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The Sacred Sermon: Hermes & The Ahlul Bayt - الخطاب المقدس: هرمس وآل البيت — Transcript

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  1. 0:01[music]
  2. 0:07[music]
  3. 0:11All the
  4. 0:16alhamdulillah.
  5. 0:31Thank you for joining me tonight and we
  6. 0:34will continue inshallah as we've been
  7. 0:37speaking about in the last couple of
  8. 0:39episodes or the last couple of meetings
  9. 0:41that we've had. We've been delving into
  10. 0:44the writings of a particular character
  11. 0:46that was central uh for many different
  12. 0:49religions and we're speaking about the
  13. 0:51character that is known as Hermes Tris
  14. 0:54Majestice. He was a character that was
  15. 0:57central for the ancient Greek religion,
  16. 0:59ancient Roman religion, ancient Egyptian
  17. 1:02religion and also for Judaism,
  18. 1:04Christianity and Islam as we have
  19. 1:07demonstrated. We are going to go over
  20. 1:09tonight the third discourse of his in
  21. 1:14the Corpus Hermetica and that is the
  22. 1:17sacred sermon. That's the title that it
  23. 1:19was given.
  24. 1:22It's a short discourse but we have a lot
  25. 1:25of commentary actually on it tonight.
  26. 1:27And so it starts off by saying the glory
  27. 1:30of all things is God, Godhead and divine
  28. 1:34nature. God is the source of all that
  29. 1:39exists at once. Mind and nature. Yes,
  30. 1:44even matter. The wisdom that reveals all
  31. 1:47things. Godhead too is the source of
  32. 1:51nature, energy, necessity, the goal and
  33. 1:55the power of renewal. Boundless darkness
  34. 2:00lay in the abyss. and there was water
  35. 2:03and a subtle intelligent breath. By
  36. 2:06God's power, these were held in chaos.
  37. 2:10Then holy light arose and beneath the
  38. 2:14dry expanse, which literally translates
  39. 2:17as sand, the elements gathered from the
  40. 2:20moist essence, and all the gods drew out
  41. 2:24their proper portions from fertile
  42. 2:27nature. So this is the epitome of
  43. 2:31monotheism as we can see in the
  44. 2:33beginning of this sermon where Hermes is
  45. 2:36making it a point once again and as he
  46. 2:38did in the previous two discourses to
  47. 2:42emphasize the fact that there is this
  48. 2:45father this godhead that is the source
  49. 2:48of all creation and that nothing is like
  50. 2:52him and he cannot be described and we
  51. 2:54compared it previously to Imam Ahmed
  52. 2:57Hassan Alisam. times uh book of
  53. 2:59monotheism and his description of the
  54. 3:01Hoa or God before he manifested himself
  55. 3:04and made himself known as the divine
  56. 3:07essence. And then we get to the bottom
  57. 3:10of this first verse and we notice that
  58. 3:13it talks about these gods that are
  59. 3:16drawing out their proper portions from
  60. 3:18fertile nature. And these gods that it's
  61. 3:21referring to, it's talking about the
  62. 3:23seven planetary bodies as we
  63. 3:26demonstrated previously. And that those
  64. 3:28are what? The sun, the moon, Mercury,
  65. 3:32Venus, Mars, Jupiter, and Saturn, which
  66. 3:37were essentially the planets or the
  67. 3:40planetary bodies that were visible and
  68. 3:43very well known to the ancient world.
  69. 3:46They are being described as gods and
  70. 3:49they are partaking in this scene in
  71. 3:52which Hermes is describing the beginning
  72. 3:54of creation.
  73. 3:58While all things were still undefined
  74. 4:01and unworked, the light things were set
  75. 4:04a loft, the heavy things grounded
  76. 4:07beneath the moist part of the dry
  77. 4:09expanse. The universal things were
  78. 4:12bounded by fire and suspended in breath
  79. 4:16to hold them up. Heaven appeared in
  80. 4:20seven circles. So now he's describing
  81. 4:22the creation of the seven heavens. He's
  82. 4:26saying that it was formed as seven. They
  83. 4:28were seven layers or seven circles or
  84. 4:32seven zones or seven orbits. Its gods
  85. 4:36were seen as stars with their signs. And
  86. 4:39so here we see very clearly that each
  87. 4:42one of these heavens, each one of these
  88. 4:44zones actually has a god over it or a
  89. 4:48king, a guardian, one of its rulers.
  90. 4:51Right? So you have a zone and here's an
  91. 4:54alchemical drawing here which
  92. 4:55demonstrates it perfectly. You have what
  93. 4:58first they said that the closest heaven
  94. 5:01or the first one the lowest one to the
  95. 5:03earth that zone was the moon zone.
  96. 5:07Then you have above it Mercury and then
  97. 5:10you have Venus. And they basically um
  98. 5:14they concluded this on the basis they
  99. 5:17saw which one would eclipse which and
  100. 5:20they were able to tell which one was
  101. 5:22closer. So uh Mercury for example does
  102. 5:25not eclipse the moon but it does eclipse
  103. 5:27the sun. So they found its location
  104. 5:29there. The fourth heaven is guard is
  105. 5:33basically controlled or or uh its
  106. 5:36guardian is the sun and then you have
  107. 5:38after that Mars, Jupiter and Saturn.
  108. 5:44So heaven appeared in seven circles. Its
  109. 5:46gods were seen as stars with their signs
  110. 5:48and nature shaped her members in harmony
  111. 5:52with the gods within her. The outer rim
  112. 5:55of heaven revolved in its cycle carried
  113. 5:59by the breath of God. And so here you
  114. 6:03see God forming creation, bringing to
  115. 6:07life creatures, but also with the
  116. 6:10collaboration of these seven gods.
  117. 6:14Each God by his own proper power brought
  118. 6:19forth what was appointed to him. Thus
  119. 6:22came four-footed beasts, creeping
  120. 6:25things, the creatures of the waters, the
  121. 6:28winged things, and everything that bears
  122. 6:31seed, grass, and every flower shoot.
  123. 6:35Each having within itself the seed of
  124. 6:38becoming again. They set apart the
  125. 6:41births of men, some for the knowledge of
  126. 6:44God's works and for witness to nature's
  127. 6:47energy. the many for lordship over all
  128. 6:51beneath the sky and knowledge of its
  129. 6:53blessings so that they might increase
  130. 6:56and multiply and every soul embodied by
  131. 6:59the revolution of the cyclic gods for
  132. 7:02beholding the marvels of heaven and the
  133. 7:05courses of heaven's gods and for the
  134. 7:08works of God and the power of nature for
  135. 7:11signs of its blessings for knowledge of
  136. 7:14God's power so they might know the fates
  137. 7:17that follow good and evil and learn the
  138. 7:19skilled work of all good arts.
  139. 7:23There's a lot that's packed into this. A
  140. 7:26lot. And essentially what Hermes is
  141. 7:29saying is that there are all types of
  142. 7:32creatures.
  143. 7:33The creatures were imbued with
  144. 7:37particular properties from the different
  145. 7:40planets and stars that were ruling these
  146. 7:44seven heavens. Depending on which one of
  147. 7:47these planetary bodies influenced the
  148. 7:50creature more, it became in that way,
  149. 7:54that shape, that form or had that
  150. 7:56temperament. But unlike the creatures
  151. 8:00that were in the sea or those that flew
  152. 8:02in the air or those that creepeth on the
  153. 8:05land, there was a special creature that
  154. 8:08was made and that was man. They set
  155. 8:11apart the birth of men. He was a special
  156. 8:14one. They created them in a special way
  157. 8:18other than the way that they created the
  158. 8:20rest. And the reason was is because man,
  159. 8:24some of them were made for knowledge of
  160. 8:28God's work and for witness to nature's
  161. 8:31energy. Some of them were imbued with
  162. 8:36properties, powers, abilities from these
  163. 8:39planetary bodies that they could reflect
  164. 8:42over God's secrets that they may wonder
  165. 8:46into the heavens, marvel over the
  166. 8:49courses of the heavens bodies and
  167. 8:51actually be able to know God's power and
  168. 8:56read the fates of man, be able to tell
  169. 8:59the future. This was God's intention
  170. 9:02when he created. He created man in order
  171. 9:06that his intellect grows so much so that
  172. 9:09he has complete awareness, control,
  173. 9:12consciousness over what is to take
  174. 9:14place. He was supposed to read his
  175. 9:16existence and the course of human
  176. 9:20history, right? Knowing fully what will
  177. 9:23happen by reading it into the stars.
  178. 9:27And here we have an amazing alchemical
  179. 9:30drawing of each and every one of the
  180. 9:33planetary bodies influencing or
  181. 9:36partaking in the creation of man by
  182. 9:39casting light upon it.
  183. 9:44Thus their living begins and their
  184. 9:46growing wise according to the fate
  185. 9:49appointed by the revolutions of the
  186. 9:51cyclic gods and their dying to this same
  187. 9:54end. And so fate, how much money they
  188. 9:58were going to make during their life,
  189. 10:00how much courage they would have, how
  190. 10:03how many children they would have, how
  191. 10:05long of a lifespan they would have, how
  192. 10:08bright or attractive their personality
  193. 10:10would be, how many wives would they be
  194. 10:13or how many sexual partners would they
  195. 10:15have. All of that was determined by the
  196. 10:19planetary bodies. And that's why they
  197. 10:21were known as written previously in
  198. 10:24Hermes writings as fate. They're known
  199. 10:26collectively as fate. Mighty memorials
  200. 10:29of their handiwork will lie upon the
  201. 10:32earth, though fading when the cycles
  202. 10:34renew. For every embodied birth, every
  203. 10:38seeded fruit, and every handiwork,
  204. 10:41though it decay, must of necessity renew
  205. 10:44itself by the God's renewing power and
  206. 10:48by the turning of nature's rhythmic
  207. 10:49wheel. For while Godhead is nature's
  208. 10:53ever renewing of the cosmic mixture,
  209. 10:56nature herself stands co-established
  210. 10:59within that godhead.
  211. 11:01So to give you an explanation that or
  212. 11:05give you an example that might help you
  213. 11:08understand how the ancients viewed the
  214. 11:12imprint of the planets upon mankind. It
  215. 11:14was they saw it very much in the same
  216. 11:16way as we see DNA today. So, you have
  217. 11:20DNA and DNA gives you special qualities,
  218. 11:23certain traits. Um, it gives you maybe
  219. 11:26you're a good basketball player, more
  220. 11:28prone to be athletic, right? You're
  221. 11:31taller. Um, or you're stronger or you're
  222. 11:35wiser or your eyesight is better. These
  223. 11:38things are given to you before you're
  224. 11:41created in your DNA. They saw the
  225. 11:44planets as having the same type of
  226. 11:46effect on us in our life.
  227. 11:51So that's the end of the sacred sermon.
  228. 11:54Now, what does the Quran say about the
  229. 11:56heavenly bodies?
  230. 11:59Here are some Arabic verses from the
  231. 12:02Quran.
  232. 12:04And here's the translation for it. One
  233. 12:06verse says, "He is the one who made the
  234. 12:09stars for you so that you may be guided
  235. 12:12by them amidst to the darknesses of land
  236. 12:15and sea."
  237. 12:17So in the apparent maybe you look at it
  238. 12:19you're like okay when I'm sailing on the
  239. 12:20ship God's telling me look up at the
  240. 12:22stars and you'll know where you're at.
  241. 12:24Or you could see kind of a deeper
  242. 12:26parallel there. The same type of
  243. 12:28parallel that was mentioned in the
  244. 12:31corpus hermeticum in the sermon where
  245. 12:35God had intended that man marvel after
  246. 12:39beholding at the heavens and be able to
  247. 12:41extract from there information.
  248. 12:45And he placed way marks and by the star
  249. 12:49they are guided. Another verse. So no, I
  250. 12:53swear. God is swearing and when he
  251. 12:55swears that's a great thing and that
  252. 12:58which he swears by is also a great
  253. 13:00thing. I swear by the positions of the
  254. 13:03stars and indeed it is surely a
  255. 13:07tremendous oath. If only you knew.
  256. 13:11Another verse of the Quran is speaking
  257. 13:12about Abraham.
  258. 13:14He cast a glance at the stars and said,
  259. 13:17"I am ill." And this is one of the most
  260. 13:20fascinating verses pertaining to stars
  261. 13:23in the Quran. Because we can clearly see
  262. 13:26Abraham looking at the stars and being
  263. 13:29able to tell his condition by looking at
  264. 13:32the stars. He was able to tell that he
  265. 13:34is ill or he's going to become ill. He
  266. 13:37saw something in the stars that was not
  267. 13:39to his fortune.
  268. 13:41Indeed, we have adorned the lowest
  269. 13:44heaven with an adornment, the stars, and
  270. 13:47as a guard against every rebellious
  271. 13:49devil. They cannot easedrop on the
  272. 13:52highest assembly. They are pelted from
  273. 13:54every side, driven away, and for them is
  274. 13:58a relentless punishment except one who
  275. 14:00snatches a fragment and then a piercing
  276. 14:03flame pursues him. So, obviously,
  277. 14:05there's all types of things that are
  278. 14:06going on in the heavens. Here you see a
  279. 14:10verse in which literally God is saying
  280. 14:13that the fortunes are existing in the
  281. 14:16heaven and in the stars and that the
  282. 14:18devils or the jin are traveling up in
  283. 14:21order that they may steal information
  284. 14:24about the future. And this is something
  285. 14:26that all Muslims agree upon.
  286. 14:29Astrology and the prophets. What about
  287. 14:32the narrations? What did Muhammad and
  288. 14:34the family of Muhammad Ali wasam
  289. 14:38state about the prophets and the
  290. 14:39messengers?
  291. 14:42Islamic history books and Quranic
  292. 14:44interpretation books repeatedly, man,
  293. 14:46you can look these up yourselves.
  294. 14:48There's so many that I'm not going to
  295. 14:49list every single hadith. Islamic
  296. 14:51history books and Quranic interpretation
  297. 14:53books repeatedly state that God taught
  298. 14:56Adam knowledge of many things including
  299. 15:00knowledge of the stars and medicine.
  300. 15:04Islamic history books and Quranic
  301. 15:06interpretation books repeatedly identify
  302. 15:09Idris as Hermes, a primordial sage. He
  303. 15:14was called Adris because it comes from
  304. 15:16Dasa, right? because of his many studies
  305. 15:19because deris means study. He was the
  306. 15:23first to write with a pen, the first to
  307. 15:25sew garments, and the first to examine
  308. 15:28the science of the stars and
  309. 15:30calculation. This is literally written
  310. 15:32in there in so many books. Whether
  311. 15:34you're talking about the history of the
  312. 15:36prophets and messengers written by Sunni
  313. 15:38scholars or Shia scholars,
  314. 15:42Islamic history books and Quranic
  315. 15:44interpretation books contain stories
  316. 15:46that Abraham's father Azar, an
  317. 15:50astrologer of Nimrod, actually foresaw
  318. 15:53by the stars the birth of a child who
  319. 15:56would end their religion and the rule of
  320. 15:58Nimrod. They also contain narrations of
  321. 16:01Abraham looking into the stars to find
  322. 16:03out that he was sick or other narrations
  323. 16:06where he's observing Venus, the moon and
  324. 16:09the sun and declaring that he does not
  325. 16:11love those that set meaning he doesn't
  326. 16:14worship those without Allah subhana
  327. 16:17tala.
  328. 16:20Islamic history books and Quranic
  329. 16:21interpretation books contain stories
  330. 16:24also that pharaoh lanali
  331. 16:28had a dream and the astrologers
  332. 16:31interpret it interpret the dream by
  333. 16:34looking into the stars and stated that a
  334. 16:36boy would be born meaning Moses amongst
  335. 16:39the Israelites who would end his rule
  336. 16:42which led to the killing of male
  337. 16:44infants. So what we're seeing here is
  338. 16:47that we're seeing that the history of
  339. 16:50Judaism, Christianity, and Islam is
  340. 16:52affirming that this science existed and
  341. 16:54it existed from the very beginning of
  342. 16:56mankind and that the believers and the
  343. 16:59non-believers alike relied on it. And
  344. 17:02the hadiths are not saying that it was
  345. 17:04false information. Rather, you see
  346. 17:06clearly that it was true information.
  347. 17:09and Pharaoh really did have a dream and
  348. 17:11the interpretation was correct and that
  349. 17:14there was going to be a savior that was
  350. 17:16born.
  351. 17:18Islamic history books contain stories
  352. 17:20that a queen once went to war against
  353. 17:22Joshua the son of noon and only sent to
  354. 17:26battle soldiers whom she knew their time
  355. 17:28of death hadn't come by relying on the
  356. 17:31astrologers. And this is in reference to
  357. 17:33this narration where Joshua is an enemy
  358. 17:36and this woman, she she has a lot of
  359. 17:38astrologers with her. She's a queen. She
  360. 17:40wants to fight him. He's fighting
  361. 17:42against them. He's losing soldiers.
  362. 17:44Nobody ever dies from her army. So he's
  363. 17:46like, "What is going on here?" So he
  364. 17:49seeks the guidance of Allah subhana wa
  365. 17:51tala who reveals to him that this woman,
  366. 17:54she's looking in the stars and she's
  367. 17:56seeing all of the people that their
  368. 17:58death is approaching. she keeps them
  369. 18:00behind and she sends the people that she
  370. 18:02knows has extended lifespans. Right? So
  371. 18:05that's how she was kind of giving off
  372. 18:08this impression that she has this
  373. 18:10flawless infallible army with immortal
  374. 18:12men. Hence Joshua prayed to God to
  375. 18:16freeze the rise of the sun or return it
  376. 18:19in order to confuse her calculations. So
  377. 18:22that's how this story is explained.
  378. 18:28Jewish narration books also contain
  379. 18:30stories that Sulman Alisam requested
  380. 18:34from Pharaoh, his neighbor, helpers to
  381. 18:37help him build the temple. And that
  382. 18:39Pharaoh didn't like him. He had envy
  383. 18:42against him. He attempted to trick or
  384. 18:44deceive Solomon by sending him workers
  385. 18:47whose time of death had approached. He
  386. 18:50knew this by looking into the stars. So,
  387. 18:51it's a similar story, right? Where he
  388. 18:54wants to build the temple of Solomon. He
  389. 18:56asks neighbors to help him send over
  390. 18:58workers. Pharaoh's like, "Yeah, you can
  391. 19:00take these people. Once they would
  392. 19:01arrive in Israel, they would all fall
  393. 19:03dead." You know, so it would be like an
  394. 19:05act of disrespect. How did Pharaoh know
  395. 19:08this? By the stars.
  396. 19:11The Bible, Islamic history books, and
  397. 19:14Quranic interpretation books contain
  398. 19:16stories that wise men, astrologers,
  399. 19:20followed a rising star to Jesus's
  400. 19:24birthplace. and they brought forward
  401. 19:26gold, mr, frankincense and each of them
  402. 19:29is explained symbolically.
  403. 19:32Islamic history books and Quranic
  404. 19:34interpretation books also contain
  405. 19:36stories that Heraclus
  406. 19:38and others discern signs of Muhammad's
  407. 19:41mission. They found out that Muhammad
  408. 19:42was born, that he's coming to accomplish
  409. 19:45great things. There are accounts of
  410. 19:48Husro, the king of Persia, witnessing
  411. 19:50prodigies, a palace arch cracking, a
  412. 19:53canal breached, and then he sought to to
  413. 19:55find out what the meanings of these
  414. 19:58events were. He consults his astrologers
  415. 20:00and the cast astrologers look in the
  416. 20:02stars and they find out that Muhammad
  417. 20:04was born.
  418. 20:07Islamic history books contain stories
  419. 20:09that a skilled Jewish astrologer
  420. 20:12calculated a birth and concluded it
  421. 20:15could only belong to a prophet or a
  422. 20:18prophet's vice chair ruling the whole
  423. 20:20world. And this was taken as a sign of
  424. 20:23the birth of the awaited 12th Imm.
  425. 20:28[snorts]
  426. 20:31[sighs and gasps]
  427. 20:34[clears throat]
  428. 20:36[sighs]
  429. 20:38>> So it's impossible. It's impossible that
  430. 20:40this be a coincidence that all of these
  431. 20:42stories from Adam all the way down to
  432. 20:45the 12th imam are speaking repeatedly of
  433. 20:48these people relying on this science and
  434. 20:51it being accurate. So what is the origin
  435. 20:54of astrology
  436. 20:56and best may Allahh be pleased with him
  437. 21:01said it is a knowledge from the sciences
  438. 21:03of prophethood and then he regretted not
  439. 21:06having mastered it. He says, "If only I
  440. 21:08had mastered it."
  441. 21:12A another narration uh states, "Beware
  442. 21:15of rejecting the knowledge of the stars
  443. 21:18for it is among the sciences of
  444. 21:21prophethood."
  445. 21:23What does the say about astrology?
  446. 21:27Abu Abdullah Imam Sodam said he was once
  447. 21:30asked about the stars and he replied no
  448. 21:34one knows this science no one knows
  449. 21:37about the stars except for two
  450. 21:39households a household from the Arabs
  451. 21:42and a household from the Indians and in
  452. 21:46another narration it's said that the
  453. 21:48household from India are actually
  454. 21:51descendants they were the bait of the
  455. 21:54vice gerant of Idris Abu
  456. 22:00Abdaham
  457. 22:01in another narration says in the sky
  458. 22:03there are four stars. None knows them
  459. 22:06except a household from amongst the
  460. 22:08Arabs and a household from amongst the
  461. 22:10Indians know one star of them and for
  462. 22:13that reason their calculations stand. So
  463. 22:16obviously we get from this tradition
  464. 22:17that the knowledge that the household
  465. 22:20from the Arabs have is superior to the
  466. 22:23knowledge that the Indians have.
  467. 22:26The messenger of Allah sallallahu alaihi
  468. 22:28wasall said when the star rises every
  469. 22:32departs. So in classical usage here the
  470. 22:36star is commonly understood as the
  471. 22:37plates and the aa means an affliction
  472. 22:41which affects crops.
  473. 22:44So when the plates rises the crop
  474. 22:47diseases or afflictions are lifted.
  475. 22:53In another narration, a companion says
  476. 22:56that he said to imam,
  477. 22:59"People say that looking into the stars
  478. 23:01is not permissible." And this is
  479. 23:03important because there's a lot of
  480. 23:04people, especially Sunnis that say that
  481. 23:07this whole astrology business, this is
  482. 23:09haram. This is actually divination and
  483. 23:11this is totally shik and not acceptable.
  484. 23:15Somebody poses this question to Imam
  485. 23:17Saddic and he said the man says people
  486. 23:19say that looking into the stars is not
  487. 23:21permissible yet I find it pleasing. I'm
  488. 23:23drawn towards it. My soul wants it. If
  489. 23:27it harms my religion though then I have
  490. 23:29no need for anything that harms my
  491. 23:31religion. But if it does not harm my
  492. 23:33religion by Allah subhana wa ta'ala I
  493. 23:36long for it and for looking into it. He
  494. 23:40said it is not as they say it does not
  495. 23:44harm your religion. Then he added you
  496. 23:46people though meaning your your family
  497. 23:49only look at some of it. Its much cannot
  498. 23:51be fully grasped and its little brings
  499. 23:53no benefit.
  500. 23:56In another narration of Imam Alisam,
  501. 24:00somebody else had written him a letter
  502. 24:04and he wrote to him, "Our father and our
  503. 24:07grandfather used to practice the arts of
  504. 24:10observing, studying the stars. It is it
  505. 24:13permissible to study them?" He said,
  506. 24:16"Yes."
  507. 24:18In the same source, they wrote to him
  508. 24:21again and they said, "We are the
  509. 24:22descendants of Benny Nakt, the
  510. 24:26astrologer family." We already wrote to
  511. 24:28you asking if it is permissible to study
  512. 24:30the science of the stars and you wrote
  513. 24:32back yes. But astrologers differ about
  514. 24:36the description structure of the
  515. 24:38heavens.
  516. 24:40So he I imam wrote back and said yes as
  517. 24:43long as one does not depart from.
  518. 24:47And that's an interesting answer because
  519. 24:49that is the message that in the hermetic
  520. 24:52writings is being repeated over and over
  521. 24:55and over again. Study them. They are
  522. 24:57gods. They have abilities to determine
  523. 25:00outcomes of things. They have
  524. 25:02co-created. They've done this and this
  525. 25:03and this and this. But they are not the
  526. 25:06ultimate god. Another one of the
  527. 25:08companions uh says he said Abu Abdaham
  528. 25:13said to me once how is your skill in in
  529. 25:16regards to the stars. The companion
  530. 25:19Hashem said I have left no one in Iraq
  531. 25:23more knowledgeable of the stars than I.
  532. 25:27He said how do you describe the turning
  533. 25:29of the celestial sphere amongst you?
  534. 25:32until he said, "The basis of calculation
  535. 25:35is true, but none knows it except one
  536. 25:38who knows the births of all creatures."
  537. 25:41Meaning the origin, the the the the
  538. 25:44astrology that we have today, it's been
  539. 25:47changed a little bit. It's been
  540. 25:48polluted. It's been lost. And some of
  541. 25:51the narrations attribute this loss to
  542. 25:53the events that took place with Minisam
  543. 25:57and also with Joshua the son of Nune
  544. 25:59when the son was returned. So they lost
  545. 26:02some of this but it can be gained if you
  546. 26:04know the births of all creatures.
  547. 26:07Another one of the companions says I
  548. 26:10asked Abu Abdisam about the stars are
  549. 26:14their judgments true he said yes. So
  550. 26:17imagine that narration he's essentially
  551. 26:20saying that he asks Imam when I look at
  552. 26:24the stars and the stars predict that
  553. 26:28somebody's going to die that somebody's
  554. 26:30going to be wealthy that somebody's
  555. 26:32going to be successful that somebody's
  556. 26:34going to have bad events that happen in
  557. 26:36his life are these things to be believed
  558. 26:39and I imam says yes
  559. 26:44[snorts]
  560. 26:45in this narration And it's related that
  561. 26:47Harun Rasheed sent for Musa Jaffer
  562. 26:51Alisam and had him brought. When he
  563. 26:54arrived, Harun said to him, "People
  564. 26:56attribute to you, oh sons of Fatima,
  565. 27:00knowledge of the stars and your mastery
  566. 27:02of it is said to be excellent." So the
  567. 27:05people in the in those times they knew
  568. 27:07that Muhammad and the family of Muhammad
  569. 27:09were masters of astrology. Yet the
  570. 27:13jurists, the
  571. 27:15the of the majority meaning say that the
  572. 27:20messenger of God said
  573. 27:23when my companions are mentioned keep
  574. 27:25silent. This is one of those fake
  575. 27:28hadiths where says the prophet saying
  576. 27:30that anybody who talks about about my
  577. 27:32companions don't if they even mention
  578. 27:34their name stay silent and when the
  579. 27:36stars are mentioned stay silent.
  580. 27:39Meanwhile, the commander of the faithful
  581. 27:42was the most knowledgeable of creation
  582. 27:45in the science of the stars and his
  583. 27:47sons.
  584. 27:50Ali Alisam
  585. 27:51said, "Whoever takes up some knowledge
  586. 27:54about the sciences of the stars from
  587. 27:57amongst the bearers of the Quran, it
  588. 28:00increases them in faith and certitude,
  589. 28:05certainty, ya." Then he recited indeed
  590. 28:09in the alternation of night and day and
  591. 28:11in what Allah has created in the heavens
  592. 28:13and the earth are signs for a people who
  593. 28:16are god-fearing.
  594. 28:19Soam
  595. 28:21are saying that the more that you delve
  596. 28:22into this knowledge about the stars
  597. 28:25about the planetary bodies and their
  598. 28:26effect on humanity and society the more
  599. 28:30that you will actually have y in your
  600. 28:33religion. [applause]
  601. 28:42So one of the companions his name was
  602. 28:44Ununice he says I said to Abdisam may I
  603. 28:47be your ransom tell me about the science
  604. 28:50of the stars. What is it? He said it is
  605. 28:53a knowledge from amongst the sciences of
  606. 28:56the prophets. I said did aliam
  607. 28:59know it? He said he was the most
  608. 29:01knowledgeable of all people in it.
  609. 29:06There's a Quranic verse that says, "And
  610. 29:07thus we showed Abraham the dominion, the
  611. 29:10melakut of the heavens and the earth so
  612. 29:12that he might be of those with
  613. 29:15certainty." Abu Jafir Alisam said
  614. 29:18regarding that meaning concerning this
  615. 29:20verse, the seven heavens were unveiled
  616. 29:23for him until he looked upon the seventh
  617. 29:26heaven and what is in it and the seven
  618. 29:28earths until he looked upon them and
  619. 29:31what is in them. The same was done for
  620. 29:34Muhammad sallallahu alaihi as was done
  621. 29:36for Abraham.
  622. 29:39And I indeed see that your companion,
  623. 29:42the Imam, had the like done for him and
  624. 29:45the imams after him likewise.
  625. 29:49Now here's here's an interesting
  626. 29:51narration.
  627. 29:53Abu Abdaham
  628. 29:55says, "Whoever sets out on a journey or
  629. 29:59marries," so this is different than all
  630. 30:00these other narrations. All these other
  631. 30:02narrations are establishing that
  632. 30:04Muhammad and the family Muhammad are
  633. 30:06master astrologers and that this science
  634. 30:09is actually descendant from the prophets
  635. 30:11and that it's not haram. This narration
  636. 30:14Imam is actually telling he's
  637. 30:17instructing the Shia to look into the
  638. 30:20stars see if this is taking place in the
  639. 30:23heavens and if it is basically base your
  640. 30:26behavior base your plans around that.
  641. 30:29Whoever sets out on a journey or marries
  642. 30:33when the moon is in Scorpio will not see
  643. 30:36a good outcome.
  644. 30:38And uh in another narration is clarified
  645. 30:42that basically if the moon is in Scorpio
  646. 30:44and a person gets married then they will
  647. 30:47have a miscarriage. So this is
  648. 30:49associated with that insi
  649. 30:53a
  650. 30:55Quranic interpretation book that relies
  651. 30:58heavily upon the narrations of Muhammad
  652. 31:01and the family of Muhammad in regards to
  653. 31:03the meanings of the verses. It was said
  654. 31:05uh as for the people of [clears throat]
  655. 31:08they were destroyed by a howling furious
  656. 31:11wind. El Ki says it was a cold and
  657. 31:15overbearing wind. He also said it went
  658. 31:18forth beyond what it had been commanded.
  659. 31:22He said it over them. God subjected it
  660. 31:25to them by his power for seven nights
  661. 31:29and 8 days consecutively.
  662. 31:32El Ki said the moon was illomen by
  663. 31:36Saturn for seven nights and 8 days until
  664. 31:40they perished. And he is referring
  665. 31:45actually if you look at the the picture
  666. 31:47here um on the on the right hand side
  667. 31:51and you read verse 19 it says verily we
  668. 31:55have sent against them a horrible wind
  669. 32:00in a day that is unlucky that is
  670. 32:03continuously unlucky or continuously NAS
  671. 32:07and we know that this word NAS is always
  672. 32:09used by the astrologers when they're
  673. 32:11talking about a bad omen or a bad
  674. 32:14constellation or a bad conjunction of
  675. 32:18the planetary bodies in the heavens. So
  676. 32:21I say it has already been mentioned in
  677. 32:23surah that the first of the eight and
  678. 32:26their last were on Wednesday and that it
  679. 32:28was a persistent ill omen.
  680. 32:32So you see the people within them fallen
  681. 32:34dead struck down as if they were hollow
  682. 32:37rotted trunks of palm trees mere stumps.
  683. 32:41So essentially what he's saying is he's
  684. 32:44saying that the reason why this
  685. 32:47punishment came down, God sent the
  686. 32:49punishment upon them, yes, but he did it
  687. 32:52by using the planetary bodies that the
  688. 32:56planetary bodies partnered with God in
  689. 33:00this punishment. Actually, they went a
  690. 33:03little bit above and beyond with the
  691. 33:05punishment more than what God even asked
  692. 33:08for. And so they are collaborating with
  693. 33:11God and they're responsible for
  694. 33:14misfortunes taking place on earth.
  695. 33:19So what about the connection between the
  696. 33:21seven gods and the
  697. 33:24is there one?
  698. 33:27In the hermetic writings the seven gods
  699. 33:30are the planetary rulers Saturn,
  700. 33:33Jupiter, Mars, Sun, Venus, Mercury and
  701. 33:36the moon. They are subordinate powers
  702. 33:40set beneath the one the good God the
  703. 33:43father. They are called rulers and fate
  704. 33:48not creators from nothing but co-causes
  705. 33:52who bring forth what is appointed. So
  706. 33:54God decrees something. He uses them as
  707. 33:58his hands, as his uh carriers or
  708. 34:01implementers of his will
  709. 34:04by separating and stamping forms within
  710. 34:07fertile nature through their circulating
  711. 34:10powers. The subliminary world is
  712. 34:13generated, ordered, and timed. Because
  713. 34:17they govern birth, mixture, and destiny.
  714. 34:21They also stand over the soul's
  715. 34:24condition after death. The soul ascends
  716. 34:27through seven spheres where each power
  717. 34:31tests and strips off its corresponding
  718. 34:34passions, and we went over this in the
  719. 34:35previous lectures, and influences. In
  720. 34:38this sense, the planetary gods act as
  721. 34:41cosmic administrators and assessors,
  722. 34:45cocreating by delegation during life and
  723. 34:49judging the soul's attachments to the
  724. 34:51dunya after death, yet always under and
  725. 34:55within the will of the transcendent
  726. 34:58father.
  727. 35:00What about theam
  728. 35:02in Shia Islamic theology especially in
  729. 35:0612 teachings and later theological
  730. 35:09mystical writings theam
  731. 35:12are co-creators just like the planetary
  732. 35:15bodies were the are co-creators by the
  733. 35:19permission of Allah as Jesus was and the
  734. 35:23divinelyapp appointed witnesses they are
  735. 35:25divinelyappointed witnesses and
  736. 35:27mediators through whom God's command and
  737. 35:30in mercy reaches creation. Described as
  738. 35:34ha, God's proof, they possess wlea
  739. 35:37tuina, the authority to administer
  740. 35:40affairs by God's permission. So
  741. 35:43guidance, protection, sustenance, and
  742. 35:46even cosmic order are said to flow
  743. 35:49through them without compromising
  744. 35:51tohheed. In life, they cooperate in
  745. 35:55God's governance by teaching the law,
  746. 35:58unveiling wisdom, rectifying souls,
  747. 36:00bringing down sustenance after death.
  748. 36:03They are linked to the soul's passage.
  749. 36:06And they are bearers of chafa, such that
  750. 36:09a person's allegiance and likeness to
  751. 36:12them determines what is shed or kept
  752. 36:15from the soul. Thus all of the planetary
  753. 36:18powers function as delegated
  754. 36:22administrators in hermetic thought
  755. 36:27are portrayed as God's appointed
  756. 36:29administrators of guidance and mercy
  757. 36:32testing refining and aiding souls always
  758. 36:36under and within God's will. Essentially
  759. 36:39what like the description of these seven
  760. 36:41planets is identical to the description
  761. 36:45of theam. You could really just take the
  762. 36:48word go over here plug it in where the
  763. 36:51planets are. You go over here you plug
  764. 36:54the names of the planets in place of the
  765. 36:56description of the it would still make
  766. 36:59the same meaning. It would make total
  767. 37:01sense.
  768. 37:03Immad Alisam says God created the will
  769. 37:07by itself then he created things through
  770. 37:10the will. Remember remember the the the
  771. 37:14the map that we had the mind map that we
  772. 37:16had yesterday or the day before on the
  773. 37:18lecture uh we said that the father
  774. 37:21emanated right as Allah subhana wa
  775. 37:24ta'ala and Allah had a will right
  776. 37:27>> here this mashia Imam is saying god
  777. 37:30created the will by itself then he
  778. 37:33created things through the will.
  779. 37:37All right. Well, who is this will? What
  780. 37:39is this will? Imm Abu Hassan Alisam said
  781. 37:43to me, "Oh, Ununice, do you know what is
  782. 37:45the will? What is this Msiah?" Okay. So,
  783. 37:47we're getting we're going to know
  784. 37:49exactly what it is from the words of the
  785. 37:51You don't have to take any words from
  786. 37:52me. We're just going to go purely off of
  787. 37:55the evidence. Do you know what the Msiah
  788. 37:57is? I said, "No." He said, "It is the
  789. 38:00first remembrance, the first zik."
  790. 38:04Okay. What's this first zik from Abu
  791. 38:08Abdah Imam regarding God's saying so ask
  792. 38:11the people of the reminder or a zik if
  793. 38:14you do not know he says the is Muhammad
  794. 38:18sallallahu alaihi
  795. 38:30>> and we are its people and we are the
  796. 38:33ones to be asked Im
  797. 38:36Bakar Alisam said the reckoning of the
  798. 38:39people is handed over to us. So now
  799. 38:42we've established without a shadow of a
  800. 38:44doubt that the
  801. 38:47are the creators just like the planetary
  802. 38:49bodies are in the hermetic the are
  803. 38:53creators of this world and imbakam said
  804. 38:57the reckoning or the judgment of the
  805. 38:59people is handed over to us by God.
  806. 39:02We're the ones that admit people into
  807. 39:04heaven and we admit the people of hell
  808. 39:07into hell.
  809. 39:09The commander of the faithful said, "Man
  810. 39:11was created with a rational speaking
  811. 39:14soul. If he purifies it through
  812. 39:16knowledge and action, it c it comes to
  813. 39:20resemble the essences of its first
  814. 39:22causes. And when its temperament is
  815. 39:25balanced and it departs from opposing
  816. 39:28qualities, he becomes a partner to the
  817. 39:31seven mighty or pulling ones.
  818. 39:36What's he talking about? What's the
  819. 39:37seven mighty ones? The seven ones that
  820. 39:39are magnetic that pull. Who are these?
  821. 39:41It's the seven planetary bodies. So when
  822. 39:45a man perfects himself, purifies his
  823. 39:48soul, what does he unite with? He unites
  824. 39:51with these seven gods. In another
  825. 39:56narration, Abu Hassan Alisam said about
  826. 39:58the verse and indeed we have given you
  827. 40:00the seven of repeated and the
  828. 40:03magnificent Quran. None of the prophets
  829. 40:06was given this except for Muhammad
  830. 40:08sallallahu alaihi. The seven often
  831. 40:11repeated, the Sabathani, the seven mathi
  832. 40:15are the seven imams around whom the
  833. 40:18celestial sphere revolves. And the
  834. 40:22magnificent Quran is Muhammad sallallahu
  835. 40:24alaihi wasall.
  836. 40:26>> Are you ready for more?
  837. 40:30>> The messenger of Allah sallallahu alaihi
  838. 40:32wasall said this is a magnificent
  839. 40:33hadith. This is really a magnificent
  840. 40:36hadith.
  841. 40:48The messenger of Allah sallallahu alaihi
  842. 40:50wasall said follow the sun and when the
  843. 40:52sun sets follow the moon and when the
  844. 40:54moon sets follow Venus and when Venus
  845. 40:57sets follow the two farad stars they
  846. 41:00said oh messenger of Allah who are the
  847. 41:02sun the moon Venus and the two farad
  848. 41:04stars he said I'm the
  849. 41:07Ali is the moon. Fimatu Ali is Venus and
  850. 41:13the two stars are Al Hassan and Al
  851. 41:16Hussein.
  852. 41:19>> [applause]
  853. 41:26[applause]
  854. 41:30>> We we we spoke about we spoke about one
  855. 41:33of the previous episodes about and we
  856. 41:35promised that we were going to reveal
  857. 41:36the hidden meaning behind the statues
  858. 41:40that we have in here of Venus. And the
  859. 41:42Arabic name of Venus is Azah.
  860. 41:46And the nickname of Fatima is Fatima
  861. 41:49Zahisam.
  862. 41:51Isn't that incredible?
  863. 41:56>> Now this is the story of a Yemen who
  864. 41:58entered upon Imam Alisam. The Imam
  865. 42:01called him by his name which no one
  866. 42:03knew. It was sad. He said to him, "Oh
  867. 42:06Sad, what is your craft?" He said, "I am
  868. 42:09from a household that studies the
  869. 42:11stars." until the imam said, "What is
  870. 42:14the name of the star which when it rises
  871. 42:18agitates the camels?" Now, if we just
  872. 42:22stop right there, that's enough to tell
  873. 42:23us that the stars are actually by the
  874. 42:27admission of Imam Sodam playing a role
  875. 42:31in the mood of a particular animal, the
  876. 42:34mood of the camels, and that there's a
  877. 42:36star that's responsible to make them
  878. 42:38howl. He said, "I don't know." He said,
  879. 42:41"You have spoken the truth." He said,
  880. 42:43"Okay, well, what is the name of the
  881. 42:45star which when it rises agitates the
  882. 42:49cattle?"
  883. 42:50He said, "I don't know." He said,
  884. 42:51"You've spoken the truth." He said,
  885. 42:54"What is the name of the star which when
  886. 42:56it rises agitates the dogs?" He said, "I
  887. 43:01don't know." He said, "You've spoken the
  888. 43:03truth in saying, I don't know." Then he
  889. 43:05said, "What is Zahal Saturn with you
  890. 43:08amongst the stars?" He said, "It's an
  891. 43:12inospicious star." Abu Abdaham said, "Do
  892. 43:15not say that. It is the star of the
  893. 43:18commander of the faithful Amir Minisam
  894. 43:21and the star of his vice gren. It is the
  895. 43:23piercing star which god most high
  896. 43:26mentioned in his book." And so sad
  897. 43:30thought that Saturn was an unlucky star.
  898. 43:32It's a bad sign when it appears in the
  899. 43:34in the sky. And Saturn is the ruler of
  900. 43:37the seventh heaven. The seventh heaven
  901. 43:39is the heaven which has the siddra tree
  902. 43:42that Muhammad sallallahu alaihi wasalls
  903. 43:44to before he reaches Allah subhana wa
  904. 43:47ta'ala. It's at the edge of it. Here
  905. 43:50we're we're seeing that that basically
  906. 43:54essentially I imam is saying that
  907. 44:00is the ruler of the seventh heaven. The
  908. 44:03seventh heaven that is at the very end
  909. 44:06of those seven heavens that we said all
  910. 44:08collectively exist within the uh throne.
  911. 44:14Imam was asked about the stars. Is the
  912. 44:18knowledge of them true? He replied,
  913. 44:20"Yes, indeed. God sent Jupiter to the
  914. 44:24earth in the form of a man." He took a
  915. 44:28man from the non-Arabs and taught him
  916. 44:31the science of the stars until the man
  917. 44:34thought he had mastered it. Then he said
  918. 44:37to him, "Look, where is Jupiter?" So,
  919. 44:40here's a man.
  920. 44:42Jupiter appears to him in the form of a
  921. 44:44man. He's a non-Arab. Jupiter appears to
  922. 44:47him. Jupiter teaches this non-Arab all
  923. 44:51the sciences of the stars until he
  924. 44:54thinks that he mastered it. Then he said
  925. 44:55to him, "Look, where is Jupiter?" He
  926. 44:57said, "I do not see it in the celestial
  927. 44:59sphere, nor do I know where it is. My
  928. 45:03calculations are saying it's supposed to
  929. 45:05be there, but I'm not seeing it." So he
  930. 45:08set him aside and took the hand of a man
  931. 45:10from India and taught him until he
  932. 45:12thought he had mastered it. then said
  933. 45:15look where is Jupiter? He said my
  934. 45:17calculation indicates that you are
  935. 45:19Jupiter. He gasped and died and his
  936. 45:23family inherited his knowledge. So the
  937. 45:26knowledge is there amongst them. And in
  938. 45:29this particular narration, we see that
  939. 45:32Muhammad and the family of Muhammad Ali
  940. 45:34are saying that these seven gods that
  941. 45:36abide in the heavens that these gods
  942. 45:39that parttook in creation that they also
  943. 45:42have the ability to manifest on earth in
  944. 45:46human form
  945. 45:48just like that.
  946. 45:51And so we're going to stop there, but
  947. 45:53inshallah in the future lectures we're
  948. 45:55going to talk about how the planetary
  949. 45:58bodies
  950. 46:00um eventually came to be worshiped and
  951. 46:02how the people made statues of them and
  952. 46:06actually how Hermes in his discourses
  953. 46:09talked about how the Egyptians had
  954. 46:14perfected a method whereby through
  955. 46:17particular rituals they were able to
  956. 46:21insole a spirit in a statue. And they
  957. 46:25would harness the statue and use it to
  958. 46:29be able to tell them information about
  959. 46:32the future and the fortunes uh of
  960. 46:35mankind and how at some particular point
  961. 46:37in Egyptian history, those spirits that
  962. 46:40embodied those statues left those
  963. 46:43statues and the people forgot about it.
  964. 46:45Anyway, I'll stop there not to confuse
  965. 46:46you guys. God bless you and

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