The Power of Habit: Charles Duhigg at TEDxTeachersCollege — Transcript
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- 0:06My name is Charles Duhigg and I'm the
- 0:08author of this book The Power of Habit.
- 0:10So, imagine for a minute that
- 0:12you have this cookie problem. Okay, a
- 0:15cookie habit. Every day you go up in the
- 0:17afternoon, let's say you work in a
- 0:18building in Midtown that's called The
- 0:21New York Times and on the on the 14th
- 0:23floor is this cafeteria with this
- 0:24amazing amazing cookie selection. And
- 0:27you put this little note on your monitor
- 0:29that says do not eat the cookie and then
- 0:31every afternoon you manage to ignore
- 0:33that note and go upstairs and get a
- 0:35cookie. And imagine for a minute that
- 0:37this has caused you to put on a little
- 0:38bit of weight. Let's say roughly 8.7 lb.
- 0:43And when I say you, what I actually mean
- 0:44is me because I'm describing my life
- 0:48eating cookies. So, I I was really
- 0:50interested in why I, a successful human
- 0:52being, won a Pulitzer Prize last week. I
- 0:54think I'm a pretty smart guy. Why I have
- 0:56this difficulty resisting cookies,
- 0:59right? There's a lot of things I can do
- 1:00in my life. I began researching the
- 1:02science of habits, what how habits work
- 1:04and and what I learned is that we're
- 1:06actually living through this golden age
- 1:08of understanding the neurology of habit
- 1:09formation. I ended up writing this book
- 1:11out of it. And I want to tell you a
- 1:12little bit about what I learned and what
- 1:14it has to do with teaching kids and
- 1:16mindfulness, but in order to do that I
- 1:17first of all have to tell you a story
- 1:18about a rat.
- 1:19Um
- 1:20Anyone here ever experiment with rats
- 1:22before?
- 1:23Anyone ever ride the subway?
- 1:26Okay, then you've done a lot of
- 1:27experiments with rats. There's a woman
- 1:28named Dr. Ann Graybiel who has for years
- 1:31been doing experiments with rats. She's
- 1:32a neurologist and for years she was
- 1:33trying to get sensors into rats' cranium
- 1:35so she could measure what was going on
- 1:37inside their skulls.
- 1:38This took a long time and a lot of rats.
- 1:41But eventually she got to a point when
- 1:42she could get about 150 sensors inside a
- 1:44rat's skull and she could measure its
- 1:45neurological activity. What she do with
- 1:47each rat after it woke up from the
- 1:48surgery was the exact same thing. She
- 1:50would drop it in the world's simplest
- 1:51maze. We works the same way every single
- 1:53time. Click, a partition would move, the
- 1:55rat's free to run through the maze and
- 1:56find the chocolate.
- 1:57Every rat when you drop it in the maze
- 1:59the first time acts like the world's
- 2:00laziest animal. It'll like wander up and
- 2:03down. It'll get to the end. It'll see
- 2:04the chocolate. It'll go the other
- 2:05direction. It takes on average about 13
- 2:07minutes for it to find the chocolate.
- 2:09And for years people thought that this
- 2:11is because rats are unusually dumb. And
- 2:13then if a rat can learn something then
- 2:15any animal could learn it. But Dr.
- 2:17Graybiel could actually see inside the
- 2:18rat's head. And what she saw was kind of
- 2:20fascinating. This is a simplified
- 2:21neurological graph the first time a a
- 2:23rat's dropped in this maze. There's all
- 2:24these spikes in activity, right?
- 2:26Basically the rat would like scratch the
- 2:27walls and the scratching centers of its
- 2:28brain would light up. Or it'd find the
- 2:29chocolate and the pleasure centers would
- 2:31light up. This is what unmediated
- 2:33learning looks like. So Dr. Graybiel
- 2:35takes this rat. She drops each of them
- 2:36in the maze again and again, 150 times
- 2:38each.
- 2:39Over time unsurprisingly the rat learns
- 2:41how to run through the maze faster and
- 2:42faster and faster find the chocolate.
- 2:43But what's really interesting is what
- 2:45happens inside its head.
- 2:47As the rat learns to run faster and
- 2:48faster, as finding the chocolate becomes
- 2:50more of an automatic habit,
- 2:53the rat starts thinking less and less
- 2:54and less. This graph on the bottom is a
- 2:56simplified neurological graph of the
- 2:58150th iteration through that maze.
- 3:00What you'll notice is this deep valley
- 3:01there, right? That's the same valley you
- 3:03would see if the rat went to sleep.
- 3:06Now, all of us have habits, right?
- 3:08There's a There's a researcher named
- 3:09Wendy Wood who followed around a couple
- 3:10thousand people to see how much of our
- 3:12daily behaviors are habits. And what she
- 3:13found is about 40 to 45% of the
- 3:16decisions we make actually every day
- 3:17aren't actually decisions. They're
- 3:19habits. And if somehow I could get 150
- 3:22sensors into your head, this is exactly
- 3:24what I would see.
- 3:25Your mental activity dropping off in the
- 3:27middle of that habit. When you
- 3:29um you know, remember waking up in the
- 3:31morning and walking in the subway and
- 3:32now you're at your desk but you don't
- 3:33remember what happened in the middle. Or
- 3:35when you decided that morning to have a
- 3:37salad but you get to lunch and you order
- 3:38a hamburger just like you did yesterday.
- 3:41This is what's happening. Your brain is
- 3:42kind of turning off.
- 3:44With these two interesting exceptions.
- 3:46At the beginning of the habit when the
- 3:47rat would hear the click, there'd be
- 3:49this burst of activity. And then
- 3:50essentially the brain would power down.
- 3:52And then at the end when it found the
- 3:54chocolate, it's as if the rat would sort
- 3:55of shake itself awake again and notice
- 3:57what was going on.
- 3:58Within neurology, this is such an
- 4:00important idea and finding that has
- 4:02become known as what as the habit loop.
- 4:04And what it says is that every habit has
- 4:05three components. There's a cue, which
- 4:07is like an automatic trigger for a
- 4:08behavior to start. And then a routine,
- 4:11which is the behavior itself. And then
- 4:12finally a reward that helps your brain
- 4:15remember that pattern for the future.
- 4:17Every habit has cues and rewards. And
- 4:20for years everyone from Aristotle to
- 4:21Oprah, when they've talked about habits,
- 4:23they focused on the routine, on the
- 4:25behavior. But what we've learned the
- 4:26last decade is that it's the cue and the
- 4:28reward that influence how habits
- 4:31function.
- 4:32Uh
- 4:33just to give me an example of this. Does
- 4:34anyone here exercise?
- 4:36It's a young audience. Anyone here wish
- 4:38that they exercise? I realize this.
- 4:40Okay. So there was an experiment that
- 4:42was done in Germany where they took a
- 4:43audience like this and they said, "All
- 4:44of you should exercise." And then they
- 4:45took about a third of the audience and
- 4:47they said, "Okay, look, this is what I
- 4:48want you to do. Choose a cue, like
- 4:50always put your running shoes next to
- 4:52your bed, or go running with the same
- 4:53group of friends. And then when you get
- 4:55back from working out, give yourself a
- 4:58small piece of chocolate.
- 5:00Right? This is counterintuitive because
- 5:01not many people exercise in order to eat
- 5:03chocolate, or at least not quite that
- 5:05directly.
- 5:07And yet what the researchers suspected
- 5:08is that even though all of you
- 5:10think that you want to exercise, your
- 5:12brain thinks you're a liar and that you
- 5:14hate exercise. And the only way that I
- 5:16can trick you into exercise is to give
- 5:18yourself a reward you genuinely enjoy,
- 5:19like a small piece of chocolate. And in
- 5:21fact, six months after they did this,
- 5:23they found that 58% of those people were
- 5:25more likely to be exercising. And they'd
- 5:27stopped eating the chocolate. Cuz their
- 5:29head brain had learned there's
- 5:30endorphins and endocannabinoids, these
- 5:32neurotransmitters
- 5:33that reward us for physical activity.
- 5:36But you kind of have to bootstrap your
- 5:37brain into believing that those rewards
- 5:40are real with a reward that you
- 5:41genuinely enjoy, like chocolate.
- 5:44All of which brings me kind of
- 5:46improbably to Starbucks and what
- 5:48Starbucks can teach us about teaching
- 5:49and mindfulness.
- 5:51What does Starbucks sell?
- 5:54Coffee, right? No, wrong. That Starbucks
- 5:56doesn't sell coffee kind of Starbucks
- 5:58kind of sells coffee, right? They they
- 6:00give you coffee in exchange for your
- 6:01money. But if you talk to Starbucks,
- 6:04what they will tell you that they
- 6:05actually sell is customer service.
- 6:08This is why they can pay they can charge
- 6:10you $4.50 for a latte that cost about 13
- 6:12cents is because when you walk in
- 6:14there's wood paneling and soft music and
- 6:16there's someone who asks your name and
- 6:18they write it in big cursive letters,
- 6:20right? This Starbucks believes is the
- 6:23centerpiece of their entire business
- 6:25model is customer service.
- 6:28The problem for Starbucks is that most
- 6:29of their employees are high school
- 6:31graduates or high school students or
- 6:32recent high school graduates, people
- 6:34with no professional experience. And the
- 6:36problem is many of you know with being a
- 6:38high high school student or a recent
- 6:39high school graduate is that you act
- 6:41like a high schooler or a recent high
- 6:42school graduate. You act like a
- 6:44right? Like I acted like a for an
- 6:46entire decade after I graduated.
- 6:48And for Starbucks this is a problem
- 6:49because they had employees who couldn't
- 6:51deliver customer service. This became
- 6:53particularly a problem in the age of
- 6:55YouTube and I'm going to show you why.
- 6:57Before I show you something, imagine for
- 6:58a minute that you worked at Starbucks.
- 7:00You oversee 250 million dollars a year
- 7:03in advertising. You've had a long day,
- 7:05you come home from work, you sit on your
- 7:07couch and you open a beer, you turn on
- 7:09the TV and this is what you see.
- 7:11She was a loyal customer of Starbucks,
- 7:14loved the coffee, loved the service, but
- 7:16that changed a few weeks ago. This
- 7:17native New Yorker got steamed, not about
- 7:20what was inside her cup, but something
- 7:22written on the outside. That's what she
- 7:24called Nina Paneda and ordered a special
- 7:25brew of fully caffeinated 7 On Your
- 7:28Side.
- 7:29And then when you looked at it, what did
- 7:31you think?
- 7:31I was shocked. I didn't I didn't
- 7:33understand why. Why would they do that?
- 7:35Vicky Reveron is talking about this
- 7:37Starbucks cup. On the side a Starbucks
- 7:39employee wrote what she ordered, a
- 7:40caramel Frappuccino. But instead of
- 7:42scrolling her name on the side, she says
- 7:44he wrote the B-word. It says
- 7:48My name is not it's Vicky.
- 7:52So, if you've ever wondered idly what
- 7:53$250 million sounds like going up in
- 7:55flames all at once,
- 7:59turns out it sounds like my name is in
- 8:00beep, it's Vicky.
- 8:02Starbucks went and did an investigation
- 8:04to figure out what happened here. The
- 8:05Vicky was served by this kid named
- 8:06Eduardo, right? 19-year-old kid,
- 8:08employed for 8 months, he'd been doing a
- 8:09great job. The night before Vicky comes
- 8:11in, he had a fight with his mom. And
- 8:14he's hour seven into an 8-hour shift,
- 8:16and this woman comes in who orders this
- 8:18coffee with a bad word on it, drinks the
- 8:21entire cup of coffee,
- 8:23goes home, changes clothes into a nice
- 8:25blue blouse, comes back to the
- 8:27Starbucks, calls a TV camera, waits 45
- 8:31minutes for the TV camera to show up,
- 8:32and then gives this interview.
- 8:34Which is all a long way of saying,
- 8:36Eduardo might have been totally right,
- 8:37right?
- 8:40But it doesn't matter. For Starbucks,
- 8:41this is a disaster, right? Like, it
- 8:43doesn't matter how rude a
- 8:45customer is, Starbucks delivers customer
- 8:48service. This is their basic promise.
- 8:50They are going to treat you nicely
- 8:52regardless of who you are. So, Howard
- 8:54Schultz and his team, there's been
- 8:56incident after incident like this, and
- 8:57they have this meeting to try and figure
- 8:59out, how are we going to fix this?
- 9:01Because this keeps on happening. And
- 9:02what they discovered, they decide is, we
- 9:04need to increase our employees'
- 9:05willpower. What they notice is that
- 9:07about
- 9:0810 to 15% of their employees would do
- 9:10great. And then they would have this one
- 9:12shift where they would fall apart,
- 9:14usually about seven, six and a half to
- 9:16seven hours into a shift. And they
- 9:18figured what they needed to do is figure
- 9:19out how to give their employees
- 9:21willpower to make it through that 8-hour
- 9:22shift, so they don't do something stupid
- 9:24like write a bad word on a cup. Now,
- 9:26luckily for them, there had been a whole
- 9:27bunch of research that had been done
- 9:29into willpower. Most of you are probably
- 9:30familiar with this cuz since you come
- 9:31from a teaching background, the most
- 9:33famous of course being the marshmallow
- 9:34test. They I I you guys have heard of
- 9:35the marshmallow test?
- 9:37For anyone who hasn't, this is how it
- 9:38worked. There was this researcher in the
- 9:391960s at Stanford. He had a 4-year-old
- 9:41daughter. He took her and a whole bunch
- 9:43of her friends and he put them in a room
- 9:44one by one. He'd put a marshmallow in
- 9:46front of them and he would say, "Okay,
- 9:47look, here's the deal. You can eat that
- 9:49marshmallow.
- 9:50I'm going to leave the room for 10
- 9:51minutes. If when I come back, the
- 9:52marshmallow is still there, then you
- 9:54will get a second marshmallow."
- 9:56Now, I actually have myself a 4-year-old
- 9:58at home, and so I can tell you that
- 10:00putting a marshmallow in front of a
- 10:014-year-old is like putting crack cocaine
- 10:03in front of an addict. Like there's
- 10:05nothing more tempting. This experiment
- 10:07has been replicated. Let me show you
- 10:08some tape of what happens when you put a
- 10:09marshmallow in front of a 4-year-old.
- 10:11I'm going to go do something and then
- 10:12I'll come back.
- 10:13It smells yummy.
- 10:16Oh, it smells really good.
- 10:39Only one of these kids was able to make
- 10:42it the entire 10 minutes. Let me show
- 10:44you which one.
- 10:50How'd you do?
- 10:52Did you do good?
- 10:54You did?
- 10:55You wanted to eat it, didn't you?
- 10:57Yeah. So, did I tell you I'd give you
- 10:58another one?
- 10:59Okay. Now you can have them both.
- 11:01You need them.
- 11:07So, this guy, Mischel, he does his
- 11:08experiment, right? He finds that about
- 11:1010 to 15% of the 4-year-olds, they could
- 11:12resist the marshmallow. He writes his
- 11:14results in late 1960s, publishes it,
- 11:16nobody cares. Nobody pays any attention.
- 11:19And a couple years later, his daughter's
- 11:20in fifth grade, and remember she's one
- 11:21of the test subjects. He's talking to
- 11:22her and he's like trying, struggling to
- 11:24get her to tell him about her day.
- 11:26And he's asking about her friends, and
- 11:28she says, "Well, Susie keeps on getting
- 11:29into trouble, but Jimmy's doing well in
- 11:31class." And he realizes he's listening
- 11:33that the kids she says are doing well
- 11:35are the same kids who had managed to
- 11:36resist the marshmallow.
- 11:38So, he goes and he finds them in middle
- 11:40school. He finds them in high school. He
- 11:42finds them in college and post college.
- 11:43It's one of the largest longitudinal
- 11:44studies that's been done, as many of you
- 11:45know. And he finds that the kids who
- 11:48managed to resist the marshmallow were
- 11:50more successful than their peers by like
- 11:53a stick to a statistically significant
- 11:55amount. He finds that they were getting
- 11:57their homework done more frequently on
- 11:58time. They're showing up for class more
- 11:59time. They were more popular in high
- 12:01school. Not necessarily because they
- 12:02were like prettier or richer, but
- 12:04because they were just better at being
- 12:06friends. They got into better colleges.
- 12:08They got better jobs, higher paying
- 12:10jobs. They got married earlier and
- 12:11stayed married longer. It There's As
- 12:14many of you know, there's literally been
- 12:15hundreds of studies on willpower since
- 12:16then, most notably by Angela Duckworth
- 12:17at the University of Pennsylvania. And
- 12:19all of them have found that willpower
- 12:21seems to be the single greatest
- 12:23correlate with future success, right?
- 12:24More so than high IQ, more so than
- 12:26having rich parents with a lot of
- 12:27resources. Willpower seems to be this
- 12:30thing that prepares people for life.
- 12:33And for Starbucks, this is fantastic
- 12:34because this is exactly what they want.
- 12:35They want to teach their employees
- 12:37willpower. But the question is how do
- 12:39you teach people willpower? And the
- 12:41answer is
- 12:42through habits. By choosing a reaction
- 12:45ahead of time
- 12:46and by making people conscious of what
- 12:49they're going to do when they feel hot
- 12:50blooded in a cold blooded state. Within
- 12:52economics, this is known as the hot cold
- 12:54empathy gap. That basically, in the
- 12:56morning when you wake up and you've had
- 12:57a big breakfast, you are certain that
- 12:59you are going to eat healthy and have a
- 13:00salad that day. And as soon as you walk
- 13:02into the cafeteria and you're hot
- 13:03blooded, you decide the hamburger looks
- 13:06a lot better. So, how do you preserve
- 13:07that decision making from the morning
- 13:10into the moment of temptation? How do
- 13:12you create more willpower?
- 13:15What's really interesting is if you look
- 13:16at the tape, if turn off the sound on
- 13:17this one.
- 13:18The kids who fail at this are kids who
- 13:21constantly remind themselves about the
- 13:23marshmallow. Like watch this kid, even
- 13:25when he tries to ignore it, he hits the
- 13:27plate and he reminds himself These kids
- 13:29like they all do these things where they
- 13:30can't help not paying attention to the
- 13:33marshmallow.
- 13:34Now, contrast that with the kid that I
- 13:36showed you who actually resisted for 10
- 13:38minutes. When researchers asked him what
- 13:40he did, he said that halfway through he
- 13:42decided that he was not going to look at
- 13:45the marshmallow. That he was not going
- 13:47to pay any attention to it. That if he
- 13:49had to think about the marshmallow, he
- 13:50was going to imagine a frame around it.
- 13:53So that it reminded him of a photo.
- 13:56This is how we teach willpower.
- 13:58We teach people to make a decision ahead
- 14:00of time
- 14:02that they apply when they see a cue.
- 14:04And then we give them a reward. That kid
- 14:06who resisted the marshmallow, he said
- 14:07that he had decided ahead of time if he
- 14:09could make it the whole 10 minutes, he
- 14:10was going to shove both marshmallows
- 14:12into his mouth at the same time. And
- 14:13that's exactly what he did.
- 14:17So, how do you change a habit? How do I
- 14:18change my cookie habit?
- 14:20The answer is by premeditating the cues
- 14:23and rewards. By deciding ahead of time
- 14:25what you're going to see when you see
- 14:26that trigger, and then what your reward
- 14:29is going to be. And it has to be
- 14:30specific. Saying, "I'm going to lose
- 14:32weight." doesn't work. Saying, "I'm not
- 14:34going to eat a cookie today." does not
- 14:37bring you success.
- 14:38What you instead do is you say, "At 3:15
- 14:41in the afternoon, instead of going up to
- 14:43the cafeteria, I'm going to stand up and
- 14:45I'm going to walk over to someone's desk
- 14:47cuz I think part of the reason why I'm
- 14:48going up to the cafeteria is that it's
- 14:50fun to gossip with my friends and all my
- 14:52friends are in the cafeteria. So,
- 14:53instead of going up there, I'm going to
- 14:54look for someone else to go gossip
- 14:56with." And at 3:15 you stand up, that's
- 14:58your cue. You walk over to someone
- 15:00else's desk, in this case a guy named
- 15:01Michael Barbaro,
- 15:03and you gossip about whoever happens to
- 15:04be out of earshot for the next 20
- 15:06minutes.
- 15:07And you decide, "I'm going to gossip
- 15:09hard."
- 15:11That's your reward. And then you go back
- 15:13to your desk.
- 15:15And
- 15:16I don't really like to brag about these
- 15:17things, but since then I've lost about
- 15:1921 lb and it's worked out pretty well
- 15:21for me.
- 15:22Thanks.
- 15:24The point being,
- 15:26this is what we know about habits.
- 15:29They have cues and rewards.
- 15:31And if you decide ahead of time, if you
- 15:33engage in this mindfulness in your life
- 15:35where you're aware of what's driving
- 15:37these nearly subconscious behaviors
- 15:39where your brain actually turns off,
- 15:41if you indulge yourself to pay attention
- 15:44to the things that otherwise kind of
- 15:45happen at the peripheries of our
- 15:46consciousness, we know from study after
- 15:48study, you have the ability to change
- 15:51any habit in your life. Thank you very
- 15:53much.
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