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  1. 0:04But we're actually going to dive
  2. 0:05straight in with our main and only story
  3. 0:07tonight, which concerns the Republican
  4. 0:09Party narrowly beating out Bachelorette
  5. 0:11as the best type of party to join if you
  6. 0:13want to be absolutely surrounded by
  7. 0:15dicks.
  8. 0:17Specifically, I want to talk about a
  9. 0:18worrying trend that's been steadily on
  10. 0:20the rise with perhaps the stupidest
  11. 0:22example being this bold Veterans Day
  12. 0:24post that recently resurfaced.
  13. 0:27>> The Republican candidate for New York's
  14. 0:2919th Congressional District is facing
  15. 0:31criticism over a decade-old Facebook
  16. 0:35post honoring his grandfather who fought
  17. 0:38for Nazi Germany. In the photo, his
  18. 0:40grandfather is wearing a military
  19. 0:42uniform with Nazi swastikas. Oberacker
  20. 0:46told Politico it was the only picture of
  21. 0:48his grandfather that he has.
  22. 0:51>> Yeah.
  23. 0:52Not great. And for the record, don't be
  24. 0:54mad at me, that's the only picture I
  25. 0:56have.
  26. 0:57Might work as an excuse when the photo
  27. 0:59is family brunch but Aunt Matilda
  28. 1:01blinks, but not when it's Grandpa Ludwig
  29. 1:04in full swastika sheen.
  30. 1:06If that is the only picture that you
  31. 1:08have, maybe consider having no pictures
  32. 1:10of him.
  33. 1:11You can sit Veterans Day out, no one
  34. 1:14will think that's weird.
  35. 1:16But that's just one of many moments when
  36. 1:18the Republican Party has recently found
  37. 1:19itself answering some uncomfortable
  38. 1:21questions about Nazi references. In
  39. 1:24fact, on day one of Trump's second term,
  40. 1:26Elon Musk attracted attention after
  41. 1:28thanking Trump supporters like this.
  42. 1:31>> I just want to say thank you
  43. 1:33for making it happen. Thank you.
  44. 1:36>> [cheering]
  45. 1:41>> My heart goes out to you.
  46. 1:43>> Yeah, that gesture and the weird little
  47. 1:46grunt that came with it
  48. 1:48are a bit worse than you remember,
  49. 1:49right? Because everything about that
  50. 1:51screams Nazi. Well, almost everything.
  51. 1:54To be fair to the Nazis, unlike Elon,
  52. 1:56they at least looked sharp in their
  53. 1:57suits.
  54. 1:59But it does feel like the Republican
  55. 2:01Party's been getting way too comfortable
  56. 2:03with some at best Nazi-adjacent
  57. 2:06This Trump appointee withdrew his
  58. 2:07nomination to head the Office of Special
  59. 2:09Counsel after it emerged he'd said in a
  60. 2:11group chat that I do have a Nazi streak
  61. 2:13in me from time to time. And this
  62. 2:15congressional candidate in Texas made a
  63. 2:17video in which he showed off a gun that
  64. 2:19he called Hitler's Street Sweeper, and
  65. 2:21which featured him and a friend
  66. 2:23goose-stepping to a Nazi marching song.
  67. 2:25And look, let's give them maximum
  68. 2:27benefit of the doubt here, because you
  69. 2:29can potentially, right, some of those
  70. 2:31things off to just an edgy joke in poor
  71. 2:33taste or being guilty of loving Grandpa
  72. 2:36Ludwig a little too much. And I know
  73. 2:39Republicans often complain that liberals
  74. 2:40call them Nazis regardless. Elon even
  75. 2:43posted right after doing his Hitler
  76. 2:44Howdy that the "Everyone is Hitler
  77. 2:47attack is so tired." And last July, a
  78. 2:50Fox panel even tried to laugh off
  79. 2:51comparisons between ICE and Nazis with
  80. 2:53this hilarious riff.
  81. 2:56>> This is why the criticism doesn't matter
  82. 2:58to us. When you call us Nazis, Nazi
  83. 3:00this, Nazi that,
  84. 3:03you know, I'm beginning to think they
  85. 3:04don't like us. You know what? I've said
  86. 3:07this before, we need to learn from the
  87. 3:08blacks.
  88. 3:09The way they they were able to remove
  89. 3:11the power from the N-word by using it.
  90. 3:14So, from now on it's "What up, my Nazi?"
  91. 3:17>> hey, hey, hey.
  92. 3:17>> Hey, "What up, my Nazi?" Hey, "What's
  93. 3:19hanging, my Nazi?" Um
  94. 3:23>> Nazi, PLEASE.
  95. 3:27>> SO FUN.
  96. 3:30I'LL
  97. 3:30I'LL BE HONEST. I thought that clip
  98. 3:33would peak in unwatchability the moment
  99. 3:34he said "the blacks," but it somehow got
  100. 3:37worse from there. Also, for what it's
  101. 3:39worth, I never want to hear the phrase
  102. 3:41"What's hanging, my Nazi?" unless it's
  103. 3:43coming from one of the executioners at
  104. 3:45Nuremberg. "What's hanging, my Nazi?"
  105. 3:47"Oh, about 5-6 ft of hemp. Why do you
  106. 3:49ask?" But, I don't know. Those ICE-Nazi
  107. 3:52comparisons don't feel entirely unearned
  108. 3:55to me, especially given, as we have
  109. 3:57discussed before, DHS has put out
  110. 3:59material like this ICE recruitment ad
  111. 4:01with the caption "Which way American
  112. 4:03man?" Pretty clearly mirroring "Which
  113. 4:04way Western man?" a book by a neo-Nazi
  114. 4:07that's popular among white supremacists.
  115. 4:10And this Instagram post showing a beach
  116. 4:11with the words, "America after 100
  117. 4:13million deportations." captioned, "The
  118. 4:15peace of a nation no longer besieged by
  119. 4:18the third world." And I'm sure the
  120. 4:19people behind those posts will insist
  121. 4:21they do not know what I am talking about
  122. 4:24right now, to which I'd say, to borrow a
  123. 4:25truly cursed phrase, "Nazi, please."
  124. 4:29But wait, is that still not all? Because
  125. 4:32naked bigotry from prominent Republicans
  126. 4:34seems to be increasingly the norm.
  127. 4:36Tennessee's Andy Ogles has posted,
  128. 4:38"Muslims don't belong in American
  129. 4:40society." Senator Tommy Tuberville has
  130. 4:42posted, "We must immediately ban all
  131. 4:44Islam immigrants." And just last month,
  132. 4:46Bo French, Republican candidate for
  133. 4:48Texas Railroad Commissioner, attracted a
  134. 4:50lot of attention after doing this.
  135. 4:53>> Following that big Longhorns win on
  136. 4:55Saturday, French posted a photo of this
  137. 4:58group of students saying, among other
  138. 5:00things, quote, "Social media is exposing
  139. 5:03how many Americans have been displaced
  140. 5:06by foreigners. It's everywhere and far
  141. 5:09worse than any of us could imagine." he
  142. 5:11said. One of the students pictured there
  143. 5:14is a UT senior from Flower Mound.
  144. 5:18>> To see someone that's like running for a
  145. 5:19position of power saying something like
  146. 5:22that is just That's just something I
  147. 5:23never like even like
  148. 5:26thought was possible.
  149. 5:27>> Yeah, that is awful because it is pretty
  150. 5:29clear what made him jump to the word
  151. 5:32foreigner in that footage, given
  152. 5:33everything else about it is almost
  153. 5:35offensively Texan. Wearing a cowboy hat
  154. 5:39at a football game while doing hook 'em
  155. 5:41horns.
  156. 5:42I don't know how that could get any more
  157. 5:44Texan without them somehow losing at the
  158. 5:45Alamo. AND YET
  159. 5:47THAT PROBABLY shouldn't be surprising
  160. 5:49coming from French, given he's
  161. 5:50previously posted things like, "I won't
  162. 5:52rest until every Muslim is gone." and a
  163. 5:54poll asking, "Who is a bigger threat to
  164. 5:56America, Jews or Muslims?" which might
  165. 5:58be my least favorite question ever asked
  166. 6:01on that platform. With my favorite still
  167. 6:04being when in 2010, Kevin Durant asked
  168. 6:06his followers getting a massage, "I'm
  169. 6:08face down and I got a fart. What should
  170. 6:10I do?" A tweet so good it's still
  171. 6:13getting RESPONSES 16 YEARS LATER.
  172. 6:17Even though I am pretty sure the
  173. 6:19question was time sensitive.
  174. 6:22Frenchie's post got so much blowback
  175. 6:25even Karl Rove, the architect of George
  176. 6:27W. Bush's presidential campaigns,
  177. 6:28announced he'll vote for the Democrat in
  178. 6:31Frenchie's race this year, later
  179. 6:32explaining why.
  180. 6:34>> My party has been infiltrated by people
  181. 6:37like Bo French.
  182. 6:39Nick Fuentes goes to Dallas and meets
  183. 6:41with a bunch of Republican leaders. This
  184. 6:43guy is a Nazi.
  185. 6:45You know, we got we got all these people
  186. 6:47you know now on getting their little
  187. 6:49podcasts and so forth we're just asking
  188. 6:51questions about the Jews. We didn't
  189. 6:53labor in the wilderness to build a
  190. 6:55conservative party that was inclusive
  191. 6:58and welcoming.
  192. 6:59Said it didn't matter who you were or
  193. 7:01where you came from. What mattered was
  194. 7:03in your heart and what you believed.
  195. 7:06I didn't work for that party and see it
  196. 7:07taken over by a bunch of bigots.
  197. 7:10>> Okay, let's set aside all that
  198. 7:13about how the Republican Party used to
  199. 7:14be so accepting and come back to it
  200. 7:17later. Suffice it to say citation
  201. 7:19needed, Karl.
  202. 7:20But
  203. 7:21you know things have gone off the rails
  204. 7:23when you've lost the moral high ground
  205. 7:25TO KARL ROVE HERE. When you've
  206. 7:27lost the man who said he's proud of
  207. 7:29waterboarding, that's kind of the whole
  208. 7:31ballgame.
  209. 7:33But it's not just Rove sounding the
  210. 7:34alarm. The right-wing commentator Eric
  211. 7:36Erickson has said that conservative
  212. 7:37institutions have been infiltrated by
  213. 7:39men who embrace white nationalism,
  214. 7:41anti-Semitism, and even Nazi sympathies.
  215. 7:43And even the late Lindsey Graham, rest
  216. 7:45in power, felt the need to go on stage
  217. 7:48last fall at a Republican Jewish
  218. 7:50Coalition event and say this.
  219. 7:53>> But I just want to make it really clear,
  220. 7:55I'm in the Hitler sucks wing of the
  221. 7:57Republican Party.
  222. 8:00>> [cheering]
  223. 8:04>> What is this Hitler I don't know.
  224. 8:06>> Yeah.
  225. 8:07>> [laughter]
  226. 8:08>> You know
  227. 8:09a political party is in pretty bad shape
  228. 8:12when their members have to clarify that
  229. 8:13they are not the ones who love Hitler.
  230. 8:16It's like seeing a sign that says, "In
  231. 8:17this Cinnabon, we believe in hand
  232. 8:19washing." I mean, that's reassuring, I
  233. 8:22guess, but I do now have some broader
  234. 8:24follow-up questions about your larger
  235. 8:26organization.
  236. 8:28So, if multiple Republicans are raising
  237. 8:30the alarm about their party being
  238. 8:31infiltrated by extremists, we thought
  239. 8:33tonight we'd try and answer the question
  240. 8:35that Lindsey Graham posed so elegantly
  241. 8:37{slash} drunkenly there. What is this
  242. 8:40Hitler
  243. 8:42Specifically, why are we hearing so much
  244. 8:44about it right now? What are Republicans
  245. 8:46doing about it? And where could it end
  246. 8:48up taking us? Let's start with why now?
  247. 8:50Because there are a bunch of reasons for
  248. 8:52that, but one big one is in the wake of
  249. 8:54Israel's war in Gaza and our war in
  250. 8:57Iran, there's suddenly a lot more
  251. 8:58appetite for discussion about our
  252. 8:59foreign policy in the Middle East and
  253. 9:01America's relationship with Israel,
  254. 9:03which is good and long overdue.
  255. 9:07But some on the far right have seized
  256. 9:09upon this moment to elevate anti-Semitic
  257. 9:11conspiracy theories. And for many, the
  258. 9:13moment that dynamic burst into the open
  259. 9:15came almost exactly a year ago when
  260. 9:17Tucker Carlson decided to sit down with
  261. 9:19the known white nationalist and
  262. 9:20anti-Semite Nick Fuentes. The tone of
  263. 9:23Tucker's interview was suspiciously
  264. 9:25cordial with this early exchange setting
  265. 9:27a baseline for the whole thing.
  266. 9:29>> To the extent that I've been taken out
  267. 9:30of context over the years or things like
  268. 9:32that, I'm trying to set the record
  269. 9:33straight and say, you know, and I
  270. 9:35appreciate you've given me this
  271. 9:36opportunity. These are my real views.
  272. 9:38I'm not one of those haters, let's say.
  273. 9:41>> Yeah, well, I think people should be
  274. 9:43allowed to describe what they think.
  275. 9:44>> Mhm.
  276. 9:45I mean, that's like basic human autonomy
  277. 9:47question.
  278. 9:48>> Yeah.
  279. 9:48>> Like if I want to know what you think, I
  280. 9:49should just ask you and let you talk.
  281. 9:51>> Mhm.
  282. 9:51>> Right?
  283. 9:52>> Yeah.
  284. 9:53>> Yeah.
  285. 9:54It was just two reasonable guys having a
  286. 9:56chat in a cabin that looks like an
  287. 9:58Airbnb for serial killers because that
  288. 10:00place has everything. Antlers, swords,
  289. 10:04soundproofing, I assume. Everything you
  290. 10:07could possibly want for a weekend with
  291. 10:08the guys hanging out discussing race
  292. 10:10science, and maybe surreptitiously
  293. 10:12vanishing hitchhikers.
  294. 10:13In that interview, Tucker gave Fuentes a
  295. 10:16platform to present a pretty polished
  296. 10:18version of himself, while also letting
  297. 10:20some fairly loud bigotry slide. Like
  298. 10:22this moment when Fuentes slowly walked
  299. 10:24into the anti-Semitic trope that
  300. 10:25American Jews have dual loyalty to the
  301. 10:28US and Israel.
  302. 10:30>> I guess what I'm saying is that if you
  303. 10:32are a Jewish person in America, you're
  304. 10:34sort of
  305. 10:35and again, it's not because they're
  306. 10:37born, but it's sort of a rational
  307. 10:39self-interest politically to say,
  308. 10:42"I'm a minority. I'm a religious ethnic
  309. 10:45minority.
  310. 10:46This is not really my home. My ancestral
  311. 10:49home is in Israel.
  312. 10:51There's like a natural affinity that
  313. 10:53Jews have for Israel. And I would say on
  314. 10:56top of that, for the international
  315. 10:58Jewish community. They're extremely
  316. 11:00organized. And many of them are critical
  317. 11:02of Israel or Israel's current government
  318. 11:04or the project of Israel.
  319. 11:06But I guess what they have in common,
  320. 11:08unlike, let's say like, um, Singapore,
  321. 11:10for example,
  322. 11:12is that they have this international
  323. 11:14community
  324. 11:15across borders, extremely organized,
  325. 11:19uh, that is putting the interests of
  326. 11:21themselves before the interests of their
  327. 11:23home country.
  328. 11:24>> Okay. Accusing Jewish Americans of
  329. 11:26putting Israel's interests ahead of
  330. 11:28America's is just absurd. Lots of people
  331. 11:31have connections to other countries
  332. 11:32without being sleeper agents for them. I
  333. 11:35was born in the UK, and that freaky
  334. 11:37little island has no power over me,
  335. 11:40other than, I guess, making me suffer at
  336. 11:42every World Cup.
  337. 11:44And cursing me to be the only person in
  338. 11:45our office who pronounces aluminum
  339. 11:47correctly. Still,
  340. 11:49WHAT A FUN DISCUSSION THAT MUST HAVE
  341. 11:51been for Tucker's sponsors for that
  342. 11:52episode, which included, and this is
  343. 11:54true, Vande potato chips. And I don't
  344. 11:57know what's worse there, if Vande
  345. 11:58accidentally sponsored chatting Jews at
  346. 12:00the freak shack, or if they were briefed
  347. 12:03ahead of time and said, "Oh, we're
  348. 12:04definitely in, T-Bone."
  349. 12:06Anyway, I should say, Tucker did offer
  350. 12:09some soft pushback during that over
  351. 12:11two-hour interview, although notably not
  352. 12:13when Fuentes blamed America's problems
  353. 12:15on quote organized Jewry or when he
  354. 12:17mentioned Joseph Stalin's birthday and
  355. 12:19said he was a fan, to which Tucker said,
  356. 12:22"We'll circle back to that." And then,
  357. 12:24just as Stalin did when he meant to save
  358. 12:25millions of peasants from starving to
  359. 12:27death, probably just forgot to. Now, in
  360. 12:30the aftermath of that sit-down, battle
  361. 12:32lines were drawn across the political
  362. 12:34right with many arguing Tucker shouldn't
  363. 12:36have given such a softball interview to
  364. 12:38Fuentes, especially since it gave him
  365. 12:40access to one of the largest audiences
  366. 12:42he's ever had. But, the Heritage
  367. 12:44Foundation, one of the largest, most
  368. 12:46influential think tanks in America,
  369. 12:48initially stood by Tucker, with whom it
  370. 12:50had recently had an advertising deal. In
  371. 12:52fact, its president, Kevin Roberts, even
  372. 12:54put out a video in which he said, "We
  373. 12:55will always defend our friends against
  374. 12:57the slander of bad actors who serve
  375. 12:59someone else's agenda. That includes
  376. 13:02Tucker Carlson." He also said Tucker was
  377. 13:04under attack from a venomous coalition
  378. 13:06and mentioned pressure from the
  379. 13:07globalist class. Both, if you are not
  380. 13:09aware, pretty notable dog whistles. Now,
  381. 13:12in the wake of that video, dozens of
  382. 13:14Heritage staff members departed, as did
  383. 13:16several board members, and an
  384. 13:17antisemitism task force severed ties
  385. 13:20with the foundation. Eventually, Roberts
  386. 13:22admitted he'd used a terrible choice of
  387. 13:24words and addressed his remaining staff
  388. 13:26in an all-hands meeting in which he
  389. 13:28tried, unconvincingly, to plead
  390. 13:30ignorance about the issues with Carlson
  391. 13:32and Fuentes.
  392. 13:33>> I don't actually don't have time to
  393. 13:35consume a lot of news.
  394. 13:39I don't mean this is a as a fake attempt
  395. 13:41at lightheartedness. I
  396. 13:43I I consume a lot of sports.
  397. 13:46I don't consume a lot of podcasts, not
  398. 13:49even ours. I don't consume a lot of
  399. 13:50news.
  400. 13:52And that ignorance should have told me,
  401. 13:56"Ask around."
  402. 13:58>> Wow. It is one thing to say you don't
  403. 14:01watch a lot of news if you're a
  404. 14:02salesperson or an electrician or a
  405. 14:04doctor. It is quite another to say it as
  406. 14:06the president of the leading
  407. 14:08conservative think tank in the country.
  408. 14:10He's like George R.R. Martin saying,
  409. 14:12"I'm sorry I misspoke about medieval
  410. 14:14royal sibling I don't consume a
  411. 14:17lot of incest fantasy. Brother, you are
  412. 14:20the main reason we know what that is.
  413. 14:24And to be clear here, Nick Fuentes is
  414. 14:27famously a bigot. And while I admit he's
  415. 14:30also very much a troll, and you may have
  416. 14:32seen clips online of him where he comes
  417. 14:34across as an edge lord just trying to
  418. 14:36shock, it is worth seeing what he's like
  419. 14:38when the mask fully comes off because
  420. 14:40it's truly heinous.
  421. 14:42>> You know who built everything? Planes,
  422. 14:44railroads, cars, the radio, the
  423. 14:47telephone, the telegraph, whites,
  424. 14:49television, everything, whites.
  425. 14:53Jews are money changers,
  426. 14:56artists, psychopaths, charlatans,
  427. 14:59grifters, manipulators. Why do you think
  428. 15:01they're so obnoxious?
  429. 15:03Why do you think they're so
  430. 15:04obnoxious? They have no manners cuz they
  431. 15:06come from the third world. They come
  432. 15:07from the literal ghetto.
  433. 15:09>> Yeah, that's pretty unambiguous, isn't
  434. 15:11it? And it makes it all the more
  435. 15:12laughable that Tucker made such a show
  436. 15:15of offering Fuentes, a man who has
  437. 15:16literally spent thousands of hours on
  438. 15:18the internet saying whatever he wants,
  439. 15:20the chance to finally say what he
  440. 15:22thinks. You really didn't need to invite
  441. 15:24Fuentes to your antler dome to find out
  442. 15:26what makes him tick. Just Google him,
  443. 15:28you boat-shoe
  444. 15:30And the worrying thing is, it's not just
  445. 15:33Tucker. Fuentes has been inching closer
  446. 15:35and closer to mainstream Republicans
  447. 15:38over the years. Congressman Paul Gosar
  448. 15:39gave the keynote speech at Fuentes'
  449. 15:41America First Political Action in 2021,
  450. 15:44and Marjorie Taylor Greene did the same
  451. 15:46the following year. And I do have to
  452. 15:47tell you she later denied knowing who
  453. 15:50Fuentes was, as by the way did Donald
  454. 15:52Trump after he famously dined with him
  455. 15:54at Mar-a-Lago. Although I will note that
  456. 15:57the person who brought Fuentes to that
  457. 15:58dinner was Kanye West, who just a month
  458. 16:01earlier had tweeted he was going death
  459. 16:03con 3 on Jewish people. So, I GUESS
  460. 16:06TRUMP IS CLAIMING there that he only
  461. 16:08knew one of the anti-Semites at that
  462. 16:09dinner, WHICH TO BE CLEAR DOESN'T MAKE
  463. 16:11IT HALF OKAY.
  464. 16:14AND IN THE WAKE of that Tucker
  465. 16:15interview, Fuentes took a victory lap
  466. 16:17saying, "I am no longer the radical on
  467. 16:19the outside. I'm actually the leader on
  468. 16:22the inside." And on his show, he put the
  469. 16:24current situation in some pretty
  470. 16:26chilling terms.
  471. 16:27>> You can call me a Nazi. You better be
  472. 16:29careful.
  473. 16:31Because if I'm a Nazi, then there is
  474. 16:33millions of young people that are
  475. 16:35following a Nazi.
  476. 16:37>> Right.
  477. 16:39Yeah.
  478. 16:40No, that's the problem here.
  479. 16:43>> [laughter]
  480. 16:44>> Because Nazis getting in power doesn't
  481. 16:46historically bode well for anyone,
  482. 16:48including, for what it's worth, Nazis,
  483. 16:50who didn't exactly have the best 1945.
  484. 16:54JUST GO AHEAD and ask Grandpa Ludwig.
  485. 16:57And look, I don't know if Fuentes truly
  486. 16:59has millions of followers, or as they
  487. 17:02call themselves Groypers. He has an
  488. 17:04incentive to exaggerate his importance,
  489. 17:06and there's not a lot of data on how
  490. 17:07many Republicans support him
  491. 17:09specifically, but the glimpses aren't
  492. 17:11great. At CPAC this year, one young
  493. 17:13attendee said, "I'd say at least 60% of
  494. 17:16the young people here are fans of Nick."
  495. 17:18And Ted Cruz recently complained about
  496. 17:19their prevalence, saying it was
  497. 17:20difficult to avoid staffing them in his
  498. 17:22office, and that the Groyper problem is
  499. 17:24real. And data suggests many
  500. 17:26Republicans, especially younger ones,
  501. 17:28are getting a lot more comfortable with
  502. 17:30things like Holocaust denial. The
  503. 17:32right-leaning Manhattan Institute
  504. 17:34recently conducted a survey that found
  505. 17:35nearly four in 10 in the current GOP
  506. 17:38believe the Holocaust was greatly
  507. 17:39exaggerated, or did not happen as
  508. 17:41historians describe, with that number
  509. 17:43jumping to 54% among men under 50. And a
  510. 17:47focus group they ran of Gen Z
  511. 17:48Republicans offered up some alarming
  512. 17:50opinions, like when they responded to
  513. 17:51the question, "What do you think of
  514. 17:53Adolf Hitler?" with, "I think he was a
  515. 17:54great leader, to be honest. I think what
  516. 17:56he was going for was terrible, but I
  517. 17:58think he showed very strong leadership
  518. 18:00values." Which is a real compliment
  519. 18:02sandwich there, isn't it?
  520. 18:04Critical, while constructive. If I was
  521. 18:06Hitler, and to be clear, I'm very much
  522. 18:08not,
  523. 18:09I'd be pretty happy with that feedback
  524. 18:11from a manager who cares.
  525. 18:13That focus group also asked, "What do
  526. 18:15you think of Jewish people?" and one
  527. 18:16respondent said, "I would say a force
  528. 18:18for evil." And remember, that is what
  529. 18:20they were willing to say on the record.
  530. 18:23Behind closed doors, it unsurprisingly
  531. 18:25gets even worse.
  532. 18:26>> New fallout tonight from a racist and
  533. 18:29violent group chat involving leaders of
  534. 18:31some young Republican groups. The chat
  535. 18:33includes anti-Semitic comments and
  536. 18:36racial slurs against black, Latino,
  537. 18:38Asian people, and other epithets used
  538. 18:40more than 250 times, according to
  539. 18:43Politico. The outlet says one person,
  540. 18:45after being told backers would support
  541. 18:47the most right-wing candidate for a
  542. 18:48leadership role, responded, "Great. I
  543. 18:51love Hitler." At another point, someone
  544. 18:53writes, "If we ever had a leak of this
  545. 18:55chat, we would be cooked."
  546. 18:57>> Yeah.
  547. 18:58You probably would. And guess what,
  548. 19:00guys? Here we are.
  549. 19:03There was some nasty stuff in that chat
  550. 19:05with one member repeatedly using the
  551. 19:06N-word, and another referring to black
  552. 19:08people with these slurs that I'm going
  553. 19:10to take a hard pass on saying out loud.
  554. 19:12And that wasn't even the only group chat
  555. 19:14that got leaked. Another one among
  556. 19:16campus Republicans in Florida was also
  557. 19:18full of racist slurs. Now, at one point,
  558. 19:20was named Gooning in Agartha, with
  559. 19:22Agartha being a reference to a mythical
  560. 19:24white civilization promoted by Heinrich
  561. 19:25Himmler, and Gooning being a reference
  562. 19:27to, you know what? Look that one up
  563. 19:29yourself.
  564. 19:30I will let that be a fun surprise for
  565. 19:32you. And look, there are some who will
  566. 19:35say, "Look, calm down. This seems to be
  567. 19:37just a bunch of kids and shitty
  568. 19:39streamers. You can just ignore it." But
  569. 19:41let's take those one at a time, shall
  570. 19:43we? Starting with it's just kids. That's
  571. 19:45actually something J.D. Vance has tried
  572. 19:47to argue when he was asked about that
  573. 19:49group chat with over 250 slurs in it.
  574. 19:51And he said this.
  575. 19:53>> The reality is that kids do stupid
  576. 19:55things, especially young boys. They tell
  577. 19:58edgy, offensive jokes. Like, that's what
  578. 20:01kids do. And I really don't want us to
  579. 20:03grow up in a country where a kid telling
  580. 20:05a stupid joke, telling a very offensive,
  581. 20:08stupid joke is cause to ruin their
  582. 20:10lives.
  583. 20:11>> Okay, first, set aside that that's a
  584. 20:13wildly forgiving attitude coming from
  585. 20:15the VP of an administration that, as we
  586. 20:17have discussed repeatedly before, has
  587. 20:19gone ape over any perceived
  588. 20:21anti-Semitism on college campuses. But
  589. 20:22in the abstract there,
  590. 20:24I guess I agree that kids should be able
  591. 20:27to make mistakes without it ruining
  592. 20:28their lives. But, it feels important to
  593. 20:31mention that people in those chats
  594. 20:33weren't actually kids so much as
  595. 20:35full-grown adults in their 20s and 30s.
  596. 20:37In fact, the guy who posted those
  597. 20:40heinous slurs was 31, one of the least
  598. 20:43cute ages. There are no
  599. 20:4531-year-old scamps.
  600. 20:47One of our writers is 31, and she's so
  601. 20:50annoying.
  602. 20:52Meanwhile, another member of the chat
  603. 20:54was actually in the Vermont state
  604. 20:56legislature at the time, and yet another
  605. 20:58had apparently been in line to manage
  606. 21:00Republican Peter Oberacker's campaign
  607. 21:01for Congress before the chats came out.
  608. 21:03And if the name Oberacker is ringing a
  609. 21:05bell at all for you, it's because he's
  610. 21:07the guy who "Thank you for your service"
  611. 21:10his dear departed grandpa Nazi on
  612. 21:12Veteran's Day.
  613. 21:13Now, I should say those three not
  614. 21:16remotely young boys
  615. 21:17have since either apologized or claimed
  616. 21:19that their posts were just jokes. And
  617. 21:21okay,
  618. 21:22but what that all shows is that in
  619. 21:24politics, people in their 20s and 30s
  620. 21:26can rise fast. The distance between
  621. 21:29college Republican and communications
  622. 21:31director can be just a couple of years.
  623. 21:33Now, as for the whole "They're just
  624. 21:35shitty streamers" argument, these days
  625. 21:38streamers can be a lot closer to the
  626. 21:39center of power than you might think.
  627. 21:41For instance, here's one named Stu
  628. 21:42Peters bragging about how he's been able
  629. 21:44to J pill his audience, an antisemitic
  630. 21:46term for showing them a line influence
  631. 21:48of Jews. Now, I warn you, this next
  632. 21:50video sucks pretty hard, but if you
  633. 21:52stick with it, you do get to see him
  634. 21:54take some increasingly wild swings.
  635. 21:57>> As everybody knows, the Stu Peters Show
  636. 21:58and this network broadly have been and
  637. 22:01still are to this day at the forefront
  638. 22:03of J pilling the American people. If
  639. 22:05societal ills were a bunch of stones in
  640. 22:07the middle of a field somewhere, and all
  641. 22:09of us got together walking around
  642. 22:10turning up the stones to see what's
  643. 22:12underneath them,
  644. 22:13under every single one of these stones,
  645. 22:15you would find a little Jew man rubbing
  646. 22:17his hands, smirking, wearing his tiny
  647. 22:19hat, trying to get over on the
  648. 22:23Trying to kill the When it really
  649. 22:25comes down to it. Just think of all that
  650. 22:27these people are responsible for. Usury,
  651. 22:29central banking, communism,
  652. 22:31Bolshevik communism, the Holodomor, the
  653. 22:34transatlantic slave trade,
  654. 22:35transgenderism,
  655. 22:37>> [laughter]
  656. 22:38>> the normalization of homosexuality, the
  657. 22:40normalization of pedophilia,
  658. 22:41transgenderism for kids, open borders,
  659. 22:43white replacement, white genocide, the
  660. 22:46Hebrew immigrant aid society, AIPAC, the
  661. 22:48assassination of President John F.
  662. 22:50Kennedy, the assassination of Charlie
  663. 22:51Kirk, abortion,
  664. 22:54which is just a modern-day Molochian
  665. 22:56sacrifice ritual.
  666. 22:57>> I mean,
  667. 22:59I'll say this, that man is thorough.
  668. 23:02The problem [laughter] is, THAT SOUNDS
  669. 23:04LESS LIKE A COHERENT CONSPIRACY, more
  670. 23:05like what Alex Jones would say after
  671. 23:07being kicked in the head by a horse.
  672. 23:10And well, I KNOW THAT GUY sounds
  673. 23:12completely insane. What's even crazier
  674. 23:15is guests on his show have included
  675. 23:17these three sitting Republican
  676. 23:19congressmen, Kari Lake, [snorts] and oh
  677. 23:20yeah, THE DIRECTOR OF THE FBI,
  678. 23:23KASH PATEL, who appeared on Peter's show
  679. 23:26eight times from 2021 to 2022. And look,
  680. 23:29maybe they all actually like Stu Peters.
  681. 23:32Or maybe they just thought that they
  682. 23:34could pretend to in order to keep his
  683. 23:36audience aligned with their party. And
  684. 23:37you may be thinking, what's the real
  685. 23:39difference there? To which I'd say, for
  686. 23:40sure.
  687. 23:42Because here's the thing, while Karl
  688. 23:44Rove might want to pretend this is some
  689. 23:46anomaly in a party lovingly handcrafted
  690. 23:49over the years to be inclusive and
  691. 23:51welcoming, that is some deeply
  692. 23:53revisionist horse The far-right
  693. 23:55fringe currently rising up in his party
  694. 23:57is not remotely new. From the John Birch
  695. 23:59Society through Barry Goldwater and Pat
  696. 24:01Buchanan, the Republican Party has
  697. 24:03always left its door ajar for bigots,
  698. 24:05cranks, and conspiracy theorists. Have
  699. 24:07you ever listened to the Nixon tapes?
  700. 24:09They would do numbers on Rumble today.
  701. 24:12Sponsored by who else BUT VANDY POTATO
  702. 24:15CHIPS.
  703. 24:16The chip for the truly discriminating
  704. 24:18consumer.
  705. 24:20Anyway, the party's big tent philosophy,
  706. 24:22sometimes summed up as no enemies to the
  707. 24:25right, has long meant it's been
  708. 24:26reluctant to fully disavow someone for
  709. 24:28being too extreme. And while gatekeepers
  710. 24:30in conservative media used to be able to
  711. 24:32keep the racist dog whistles just below
  712. 24:34audible levels, thanks to the rise of
  713. 24:37the internet, right-wing influencers
  714. 24:38like these two are now fully off leash
  715. 24:41with every incentive to get more
  716. 24:42outrageous in order to draw more
  717. 24:44eyeballs that they can then monetize.
  718. 24:46And that brings us to our second
  719. 24:48question, what are Republicans trying to
  720. 24:50do about it? Well, the truth is, as
  721. 24:52little as they think they can get away
  722. 24:54with. Because the rise of the online
  723. 24:56right was one of the key things that
  724. 24:57helped push Trump into the White House a
  725. 24:59decade ago. And at the time, a lot of
  726. 25:02establishment conservatives went out of
  727. 25:04their way to overlook the fact their
  728. 25:06candidate had just been endorsed by
  729. 25:08David Duke and had the support of the
  730. 25:10literal Ku Klux Klan. It's worth
  731. 25:12remembering that Trump himself was asked
  732. 25:14about the fact that he had David Duke's
  733. 25:16support, and this was his response.
  734. 25:18>> Will you unequivocally condemn David
  735. 25:20Duke and say that you don't want his
  736. 25:22vote or that of other white supremacists
  737. 25:24in this election?
  738. 25:26>> Well, just so you understand, I don't
  739. 25:28know anything about David Duke, okay? I
  740. 25:30don't know anything about what you're
  741. 25:31even talking about with uh white
  742. 25:33supremacy or white supremacist.
  743. 25:35Honestly, I don't know David Duke. I
  744. 25:36don't believe I've ever met him. I'm
  745. 25:38pretty sure I didn't meet him, and I
  746. 25:39just don't know anything about him.
  747. 25:41>> Yeah, after you get over the initial
  748. 25:43shock there of seeing a glowing,
  749. 25:45baby-faced Trump
  750. 25:47who's able to speak without sounding
  751. 25:49like he has an extra couple of flaps in
  752. 25:50his throat,
  753. 25:52you have time to process what a truly
  754. 25:54terrible answer that was and what under
  755. 25:56pressure, he did eventually disavow
  756. 25:58Duke. He and other leading conservatives
  757. 26:00still seem compelled to try and have it
  758. 26:02both ways. In fact, at the height of the
  759. 26:04controversy over Tucker Carlson's
  760. 26:06interview at a Turning Point USA
  761. 26:07conference, Ben Shapiro, most annoying
  762. 26:10boy emeritus,
  763. 26:12called Fuentes a Hitler apologist,
  764. 26:13Nazi-loving, anti-American piece of
  765. 26:15refuse and called Tucker interviewing
  766. 26:17him an act of moral imbecility. But when
  767. 26:20J.D. Vance took the stage, he very
  768. 26:22pointedly said, "I didn't bring a list
  769. 26:24of conservatives to denounce or
  770. 26:25deplatform." And he got pretty
  771. 26:27sanctimonious about it.
  772. 26:28>> President Trump did not build the
  773. 26:31greatest coalition in politics by
  774. 26:33running his supporters through endless
  775. 26:36self-defeating purity tests. We have far
  776. 26:39more important work to do than canceling
  777. 26:41each other. We have got to build, and
  778. 26:43President Donald Trump is a builder.
  779. 26:46>> Okay, I'll say this. No one takes a
  780. 26:48stand about not taking a stand quite
  781. 26:50like J.D. Vance. You know what? Given a
  782. 26:53choice between Nazis and non-Nazis, let
  783. 26:56me unequivocally state, boldly and
  784. 26:58clearly, that I would like to talk about
  785. 27:01something else, please.
  786. 27:03And well, to be fair, Vance has publicly
  787. 27:06condemned anti-Semitism, and when asked
  788. 27:08directly, has condemned Fuentes, even
  789. 27:10saying at one point he could eat
  790. 27:12It is noticeable the extent to which
  791. 27:15he's paired that condemnation with
  792. 27:16attacks on affirmative action or
  793. 27:18immigration, issues where he and Fuentes
  794. 27:20have some common ground. At one point,
  795. 27:22he even told an interviewer, "If you
  796. 27:24believe racism is bad, Fuentes should
  797. 27:26occupy 1 second of your focus. And the
  798. 27:29people with actual political power, who
  799. 27:30work so hard to discriminate against
  800. 27:32white men, should occupy many hours of
  801. 27:35it." In fact, in that Turning Point
  802. 27:37speech, he had some notable lines that
  803. 27:39really wouldn't feel out of place in a
  804. 27:41Fuentes rant, from mocking Soros DAs and
  805. 27:44Jasmine Crockett's street girl persona,
  806. 27:46to telling this fun joke.
  807. 27:49>> Omar Fateh was Ilhan Omar's candidate
  808. 27:52for mayor of Mogadishu. What?
  809. 27:55I mean, Minneapolis.
  810. 27:58Little Freudian slip there.
  811. 27:59>> What a Oh, sorry.
  812. 28:02Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Little [cheering]
  813. 28:05little Freudian slip there.
  814. 28:07What a
  815. 28:10It's no wonder Fuentes himself has said,
  816. 28:13"J.D. Vance panders to the far right,
  817. 28:16but simply doesn't want the baggage of
  818. 28:18associating with the far right." And
  819. 28:19it's not just Vance trying to have it
  820. 28:22both ways. A year after Kevin Roberts
  821. 28:24finally condemned that Fuentes-Carson
  822. 28:26interview, he attended a National
  823. 28:27Conservatism conference, where he
  824. 28:29noticeably declined to even say their
  825. 28:31names, instead proposing a different
  826. 28:33approach.
  827. 28:34>> I'm sometimes asked
  828. 28:36about one or two
  829. 28:38of these podcasters in particular.
  830. 28:42Let me say here
  831. 28:44that as idiotic and absurd as their
  832. 28:47rhetoric and conspiracy theories can be
  833. 28:50that they are irrelevant.
  834. 28:52Irrelevant
  835. 28:54to the conservative coalition we are
  836. 28:56building in America.
  837. 29:03What I've learned is that the worst
  838. 29:05thing you can do is to engage with them
  839. 29:07because speaking as a parent of four,
  840. 29:10when you have a toddler who's
  841. 29:11misbehaving, you just need to ignore
  842. 29:14them.
  843. 29:15>> Okay. I mean
  844. 29:17that's pretty bad parenting advice in
  845. 29:19general.
  846. 29:21But it also isn't remotely applicable
  847. 29:22here. If your toddler's throwing a
  848. 29:24tantrum because you made pasta in the
  849. 29:26wrong shape, sure, ignore it. Parent how
  850. 29:28you want. But if your toddler hosts a
  851. 29:30full hour podcast in which he discusses
  852. 29:33his favorite Himmler deep cut, I'd think
  853. 29:36about maybe intervening.
  854. 29:38Anyway, I am very sorry for Kevin
  855. 29:40Roberts' kids, but congrats to their
  856. 29:41therapist, I guess. It's not often that
  857. 29:43you have game tape to analyze during a
  858. 29:45session.
  859. 29:47But as much as Roberts might want to
  860. 29:49pretend that these figures and their
  861. 29:50views are irrelevant to his party or or
  862. 29:52Vance might insist that they only
  863. 29:54deserve a second of attention. That is a
  864. 29:57hard case to make given how prevalent
  865. 29:59some of this extremism now is because
  866. 30:01it's not just the candidates you've
  867. 30:02already seen. Ohio Senator J.D. Vance
  868. 30:05recently fired his 25-year-old political
  869. 30:06director for using Nazi soldiers as his
  870. 30:09profile photo. And Georgia's Republican
  871. 30:11candidate for Senate, Mike Collins, has
  872. 30:13come under heavy criticism for having
  873. 30:15multiple ties to white nationalists,
  874. 30:17including, by the way, his own
  875. 30:18son-in-law who is apparently a pro-white
  876. 30:21nationalist and social media influencer.
  877. 30:24And if you are thinking that that sounds
  878. 30:25like a pretty unhinged combo, you'd be
  879. 30:28right about that. As scrolling through
  880. 30:29his content, you quickly go from posts
  881. 30:31like why you should eat red meat through
  882. 30:34you must stop watching porn and dealing
  883. 30:37with loneliness. Quick side note, the
  884. 30:39hat's probably not helping there.
  885. 30:42Just stuff like this Telegram post whose
  886. 30:45caption explains that it contains,
  887. 30:46quote, all of the proof Jews control our
  888. 30:48government through finance, which he
  889. 30:50said my wife made, who you'll remember
  890. 30:52is Mike Collins' own daughter. And if
  891. 30:54you're thinking, well, that is just his
  892. 30:56kid, you should know Collins' former
  893. 30:57chief of staff was on a group chat with
  894. 30:59famous white nationalists including Nick
  895. 31:01Fuentes and Richard Spencer. And Collins
  896. 31:04himself once responded to an
  897. 31:05anti-Semitic Twitter account that said
  898. 31:07of a Washington Post reporter, in case
  899. 31:09you were wondering, yes, she is, meaning
  900. 31:11Jewish, with never was a second thought.
  901. 31:15And while Collins has completely denied
  902. 31:16any anti-Semitic intent saying, you'll
  903. 31:18just see stuff that ain't there. ARE YOU
  904. 31:20SURE ABOUT THAT, MIKE? CUZ IT SURE feels
  905. 31:23like there's a lot there to see.
  906. 31:26And it's not just Collins. There are
  907. 31:28other worrying candidates further down
  908. 31:29ballot like Marshall Watson, who's
  909. 31:31currently running for Florida State
  910. 31:32House. He attended the Charlottesville
  911. 31:34Unite the Right rally and marched with
  912. 31:37the League of the South, the racist and
  913. 31:38anti-Semitic neo-Confederate group. And
  914. 31:40while he's since tried to downplay that
  915. 31:42saying, quote, we arrived late on the
  916. 31:43second day after the march. Not only is
  917. 31:47that in no way exonerating,
  918. 31:50I'll point out that once he did show up,
  919. 31:52this video shows him getting a pretty
  920. 31:54warm welcome.
  921. 31:57>> Marshall's finally here.
  922. 31:58>> Hey.
  923. 31:59>> It's so good to see y'all.
  924. 32:01>> What's up, brother?
  925. 32:02>> Hey, man.
  926. 32:02>> Ah.
  927. 32:03>> Mike.
  928. 32:03>> Yes, sir.
  929. 32:04>> How you doing, Mr. Watson?
  930. 32:07>> Hey, man.
  931. 32:09>> Yeah, they seemed pretty happy to see
  932. 32:11old Marshall there. And while it went by
  933. 32:13kind of fast, it is worth noting that
  934. 32:15that friendly exchange took place right
  935. 32:17next to a swastika flag. And if you have
  936. 32:19a conversation right next to a swastika
  937. 32:22flag THAT DOES NOT BEGIN, HEY, THE
  938. 32:25IS THAT SWASTIKA FLAG DOING HERE?
  939. 32:27I feel like that's already a pretty good
  940. 32:30tell.
  941. 32:31And it gets even worse because Watson
  942. 32:33later stood among the marchers at the
  943. 32:34rally. That is him right there. And that
  944. 32:36is the guy who not long after killed a
  945. 32:39counter-demonstrator with his car. So,
  946. 32:41condemning Rawson should be the lowest
  947. 32:43possible bar to clear. And yet, when a
  948. 32:46reporter asked 28 Florida Republicans,
  949. 32:48many of whom had endorsed Rawson, if any
  950. 32:51of this changed their mind about him,
  951. 32:53only three even bothered to respond.
  952. 32:55With one, Byron Donald, sending back a
  953. 32:57boilerplate condemnation of racism
  954. 32:59generally without mentioning Rawson by
  955. 33:01name, and the other two actually
  956. 33:03standing by him. The point here is,
  957. 33:05far-right views in the Republican Party
  958. 33:07are by no means irrelevant. And they are
  959. 33:10way past the point of being ignorable.
  960. 33:12Some of them are literally on the ballot
  961. 33:14in 9 days. In an election, by the way,
  962. 33:17where the single biggest campaign
  963. 33:18spender is this guy, you know,
  964. 33:21of the Adolf Aloha way.
  965. 33:24And some long-time members of far-right
  966. 33:26movements seem fully aware of these
  967. 33:28developments. In fact, when Jared
  968. 33:29Taylor, the founder of the white
  969. 33:31nationalist New Century Foundation, was
  970. 33:33recently invited to speak at a Maryland
  971. 33:34university, he recorded a video
  972. 33:36afterwards in which he both shouted out
  973. 33:38the guy that invited him there, Colin
  974. 33:40McEvoy, who's running for the state
  975. 33:41legislature, by the way, under the
  976. 33:43slogan, "It's time to fight for our
  977. 33:45home." And pointed to the larger shift
  978. 33:47that he saw underway.
  979. 33:49>> The Republican Party is, in effect, the
  980. 33:52party of white people.
  981. 33:54Look at a Trump rally.
  982. 33:55It might as well be a meeting of the
  983. 33:57Sons and Daughters of the Confederacy.
  984. 33:59There's a big difference between old
  985. 34:00Republicans and young Republicans. I can
  986. 34:03go to a meeting of old Republicans and
  987. 34:06no one knows who I am.
  988. 34:08Young Republicans treat me like a hero.
  989. 34:11And even a few old Republicans are
  990. 34:13beginning to see the light. Voters will
  991. 34:15decide in November how well they like
  992. 34:17Marshall Rawson, Bo French, and Colin
  993. 34:20McEvoy. And to all you Republicans who
  994. 34:23know what's at stake, your time to stand
  995. 34:26up for your people may come sooner than
  996. 34:29you think.
  997. 34:30>> Oh, I don't like anything about that.
  998. 34:34I don't like the way he pronounced the
  999. 34:35word "white".
  1000. 34:38I especially don't like it coming out of
  1001. 34:39the mouth of a man who looks like Carl
  1002. 34:41from Up if he went down some dark paths
  1003. 34:44after Ellie died.
  1004. 34:46The one thing I'll agree with him about
  1005. 34:48there is that the time for choosing is
  1006. 34:50here. Some of the candidates you've seen
  1007. 34:52tonight, whether they are running for
  1008. 34:53the first time or are up for re-election
  1009. 34:55or a new job, are currently favored to
  1010. 34:57win.
  1011. 34:58But even if they all lose, and I hope
  1012. 35:00they do,
  1013. 35:02the party that put them on the ballot
  1014. 35:04still has to reckon with how it got to
  1015. 35:06this point. And while I'm sure
  1016. 35:08mainstream Republicans will keep trying
  1017. 35:10to dodge this issue, many are clearly
  1018. 35:12betting they'll be able to make it
  1019. 35:13through the midterms without having to
  1020. 35:15take a principled stand that could lose
  1021. 35:17them a single vote. Make no mistake,
  1022. 35:20this party is at a crossroads right now.
  1023. 35:22Their current leader Their current
  1024. 35:24leader is by the standards of both the
  1025. 35:25Constitution and even the most generous
  1026. 35:28cardiologist on his way out.
  1027. 35:31And the next iteration of this party is
  1028. 35:34currently being decided amid a rising
  1029. 35:36chorus of white nationalist, open
  1030. 35:38neo-Nazis, and bigots.
  1031. 35:40And while I know that is a pretty ugly
  1032. 35:42picture to paint of their party, if
  1033. 35:44Republicans are not willing to actually
  1034. 35:46stand up and do something about it, then
  1035. 35:48I'm afraid, much like a certain
  1036. 35:50politician running in upstate New York,
  1037. 35:52it might soon be the only picture of it
  1038. 35:55they have left.

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