The Only Time In History When Megalodons Were Prey — Transcript
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- 0:00The megalodon was indisputably the top
- 0:03apex predator of its time. This isn't
- 0:05debated by science, history, or anyone
- 0:09with a brain. But being an apex predator
- 0:12just means you have no natural
- 0:14predators. It doesn't necessarily mean
- 0:16you have zero predators. And it
- 0:18definitely doesn't mean you can't be
- 0:20hurt. Being top of the food chain means
- 0:22that nothing above you eats you. But
- 0:24what about the things beside you? See,
- 0:27the prehistoric era, the megalodon lived
- 0:30in what was called the mosense. And
- 0:32during this time period, there were
- 0:33exactly two apex predators at the top of
- 0:36the food chain. One, a giant shark, and
- 0:39the other one, a giant whale. This was
- 0:43the Livotan, a whale that looks pretty
- 0:45similar to sperm whales, but was
- 0:47effectively what you'd get if you put
- 0:49one on steroids. Their teeth were double
- 0:52the size, and they had a whole another
- 0:54row, too. And unlike sperm whales, they
- 0:57were macro predators. Which means
- 0:59instead of going after big squids or
- 1:01being like other whales that only eat
- 1:03plankton, lioton would hunt other
- 1:06whales. Oddly enough, liotons were
- 1:08actually shorter than sperm whales and
- 1:10yet if they were still around today,
- 1:12would absolutely destroy any sperm whale
- 1:15in an even match. But how did they get
- 1:17so strong? Why were they single-handedly
- 1:20the only other animal megalodon wouldn't
- 1:22approach? And what made them go extinct?
- 1:27To find out, we have to go back 12
- 1:29million years ago to the most violent
- 1:32ocean in Earth's history. The full name
- 1:34Livoton Melvilley was named after Herman
- 1:37Melbilly, the guy who wrote Moby Dick.
- 1:39Livoton stems from the same word that
- 1:41means Leviathon. And it's not a
- 1:43coincidence they sound kind of similar.
- 1:46Scientists actually tried naming it
- 1:48Leviathan Melville originally, but they
- 1:50gave the name Leviathan to a
- 1:51mammoth-like animal already, so they got
- 1:54stuck with the knockoff name. But if
- 1:56sperm whales were bigger, why were
- 1:58scientists trying to give them such a
- 2:00god-like name in the first place? See,
- 2:02modern sperm whales can reach up to 60
- 2:05or even 70 ft long, whereas the lioton
- 2:08is estimated to be around 45 to 57 ft.
- 2:11So on paper, the modern version is
- 2:14technically the giant one, but length
- 2:17isn't everything. If you saw a sperm
- 2:19whale in a lioton side to side, you
- 2:21wouldn't be looking at the tail. You'd
- 2:23just be looking at the mouth. The sperm
- 2:25whale is long, sure, but it has a narrow
- 2:28underslung jaw with tiny teeth that are
- 2:30basically useless for combat. The
- 2:32lioton, on the other hand, sacrificed
- 2:34the extra length for sheer bulk and
- 2:37power. It had a shorter, thicker skull
- 2:39that was reinforced to withstand the
- 2:41shock of ramming into other whales at
- 2:43full speed. And this build is basically
- 2:45what made the lioton completely
- 2:47overpowered. They had the largest
- 2:49functional teeth of any animal to ever
- 2:52exist. Which doesn't mean tusks like
- 2:54elephants or walruses have. These are
- 2:56teeth designed for actual violence. Each
- 2:59one was over a foot long, around 36 cm,
- 3:02and nearly 5 in thick. This is how one
- 3:05would look compared to a T-Rex tooth.
- 3:08That's over double the size. And unlike
- 3:10modern sperm whales, which only have
- 3:12teeth on their bottom jaw, lioton had
- 3:15massive teeth on the top and the bottom.
- 3:18This is the biggest thing that points us
- 3:20towards believing that liotons were
- 3:22competing with megalodons. See, modern
- 3:24sperm whales are suction feeders because
- 3:26their job is to dive deep into the void,
- 3:29find a gigantic squid, and basically
- 3:31slurp it up like a slippery noodle. They
- 3:33don't really need to chew, so they lost
- 3:35their top teeth entirely. This is one of
- 3:38the unique things you can see in nature.
- 3:40You can predict an animal's diet without
- 3:42ever seeing it eat solely based off its
- 3:44mouth. Having teeth on both jaws allowed
- 3:47liv to bite down on large prey and tear
- 3:49massive chunks of flesh by thrashing its
- 3:52head, which is pretty similar to the
- 3:54death roll of a crocodile. So, they're
- 3:56insanely overpowered and could actually
- 3:58hunt other tanky animals. But the
- 4:01obvious question now is who would win in
- 4:03a fight between a megalodon and
- 4:05Oliviaon? Well, as much as I'd like to
- 4:07make up a sick story about these giants
- 4:09absolutely mauling each other, I won't
- 4:12just spout up a fake scenario based off
- 4:14whatever vibes I feel. In reality, we
- 4:17don't actually know who would win, and
- 4:19we don't have any direct proof that they
- 4:21fought. We still haven't found any
- 4:23megalodon teeth in any of the Livoton
- 4:26bones. But what we do know though is
- 4:28that a battle would definitely not be
- 4:30completely one-sided. Both of these
- 4:32creatures were the biological limits of
- 4:34ocean predators. They were
- 4:36single-handedly the two most dangerous
- 4:38predators to ever exist. And because of
- 4:40that, realistically, a fight might just
- 4:43kill them both. What likely happened is
- 4:45this created some sort of prehistoric
- 4:48cold war in the ocean. These animals
- 4:50weren't smart like humans, but they
- 4:52weren't dumb. attacking each other would
- 4:54be for a reason, and that reason would
- 4:56either be food itself or reducing
- 4:59competition. If they did clash, it would
- 5:02be the Cold War equivalent of a mutually
- 5:04assured destruction. A megalodon bite
- 5:06could crush the whale's ribs. But one
- 5:09good chomp from a liveon could sever the
- 5:11shark's pectoral fins or crush its
- 5:13spine, leaving the shark immobile and
- 5:16sinking. And in the ocean, if you can't
- 5:18swim, you're dead. In reality, most
- 5:21adults likely avoided each other at all
- 5:24times because they both know that even
- 5:26if one of them won the fight, there
- 5:28would be no real winner. But animals
- 5:30aren't always logical. At some point,
- 5:32they must have fought, right? So, what
- 5:34would happen if they did? Well, whales
- 5:37are mammals, which means they are
- 5:38warm-blooded. While the megalodon was
- 5:40much more efficient than your average
- 5:42goldfish, it still couldn't match the
- 5:44sustained energy levels of a mammal.
- 5:46Oliviaon could stay active, aggressive,
- 5:49and fast for a much longer period of
- 5:51time.
- 5:51>> One hour later.
- 5:53>> In a fight of endurance, the whale would
- 5:55win. But endurance doesn't always matter
- 5:58if the fight ends in one hit. Estimates
- 6:00for the megalodon put it somewhere
- 6:01between 50 to 60 ft long. Estimates for
- 6:04the livon were 45 to 57 ft. So, in terms
- 6:08of length, it's basically a draw. If you
- 6:11saw them both while swimming, you
- 6:13probably wouldn't be able to tell who's
- 6:15longer without a measuring tape. And
- 6:17even so, they'd probably eat you before
- 6:19that point anyway. But wait is where
- 6:21things get interesting. See, the
- 6:23megalodon was built like a great white,
- 6:25but thicker. It was stocky, robust, and
- 6:29essentially a swimming wall of muscle.
- 6:31Conservative estimates put the megalodon
- 6:33anywhere from 50 to 70 tons, with some
- 6:36scientists thinking the absolute largest
- 6:38females could have reached over 100
- 6:40tons. The Leviathon was only around 40
- 6:44to 50 tons. This is interesting because
- 6:46in modern day almost all whales are way
- 6:49heavier than sharks. They're full of
- 6:51blubber and other thick and dense ways
- 6:53to keep their body intentionally
- 6:55massive. Sharks benefit from being more
- 6:58light and agile. It's strange because
- 7:00the roles of these animals are almost
- 7:02completely reversed. Livoton is much
- 7:05sleeker and agile than the Meg, and the
- 7:07Meg is heavier than the whale. Livoton
- 7:09was also likely much smarter than the
- 7:11Meg. But obviously, if you put a human
- 7:13and a lion in a cage, intelligence
- 7:15doesn't guarantee a win. In most cases,
- 7:18most people suspect that a megalodon
- 7:20would win about 55% of the time, but the
- 7:22fight is extremely close. Unless we find
- 7:25more evidence, we really just don't
- 7:27know. The sizes of these animals are too
- 7:30ambiguous, and the amount of force they
- 7:32could deliver is just not exactly known
- 7:34either. What we do know is they're both
- 7:36big and deadly. They competed over early
- 7:39baine whales, but it was usually easier
- 7:41to just go after those instead of trying
- 7:43to take another apex predator down. So,
- 7:46when and why did these creatures
- 7:48actually fight in a realistic case? Or
- 7:51did they just side eyee each other the
- 7:53entire time? The real violence happened
- 7:56in the nursery. Basically, they were
- 7:58spawn camping. See, megalodons didn't
- 8:01just give birth anywhere. They had
- 8:03specific nurseries, which were shallow,
- 8:06warm coastal waters where the pups could
- 8:07grow up safely away from the deep ocean
- 8:10where the adults lived. And when I say
- 8:12pups, I mean a baby that is already 6 ft
- 8:15long and ready to kill. But to a full
- 8:17grown leviaon, a 6 ft shark isn't a
- 8:20threat. It's an easy meal. The whale
- 8:22could use its size and sonar to pick off
- 8:24the future apex predators before they
- 8:26even hit their teenage years. It's the
- 8:28ultimate strategy. Eliminate the
- 8:30competition before they get big enough
- 8:32to bite you back. And you also get a
- 8:34free snack. But it went both ways.
- 8:36Livoton was a whale, which means it was
- 8:39a mammal, and mammals have to nurse
- 8:41their young. Sperm whales are known for
- 8:43having extremely strong family bonds,
- 8:45traveling in pods to protect the calves.
- 8:48If a calf strayed a little too far from
- 8:49mum or if the pod got separated in a
- 8:52storm, that calf is done. And this is
- 8:55likely where the megalodon had the
- 8:56advantage. While libons probably had to
- 8:59rely on brute force and gang violence to
- 9:01stay safe, the megalodon was a solitary
- 9:04ambush predator. It could wait in the
- 9:06murky depths, completely invisible until
- 9:08the calf was vulnerable. While we'd like
- 9:11to imagine these guys clashing in the
- 9:13ocean like Godzilla versus Kong, the
- 9:15reality is probably a lot darker. The
- 9:18war between the Megalodon and the
- 9:19Livoton was likely a war of attrition,
- 9:22killing each other's children to ensure
- 9:24their own species stayed on top. But
- 9:26eventually, the war ended. And guess who
- 9:28won. Surprisingly, neither of them?
- 9:31Everyone else did. Around 3 million
- 9:33years ago, the Earth started to change.
- 9:36The planet cooled down. The early baine
- 9:38whales they both ate couldn't handle the
- 9:40cold. So they started dying out or
- 9:42evolving into massive open ocean whales
- 9:45we see today. Like blue whales which
- 9:47migrated to the freezing poles to feed.
- 9:50The levoton and the megalodon were
- 9:52stuck. They were metabolic furnaces that
- 9:54needed warm water to survive. They
- 9:56couldn't follow the food into the cold.
- 9:58So the megalodon starved to death
- 10:00because it was too big to chase the fast
- 10:02new whales. The levoton starved to death
- 10:05because its food source literally
- 10:06vanished. And who survived? Well, for
- 10:09one, the sperm whale. And all the other
- 10:11ones who weren't trying to be the king.
- 10:14They just dove deep, ate squid, and
- 10:16minded their own business. It's the
- 10:18ultimate evolutionary irony. The
- 10:21biggest, strongest, and deadliest
- 10:23animals are actually the most fragile.
- 10:25You become so specialized at killing one
- 10:27specific thing that when the world
- 10:29changes even a little bit, you're the
- 10:31first one to go extinct. Your entire
- 10:34existence as an apex predator is reliant
- 10:36on your non-apex prey. But this rivalry
- 10:39actually teaches us something incredibly
- 10:41important about how nature works. The
- 10:43ecological ceiling. See, there is a
- 10:46reason we don't have 100 ft sharks or
- 10:49200 ft killer whales today. It's not
- 10:51because they couldn't evolve. It's
- 10:53because the math doesn't check out. The
- 10:55livon and megalodon represent the
- 10:58absolute upper limit of how big a
- 11:00predator can get before the laws of
- 11:01thermodynamics destroys your existence.
- 11:04To be a fast, active hunter at that size
- 11:07requires a caloric intake that is
- 11:09frankly stupid. You need an ocean that
- 11:12is essentially an all you can eat buffet
- 11:14that never closes. And the second that
- 11:16buffet runs out, you crash hard. It's
- 11:19actually incredibly rare for an
- 11:21ecosystem to support two super predators
- 11:24of this size at the exact same time.
- 11:26Usually, nature follows the rules. There
- 11:28can only be one. The fact the megalodon
- 11:30and the lioton coexisted for millions of
- 11:32years is a testament to just how
- 11:34insanely rich and dangerous the minene
- 11:37ocean really was. It was a biological
- 11:39anomaly. But even though the monsters
- 11:41are gone, the game is still being
- 11:44played. If you look at the ocean today,
- 11:46we see a spooky echo of this ancient
- 11:48rivalry. We have the great white shark,
- 11:50a solitary, cold-blooded ambush
- 11:53predator. And we have the orca, a
- 11:55warm-blooded, highly intelligent
- 11:57pod-based mammal. Today, the fight is a
- 12:00bit more one-sided and the mammal wins.
- 12:02When orcas show up, great whites flee.
- 12:05It's basically a low-budget reenactment
- 12:07of the Leviton versus Megalodon War,
- 12:10just scaled down for modern audiences.
- 12:12So, what else survived? Well, as I
- 12:15mentioned, sperm whales still stayed
- 12:17alive, but they fill a completely
- 12:19different niche than leviton. Both the
- 12:21levoton and the modern sperm whale have
- 12:23this massive tank of waxy oil in their
- 12:25foreheads. It's what gives them that
- 12:27weird boxy head shape, but they use it
- 12:30for two very different game modes. For
- 12:32the modern sperm whale, this organ is a
- 12:34flashlight. They hunt in the midnight
- 12:36zone where sunlight doesn't exist. Giant
- 12:39squids are fast, slippery, and
- 12:41invisible. So, they use spermacity organ
- 12:43to focus sound waves into a narrow beam,
- 12:46like a biological sniper scope to see
- 12:48the squid in the dark. It's purely for
- 12:51navigation and detection. But the livon
- 12:53lived near the surface. The water was
- 12:56bright. It didn't need a flashlight to
- 12:58see a 30-foot whale. So, why keep the
- 13:01massive organ? Well, this is
- 13:02speculative, but it's possible for the
- 13:04levoton, it wasn't a flashlight, but
- 13:07actually a flashbang. By blasting a
- 13:09concentrated burst of sound at an enemy,
- 13:11like a megalodon or a fleing whale, it
- 13:13could be loud enough to physically stun
- 13:15them or cause some sort of sensory
- 13:17overload. This wouldn't just be hearing
- 13:20a loud noise. This would be a sound wave
- 13:22so intense it vibrates your water- fil
- 13:25tissues, causing disorientation, nausea,
- 13:28or even temporary paralysis. This is not
- 13:31proven though. But if there was an
- 13:33animal that were to use a biological
- 13:35sonic weapon like this, Levitan would be
- 13:37the number one candidate. It might have
- 13:39only been against smaller animals,
- 13:40though, and not in their fantasy battle
- 13:42against megalodons. Still, the modern
- 13:45sperm whale is not a complete downgraded
- 13:47version of the levotan. They're
- 13:49definitely not completely peaceful, and
- 13:51it is currently still the largest tooth
- 13:53predator on the entire planet. Yes, blue
- 13:56whales are bigger, but they eat
- 13:58microscopic krill. You aren't exactly
- 14:00intimidated by a guy eating soup. They
- 14:02resemble what levitons have to be today
- 14:05to survive, which means dropping their
- 14:07hyperaggression, but not all of it. For
- 14:10the other animals that survived though,
- 14:12oddly enough, it was most of the prey.
- 14:14Blue whales, which are baen whales,
- 14:16became even bigger than megalodons or
- 14:18liotans did. Now they're basically
- 14:21untouchable when fully grown to any
- 14:23shark or predatory whale. The only
- 14:25reason blue whales were even allowed to
- 14:27get this big was because of the
- 14:29extinction of the megalodon and lioton.
- 14:31With the two bullies of the ocean gone,
- 14:33the baine whales suddenly had access to
- 14:36an unlimited food supply with zero
- 14:38threats. Their limiter was broken. For
- 14:40millions of years, there was a
- 14:42biological size cap. If a whale tried to
- 14:45grow massive and slow during the
- 14:46meioene, it wasn't beneficial. It just
- 14:49made you a more attractive dinner. Being
- 14:51a 100 ft long slowmoving meat tube just
- 14:54made you an easier target for the
- 14:56megalodon. The predators were literally
- 14:58eating the competition down to size.
- 15:01Interestingly, if megalodons or liotan
- 15:03were to encounter a blue whale today,
- 15:05it's not super likely they would still
- 15:07attack them. They're simply too big. The
- 15:10baine whales got a few million years to
- 15:12evolve without being held back. And now,
- 15:15even if somehow megalodons were able to
- 15:17come back, they might not be able to
- 15:19take them down anymore. One strike from
- 15:21a blue whale could render the megalodon
- 15:23crippled for life. And even though
- 15:25megalodons aren't super smart, they'd be
- 15:27smart enough to realize they shouldn't
- 15:29be going after prey that big. Of course,
- 15:32this doesn't mean that blue whales would
- 15:34hunt megalodons either. It would just be
- 15:36the same battle of I'm ignoring you. But
- 15:39as fun as it is to play fantasy
- 15:40matchmakers with extinct monsters and
- 15:42modern giants, there is a massive
- 15:44problem with trying to figure out
- 15:46exactly what happened back then. See,
- 15:48the ocean is really, really good at
- 15:51hiding the bodies. We still barely know
- 15:53anything. We have never found a full
- 15:55megalodon skeleton. We only have one
- 15:57really good skull of Olivia. The
- 15:59megalodon ruled the ocean for 20 million
- 16:02years. Yet, because its skeleton was
- 16:04made of cartilage, the same squishy
- 16:06stuff in our ears, the ocean has removed
- 16:08so much of the evidence of it ever being
- 16:10around. We have the teeth, so we know it
- 16:13could bite, but we have no idea how it
- 16:15moved. Did it have massive petrol fins
- 16:17to make tight turns like a fighter jet,
- 16:19or was it built for straight line speed?
- 16:21Without the cartilage, we're just
- 16:23guessing the shape of the engine. And
- 16:25for the lioton, the evidence we wish we
- 16:27had is a soft tissue. See, we have the
- 16:30skull with the massive basin on top. So,
- 16:32we know it had a spermacity organ. We
- 16:34know it had sonar. But because that
- 16:36organ is made of wax and oil, it rots
- 16:39away instantly. We don't actually know
- 16:41how powerful that weapon was. Was it
- 16:44just a flashlight to find prey in the
- 16:46dark? Or do they use it like sperm
- 16:48whales, but on an even more dangerous
- 16:50scale, like a sonic cannon capable of
- 16:52stunning a 50tonon shark? The difference
- 16:54between a flashlight and a stun gun is
- 16:56huge. And the answer dissolved millions
- 16:58of years ago. The ocean is fantastic at
- 17:01deleting evidence or just burying it
- 17:03completely. There could be fossils
- 17:05sitting at the bottom of the trench
- 17:07right now that would prove these guys
- 17:08got even bigger or that there was a
- 17:10third player in the game that we don't
- 17:12even know about yet. But if there's one
- 17:14thing to take away from all this, it's
- 17:15that the ancient ocean wasn't just some
- 17:18peaceful, majestic circle of life Disney
- 17:20movie. It was a war zone. A war that
- 17:23even the top superpowers in it were too
- 17:25scared to fight because of mutually
- 17:27assured destruction. and then they got
- 17:29mutually destructed. Anyways, at least
- 17:32we can be thankful that we're not
- 17:33getting spawn camped by giant sharks and
- 17:35whales. Thank you for watching and if
- 17:38you guys want to see something even
- 17:39deadlier than both these animals, check
- 17:41out our videos on brine pools here.
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