The Psychology of People Who Love Being Scared — Transcript
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- 0:01Your heart is pounding.
- 0:02Your palms are sweaty.
- 0:04Every instinct is screaming at you to run.
- 0:07And then the scare happens and you run for the exit.
- 0:10And here's the thing.
- 0:11You paid good money to be scared.
- 0:14And you'd do it again.
- 0:16But why do we do that?
- 0:17Here are five reasons from psychology,
- 0:20and the last one isn't what you'd expect.
- 0:22The first reason is
- 0:24that your body gets a real rush,
- 0:26and your mind knows it's safe.
- 0:28In 2013,
- 0:30psychologist Paul Rozin asked nearly
- 0:32four hundred people about twenty-nine things
- 0:34that are supposed to feel bad,
- 0:36like spicy food, sad movies, and thrill rides.
- 0:39And plenty of people liked them.
- 0:41Rozin calls this benign masochism.
- 0:44Your body reads danger,
- 0:47but your mind knows you're safe,
- 0:49and that is where the pleasure comes from.
- 0:52So what does it actually do to you?
- 0:53Sociologist Margee Kerr
- 0:55and her colleagues tried to find out
- 0:57at an extreme haunted attraction in Pittsburgh.
- 1:00They surveyed two hundred
- 1:02and sixty-two people who had bought tickets,
- 1:04before and after,
- 1:05and about a hundred of them also wore sensors
- 1:07that recorded their brain activity.
- 1:10Kerr's name for these experiences is a mouthful:
- 1:13voluntary arousing negative experiences.
- 1:17The key word is voluntary.
- 1:19Same hallway, same stranger, same chainsaw,
- 1:24but if you hadn't bought the ticket,
- 1:25that wouldn't be entertainment.
- 1:27That would be a very bad night.
- 1:30The result is more
- 1:32interesting than "everyone felt great."
- 1:34About half of the people felt better afterward.
- 1:37About a third felt no different.
- 1:39And around one in six actually felt worse.
- 1:43The second reason is
- 1:45that the relief is bigger afterward.
- 1:47The biggest lift went to
- 1:48people who walked in tired,
- 1:50bored or stressed.
- 1:52And among the people whose mood improved,
- 1:54their brains reacted less to later tasks,
- 1:57like something had been switched down.
- 2:00Kerr compared it to a runner's high.
- 2:02The authors call their findings exploratory,
- 2:05so treat that as a clue, not a verdict.
- 2:08But notice the pattern:
- 2:10the fear itself isn't the prize.
- 2:12The prize is what comes after.
- 2:14One idea
- 2:15that may explain this comes from Dolf Zillmann.
- 2:18In 1971 he proposed
- 2:20that your body doesn't switch
- 2:22off the moment something stops.
- 2:24The leftover arousal hangs around,
- 2:26and it gets added to whatever you feel next.
- 2:29His experiments were about anger, not horror.
- 2:32So this part is borrowed,
- 2:34not proven in a haunted house.
- 2:36But it fits the story.
- 2:38When the scare ends
- 2:39and the next feeling is relief,
- 2:41that leftover charge makes
- 2:42the relief hit harder.
- 2:44You didn't just stop being afraid.
- 2:46You stopped being afraid with
- 2:48your whole body still turned up.
- 2:50Kerr points to a
- 2:51related idea called pain offset:
- 2:54things feel better than baseline right
- 2:56when something painful stops.
- 2:58It would also explain why the first
- 3:00few minutes after the exit are all laughing
- 3:03and talking over each other.
- 3:05So if it's all about relief,
- 3:07the biggest scare should feel the best.
- 3:09It doesn't.
- 3:11By the last door, you'll see why.
- 3:13The third reason is that there's a sweet spot,
- 3:16and we like to find it.
- 3:18Now, how scary is too scary?
- 3:21A Danish team studied
- 3:22that in a real haunted house.
- 3:24They put heart-rate monitors on a hundred
- 3:26and ten visitors, aged twelve to fifty-seven,
- 3:29and asked how scared they were
- 3:31and how much they enjoyed
- 3:32it at three of the scares.
- 3:34Enjoyment followed an upside-down U.
- 3:37Barely scared, it's boring.
- 3:40Terrified, it stops being fun.
- 3:42The fun peaks in the middle.
- 3:44And the heartbeat data matched:
- 3:47fear followed the big swings in heart rate,
- 3:49while enjoyment peaked in
- 3:51a moderate, just-right range.
- 3:53The best scare isn't the biggest one.
- 3:56It's the one right below too much.
- 3:59Which also explains why a bad haunted house
- 4:02and a great one can cost the same.
- 4:05And why not everyone enjoys the same thing.
- 4:08Researchers in Denmark
- 4:09and the United States have
- 4:11sorted horror fans into three types.
- 4:14Adrenaline junkies want the rush,
- 4:16as big as possible.
- 4:17White-knucklers don't enjoy the fear itself.
- 4:20They enjoy getting through it.
- 4:22And dark copers use scary
- 4:24stories to work through real-world worries,
- 4:27in a place where nothing can really hurt them.
- 4:30That sorting comes from a 2023
- 4:33study of about five hundred horror fans
- 4:35and haunted house visitors.
- 4:37If you've ever watched a movie
- 4:39with one eye through your fingers,
- 4:41you're a white-knuckler.
- 4:42And it works.
- 4:43In a study of two hundred
- 4:45and eighty haunted house visitors,
- 4:47people who tried to push the fear up
- 4:49and people who tried to push
- 4:50it down ended up about equally satisfied.
- 4:53Either way, people were steering their own fear.
- 4:57Thinking, like telling yourself it's fake.
- 4:59Doing, like looking away.
- 5:02Or leaning on a friend.
- 5:03There's even a trait behind some of this.
- 5:06Psychologist Marvin Zuckerman called
- 5:08it sensation seeking: wanting varied,
- 5:11new, intense experiences,
- 5:13and being willing to take risks for them.
- 5:15Rozin's team found it was linked,
- 5:18moderately, to enjoying fear in particular,
- 5:21more than the other
- 5:22kinds of discomfort they tested.
- 5:23It's not the whole story.
- 5:25It's one road in.
- 5:27Don't be afraid to hit like and subscribe.
- 5:30The fourth reason is
- 5:32that we're curious about the dark,
- 5:34and a little practice may be useful.
- 5:36So what pulls us toward
- 5:37the dark in the first place?
- 5:39One answer is morbid curiosity.
- 5:42Researcher Coltan Scrivner built
- 5:44a scale to measure it,
- 5:46and found it splits into four kinds.
- 5:48Curiosity about the minds of dangerous people.
- 5:51About harm to the body.
- 5:53About violence between people.
- 5:55And about the paranormal.
- 5:57Scrivner's argument is that this isn't a glitch.
- 6:00Danger is information.
- 6:02If something can hurt you,
- 6:04you'd like to know how it works,
- 6:05preferably from a safe distance.
- 6:07In his work,
- 6:08morbid curiosity turns out to be the
- 6:10strongest predictor of being a horror fan.
- 6:13Which makes a haunted house a very expensive,
- 6:16very safe way to look at danger.
- 6:19It shows up in simple choices too.
- 6:21In 2017,
- 6:23researcher Suzanne Oosterwijk gave people a
- 6:25free choice of what to look at,
- 6:28and in three studies,
- 6:29they chose to look at
- 6:30negative scenes over neutral ones.
- 6:32Curiosity about the dark isn't just
- 6:34something people say on a survey.
- 6:36It's something they do.
- 6:38There's an even bigger idea hiding here.
- 6:41In 2021, during the pandemic, Scrivner
- 6:44and his colleagues surveyed three hundred
- 6:46and ten adults.
- 6:47Horror fans reported being more resilient.
- 6:50And fans of zombie, apocalypse
- 6:52and alien-invasion films reported
- 6:54being both more resilient
- 6:56and more prepared.
- 6:58That's a correlation.
- 6:59Maybe horror fans were
- 7:01just tougher to begin with.
- 7:02The authors say it's
- 7:04consistent with a "practice" idea:
- 7:06that rehearsing fear on the safe side
- 7:09makes the real thing a bit less strange.
- 7:11Consistent with.
- 7:13Not proof.
- 7:14But it does make
- 7:15the zombie-movie friend who stayed
- 7:17weirdly calm during the
- 7:18pandemic a little less weird.
- 7:21Now, the thing everyone assumes.
- 7:23That people who enjoy
- 7:25horror must be missing something.
- 7:27Less empathy, a colder heart.
- 7:29That idea came partly
- 7:31from an older meta-analysis
- 7:33that linked horror enjoyment to lower empathy.
- 7:36Scrivner points out
- 7:37that the strongest results in it came
- 7:39from just two studies using clips of torture
- 7:42and brutal murder,
- 7:43and says the link disappears without them.
- 7:45In his own three studies in 2024,
- 7:48horror enjoyment wasn't tied to
- 7:50lower empathy for other people's feelings.
- 7:52It was linked to better understanding of them,
- 7:55and to less coldheartedness.
- 7:56And it didn't make people any
- 7:58less generous with their own money.
- 8:00Liking the scare isn't the same as not caring.
- 8:04And the last one is the one nobody expects.
- 8:07The fifth reason is
- 8:09that it's more fun with someone beside you.
- 8:11Notice who you go with.
- 8:13Nobody does this alone.
- 8:15In 1986,
- 8:17Zillmann's team had seventy-two
- 8:18students watch a horror
- 8:20film beside a companion who acted either brave,
- 8:23indifferent or frightened.
- 8:24How much they enjoyed it
- 8:26changed with their companion's reaction.
- 8:28The pattern split along gender roles
- 8:31that look dated now, and the study was small.
- 8:33But the point is easy to believe:
- 8:36part of the fun is somebody else's face,
- 8:38and how they take the
- 8:39scare changes how you take it.
- 8:41You may have heard the date-night version:
- 8:44that scary experiences make
- 8:45people fall for each other.
- 8:47The famous bridge study from 1974 did find it.
- 8:51But a 1979 paper reported
- 8:53four failed attempts to repeat it.
- 8:56So treat that one as unproven.
- 8:58What is real is simpler.
- 9:01Sharing a scare changes it.
- 9:03So, why do we pay to be scared?
- 9:06Because your body gets a real rush,
- 9:09and your mind knows it's safe.
- 9:11Because the relief is bigger afterward.
- 9:13Because there's a sweet spot,
- 9:16and we like to find it.
- 9:17Because we're curious about the dark,
- 9:20and a little practice may be useful.
- 9:22And because it's more
- 9:23fun with someone beside you.
- 9:25And if you just hate being scared,
- 9:28that's okay too.
- 9:29Even in Kerr's haunted house study,
- 9:31not everyone felt better afterward.
- 9:34But if you're the one in
- 9:35the queue this Halloween, shaking, grinning,
- 9:38already planning your next one,
- 9:40now you know a little more
- 9:41about what's going on in there.
- 9:43A body that's alarmed.
- 9:45A mind that knows better.
- 9:47And a very good reason to
- 9:48hold on to your friend's arm.
- 9:50You're not broken.
- 9:52You might just be practicing.
- 9:54Another episode is on screen now,
- 9:57about the people who
- 9:58choose to suffer on purpose:
- 10:00Dark Souls players.
- 10:02Watch it next.
- 10:03If you enjoyed the video, like and subscribe,
- 10:05because there's always more of your
- 10:07brain to explore with Biased Mind.
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