
4:29kind of person that he is
4:31in his later teen years sometimes Dennis
4:33would bind his hands and ankles with
4:35rope and cover his head with a bag he
4:38also cut out photos of women from
4:39magazines whom he found arousing and
4:42Drew ropes and gags on them on their
4:44images imagining how he could restrain
4:46and control them
4:48Dennis has described his childhood
4:50saying that he sort of had some problems
4:52sexual sexual fantasies probably more
4:56than normal all males probably go
4:58through some kind of a sexual fantasy
5:00mine was probably a bit weirder than
5:02other people uh yeah bro you think
5:05that's like not even the definition of
5:07weird you can't even use that word it's
5:09something completely different which I
5:10can't even think of what word comes to
5:11mind except ew ew Dennis also tortured
5:16killed and sometimes even hung small
5:18animals now we've heard all about this
5:20as being like a red flag in young
5:23children the second somebody is found
5:24torturing animals it's like you know
5:26they're gonna most likely turn into a
5:27complete sociopath so he was torturing
5:30killing and even would hang them up
5:32sometimes so this combined with his
5:34sadistic sexual fantasies would later
5:37turn him into one of America's most
5:38heinous serial killers who played a sick
5:41game of cat and mouse with law
5:43enforcement for almost three decades his
5:46shocking arrest blew the minds of
5:48everybody he knew because he hid in
5:50plain sight as a loving husband and a
5:52good man and ultimately that threw a
5:55wrench in the characterization and
5:56profiles of serial killers because he
5:59didn't fit the stereotypical mold like
6:01his Infamous predecessors
6:03so what was his life like well somehow
6:06he maintained an ordinary appearance and
6:08could compartmentalize the dark and
6:10deviant side of himself Dennis graduated
6:13high school from Wichita Heights High
6:15School and later went to a local
6:17University But ultimately dropped out
6:19after a year from there he enlisted in
6:22the U.S Air Force and served for four
6:24years between 1966 and 1970. after that
6:28he returned back to Kansas this time in
6:31Park City and he caught up with his old
6:33friends and was beginning to start the
6:34rest of his life his mom ended up
6:36introducing him to a girl from the local
6:38church that she wanted to set Dennis up
6:40with and her name was Paula well Dennis
6:43and Paula hit it off and they got
6:44married in 1971. they had a house in
6:47Park City Kansas and during this time
6:49everything on the surface seemed
6:51completely normal for Dennis he had a
6:54job as an electrician for the Coleman
6:56company which is an outdoor supply
6:57company and he went back to college and
6:59received an associate's degree in
7:01electronics in 1973. in 1975 Dennis and
7:05Paula had welcomed their firstborn child
7:07Brian uh Brian but it's Brian with an
7:09eye after Brian was born Dennis
7:11continued his education and later got a
7:13Bachelor's degree in science and
7:15administrative Justice at Wichita State
7:17University during that time Dennis and
7:20Paula had their second child a daughter
7:22named Carrie Dennis was a good father
7:24and loved his wife and children deeply
7:27he was a member of Christ Lutheran
7:29Church in Wichita and had been elected
7:31president of the church Council and was
7:33also a cub scout leader
7:35from 1974 to 1988 he worked at the
7:38Wichita based office of ADT Security
7:40where he installed security alarms in
7:43May of 1991 he became a compliance
7:46officer in Park City in this position
7:48neighbors recalled him as being
7:50sometimes overzealous and extremely
7:52strict as well as taking special
7:54pleasure in bullying and harassing
7:57single women but other than that one
7:59account Not only was he well liked
8:01within his community he came off as the
8:03perfect husband and father and an
8:05upstanding citizen
8:07now let's dig a little deeper into what
8:09else Dennis was up to during that time
8:11because as you'll soon find out this
8:13side of his life was a complete and
8:15utter farce I know that that was a lot
8:18of dates that I just spit out at you and
8:20a lot of information but don't worry
8:21because it is all going to come together
8:23shortly now after Dennis and Paul got
8:26married Dennis had a job as an
8:28electrician while working towards his
8:29associate degree however at some point
8:31in 1973 Dennis was laid off from his job
8:34Dennis was 28 years old and out of work
8:37and this was a huge blow to him so while
8:40he spent time at home planning his next
8:42move while his wife was at work
8:43unbeknownst to everybody Dennis was
8:46actually planning a different next move
8:48entirely losing his job is actually what
8:51set him off to commit his first home
8:53break-in now obviously that is a huge
8:57leap people don't just get laid off or
9:00get fired or even quit their job and
9:01decide hey you know what I'm going to
9:03start breaking into homes but this was a
9:06big leap for Dennis Dennis says that he
9:09was just frustrated with the system and
9:10had an opportunity and so he wanted to
9:12go on the prowl and decided to break
9:14into his first home Dennis planned this
9:16and even had some practice sessions all
9:19to amp himself up and to get himself
9:21ready to do this but even though the
9:23people that had lived inside the home
9:25had absolutely nothing to do with him
9:27losing his job Dennis said that he
9:30basically wanted to do something deviant
9:31as a way to relieve his frustration and
9:34this goes back to his distorted sense of
9:36power and control from his childhood to
9:39him planning and organizing a crime was
9:42taking his power back but he didn't stop
9:44it just breaking into homes and being a
9:46pervert and stealing bras and underwear
9:48during these break-ins Dennis decided
9:51that he wanted to up the ante and this
9:53time to do something even darker
9:56this is when his heinous murder spree
9:58began
9:59Ted Bundy once said we serial killers
10:02are your sons we are your husbands we
10:04are everywhere and there will be more of
10:06your children dead tomorrow
10:09serial killers was a phrase coined after
10:11Ted Bundy and as much as I hate to say
10:13it he was kind of dead on when it came
10:15to Dennis Raider Julian Joseph Otero had
10:18five children and had just moved to
10:19Wichita Kansas
10:21Dennis saw Julie walking her children to
10:23school while he was driving his own wife
10:25to work and he just picked her at random
10:27and said that's her he stalked her for a
10:31little bit to learn her schedule and
10:32knew that her husband and children
10:33should be gone during the weekdays but
10:36on January 15 1974 Julian Joseph's three
10:40oldest children had gone to school that
10:42day leaving the other two younger ones
10:44nine-year-old Joey Jr and 11 year old
10:46Josie at home with their parents Joseph
10:49Julie's husband wasn't going to work
10:51that day when Dennis approached the home
10:53he encountered a dog which also threw
10:55him off completely he had never seen a
10:58dog and wasn't aware that the family had
10:59one then he took a pair of wire cutters
11:02and snipped the phone line so that Julie
11:04wouldn't be able to call the police
11:06while doing this and peeping in the
11:08windows he saw that Julie's husband was
11:10home at this point Julie was the only
11:13person that Dennis had planned on
11:15killing and he didn't expect Joseph to
11:17be there in fact he even wondered if
11:19this would be a problem for him in the
11:22end though he didn't care he had made
11:24his decision and he would do the same
11:25thing when it came upon the two youngest
11:28children
11:28this was what he planned and anyone who
11:31stood in the way of that would have to
11:33go as well it didn't matter if she was
11:35the Target and if there were other
11:37people in the home he had a mission set
11:40out in front of him if he catch my drift
11:42there with the parallels to coburger
11:45Dennis said that Joey Jr and Josie were
11:47forced to watch while he strangled their
11:49parents to death then Dennis strangled
11:52Joey Jr and dragged Josie down into the
11:54basement where Dennis pulled off her
11:56underwear and hung her from a sewer pipe
11:59her last words were to ask what would
12:01happen to her and Dennis calmly told her
12:04well honey you're going to be in heaven
12:06tonight with the rest of your family
12:08he took pictures of the dead bodies and
12:11gathered up Josie's underwear as a
12:12trophy of his first murders then this
12:16heartless evil disgusting excuse for a
12:19human went home to his wife and acted
12:21like nothing had ever happened
12:23after all he had to go home and get
12:26ready for church when the older children
12:28arrived back home their son Charlie who
12:31was 15 at the time walked to the back
12:33gate and realized that their dog lucky
12:35was outside in the snow which was not
12:37normal for Lucky Charlie opened up the
12:40back door and noticed that his mom's
12:41purse was on the stove flipped open then
12:44one of his siblings who went to the
12:45school that day ran up to Charlie and
12:47said hey don't come back here Mom and
12:50Dad are playing a bad trick on us so
12:53Charlie went back there opened his
12:55parents bedroom door and found his mom
12:57laying on the bed beat up his father had
13:00a belt around his neck and everything
13:02smelled like death
13:04Charlie told his brother to call the
13:06police but the brother said that the
13:07phone wasn't working so the brother went
13:09next door and called the police when the
13:11police arrived they talked to the three
13:13older children and realized they didn't
13:15know where their two younger siblings
13:16nine-year-old Joey and 11 year old Josie
13:19were when the police went through the
13:21house they found Joey dead in his
13:23bedroom but Josie was in the basement
13:26hanging from a pipe one of the things
13:28that the crime scene investigators
13:30noticed was that whoever did this
13:31changed the thermostat and set the heat
13:34on extremely high to make the bodies
13:36decompose faster and to mess up the
13:39police's ability to estimate the time of
13:41death another thing nothing in the house
13:44was stolen
13:45so who did this and what was their
13:48motive well when the police found a
13:50Josie in the basement again who is 11
13:52years old she was partially clothed and
13:56there was male fluid on her and around
13:58her body this told investigators that
14:01the crime was sexually motivated even
14:04though poor Josie wasn't touched in that
14:06way and wasn't forced to participate in
14:09any acts of that nature Instead This was
14:12done by a sicko that did this for his
14:14own solo gratification
14:17unfortunately back in 1974 there wasn't
14:19much that could be done with DNA at all
14:21however the police department took the
14:24DNA evidence properly and secured it one
14:26thing was taken from the house that
14:28police never noticed a small radio the
14:31family murders were the first taste of a
14:33Maniac in Wichita or in Kansas in
14:36general and the police were hopeful that
14:38this was a one-off situation but
14:40obviously they were wrong Dennis
14:42continued and each of his hunting
14:44conquests for victims would be something
14:46he would later call his projects each
14:49one had a unique name like project green
14:52for example from here he would scope out
14:54victims in a particular neighborhood one
14:57that was close to a highway which Dennis
14:59thought would be helpful for an easy
15:01getaway
15:02a few months later on April 4th 1974
15:05Catherine bright a 21 year old who
15:07Dennis had worked with before he was
15:09fired arrived home around 2PM with her
15:12brother Kevin now remember Dennis was
15:14going to school at Wichita State but he
15:16still found time between classes to
15:18watch her and to learn her schedule he
15:21spent about a month watching her and
15:23knew that he could easily break into her
15:25apartment while she was gone and then
15:27kill her Dennis planned for two o'clock
15:28which just goes to show how bold and
15:31Brazen he was to think that it would be
15:33a good idea to carry out a crime in the
15:35middle of the day nevertheless Catherine
15:38and Kevin went back to her apartment and
15:40were ambushed by Dennis who was hiding
15:42in Catherine's bedroom
15:44Dennis ran out with a gun pointed
15:46straight at them he was shocked to see
15:48Kevin but at that point once again he
15:51was already committed to going through
15:53with this and had no option but to kill
15:56both of them
15:57he forced Catherine and Kevin into her
15:59bedroom and ordered Kevin to tie
16:01Catherine's hands and feet then he took
16:03Kevin into another room and while trying
16:05to tie him up Kevin fought back and
16:07almost took the gun away from him but
16:09was unfortunately unsuccessful
16:12then Dennis took the gun and shot Kevin
16:14in the head twice thinking that he was
16:17dead then he went back to Catherine and
16:20tried to strangle her
16:22while that was happening somehow Kevin
16:24wasn't dead miraculously and was able to
16:27escape
16:28strangling Catherine wasn't working and
16:30Dennis started to freak out a little bit
16:32when he noticed that the apartment door
16:34was wide open and that's when he started
16:36to stab her in the stomach multiple
16:38times
16:39Kevin was able to run away and found
16:40some bystanders that helped him thank
16:42goodness but Catherine wasn't so lucky
16:45after emergency surgeries and blood
16:48transfusions she passed away Kevin was
16:51in critical condition but ended up
16:53miraculously surviving since Kevin
16:55survived he was actually able to give
16:57the police this sketch now remember guys
17:00this was the 70s so I know that picture
17:02is a little bit lacking compared to what
17:04sketches are these days
17:06Dennis did not necessarily want to stab
17:08Catherine but he did it because he was
17:10panicking and Dennis never used a knife
17:12again because he said it didn't give him
17:14the same satisfaction as torturing
17:16people
17:17Dennis loved the attention these crimes
17:19were getting in the newspaper and he
17:21loved feeling smarter than the police
17:23smarter than the police I'm just gonna
17:26say that one more time guys with a
17:28little bit of emphasis on it
17:30however in October of 1974 a random guy
17:33allegedly confessed to killing that
17:36entire family with two of his friends
17:38and nobody was about to take credit for
17:41something that Dennis did
17:43and that's when an editor at the Wichita
17:45Eagle received an anonymous phone call
17:48that directed him to a mechanical
17:50engineering book at the Wichita Public
17:52Library police found the book and a
17:55letter which detailed in-depth facts
17:57about the case that were unknown to the
17:59public something that only somebody with
18:01intimate knowledge of the crime scene or
18:03that the killer would know
18:05the Wichita Eagle called the police and
18:07back in the 70s the media typically did
18:10what the police asked them in this
18:12instance police asked them not to talk
18:15about this because they didn't want the
18:16public to know that there could possibly
18:18be a serial killer on the loose in this
18:20letter Dennis named himself BTK as he
18:24would later be infamously known as
18:27usually Killers Don't name themselves
18:29it's just something that catches in the
18:30headlines but he apparently felt like he
18:33deserved a name he said that the police
18:35would come to know his crimes because he
18:37would bind torture kill because he would
18:41bind torture and kill equaling BTK now
18:46guys when Dennis wrote this letter his
18:48wife Paula was three months pregnant
18:52can you even imagine like what a lunatic
18:57so 1974 was a crazy year for Dennis
19:00between the family Massacre and
19:03Catherine he had now killed five people
19:06since Dennis committed the two crimes
19:08very differently the police didn't
19:10suspect that the same killer was
19:12responsible and not only that the police
19:15didn't have any leads or anything
19:16connecting him at all other than that
19:19vague sketch which would later embolden
19:21him however in 1975 and 1976 Dennis went
19:25through his first quote-unquote cooling
19:27period and he didn't commit any other
19:29crimes for two years although this is
19:32common with serial killers it is still
19:34so incredibly chilling to think about
19:37Dennis had the ability to somehow turn
19:40this sadistic sexual fantasy killer side
19:42of him off which I actually would argue
19:44was his main side and go home to his
19:47wife and act like nothing ever happened
19:50in 1975 he and Paula welcomed their
19:52first child a son named Brian and after
19:54Brian was born Dennis continued his
19:57education and later started his bachelor
19:59degree in science and administrative
20:00Justice going back and thinking about
20:03the other children that he killed and
20:05then now welcoming your own child like
20:07nothing happened is a horrifying level
20:09of disassociation and
20:11compartmentalization in my opinion
20:13finally Dennis had enough playing daddy
20:16dearest his urges were building up
20:18inside of him again and he was gearing
20:20up again to go on another Killing Spree
20:22almost three years after he killed
20:25Catherine it was the day that he was now
20:27supposed to go after a woman named
20:29Cheryl one of his quote-unquote projects
20:32whom he had met at a bar but Cheryl
20:35wasn't home now this was not part of the
20:37plan and this enraged Dennis how could
20:40she not be home he had been stalking her
20:42learning her schedule learning her
20:44routine and this was not in it and he
20:46wasn't just going to go home and forget
20:48about it because for Dennis and I quote
20:49this the train was already on the tracks
20:53which is actually a phrase that Dennis
20:55used to describe the way he felt when
20:58things like this would happen he planned
21:00for this day since his wife would be at
21:02work and he had an alibi he had dressed
21:04up in a tweet overcoat and had a
21:06briefcase that contained his tools or
21:07what he called his hit kits where it had
21:10all the items that he would use during
21:11his crimes he was prepared and his hit
21:13kits included all types of bondage and
21:16ropes chains gags plastic bags Etc so to
21:19him there was no turning back at this
21:21point it wasn't even an option once he
21:24made up his mind his Twisted desires
21:26took over him and he would do anything
21:28to satisfy himself so it didn't matter
21:31that Cheryl wasn't home he would find
21:33somebody else luckily for Dennis he had
21:36scoped out this neighborhood and already
21:38had a few other projects of his in mind
21:41so instead he went down the neighborhood
21:43streets and knocked on a few doors of
21:45his projects but nobody answered the
21:48door then he went down a different
21:49street 3 and came in contact with a
21:51five-year-old boy Steven relford
21:54he showed the boy a picture and asked if
21:56he recognized the people in it and the
21:58boy said no then the boy went inside his
22:01house Dennis saw this as an opportunity
22:03surely there had to be a woman Inside
22:06likely the little boy's mother
22:08so about 15 minutes later he went up to
22:11the house and knocked on the little
22:12boy's door little Stephen opened the
22:14door and was immediately shoved out of
22:16the way and Dennis stormed into the
22:18house
22:19Dennis pulled down the blinds turned off
22:21the TV and forced Steven and his two
22:24siblings to get in the bathroom then he
22:26pushed a bed against the door so the
22:28kids could not get out however there was
22:30a crack in the door where Steven was
22:32able to have almost a direct line of
22:34view of his mother Shirley vian's
22:36bedroom Dennis told Shirley he planned
22:39on having his way with her she was
22:41freaking out but somehow he was able to
22:43lead her to believe that there wouldn't
22:45be any sort of sex assault and calmed
22:48her down by giving her a glass of water
22:50and even smoked a cigarette with her he
22:53even got her to ask her kids to stop
22:55screaming and promised if they did that
22:57that everything would be okay
22:59little Stephen was in the bathroom
23:01watching through a crack and saw Dennis
23:03tape his mother's hands and her feet
23:05around her back put a bag over her head
23:07a rope around her neck and lay her face
23:10down then he left
23:13Stephen kept ramming the door over and
23:15over again until finally there was a
23:16hole in it he ran to his mother's room
23:18and saw what he now describes as an
23:21image burned in his head that will never
23:23go away
23:24Dennis strangled Shirley with a cord
23:26around her neck he also left his bodily
23:29fluids on her underwear which were found
23:31next to her body he did not touch her
23:34sexually in any way this was another
23:36case of his own solo satisfaction
23:39Journey
23:40Shirley was only 24 when she was
23:43murdered now at this point Dennis was a
23:45father with a living child it wasn't
23:48just an idea to him that he would one
23:49day maybe have a child and yet he let
23:52these other kids scream and cry while
23:54they watched him brutally murder their
23:56mother
23:57Dennis said that this didn't bother him
23:59though because his objective was the
24:01mother he even compared it to being in
24:03World War II and flying a bomber with an
24:06anime aircraft shooting you down but the
24:08main focus is to drop the bombs and
24:10nothing else matters
24:11seriously he actually compared young
24:13children crying for their mom as an
24:15enemy aircraft he also wasn't worried
24:18about what would happen to them saying
24:20that they were old enough to take care
24:21of themselves well Steven was the oldest
24:23and he was just what five or six so
24:25either that was a lie altogether or it
24:28just goes to show how truly delusional
24:30Dennis was later on Dennis said he
24:33thought that he would kill the kids too
24:34but he either got spooked or decided not
24:38to it almost goes without saying but his
24:40complete lack of remorse and
24:42self-reflection is more than disturbing
24:44it's just unfathomable but certainly
24:47it's in line with the thought patterns
24:49of a full-blown narcissistic psychopath
24:52Wichita Police believed that the person
24:55responsible for Shirley's death could be
24:57related to the family Massacre as well
24:59because of the way that Shirley was tied
25:01up and with those bodily fluids next to
25:03her which one point I want to make
25:06Dennis Raider never assaulted anybody
25:09sexually and he says that even serial
25:12killers have some type of taboo and that
25:15was his he never realized that this
25:17doesn't make him not that bad or less of
25:19an evil psycho because murder is still a
25:21crime arguably the worst crime you could
25:24commit so how is it that too far but
25:27murder is somehow okay it's just
25:30ludicrous and news flash that doesn't
25:32give you some type of moral compass all
25:35right you're still disgusting you're
25:37still a pile of crap and you're still
25:39creepy and weird as F now the types of
25:42knots and bindings were also the same
25:44which were kinds of knots not for
25:46holding somebody down or preventing them
25:48from moving they were used for sexual
25:50gratification police also believed that
25:53while there was never a burglary per se
25:55whoever was responsible took personal
25:57belongings from his victims like
25:59underwear bras pantyhose Etc to continue
26:01to fantasize about the situation long
26:04after the crime because Shirley's kids
26:06had seen him Dennis was worried that
26:08they might be able to identify him so he
26:11didn't immediately try to toy with law
26:12enforcement he also waited until
26:14December almost nine months later before
26:17he would pick his next victim in
26:19December 1977 while he was feeling a
26:22little bit cocky because he now had
26:24gotten away with six murders and felt
26:26like he was in the clear since nothing
26:27had happened he realized that he had
26:29made some planning mistakes with his
26:31past victims and close calls with
26:33unknown factors so he wanted to make
26:35sure that his next project would go down
26:38without any hiccups
26:40Dennis saw a young woman outside during
26:42one of his prowls he had found his next
26:45victim in this and that was 25 year old
26:47Nancy Fox
26:49she was petite young and blonde he
26:52became obsessed with stalking her for
26:54several weeks leading up to December he
26:56knew her routine and followed her to her
26:58jobs
26:59since it was the holiday season Nancy
27:01had picked up a second job at the mall
27:03Dennis actually followed her there and
27:06would just act like a random Shopper so
27:08that he would just have the chance to
27:10talk to her or bump into her I mean this
27:13creepy guy I don't even know what to say
27:15I'm running out of words to even
27:16describe this low life this is some sick
27:19stuff on December 8 1977 he cut Nancy's
27:22phone line and then broke into her
27:24duplex from the back door from there he
27:27waited for her to come home and when she
27:29did he jumped out and surprised her with
27:31a gun he told her that he had a sexual
27:33issue and that in order to get rid of
27:35that issue he had to tie her up and
27:38assault her sexually after being allowed
27:40to halfway undress herself in the
27:42bathroom he made her go into her bedroom
27:44then he tied her up and started to
27:46undress himself and started to strangle
27:49her as he strangled her he confessed to
27:52her who he really was and what he had
27:54done in the past her body was found
27:56later with bodily fluids on her
27:58nightgown
27:59now at this point Dennis was working for
28:02ADT yes ADT the security company he went
28:06home to his wife and now two-year-old
28:08son and again acted like business as
28:11usual a normal day at work nothing to
28:13see here just hey guys hey family
28:15welcome home I'm home well after a long
28:16day I'm so tired where's dinner in fact
28:19he was probably the reason for adt's
28:21sudden spike in business and here he was
28:23the reason that people wanted security
28:25and home protection in the first place
28:28the following day on his way to work
28:29Dennis was hungry for attention
28:31immediate attention this time he needed
28:34acknowledgment from the police that they
28:36knew BTK killed again so he decided to
28:39ring up the local police department from
28:41a pay phone and said this
28:52um
29:04the police rushed to Nancy's duplex and
29:07found her body strangled to death the
29:10police tried to replay the recording of
29:12his voice many times but never found a
29:14match and at this point the police
29:16hadn't 100 linked Nancy's death with BTK
29:21Dennis was actually worried that many
29:23people may recognize his voice and then
29:25would say oh my gosh I know this guy and
29:27that he would be caught but he then
29:29reassured himself thinking of all of the
29:31times in the past that he was never
29:32caught even when he thought he was going
29:34down now this emboldened Dennis and made
29:37him feel like he was special and much
29:39smarter than the police which led him to
29:42making more risky decisions in the
29:43future but in the meantime he had to do
29:45some chores back in his double life
29:47marriage to Paula and being a father to
29:49his son in fact a year later in 1978
29:53Paula and Dennis welcomed a second child
29:55a daughter named Carrie the same year in
29:581978 Dennis realized it had been four
30:01years since he had Direct correspondence
30:03with the police through his letters and
30:05now that he committed two more murders
30:07he was looking for attention because he
30:10or BTK wasn't getting the publicity he
30:13felt he deserved so he decided to
30:15approach another media Outlet
30:17k-a-k-e which I believe was an affiliate
30:20of ABC
30:22he thought it would be a good idea to
30:24send a sarcastic poem about Nancy's
30:26murder along with a serious letter where
30:29the mysterious BTK was again taking
30:31responsibility for the past seven
30:33homicides including Shirley and
30:35Catherine and revealing intimate details
30:38about the crime
30:39It Was Written the same way as the
30:41letter that was found in October of 1974
30:43by the Wichita Eagle except this letter
30:46included a term factor x which is
30:49something we will get more into later
30:51but is basically the Dark Side of
30:53himself that he blames all of his
30:54actions on the Wichita Police Department
30:57had not told the public that there was a
30:59serial killer on the loose which
31:00frustrated him because he wanted his
31:02work to be recognized in this letter he
31:06wrote how many people do I have to kill
31:08to get my name in the paper signed BTK
31:12ultimately the police chief decided that
31:15he needed to come clean with the public
31:16when Dennis heard the news he said he
31:19felt a pretty big buzz and it was a very
31:21big high for him he finally got
31:23recognition and was feeling good about
31:25himself and he even compared himself to
31:27a movie star
31:29people in Wichita were absolutely
31:31terrified it changed the entire way that
31:34they went about their routines they
31:36didn't have an answer for what had
31:37happened and they were just baffled
31:39young women were especially scared
31:41because they were worried that they
31:43would be the next victim Dennis felt
31:45like he had control of the public the
31:47news media and the police department at
31:49this point
31:50in November of 1978 police had another
31:53idea since so many of Dennis's letters
31:55were made of things he used a copy
31:57machine with the police contacted Xerox
32:00hoping that they would be able to
32:02identify or narrow down the copy machine
32:05and they were able to they figured out
32:07that it came from a copy machine at
32:09Wichita State University this was the
32:12closest they would come to catching
32:14Dennis for a very long time
32:16in 1979 he graduated with his bachelor's
32:19in science and administrative Justice
32:21from Wichita State he has later admitted
32:24to looking for things in his education
32:26that would help him in his crimes like
32:28forensics he said he made sure not to
32:30leave fingerprints and would wear gloves
32:32like you would wash dishes with of
32:34course the DNA part didn't really Dawn
32:36on him since this was long before DNA
32:38was really used in solving crimes
32:41all of these things just made him feel
32:42like some type of genius and that now he
32:45knew what to do when committing crimes
32:46to go completely and totally unnoticed
32:49and not leave a trace of evidence
32:51when asked what he wanted to do with his
32:53degree he said that he applied for the
32:55Wichita Police Department the sheriff's
32:57department and Highway Patrol but that
33:00they had all turned him away
33:03guys quickly going to talk about
33:05parallels remember when Brian applied
33:07for the internship with the local police
33:09department remember when he said he
33:11leaned on his education to figure out
33:13how to avoid certain things in his
33:15crimes from getting caught could all be
33:18a coincidence but we also know he
33:19studied directly under the professor who
33:22worked with BTK who wrote btk's
33:24biography who probably shared a lot
33:26about this in different classes and
33:28courses so I'm just saying at the Kansas
33:30Bureau of Investigation One agent spoke
33:33out and said that they had read
33:34everything that he wrote and sent in
33:36every piece of paper was examined
33:38everything looked at and not one piece
33:40ever had a fingerprint hair a fiber that
33:43could be identified nothing so Dennis
33:46definitely was trying to cover his
33:48tracks the best he could and the classes
33:50that he took are helping him evade being
33:52on police's radar on April 28 1979
33:55Dennis had plans to kill another
33:57unsuspecting woman this time a 63 year
34:01old named Anna Williams Dennis staked
34:04out her house all day but finally gave
34:06up because she was taking too long to
34:08come home and I didn't know this but at
34:10the time this actually saved her life
34:12however two months later Anna figured
34:15out that she was a Target after she
34:16received several of her personal items
34:18like a scarf in the mail that Dennis had
34:20taken from the house along with a poem
34:23that read oh Anna why didn't you appear
34:26can you imagine how terrifying that must
34:30have been to open your mailbox and see
34:32your own items being sent to you with a
34:35creepy poem this was also a way to get
34:37law enforcement's attention again
34:38because he hoped that she would call the
34:40police and that they would know BTK was
34:43still out there
34:44in 1980 he decided to take his second
34:47major cooling off period it was two
34:49years since his last murder since his
34:51plans with Anna didn't work out and he
34:53actually didn't kill anyone again for
34:55many years again he laid low and got on
34:59with pretending his life was normal just
35:01raising his children and being married
35:02to the public and the police it seemed
35:05like he literally just vanished and that
35:07everything would get back to normal for
35:09the most part there were times where he
35:11felt like the police could be closing in
35:13and believed that the next knock on the
35:15door would be the police ready to arrest
35:16him and even later said that calling the
35:19police and letting them hear his voice
35:20was one of his biggest regrets between
35:23raising his kids and faking his normal
35:25life he said that he didn't have time to
35:27kill anyone but the stalking never
35:29stopped during his longer cooling
35:32periods like this one it's not like all
35:34of a sudden his urges went away instead
35:37he would use some of his trophies like
35:40bras underwear pantyhose the pictures
35:42that he took of the bodies all to play
35:44pleasure himself in secret
35:46sometimes he would even wear a mask and
35:48wigs and wear some of the things that he
35:50took and take pictures of himself to try
35:52to replicate the crime scene and he
35:54would take these pictures of himself
35:55with a tripod that he had set up for his
35:57Polaroid camera he wanted to picture
35:59what the victims felt like when they
36:01were about to die guys the pictures he
36:03took of himself are available online if
36:05you look for them and they are
36:06disgusting and disturbing so be warned
36:09he kept some of his tokens or trophies
36:12in what he called hidey holes because at
36:14this point he had so much stuff that he
36:16couldn't keep it all inside his house he
36:18had a very detailed map of all of the
36:20locations where things were buried all
36:22over Wichita he also kept a few journals
36:25where he would draw the scenes from some
36:26of his victims another thing he would
36:29take note cards and cut out pictures of
36:31models from magazines or drawings of
36:33women with ropes and then take the note
36:35cards with him while he went on drives
36:37he pretended like the model on the note
36:40card was with him and he would start
36:41talking dirty to it then he would get
36:44home with his note card get in the
36:46shower and you know you know budger
36:49himself
36:50Dennis later admitted that the reason
36:52there weren't more victims during these
36:54years was because he had just as much
36:56fun playing with himself as he would the
36:59victims which I'm literally like
37:01vomiting over here guys that is like so
37:04disgusting to think about oh bro keep to
37:07yourself keep it to yourself
37:09his wife and children had no idea that
37:11this was ever going on however there
37:14were two occasions when he got sloppy
37:16and his wife caught him dressed in bra
37:18and nightgown type outfits with a mask
37:20on of course murder didn't pop into her
37:23head she just thought he was just
37:24dressing in her nightgowns or something
37:26and you know something's a little
37:28suspicious here and she told him this is
37:31it if you ever do this again and I catch
37:33you I will leave you and I'll take the
37:34kids too weird for me
37:36Dennis was mainly upset because he got
37:38caught but made sure that it never
37:40happened again as in getting caught
37:42again not dressing up and doing his own
37:44you know hanky-panky with himself he
37:47never stopped carrying out his fantasies
37:48even when it meant risking his life with
37:51his wife and his children
37:52in 1984 the Wichita Police Department
37:55created a task force to find BTK because
37:58they didn't believe that he just
37:59disappeared and they wanted to figure
38:01out who the madman behind the initials
38:03was the task force was called
38:06Ghostbusters
38:08by 1985 it had been eight years since
38:11his last murder and the police and
38:12public thought that maybe BTK did go
38:15away maybe he died maybe he got arrested
38:17in another state nobody was sure
38:19he was involved in church and his
38:21children were now 10 and 7. his son
38:24joined the Cub Scouts and Dennis became
38:25the cub scout leader one of the things
38:28he enjoyed the most was teaching all of
38:30the different kinds of knots you can
38:32make uh gross you guessed it although
38:35none of those things seemed to truly
38:37matter to him because he already had his
38:39eye on his next victim
38:4153-year-old Marine hedge AKA project
38:45cookie Marine had lived on the same
38:47block as Dennis's family for over 30
38:50years in Park City Kansas Maureen was a
38:53widow and kind and a devoted mother to
38:55her three daughters one son and
38:57grandchildren she enjoyed Bingo yard
38:59work and attending church it's
39:01interesting because up till this point
39:03it seemed like for the most part Dennis
39:05had gone after younger women and a lot
39:07of the younger women in the Wichita
39:08Community feared being attacked the most
39:10but as you see he didn't have a
39:13preference his Target was pretty much
39:15anyone he chose April 27 1985 Dennis was
39:19in in the middle of one of his son's boy
39:21scout campout weekends when he claimed
39:23to have a headache and said that he
39:25needed to leave you'd think that while
39:27you're at a Boy Scout weekend for your
39:29son and you're actually one of the
39:30leaders that it would maybe seem like
39:32not a great time to go and kill someone
39:33but no Dennis knew no bounds he is truly
39:37despicable
39:39well so much for that headache which we
39:41kind of already knew was a lie because
39:42instead he got into his car and went to
39:44a bowling alley nearby there he bought a
39:47beer and spilled some on his shirt and
39:49swished around some beer in his mouth so
39:51that he would smell like alcohol or look
39:53like he had been drinking then he got a
39:56taxi to Park City he got to Maureen's
39:58house and cut her phone line then he
40:00snuck through the back door he assumed
40:03that she would be home and to his
40:04surprise she wasn't so he waited and
40:07finally saw a car pull up into the
40:09driveway however it wasn't just Marine
40:11coming home there was a man with her he
40:14wasn't expecting to see anybody else so
40:16he decided to hide in Maureen's closet
40:18until the man left
40:20he didn't want to have another Kevin
40:22situation where Kevin escaped and gave
40:24the police that sketch of him finally at
40:271am the man left and Maureen went to
40:29sleep Dennis jumped out of the closet
40:31turned on the bathroom light and got on
40:33top of marine and started choking her to
40:35death once she had died he dragged her
40:37body outside into the trunk of her car
40:39he drove to the church where he was on
40:41the church Council and had keys to the
40:43building then he put black plastic over
40:46the window so that nobody could see
40:48inside and dragged her body to the
40:50basement of the church
40:51he positioned Maureen on the altar with
40:54her body tied up in a sexually graphic
40:56form of bondage and took photographs
40:59with a Polaroid camera before putting
41:01her body back in the trunk of the car
41:02and taking off then he dumped the body
41:05in a ditch along a dirt road known as a
41:07dump site for dog carcasses not that far
41:10from their neighborhood in Park City
41:12he buried her body under the trees and
41:14brush when Dennis discussed this and was
41:17asked if he felt bad about doing that in
41:18a church he said something to the effect
41:20of yeah I probably shouldn't have done
41:22that this was also the first time he
41:24took a body out of the house criminal
41:26experts have theorized that he was
41:28getting more bold and actually more
41:30Reckless and sloppy
41:32Maureen didn't show up the next day at
41:34our job at the coffee shop and the
41:35manager and longtime friend of Marines
41:37was concerned Maureen would just never
41:39not show up and was always an extremely
41:41Dependable worker
41:43a welfare check was done on marine and a
41:45missing person's report went out for a
41:47marine eight days later Marine's car was
41:49found with a blanket and bed spread in
41:51the trunk police found her purse in the
41:53car but her ID was gone
41:56police searched all weekend and three
41:58days later on May 5th 1985 Marine's body
42:01was found she was completely nude and
42:04there was a pair of pantyhose in knots
42:06next to her body
42:07her autopsy revealed she died of
42:09strangulation her children and her
42:12grandchildren were devastated but again
42:14Dennis walked away seemingly scot-free
42:17getting away with yet another murderer
42:20when investigating her death the police
42:22noticed that her phone line was cut and
42:24thought it could be BTK since he hadn't
42:27been caught but since her body wasn't in
42:28the house they were having trouble
42:30making a concrete connection
42:33by September of 1986 a little over a
42:36year since the last murder Dennis had
42:38already picked out his next Target 28
42:41year old Vicki wegerly and he started to
42:44stalk her he walked by her house during
42:46the day and listened to her play the
42:48piano while he would brainstorm and
42:49carefully plan out what he would do when
42:51he killed her
42:53on September 16th around 10 a.m Dennis
42:56dressed up as someone who worked for the
42:57telephone company and went to Vicki's
42:59door she let him in thinking he was
43:01going to do maintenance on her phone
43:03line or fix it he messed with the phone
43:05for a little bit but then cut the phone
43:07line took out a gun and forced her into
43:09the bedroom as he was trying to tie her
43:12up Vicki fought back leaving some
43:14scratches and cuts on Dennis and he was
43:17not about to let her get away or Escape
43:19so he immediately got out a rope and
43:21choked her with a ton of force he took
43:24some photos of her body in different
43:25poses and then took off in Vicky's car
43:28bill wegerly Vicki's husband actually
43:30passed Dennis in Vicky's car but later
43:33said he didn't know who was driving it
43:35when he got home he saw his two-year-old
43:38in the living room and found his wife on
43:40the floor a little bit underneath the
43:42bed Dennis got rid of any evidence
43:44parked Vicky's car a few blocks away
43:45from her house and then walked home
43:47changed his clothes and went back to his
43:49life as a family man again like nothing
43:53happened Vicki's husband bill was
43:55investigated for his wife's death at
43:57first but they couldn't prove it was him
43:58and Dennis got away with another murder
44:01police had no idea that this was BTK and
44:04the case remained unsolved with now nine
44:07victims under his belt Dennis took
44:09another five-year Hiatus disappearing
44:12and frustrating the police once again he
44:15was in his mid-40s now and proud that he
44:17was able to go undetected for so long
44:20in 1991 Dennis's children were 15 and 13
44:23and he was still married to Paula Dennis
44:26wanted to kill a 10th victim and wanted
44:28to plan this one out very carefully he
44:31figured that older women were more
44:33vulnerable than the younger women so he
44:35set out to find his next project and he
44:38found her a 62 year old woman named
44:40Dolores Davis who lived alone and only
44:43lived a mile and a half away from
44:45Dennis's home
44:46she was a good kind and loving person he
44:49had a very well thought out plan to get
44:51what would now be his last victim he was
44:54going camping with the Cub Scouts over
44:56the weekend and thought that this would
44:57be the perfect opportunity for him to be
44:59able to get away with it without his
45:01family knowing
45:02on January 19 1991 he came up with
45:05another excuse to leave the Cub Scouts
45:07camping meeting then he drove his car to
45:10his parents house and changed he drove
45:12to a Baptist Church in Park City parked
45:15and began walking
45:16once he got to her house he waited
45:18outside until he thought that she would
45:20be asleep he took a cinder block and
45:22broke out the glass on the back door to
45:24break in
45:25this woke Dolores up and she came out of
45:28her bedroom and saw Dennis standing
45:30there he tied her up with her own
45:32pantyhose and in her bedroom he
45:34whispered in her ear I'm BTK and then
45:38strangled her like he did with Maureen
45:40he took her body and put it in the trunk
45:42of her own car then he drove it near a
45:44lake and hid the body as well as other
45:46items that he used underneath some trees
45:48he drove to a lake near Park City and
45:51hid the body and evidence underneath
45:52some trees near Park City and of course
45:55took some photos
45:56then he drove back to her house took her
45:59jewelry box wiped down the car for
46:00fingerprints and left to go back to the
46:03Baptist Church where his car was parked
46:05once in his car he drove straight back
46:07to where Dolores was put her body in the
46:10trunk and then dumped it under a bridge
46:12in Sedgwick County
46:13this time he went back to change into
46:15his cub scout leader uniform and went
46:17back to the camping weekend where his
46:19son and other teenage boys were Dolores
46:22had a boyfriend who came to her house
46:23the next day and saw the broken window
46:25and noticed that she was missing and he
46:27filed a missing persons report
46:29even though Dennis was back at the camp
46:31he snuck out again the next night to go
46:34back to the body on the way back to the
46:36camp he ran into a State Trooper at a
46:39rest area and the guy said hey there was
46:40a crime we're looking for anyone out
46:42here that looks out of place and Dennis
46:44was immediately worried about that
46:46jewelry box in his car and if the
46:48trooper was going to ask to look inside
46:50but since he was in a Cub Scout uniform
46:52and explained that he was just heading
46:53back to the camping weekend the state
46:55trooper didn't think he stood out and so
46:58he left police discovered her body and
47:00later identified Dolores there was
47:02nothing in her house the car didn't have
47:04prints and there was really nothing for
47:06the police to go off of in the past
47:08police considered that Maureen and Vicki
47:10could have been killed by BTK and now
47:12possibly even Dolores but because of the
47:15huge gaps of time between and the many
47:16differences police really didn't know
47:19for sure
47:20after 1991 even though he never killed
47:23another victim he never stopped stalking
47:25or hunting potential projects in May of
47:281991 he became a dog catcher and a
47:31compliance officer in Park City
47:33basically this job was just to monitor
47:35neighborhoods and make sure that homes
47:36were in compliance in a way this job
47:39gave him a reason to be out on the
47:41streets at night but this time with a
47:43uniform and an official position so he
47:46had a grandiose sense of superiority and
47:49authority over others and neighbors
47:51recalled him again as being sometimes
47:54overzealous and extremely strict as well
47:56as taking special pleasure in bullying
47:58and harassing single women
48:0113 years passed and it was January 15
48:042004 marking the 30th anniversary of the
48:08family Massacre murders and it was also
48:1025 years since his last correspondence
48:13with police or media
48:15so since it was a 30th Anniversary a
48:18headline in a newspaper came out saying
48:20after 30 years BTK remains unsolved
48:24in the article it mentioned an attorney
48:26was writing a book on BTK and his seven
48:29victims this enraged Dennis he was so
48:33arrogant that he had to be the one to
48:35tell his story his legacy and saying
48:37that it was only seven victims since the
48:39real number was 10 was unacceptable to
48:42him
48:43this morning we have more information on
48:45the letter sent to the Wichita Eagle by
48:47the BTK killer the Wichita Eagle
48:49received a letter from Bill Thomas
48:51killman that had a photocopy of an old
48:54Polaroid that showed a woman's body on
48:56the floor and a copy of the driver's
48:58license Vicki wegerly the letter also
49:01included details that only the killer
49:03would know and investigators knew that
49:05they never took pictures of her body on
49:06the floor the end of the letter had
49:09btk's signature he hoped that this would
49:12be a declaration that BTK was still out
49:14there on the loose and that people
49:16needed to be afraid with this letter in
49:19BTK claiming an eighth victim it sparked
49:22fear throughout the community who now
49:23for 25 years had thought that this
49:25Maniac had gone away died or maybe was
49:28in prison anything they certainly didn't
49:30believe that he was living among them so
49:32this was very upsetting
49:34then in May of 2004 another task force
49:37was set up by the Wichita Police
49:39Department made up of the FBI and kbi
49:42agents as well they were set out on
49:44finding the killer their goal was to
49:46keep BTK to continue communicating with
49:48them in hopes that he would eventually
49:50get cocky and mess up
49:52news headlines came out and said that
49:54the killer could be a normal person a
49:57few months later another media Outlet
49:58received a letter that they believed was
50:00from BTK the letter included chapter
50:04titles for a BTK biography almost like a
50:07guide for how the media should cover him
50:09and then there was a puzzle a find the
50:12word letter grid spelling out Clues like
50:14prowl and Fantasies Dennis loved the
50:18attention that he was getting from the
50:19media and legitimately thought that the
50:21police would never be able to find him
50:22which kind of was a fair point because
50:25it had been 30 years and nothing had
50:26happened but it was his own narcissistic
50:29attributes that were actually his demise
50:32in his screwed up game of cat and mouse
50:34he had delusions about what kind of
50:36relationship he had with some of the
50:38lead detectives in this case he thought
50:40that they respected him enough to always
50:42be honest with him and he even felt like
50:44he had a bond with some of them when he
50:46would see them on TV a few months later
50:48in 2004 he asked the police if he could
50:51correspond directly through them with a
50:53floppy disk but the police had to
50:55promise that they wouldn't install
50:57anything on the disk to track his
50:59computer and if the police agreed they
51:01needed to put an ad in the newspaper
51:03that said Rex it will be okay with the
51:06location of where to drop off the floppy
51:08disk when they went through the metadata
51:10of the floppy disk they were able to
51:12extract different files of different
51:14users one called Christ of the Lutheran
51:17Church in Park City and another file
51:19called Dennis I mean what an idiot like
51:22you actually are going to trust the
51:24police that they're not going to look up
51:25the digital evidence to figure out who
51:27you are a possible serial killer get
51:30real my guy
51:32so this was a major break for the
51:34investigators they tracked him down and
51:36pretty easily since he was the president
51:38of the church Council so they finally
51:40had a name Dennis Rader but before he
51:43could be arrested the police needed to
51:45do some housekeeping on their end to
51:47make sure that the arrest would stick
51:48they went back through all of the cases
51:51starting back in 1974 and collected the
51:54DNA samples back then at this point in
51:562005 DNA had come a really long way so
51:59they were extremely lucky that the DNA
52:01evidence was all preserved correctly
52:03since some of the DNA was collected
52:05three decades before
52:07once they analyzed it they were able to
52:10match it all to the same person then
52:13they had to figure out a way to get
52:14Dennis's DNA to get a sample to see if
52:17it was a match
52:18someone from the kbi realized that his
52:20daughter Carrie had attended college at
52:22Kansas State University and got a court
52:24order for her records to see if they had
52:26any samples that she had maybe given at
52:28the clinic there one of the samples on
52:31file was from a feminine exam that she
52:34had
52:35they tested the DNA and found that her
52:37DNA was one hundred percent The
52:40Offspring of BTK
52:43shortly after that local police kbi and
52:47FBI set their eyes on Dennis and they
52:49were ready to get this guy on February
52:5125th 2005 they started tracking him with
52:54tons of undercover cars and helicopters
52:56they pulled him over yanked him out of
52:58the car and he said to the officers
53:00would you mind telling my wife I won't
53:02be home for lunch I'm certain you know
53:05where I live when his arrest was
53:07announced by the media many women were
53:09crying with tears of joy because finally
53:11this Maniac serial killer was going to
53:13be behind bars and they wouldn't have to
53:15worry every night that they could be his
53:17next victim it's like the community
53:19collectively gave a major exhale his
53:22family and friends were shocked stunned
53:25and horrified his wife filed for an
53:27emergency divorce which was granted
53:28almost immediately Paula has never done
53:31any interviews and seems to want
53:33absolutely nothing to do with it however
53:35his daughter has done a lot of
53:37interviews and has even written tell-all
53:39books none of his family had any clue
53:41what was going on like not even the
53:43slightest clue which kind of makes them
53:46victims in all of this too I literally
53:48can't imagine the horror they went
53:50through when this all came to light
53:51during his interrogation once he found
53:54out that they had DNA samples and the
53:55games were over he confessed to the
53:58police
54:00we had moved into a room that we had
54:01prepared and he started talking and kind
54:04of danced around for a while and then
54:06they brought up the DNA these samples
54:08were correctly preserved
54:11and they could nail him
54:13anyway
54:15right
54:16you can't get out here unless you've had
54:19a total blood transfer and lost every
54:20organ
54:21it's there and there's at the almost the
54:23exact three hour mark of them being in
54:25the room and you said you got me on BTK
54:28I guess you guys don't well
54:35the belt that I use is where and I had
54:37her come back
54:41it was a bad guy and she really smart
54:46he spoke for over 30 hours yeah
54:54and he showed no remorse no regret the
54:58only regret he showed during this was
55:00that there weren't more victims he told
55:02us that we would discover what he termed
55:05his mother love
55:07there were journals and drawings he had
55:10materials that he collected from each of
55:13his victims four months later he pled
55:15guilty in court and during this the
55:16judge asked him to confess to everything
55:18he was sentenced to 10 life sentences
55:21which I think at the time in Kansas was
55:23175 years all without the possibility of
55:27parole BTK has been studied by many
55:29criminal psychologists over the years
55:31and he has had many college classes
55:33taught about him books written and even
55:36some television series mind Hunters on
55:38Netflix had a few episodes featuring BTK
55:40in their storyline but again most
55:42famously Dr Catherine ramsland developed
55:45a professional relationship with him and
55:47he agreed to tell her everything so that
55:50she could study him she has written
55:52several popular books about him as well
55:54recently a documentary was made about
55:56BTK where she spoke about him in depth
55:58later in life as I became a professor of
56:02forensic psychology
56:03extreme offenders were something we knew
56:07very little about
56:08and I wanted to contribute to that
56:12I published 68 books and have four more
56:15in the works
56:18not only do I write about serial killers
56:20I'm constantly teaching I do police
56:23trainings I do a broad variety of
56:27activities all surrounding my knowledge
56:30of extreme offenders
56:33a lot of myths have cropped up about
56:36serial killers so I especially want to
56:39study cases that show that these myths
56:43just don't work
56:45and law enforcement needs to understand
56:47this so that they don't dismiss a
56:50potential suspect too soon
56:53one of the reasons I wanted to work with
56:56him was to look at someone who appears
56:59to be an outlier
57:01and see what he teaches us
57:06because he's not unique
57:10there are others who have been family
57:13men churchgoers
57:15seemingly normal people who have these
57:19thoughts and sometimes act on these
57:21thoughts
57:23and so I think it's important for us to
57:25not just understand them but also treat
57:29them before they become serial killers
57:34most recently Dr ramsland has been in
57:36the media because Dr ramsland actually
57:38taught the suspect of the Idaho murders
57:41Brian coburger BTK didn't get enjoyment
57:43out of people in pain he liked the worry
57:46the fear and the suffering that he
57:48inflicted on his victims that's what he
57:51enjoyed the most and he called this his
57:53factor x which Dr ramsland really thinks
57:56it's just something he refers to because
57:58she believes this makes him feel special
58:00like he has a supernatural mystifying
58:02element about him so that she needs him
58:04so she can study him but she believes
58:06it's just a way to not take any
58:08accountability for any of his actions
58:10she also said that the one thing that
58:12BTK can't get over is that the police
58:14didn't respect him enough to not lie to
58:17him specifically about the floppy disk
58:20she said his narcissism makes him
58:22completely blind to the fact that they
58:24were never his friends and never enjoyed
58:26this game of cat and mouse they're
58:28talking to Raider and Lieutenant land
58:31where pulls up in a Ziploc evidence
58:33baggie with the purple floppy disk in it
58:36he slides it in front of raider and says
58:39know what this is Dennis Raider starts
58:42poking his finger
58:45forcefully on this floppy disk
58:48and he says I got a question I need to
58:51ask sure if you like
58:55oh anyway because I was trying to catch
58:58it she has also said that most serial
59:00killers aren't very creative and this
59:02was especially true for BTK he did a lot
59:05of CopyCat things from previous serial
59:07killers and even things he read about in
59:09detective magazines like changing the
59:11thermostat of the homes to really hot
59:12taking photographs of women's suffering
59:14those were all things that other serial
59:17killers had done first so I want to go
59:18back to btk's many applications to all
59:21of the different law enforcement
59:22agencies that he didn't get hired for
59:24when he got his bachelor's degree in
59:27administrative Justice Dr ramsland said
59:29that because of this study he felt like
59:31he knew more and could be a better
59:32Predator she also said that serial
59:35killers who are attracted to law
59:36enforcement know that a police officer
59:38is in a position to know a lot more
59:40about potential victims and they can
59:42approach people with a sense of
59:44authority like flashing a badge and
59:46being in uniform which thank God he was
59:48never hired for any of those jobs
59:50because that is terrifying
59:52did you ever think about
59:55what it would be like for you if
59:58somebody entered your home and did
1:00:00something like that to your wife
1:00:04for sure doing everything possible to
1:00:07protect my my wife or my kids but I mean
1:00:09what if you found her dead murdered what
1:00:12would that have been like for you
1:00:14oh that would have been very upsetting
1:00:16it's like Revenge has come back on me
1:00:21when I asked him what would happen if he
1:00:23came home and found someone had murdered
1:00:25his wife there's no sense of outrage or
1:00:29or horror that somebody could have done
1:00:32this to his family it's it's more
1:00:36resignation oh well Karma
1:00:39instead of empathizing with his loved
1:00:42one suffering he's only able to see how
1:00:45their possible demise would affect him
1:00:48and guys I'm just gonna say not for
1:00:49nothing but going back to those
1:00:51parallels with Brian learning things
1:00:53from his education wanting to be in a
1:00:55position of authority a trusted position
1:00:57and taking bits and pieces from other
1:01:00serial killers BTK did that is that what
1:01:03Brian was doing as well and was one of
1:01:04those serial killers BTK was another
1:01:07person mass murderer Elliot Roger did he
1:01:10try to mess up the profile this story is
1:01:13dark disgusting and showcases the
1:01:16absolute bottom of the barrel scum of
1:01:18humanity Killers like BTK are a
1:01:21sombering reminder that there are
1:01:23literally Monsters Among Us which is
1:01:25terrifying there aren't really words for
1:01:27it I'd imagine this is very much like
1:01:29how the Moscow Idaho community was
1:01:31recently feeling in the wake of the
1:01:33recent quadruple homicide BTK was a
1:01:36church leader had a family yet
1:01:37simultaneously thought he was a monster
1:01:39but also someone who was a good person
1:01:41who did bad things all while killing 10
1:01:43people over three decades for his own
1:01:45depraved and heinous fantasies it is a
1:01:48mind warp I can't imagine how gaslit and
1:01:51Confused I'd feel if I were one of his
1:01:53children or his spouse and my heart
1:01:55truly goes out to them his daughter
1:01:57Carrie has done several interviews as
1:01:59well as well as writing that tell-all
1:02:01book I mentioned
1:02:02Karen Rawson was 26 years old on the day
1:02:05she learned her father was the
1:02:07cold-blooded killer known as BTK the man
1:02:10responsible for killing 10 people and
1:02:12terrorizing Wichita Kansas for decades
1:02:15what do you remember about that day
1:02:16there's a knock on my door and he said
1:02:18he was the FBI
1:02:19and then he says your dad has been
1:02:21arrested as BTK
1:02:24and I was like I think I'm gonna pass
1:02:26out how would you describe your
1:02:28childhood with your father I pretty much
1:02:30had the American dream you know like the
1:02:32three bedroom ranch with the big
1:02:34backyard and the Springer Spaniel dog
1:02:37and then
1:02:38um when I was four he built a massive
1:02:40tree house for my brother and I it was
1:02:43extremely out of the characteristic of
1:02:45my father to be physically abusive after
1:02:48the last killing in 1991 life went on
1:02:51for the Raider family Carrie going off
1:02:53to college and meeting her future
1:02:55husband
1:02:56he just seemed like another regular
1:02:58Wichita dad to me
1:03:00[Music]
1:03:052003 my dad walked me down
1:03:09ing
1:03:11BTK is arrested
1:03:14this man 59 year old Dennis radar is the
1:03:16BTK
1:03:17cadler and you were still at that point
1:03:19convinced that they had the wrong man I
1:03:21think reality was starting to creep in
1:03:24and I felt my stomach just twist
1:03:26realizing it could be true
1:03:29one minute you had a man in your life
1:03:31who you thought was a loving father the
1:03:34next minute he's a serial killer right I
1:03:37had to learn how to grieve the loss of
1:03:39somebody I loved very much that no one
1:03:42else loved anymore BTK was once one of
1:03:45the most terrifying serial killers in
1:03:47America in the 20th century luckily for
1:03:50society BTK will be in prison for the
1:03:52rest of his life in a small cell just
1:03:54given three meals and only allowed to do
1:03:56what the prison allows him to do which
1:03:58is pretty ironic since all of his crimes
1:04:00were about control and power and now he
1:04:02has zero power at all
1:04:05sometimes I wonder if with all the
1:04:06technology and resources that law
1:04:08enforcement has today if there will ever
1:04:10be serial killers like this again in the
1:04:12future I go back and forth on whether or
1:04:14not it's possible but I like to know
1:04:16what you guys think in the comments do
1:04:18you think modern science and technology
1:04:19will prevent serial predators in the
1:04:22future by catching them before they can
1:04:23go on a spree or do you think they will
1:04:25find another way to go undetected let me
1:04:28know below another thing I keep thinking
1:04:30about is how BTK modeled other serial
1:04:33killers like in a way he wanted to be
1:04:35like these so-called Legends in his mind
1:04:37or at least categorized as such and I
1:04:40don't think this phenomenon is solely
1:04:42specific to BTK
1:04:44scary to think that there are probably
1:04:45other people known in the world who look
1:04:47up to a guy like this maybe somebody
1:04:50like Brian coburger thanks so much for
1:04:52tuning in with me today guys I hope you
1:04:54appreciated the case coverage and I'm
1:04:56eager to know your thoughts below do you
1:04:58see any similarities or Parallels
1:05:00between BTK and Brian or do you think
1:05:03it's all a coincidence let me know
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