The Racism of the Woke Left - Unapologetic LIVE w/ Wilfred Reilly — Transcript

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1. 0:02[Applause]
2. 0:03[Music]
3. 0:13[Music]
4. 0:15hi guys i come to deliver a little bit
5. 0:17of bad news it looks like we're not
6. 0:18going to be doing a show today because i
7. 0:20sound like what i imagine a gremlin to
8. 0:22sound like right now i fear i might be
9. 0:24coming down with a little bit of
10. 0:25something but that's not going to stop
11. 0:27me from bringing you content so here's
12. 0:29an interview that we've done with a
13. 0:30friend of ours here at prageru by the
14. 0:32name of wilfred riley i hope you enjoy
15. 0:34this interview we go back and forth go
16. 0:36through his twitter try to explain some
17. 0:38tweets and have some fun talking about
18. 0:40the current social issues that we're
19. 0:41dealing with today race being the one
20. 0:43that we have the most fun with i hope
21. 0:45you guys enjoy this episode i'm gonna go
22. 0:48rest up work on feeling a little bit
23. 0:50better and hopefully i will see you
24. 0:51tomorrow live to talk to you about a new
25. 0:55issue can't wait
26. 0:57[Music]
27. 1:00guys we wanted to do a new segment on
28. 1:02the show it's called explain that tweet
29. 1:04where we bring you prolific twitter
30. 1:06users to bring up their tweets and see
31. 1:08if we can get an explanation from them
32. 1:10you know twitter only allows a certain
33. 1:11amount of characters we want the
34. 1:13thoughts to their full extent today we
35. 1:15have author of hate crime hoaxes and
36. 1:17taboo wilfred riley he's also a
37. 1:19presenter in many of our five minute
38. 1:21videos one about what's wrong with the
39. 1:221619 project that you can check out by
40. 1:24going to
41. 1:25prageru.com watch and five minute videos
42. 1:28wilfred thank you for being on yeah glad
43. 1:30to be here fantastic i'm gonna just
44. 1:32throw them at you okay we're gonna just
45. 1:34rapid fire these uh explain that tweet
46. 1:37number one
47. 1:38reading one real history book about say
48. 1:41slavery or white versus native wars can
49. 1:43make you pretty woke reading 20 and in
50. 1:46quotes the aztecs might spare plum
51. 1:47children from the initial sacrifice but
52. 1:50ellipses it's likely to make you if
53. 1:53anything pro-western but deeply
54. 1:54depressed about humanity
55. 1:56yeah i mean the same same effect occurs
56. 1:58if you read you know the bible or any of
57. 2:01most of the great human texts but yeah
58. 2:03what i was saying there is i think that
59. 2:05very often when i talk to people that i
60. 2:07would consider woke they are people who
61. 2:09are kind of backlashing from maybe that
62. 2:12more jingoistic education you still
63. 2:14sometimes get in heartland america i
64. 2:16live in kentucky and they're saying
65. 2:18things like did you know you know the
66. 2:19whites killed the indians and like yes i
67. 2:22do know that
68. 2:23they were the winners of that war but i
69. 2:25mean i think if you actually take a book
70. 2:26like scalp dance or empire of the summer
71. 2:29moon that looks at how the great native
72. 2:31nations like the comanches the aztecs
73. 2:34the mohawk iraq how they behaved the
74. 2:36many battles they won against the whites
75. 2:37you realize that
76. 2:39a little knowledge is a dangerous thing
77. 2:40like the reality is a lot more complex
78. 2:43i'll end this with one sentence women
79. 2:44didn't get to vote in the usa or really
80. 2:46anywhere else till 1920. like all of our
81. 2:48ancestors were savages every adult man
82. 2:51was expected to be a warrior in almost
83. 2:53every black asian
84. 2:55native society until pretty recently so
85. 2:57when you discover that white americans
86. 2:59were very imperfect it's very easy to
87. 3:01stop there but then you realize that
88. 3:03everyone was very very imperfect um i
89. 3:06mean you you started asking questions
90. 3:07like where did all those slaves come
91. 3:08from right and you realize that that's
92. 3:10why things like personal spirituality
93. 3:12and honor code so on are so important
94. 3:14the wolf lives inside everyone it's not
95. 3:16a characteristic of one group of people
96. 3:17um yeah and i think it was something i
97. 3:19used to be a former radical leftist for
98. 3:21those of you who don't know i'm sure you
99. 3:22guys all know this yeah and slavery was
100. 3:25the thing that i like i leaned on the
101. 3:26most you know look at this transgression
102. 3:28and then come to find that no race has
103. 3:30escaped the transgression of slavery for
104. 3:31the most part uh why do you think the
105. 3:33focus in america is just so strong on
106. 3:35that particular point in history well
107. 3:37i'm going to some of the steel man the
108. 3:39other side's argument shout out to my
109. 3:40guy angel eduardo from fair who insists
110. 3:43on everyone doing this during debates on
111. 3:45but i mean the the argument would be
112. 3:46well because we live in america and the
113. 3:49majority of atrocities in america were
114. 3:50committed by whites and so forth of
115. 3:52course the majority of people are white
116. 3:54as well but i i also think that when you
117. 3:56dig a little deeper you find that most
118. 3:58people simply don't know that all human
119. 4:00groups have behaved very equivalently
120. 4:02throughout history and by the way this
121. 4:04isn't a point of shame for members of
122. 4:06quote-unquote minority groups i mean
123. 4:07genghis khan and mansa musa and the
124. 4:09leaders of the civilized asian and
125. 4:11african and so on empires are quite on
126. 4:12par with many europeans and for example
127. 4:14eastern europe at the same time
128. 4:16um but that included skillet brutality
129. 4:18as well as skillet technology so i mean
130. 4:21i i think that there's a you can argue
131. 4:23we should focus a little bit more on
132. 4:24america but i also think just just
133. 4:25simply put in quantitative terms if you
134. 4:27ask american high school kids
135. 4:29you know was slavery unique to the usa
136. 4:32you find that crazy percentages like a
137. 4:34quarter and a half say yes
138. 4:36so one answer is that a lot of people
139. 4:38just don't know about
140. 4:40a lot of this reality they've read the
141. 4:41one book they haven't read the 20.
142. 4:43and now i'm gonna because i mean
143. 4:45obviously like we're we both lean right
144. 4:47now there's another element that's not
145. 4:48accidental here the extent to which the
146. 4:51radical kind of fringe left has taken
147. 4:54over a lot of american discourse if
148. 4:55you're looking at media if you're
149. 4:56looking at secondary academia higher
150. 4:58education it's really pretty remarkable
151. 5:00if you look at any study a university
152. 5:02professor's last line i mean
153. 5:04sociology for example is about 95
154. 5:06percent left is 5 conservative so i
155. 5:08think that's one reason there's so much
156. 5:09more of a focus on
157. 5:12the sins of europe it's not even just
158. 5:13america than on the sins of anywhere
159. 5:15else
160. 5:16genghis khan killed two percent of the
161. 5:18population of the world i mean this just
162. 5:20went on constantly for years right but
163. 5:22it no it is not focused on to the same
164. 5:24extent yeah a fantastic
165. 5:26it's just it's an amazing thing to sort
166. 5:28of step outside of the scope of what you
167. 5:30learn and the narrative and then sort of
168. 5:32look out and see what other people uh
169. 5:34don't see
170. 5:35another one here explain this to me i
171. 5:37can't believe this requires explanation
172. 5:39the government of a state should not
173. 5:41give needles and crack pipes to junkies
174. 5:43so when i said the wolf lives inside
175. 5:45everyone the reality is that there are
176. 5:47probably very very few ultimate rights
177. 5:50and wrongs i mean if you look at the
178. 5:52true bases of moral systems when people
179. 5:54are more primitive they're you know
180. 5:56christians the ten commandments
181. 5:58buddhists the eight-fold way and it's
182. 6:00always stuff like don't be a cannibal
183. 6:02don't kill your neighbors i mean sure
184. 6:04there's some baseline morality but much
185. 6:07beyond that i think you kind of do
186. 6:09determine what your honor code is and
187. 6:11how you live
188. 6:12and i think that
189. 6:15if you what am i saying here if you want
190. 6:17me to obey the laws you have to at least
191. 6:20pretend to take them seriously and you
192. 6:22have to at least pretend to try to
193. 6:23enforce them if you're not claiming
194. 6:25these these reflect some kind of
195. 6:26ultimate deeper rule so if your policy
196. 6:29is drugs are bad and you're a country
197. 6:31and i'd agree hard drugs are bad
198. 6:33this isn't like playing during the
199. 6:35weekends you're smoking crack like if
200. 6:38that's the standard in almost every
201. 6:39civilized country you shouldn't give
202. 6:42junkies the crack pipes yep i mean this
203. 6:44is people will make all these
204. 6:45excuse-making arguments like well if
205. 6:47we've got all the junkies in one
206. 6:48facility we we can ensure that they
207. 6:51smoke crack safely but there's that
208. 6:54sort of brutal realism in the back of
209. 6:55every adult's mind like if you've got
210. 6:57all the junkies in one facility they
211. 6:58have drugs you can arrest them and send
212. 6:59them to rehab like there seems to be no
213. 7:01situation where giving them crack pipes
214. 7:03is the ideal solution one other thing as
215. 7:05a black man i find it incredibly
216. 7:07annoying that there's there's this
217. 7:09constant pitch of we are the true we
218. 7:12woke white so the people that really
219. 7:13want to help the community right but
220. 7:15it's always stuff like this it's not not
221. 7:17always there's just some good job stuff
222. 7:19and build back better sure but most of
223. 7:21the time
224. 7:22it strikes me that it's more stuff like
225. 7:25this than like we're actually going to
226. 7:27build a factory right in an
227. 7:29african-american community for that
228. 7:30matter a poor white neighborhood or
229. 7:32we're going to move there like if you're
230. 7:34a teacher live in your district it's
231. 7:36never that it's always like we notice
232. 7:38whites are smoking you know from some
233. 7:39cleaner crack pipes
234. 7:42your urban junkie might have to smoke
235. 7:43from the car antenna so we're going to
236. 7:45fix that that's not something that we
237. 7:47need to fix right last thing but i mean
238. 7:50like even the whole like powder crack
239. 7:52cocaine disparity like people
240. 7:55people say if you sell an ounce of crack
241. 7:57you're what are you five times the
242. 7:59sentence you get for selling an ounce of
243. 8:00powder but i don't know if the people we
244. 8:02really need to be focusing on in hood
245. 8:03communities are the people moving ounces
246. 8:05of crack that's the least sympathetic
247. 8:08people imaginable like of all the racist
248. 8:09disparities that exist by this one right
249. 8:12right uh in honor of black lives matter
250. 8:14let's give out clean crack pipes let's
251. 8:16decriminalize shoplifting and i
252. 8:19i don't know let's just allow people to
253. 8:20do whatever they want because disparate
254. 8:22impact well i think like i grew up in a
255. 8:23big city and i was when i mentioned i
256. 8:25was a radical like i was an organizer
257. 8:26for occupy for a while this back like
258. 8:282010. this is like real people fighting
259. 8:30the police yeah yeah with the guy fox
260. 8:32masks on like swords over their back and
261. 8:35i it struck me that i'll censor this
262. 8:38because family audience but that bleep
263. 8:39didn't work yeah like you started seeing
264. 8:41the stuff you see with blm 10 15 years
265. 8:43later like people were giving us
266. 8:44millions of dollars and people were
267. 8:47taking it
268. 8:48stealing is a loaded phrase that my
269. 8:50lawyers advised me not to use but it's
270. 8:51just like the i think you bank account
271. 8:53for occupy chicago i think it's still
272. 8:55frozen yeah you know so it's it's fun to
273. 8:57hook up outdoors and scrap with the
274. 8:59police but none of this seemed to be
275. 9:00doing anything for in that case i guess
276. 9:01student communities working class
277. 9:03communities of all colors right and blm
278. 9:05seems to have had the same effect on
279. 9:07black communities which is to say not
280. 9:08much but the point i was making is
281. 9:10actually a slightly different one one of
282. 9:12the things you noticed with occupy
283. 9:14was that a lot of like woke college
284. 9:16girls bluntly would come down to the
285. 9:18radical zone to kind of play
286. 9:20like there were all these fun people
287. 9:21there and they had weapons you might
288. 9:22hang out with them for a night then
289. 9:24you'd leave some sort of this game and i
290. 9:26noticed there's the same attitude toward
291. 9:28the hood like you hear this incredibly
292. 9:29patronizing stuff like well we know some
293. 9:31of you have to work as sex workers but
294. 9:33while you do you will be safe and your
295. 9:35crack will be hard
296. 9:36why don't you try to help people not
297. 9:39work as prostitutes and smoke crack
298. 9:41right i think would be a very good
299. 9:43starting point why don't treat people as
300. 9:46fellow human brothers i think is a good
301. 9:48baseline idea yeah it's almost like oh
302. 9:50we've accepted that this is the reality
303. 9:52for people of color so why don't we yeah
304. 9:54why not facilitate it for them amazing
305. 9:57now actually what you just said there
306. 9:58it's worth it's worth thinking about
307. 9:59that in in detail obviously you can
308. 10:01choose to be a sex worker i'm pretty pro
309. 10:03sex i'm not going to discuss that in
310. 10:04detail unlike the current government
311. 10:06officials yeah the kinks
312. 10:08keep that to yourself
313. 10:09my favorite considerable entertaining
314. 10:11decadence with someone you like indoors
315. 10:13but anyway um
316. 10:15but with all that aside like consider
317. 10:17that sentence though like
318. 10:19sure you can consensually choose to be a
319. 10:20sex worker but at a broad systemic level
320. 10:23people are saying we expect you to be
321. 10:24crack smoking that's the absolute
322. 10:27norm in the black community yeah we're
323. 10:28gonna help you with that why yeah like
324. 10:31you take your crack pipes back home
325. 10:34and they're the ones who are going to
326. 10:35end racism
327. 10:37it's all these starting assumptions like
328. 10:38the
329. 10:39the starting assumption behind uh
330. 10:42cutting academic standards of course is
331. 10:44that blacks and by the way you'd have to
332. 10:46say to even greater extent hispanics and
333. 10:47natives and a lot of situations right
334. 10:49but are just academically incapable and
335. 10:52you you kind of it's just a political
336. 10:53way of saying them people don't even
337. 10:55speak the language you know like what
338. 10:57you want to do is you know do a year of
339. 10:59bilingual education then take students
340. 11:01in poor hispanic areas and put them in
341. 11:03classrooms everybody else and you know
342. 11:04make them learn math make it intensive
343. 11:06the goal is to get people to know things
344. 11:09not to pretend that knowing things
345. 11:11doesn't matter and admit people into
346. 11:12your elite universities regardless of
347. 11:14whether or not they know things
348. 11:15oh it's just wild that that has to be
349. 11:17verbalized
350. 11:18it's amazing it is pretty crazy uh
351. 11:20speaking of crazy uh here's your next
352. 11:21tweet comparing the a reality of and b
353. 11:24mainstream media coverage of the quote
354. 11:26freedom convoy as versus the black lives
355. 11:30matter protests and riots is a
356. 11:31remarkably eye-opening experience even
357. 11:33for me
358. 11:35yeah and i mean i'm like i'm a
359. 11:36right-leaning writer so i mean i
360. 11:37expected there to be some bs from the
361. 11:39media but i mean the coverage of the
362. 11:41freedom convoy now i will say first of
363. 11:43all i don't think like mass public
364. 11:45demonstrations generally work all that
365. 11:46well i think the thing that was so
366. 11:48effective about the reverend king for
367. 11:49example is that he would walk everybody
368. 11:51across the bridge and you would see all
369. 11:53these potential fighting men from like
370. 11:55hbcu football teams not fighting right
371. 11:57and he would make the point why can't we
372. 11:58walk across this bridge on any day i
373. 12:00mean people are doing things like
374. 12:02sitting down at lunch counters with
375. 12:03their girlfriends in a suit and quietly
376. 12:05ordering a banana split so i mean i
377. 12:07think that was what's so effective it's
378. 12:08this sort of normal behavior contrasted
379. 12:10with the the frenzy of the people
380. 12:11responding to you right but in terms of
381. 12:13like the the classic like left and right
382. 12:16fight in the streets type of
383. 12:17demonstration i'm not sure that
384. 12:19accomplishes much of anything so the
385. 12:21freedom convoy by about day three would
386. 12:23have started to annoy me if i were
387. 12:24living in otawa i mean it's like this
388. 12:27the honking starts at 7am and stops at
389. 12:298pm apparently but with that said the
390. 12:32treatment of the truckers which are
391. 12:34being described as like a radical
392. 12:36disruptive force violence yeah
393. 12:40the police are going and stealing their
394. 12:42gasoline
395. 12:43the prime minister of canada is in
396. 12:44hiding he's lying about having coveted i
397. 12:47mean at some point he may have but this
398. 12:49has been going on for like a week plus i
399. 12:50think could we could start to say like
400. 12:52where's that negative test justin right
401. 12:54you know all this stuff they're talking
402. 12:56about um
403. 12:57that has not been confirmed but we're
404. 12:59they're talking about you know this is
405. 13:01this is a hate crime people are
406. 13:02threatening a hundred thousand dollar
407. 13:04sanctions against anyone involved the
408. 13:05treatment of that as versus the actual
409. 13:08blm protest that ended up in many cases
410. 13:11degenerating into riots is pretty
411. 13:13remarkable i mean like the minneapolis
412. 13:15protest just to give one example set an
413. 13:17active police station on fire with the
414. 13:19police in it right and the description
415. 13:21of events like this was almost
416. 13:23invariably fiery but mostly peaceful was
417. 13:25what cnn led with sure i want to clarify
418. 13:28this isn't mostly a riot contrast that
419. 13:30with the the depiction of like the seat
420. 13:32guy in his truck honking the horse right
421. 13:34right they put the cardboard sign on the
422. 13:35on the statue and all of a sudden that's
423. 13:37vandalism and they've they've faced this
424. 13:39statue that was the most ridiculous
425. 13:42thing like there are there are a lot of
426. 13:43guys on the left i argue with like
427. 13:45matsukita that were very passionately
428. 13:48saying like
429. 13:50they defaced the statue of the unknown
430. 13:52soldier and like the thing is i think
431. 13:53they believe it like these guys are
432. 13:54left-wing but patriotic enough but it
433. 13:56was like bro did you ever turn on any
434. 13:58right leading media during the blm riots
435. 14:00like right they were cutting the heads
436. 14:02off statues of frederick douglass and
437. 14:04stuff like this they didn't even know
438. 14:05who the people in the statues were but
439. 14:07mostly peaceful yeah but like one of the
440. 14:09statues that was defaced during the blm
441. 14:11fighting was the statue of the 54th
442. 14:14massachusetts which is an all-black
443. 14:16regiment that helped conquer the south
444. 14:18and when people were asked about it off
445. 14:21the record the explanation seemed to be
446. 14:22we didn't know those were black soldiers
447. 14:24and
448. 14:26there are a lot of questions that i have
449. 14:28about that but anyway
450. 14:31like
451. 14:32contrasting that with like they put the
452. 14:34canadian flag on the canadian soldier
453. 14:36statue this is now the worst we've ever
454. 14:38seen right horrifying without excusing
455. 14:41any rioting on either side of course
456. 14:42we're seeing the same thing with january
457. 14:436 like people died during a riot and
458. 14:46this is the most despicable the total
459. 14:48death toll from the blm writing i think
460. 14:50was 50. the federalist headed at 35 in
461. 14:53august of 2020. so without exaggerating
462. 14:56this i mean
463. 14:57the the panic and level of anger is new
464. 15:00let's say yep yep
465. 15:02so this leads me to my next question for
466. 15:04you this is actually a question that you
467. 15:06post on twitter
468. 15:07what's your favorite example of absurdly
469. 15:10racist or on pc behavior by people who
470. 15:12are currently annoyingly woke i think my
471. 15:15my best answer for this is that most
472. 15:16recent showtime special which i'm sure
473. 15:18you've seen that video everything's
474. 15:20going to be all white
475. 15:22yeah
476. 15:23go on sorry i feel like i've been doing
477. 15:24it i
478. 15:26that was just the most blatantly racist
479. 15:27thing uh and so overtly it's like the
480. 15:29the the uh what we've been trying to
481. 15:31hide for so long we're now comfortable
482. 15:33with saying out loud and to make an
483. 15:35entire docu-series out of it and then
484. 15:37post it so proudly and so confidently is
485. 15:40it's just amazing so that's my answer
486. 15:41well this is this is actually something
487. 15:43if you look at kind of the ibrahim
488. 15:44kennedy left like something they say
489. 15:46very confidently is that the solution to
490. 15:49discrimination in the past is
491. 15:51discrimination now
492. 15:53so if you see a gap that you think is
493. 15:55due potentially like 50
494. 15:57to what was often in the north implicit
495. 15:59discrimination in the past the solution
496. 16:01to that is open explicit discrimination
497. 16:04today right so like i actually would
498. 16:07agree that like there's there for
499. 16:08example they're audit studies that find
500. 16:10that there's maybe a seven percent level
501. 16:12of discrimination against black names
502. 16:13and hiring and again even there there's
503. 16:15a response like the black names chosen
504. 16:17are always things like shaniqua right by
505. 16:19again sort of like good thinking white
506. 16:21activists and they're always contrasted
507. 16:23with names like tim yeah and you always
508. 16:26have to wonder how like malcolm would do
509. 16:28as versus like bubba right at any rate
510. 16:31nonetheless there obviously is
511. 16:33measurable racism but it's always this
512. 16:35subtle stuff and it's being responded to
513. 16:37with just like the most explicit
514. 16:39offensive content imaginable so like
515. 16:41yeah you're talking about the showtime
516. 16:42special where people are saying things
517. 16:44like yeah all white should still feel
518. 16:45guilty about slavery or this content
519. 16:48isn't for white people yeah it's called
520. 16:49everything's gonna be all white that
521. 16:51sounds right up there uh i think the
522. 16:53crack pipe thing would be the probably
523. 16:54the winner for me oh yeah it's hard to
524. 16:56get past a strong argument but another
525. 16:58tough one
526. 17:00but i mean another one would have to be
527. 17:02like justin trudeau i one of the things
528. 17:04i said on twitter is that justin trudeau
529. 17:05must be master of disguise from like the
530. 17:07old a-team show or from kingsman
531. 17:09because there's so many pictures of him
532. 17:10in like full-on hindu traditional garb
533. 17:13or like wearing like a war bonnet with
534. 17:15like the two eagle feathers for when you
535. 17:17killed your enemies like it's like he
536. 17:19almost wanted to get it out of his
537. 17:20system before he rose to power well but
538. 17:22i mean like so the point is like the
539. 17:24probably the most racist woke thing i've
540. 17:26seen is him wearing black face like four
541. 17:27times just for no reason
542. 17:30like for situations when he didn't have
543. 17:32to like there was an arabian night's
544. 17:35party that trudeau went to where he
545. 17:36painted his entire body black like his
546. 17:38hands were black and so on and one of
547. 17:41the things you notice if you look at the
548. 17:42pictures is that there are a bunch of
549. 17:43other people there
550. 17:44but because arabs are caucasian no one
551. 17:47else chose to paint themselves in
552. 17:48blackface right people just were like
553. 17:50dark makeup or nothing they were like a
554. 17:52hijab so you know just of his own
555. 17:54devices was like how to pay myself black
556. 17:57because i want to yeah yeah this isn't
557. 17:59the first time
558. 18:01that to me has to be one of the most
559. 18:04obviously racist
560. 18:06and this is there the thing is it's
561. 18:08entirely situational right like
562. 18:11one of the things i i don't want to keep
563. 18:13dragging in other random beats please do
564. 18:15please do well like one of the things i
565. 18:16said is like i get canceled culture i
566. 18:18guess i should try to be a gentleman and
567. 18:20i actually don't get cancelled culture
568. 18:21at all actually so i'll admit that one
569. 18:23but like i pointed out that if you look
570. 18:25at some of the things you're supposed to
571. 18:26be canceled for like there are lists of
572. 18:28these in university speech codes but
573. 18:30they're all like one of them is using
574. 18:31racial insults ever one of them is
575. 18:33telling any ethnic joke one of them is
576. 18:35sex while drunk there were like a whole
577. 18:37bunch of these things like while video
578. 18:39gaming there's no playing sports there's
579. 18:41no excuse for using slurs
580. 18:42like
581. 18:43can i curse on here
582. 18:45go for it but like one was just
583. 18:46for example and it was like the
584. 18:48percentage of men that have done that i
585. 18:50don't know about like the women's game
586. 18:51or whatever but it's about 100. so who
587. 18:54gets cancelled is very situational like
588. 18:57it's joe rogan but it's not howard stern
589. 18:59exactly and the the point is like the
590. 19:01most racist thing i've seen from kind of
591. 19:03the woke black would be justin trudeau
592. 19:05repeatedly wearing blackface just for
593. 19:06the hell of it but his cancellation risk
594. 19:08is extremely low oh yeah because you
595. 19:10they know he's going to continue to
596. 19:11support the narrative going forward so
597. 19:13there's no reason to call about his
598. 19:14cancellation now uh you you brought up
599. 19:16joe rogan which leads me to your next
600. 19:18tweet here my version of what rogan said
601. 19:20would be quote i may personally regret
602. 19:23having said uh certain terms like the
603. 19:25n-word in the context of quoting others
604. 19:28but the people attacking me are totally
605. 19:30disingenuous and dishonest and i have no
606. 19:32plans to apologize to the internet
607. 19:35continue watching or not end quote yeah
608. 19:38i mean i i think that first of all i
609. 19:40think it's extraordinarily obvious that
610. 19:41joe rogan's not a racist i think it's i
611. 19:43think it's extraordinarily obvious that
612. 19:45most people in integrated kind of up
613. 19:47middle class urban culture aren't racist
614. 19:49like racist has to have an actual
615. 19:51meaning like if you ask someone would
616. 19:53you have sex with someone of a different
617. 19:55race and then consider proposing to them
618. 19:57for marriage and the person was like yes
619. 19:59you're probably not a racist right are
620. 20:01three or more of your closest ten
621. 20:02friends say black if you're white or
622. 20:04white if you're black anyone who says
623. 20:06yes isn't a bigot in any traditional
624. 20:08sense it's actually a very coherent
625. 20:11response to your racist to say no all my
626. 20:14friends are black sure i've never
627. 20:15understood that that that's something
628. 20:17we're supposed to mock it there's again
629. 20:19that upper class working-class
630. 20:20disconnect there but basically with the
631. 20:22joe rogan thing like
632. 20:24you know i disapprove of the use of most
633. 20:26slurs just just ask if you were
634. 20:27comfortable even one on the air blah
635. 20:28blah blah but like
636. 20:30none of these cancellations around the
637. 20:31use of the n-word have involved people
638. 20:35calling someone else a racial slur glad
639. 20:38you said it and this is this is this is
640. 20:39so important here because
641. 20:42what we're doing is
642. 20:44all of this is what i call cry bullying
643. 20:46like it's just pretense like i think
644. 20:49people might be genuinely offended if
645. 20:51they personally were insulted in like a
646. 20:53racial or sexual manner i think that
647. 20:55would be understandable but what you're
648. 20:57talking about is teachers like beloved
649. 20:59old teachers being drummed out of school
650. 21:00generally to make room for newer more
651. 21:02fashionable teachers because they read
652. 21:03huck fenn out loud and nobody's actually
653. 21:06offended by that this stuff is being
654. 21:08used in a series of power games between
655. 21:10racial groups and political parties like
656. 21:12the joe rogan thing what they have is
657. 21:14over what like 14 years there's a clip
658. 21:16of him saying the n word like 20 times
659. 21:19strung together from him like
660. 21:21interviewing randall kennedy and stuff
661. 21:22like that like there's no there's no
662. 21:24offensive use of this so on down the
663. 21:26line so we're talking sympathetic magic
664. 21:28here like the idea is that if you say
665. 21:31a word that was once used to insult
666. 21:33people to say here we don't use
667. 21:35insulting terms you are canceled because
668. 21:38you've used an insulting term it's just
669. 21:40the stupidest thing in the world like
670. 21:42the dumbest example of this was actually
671. 21:44papa john
672. 21:45from papa john's pizza i remember this
673. 21:47controversy yeah and it's weird because
674. 21:49now he's getting a lot of love in the
675. 21:50black community because people know what
676. 21:52happened
677. 21:53like originally it was just like he said
678. 21:55the n-word but the reality is like this
679. 21:57blue-collar italian guy who employed a
680. 21:59lot of african-americans was talking and
681. 22:01he said you know when i was in starting
682. 22:03off in this business and i'm like i'll
683. 22:04keep saying the n-word is a joke but i'm
684. 22:06not going to like say all of these as
685. 22:07letters you know we used to say terms
686. 22:09like or nick you know slurs for
687. 22:12every i'm not gonna install 15 i think
688. 22:14reviews you gotta balance it just to get
689. 22:15all of them
690. 22:17but anyway like but he was like slurs
691. 22:19used to be used one of them was the n
692. 22:20word we don't say those anymore and i
693. 22:23don't tolerate that as a businessman you
694. 22:25might correct like one or two words i
695. 22:26just said but for that because he said
696. 22:29like three of the terms he was cancelled
697. 22:31that's the stupidest stuff in the world
698. 22:33this is the diversity training where the
699. 22:35overall boss is willing to come talk to
700. 22:36you and he says we don't do this anymore
701. 22:38and so he gets fired
702. 22:40and you have to wonder like was was the
703. 22:42next ceo like the former vp of diversity
704. 22:45like there's never a situation where
705. 22:47someone for sincere non-business reasons
706. 22:49does this crap right and i i don't know
707. 22:51if you've seen this video but it's a guy
708. 22:52going down on venice beach and
709. 22:54interviewing a bunch of people about joe
710. 22:55rogan and his use of the n word and of
711. 22:57course all the woke whites say
712. 22:58absolutely cancel him how dare he use
713. 23:00that word and then he goes up to all
714. 23:01these black people and they're like i
715. 23:02don't care i don't give a f that he said
716. 23:04this and
717. 23:05joe rogue is actually my n word it's
718. 23:08amazing the juxtaposition between those
719. 23:09two things yeah this this is actually
720. 23:11something like i grew up in the hood
721. 23:13basically i grew up in east aurora which
722. 23:15is and by the way the hood is very
723. 23:16multi-colored like i mean like 50 of
724. 23:18people 49 people in welfare are white
725. 23:20yeah so i mean like when there are
726. 23:22exceptions like you can see if you're in
727. 23:23the marxy projects that's mostly black
728. 23:25but if you're in the projects in
729. 23:26lexington it looks like united colors of
730. 23:28binnington i mean it's bennett whatever
731. 23:30i don't play soccer but like it's just
732. 23:32so
733. 23:34but i mean
734. 23:35in that entire diverse like in my entire
735. 23:38diverse upbringing watching people cheer
736. 23:40for jordan and bird and so on i never i
737. 23:43never saw people
738. 23:44make some of these arguments i never saw
739. 23:46people argue that the north in the usa
740. 23:49in the 90s was extraordinarily racist i
741. 23:51mean by this point colin powell was the
742. 23:53secretary of state i think my high
743. 23:54school had integrated in 1932 or
744. 23:56something like that this isn't to say
745. 23:57there were no restrictive covenants on
746. 23:59one side or the other side your life was
747. 24:00perfect but i mean like
748. 24:02the extent to which when you get into
749. 24:05upper middle class life and you hear the
750. 24:07level of sensitivity that goes on it can
751. 24:09be shocking is really remarkable and and
752. 24:12this is the real point the extent to
753. 24:13which this small cadre of people has
754. 24:16again infiltrated discourse like we
755. 24:17talked about in 95 to 5 and sociology
756. 24:19and academia one of the largest fields
757. 24:21it's pretty crazy so you have like with
758. 24:24things like can men get pregnant if you
759. 24:26if you get on google and you search can
760. 24:27men get pregnant nothing about
761. 24:29transgender no no softening languages
762. 24:31can men get pregnant look at the first
763. 24:32five hits
764. 24:34the influence of this tiny fringe of
765. 24:36people
766. 24:37in tech in discourse in business now is
767. 24:40is absolutely remarkable and that's
768. 24:42what's happening to joe rogan the the
769. 24:43thing is that getting back on track joe
770. 24:45rogan has a hundred million dollars in
771. 24:46the bank account from his last contract
772. 24:48right rubble's offered him 100 million
773. 24:50more if he wants to break that contract
774. 24:51to take a certain element of a loss so i
775. 24:53don't think he has anything to worry
776. 24:54about no not at all
777. 24:56you know many people do and you just
778. 24:58perfectly segued into your last tweet
779. 24:59here
780. 25:00radical idea why don't we unify and
781. 25:03utterly wipe out intellectually with
782. 25:05humor the small fringe left that has
783. 25:07infiltrated much of media and academia
784. 25:10why don't we i think people are starting
785. 25:12to like i mean just even walking through
786. 25:14like the prager complex i mean it's a
787. 25:15two-three story building and every one
788. 25:17of the things that's notable is that
789. 25:18everyone's just normal i mean i think
790. 25:20the story like i i assume everyone can
791. 25:22see all of us but like you're uh
792. 25:23african-american well-known
793. 25:25solidarity going on thank you thank you
794. 25:27caucasian obviously irving hold it down
795. 25:29for the white guys over here yeah i mean
796. 25:30like
797. 25:31from a city like you see they got the
798. 25:33dial with the dreads on it over here
799. 25:35just and like going through the building
800. 25:37the i've noticed this in a lot of
801. 25:39different environments i mean from the
802. 25:40daily caller to black media that's a
803. 25:42little heterodox like it just looks like
804. 25:44you'd expect the daily beast to look
805. 25:46right like i think the stereotype from
806. 25:49anyone on the modern dominant sort of
807. 25:51scent left would be that at least the
808. 25:53right-wing examples i've just given if
809. 25:54you walked in here it'd be a bunch of
810. 25:56amish people and priests and you know
811. 25:58women sitting around in their handmaid's
812. 25:59tale
813. 26:01you know that kind of thing um
814. 26:04but i mean i i think in reality normal
815. 26:05citizens are starting to backlash to
816. 26:08this i mean their entire colleges the
817. 26:09university of austin's currently being
818. 26:11established right kind of forming up to
819. 26:13get fight these nonsensical ideas um i
820. 26:16mean just as a blatant plug i'm a member
821. 26:18of a couple of the groups involved like
822. 26:201776 unites is the black business and
823. 26:23social science community or at least the
824. 26:25right half of it or whatever percentage
825. 26:27response to the 16 19 project and i
826. 26:30think a lot of the comments from bob
827. 26:31woodson and glenn lowry shelby steele
828. 26:34coleman hughes a lot of people involved
829. 26:35with that is a lot of this stuff kind of
830. 26:36makes us look dumb like if people argue
831. 26:39that the only cause of like any gap in
832. 26:41performance is either racism or genes
833. 26:43which you hear pretty often ah i mean
834. 26:45a lot of things right
835. 26:47like when i mentioned hispanics were
836. 26:48struggling academically often to at
837. 26:50least the same extent as blacks there's
838. 26:51a factor there is speaking primarily
839. 26:52spanish so the reality is that life is
840. 26:56complicated and these sort of
841. 26:57explanations are almost worthless so
842. 26:591776 is one example of a group
843. 27:00responding
844. 27:02a fair the foundation against
845. 27:04intolerance and racism which um beyond
846. 27:07bartnig barry weiss again glenn lowery
847. 27:09megan kelly a bunch of other people set
848. 27:11up
849. 27:11um is interesting and then it responds
850. 27:13to both traditional allegations of
851. 27:15racism we'd certainly get involved if a
852. 27:17school was like segregating and abusing
853. 27:18black kids 100 but we also respond to
854. 27:21allegations of woke racism essentially
855. 27:23like we would 100 respond if a school is
856. 27:25segregating and abusing white kids sure
857. 27:27or doing stuff like privilege walking
858. 27:28where you have eight and nine-year-old
859. 27:30kids announcing that they're bisexual or
860. 27:32saying whether or not they're children
861. 27:33of divorce so i mean i think you're
862. 27:35starting to see these massive
863. 27:36organizations as people get tired of
864. 27:38this
865. 27:39the reality is that everyone sort of
866. 27:40knows the emperor has no clothes like i
867. 27:43on twitter and like i obviously have
868. 27:45kind of a center right audience but
869. 27:46again very urban mostly people from
870. 27:47chicago and louisville probably 50 50
871. 27:50ethnically
872. 27:51actually i don't know about that a lot
873. 27:52of little key whites probably yeah there
874. 27:54might be a few sprinkled in there no but
875. 27:56i mean like but there's nothing wrong
876. 27:57with that given the idea that your
877. 27:59audience has to reflect your countrymen
878. 28:00in some exact proportions
879. 28:02bizarre yes it is like white guys i've
880. 28:05played sports with will comment on some
881. 28:07of the or was on teams at the high
882. 28:09school comment on some of the things
883. 28:10that i say and people will respond like
884. 28:13what do you know about that neighborhood
885. 28:15and they'll sort of say well i live
886. 28:16there what do you know about it i mean
887. 28:19anyway um
888. 28:21but all the all the blither aside
889. 28:23basically i think that
890. 28:25people are
891. 28:28starting to oh so the the focus here
892. 28:30though
893. 28:31diverse audience um i actually asked do
894. 28:34you believe with no qualifiers that men
895. 28:36can get pregnant just as a joke just
896. 28:38seeing how the polling response is
897. 28:39working it was like a twitter poll by a
898. 28:40survey monkey and it was like 99 no one
899. 28:43yes so i think nobody actually believes
900. 28:46this stuff what you have is a problem
901. 28:48where a lot of the upper middle class
902. 28:50and a lot of public spaces in a city
903. 28:52make it very uncomfortable to say you
904. 28:54don't believe it but just like looking
905. 28:56around the rooms here
906. 28:58or looking around my social media and my
907. 29:01group of friends the reality is that
908. 29:03we're all kind of being bamboozled
909. 29:05because no one thinks this stuff is true
910. 29:07right like a lot of the people that are
911. 29:08speaking out like glenn greenwald matt
912. 29:10tybee barry weiss jimmy dore are
913. 29:12actually sort of heterodox liberals that
914. 29:14are like we want to wipe these people
915. 29:15off the map so we can go back to
916. 29:17fighting with the conservatives about
917. 29:18birth control and so on right right
918. 29:20taxes and abortion like real issues not
919. 29:22just crap like how many sexes are there
920. 29:25so i mean i think that there's almost a
921. 29:27100 backlash to this you're gonna start
922. 29:29seeing very soon oh amazing that's a
923. 29:30very helpful message for the audience uh
924. 29:32guys to take that in so it sounds maybe
925. 29:34your short-term pessimist as far as that
926. 29:36small french people but long-term
927. 29:38optimist
928. 29:39yeah i mean so
929. 29:42both the left and the right in the past
930. 29:43have made mistakes and it depends even
931. 29:45on what you mean by left and right like
932. 29:46i wouldn't want a king for example which
933. 29:48is the ultimate extension or the actual
934. 29:50handmaid's tale society or for that
935. 29:52better modern saudi arabia um
936. 29:54the indonesian army and again i want to
937. 29:57be crude but the indonesian army
938. 29:58civilized probably second world nation
939. 30:00we spar with them on trade recently got
940. 30:02rid of mandatory virginity for troops i
941. 30:04imagine this is only enforceable for
942. 30:05women but you know that's that's all
943. 30:07that matters there's no such thing wow
944. 30:09there are there are things on the right
945. 30:11globally as someone who you grew up in
946. 30:12the bosom of holy mother church that you
947. 30:14probably would not want to implement but
948. 30:17i mean
949. 30:18i think that
950. 30:21oh the question was short-term pessimism
951. 30:22right yeah yeah yeah so
952. 30:24i i tend to ramble so no that's totally
953. 30:26fine
954. 30:28basically the point of this ramble
955. 30:29though is i think in recent history in
956. 30:31the united states
957. 30:33most of the social evils have come from
958. 30:35the left and they've done an incredibly
959. 30:37good cosmetic job of disguising this
960. 30:39like i obviously support the black civil
961. 30:41rights movement during the 1960s which
962. 30:42is not an exclusively left-wing movement
963. 30:44if you look at how republicans voted on
964. 30:46the civil rights account but almost
965. 30:48everything else from the
966. 30:50discovery of hard drugs and their social
967. 30:52popularization to the end of the sexual
968. 30:55revolution to the later waves of
969. 30:56feminism to like environmentalism with
970. 30:59no nukes like all of this stuff was
971. 31:01mostly just complete bs um the first
972. 31:04round of police defunding and community
973. 31:06policing we saw a crime increase about
974. 31:09500 between 1963 and 1993. i grew up in
975. 31:13early 90s chicago and it really was like
976. 31:14that one movie kids like you'd get on
977. 31:16the train with your skateboard and watch
978. 31:18people walk on and start painting
979. 31:19graffiti around the windows right so
980. 31:20like all of that stuff i feel
981. 31:23has been a result of certain specific
982. 31:26modern leftist policies and that's not
983. 31:28unintentional i mean if you read books
984. 31:29like ron radasha's commies for example
985. 31:31there really was a very concerted effort
986. 31:34this is not a conspiracy theory that
987. 31:35people have documented it in full
988. 31:37to funnel the former 60s radicals the
989. 31:39weathermen and so on into specifically
990. 31:42academia the ngo sector places where
991. 31:44they could continue quote unquote the
992. 31:46revolution by different means and i
993. 31:47think that's how we got this sort of
994. 31:49maoist three percent that so
995. 31:51dramatically influences society
996. 31:54um but yeah i think long term
997. 31:57that's something that can't continue i i
998. 32:00don't think people are going to allow it
999. 32:01and i think that one of the things that
1000. 32:04is making it less functional is just the
1001. 32:06availability of other platforms like sub
1002. 32:07stack local youtube so on like a lot of
1003. 32:10the people on youtube like gothic so
1004. 32:12we're talking about heterodox black
1005. 32:13women are just obviously like really
1006. 32:16high iq funny people that have a good
1007. 32:18computer in their room and they've
1008. 32:20started talking about things but people
1009. 32:22are starting to ask why do the people in
1010. 32:24academia with the qualifications sound
1011. 32:26so much stupider than this person
1012. 32:28sitting on their skateboard in detroit
1013. 32:30and it's a valid question and the answer
1014. 32:32is because they are yeah and i don't
1015. 32:33think that's a system that can endure
1016. 32:35very long yeah i think you're absolutely
1017. 32:37right i also don't think our audience
1018. 32:38has ever gotten so much information in
1019. 32:40such a short period of time you might be
1020. 32:41one of the top guests we've ever had on
1021. 32:43the show
1022. 32:45you you've killed it you've crushed it
1023. 32:46for one not one
1024. 32:48time ever you just might be maybe we'll
1025. 32:51have the audience vote in a poll down
1026. 32:52below as you guys are watching this
1027. 32:55uh that's fantastic i i you just might
1028. 32:57win i have a strong feeling wilfred how
1029. 33:00can people support you other than
1030. 33:01following you on twitter
1031. 33:04well i'm always tempted to joke and see
1032. 33:05if they could give me money the one time
1033. 33:07i actually said that people started
1034. 33:08giving me money and like i'm actually
1035. 33:09pretty financially stable so for ethical
1036. 33:11reasons it became kind of a pain in the
1037. 33:13ass i had to like give the money to
1038. 33:14charities
1039. 33:16so anyway so maybe don't
1040. 33:18but it's gonna go to charity yeah i mean
1041. 33:20so you can give me money if you want to
1042. 33:21but um the the way to follow me like i'm
1043. 33:23actually extremely wired in i actually
1044. 33:26used to run a small social media company
1045. 33:27but i'm wilfred riley it's w-i-l-f-r-e-d
1046. 33:31w-r-e-i-l-l-y
1047. 33:32and if you just search that name you'll
1048. 33:34find my twitter
1049. 33:36facebook me on the university website
1050. 33:38for ksu all that stuff great fantastic
1051. 33:40thank you guys so much for watching
1052. 33:42wilford thank you for being here