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0:00And I just noticed that when I start my
0:01day with God and I lay it all before
0:03him, it just becomes clear and I'm
0:06usually able to check off a lot of
0:07things because like you said, a lot of
0:09times you're like, I got to get this
0:10done today and God's like, but do you
0:12>> that's not important till next Tuesday.
0:14Let's cross that off. And I'm like,
0:16thank you.
0:17>> You know, because sometimes you're just
0:19trying to check all these boxes, not
0:22realizing, let me maneuver through this
0:24day a little differently so I can be
0:26present so that I can spend my time with
0:28God.
0:29>> And I just noticed that he really does
0:31guide and lead and show us how to
0:34maneuver through the day when we put him
0:36first and seek him first.
0:41Heat. Heat.
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1:24Hey ladies, welcome back to another
1:27episode of Girls Night In. I am so
1:30excited to have my girls back with me.
1:33Let me just introduce you to them. This
1:36is Tyena Nixon over here on the right.
1:38She's from Huntsville, Alabama. She is a
1:41mom, a wife, and she's also a health
1:44educator. Thank you for being with us,
1:46girl.
1:46>> Thank you.
1:48>> We also have Vera Clemens right here
1:50from Huntsville, Alabama. She's also a
1:53mom of four, a wife, and she's a lawyer.
1:56Thank you for being here.
1:58>> Thank you for having me. All right.
2:00Next, we have Yen Andrews.
2:02>> She is a medical practice administrator.
2:04She's a wife and a mom of three men. I
2:07should say young men. I didn't want to
2:09say boys
2:11>> cuz they're growing up on us.
2:13>> But so thankful to have you here to
2:15share your wisdom today. Good
2:16>> to be here.
2:17>> And last but not least, we have Dr.
2:19Quantrell Ard from Atlanta, Georgia.
2:22>> She's a grief coach. She's a speaker.
2:24She's a writer. And she's a mom of three
2:27and a wife. Yes.
2:29>> So glad to have my girls here again.
2:32>> Listen, we coming in hot tonight with
2:33this topic. Okay.
2:36>> We are talking about the Proverbs 31
2:39woman.
2:40>> Mythical
2:41>> or manageable.
2:43>> So, let's talk about it. But we can't
2:45really talk about it without actually
2:47just laying it out there again. Yes. So,
2:50just as a refresher, we're going to read
2:52the Proverbs 31 chapter for you and
2:56we're going to just soak it all in and
2:57then we're going to jump into the
2:58conversation.
2:59>> Let's do it. Tyena is going to read it
3:01for us.
3:02>> Okay. So, the part that uh discusses the
3:05Proverbs 31 woman as we've come to know
3:07her starts at verse 10. Okay. Who can
3:11find a virtuous and capable wife? She is
3:13more precious than rubies. Her husband
3:16can trust her and she will greatly
3:17enrich his life. She brings him good,
3:20not harm, all the days of her life. She
3:22finds wool and fla flax and busily spins
3:25it. She is like a merchant's ship
3:27bringing her food from afar. She gets up
3:29before dawn to prepare breakfast for her
3:31household and plans the day's work for
3:33her servant girls. She goes to inspect a
3:35field and buys it. With her earnings,
3:37she plants a vineyard. She is energetic
3:39and strong, a hard worker. She makes
3:42sure her dealings are profitable. Her
3:44lamps burn late into the night. Her
3:46hands are busy spinning thread, her
3:48fingers twisting fiber. She extends a
3:51helping hand to the poor and opens her
3:53arms to the needy. She has no fear of
3:55winter for her household, for everyone
3:57has warm clothes. She makes her own
4:00bedspreads. She dresses in fine linen
4:02and purple gowns. Her husband is well
4:04known at the city gates where he sits
4:07with the other civic leaders. She makes
4:09belted linen garments and sashes to sell
4:11to the merchants. She is clothed with
4:14strength and dignity, and she laughs
4:15without fear of the future. When she
4:18speaks, her words are wise, and she
4:20gives instructions with kindness. She
4:22carefully watches everything in her
4:23household and suffers nothing from
4:25laziness. Her children stand and bless
4:28her. Her husband praises her. There are
4:30many virtuous and capable women in the
4:32world, but you surpass them all. Charm
4:35is deceptive, and beauty does not last,
4:37but a woman who fears the Lord will be
4:39greatly praised. Reward her for all she
4:42has done. Let her deeds publicly declare
4:45her praise.
4:46>> Wow. Wow.
4:48>> Okay.
4:48>> This is a chapter we've heard a lot over
4:51the years and it holds different
4:53different emotions and feelings. But I
4:56want to throw out a question and just
4:57ask you all what's one thing that kind
4:59of stuck out to you as you just heard
5:02that read again. What's something that
5:04stuck out to you about this Proverbs 31
5:06woman and what how she's described? And
5:12when you hear the term Proverbs 31
5:14woman,
5:15>> what comes to mind?
5:19>> Oh boy. Oh wow. That's a loaded
5:21question.
5:22>> You look like you're ready to jump in.
5:24>> Well, there are two things that jump out
5:26at me. One, she fears the Lord. So, she
5:28knows that she's not doing this by
5:30herself.
5:30>> Amen. And two, and this may be a little
5:34controversial, she got female servants.
5:36So, she's not doing this by herself. She
5:38got some help. She got help. Um, and for
5:41a lot of us, some of us may be blessed
5:43to have that help.
5:45>> Others, we might be a onewoman show. My
5:47God. Um, so those were the main things
5:50because I actually read it recently and
5:53and and that's what I said. She fears
5:54the Lord. So, she knows that that is her
5:57strength. That is what allows her to do
5:59what she does. And then she also has
6:02help.
6:02>> Be it in the terms of female servants,
6:05be it in the terms of girlfriends, she
6:06has help.
6:08>> So those are the two main things that
6:09stuck out to me about that.
6:10>> You know, what I like about what you
6:12said is that she had God as her help and
6:14then she had like some physical earthly
6:17help.
6:18>> Yes. Absolutely.
6:19>> You need both. You need both.
6:21>> Yes. Absolutely.
6:22>> All right. Anyone else?
6:23>> Yeah. One thing that stood out um to me
6:26aside from her early morning
6:30So, I read I read the CEV version, and
6:34that one actually says that she she
6:36wakes up before the sun rises and makes
6:39breakfast for her family and her
6:41servants.
6:42>> And I stopped right there cuz I was
6:44like,
6:44>> "Wow,
6:45>> you have servants and you're feeding
6:46them." But that might be a character
6:48thing, right? Like she she takes care of
6:50those who work for her.
6:52>> Um, but the kindness, the her she is she
6:55is a woman of wisdom. um where she
6:58doesn't speak without thinking and it's
7:00I think it says that her advice is with
7:03thoughtfulness. So she just does not
7:05spit words out.
7:07>> She's she's appears calm to me that she
7:09thinks before things before saying or
7:12doing things. She's just kind of stable.
7:16>> Um and lastly is that um
7:20>> she doesn't worry.
7:21>> She's a planner. Yeah,
7:23>> that's good. Now, it's crazy how much
7:26she accomplishes and I don't keep my
7:28eyes on that. I'll just be honest on
7:30that.
7:31>> But I'm I am really impressed at how
7:34much she she's organized. And I think
7:36maybe that can also lend to the worries
7:40or the fears like she's not afraid of
7:42winter coming because she's planned.
7:43She's prepared. She's prepared her
7:45children and her family to make sure
7:46they have warm clothes.
7:49>> Wow.
7:50>> Come on. Proverbs 31:1 and learn us
7:52something.
7:56>> Well,
7:57she sounds lovely.
7:59>> She does.
7:59>> She is lovely.
8:00>> She She is lovely. God bless her.
8:03>> But it does feel a little unattainable.
8:05Like, does she have the same 24 hours in
8:07the day that I have
8:08>> because it says she's up before the sun
8:12>> and her lamps are burning late at night.
8:14>> Yeah. Yeah.
8:15>> How is she doing all this? You know, and
8:17I know and I'm so glad that you
8:18mentioned that she has help. Yes, that's
8:19something that I learned pretty recently
8:21and I was like, "This is making more
8:22sense."
8:23>> You know, that she has her servant
8:25girls. She treats them well and they
8:27likely treat her well, too. Right.
8:28They're they're giving as good as as she
8:31is treating them, right? But I also am
8:33like this woman cuz she's
8:35entrepreneurial.
8:36>> Yes, she is.
8:37>> Right. So, and then she's taking care of
8:38her husband. Her husband is well
8:40respected likely because she's doing
8:42such a great job of managing their
8:44family and presenting them in such a
8:45great way that everyone looks at him
8:47like he got it good. Yeah, she's doing
8:49what needs to be done. You know how they
8:51do.
8:52>> Um, and also that she's taking care of
8:54the home. So, I don't know. I want to be
8:57her. I just don't know if it's possible,
8:58>> right?
9:02>> You know, when I think of the Proverbs
9:0431 woman, unfortunately, I think of how
9:07she has been used to weaponize or to uh
9:11put a woman in her place. And I fear
9:15that uh when we have that as the
9:19underlying motivation,
9:21>> no woman wants to live up to that
9:23standard, especially if it's being
9:25weaponized against her.
9:26>> And so, how can we shift that narrative?
9:30And you know, I was thinking about this
9:31recently and I saw online that in some
9:36Jewish sects, in some Jewish um areas,
9:39uh they read the husband reads this over
9:43his wife as the sun sets on Sabbath as a
9:46blessing over his wife.
9:49>> And I was like, oh,
9:50>> okay, that's a completely different
9:52perspective than what I thought or what
9:55I've heard of the Proverbs 31 woman. So
9:58when it is seen as a blessing over you
10:01and not something to keep you in line or
10:04this unattainable standard, it becomes
10:06something you cherish and value.
10:09>> So I'm always thinking how can we shift
10:11the narrative to something that is, you
10:14know, helpful for us, not harmful.
10:17>> Right. Right.
10:18>> Right.
10:19>> Yeah. Absolutely. Um, as I was
10:21researching why this was written, one of
10:24the things I discovered is that King
10:25Solomon is known to write this as a
10:28mother's instruction to her son.
10:30>> Interesting.
10:31>> About the kind of woman he should seek
10:34as a wife.
10:35>> And so, I don't know that it's actually
10:38a description of an actual woman, but
10:41these are some of the qualities that you
10:43should look for.
10:45>> I don't know that all of this is
10:46attainable. Correct. for one woman,
10:49>> but it's an idealistic list of like some
10:52things that you should look for.
10:53>> That's good.
10:54>> And a wife.
10:55>> And so I like that. Um, one of the
10:57things that stuck out to me is that
10:59she's a blessing to her husband and that
11:02>> um, he is successful because of her and
11:05that she pushes him. She's supporting
11:08him. And I love that
11:10>> a wife is seen as more valuable than
11:12rubies.
11:13>> And we hear all the time, you know, we
11:14don't just find rubies.
11:16this is something of value and it's
11:19something to be sought and it's
11:20something that is valued, you know, and
11:23so I love that about the description
11:25that her good works not only bless her
11:28but it blesses her entire family.
11:31>> So, how does faith play into
11:35this Proverbs 31 woman?
11:38>> Cuz we read it.
11:40>> I believe it's in the Bible for a
11:41reason.
11:42>> And it's a list of list. Sometimes it's
11:45seen as a list of responsibilities and
11:46tasks,
11:48>> but I like what you said about, you
11:50know, she leans on the Lord. She knows
11:52where help comes from, but how has faith
11:54played a role in you all as you have
11:57>> strived to be the wife that honors God?
12:00>> Um, this Proverbs 31 woman, how has
12:02faith played a role in that? Cuz we all
12:04said it's not possible without God,
12:06right? Absolutely. So, what does that
12:08look like though for on a daily basis
12:09when you're looking at your to-do list
12:11and you're like,
12:12>> "So,
12:14this is not all going to get done,
12:16right?
12:16>> But what does that look like for you?
12:18How does faith play a role for you in
12:20balancing it all?
12:20>> I think um for me it's been
12:24believing that whatever has been placed
12:27before me was meant for me to do, which
12:29means that I have what it takes to do
12:31it.
12:31>> Absolutely. This year has been so
12:34challenging for me um with my son
12:37starting school and um I was trying to
12:40be more involved at his school and then
12:42I was asked petitioned repeatedly to
12:45take over um the PTA at his school and I
12:49was I initially said no and then it just
12:52kept coming up and then I had to have
12:54faith that maybe God had brought that
12:56opportunity forward for a reason. Um,
12:59but I had that I felt that weight of
13:01like, man, that's just one more thing to
13:04add to the to-do list, you know. Um, and
13:07so when I think about the Proverbs 31
13:09woman, she could look at it as like
13:12>> so many, she has so many different
13:14things to do, so many directions that
13:15she's pulled in, and so many people
13:17relying on her. That for me is like my
13:19big fear is that someone's relying on me
13:21and I'm not going to come through for
13:22them. That is like my I hate that
13:24feeling, right? Um, and so for me, it's
13:27a matter of believing that God brought
13:29these opportunities to me. God has
13:31placed me in certain positions because
13:33he knows that I'm capable with his help
13:35of handling it.
13:36>> Yeah, that's good.
13:37>> Amen.
13:38>> Um, that's really good.
13:39>> I would say this, um, one of the things
13:41that as I was reading it and thinking
13:43about it, this is not the day in the
13:45life of the Proverbs 31 woman,
13:46>> right?
13:47>> Meaning, this is not a Yeah.
13:49>> sprint that you get it all done in a
13:5124-hour day.
13:53>> This is a marathon. Mhm.
13:54>> Um, also in that faith, you have to have
13:57grace.
13:58>> And what I've realized is that as long
14:01as I put it before God and I do the
14:04things that God has asked me to do, you
14:07will be amazed by the time your day
14:09ends. Like I am not a energetic person
14:12by day.
14:13>> I have four children.
14:14>> Yeah.
14:15>> The Lord has when I tell you I am up at
14:194:30. So I am that woman that rises at
14:21night. I am up at 4:30. I work. I don't
14:24go to bed till 8:30 or 9:00. But it is
14:26amazing how many tasks can get done and
14:29it's all and people say how do you do
14:31it? It is all God. I don't know because
14:34I know physically Vera it's not me.
14:37>> It is all God. When I tell you I look
14:39back over the things I've accomplished
14:40in that day,
14:41>> but I start my day with prayer. I start
14:43my day with his word. And I'm like,
14:45Lord, the day is yours. Equip me with
14:47what I need to accomplish for today. So
14:50what I don't accomplish for today wasn't
14:52meant to be accomplished for today.
14:55>> Exactly.
14:55>> So that is that's how I give yourself
14:58grace in that faith.
15:00>> I like I love that faith and grace.
15:02>> Yeah. Yeah.
15:04>> I I chase after her character. I chase
15:07after those things. Um
15:10>> Vera, like what you were saying, I think
15:12days are unpredictable. Um and I'm also
15:15the believer of a to-do list really
15:17never gets completed. Yeah.
15:19>> Um that's why we carry it on to the next
15:21day and then happily cross it off when
15:23we when we finally get there. But I
15:25chase her her character, her
15:28>> um you know to her her husband praises
15:31her,
15:33>> you know, so she's affirmed. She's
15:35affirmed. Her her children adore her.
15:37She's getting some affirmation.
15:39>> Um but to be a a a compassionate woman
15:43who knows what her talents are, she
15:46knows what her gifts are. Um, but how
15:49she manages that I think speaks to her
15:51character. And so I asked God to just
15:54when I finally understood what this was
15:57all about, I asked God to really give me
15:59more of that character. Let me chase
16:01that.
16:01>> Beautiful.
16:02>> That is
16:03>> I mean I would say for me faith really
16:05helps me to seek God first as the
16:10creator and the you know arbiter of my
16:13day, right? Um, sometimes I place
16:16unrealistic expectations on myself. Yes.
16:18>> And you know, when you, like you said,
16:20you look down this list and it's like,
16:21oh, check, check, check, check, check.
16:23And I love a good to-do list.
16:25>> But I have to make sure that my
16:27priorities are in order. And so faith
16:29allows me to say, okay, God, what are
16:31the priorities for the day?
16:33>> And, you know, like Ver was saying, if
16:35it's not done that day, it's not meant
16:37to be done. And my response to that is,
16:40okay, God, thank you for helping me to
16:42get done what I can get done,
16:45>> and then help me to set my priorities
16:47for the next day. That way, I'm not
16:49constantly spinning my wheels. And, you
16:51know, there's this this book I read and
16:54it was talking about the the importance
16:56of understanding what is urgent
16:59>> versus what is important. Oh, wow. And
17:01all the time if you're letting these
17:03little tiny fires pop up, you never get
17:05the important things done because you're
17:07so busy trying to put out those fires
17:09for the urgent things. And so my faith
17:11is like, okay, what am I really trying
17:14to prioritize in this day? And if I get
17:16those things done,
17:17>> it's a win. A win is a win.
17:19>> That's right, man.
17:21>> For the W's.
17:23>> For the W.
17:24>> Um, for me, faith has I mean, it's
17:28everything. You said,
17:30>> um, I'm a firm believer in seek ye first
17:32the kingdom of God and all these things
17:34will be added and I just notice that
17:36when I start my day with God and I lay
17:38it all before him,
17:39>> it just becomes clear and I'm usually
17:42able to check off a lot of things cuz
17:44like you said, a lot of times you're
17:45like, I got to get this done today and
17:46God's like, but do you
17:48>> that's not important till next Tuesday.
17:50Let's cross that off. And I'm like,
17:52thank you. Thank you. you know, because
17:54sometimes you're just trying to check
17:56all these boxes, not realizing, let me
17:59maneuver through this day a little
18:00differently so I can be present so that
18:03I can spend my time with God.
18:05>> And I just noticed that he really does
18:07guide and lead and show us how to
18:09maneuver through the day when we put him
18:11first and seek him first.
18:14>> Um, one of the things I also noticed as
18:17it talks about her getting up early, and
18:19you mentioned this, Vera, that you wake
18:20up at 4:30.
18:21>> I do. And I wake up at 4:32 now. Bless
18:26it. Bless it. But I was not always a a
18:29morning person. But I feel like as we
18:32get older and as more things are put on
18:34our plate, we're having to get up early.
18:37>> Wake up earlier.
18:39>> And find this other Well, okay. Let me
18:43not say wake up early.
18:44>> I'm like,
18:46>> at what age does that happen to you?
18:48>> Cuz I'm still trying to get there. I'm
18:50still trying to get there, honey. No
18:52problem. I'm older than you.
18:53>> So, when does that happen? Exactly.
18:55>> Maybe it's Maybe it's just me trying to
18:56get some quiet time.
18:59>> That part
19:01is different for everyone.
19:02>> That's true.
19:02>> Cuz like you said in another episode,
19:05you go in the room in the evening and
19:07you're like, I need my my little moment.
19:10>> And so, maybe it's not always morning,
19:12>> but we find our little moment
19:14>> to just get ourselves together,
19:16decompress. And for me right now, I'm
19:19finding it's in the morning like because
19:21at night I'm knocked out
19:23>> because I'm so tired.
19:26I'm tired. I used to be up late at night
19:28doing all of these things and now I
19:30can't even hang.
19:31>> Yeah.
19:32>> But as long as you're finding that time
19:34>> to just decompress and get your your
19:36moment, right?
19:38>> So I think that's important. Mhm.
19:40>> Um, one other thing I also learned about
19:42the Proverbs 31 woman is that some
19:45believe that this was a description of
19:46an older woman
19:48>> who had was a little more seasoned in
19:51>> doing what she did.
19:53>> And I know a lot of times when we look
19:55back on our childhood and we ask, you
19:57know, her mom, how did you do it? And
19:59they're like,
19:59>> I understand that
20:00>> you missed out on some struggle years
20:03when you were running around as a
20:04toddler. And I know some of us can
20:06attest that, you know, there were some
20:09things that, you know, thank God for
20:10grace.
20:12>> Amen. Amen.
20:13>> Thinking about that, too, cuz I'm like,
20:15she doesn't have to drop anybody off at
20:17Carine. You know what I'm saying? You
20:19see what I'm saying?
20:20>> She didn't have to wait an hour for
20:21Carline.
20:23>> So, it's like we got to think about
20:24that, too. Like, dropped them off in
20:26>> Correct. Or she had a teacher at home
20:29teacher. She didn't have to take them
20:30anywhere. So it's like we also have to
20:32think about in context of our lives
20:34today, let's not set unrealistic
20:37standards for ourselves. I don't think
20:39that that's what God intended for us to
20:41do. Um or for other people to do to us
20:44using Proverbs 31, you know. Um and I I
20:47thought about something when you said
20:48it's written as a list cuz it does say a
20:51wife of noble character at the right in
20:53my version it said that at the as a
20:55heading. So I'm like, okay, yeah,
20:57Solomon is saying this is what a mom
21:00might say and say, this is what you look
21:02for, right?
21:03>> Um, there were several things that are
21:06obviously not dayto-day. It says she
21:09goes out to inspect a field and she buys
21:11it. She's not buying a field every day,
21:13right? So it just means I think if we
21:15look at it symbolically, it's like she's
21:17a woman who is meticulous. She's serious
21:20about what she does, where she makes her
21:22investments, whether it be time or money
21:23or whatever. So, I think we can all
21:26glean from that symbolically, I will be
21:28on top of of my my investments and where
21:31I'm placing my time and my money or
21:33whatever and not necessarily see it as I
21:36have to do all these things because I'm
21:37not I'm not sewing bed sheets. I'm not
21:40that's not for me. You see what I'm
21:41saying? So, we have to think about how
21:43does this actually apply to my life in
21:462025
21:47today.
21:48>> Yes. That was one of the questions was,
21:50you know, how do we bring this into the
21:53modern 2025 lifestyle. You know,
21:56>> life looks a little different now than
21:58it did when this was written. A lot
21:59different.
22:00>> Yes.
22:01>> And so, how do we bring this into 2025
22:04and actually, you know, embrace the
22:06qualities and the character
22:08>> but still, you know,
22:10>> keep it in context and I think you just
22:12gave us one key
22:14>> is that this is impossible to do all in
22:15one day every day.
22:18Are there any other takeaways that you
22:20pulled that you said, you know what, let
22:21me look at this in context and let me
22:23break this down to see how this applies
22:25to myself in 2025 and our listeners in
22:282025. So I broke it down. I remember
22:31when I read this, I literally went verse
22:33by verse. So I think verse 11 says that
22:37the version I read says that her
22:39husband's heart she her her husband
22:41trusts her with his heart. And I took
22:43that to mean if your husband cannot
22:46trust you with his heart, then that's a
22:47problem in your marriage.
22:48>> And I'm not I'm not here to cast
22:50dispersions on anybody. What I'm saying
22:52is that doesn't mean you and your
22:54husband going to see the eye every day.
22:55It doesn't mean there won't be
22:56disappointments. There won't there won't
22:58be issues, but at the end of the day,
23:00your husband needs to feel safe with
23:01you. Right?
23:02>> And I never forget, I read in this book,
23:04this pastor said, the Bible is very
23:06descriptive about most women. He said,
23:08but one thing he realized was that the
23:11Bible never describes Delilah. He said,
23:13"What the Bible points out is that
23:15Samson rested his head in her lap.
23:17>> She gave him peace."
23:19>> Oh, wow.
23:20>> And when I I was like, "Oh."
23:22>> And I have taken that into my marriage
23:24to say that my husband should feel safe
23:26at the end of the day. No matter what we
23:28got going on, juggling kids, juggling
23:30work,
23:31>> his heart should feel safe with me.
23:34>> And so I I'm like, that's doable. That's
23:36something as a woman you should
23:37subscribe to. Okay, she invests in a
23:39field and she buys it. That woman works.
23:41>> That's right.
23:41>> That woman works. So when we get to that
23:43verse, I'm like like think about women.
23:44We do this. Like that woman works.
23:47>> So when that woman says, "Hey, I prepare
23:48for the winter time and store up." Who
23:51is preparing for kids when it's we know
23:53it's going to be snow. So I got to make
23:54sure I'm at the grocery store. I got all
23:57my food stock. When we had that snow in
23:58Huntsville, honey, I was stocked up. I
24:00was like, we could be in the house
24:03to be We ain't got to leave. We are
24:05fully food. We got food. We got clothes.
24:07We got shelter. So I think if we look at
24:09it in context, we do a lot of these
24:12things. Like we really really do. Um her
24:15female servants, they may be if you're
24:18blessed to have na nannies and maids
24:20that or sometimes your girlfriends, hey
24:22Gian, I can't pick up the kids. Can I
24:24can I help? Can you help me? I'm running
24:26late. Do you mind grabbing the kids for
24:28me today? That is like if you look at
24:30our lives, godly women, we are attaining
24:34the things that she talks about. So I'm
24:36just like you got to look at it. Give
24:38yourself grace. You're doing it.
24:40>> All of us are doing wonderful things.
24:42>> That's good.
24:43>> That's it. That's it.
24:44>> I love it. I love that.
24:47>> You know, I'll I'll add that as a mom of
24:50boys and a girl,
24:53>> right? It's important that we don't just
24:55lean all of this information toward our
24:58daughters or ourselves, right? Like you
25:01said, this is instruction. Solomon is
25:03saying, his mother is teaching him, this
25:05is what you look for. So for me, I'm I'm
25:08I'm trying to share this information
25:11with both genders because baby, I want
25:14you to choose well, right? And then
25:16also, I want my daughter to know this is
25:19something you can do. It's not
25:21attainable. It's not this, you know,
25:23horrible scary thing where you're like,
25:24"Oh, if I don't make it, I'm not a good
25:26wife." No, these are qualities. These
25:29are character traits, right? That God
25:32can give to you as you grow. And so, I
25:35think it's important for both of our
25:37children to know that for our sons and
25:39our daughters. It's not just something
25:42we're giving to our daughters. So,
25:43that's what I I'm taking from that for
25:45modern day stuff.
25:47>> Yes.
25:47>> Amen.
25:48>> So, good. And you use the key word grow.
25:50>> Yes. You know, this isn't day one. We
25:53grow as individuals. We grow as wives.
25:57Our spouses grow as as husbands.
25:59>> This is a process.
26:02>> And it takes time. It's day by day. And
26:04we're learning. We're growing. But I
26:06like what you said. We're doing this. We
26:09are doing this.
26:12I feel better now.
26:16>> Look, I was looking a little nervous in
26:17the beginning. I feel good now. Baby
26:19now. I feel I feel encouraged.
26:21>> Exactly.
26:22>> When that when that chapter first got
26:24read, we were like, "My
26:25>> man,
26:26>> but then the Holy Spirit got on up in
26:30>> doing a good work."
26:32>> This Proverbs 31 conversation, I am so
26:36glad that we are having it. It is
26:38mythical or manageable. And I hope that
26:40you are taking notes and being able to
26:43engage with some of your girlfriends
26:45that are around you to be able to have
26:47this conversation. in November. We are
26:50so excited about our vision and dreamers
26:53conference coming up and we want you to
26:55attend. This is for visionaries and
26:58dreamers that want to make their dreams
27:01a reality. And we are going to have such
27:03an exciting weekend November 7th through
27:05the 9th. We have speakers like our own
27:07pastor Deblier Snell, Eric Thomas,
27:11Tabitha Brown, and John Maxwell. This is
27:14definitely an event that you don't want
27:17to miss. We want you to register on our
27:20website at breathoflife.tv
27:23and we want to make sure that you get
27:25your spots before they are all gone. But
27:27in the meantime, let's get back to girls
27:30night in. Can I share another thing that
27:33I just thought of? We're talking about
27:35bringing this to 2025, sharing it across
27:37across both genders.
27:39>> I think it says something about husbands
27:41as well.
27:42>> It does. Right. Towards the end, it's
27:44talking about how he praises her.
27:47>> He Let her deeds be praised, right? Let
27:50him He's in that town square and
27:52everybody thinks he's a great guy. It's
27:54important for him to be like, "And shout
27:55out to my wife."
27:57>> Yeah. I I can do my job well because my
27:59wife woke up early and cooked for us.
28:01Our clothes always look. You see what
28:02I'm saying? Those words of affirmation
28:04are important. So, I don't think it's
28:06just a message for us. I think it's a
28:08message for our husbands as well.
28:10>> That's right.
28:11>> Come on. Let her put some reward. Hello.
28:14Be rewarded. Come on. Push present. Come
28:16on.
28:17>> Hello.
28:17>> Wow. Oh, that's good.
28:20>> What's one quality that you are striving
28:23to develop?
28:25>> Um, I know you mentioned chasing after
28:27the character, which is really good. And
28:29I feel like it
28:31>> kind of relieves us a little bit.
28:33>> It relieved me.
28:34>> It's relieving.
28:35>> Yeah. So, when I first I I didn't grow
28:38up in the church, per se, right? And so
28:41the first time I ever read it, I was
28:43already well into my marriage and had
28:45children
28:46>> and I was in a marriage a couple's
28:49group. So the the married women were
28:51meeting and I read this and I was like,
28:52who is this?
28:55>> This is in the Bible. Like this is
28:57really in the Bible.
28:59>> And it it was it literally was a downer
29:02cuz I was like there there is absolutely
29:05no way. You know, that was just in the
29:06stage of being overwhelmed or whatnot.
29:09But reading it at different stages of
29:11your life, just reminding yourself, I
29:13think, is where God gives you the
29:15understanding and the wisdom. 2025, make
29:18it relative, is that
29:20>> no, no, no, no. I'm I'm not checking off
29:22a list. I'm really not. But there's this
29:25thing about her
29:27>> which I'm drawn to. And so, to answer
29:31your question, it is those things. And
29:32just to be wise with with my words and
29:35to be to think before I speak. And if
29:37I'm giving advice, I've prayed about it
29:40>> and I've thought about it, you know. So
29:42that's what I chase. I feel like
29:44everything else will fall into place
29:46even in how we rear our children and
29:48like you were speaking of how we treat
29:50our husband and how safe our husband
29:51feels. I feel like if you have
29:54>> you're striving for that even if you I
29:57don't want to say fall short, but let's
29:58say you didn't complete your tasks.
30:00>> Everyone around you feels good.
30:03>> Everyone is feeling good and safe and
30:06secure. That's a win to me.
30:08>> Yes.
30:08>> So, that's my chase.
30:10>> Wow.
30:10>> So, I I got to go back to this husband
30:13feeling safe.
30:14>> Yeah.
30:14>> What are the some of the things that you
30:16all do to make your husband feel safe?
30:20What does that look like?
30:22>> Oh,
30:23>> this I I saw on social media recently
30:26this woman, she gave the three T's. And
30:29I'm going be honest with you, I cannot
30:30remember the three T's. I remember the
30:32two. It was tone and timing. One of the
30:35things that she said that has resonated
30:37with me is that as soon as my husband
30:39comes in, I do not need to nag him about
30:42the things that he has done or not done,
30:43he forgot to do, or start saying,
30:46"You're late. We need to get the kids
30:47ready. Why are you doing this?" I need
30:48to give that man a minute.
30:50>> He has been dealing with the world. He's
30:52been fighting with whatever he's been
30:54dealing with at his job, and people have
30:56come at him.
30:57>> And so, I have taken that to heart. M.
31:00>> So now what I do is the moment he gets
31:02in, hey baby, how are you? I hug him, I
31:05kiss him, I let him just get in the door
31:09and just unwind and say, hey, I'm here.
31:13Hug me. Let me give you that love and
31:15affection because the world has beat you
31:18literally or figuratively, however you
31:20want to say it
31:21>> and this is a safe home. Your home is a
31:24safe place. So, that's one of the things
31:26that I've started literally just in the
31:28last couple of weeks, making sure that
31:30the moment he gets in, I'm not nagging
31:33him about something he forgot to do or
31:35something he didn't do or that he's late
31:37or he forgot to do this.
31:39>> Hey, baby, how was your day? How are
31:41you?
31:42>> I hug him. I kiss him. I let him know
31:44this is safe. Right.
31:46>> Right.
31:46>> That's good. And the Bible speaks to
31:48that thing.
31:49>> Touch,
31:49>> maybe. So, I can't remember what it is,
31:51but life's trying. I remember the two.
31:55tongue.
31:55>> Yeah, that's good. And I I I remember
31:57that Bible verse that says a man would
32:00rather live on the rooftops than in the
32:02house with a nagging wife. Mercy. Mercy.
32:06>> And so that's there for a reason.
32:08>> Yeah. No, it's there. And these are
32:10biblical things. So, thank you for
32:11sharing that.
32:12>> Anybody else have one that you can
32:15share?
32:15>> I think for me it's um I try I love
32:20words of affirmation personally, right?
32:21And my husband not as much. And so I
32:24think earlier in our marriage, I didn't
32:26necessarily give them to him as often,
32:28but especially after having a child, I
32:30realized how much my husband is
32:33contributing to um like lessen my load a
32:36lot of the times. And and a lot of it is
32:39like, yeah, that's his kid too, you
32:41know? So it's not like, you know what I
32:42mean?
32:43>> He's not doing me any favors. Like
32:45that's his kid as well. But it doesn't
32:47hurt to still say thank you for being
32:49there because not all husbands, not all
32:52fathers are doing that, you know, and
32:54it's just kind. It's just kind to say
32:57thank you when someone does something
32:58that you appreciate. And so that's
33:00something that I I'm trying to do more
33:02and more often is just say thank you.
33:04And in our household, my husband cooks
33:07>> and I know that's a huge blessing
33:09every time. And I was about to say
33:11that's the one I don't forget. I'll say
33:13it twice. I'll say it twice. I'll say
33:16thank you when he first gives it to me.
33:18I finish it and I'm like and thank you
33:19where he gives and God bless you and may
33:22all the works of your hands prosper, you
33:24know. So it's just thanking him for even
33:26just the everyday things that he does so
33:28that he knows that it's not taken for
33:30granted and I really value and
33:31appreciate, you know, even the little
33:33things.
33:34>> Yeah.
33:35>> I try to foster an environment for um
33:40him to feel vulnerable
33:42>> and um that's without judgment. That's
33:45when you make a mistake.
33:47>> Um, building building him back up.
33:50>> Um, letting him know that I don't expect
33:52him to be perfect.
33:54>> Oh, wow.
33:54>> And when he makes a bad decision, no,
33:57not a bad a decision that didn't go fa
34:00that's not favorable for the household,
34:02we we together sort of assume that that
34:07burden of of it not working out. Um, and
34:10I I hope that
34:14um
34:16well, and he does the same thing for me.
34:18So, it's not only, you know, it's not
34:20only one-sided, you know, it's always
34:23reciprocated. And so, that that that's
34:25something that I try to do.
34:27>> Yeah.
34:27>> Safe place. Yeah.
34:28>> Yeah.
34:28>> That's good. And I also think it's good
34:31sometimes to just ask
34:33>> what is it that you need to feel safe
34:36>> to feel loved and cared for and adored
34:40in this relationship in this home. What
34:42do you need? Am I missing something?
34:45>> Did I overlook something? So I think
34:47just asking is also a good way to just
34:49say you know what I am invested in your
34:53safety. I'm invested in your care.
34:56>> Yeah.
34:56>> Yeah.
34:57>> Because it changes.
34:58>> It does. It changes the needs of love
35:00language
35:00>> but not changes. And so you're right. We
35:03do need to ask that question.
35:05>> That's good.
35:05>> Not assume.
35:07>> And it also gives him a chance to
35:08reflect and think about it because
35:11>> I I can imagine that a lot of men don't.
35:14They're probably just moving through
35:15their day and doing, you know, and
35:16they're not necessarily thinking about
35:18what would make me feel safe right now,
35:20you know,
35:21>> but if you ask the question, then maybe
35:23he can take that time and be like, you
35:24know what, I am feeling kind of low
35:26right now and this would be helpful to
35:27me. So, I appreciate that. I'm going to
35:29take that.
35:30>> Yeah,
35:31>> I agree with you ladies. Um, one of the
35:33things that I try to do is definitely
35:35tone.
35:36>> Um, just minding that tone.
35:38>> And then also just
35:41>> making myself a safe space. He can share
35:43his secrets with me. He can share what
35:45he's struggling with. He can share his
35:47prayer requests.
35:48>> He can share his failures and know that
35:50I'm going to keep that close to my
35:51heart. That's right.
35:52>> I'm going to pray over him like nobody's
35:54business.
35:56And I'm going to make sure that nobody
35:58is aware of those weaknesses. I'm going
36:00to keep them close to my chest.
36:02>> Um I'm not going to share when we're um
36:06at odds or having a disagreement. Um we
36:09keep that in the house.
36:11>> And so right and just keeping that. So
36:13yeah, I just think there's so many ways
36:15and I'm so glad you brought that up
36:17>> because a lot of times again we focus on
36:20the the list and there are so many
36:23little nuances in there about how she
36:25treats her husband and how he views her.
36:28>> So let's talk just a little bit briefly
36:30about
36:30>> the mothering part of it.
36:32>> Um how does that play into 2025? How has
36:36faith played a role in your mothering
36:39and bringing this woman's character into
36:42your role as a mom?
36:46>> I think everything that we've read about
36:49this woman or the concept of this woman
36:51says that she's meticulous. She plans.
36:53She thinks ahead. And I think that's
36:55something that I've tried to do um for
36:57my my child is just think about right
37:01now cuz right now al often feels very
37:03urgent. You know, we got to get the
37:05homework done. we got to get, you know,
37:06whatever. But it's also, well, what is
37:08he going to need going into the next
37:10year or what is, you know, what's going
37:11to be happening in the next season? Um,
37:14I know with my son, he's just very, very
37:16energetic. All of the energy all boy,
37:20right? And so, I've just been thinking
37:22about, okay, yes, he is driving me crazy
37:24a little bit, jumping off all of my
37:25furniture and things like that, but what
37:27is it that he's needing, you know, in
37:29this in this moment? And so, I've been
37:31planning ahead. Okay, we need to start
37:33putting aside money so we can put him
37:34maybe into a tumbling class or some sort
37:37of obstacle course class so that we can
37:39channel that energy and it will help him
37:41learn discipline and you know things
37:43like that. So just planning ahead and
37:45thinking about what will my child what
37:47my child needs now but also what will he
37:49need in the season that is coming up for
37:51him.
37:52>> Wow, that foresight and planning that's
37:54definitely a huge takeaway from how this
37:57woman moved. Um, and I think it's it's
38:00just something that kind of comes to you
38:02as you get into this mothering groove.
38:04You're like, "Okay, I've been caught off
38:06guard enough.
38:07>> Let me write down the school calendar.
38:10Let me set off all the alarms so I don't
38:13miss anything." It's almost like you're
38:14forced into being organized.
38:17>> Some of us are not naturally planners
38:20and organizers. We like to wing it and
38:22just go by the and that doesn't work.
38:25>> Not always does not work long term. the
38:28more involved your kids get and they're
38:30signing up for all these things. So,
38:31it's definitely
38:32>> rei it um requires us to rely on God and
38:36lean into those gifts and the character
38:38that he exhibits.
38:39>> Um does anyone else have anything that
38:41you've taken away from her that you've
38:43brought into your mothering?
38:45>> Oo. Um for me, I think of what is taught
38:49can be caught.
38:50>> Okay. And much of what we see in this
38:54passage of scripture is something that
38:56can be observable behavior. Wow. Right?
38:59So, as I observe my mother walking
39:02through the house doing these things, I
39:04am now making mental notes, I'm learning
39:08how to do this. When I become this wife,
39:12this woman. And, you know, I think of
39:14again my sons and my daughters, right?
39:17I'm I'm trying to show them lead by
39:19example. You know, I don't always have
39:22to say this, this, and this, but I can
39:25show this, right? So again, even the
39:28Bible says, "By beholding, we become
39:29changed." As you watch, as you observe,
39:32then you take those things, tuck them
39:34into your little heart pocket, and you
39:36can say, "Oh, I have something to draw
39:38from when I get to this stage." So
39:41that's what I take from that. And we
39:43know that often times when you're trying
39:45to affect change or behavior, modeling
39:48is more important than just speaking
39:50about something. So, and we know this
39:52like you have little kids, you're like,
39:54"When did you pick that up? They heard
39:56us or they saw us or you know, even when
39:58we weren't talking directly to them or,
40:00you know, doing something for them, they
40:02are picking up on the things that we're
40:03doing." So, modeling is probably, you
40:05know, such a huge thing that the
40:07Proverbs 31 woman would have done and
40:10why her children are also praising her.
40:11It does say that her children praise
40:13her, you know, so they see it, too.
40:15>> Yeah.
40:16>> One of the things I wanted to Did we
40:18>> Oh, no. Go ahead.
40:19>> Okay.
40:20>> One of the things I wanted to ask as we
40:22get ready to wrap up is to give a woman
40:25out there a hack
40:27>> that has helped you manage
40:31balance
40:32>> and figure things out from day to day.
40:34>> Maybe it's something that you observed.
40:37Maybe it's something that a woman told
40:38you that has helped transform your
40:42perspective on this that has really
40:43helped you.
40:44>> But what's one little hack or piece of
40:46advice that you can give to a woman that
40:48may be watching?
40:50>> She's in the trenches. She's feeling a
40:51little overwhelmed
40:53>> by comparison, by feeling like she's not
40:56measuring up. And I feel like we've all
40:57been there.
40:59>> Um, what would you say to that woman,
41:01whether it's a piece of advice or a
41:02little hack that has helped you?
41:06Mine would come from my own mother.
41:09>> Um, I remember this very vividly from
41:12childhood. On Sunday, she would start
41:16thinking about and pulling together the
41:18clothes we would wear the next Sabbath.
41:20Wow.
41:20>> Cuz she was Yeah.
41:22>> For the week,
41:22>> for Sabbath for Monday,
41:25>> because she was she she took Sabbath
41:27very seriously. And my mom dresses,
41:29okay? She's serious about her clothes,
41:31her kids clothes. and she got that
41:33Proverbs 31 thing down when it comes to
41:36the way that her family, she's not
41:38sewing, but she shops the sales, okay?
41:41She launderers her stuff. She's serious
41:43about the way that you present yourself
41:45in the world. And because she was
41:47Sabbath school superintendent, Sabbath
41:48school teacher. She my my father did.
41:50They were doing all kinds of ministry
41:52and stuff. She was like, I'm going to
41:53get this done so that I don't get caught
41:56unawares Sabbath morning worrying about
41:58I can't find her stockings or like
42:00whatever. Um, and so that's something
42:01that I've been trying to implement. I'm
42:03not there, but I'm trying to implement.
42:06Um, you know, just preparing ahead. And
42:08I've noticed that it does work for me.
42:09If I set my gym clothes out on the night
42:12before, I'm more likely to get up, put
42:14it on, and do the workout. You know, if
42:17I put his clothes together on the night
42:18before, I don't have to scramble in the
42:20morning thinking about what he's going
42:21to wear. So, just that I think it's
42:24>> we talk it's cliche, but it it really
42:26does work.
42:27>> Yeah.
42:27>> Yeah.
42:28>> That's good. One of the things for me
42:30is, and this may be a little bit
42:32different, learn to say no.
42:34>> Oh,
42:34>> come on. No, ministry.
42:36>> Like,
42:36>> we as women are somehow, I don't know if
42:39we're taught or we feel like we all got
42:41to do it all or we have to say yes, yes,
42:42yes, yes, yes.
42:44>> Learn to say no. I don't have the
42:47bandwidth for this.
42:48>> Like, that is one of the things I am
42:51getting to. And having four children
42:53will teach you, no,
42:55>> I I don't have the bandwidth for that.
42:57Um, and even with your own children,
42:58like you know, I've got an athletic
43:00daughter who wants to do this, this is
43:02there are this many hours in the day.
43:04This is how much money I got.
43:06>> No.
43:08Pick one. Like, and so I'm learning to
43:11to be okay. Cuz when I used to say no,
43:13it would hurt. And I would go to my
43:15husband, I'm like, she wants to do this
43:16or or I really want to help and I can't.
43:18And he was like,
43:20>> you can't. You just said the words. You
43:23can't. So why are you feeling guilty?
43:26because you can't. You didn't say no
43:28because you didn't want to. You didn't
43:30say no because you had the resources and
43:32you wanted to do something else with it.
43:34You said no because you couldn't.
43:37>> So why do you feel guilty? And I take
43:40that. So I have learned to say no.
43:42>> So that is my
43:44>> like take some stuff off your to-do
43:47plate cuz a lot of it is probably
43:49self-inflicted unfortunately.
43:51>> And your kids will be okay.
43:53>> They will.
43:53>> They will really be okay. They are
43:55clothed, fed, and sheltered. They will
43:57be okay.
43:58>> That's right.
43:59>> Yeah,
43:59>> that's good.
44:01>> Um, my advice would be the first thing
44:04is to put your blinders on,
44:06>> right? So,
44:07>> let's go ahead and silence all the
44:09noise.
44:10>> Um, and that could be as close as family
44:12members or it could even at times be
44:15>> parents or in-laws or whatnot. So, just
44:16silence it. Put your blinders on.
44:19>> Um, and take the time to know who you
44:22are,
44:23>> right? Um, I I believe I'm not a
44:27therapist, but I believe that we parent
44:30out of how we were parented. So, the
44:32good and the bad,
44:33>> whatot, right? And so, if you don't
44:35spend that time getting to know who you
44:37are and why you do certain things or why
44:40you avoid certain things or why you're
44:43intimidated by certain things that are
44:46influencing you and becoming
44:48>> who God really wants you to be, right?
44:51And so whether it's therapy, whe whether
44:53it's self-help um books, whether it's a
44:56small women's group, whatever it is,
44:58spend time getting to know who you are
45:02>> and then approach this great this great
45:05thing that's waiting for you, right?
45:07>> Amen. Beautiful.
45:08>> So
45:09>> very quickly, I think mine is just to be
45:11accountable with your time. Mhm.
45:13>> Um, you know, one of the things I had to
45:15do for myself was to create boundaries
45:17around my time.
45:18>> And that could help me to say yes or to
45:20say no. But when I wasn't accountable
45:22for my time, I was finding that I was
45:24being run over by everything.
45:26>> So, I have to literally have a planner
45:29where I block off time. And if I want to
45:32have devotion, if I want to have me
45:34time, I have to put it on a calendar
45:36because it keeps me accountable and it
45:39tells everybody else that I have drawn
45:41boundaries around my time. Amen.
45:43>> So, I like that
45:44>> mom hack right there.
45:45>> Mhm.
45:46>> Man, y'all drop some wisdom. I believe I
45:48believe we got some Proverbs 31 women
45:51coming right on up on this panel.
45:53>> Yes.
45:53>> Hallelujah. I feel I feel all right.
45:56>> I feel like it's going to be all right.
45:58It's going to be all right.
45:59>> He's He's getting us there.
46:00>> Yeah. and he sees where we are. He knows
46:03the gifts that we possess and he is
46:05doing something in our lives just like
46:07he did for this woman.
46:09>> Yep.
46:09>> Thank you all for joining us for this
46:11amazing conversation. I hope you too
46:14feel lighter.
46:16>> Listen, there's a gift in community.
46:18There's something beautiful about
46:19sitting down with your girlfriends,
46:21sharing, and knowing it's going to be
46:23all right. We got each other's back. We
46:26going to help each other and pray each
46:27other through. I hope you felt that
46:29tonight. I hope you're able to get with
46:32your community and with your girls soon
46:34and talk about all the things. We can't
46:36wait to see you again at girls night in.
46:39Good night.
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