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  1. 0:00Everying Gen Z and Gen Alpha kid in the
  2. 0:02world in 24 months will see a video and
  3. 0:05have noing clue if it's a person or an
  4. 0:07AI influencer. Almost every person in
  5. 0:08this room has already seen an AI
  6. 0:10influencer that they have no clue as an
  7. 0:12AI influencer. Of course, I know the
  8. 0:13ones that are super obvious and like all
  9. 0:15that you see on Instagram, you have seen
  10. 0:17AI influencers that you do not realize
  11. 0:19are not people. And like that's today's
  12. 0:21tech. In 24 months, it's game over. I
  13. 0:23hope that leads to you doing 5 hours of
  14. 0:25homework. I believe you will see how
  15. 0:27real what I just said is. And now that
  16. 0:29allows you a 24-month window to decide
  17. 0:32what you want to do with that
  18. 0:33information. I believe over the last 70
  19. 0:35years of marketing, working media
  20. 0:37dollars have been used to disguise bad
  21. 0:41creative.
  22. 0:43And I believe that we are now living in
  23. 0:45the era of working media dollars being
  24. 0:47used to amplify good creative. And I do
  25. 0:51not believe our industry is actually
  26. 0:53doing that. And I want to talk about
  27. 0:56that and compel people to understand how
  28. 0:58real this is. Um it sits in a classic
  29. 1:01marketing framework which is a lot of
  30. 1:05people have been in the mindset of paid
  31. 1:06owned earned and I believe we're
  32. 1:09actually living in the owned earned paid
  33. 1:12era. And so what that means if I put
  34. 1:15into English for some of the
  35. 1:16entrepreneurs here or salespeople,
  36. 1:19very simply put,
  37. 1:21very simply put, I believe any Fortune
  38. 1:245000 company that is not remarkably
  39. 1:28overinvesting in organic social media
  40. 1:31creative is making a fundamental
  41. 1:33strategic mistake.
  42. 1:35Because the way we sit today with these
  43. 1:38seven social networks is that when you
  44. 1:40put out creative, they are fully running
  45. 1:43a model that is based on relevance. And
  46. 1:46for the people that love the old school
  47. 1:48marketing books, good news. I agree with
  48. 1:49you. Relevance creates consideration.
  49. 1:52Consideration leads to people buying.
  50. 1:55The fact that we have at scale the
  51. 1:58biggest tech companies in the world,
  52. 2:00Google, Shorts, Meta, Facebook and
  53. 2:02Instagram, Tik Tok, Bite Dance, Tik Tok,
  54. 2:05the biggest marketing companies in the
  55. 2:06world, the biggest tech infrastructures
  56. 2:09in the world have algos when we post on
  57. 2:13social that are desperate for that
  58. 2:17content to reach an audience that's
  59. 2:19actually interested in it so that you
  60. 2:21all stay on the platform so they can
  61. 2:23sell more ads is the greatest
  62. 2:25opportunity for marketers ever.
  63. 2:28Ever.
  64. 2:30For the first time in marketing history,
  65. 2:32the creative creates reach. That's
  66. 2:36insane. And it creates reach based on
  67. 2:39relevance. For 70 years, we have been
  68. 2:42guessing in boardrooms through our egos
  69. 2:46and our politics on what the campaign or
  70. 2:49commercial should be and then spend an
  71. 2:51ungodly amount of money disguising that
  72. 2:54it was probably a piece of [ __ ]
  73. 2:57And now we can post at scale with
  74. 3:01content that is relevant, see that human
  75. 3:04beings, not us in the industry, care
  76. 3:07about it and have the ability to amplify
  77. 3:09it or campaign on top of it. I believe a
  78. 3:12paid owned earned model is broken. In
  79. 3:16fact, every business that I own, the
  80. 3:18ones that are on that screen or anything
  81. 3:20that I'm the chairman of the board of or
  82. 3:22a very disproportionate investor in, has
  83. 3:26in 2025 gone to a model where we do not
  84. 3:29spend one dollar of working media until
  85. 3:33it has been affirmed organically on
  86. 3:35social. There is actually, if I may,
  87. 3:38with all due respect, zero reason to
  88. 3:42spend media dollars amplifying any piece
  89. 3:45of creative that has not been affirmed
  90. 3:47with organic reach in 2025. Yet, 99.9%
  91. 3:53of the brands represented here and
  92. 3:55agencies will do such.
  93. 3:58I don't know what else to say. It's
  94. 4:01black and white. the VC, the ecosystem
  95. 4:05of entrepreneurs in here, the companies
  96. 4:07that are going from zero to $50 million
  97. 4:10a year in revenue are only living in a
  98. 4:14social organic first framework.
  99. 4:17And then there's us.
  100. 4:19I beg our industry, I know the financial
  101. 4:23reasons we're not doing this. I get it.
  102. 4:25I get the agency stuff. I get the brand
  103. 4:27stuff. I get the [ __ ] reports that
  104. 4:30justify all our behavior in this
  105. 4:32industry from the MM and the MMAs and
  106. 4:34everything else. I get it.
  107. 4:36But there is not one [ __ ] person in
  108. 4:38here that has a half a brain that
  109. 4:40doesn't know that I'm 100% right. And it
  110. 4:42is time we act as much because for my
  111. 4:46fellow agency friends, how many people
  112. 4:47here work at an agency? Raise your
  113. 4:49hands. For my fellow friends, I do not
  114. 4:52view us competing. I view us as an
  115. 4:55industry in a crisis where if we do not
  116. 4:58prove value, we will not exist.
  117. 5:02There's a reason shit's going in-house.
  118. 5:04It's cuz we [ __ ] suck.
  119. 5:08Thank you everybody. I'll see you later.
  120. 5:13For the first, by the way, for the first
  121. 5:16time ever, brands agency friends, we can
  122. 5:18measure creative.
  123. 5:20Creative does not get views in social if
  124. 5:22it is not good. I don't care what your
  125. 5:24opinion is or what color of [ __ ]
  126. 5:27fugia you like or what adjective makes
  127. 5:30you get going or what's on brand from
  128. 5:32something written a 100 years ago. If it
  129. 5:35doesn't get views, it is not good.
  130. 5:38Good is defined as views achieved
  131. 5:41organically, nothing else. We are here.
  132. 5:45I'm sorry to tell you I am also mad. I
  133. 5:49also desperately wish that this was the
  134. 5:52Don Draper 1950s. I would drink tons of
  135. 5:55alcohol in Midtown Manhattan. I'm
  136. 5:57charismatic as [ __ ] and I can sell my
  137. 5:59ass off. I would have [ __ ] crushed
  138. 6:01it.
  139. 6:03But we're not here. And the level of
  140. 6:06merit
  141. 6:09in creative that everybody is trying to
  142. 6:11run away from is not going anywhere. So
  143. 6:15either we learn the new craft, which is
  144. 6:18knowing how to make creative that
  145. 6:19actually gets views, not the production
  146. 6:22value of an $800,000 video that nobody's
  147. 6:25going to watch
  148. 6:27or we will die. Both the agencies and
  149. 6:30the brands. And that is where we're at.
  150. 6:33And now I would like to open my Q&A.
  151. 6:36Thank you.
  152. 6:41[Applause]
  153. 6:42you've spoken about most recently, first
  154. 6:45time I heard it was on a LinkedIn live
  155. 6:47interview back in November about the
  156. 6:50paradigm shift of social media is now
  157. 6:55interest media
  158. 6:57where content is not being pushed by
  159. 6:59algorithms to people who are connected
  160. 7:01to you, but it's being pushed to people
  161. 7:03who have that interest that connects
  162. 7:05with that piece of content. The to your
  163. 7:07point Elliot, the entire rant that I
  164. 7:08just went through, there is no doubt in
  165. 7:11my mind that we are no longer in the
  166. 7:13social media era. We are fully in the
  167. 7:15interest media era. We are standing up
  168. 7:17accounts that have no followers and
  169. 7:19getting more views on our content than
  170. 7:21the accounts that have a million
  171. 7:22followers.
  172. 7:24It's over. Go ahead.
  173. 7:26>> I'm so happy that I was able to set that
  174. 7:28up for you.
  175. 7:28>> Thank you, sir.
  176. 7:30>> My question is, what does the industry
  177. 7:33do? What are you doing
  178. 7:36to track it authentically, accurately?
  179. 7:39Vanity metrics, it all can be
  180. 7:41manipulated. Now that we're in going,
  181. 7:43we're in a range of interest media where
  182. 7:46you if someone's interested in it,
  183. 7:49they're shoving the content to them.
  184. 7:52>> There's a Let me jump in since we're
  185. 7:54jamming.
  186. 7:54>> Yeah. Mirax,
  187. 7:58a brand we work on, which normally gets
  188. 8:01300 views on its creative before we
  189. 8:03started working with it, had a video the
  190. 8:05other day that got 36 million views.
  191. 8:08Immediately,
  192. 8:10in the next 72 hours, miraculously,
  193. 8:13stunningly, its Amazon rank went from
  194. 8:17four whatever some absurd number 437,000
  195. 8:20to in the thousands. They sold an
  196. 8:22obnoxious amount of product.
  197. 8:25Elliot, the only thing Vayner Media has
  198. 8:27been measuring for the 15 years we've
  199. 8:28been in this industry is sales.
  200. 8:33>> Now, sales doesn't come immediately
  201. 8:35sometimes, and you got to figure all
  202. 8:37that out. And I'm very empathetic that I
  203. 8:39I will forever die on this hill.
  204. 8:41Measuring brand is like measuring love
  205. 8:43and God. It's not going to be a black
  206. 8:45and white thing. But again, for the
  207. 8:47people in this room that are paying
  208. 8:48attention to the miraculous things that
  209. 8:49have happened to Chili's restaurant or
  210. 8:52Abocrabby and Fitch, there is a 100%
  211. 8:55correlation to organically earned views
  212. 8:59and business results.
  213. 9:01Not posting a piece of crap on social
  214. 9:04media and spending media dollars to
  215. 9:05amplify it to give it a million views.
  216. 9:07No, no, no. Organically earned views
  217. 9:12lead to sales. And Elliot, the reason
  218. 9:13everyone in this room will be on this
  219. 9:16bandwagon is because the data is black
  220. 9:18and white to the sales. And that will be
  221. 9:22too compelling to ignore no matter how
  222. 9:25much some in this room want to hold on
  223. 9:27to yesterday.
  224. 9:29>> Same thing with Ocean Spray. You've
  225. 9:31talked about the mango gummies. Crazy
  226. 9:33moments. There's every day on social, on
  227. 9:36Tik Tok and Instagram, there is a video
  228. 9:38that is going viral that is creating
  229. 9:40more
  230. 9:42more financial impact on brands than
  231. 9:45every TV commercial that that brand has
  232. 9:47run in the last several years. It's just
  233. 9:49real life. Again, we can continue to
  234. 9:53live as if not. We continue to fight for
  235. 9:55things we make more margin on or what
  236. 9:57our company does for a living that does
  237. 9:59not map to this. But it doesn't make it
  238. 10:01any less true.
  239. 10:03And I do believe the walls are closing
  240. 10:05in on us. And that's it.
  241. 10:08>> And then leading into the creator
  242. 10:10economy, and I'll finish with this so I
  243. 10:11can sit down and give other people a
  244. 10:13chance, is super fans, right? Everyone
  245. 10:17wants to know and identify who their
  246. 10:18super fans are.
  247. 10:21How do you see that growing that you can
  248. 10:24be able to identify it, not to
  249. 10:26manipulate it, but to quantify it and to
  250. 10:28be able to do something with it
  251. 10:30authentically?
  252. 10:31>> Yeah. Yeah, I mean I think look people
  253. 10:32will continue to build CRM. There's tons
  254. 10:34of startups. There's, you know, new
  255. 10:36startups like [ __ ] and others that are
  256. 10:38giving you the data instead of it being
  257. 10:40owned by the social networks. The
  258. 10:42blockchain is an incredibly important
  259. 10:44technology that will continue to grow.
  260. 10:46You know that that data I feel more
  261. 10:49comfortable that this room has mapped or
  262. 10:51has optionality. Um the question is how
  263. 10:54many people understand that their heavy
  264. 10:55users or their super fans are actually a
  265. 10:58disproportionate impact on their
  266. 10:59business. that gets a little blurry, but
  267. 11:01the ability to identify and manage and
  268. 11:05engage, those pipes are in place.
  269. 11:07>> Thanks.
  270. 11:08>> Thanks, brother.
  271. 11:12>> Uh, hey, Gary. Thanks so much for the
  272. 11:14time. I really appreciate it. Um, what's
  273. 11:15your name?
  274. 11:15>> My name is Jacob Wallik. I run a a
  275. 11:19social first uh consultancy called
  276. 11:21Social for the Win.
  277. 11:22>> Awesome.
  278. 11:22>> I'm also a creator. Uh, I have about
  279. 11:24500,000 followers on TikTok. I teach
  280. 11:26Microsoft Excel in a fun, sassy way with
  281. 11:28my character Excel Daddy.
  282. 11:30>> No need to call me daddy.
  283. 11:32>> I'm thrilled to call you daddy, Jacob.
  284. 11:34>> Absolutely. I love it. Um, you know, I I
  285. 11:37think what you're saying is incredibly
  286. 11:39on on point. You know, relevancy,
  287. 11:40relatability, organic first obviously
  288. 11:43being such an important thing for a lot
  289. 11:44of brands, but I feel like we look at
  290. 11:46brands like Duolingo as as the, you
  291. 11:48know, the case study to determine what's
  292. 11:50successful in terms of organic. But if
  293. 11:51you look at the spectrum of social, not
  294. 11:53every brand can do outrageous and
  295. 11:55ridiculous content and move at the speed
  296. 11:57of sound like that.
  297. 11:58>> I agree.
  298. 11:58>> How do you see brands building more
  299. 12:00evergreen organic creative strategy with
  300. 12:02more tenpole creative moments that they
  301. 12:04can then optimize on? Because I feel
  302. 12:05like from my side, most brands are
  303. 12:07really not focused on that. They don't
  304. 12:09see the value. I I agree that there is a
  305. 12:10ton of value, but how are you
  306. 12:12positioning it as a way to drive
  307. 12:14relevancy to stay in the game and build
  308. 12:16>> by doing again, you know, it's fun to
  309. 12:18now be so part of this industry because
  310. 12:20I have years now, not just thesis by
  311. 12:23doing what we've always done. We've
  312. 12:24never told a client that virality is the
  313. 12:26punchline. We believe that getting five
  314. 12:28and 10,000 views every day, three, four,
  315. 12:31five times a day on four different
  316. 12:32platforms adds up. And the math supports
  317. 12:34us again because we played outside the
  318. 12:37matrix of reporting and have asked our
  319. 12:39clients to judge us on the health of
  320. 12:41their business at the end of our
  321. 12:42relationship. We've been willing to lose
  322. 12:45and win on business results. Obviously,
  323. 12:48that often times has led us to try to
  324. 12:50get the media and the creative together
  325. 12:52so we could be fully held accountable.
  326. 12:54So, obviously, when we don't have one or
  327. 12:56the other, it's a little bit harder for
  328. 12:57us to fully play on that. But now just
  329. 13:00on organic social creative, we're able
  330. 13:03to prove our merit because of what we're
  331. 13:05talking about here. So honestly, it's
  332. 13:06just about truthtelling.
  333. 13:08>> When we pitch a client, we're not like
  334. 13:10Vayner is going to make you go viral.
  335. 13:12We're like we are going to get more
  336. 13:13views per day across the board. Here's
  337. 13:16the big one for all the business people
  338. 13:17here because we make such a high volume
  339. 13:20of creative as a creative agency. We're
  340. 13:22also a production company. We don't come
  341. 13:24up with an idea and pay someone else to
  342. 13:26make it. So for the same price that
  343. 13:28they're accustomed to paying a creative
  344. 13:29agency, they get creative and production
  345. 13:32output daily. And because we're
  346. 13:34producing so much creative, we're able
  347. 13:36to win on relevance. When I look at the
  348. 13:38crowd here that I can see in the front
  349. 13:40rows, for me to sell Ocean Spray or or a
  350. 13:42Excel course or these sneakers, I need a
  351. 13:45lot of different content to get
  352. 13:47everyone. I got different genders,
  353. 13:49races, interest, income levels. I need
  354. 13:52relevance at scale with as many
  355. 13:54different consumers as possible to
  356. 13:56actually grow my business. I love
  357. 13:58marketing because it's offense for
  358. 14:00business. This is business for me. I'm
  359. 14:03not trying to win some [ __ ] headline
  360. 14:05in a magazine.
  361. 14:06>> Yeah.
  362. 14:06>> And so to me, we just tell them the
  363. 14:08truth. This is what you're currently
  364. 14:10doing. This is how you're wasting your
  365. 14:12money. You're buying you're buying
  366. 14:14potential reach, not actualized reach. I
  367. 14:17believe in reach and frequency, too. But
  368. 14:20you need the reach to be seen. This
  369. 14:22industry is very good at buying fake
  370. 14:24reach.
  371. 14:26>> Oh,
  372. 14:27>> yeah. And and I just said one other
  373. 14:29quick thing. So, you know, if you look
  374. 14:30at companies in the gaming space and in
  375. 14:32the sports space, they have a ton of IP,
  376. 14:33right? Even just like traditional media,
  377. 14:35like look at Family Guy or South, there
  378. 14:37are people who are literally just out
  379. 14:38there clipping content on a continuous
  380. 14:39basis, putting it on social, and it's
  381. 14:41it's basically free views for brands,
  382. 14:43right? Without them having to do
  383. 14:44anything.
  384. 14:44>> Well, that's intellectual property is
  385. 14:46the beast of the game, for sure.
  386. 14:47>> Absolutely. But how do you look at
  387. 14:49brands who don't necessarily have that
  388. 14:50intellectual property like maybe within
  389. 14:52the CPG space or you know within home
  390. 14:54home and personal goods and give just
  391. 14:56general creators the opportunity to put
  392. 14:58out content for them. Like how do you
  393. 15:00position that or how do you tell them
  394. 15:01hey you need to create different types
  395. 15:03of IP to then let your audience kind of
  396. 15:05take control and push it out there for
  397. 15:06you?
  398. 15:06>> Brother, I'm just trying to get them to
  399. 15:07give a [ __ ] about social.
  400. 15:10Like yes, we have those conversations,
  401. 15:13but the reality is is that
  402. 15:15>> for example, if this is day one and if
  403. 15:18this gentleman's the CEO or CMO of
  404. 15:21Reebok, my opening or or Dr. Pepper, my
  405. 15:25opening line is 20% of your entire
  406. 15:27marketing budget of the entire marketing
  407. 15:30budget, not the creative budget. 20% of
  408. 15:32your entire marketing budget needs to be
  409. 15:35allocated for social creative
  410. 15:36production.
  411. 15:37>> Sure.
  412. 15:38>> For a company like a Dr. Pepper that
  413. 15:40spends I'm going to make this up. I have
  414. 15:41no clue. But if they're spending 100
  415. 15:43million, I'm asking for 20 million in
  416. 15:45fee for social production and they're
  417. 15:48spending 500,000 a year. We've got a
  418. 15:52long way to go for this ecosystem to
  419. 15:55understand how much they're getting
  420. 15:57outflanked by much smaller brands. Much
  421. 16:00smaller brands than the Fortune 500
  422. 16:02brands in here are spending 3 to 4x in
  423. 16:06real money on social creative. They
  424. 16:09don't even understand what's happening.
  425. 16:11>> Yeah.
  426. 16:12>> And so before I get them to think about
  427. 16:13IP or resurrecting the jolly green giant
  428. 16:16or doing smart [ __ ] or understanding
  429. 16:18what [ __ ] is or all this stuff, I need
  430. 16:20them to even understand they're not even
  431. 16:22in the game financially. You have
  432. 16:24multi-billion dollar companies getting
  433. 16:26outspent in the most important channel
  434. 16:29in marketing today 5 to1 by a brand that
  435. 16:31didn't exist a year ago because they
  436. 16:33want to spend $900,000 throwing a
  437. 16:36[ __ ] party at possible.
  438. 16:39[Applause]
  439. 16:41Thank you. Go Jets.
  440. 16:43>> Go Jets.
  441. 16:44[Applause]
  442. 16:46>> Hey Gary, my name is Scott. Thanks for
  443. 16:48all the pep talks over the years
  444. 16:50virtually. Uh I'm the president of a
  445. 16:53company called Map Media and we do
  446. 16:55geographically focused influencer
  447. 16:57marketing.
  448. 16:58>> Okay. Like that. in house. We own Iowa
  449. 17:00Chill and the Midwest verse everybody
  450. 17:03social media brands and we focus on
  451. 17:06local creator authenticity
  452. 17:07>> love.
  453. 17:08>> I want to back into the title of your
  454. 17:10talk about you know social e-commerce uh
  455. 17:13virtual influencers and reaching Gen Z.
  456. 17:16Uh Gen Z is notoriously hard to get to
  457. 17:18trust. And I'm curious if you know
  458. 17:21anything about how they will perceive
  459. 17:23virtual influencers.
  460. 17:24>> Well, they won't know the difference.
  461. 17:26>> Won't know the difference. Every [ __ ]
  462. 17:28Gen Z and Gen Alpha kid in the world in
  463. 17:3024 months will see a video and have no
  464. 17:33[ __ ] clue if it's a person or an AI
  465. 17:35influencer.
  466. 17:37>> Thank you.
  467. 17:37>> Thank you.
  468. 17:41>> That's that's and and that based this is
  469. 17:43why I'm glad you asked the question
  470. 17:44because what I get excited about is my
  471. 17:46biggest belief, brother, and you're a
  472. 17:48young entrepreneur is put yourself out
  473. 17:50of business before someone else does it.
  474. 17:52If you do your homework, don't take me
  475. 17:53for an answer, but if you do your own
  476. 17:56homework, it sounds like you have a
  477. 17:57little context on me given the way you
  478. 17:59started this conversation. If I've got
  479. 18:01any credibility with you, I hope that
  480. 18:02leads to you doing 5 hours of homework
  481. 18:05the way I've done 50 hours of homework
  482. 18:06on this subject matter. I believe you
  483. 18:08will see how real what I just said is.
  484. 18:10And now that allows you a 24-month
  485. 18:12window to decide what you want to do
  486. 18:14with that information. Do you want to
  487. 18:16build your own AI infrastructure? Do you
  488. 18:18not? Like, and that's why I want you to
  489. 18:20know it. But I promise you right now,
  490. 18:21almost every person in this room has
  491. 18:23already seen an AI influencer that they
  492. 18:25have no clue as an AI influencer. Of
  493. 18:27course, I know the ones that are super
  494. 18:28obvious and like all that [ __ ] that you
  495. 18:30see on Instagram, you have seen AI
  496. 18:32influencers that you do not realize are
  497. 18:34not people. And like that's today's
  498. 18:36tech. In 24 months, it's game game over.
  499. 18:40[Applause]
  500. 18:43>> Hi, Gary. Um, I'm going to go to the
  501. 18:45opposite side of the demographic. What's
  502. 18:47your name? My name is April and I have a
  503. 18:49startup agency called Openly Gray.
  504. 18:52Amazing.
  505. 18:52>> And so we are working with the brands to
  506. 18:55focus on the gray market 50 plus
  507. 18:58>> love.
  508. 18:58>> And I realize that a lot of brands are
  509. 19:02sleeping on them and
  510. 19:03>> sleeping
  511. 19:04>> and uh you know there's the great wealth
  512. 19:06transfer that's about to happen but
  513. 19:08these people are still alive and
  514. 19:09thriving and they are holding the purse
  515. 19:11strings. So I
  516. 19:11>> they're [ __ ] 50.
  517. 19:13>> Yeah.
  518. 19:16I I always laugh at this like people
  519. 19:18live to 90. You know that, right,
  520. 19:20everybody? Like they're [ __ ] 50,
  521. 19:22>> right? Right.
  522. 19:23>> Have you seen 50 year olds recently?
  523. 19:25They all act like they're 27.
  524. 19:28>> They're 50. They're definitely not gray.
  525. 19:30They're all [ __ ] coloring their hair.
  526. 19:31What are we talking about here?
  527. 19:33>> Keep going.
  528. 19:34>> Yeah. So, I just wanted to know your
  529. 19:35perspective on uh any advice for brands
  530. 19:38that
  531. 19:39>> to stop being idiots. They have the
  532. 19:40money
  533. 19:41>> and we call openly gray.
  534. 19:43>> Yes, I understand. Facebook blue.
  535. 19:46Facebook right this second of the seven
  536. 19:49social networks that I most obsess over
  537. 19:51and their algorithms is
  538. 19:52disproportionately the most interesting
  539. 19:54one to market on.
  540. 19:55>> Yeah, absolutely.
  541. 19:57>> There is an ungodly amount of attention
  542. 20:00at scale on Facebook blue from 45 to 70
  543. 20:04and they buy [ __ ]
  544. 20:07What would I tell brands? Be a [ __ ]
  545. 20:10marketer.
  546. 20:12How would you like I'm aware that we've
  547. 20:13become youth obsessed.
  548. 20:15>> Yes,
  549. 20:15>> I love a good Gen Alpha as much as the
  550. 20:17next one,
  551. 20:19>> but like when you're a big brand for how
  552. 20:21many people here are working for a
  553. 20:23Fortune 500 or are an agency that works
  554. 20:26with Fortune 500? Just raise your hands.
  555. 20:28Just hi if you don't mind. Thank you.
  556. 20:30Like at that scale, we need to sell to
  557. 20:33everyone. Of course, there's going to be
  558. 20:35certain products that don't match. I
  559. 20:36mean, if you're selling to elder, like
  560. 20:38diapers for elderly people, like
  561. 20:4020-year-olds might not necessarily, but
  562. 20:42I just I what I love is that our
  563. 20:46industry lacks a severe level of common
  564. 20:49sense. What would I tell brands? If you
  565. 20:51want somebody to buy your product that's
  566. 20:5350 to 80, market to them with content
  567. 20:56that they would like to see and maybe
  568. 20:59buy your product in places they spend
  569. 21:01their time. Oh, by the way, they [ __ ]
  570. 21:03live on Facebook.
  571. 21:05>> Absolutely. Thank you.
  572. 21:06>> Yeah, thank you.
  573. 21:07>> Thank you.
  574. 21:11>> Hi, I'm Kit Huffman. I'm building an
  575. 21:14agency. We do content communications for
  576. 21:16startup tech.
  577. 21:17>> Amazing. I my question is just I think
  578. 21:21what is so inspiring about your career
  579. 21:24and just the agency that you've built is
  580. 21:26that it it's compet you're you're up
  581. 21:29playing with some of the biggest
  582. 21:30marketing agencies and you are in just
  583. 21:33like you said 15 years competing with
  584. 21:34some of the biggest marketing agencies
  585. 21:38and just me myself as a founder like me
  586. 21:40having so much excitement and also like
  587. 21:43anxiety about like I feel so excited
  588. 21:45about what I am building
  589. 21:47what point or if you could just maybe
  590. 21:49walk us through like what were the
  591. 21:51emotions that you were maybe feeling
  592. 21:53when you were like first starting off or
  593. 21:54what was like maybe there was a turning
  594. 21:56point or a moment that you're like I'm
  595. 21:57not just building another marketing
  596. 21:58agency I'm going to build like one of
  597. 22:00the biggest [ __ ] marketing agencies.
  598. 22:03>> Um thank you and good luck. I would
  599. 22:05here's what I would tell you based on
  600. 22:07what I understand you're asking me. The
  601. 22:10reason the things worked out the way
  602. 22:12they did for us is
  603. 22:15I built an internal culture that was
  604. 22:19focused on one very important nuance
  605. 22:22that this industry has done very poorly,
  606. 22:24which is I as the founder and the owner
  607. 22:28desperately cared more that the people
  608. 22:30in my agency cared about each other than
  609. 22:33the clients.
  610. 22:36Advertising agencies are really bad at
  611. 22:39over bending to keep the business and
  612. 22:44doing [ __ ] they don't believe in. I was
  613. 22:46willing to be patient. I knew that what
  614. 22:49we were focusing on was going to take
  615. 22:51more and more market share and I was
  616. 22:53willing to leave a lot of money on the
  617. 22:55table and a lot of lumps on the table in
  618. 22:57the first 5 to 10 years to get to a
  619. 23:00place where I thought we were stronger
  620. 23:01grounded on continuity. every how many
  621. 23:05people work at agencies? Raise your
  622. 23:07hand. So, this crew knows like the
  623. 23:10average time someone spends at an agency
  624. 23:12is non-existent. We have almost 100
  625. 23:14people that have been at the company for
  626. 23:16over 10 years of a 15 person 15 year
  627. 23:18company. I really thought that if I
  628. 23:20could keep continuity
  629. 23:22with people that we would have speed and
  630. 23:24trust and I just didn't compromise for
  631. 23:28you to build what you want to build it's
  632. 23:30going to be about you not compromising
  633. 23:33to get the money in the short term and I
  634. 23:35think agencies do a poor job with that
  635. 23:38and they become you know they always say
  636. 23:40agencies are always like I don't want to
  637. 23:42be like a vendor I want to be a partner
  638. 23:43to be a partner you have to speak your
  639. 23:45truth and too many agencies bite their
  640. 23:48tongue PS to keep the next check coming,
  641. 23:51which ironically is why they lose the
  642. 23:53client in the end.
  643. 23:54>> Can I ask one follow-up? How did you
  644. 23:56>> and then
  645. 23:57>> how did you find your truth? Especially
  646. 23:59when you were starting.
  647. 24:00>> I'm a practitioner. I'm not like these
  648. 24:02people.
  649. 24:05I what we sell at Vayner Media, I do
  650. 24:09today. I wrote the copy for the social
  651. 24:13media post that you saw if you follow
  652. 24:14me. My truth was very different. I was
  653. 24:18selling something I already did and
  654. 24:20continue to do to this day.
  655. 24:23The skill in getting views in social
  656. 24:26through your thumbnail, the first three
  657. 24:27seconds, the copy and the overall piece
  658. 24:29of creative, whether in picture, written
  659. 24:31or video form is the most complicated
  660. 24:34and most important skill in marketing
  661. 24:36today. I do that every day for not only
  662. 24:39Gary Vee, but for wine text, for V
  663. 24:42friends. I am the practitioner CEO of my
  664. 24:45company. I am not in one meeting in my
  665. 24:48company where I don't know what's going
  666. 24:50on better than everybody else in that
  667. 24:52room. That is unheard of in this
  668. 24:54industry. The CEOs I compete with live
  669. 24:57in France and are bankers.
  670. 25:01>> Thank you.
  671. 25:01>> Thank you.
  672. 25:06>> My question is where does podcasting
  673. 25:09come into play when it comes to both
  674. 25:11agencies advising large brands and large
  675. 25:14brands that are trying to figure it all
  676. 25:15out? Because in our experience over the
  677. 25:17past decade of helping people figure out
  678. 25:20how to get into the world of podcasting
  679. 25:21and where their role is with it, they're
  680. 25:24they're just wildly confused and lost
  681. 25:26and and a majority of them are we don't
  682. 25:28need that. We're not really a media
  683. 25:31company. I know you've been preaching
  684. 25:32the podcast gospel for quite some time
  685. 25:35now.
  686. 25:35>> I have some good news for you. There's a
  687. 25:36tipping point going on. I've spoken to
  688. 25:38more B2B companies in the last six
  689. 25:40months about them finally doing their
  690. 25:42own podcasts as a production day for the
  691. 25:45social creative they need for LinkedIn
  692. 25:48than I have in the last seven years.
  693. 25:49That's where I would focus.
  694. 25:50>> The future's bright.
  695. 25:51>> The future's bright if you're able to
  696. 25:53communicate to everyone in here that the
  697. 25:56podcast is the added value. It's
  698. 25:58actually a production day for creative.
  699. 26:02I would argue that the people in this
  700. 26:03room that are in experiential are in the
  701. 26:05same place. I would argue today that
  702. 26:07every experiential execution in
  703. 26:10marketing is actually a production day
  704. 26:12for social creative and when you mix
  705. 26:14that together it becomes very ROI
  706. 26:16positive. I would position it that way.
  707. 26:19If you tell them we're not doing a
  708. 26:20podcast, we're doing a a couple of
  709. 26:22production days for creative and you
  710. 26:25happen to get the podcast for free, I
  711. 26:27feel like you're going to get a very big
  712. 26:28audience. What does it look like for the
  713. 26:30world of bisdev and sales though for
  714. 26:31opening up doors when I'm trying to get
  715. 26:33a coffee with you that may not be
  716. 26:34available but if I invite you to a
  717. 26:36interview on Zoom
  718. 26:38>> you know how I've said this this has
  719. 26:39been forever when you do when you host
  720. 26:41the party you win when you start a
  721. 26:44podcast and invite your clients that you
  722. 26:46want on it. It always works. You've
  723. 26:49replicated something just now that I've
  724. 26:50been talking about for a decade. It
  725. 26:52works. I've watched it time and time
  726. 26:53again. And for anybody in here, and
  727. 26:55there's a lot of salespeople running
  728. 26:57around Miami right now, for a lot of you
  729. 27:00that will spend the money to come down
  730. 27:02here and shoot your shots and make your
  731. 27:04decks and try to bisdev and sponsor
  732. 27:06stuff and cocktail hours, if that money
  733. 27:08and energy went into a podcast around
  734. 27:10the industry that you're in and you
  735. 27:12invited these CMOs that you're so
  736. 27:14desperate to meet downstairs
  737. 27:17as guests, you would have them captive
  738. 27:19for two hours.
  739. 27:20>> Thanks, brother. Love you, man.
  740. 27:23>> Thank you.
  741. 27:24Hi Gary, great seeing you this year as
  742. 27:27well.
  743. 27:27>> Pleasure.
  744. 27:27>> Uh so I'm Russell Karim. Uh we built a
  745. 27:30company, we built a AI powered company
  746. 27:32to uh streamline the supply chain for
  747. 27:35uniform and promotional product industry
  748. 27:37globally.
  749. 27:37>> For what brother?
  750. 27:38>> For so we built a AI powered uh
  751. 27:40technology to streamline uniform and
  752. 27:44promotional product industry.
  753. 27:45>> Very cool. Okay.
  754. 27:46>> Um so I know you know just listening to
  755. 27:48you all these years you talk about live
  756. 27:51selling. I mean so much about the live
  757. 27:53selling.
  758. 27:54>> What do you think like this geopolitical
  759. 27:56influence on social platforms or even
  760. 27:58the global supply chain? How does that
  761. 28:00impact that future of live e-commerce?
  762. 28:04>> Look politics. I mean I love what I
  763. 28:06don't so I was a terrible student but I
  764. 28:09was really good at history. I you know
  765. 28:12I'm fascinated by people who don't know
  766. 28:15anything about history. I don't know if
  767. 28:17you know this but there's always [ __ ]
  768. 28:18going on between countries.
  769. 28:23Like like we act like this trade war
  770. 28:26between us and China is some like
  771. 28:27unheard of phenomenon. You [ __ ]
  772. 28:30ever hear about the cold war?
  773. 28:33Do you know that your grandparents never
  774. 28:34went to Eastern Europe for 70 years? You
  775. 28:37couldn't go to Poland or the USSR? Like
  776. 28:39this. Like what do I think? I think it's
  777. 28:41[ __ ] life.
  778. 28:45Like I I don't even think about that
  779. 28:46[ __ ] Like if it's more expensive, you
  780. 28:48either pass it on to the customer or you
  781. 28:50take the hit. That's called business.
  782. 28:52During COVID, we pass it on to the
  783. 28:54customer. Right now, the prices with
  784. 28:56inflation are too high. So, everybody
  785. 28:58with supply chain is taking the hit. So,
  786. 28:59they're cutting cost, firing people,
  787. 29:01spending less on marketing. This is
  788. 29:03business 101. Live shopping to me, maybe
  789. 29:07why you're bringing it up is live
  790. 29:08shopping happened in China 10 years ago.
  791. 29:10It is a good dollar industry in China.
  792. 29:13It will be the same in the Western
  793. 29:15world. Tik Tok shop and whatnot and soon
  794. 29:18to follow eBay and Facebook and
  795. 29:21Instagram and everybody else. The
  796. 29:24QVCification of social media is here. It
  797. 29:26is a massive opportunity for the people
  798. 29:28in this room who are like not in love
  799. 29:30what they do for a living. Raise your
  800. 29:32hand if you get your job real quick.
  801. 29:33Just curious.
  802. 29:36Yeah, I know your boss is here. Um
  803. 29:39I was just trying to get you. Um,
  804. 29:42for the half of you that actually hate
  805. 29:44your job, even though none of you raised
  806. 29:45your hand, if you're looking for an
  807. 29:47opportunity that might be interesting to
  808. 29:49you, I could not push you more to do
  809. 29:52some homework on live social shopping.
  810. 29:55There's some really fascinating human
  811. 29:57dynamics in live social shopping. I
  812. 29:59think there's a subculture subconscious,
  813. 30:01excuse me, tipping mechanism. So, people
  814. 30:04spend more because they're actually
  815. 30:05being entertained. So, they end up
  816. 30:07buying stuff almost like a tip. There's
  817. 30:10been I've been really studying it. I've
  818. 30:11been in it now for about a year very
  819. 30:13deeply many many many many hours. I
  820. 30:16believe live social shopping is one of
  821. 30:17the most interesting things. But that is
  822. 30:19a separate completely different thing
  823. 30:21than supply chain like realities. That's
  824. 30:23just that's always going to hap. There's
  825. 30:26always going to be something bro, right?
  826. 30:27Like Japan had a financial crisis in the
  827. 30:3080s and it [ __ ] it up because we were
  828. 30:32all in on Japan. And [ __ ] 2008 crisis
  829. 30:36happened in 1987 in October the stock
  830. 30:38market collapsed and the junk bonds and
  831. 30:40in 197 people are like it's never been
  832. 30:42worse. I'm like [ __ ] in 1979.
  833. 30:44Gas stations had no gas.
  834. 30:48Like I don't understand. Like you let me
  835. 30:50just This is a per I know I'm over time.
  836. 30:51This is a perfect thing to I apologize
  837. 30:53to everybody in line. Feel free to. My
  838. 30:55phone number is right there if you want
  839. 30:56to text me your question. I'm flying to
  840. 30:58Toronto tonight. I'm happy to [ __ ]
  841. 31:00answer it. I'm just going to leave you
  842. 31:01with this.
  843. 31:03We have it so good that we think it's
  844. 31:06bad.
  845. 31:10We complain about dumb [ __ ]
  846. 31:13Everyone's like, "It's never been worse.
  847. 31:16The black plague was worse.
  848. 31:22That Holocaust thing was no [ __ ]
  849. 31:24joke.
  850. 31:26Like World War II was messy.
  851. 31:29We are just so fortunate that we're
  852. 31:32around to complaining about dumb [ __ ]
  853. 31:35People talk about like, "I don't make 10
  854. 31:37million a year. I'm broke." We've lost
  855. 31:39our [ __ ] way, friends.
  856. 31:41In marketing for damn sure, but even in
  857. 31:44life. So, I think we need to be more
  858. 31:46grateful, more grounded, less
  859. 31:48materialistic, more humble. The fact
  860. 31:51that you're [ __ ] breathing is a win.
  861. 31:53We need to calm the [ __ ] down. We got to
  862. 31:55stop using Thank you.
  863. 31:59[Applause]
  864. 32:01We need to desperately,
  865. 32:04desperately stop weaponizing words.
  866. 32:07You're not anxious, you're
  867. 32:08inconvenienced.
  868. 32:12Like we have really [ __ ] our [ __ ] up.
  869. 32:15We've created new words. I have imposter
  870. 32:17syndrome. You're insecure.
  871. 32:21We didn't need another word.
  872. 32:23So, let's just be grateful and let's
  873. 32:25bring common sense and gratitude back.
  874. 32:27It'll be good for your life and it will
  875. 32:30make all of you much better marketers
  876. 32:32cuz our industry is full of [ __ ]
  877. 32:38You do not need to make TV commercials
  878. 32:41that cost millions of dollars and then
  879. 32:42spend millions of dollars to amplify it.
  880. 32:45The world has moved on. I'm sorry.
  881. 32:48We bought buying the lowest cost
  882. 32:50programmatic CPMs. I don't know if you
  883. 32:53heard this. You get what you're paying
  884. 32:55for. You get excited about $3 CPMs. It's
  885. 32:58on [ __ ] mommy.org
  886. 33:01below the fold banner ad on the right.
  887. 33:03It's [ __ ] garbage.
  888. 33:07And don't get me started with principal
  889. 33:08buying and all the other [ __ ] we make up
  890. 33:10to [ __ ] make margin that's good for
  891. 33:12the agency and not for the brands. We
  892. 33:14need a [ __ ] wakeup call as humans and
  893. 33:16definitely as a advertising industry.
  894. 33:19Otherwise, it's going to be much worse
  895. 33:21than you think. So, I ask all of you to
  896. 33:24have the courage to start telling the
  897. 33:26truth and start getting educated on
  898. 33:28what's really going out out there
  899. 33:30because that will be good for everyone
  900. 33:31and I thank you for your time and I wish
  901. 33:33you the best possible ever. Thank you.
  902. 33:35Thank you.
  903. 33:38[Music]

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