The (Overdue) Collapse of Bullsh*t Companies — Transcript
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- 0:00In December 2024, [music]
- 0:01the Australian government hired the
- 0:03world's largest corporate firm to give
- 0:05them advice on how to fix one of the
- 0:06country's most [music] pressing issues,
- 0:08an automated welfare system which
- 0:10penalized the nation's most [music]
- 0:12vulnerable. And after a rigorous 7-month
- 0:14brainstorm and $290,000
- 0:17in [music] fees, the results were back.
- 0:20However, there was just one issue. All
- 0:22the hard work that Deloitte had been
- 0:23doing had been done by AI. The report
- 0:26included fake references, fake quotes
- 0:29from a fake court hearing, and even a
- 0:31citation to trusted academic work, all
- 0:34of which didn't exist. While this might
- 0:36seem like a somewhat extreme example,
- 0:38these firms have been getting away with
- 0:40dressing up obvious advice and solutions
- 0:42behind extreme [music] price tags for
- 0:44decades. That is, until the last couple
- 0:46of years.
- 0:47>> The accounting giant PwC is facing an
- 0:49existential crisis. Revelations that its
- 0:51senior partners misused confidential
- 0:54government information to help
- 0:55multinational tech companies avoid tax
- 0:58has rocked the firm to its foundations.
- 1:00>> Round after round of layoffs are
- 1:02starting [music] to puncture these big
- 1:04companies. But while the problem is most
- 1:06acute with the Big Four, [music] the
- 1:08same problems are showing up across
- 1:09pretty much the entire corporate world.
- 1:12Bloated firms that have gotten away with
- 1:14overcharging for decades are seeing
- 1:15their [music] business model begin to
- 1:17fall apart. And while you might think
- 1:19that the industry is just another
- 1:20[music] victim of the AI revolution,
- 1:22while in part that's true, there's
- 1:24actually a lot more going on here. Over
- 1:27the past few decades, [music]
- 1:28corporate America has hollowed out its
- 1:30competition. But doing that comes
- 1:32[music] with its own risks, and firms
- 1:34are only now just starting to pay the
- 1:36price.
- 1:38Okay, so pretty much anyone who's worked
- 1:40a corporate job knows that these
- 1:41companies can be a bit of a joke these
- 1:43days. In 2014, in what should have been
- 1:46a routine audit, PwC managed to
- 1:48overstate Tesco's projected quarterly
- 1:51profit by 250 million pounds, almost 30%
- 1:55higher than what they actually brought
- 1:57in. And events like these aren't a
- 1:59simple one-off. Time and time again,
- 2:01these companies have made massive
- 2:02mistakes on what should be fairly basic,
- 2:04if lengthy tasks. However, there was
- 2:07actually a time when these kind of
- 2:08American corporations [music]
- 2:10were the envy of the world for the high
- 2:12quality of work that they would do.
- 2:14>> [music]
- 2:15>> The 1970s saw the birth of the modern
- 2:17era of multinational corporations. After
- 2:20conquering America in the decades prior,
- 2:22[music] companies like IBM, Coca-Cola,
- 2:25and Ford began building operations that
- 2:27spread to every corner of the globe. But
- 2:29that presented a unique challenge. How
- 2:31do you keep track of money moving
- 2:33through [music] dozens of countries at
- 2:34once when every single one of those
- 2:36branches operates [music] under a
- 2:38completely different tax code and a
- 2:40different set of accounting rules?
- 2:41Ideally, you'd have one trusted, [music]
- 2:43independent outsider who could come in
- 2:45and check the books the same way
- 2:47everywhere, no matter which country
- 2:49you're operating in, which is what gave
- 2:50rise to these. Originally known as the
- 2:52Big Eight, they were firms which
- 2:54specialized in verifying companies'
- 2:56financial statements. They sat at the
- 2:57very heart of corporate America, helping
- 3:00run the biggest organizations in the
- 3:02Western world. By the late 1980s, the
- 3:04Big Eight together controlled about 98%
- 3:06of all public company audits. But
- 3:08gradually, as time went on, firms that
- 3:10couldn't keep pace with their bigger
- 3:11rivals got absorbed by them. So by the
- 3:13start of the 2000s, only five of the big
- 3:16original eight were left. Now, in
- 3:18theory, it's not anything unusual for
- 3:20the worst-performing firms [music] to go
- 3:22extinct. After all, that happens all the
- 3:24time to smaller corporations in history.
- 3:26But problems start to emerge when new
- 3:28firms aren't able to come into the
- 3:29[music] market at all. And in a sector
- 3:31like financial auditing, that's
- 3:33exceptionally difficult. Imagine you're
- 3:35running a multinational corporation
- 3:36[music] that sells cars across Europe,
- 3:38and it comes to that time of the year
- 3:40again, and you need to do an annual
- 3:42audit. You're presented with two
- 3:43options: a new startup audit firm that
- 3:45nobody has ever heard of, or one of the
- 3:48same multinational auditing firm who's
- 3:50been checking your books for decades and
- 3:52probably does the same for all your
- 3:54competitors and most of the governments
- 3:56of Europe. [music] On the balance of
- 3:57probability, you're probably going to go
- 3:59with the latter. After all, this isn't
- 4:01really the kind of thing that you want
- 4:02[music] to take a risk on. The point is,
- 4:04it's a world built on reputation and
- 4:06that's exceptionally difficult to build
- 4:08from scratch. So, over the last couple
- 4:09of decades, we've seen this same effect
- 4:11[music] of consolidation play out across
- 4:13all sorts of industries in corporate
- 4:15America. Three credit rating agencies,
- 4:17S&P, Moody's and Fitch, [music]
- 4:19collectively control about 96% of the
- 4:22global ratings market, a dominance
- 4:24they've held for over a century. And
- 4:25it's the same for strategy consulting.
- 4:27McKinsey, BCG and Bain dominate not
- 4:30because nobody else can do the analysis,
- 4:32but because we hired McKinsey is a much
- 4:35>> [music]
- 4:35>> easier sentence to say in a board
- 4:36meeting than we hired a firm that nobody
- 4:39has ever heard of. Law, finance, [music]
- 4:41asset management, private equity, all of
- 4:43these industries are increasingly
- 4:45dominated by a smaller and smaller
- 4:47number of firms. And in practice, that
- 4:49means these companies can get away with
- 4:51offering worse and worse services
- 4:53because they know that their buyers
- 4:54don't really have any sort of
- 4:56alternative. [music]
- 4:56Now, big corporations across all sorts
- 4:58of industries have been getting away
- 5:00with charging huge prices for sub-par
- 5:02services simply because they control
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- 6:02As the quality of the services which a
- 6:04lot of the country relies on continues
- 6:06to decline, something is eventually
- 6:07going to go badly wrong. And in 2001,
- 6:10that's exactly what happened. By the
- 6:12late 1990s, Enron was one of the most
- 6:14admired companies in America, an energy
- 6:16trading giant worth tens of billions of
- 6:19dollars on paper, and its auditor was
- 6:21Arthur Andersen, one [music] of the Big
- 6:23Five. And the relationship between these
- 6:25two companies was extremely lucrative.
- 6:27In the year 2000 alone,
- 6:29>> [music]
- 6:29>> Andersen earned $25 million in audit
- 6:31fees and an additional $27 million in
- 6:34consulting fees, both from Enron.
- 6:37However, behind the scenes, Enron was
- 6:39quietly hiding roughly $20 billion in
- 6:41debt off its balance sheet using a web
- 6:44of shell companies built specifically to
- 6:46make Enron look far more profitable than
- 6:48it really was. Of course, spotting that
- 6:49kind of manipulation was exactly what
- 6:51Arthur Andersen was getting paid for.
- 6:53They just completely failed. And when
- 6:55that came out, it cost the company so
- 6:57much that just 9 months down the line,
- 6:59they completely collapsed. [music] The
- 7:01trouble is, rather than learning the
- 7:03lesson from this that corporate America
- 7:05had become uncompetitive and needed to
- 7:07be broken up, the opposite ended up
- 7:09happening. Today, those four remaining
- 7:11audit companies audit every major
- 7:13organization in the Western world. Of
- 7:15the 500 biggest corporations in America,
- 7:18498 are audited by these companies.
- 7:20[music]
- 7:21And when a firm picked which company
- 7:22they're going to go with, it takes them
- 7:24an average of 23 years to change once.
- 7:27This is BCE Inc.,
- 7:29>> [music]
- 7:29>> Canada's largest telecommunications
- 7:31company, and it's been audited by
- 7:33Deloitte for 144 years. [music] Now,
- 7:35that might sound like a recipe for
- 7:37subpar service, and in many ways it is.
- 7:40But [music] as long as these firms could
- 7:41maintain the illusion of prestige, it
- 7:43just about works. The problem is, after
- 7:45decades of charging millions for orders
- 7:48that [music] aren't even accurate,
- 7:49people do eventually start to notice. In
- 7:512022, regulators found that 43% of EY's
- 7:55[music] orders had what they called a
- 7:57deficiency. Essentially meaning that the
- 7:59auditor didn't even gather enough
- 8:00evidence to actually support the opinion
- 8:02it was signing off on. The following
- 8:04year, they were forced to walk away from
- 8:0684 audit clients, giving up $215 million
- 8:09in fees. And it's not just them, either.
- 8:12Regulators found that the average
- 8:13deficiency rate across all Big Four
- 8:15firms more than doubled in just 2 years,
- 8:18from 12% in 2020 [music]
- 8:20to 26% by 2022. Given that, it's hardly
- 8:23surprising that firms are increasingly
- 8:26choosing to bring in what they call
- 8:28in-house, or moving these services out
- 8:30to smaller firms. And this isn't just an
- 8:32audit story. It's the same pattern
- 8:34playing out right across the corporate
- 8:35world. These giant firms spent decades
- 8:38building themselves [music] into
- 8:39effective monopolies on the back of the
- 8:41idea that what they did was so
- 8:43prestigious that nobody would ever
- 8:45seriously challenge them. However, the
- 8:46problem is, once they became safe, the
- 8:48quality began to quietly slip year after
- 8:51year, until eventually the firms that
- 8:53were supposed to be the kind of gold
- 8:55standard in the industry
- 8:56>> [music]
- 8:56>> are now the ones that are rubbish and
- 8:58don't even do the job they're paid for.
- 8:59Now, it's important to remember that a
- 9:01big part of why these firms were able to
- 9:04dominate for so long wasn't just their
- 9:06reputation, but the scale of cheap,
- 9:08high-quality labor that they could
- 9:10attract. [music] For decades, the best
- 9:12graduates from the best universities
- 9:14funneled straight into some version of
- 9:15accounting, law, or finance almost by
- 9:18default. At Harvard, roughly 57% of the
- 9:21class of 2022 went straight into
- 9:23finance, consulting, or technology. And
- 9:25that made it insanely hard for smaller
- 9:27firms to compete with them, as their
- 9:29name brands just didn't have the same CV
- 9:31attraction for fresh grads. But, ever
- 9:33since the introduction of AI, that
- 9:35advantage has been massively eroded. The
- 9:38very same tasks which gave these massive
- 9:40firms a competitive edge are exactly the
- 9:42kind of work that AI massively speeds
- 9:44up. [music] Data extraction, pattern
- 9:46matching, document review. The actual
- 9:49grunt work [music] that used to require
- 9:50armies of junior staff can now be done
- 9:53faster and cheaper by software
- 9:55supervised by a smaller and smaller
- 9:57team. And perhaps most critically, none
- 9:59of this groundbreaking technology is
- 10:01exclusive to the old corporate [music]
- 10:03giants, which massively reduces the
- 10:05barrier to entry to compete in the
- 10:07market. Okay, so the sudden introduction
- 10:09of AI, along with the fact that the
- 10:11services the Big Four were providing
- 10:12just weren't that good, has meant that
- 10:14the companies have been bleeding clients
- 10:16for years now. But there's actually an
- 10:18even bigger threat to these companies
- 10:20which might bring them down even sooner.
- 10:22Government antitrust. Starting in the
- 10:241980s, what was then the Big Eight
- 10:26realized something very important. Given
- 10:29how good their reputations had become,
- 10:31they didn't just need to sell an actual
- 10:32service. [music] Instead, they could
- 10:34simply sell advice. That's what gave the
- 10:36rise to corporate management
- 10:38consultancies as we all know and love
- 10:40today. Deloitte Consulting, [music]
- 10:41PwC Strategy, EY Parthenon, and KPMG
- 10:45Advisory. They all almost exist as a
- 10:48branch of these original auditing firms.
- 10:50By 2023, the Big Four were pulling in 95
- 10:53billion dollars from advisory services
- 10:56alone. More than the 66 billion that
- 10:58they made from audit and assurance
- 11:00combined. But it also presents a bit of
- 11:02a problem. Remember, the job of an
- 11:04auditing company is to independently
- 11:06verify that a company's financial
- 11:08statements are accurate. At the same
- 11:10time, the job of a consultancy is to try
- 11:12and improve how that same company runs.
- 11:15In effect, you've got the exact same
- 11:17company doing the [music] job and then
- 11:19evaluating how good a job it's done.
- 11:22It's like marking your own homework.
- 11:24This creates massive incentives for the
- 11:26auditing side of the business to sign
- 11:28off on the books a little too generously
- 11:30in order to make them seem like the
- 11:31consultant's advice is working better
- 11:33than actually is. And at the same time,
- 11:36the people doing the audits get access
- 11:38to a huge amount of confidential
- 11:40information, much of which would be
- 11:42extremely profitable for consultants to
- 11:44quietly use to win new business or
- 11:45advise clients' competitors. Of course,
- 11:48doing so would be totally illegal. And
- 11:50in theories, these companies all have
- 11:52its strict internal Chinese walls to
- 11:55prevent this from happening. But as you
- 11:56might have expected, they aren't
- 11:58particularly effective. In 2013, the
- 12:01Australian Treasury hired a PwC partner
- 12:03named Peter Collins to help advise on
- 12:06new laws designed to stop multinational
- 12:08companies from dodging tax. He signed
- 12:11three separate confidentiality
- 12:12agreements, but he then shared that very
- 12:15same confidential government information
- 12:17with at least 53 PwC partners who used
- 12:20it to help clients, including Google,
- 12:22get ahead of a law PwC itself had helped
- 12:25designed. This kind of thing has been
- 12:26going on for decades across the Western
- 12:28world. And once a firm becomes
- 12:30successful enough to expand into several
- 12:32branches of the same industry, the
- 12:34temptation to use information it
- 12:36shouldn't really have to boost its
- 12:37position in both directions becomes
- 12:39almost impossible [music] to resist. But
- 12:41it does seem like governments might just
- 12:43be starting to notice. Following [music]
- 12:45the Australian PwC scandal, the company
- 12:47was forced to sell off its entire
- 12:49government consulting business for just
- 12:51$1. [music] And in the UK, from 2024,
- 12:54all four firms had to operationally
- 12:55separate [music] their UK audit
- 12:57practices from the rest of the business.
- 12:59Even the US, known for being the poster
- 13:01child of free market capitalism, has had
- 13:03Senate considering a breakup. For these
- 13:06businesses, getting split up this way
- 13:07would be totally detrimental for one key
- 13:09reason. Both sides of the business rely
- 13:12on each other. Consulting is clearly the
- 13:14main profitable arm, and in 2023, the
- 13:17Big Four alone generated $95 billion
- 13:19from advisory compared to $66 billion
- 13:22from audit. But it only exists in its
- 13:24current form because of the credibility
- 13:26and client access that auditing has
- 13:28built up over a century. If you cut
- 13:30those things out from each other,
- 13:31chances are that both sides would end up
- 13:33doing a lot worse. And even if Western
- 13:35governments don't get involved, the
- 13:37quality of consulting services has
- 13:39dropped so much that it might not really
- 13:40matter. [music] Take a look at this
- 13:42slide from 2016. It's a key deliverable
- 13:45which McKinsey would have charged
- 13:46thousands of dollars for. And for the
- 13:48money, they get words like this:
- 13:50"Develop value-creating partnerships.
- 13:52Build a clear mission. Develop
- 13:54strategies to create a
- 13:55sustainable-related opportunities."
- 13:58These words are the output of millions
- 14:00of dollars,
- 14:01>> [music]
- 14:01>> and it's not like they actually mean
- 14:02anything. But with a fancy graph and a
- 14:04complimentary color tone, it seems like
- 14:06the advice must be valuable. Of course,
- 14:08you can only play that game for so long.
- 14:10By 2024, only 13% of businesses felt
- 14:14that consultants were actually doing
- 14:15more good than harm. Slowly but surely,
- 14:18firms and governments alike are
- 14:20beginning to cut contracts with these
- 14:21companies. And once the branch of the
- 14:23business that was propping up the entire
- 14:25operation starts shrinking, that puts
- 14:27the entire operation under massive
- 14:29pressure. Okay, so all of this raises an
- 14:31important question. What actually ends
- 14:33up filling the space they leave behind?
- 14:36The most obvious option is that large
- 14:37companies simply stop outsourcing this
- 14:39work altogether. If the main value the
- 14:41Big Four provided was cheap,
- 14:43high-quality labor to do data extraction
- 14:45and document review, and AI can now do
- 14:47most of that work internally. And then a
- 14:50company doesn't really need to pay
- 14:51millions of dollars to a consultancy
- 14:53just to get an outsider's opinion on
- 14:55something its own staff could generate
- 14:56in an afternoon. At the same time, it's
- 14:59also very possible that we see a wave of
- 15:01smaller boutique firms start to compete
- 15:03seriously for the first time in decades.
- 15:05AI is quickly closing the gap in output
- 15:08quality between a firm with 300,000
- 15:10employees and a firm with 30, meaning
- 15:12that the size of your head count stops
- 15:14being the advantage it used to be. And
- 15:16the third, perhaps most disruptive
- 15:18possibility, is that the work stops
- 15:19requiring a firm at all. Historically,
- 15:22one of the reasons you needed a firm,
- 15:24rather than a single expert, was that
- 15:25any serious piece of consulting [music]
- 15:27or audit work required more labor than
- 15:29one person could physically produce in a
- 15:30reasonable time frame, which is why
- 15:32these companies were built around armies
- 15:34of junior staff supporting [music] a
- 15:35smaller number of partners. If AI can
- 15:37now do the bulk of that supporting work,
- 15:39then a single experienced professional,
- 15:41someone who spent 15 years inside one of
- 15:43these firms and understands exactly what
- 15:45clients are paying for, could possibly
- 15:47deliver the same output on their own
- 15:49without needing hundreds of junior
- 15:51employees behind them. This would create
- 15:53an entirely new category of competitor
- 15:55[music] that doesn't really resemble a
- 15:56firm at all, made up of independent
- 15:58consultants who can undercut the Big
- 16:00Four dramatically on price simply
- 16:02because they don't have the overhead of
- 16:04a firm to support. Of course, none of
- 16:06these outcomes are mutually exclusive,
- 16:07[music]
- 16:08and it's entirely possible that all
- 16:09three end up happening at once, chipping
- 16:11away at the Big Four from different
- 16:12directions simultaneously. What does
- 16:15seem fairly clear, though, is that the
- 16:16model which dominated corporate America
- 16:18for the better part of a century is no
- 16:20longer guaranteed.
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