The Real Story of Sour Diesel: Its Creation, Name, and Sudden Disappearance / AJ Sour Diesel — Transcript
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- 0:00starting at around 200 like 8 or
- 0:039 UM New York just started getting
- 0:07hammered with weed from California yeah
- 0:11and Growers who grew sour had come to
- 0:15expected they were going to get paid at
- 0:17least $6,000 a pound but when there was
- 0:20like indoor weed all over New York City
- 0:23for 2500 a
- 0:25[Music]
- 0:28pound welcome to stage one podcast stoop
- 0:32to store Legacy to
- 0:35legal here with my man Jason
- 0:38lrx Scotty Knox what up and the man
- 0:42himself AJ Sour Diesel hello and we are
- 0:46here to talk about this product I mean
- 0:49just in general New York cannabis and
- 0:52how far we've come and the importance of
- 0:56Sour Diesel as a strain in New York
- 0:58cannabis and uh from like a long time
- 1:02ago before it was legal and
- 1:04um just ask the guy who brought this
- 1:08who's like known as The Man Behind this
- 1:11this uh this myth of a of a plant that
- 1:14we've all been chasing for the last
- 1:16decade and now he's bringing it back to
- 1:18the market with flowerhouse so thank you
- 1:21very much uh for joining us AJ we really
- 1:24appreciate you being here it's is
- 1:27amazing yeah and um so let's uh just
- 1:31want to start out by asking you about
- 1:33the importance of Lark Street cuz we
- 1:36talked a little bit uh before the show
- 1:38about that and I so I really kind of
- 1:40want to dive into the importance of Lark
- 1:42Street cuz I'm from Lark Street so when
- 1:43you mention that that that uh Sour
- 1:47Diesel uh and lar Street I have a link I
- 1:50was very like it pequ my interest I'm
- 1:51like oh man I need to hear about this so
- 1:54uh any any uh you want to care to
- 1:55elaborate on that for me uh well yeah
- 1:58sure um
- 2:00I guess back in like
- 2:031992 um a couple friends of mine uh and
- 2:08I were living in the city and
- 2:12um and occasionally we would come up to
- 2:15Albany to see you know fish concerts at
- 2:18the palace or something like that you
- 2:20know and uh and so I think '92 or n or
- 2:25maybe it was early 93 fish was playing
- 2:29like a two night run at the palace and
- 2:32so my friend Colin said he knew these
- 2:37guys who lived in Albany and that they'd
- 2:39be at the show and that we could stay at
- 2:41their house you know so we could take
- 2:42the train up here or drive or whatever
- 2:45we did but like we wouldn't have to go
- 2:47all the way back down to the city we
- 2:49could stay up here so that was the first
- 2:52time I met uh uh the Albany crew guys
- 2:57and uh and they had an apartment on L
- 3:00Street and so I met those guys after the
- 3:04fish show uh the first night and I
- 3:07stayed at their house on Lark Street and
- 3:11eventually you know I would get to know
- 3:14those guys real well cuz they would come
- 3:15down to the city I would I was always
- 3:18finding good weed in the city so I would
- 3:20like uh uh hook them up with head nugs
- 3:24sometimes you know they'd come they'd
- 3:25always stop and see me if they were in
- 3:27in New York and um yeah and and and then
- 3:31eventually uh uh they became like a
- 3:34group of guys that I hung out with on um
- 3:37on Grateful Dead tour you know
- 3:41throughout the next uh uh two years and
- 3:44it was really like during that time that
- 3:48um
- 3:49that I was hang I started hanging out
- 3:52with those guys that
- 3:54like that not only was getting like good
- 3:56weed so important but it was like super
- 3:59competitive
- 4:00like to like always like Flex and be
- 4:03like yo I got you know like whoever
- 4:05everybody R to it we didn't have the
- 4:08Cannabis Cup all right it's like if
- 4:10you're all at my apartment I won first
- 4:12place you know so um so we all kind of
- 4:16like we through our communally we placed
- 4:20an even higher value on good weed to the
- 4:23point where it became the most important
- 4:25thing in our in all of our Lives was
- 4:28like getting that good weed yeah and so
- 4:31um and so yeah it kind of like uh a huge
- 4:36part of the story is like getting
- 4:38together with the guys on L Street and
- 4:40that's awesome they were [ __ ] weed
- 4:41Maniacs like we thought we were like
- 4:43crazy but they were like you know
- 4:45obsessed with weed you know they spend
- 4:47their last [ __ ] Dollar on on weed and
- 4:50uh and so yeah it was kind of infectious
- 4:53when we all got together cuz we we were
- 4:55all weed dealers and and we were all
- 4:58hunting down the best the best phenomes
- 5:00right the best yeah um now correct me if
- 5:04I'm wrong um those guys got it from a
- 5:06bag seed of chem dog right true and uh
- 5:09came from some guy named weasel correct
- 5:12is that true no it it was all it's like
- 5:16it's so funny it's like uh I'm telling
- 5:18you it's like that us getting together
- 5:20with the L Street guys really did like
- 5:22create a monster
- 5:25because I met um I met JJ from Top Dog
- 5:31uh in wetlands in like 1992 when I was a
- 5:34I was what in ' 92 I was 19 right and he
- 5:37and and he was about 10 years older than
- 5:39me and he had good weed so I kept buying
- 5:42weed from them weed from from JJ and
- 5:44then eventually I met Mike klopp who was
- 5:47one of JJ's plugs uh at a nightclub in
- 5:52New York and so then I started getting
- 5:55Cham dog from uh from Mike Klo and then
- 5:59I get the chem dog and then I would call
- 6:00the Albany kids and I didn't even make
- 6:03money off them right for me it was like
- 6:05I just want I just want that I want to
- 6:07be like yo come on
- 6:08over diesel so so cuz so uh so
- 6:14basically uh you know they started
- 6:17coming to see me every time I got the
- 6:19they they get in their cars drive from
- 6:20from Albany down to New York City yeah
- 6:23the second I I said it's here so um I
- 6:26remember those days man so uh so so um I
- 6:31was in in
- 6:331994 I was spending the
- 6:36summer living in Amsterdam and
- 6:40so uh one of the Albany kids was like
- 6:44fing for the diesel so he decided that
- 6:48he was going to go down to the same
- 6:50nightclub cuz you know I told him I met
- 6:52this guy at the club so he went down to
- 6:55the same club which is wetlands and um
- 6:58and he just staked that place out and he
- 7:02shook that place out until eventually he
- 7:04found the guy and once that happened
- 7:08then he started getting you know Diesel
- 7:10from him too at first it was like me and
- 7:12JJ fighting over it and now this dude
- 7:15now this dude uh V now he's getting it
- 7:17too so we're like oh why you going to
- 7:19give him any you know and uh and so we
- 7:22uh we so competitive and uh yeah yeah
- 7:26and so um when I got back from Amsterdam
- 7:29I had a friend who had diplomatic
- 7:31immunity so I mailed him a kilo from
- 7:33Amsterdam so when I got back it was
- 7:36waiting for me and so uh you know I was
- 7:39running around with a kilo of really
- 7:41good weed that I bought I found there
- 7:43and and and I saw Mike CL the weasel
- 7:47right uh in Central Park and and I
- 7:49showed it to him and i' just gotten back
- 7:51from living there and I'm like oh damn
- 7:53you should go there it's so great man I
- 7:55you know and he was asking about seeds
- 7:57and what strains and how what he could
- 8:00acquire there potentially and I was like
- 8:02dude you just got to go there and check
- 8:03it out so he flew to Amsterdam a couple
- 8:06days later and came back with a whole
- 8:08slew of seeds and um and
- 8:13so yeah there's like you know maybe like
- 8:16five or six you know
- 8:19potential fathers of the seeds that got
- 8:22out to me that got out to uh
- 8:25V and uh and another guy uh who were
- 8:29living up here and so we all we all
- 8:32automatically were like well we got to
- 8:33start growing weed now because we need
- 8:35to have as much diesel as possible so we
- 8:37all went out and got grow lights and
- 8:39started growing weed just because we had
- 8:41these seeds and um and so I I had one
- 8:47seed that I started growing and I you
- 8:49know in like a dman building in
- 8:51Manhattan and then uh and then where I
- 8:55was living and then uh V and uh uh and M
- 9:00up in uh who were living who had rented
- 9:02a house and moved from Albany to the
- 9:05Catskills uh to build a grow they were
- 9:09growing uh their plants which were they
- 9:12were calling diesel one and Diesel
- 9:142 and
- 9:16um and uh when you talk to them they
- 9:20think you know they they think diesel
- 9:24two pollinated diesel one despite that
- 9:27they were both females because diesel 2
- 9:30had a couple tendency to make uh male
- 9:32flowers and it was from a diesel one
- 9:36Harvest somewhere in the cat skills that
- 9:39uh I think it might have been
- 9:41Windam uh Windham or tannerville
- 9:46uh a couple or two or three other seeds
- 9:50were born and it was one of those seeds
- 9:52that became the sour diesel which
- 9:54planted in sked which was planted in
- 9:58SKC yeah for real that's where
- 10:02he you know mountains connected right so
- 10:06when like the when the city and uh
- 10:08Upstate connect it's
- 10:10it's York New York State seriously I
- 10:13have a question for you kind of related
- 10:15to what we were just talking about how
- 10:17did you come up with the name Sour
- 10:22Diesel
- 10:24well we used to sell there used to be
- 10:28this guy Larry
- 10:30who owned Wetlands right and we all we
- 10:33worked me and my friends we worked in
- 10:35the Echo office downstairs so we knew
- 10:37Larry our office was right next to his
- 10:41and uh and
- 10:43so um you
- 10:46know one of us sold Larry some weed one
- 10:49time and uh and it was it wasn't even
- 10:53cam dog it was like something else but
- 10:55he was like yo you know cuz he had never
- 10:58smoked weed that tasted good and like
- 11:00you know that like worked really like
- 11:03that well and so he he started like
- 11:06getting all crazy and warning us that
- 11:07like we're smoking laced weed and we got
- 11:09to stop and go cuz it was it was laced
- 11:13with Tarpin it was like but he just like
- 11:16never smoked smoked before we knew our
- 11:19weed wasn't Lac so so
- 11:22um so it just made me nervous like
- 11:26because I'd gotten that reaction from
- 11:28other people before people weren't aware
- 11:30of like you know like good quality weed
- 11:35and what it's actually supposed to be
- 11:37like they their whole concept of it was
- 11:40like Mexican weed early 9s yeah and then
- 11:44colan mids breed up seaweed too that if
- 11:48they were lucky then you know you
- 11:50probably didn't even see B seaweed
- 11:51unless you already knew what weed looked
- 11:53like you know so true so um so we we I I
- 11:57decided to call it the diesel because I
- 12:00just didn't want
- 12:02to it was such a good thing and I didn't
- 12:05want it to be spoiled by the fact that
- 12:06it had the word cam in it cuz people
- 12:08thought that like chemicals people were
- 12:11treating weed with chemicals that's what
- 12:13when I say GMO well that's there's
- 12:15people in the dispensary here about GMO
- 12:17they're like wait yeah I'm not too sure
- 12:18about that yeah I'm like no it's the
- 12:20name of the Str the name of the garlic
- 12:23mushroom onions and then they're like oh
- 12:25okay so um so I changed it to the diesel
- 12:29so we called all the iterations that
- 12:31came out of chem dog diesel because
- 12:35people were like fanatical and crazy
- 12:37they're like I want the diesel I want
- 12:38the diesel so you know you didn't bother
- 12:41explaining this is a seed of the diesel
- 12:43you're like does it have that gas smell
- 12:45this is the diesel yeah that's what I
- 12:47want so we I called it the diesel and um
- 12:51it was the Albany kids who um when the
- 12:54one one of the Albany kids used an a
- 12:57bucket allegedly I wasn't there that had
- 12:59a number five on it and it had been
- 13:03labeled uh uh our diesel because it was
- 13:07like the two guys from the can skills it
- 13:09was there this is our diesel CU we made
- 13:13these seeds from diesel 2 and Diesel one
- 13:16right so so this is our Diesel and so so
- 13:19but someone who was visiting the grow
- 13:21saw that there was like a five on the
- 13:24bucket and that said hour diesel and the
- 13:26guy said what's Sour Diesel
- 13:29and that's literally how that's how it
- 13:31was made aming I was and I wasn't there
- 13:34but that's but that's you that's the
- 13:36firsthand story of how it all play out W
- 13:39so it's really sour with the five it's
- 13:41hour yeah the sour with the five that's
- 13:44sick that's super dope man but it's just
- 13:49but like it was the perfect name cuz it
- 13:51did make everyone sour it spoiled
- 13:54relationships it made people everyone
- 13:57was mad at every the sour the sour it's
- 14:01like oh you gave my you gave this guy
- 14:03sour you didn't give me any it's so
- 14:05funny that the sour sour is like that
- 14:08has that side of it and then there's
- 14:09like the the debate of like sour or Haze
- 14:13for New York strains it's like one of
- 14:15the top New York strains legendary of
- 14:17all time and you have Like Rappers
- 14:19debating like is sour what's the best
- 14:23one sour or Haze you know it's and and
- 14:25it's like it's always in the top it's
- 14:27all fun Gam they love sour and Haze the
- 14:31real war is like between like sour and
- 14:34hay and OG exact and everybody loves it
- 14:38all and nobody's hating on any of it
- 14:40it's just like what's the it's like
- 14:42all like it's that competitiveness that
- 14:45you were talking about though you know
- 14:46and it's like even that even in the
- 14:48world but it's like sour is always a
- 14:51contender you know Kendrick versus Cole
- 14:54right cuz if you like Kendrick you like
- 14:56Cole and if you like Cole you like
- 14:57Kendrick but people like to put them
- 14:59next to each other so it's better yeah
- 15:02the weed version of that
- 15:05yeah no doubt speaking of uh like the
- 15:08classics and whatnot what do you think
- 15:10about some of the modern tur profiles
- 15:12like the candies and and you know like
- 15:15the gelato family and all that new stuff
- 15:17what do you think of that I think I know
- 15:19what you're going to say already but I I
- 15:21want to know what you think if if it's
- 15:23good it's good right and I'm not like
- 15:27I'm not dissing anything that
- 15:28specifically that you're going to name
- 15:30or anything like that but it's just it's
- 15:34almost like it's
- 15:36today I don't know a a variety of
- 15:39cannabis can only be popular for like a
- 15:42year and then it's like it's [ __ ]
- 15:45whack it's p and now you have to have
- 15:48the it's always the next the next the
- 15:50next you know we where we came from a
- 15:53time when like you know like C wanted to
- 15:56keep things certain STS rained Supreme
- 15:59for like decades cuz they cuz let's talk
- 16:02about genetics like what can the
- 16:04genetics improve throughout the years
- 16:08and stuff to make so you can work on it
- 16:10and make the make the flower even better
- 16:12right so it's
- 16:13like how how can it become past a after
- 16:17amount of time you know things don't
- 16:18things get better with with time in
- 16:21general how do you feel about that I
- 16:26mean I think that like
- 16:29that there's a lot of things to work
- 16:32with now right so if you want say if you
- 16:34want to breed something you know you
- 16:36have a huge pallet to work with right uh
- 16:40genetics have never been this
- 16:43accessible where you know if I if I want
- 16:45to
- 16:46have you know some specific varieties of
- 16:49weed I I'm willing to pay for it I can
- 16:52track that within I can track it down
- 16:53and be growing it within like you know a
- 16:56week whereas it used to be
- 16:59that you know you had to go through
- 17:00great pains and links and beg people to
- 17:04to get gentics you got know a guy or you
- 17:05had to go to am to hope that you know
- 17:08that you were getting what you paid for
- 17:10right
- 17:11right with that being said I'm curious
- 17:14are there any cross strains that you did
- 17:17enjoy like do you have a favorite like
- 17:19for example we have the Lilac diesel or
- 17:22any type of variations that might have
- 17:24standed stood out to
- 17:26you um what you saying like diesel cross
- 17:29diesel cross
- 17:32diesel in the later years yeah I mean
- 17:36you know yeah like mine you know but I
- 17:38mean I've seen a lot of stuff over the
- 17:40years you know I've seen so much I've
- 17:43forgotten you know like more than I can
- 17:46remember but uh as far as what I've seen
- 17:49in the last uh 10 years you know living
- 17:52on the west coast it's like it's insane
- 17:55you know like how much weed you see it's
- 17:57like it's like remember ing every shirt
- 17:59you saw at the store you know it's
- 18:02like going to happen but yeah you know
- 18:04there's there's been you know good
- 18:06things I like um you know who you know
- 18:08who makes great [ __ ] is um uh hey
- 18:12monster you guys know who he is the Pink
- 18:14Starburst that's a great sour cross
- 18:18um um yeah I mean I see I but people
- 18:22especially be because you know it's me
- 18:27like like people see me I guess and you
- 18:29know sometimes they're if they're into
- 18:31sour they they probably recognize me and
- 18:33they come up to me and they're like yo
- 18:35check this out you know people
- 18:38show so much different dies and it's
- 18:41great you know and then and anytime I
- 18:43can smell sour and anything it's great
- 18:46and you're like oh it's in there
- 18:47definitely and that that's always the
- 18:49like the test like the smell test is it
- 18:52in there I don't know man it's and when
- 18:54it's in there you're like but this this
- 18:56cut right here you can you're like this
- 18:58is it you know it's like it's not not
- 19:01it's not in there it's this is it right
- 19:03here so really excited to have have it
- 19:06have you in here how important is uh the
- 19:11genetics in terms of where you're
- 19:13growing like regionally so like you know
- 19:16it like so for example sour is from here
- 19:20it's from New York it's from I know
- 19:22you're it was growing in Doris mainly
- 19:24but you're still battling all sorts of
- 19:28New York [ __ ] when you're growing
- 19:30your weed here so yeah no I mean I think
- 19:32that it I noticed that it's different
- 19:35every time things change it's different
- 19:37living in California this hour grew
- 19:39different different water right um and
- 19:42also I mean I've changed lights like
- 19:45three times since I left New York you
- 19:48know I uh I've I've grown through like
- 19:52every iteration of grow light you know
- 19:55we went from the
- 19:57old uh
- 19:58magnetic heavy
- 20:01ballasts uh to uh digital ballasts and I
- 20:04saw qualitative change the way things
- 20:07Grew From that it changed the way the
- 20:10bulb lights up and then going into all
- 20:13the different uh uh
- 20:15uh you know evolutions of it like the
- 20:19double-ended then the LEC and then you
- 20:21know that's what I mean like all the
- 20:23years that you've been growing you're
- 20:25like you're you're experimenting with
- 20:27different methods and you're like you
- 20:29know your genetics are are are moving
- 20:32down the line with you and you're trying
- 20:34new things and I feel like the flower
- 20:36just you know has the potential to be
- 20:38the best it can be now so I feel like
- 20:42that's why the strain these strains like
- 20:44this will be popular forever you know I
- 20:46think sour just smells better in New
- 20:48York too I like you know it's too dry
- 20:50out west like you know is there
- 20:53something about the musty stank that and
- 20:55I think that's that's part of the like
- 20:57the way the genetics respond well to its
- 20:59environment right and and so when you
- 21:01have genetics that are born here you
- 21:05know land R [ __ ] it's like you're
- 21:07dealing with you know uh I think it's
- 21:10just going to be better here which is
- 21:13why I'm excited to have it back in New
- 21:15York MH me too yeah definitely me too
- 21:18it's good to be back yeah I'm curious if
- 21:23you have any um any perspective on this
- 21:28new way of people shopping now that
- 21:31dispensaries are on the rise like people
- 21:33shopping strictly by THC percentage have
- 21:36you noticed that any difference from
- 21:39back in the day to now like one thing I
- 21:42like to say to people is like when they
- 21:44ask for like what's the highest th
- 21:45percentage I'm like did you ever ask
- 21:47your person before you started coming to
- 21:49a dispensary what the th percentage is
- 21:51and nobody ever has you know what I mean
- 21:53but I think it's a shift you know yeah
- 21:55but people who are like my age they
- 21:57never ask about that they say let me see
- 21:59it and let me smell it right that's how
- 22:02you buy weed you see it you smell it and
- 22:05you know right away is it good do I is
- 22:07this do am I going to enjoy smoking this
- 22:09and uh that's how it is so I don't know
- 22:12I mean that's an odd way to shop for
- 22:15weed but that's look the right the
- 22:19market can only like Advance at the rate
- 22:22that the consumer is educated mhm
- 22:24exactly definitely so that's why we're
- 22:26trying to do this so we can help to push
- 22:28that consumer education forward and let
- 22:30people know what it's really all about
- 22:32and that it's you know the tpes play a
- 22:35huge role out we always talk about this
- 22:37every episode that it's not all about
- 22:39thp THC percentage it's the Entourage
- 22:41effects it's the tpine percentage it's
- 22:43the it's uh you know the minor
- 22:46cannaboids and the way it all works
- 22:47together that shapes the high and colors
- 22:50the high it's a very I mean it's now
- 22:53hopefully we can get some science on
- 22:55that now that they're studying and
- 22:57they're going deeper you got
- 22:58universities publishing studies on it we
- 23:00can get we can get down to the bottom of
- 23:02it all but we've known anecdotally for a
- 23:05long time that that's we never we would
- 23:07never shop by percentage necessarily
- 23:10it's like no but I think like I think
- 23:13people eventually
- 23:16like figure out the best way to get high
- 23:19that's one thing that you don't have to
- 23:20worry about people not figuring out
- 23:23knowen the dispensary already people
- 23:25coming back and they're like yeah I'm
- 23:28starting to realize I smoked this higher
- 23:29percentage stuff and didn't feel nearly
- 23:31as good as I did off this I'm like or
- 23:34they'll ask why this higher percentage
- 23:35stuff is cheaper than this stuff that's
- 23:37only 19% like yeah and I think a lot of
- 23:41most people are going to be dabbing but
- 23:43first they have to like not be confused
- 23:45on what it is and how to do it and you
- 23:47have to learn how to operate new stuff
- 23:49and machinery and like people so but
- 23:52people eventually learn cuz they want to
- 23:54get high yeah and it's a it's in a new
- 23:56market like this it's it's it's our job
- 23:58to educate them and put them on how to
- 24:00do it right so yep definitely yeah man
- 24:04do you have a favorite way of getting
- 24:06high I just I smoke joints and I smoke
- 24:09hash out of a hookah typically nice nice
- 24:12old school hash out the hook hash out
- 24:14the
- 24:16hookah little glass hookah nice little
- 24:19Hash Pipe yeah yeah that's SEC so uh the
- 24:25genetics it like had been or I don't
- 24:28know if the genetics were lost for sour
- 24:30for a while or whatever like it but you
- 24:33know you couldn't find the real Sour
- 24:35it's like we were hunting for it for a
- 24:37long time so can we uh talk a little bit
- 24:40about how like what happened what like
- 24:43what how did it like fall out and there
- 24:46wasn't real Sour and like how are you
- 24:48bringing back your um no look the sour
- 24:51didn't go anywhere yeah I think the
- 24:55availability of sour came to an end cuz
- 24:58you
- 24:59know in like 2000 starting at around 200
- 25:03like 8 or
- 25:059 UM New York just started getting
- 25:08hammered with weed from California yeah
- 25:13and Growers who grew sour had come to
- 25:17expect that they were going to get paid
- 25:18at least $6,000 a pound but when there
- 25:21was like indoor weed all over New York
- 25:24City for 2500 a
- 25:26pound right I just think that like a lot
- 25:29of these systems were built upon A5 to
- 25:32$6,000 pound guarantee and when they
- 25:36they couldn't afford to stay in business
- 25:37and sell weed it wasn't worth it they
- 25:39they found a new racket there was like
- 25:42organized crime syndicates were
- 25:45manufacturing weed instead of doing
- 25:47other drugs because it was it was easier
- 25:49and made more profitable you know I mean
- 25:52I certainly built my fair share of like
- 25:55uh commercial grows for people uh back
- 25:57in the day cuz you know I mean I was
- 25:59like a consultant for hire if people
- 26:01wanted yeah why not right like there's
- 26:04money in there there's money in that
- 26:05right now like there's like legal money
- 26:08in that right now you know like the the
- 26:10the commercial grows that are coming
- 26:12online need Consultants to teach them
- 26:14how to [ __ ] grow weed some of them
- 26:16like to be honest with you so you know
- 26:18that's uh do the fact that you're like
- 26:20so far ahead of the curve you're doing
- 26:22that yeah I mean I I was in I lived out
- 26:25west from 2014 to
- 26:28you know this year but
- 26:30um but I never stopped growing sour and
- 26:34people back here all my friends that
- 26:37were growing it when I left they're
- 26:38still growing it yeah it just the
- 26:40availability became limited due to price
- 26:43constraints and they were like well
- 26:45we'll just grow Sal for ourselves then
- 26:46[ __ ] you
- 26:48[ __ ] you're I get it there
- 26:50there they were sending uh you know ,000
- 26:53a pound a $1,000 a pound in California
- 26:55and they're selling it for $3,000 a
- 26:57pound out here and it and yeah and the
- 26:59good [ __ ] was going for5 $6,000 a pound
- 27:02before that and I remember warehouses
- 27:07pumping out sour and all over Brooklyn
- 27:10All Over Queens uh and all over the
- 27:12state
- 27:13probably cuz there was an insatiable
- 27:16appetite for sour you know in the mid
- 27:192000 you could not supply enough that's
- 27:22why can can you tell us about the uh the
- 27:24highest you ever got for a pound back
- 27:26then I mean everyone I heard a story I
- 27:29heard a story I just want yeah one time
- 27:33years many many years ago that did I did
- 27:35sell I think 3bs for 45,000 that's yeah
- 27:40and there was a bit War happening and
- 27:43you
- 27:48know but that's not the record I mean
- 27:51like uh uh I had a friend and he used to
- 27:54go down to uh he was from Baltimore and
- 27:57the Lowery side and he would go down to
- 27:59Baltimore and sell 02 pieces for uh $20
- 28:05to the crack dealers in the crack houses
- 28:09so they were selling crack to the
- 28:12crackheads he was selling little tws to
- 28:14the crack dealers and they would put
- 28:16like the point two in their frontt just
- 28:18to make it like better so so the the $20
- 28:23point2 is like the best one I think I've
- 28:25heard that's wild
- 28:28$20 point to and there was another guy
- 28:31who was selling $100 grams also yeah
- 28:34downtown so there are people that who
- 28:36did who did their
- 28:39num who did their numbers huh that's
- 28:41crazy man used to be 720s for me that's
- 28:45how I would sell it 720s I used to buy a
- 28:48so smoke some for not an absurd amount
- 28:51of money in 1990 I would in 91 right I
- 28:55when I was in in boarding school I would
- 28:57come home back to New York City for the
- 28:58weekend and there was a guy that would
- 29:00sell you7 of haze for 35 bucks and we
- 29:04used to buy like 10 of those [ __ ]
- 29:06bags and uh and we'd pull our money
- 29:10together and he bought those 7s for
- 29:1320 he was no listen you you beep this
- 29:17guy he called you back and then he like
- 29:20delivered to you within like 15 minutes
- 29:22like Domino's Pizza even if you just
- 29:24wanted one so like he was I mean yeah he
- 29:27was he had a great Enterprise but um but
- 29:30it was worth it you and the Gramps were
- 29:33fat cuz it was like real Haze Haze yeah
- 29:35fluffy [ __ ] yeah those those ounces used
- 29:39to be so they used to be so fluffy with
- 29:41the with the long hairs like what the
- 29:43[ __ ] never seen [ __ ] looks like some
- 29:45alien weed yeah sh was gorgeous yeah
- 29:48gorgeous love it yeah all and all that
- 29:51stuff you know you can find it around
- 29:52you know I've seen I've I've seen been
- 29:55seeing some hazes quite a bit few years
- 29:58yeah all the the the Uptown like the
- 30:00piff the Cuban all that stuff is back
- 30:02hard back yeah it is it
- 30:05is yeah it's in the market there's a
- 30:08couple there's a couple uh uh you know
- 30:11Growers and you know in the legal Market
- 30:13bringing some Haze product so and
- 30:16there's a couple people saying that
- 30:17they're bringing sour but Crossing it
- 30:19though yeah they are crossing yeah yeah
- 30:23yeah there it's like missing one of the
- 30:25you know it's like it'll have the nose
- 30:28it'll have the bag appeal but it won't
- 30:29have like the taste you know what I mean
- 30:32or or there's something that'll have the
- 30:34taste and the and the bag appeal but the
- 30:37nose isn't quite right you know what I
- 30:38mean it's like missing one of the one of
- 30:40the elements one of the elements but
- 30:42it's not easy to get everything right I
- 30:44know it is it is it's it's not easy yeah
- 30:50as we can see yeah but you've clearly
- 30:52perfected it yeah I mean yeah it's it's
- 30:54it's but yeah it's just hard it's it's
- 30:57hard to get everything perfect and uh as
- 31:00is anything that's special you know you
- 31:02got to work hard to get it for sure once
- 31:05you do get it though yeah you got
- 31:07something amazing and you got to keep
- 31:09doing it so shout out to flowerhouse by
- 31:11the way for the bringing the AJ Sour
- 31:14Diesel to the market you know we got
- 31:16some other strains from we got ounces
- 31:19believe we have quarters and 8 so uh we
- 31:23killing it do we have the half ounces of
- 31:25the sour to or is it just the
- 31:28and and the E
- 31:29right yeah they going though yeah yeah
- 31:33oh yeah moving
- 31:35already absolutely they are yeah the
- 31:38word is out the word is out all loves
- 31:41real official sour so oh uh one last
- 31:45question and I'm going to let you go cuz
- 31:46I know your time is valuable and we
- 31:47really appreciate you spending this much
- 31:49time with us
- 31:51um what does AJ stand
- 31:54for um [ __ ] Joe all right that's what
- 31:58I thought my uh my cousin my cousin
- 32:01Lindsay says what's up she uh she
- 32:04actually knows the Catskill crew and
- 32:06knew you through them and knows you
- 32:08through them uh with her her late
- 32:10husband Greg I don't know if you yeah I
- 32:13know who she is yeah all right well you
- 32:15know she she told me that that AJ stood
- 32:18stood for [ __ ] Joe so I just wanted
- 32:20to hear from from you um if that was the
- 32:23truth I didn't want to ask you there was
- 32:25like a few Jo around back in the day you
- 32:28know so somehow I got called [ __ ] Joe
- 32:32all right seemed like a pretty nice guy
- 32:33to me I'm going be honest with you but
- 32:34uh yeah you know I don't I didn't know
- 32:36you 20 years ago so yeah well you know
- 32:39if you didn't get your sour I was a
- 32:41[ __ ] [ __ ] I guess you know like I
- 32:43couldn't yes that's I had to be an
- 32:45[ __ ] to somebody fair enough fair
- 32:48enough well uh once again we really
- 32:50appreciate you spending this time with
- 32:52us AB um stage one podcast from uh stoop
- 32:56to store Legacy the legal once again
- 32:58let's uh give it up for AJ no congrats
- 33:02on this store too man it's it's booming
- 33:05in there yeah we're we're we're
- 33:06definitely blessed we're happy to be
- 33:08serving the community that we are
- 33:10everybody's really great um and we're
- 33:13just hoping to keep doing it for as long
- 33:14as possible and I think with products
- 33:17like uh AJ sour coming to Market we're
- 33:20not going to have too hard a time
- 33:21keeping people coming back for more so
- 33:24all right all right guys you guys got to
- 33:26get back work usually we do this after
- 33:28work right now we're literally doing it
- 33:30during work so um shout out to J and
- 33:32Scotty for taking their time out of
- 33:34their busy schedule yeah that's why I
- 33:36didn't have the wine today I got to go
- 33:38back
- 33:40wiha all right peace y'all all right
- 33:42peace thank thank you both of y'all
- 33:44everybody
- 33:45[Music]
- 33:55rap
- 34:01[Music]
- 34:08be on green Mario
- 34:12[Music]
- 34:15Yi
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