The Murdaugh Family Murders: Impact of Influence - 95: Week One Of Alex's Trial Wraps — Transcript

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1. 0:00impact of influence the murloc family
2. 0:03murders this is the unfolding story of a
3. 0:05powerful South Carolina family the
4. 0:07mysterious deaths they are linked to and
5. 0:10our quest to bring you the truth
6. 0:15hello friend
7. 0:17so grateful that you've decided to spend
8. 0:19time with us we know there's a lot of
9. 0:21people talking about the Alec Murdoch
10. 0:24trial and we have been talking about it
11. 0:27for well over a year now and it's been
12. 0:31great that a lot of you have hung with
13. 0:33us some of you
14. 0:34are new and we love it that you're
15. 0:37taking time to spend with us
16. 0:39those who don't know I am Matt Harris
17. 0:41Seton Tucker or the other host and
18. 0:45you can reach out to us on Murdoch
19. 0:48podcast Facebook
20. 0:49murlocpodcast.com Matt Harris podcast
21. 0:54gmail.com and we're cranking out the
22. 0:57podcast
23. 0:58a little quicker than we normally do a
24. 1:00lot quicker usually it's about once a
25. 1:03week over the last year and months uh
26. 1:07Seton has been in
27. 1:09the thicker things in Walterboro for the
28. 1:13trial uh Seton good morning good day
29. 1:17good afternoon whatever we're in I don't
30. 1:20know what time is it's been a really
31. 1:21crazy busy week I know it right I know
32. 1:24it and I've been trying to be on court
33. 1:26TV and Technical problems both times and
34. 1:28I've
35. 1:29punched myself in the face like eight
36. 1:31times but
37. 1:33it's good it's good and we're gonna I'm
38. 1:34gonna be down uh in Walterboro next week
39. 1:37along with you for some of the days so
40. 1:40let's begin kind of where we left off in
41. 1:44the podcast that we did I believe on
42. 1:46Wednesday and we're recording this on
43. 1:48Friday so we would start with
44. 1:51day four
45. 1:52is when uh the the Witnesses are
46. 1:56starting to be called and
47. 1:59is it let's start with the the the the
48. 2:01scene is it starting to get a little
49. 2:03more crowded now are there a lot more
50. 2:05people showing up that are members of
51. 2:07the community are there more reporters
52. 2:09showing up what's the deal
53. 2:11well I would say
54. 2:12day four Thursday was actually not that
55. 2:16much different from other days there
56. 2:17were a few members of the public but
57. 2:19today is Friday and
58. 2:21day five we have actually there were
59. 2:24more people and I talked to the court
60. 2:26staff and they said that they are
61. 2:28allowing 60 members of the general
62. 2:29public to come in and it's basically
63. 2:32first come first served and I asked them
64. 2:35if they were full today and they said
65. 2:37they were close to being full so but
66. 2:38this was the first day that I actually
67. 2:40saw more of a crowd okay we're going to
68. 2:45break this down what would be day four
69. 2:48and day five parts of those and we
70. 2:50combine the two
71. 2:52so if you've not been following along we
72. 2:55just it's easier because some things on
73. 2:57one day relate to another day so this is
74. 2:59kind of a wrap of the two days into one
75. 3:01just to let everyone know how this is
76. 3:03how we're going to talk about this and I
77. 3:05would think it's similar to how if a
78. 3:07jury broke right now how they would all
79. 3:09talk about it kind of thing and we're
80. 3:11also I want to point out
81. 3:13that we're both kind of looking at as
82. 3:15what would we think if we were on the
83. 3:18jury right see like we're not experts in
84. 3:21a lot of this stuff
85. 3:22no absolutely as I am listening I am
86. 3:25trying to listen as if I was a juror
87. 3:28like I am keeping an open mind I'm
88. 3:30listening to both sides I'm no expert in
89. 3:33anything I am just a regular person
90. 3:35living in South Carolina so that's how I
91. 3:37am approaching this and
92. 3:40we are
93. 3:41going to Banter back and forth we don't
94. 3:45we don't script this out
95. 3:47like we think that a lot of people would
96. 3:49be sitting at home except we the one
97. 3:51difference is we've been on this story
98. 3:53for
99. 3:54whatever it is you since uh June of 2021
100. 3:57okay so combining the last few days
101. 4:00we the the body cam footage was shown
102. 4:03which was interesting because you see
103. 4:04Alec and his reaction also they played
104. 4:07the 9-1-1 call
105. 4:10unredacted
106. 4:12so the things that were redacted
107. 4:14what popped out to you uh Seton
108. 4:19the first thing that popped out to me
109. 4:21was the fact that he is immediately
110. 4:26bringing up this
111. 4:27threats that Paul has been receiving in
112. 4:30relation to the boating accident and
113. 4:31again it's the first time anybody's
114. 4:33heard this well the public has heard
115. 4:34this entire call uh when the 911
116. 4:37dispatcher asked Murdoch if Maggie and
117. 4:40Paul shot themselves he replied oh no
118. 4:42hell no and he went on to say that both
119. 4:47victims were shot in the head
120. 4:49there's blood everywhere
121. 4:50it says I can see his brains which is
122. 4:53horrible and it mentions a hole in
123. 4:55Maggie's head which is horrifying I
124. 4:58understand now why that was
125. 5:00redacted because that is potentially uh
126. 5:04evidence
127. 5:05that a killer if there's another it is
128. 5:08not him uh wouldn't not know
129. 5:13but my question is some of the
130. 5:15information that was redacted I'm
131. 5:17questioning why it was redacted I don't
132. 5:19know why the fact that he was
133. 5:22questioning this boating accident why
134. 5:25would they possibly redact that that
135. 5:27seems odd to me the only thing I can
136. 5:29think of
137. 5:31is you don't want to make the anybody
138. 5:35involved in the voting look like a
139. 5:37suspect unnecessarily
140. 5:40well that's true that's what I that's my
141. 5:42theory uh you know that that's that's
142. 5:44what I'm going with
143. 5:46there is also a timeline issue
144. 5:50in this 9-1-1 call
145. 5:52Murdoch told the dispatcher last time he
146. 5:54had talked his wife was roughly two
147. 5:55hours before and that he wasn't at the
148. 5:58crime scene at the time of the killings
149. 6:00prosecutors said at the beginning of the
150. 6:01trial they had cell phone evidence they
151. 6:03put Murdoch at the scene
152. 6:06with victims and that's much closer
153. 6:09than a two hours because this calls at
154. 6:12100 five or six
155. 6:14and eight forty four is the video so
156. 6:18that's an hour
157. 6:20and and 20 minutes or something
158. 6:22I mean timeline is going to be huge with
159. 6:25this because
160. 6:27that was also seemed to be the biggest
161. 6:30thing that stuck out with me with the
162. 6:32sled interview was
163. 6:34when he was questioned about the last
164. 6:36time he saw Maggie and Paul he mentions
165. 6:39about riding around with Paul
166. 6:42on around the property they there's
167. 6:45allegedly a video well we should
168. 6:48hopefully see this
169. 6:50but he doesn't mention being at the
170. 6:52kennels with Maggie and Paul
171. 6:55and yet we know he was at 844 because
172. 6:57the video that's coming out
173. 6:59uh Lisa at least that's what I assume is
174. 7:01in the video we haven't seen it yet I
175. 7:03think inconsistency with timelines and
176. 7:06what he said that's that's going to be a
177. 7:09theme yes it is however let's let's just
178. 7:12Yap about that timeline for a second
179. 7:14Maggie's cell phone was dead at 8 54.
180. 7:17and Paul's phone was 849 with 849. so
181. 7:21you have to assume she's killed before
182. 7:23854 and the video the the video is 8 44
183. 7:27to 8 45 so let's say 8 45 but he's not
184. 7:31leaving the bodies or or the phone
185. 7:33unless he takes Maggie's phone with him
186. 7:34but 849 Paul's phone turns off 9060
187. 7:38starts his truck so no matter how you
188. 7:40look at it even if he kills them both at
189. 7:418 49
190. 7:43it's 17 minutes until he gets in the
191. 7:44truck and leaves no matter what he said
192. 7:46about where he was and where he wasn't
193. 7:48that's that's the timeline but why would
194. 7:51he not be because we learned later when
195. 7:54we listened to the sled interview which
196. 7:56came up on day five
197. 7:58he doesn't tell the officer about being
198. 8:01at the kennels he says he takes a snap
199. 8:04which is what was originally reported he
200. 8:07tooks the snap and then he went to go
201. 8:08check on his mother who suffers from
202. 8:11dementia but why wouldn't he tell people
203. 8:13why wasn't hatred cool about us he says
204. 8:16he gets up from the nap and doesn't see
205. 8:18any of them from the nap until the time
206. 8:21he gets in the car yes possibly he was
207. 8:23in shock I don't know but that issue I
208. 8:27think as as a mind of a juror I'd be
209. 8:29like wait a second why wouldn't you say
210. 8:31that you were at the the kennels with
211. 8:33your wife and son why would you say
212. 8:35you took the snap and then immediately
213. 8:37woke up and went to go check on your
214. 8:39mother
215. 8:40if you want to dig even deeper into it
216. 8:42if I want to he says he took the nap he
217. 8:45called him he couldn't find him didn't
218. 8:46know where they were but when he comes
219. 8:48home that night at 10 0 four or five
220. 8:52he says uh they weren't there so the
221. 8:55first thing I thought they must be over
222. 8:56at the dog kennels well
223. 8:59it's not that far away if you wanted to
224. 9:01get a hold of them
225. 9:02when you got up from your nap
226. 9:04you go to the dog kennels it's always a
227. 9:06stone's throw away what
228. 9:09it seems like they would actually take a
229. 9:12vehicle over to yeah it does seem weird
230. 9:14to the kennels I mean it I don't think
231. 9:17they typically walk there I think they
232. 9:19they would take a vehicle to that area
233. 9:21well they were saying they did it or
234. 9:23thought they would do it one of the one
235. 9:24of the officers because of the rain
236. 9:27that they they wouldn't take a nice
237. 9:29stroll through the rain okay another you
238. 9:31know what we're sticking with a problem
239. 9:33for Alec is the fact that he tells in
240. 9:37the nine one does the 911 operator he
241. 9:39checked for the policy tells the
242. 9:41officers that show up as well yet it's a
243. 9:43very very bloody scene and there doesn't
244. 9:45appear to be much blood on Alec and he
245. 9:49actually he told the officers that he
246. 9:52attempted to roll Paul over to see it I
247. 9:57guess to check for a pulse and his arms
248. 9:59were his body was face down I guess his
249. 10:02arms were under him and when I was on
250. 10:04court TV with uh Vinnie politan he was
251. 10:07talking about a story or a case that he
252. 10:09had when he was a prosecutor in New York
253. 10:11and there was a rabbi
254. 10:12the somebody was murdered family member
255. 10:15and he won this case he thinks mainly
256. 10:19because
257. 10:21there was no blood on the rabbi the
258. 10:22rabbi said he tried to help them there
259. 10:23was no blood and that the jury really
260. 10:25ate that up interesting note by
261. 10:28buddy Vinnie
262. 10:30that really seemed to be a big theme in
263. 10:34the courtroom today because they're
264. 10:36talking about else clothing the night of
265. 10:40the accident the officers described it
266. 10:43as clean they don't see any evidence of
267. 10:45blood and
268. 10:48they're both kind of taking it in
269. 10:50different ways the prosecution is saying
270. 10:54he clearly changed he clearly
271. 10:57cleaned up
272. 10:58the defense is saying well he doesn't
273. 11:00look like someone who just shot his son
274. 11:03in the head at close proximity there's
275. 11:06that but they're also the other thing
276. 11:09they're kind of they're hinting at and I
277. 11:11think it's going to come out in days to
278. 11:12come is that
279. 11:15allowed his whole property to be
280. 11:19searched they allowed the house and
281. 11:20maybe the police didn't do their job
282. 11:22properly searching the house and the
283. 11:25house that becomes goes back to our
284. 11:27conversation
285. 11:28with you and talks with family members
286. 11:31that the family was in the house the
287. 11:33night of those murders they were allowed
288. 11:36back in yeah we haven't heard about a
289. 11:38bunch of bagged clothes or bagged shoes
290. 11:40other than ones elect wore and you would
291. 11:43think
292. 11:44you're going to grab everything you can
293. 11:45find right definitely and we're hearing
294. 11:48now in this video where where Paul and
295. 11:51Alec were riding around the property
296. 11:53ellic is not wearing the same clothes
297. 11:55that he is pictured in in the dash cam
298. 11:58videos this white T-shirt and these
299. 12:00greenish khaki shorts that would be a
300. 12:04big win for the prosecution for sure so
301. 12:08where are these clothes are they we just
302. 12:10don't know yet are they out there were
303. 12:12they collected or were was where they
304. 12:14never searched for as just a person of
305. 12:17the general population I'm listening to
306. 12:20all this but I'm also thinking the
307. 12:22defense's job is to pick apart every
308. 12:25single little thing that the prosecution
309. 12:27is doing like for example they are
310. 12:29talking about maybe they're not wearing
311. 12:31foot coverings while they're walking
312. 12:34around the crime scene but we hear from
313. 12:37a sled officer today that says an
314. 12:39outdoor crime scene you don't typically
315. 12:40put foot protection on I I think the
316. 12:43truth is somewhere in the middle and as
317. 12:45just I'm trying to just keep it open
318. 12:48mind about everything and listen to it
319. 12:49all with subjective ears the tire tracks
320. 12:53Harpoon was was dwelling on that all
321. 12:57with a good point doesn't necessarily
322. 12:59mean Alex didn't do it but it does seem
323. 13:01like there was a lack of effort
324. 13:03to figure out the tire track situation
325. 13:06and again it was raining so it didn't it
326. 13:09didn't last very long
327. 13:11but that seemed to be a point he was
328. 13:14driving home that maybe they didn't
329. 13:16think about other people
330. 13:19would
331. 13:20bother me you know these tire tracks and
332. 13:23they pointed out yesterday maybe
333. 13:24Footprints maybe these things
334. 13:27may not have been preserved again I'm
335. 13:29still keeping it up in mind maybe they
336. 13:31were and we just don't know about it
337. 13:32maybe they got ruined so quickly by the
338. 13:34rain but didn't have a chance to do much
339. 13:36with it the other thing we want to talk
340. 13:39about because it was talked about so
341. 13:41much
342. 13:42the general Vibe the prosecution
343. 13:46saying that or trying to show that Alec
344. 13:49was not acting as we would think someone
345. 13:53who
346. 13:54has just come upon their mother and son
347. 13:57murder his actions and what he said
348. 14:01didn't Jive the defense is saying well
349. 14:05it doesn't jive because he was in shock
350. 14:07and some of the things he said didn't
351. 14:08make any sense like loading the shotgun
352. 14:11with the wrong
353. 14:12ammunition and he knows better than that
354. 14:15right so so that was
355. 14:18right how they were going after all the
356. 14:20First Responders and and the police
357. 14:22officers Etc did you think the same
358. 14:24thing I did I mean they were saying that
359. 14:26it seemed like Alec was initially trying
360. 14:30to shift blame to the boating accident
361. 14:32and that it had to be a result of the
362. 14:35boating accident because Paul had been
363. 14:37receiving threats he had had some
364. 14:40physical altercations as a result of it
365. 14:42and I don't know I mean it
366. 14:45whether he was trying to shift blame or
367. 14:48whether he was genuinely concerned that
368. 14:51this is what happened
369. 14:53there's a moment that the prosecution
370. 14:56seized on
371. 14:58where that he's talking upset to one of
372. 15:01the officers somebody else comes by us
373. 15:03and he like changes and goes hey how are
374. 15:05you something like that right they
375. 15:07pointed that out you know it's that
376. 15:10was something that I found interesting
377. 15:12that they brought out because to me I
378. 15:15think Alec is
379. 15:17was raised to just be very polite
380. 15:19probably and so him saying that in my
381. 15:24mind doesn't really prove guilt or
382. 15:26innocence I believe if anyone who cares
383. 15:29about my opinion the that it's going to
384. 15:31be a confirmation bias thing that if you
385. 15:34believe he did it everything is every
386. 15:37action he did
387. 15:38shows guilt if you don't believe he did
388. 15:41it every action shows that he was truly
389. 15:44upset and if you are on the fence it
390. 15:49probably doesn't sway you either way as
391. 15:52doesn't the reaction in the courtroom as
392. 15:55they're playing some of these exhibits
393. 15:57and and videos where Alec is crying off
394. 16:01and on sometimes not sometimes a little
395. 16:03sometimes there's not enough tears for
396. 16:05people some are there too much tears for
397. 16:07people and uh again I think that
398. 16:11even if he's crying let's if he is
399. 16:13crying and it's a real cry he could be
400. 16:15crying because he did it and he's upset
401. 16:17he could be crying because he didn't do
402. 16:19it I don't think it means diddly do and
403. 16:21I think everybody's trying to make a big
404. 16:22deal out of it and
405. 16:24eight I don't think it matters
406. 16:27he did seem genuinely upset you know
407. 16:30when I watched from behind since I was
408. 16:33in the courtroom you couldn't really see
409. 16:34him but I did watch back some of the
410. 16:35Court TV stuff and there were actually
411. 16:38real tears and again you don't know why
412. 16:41the real tears were happening so I don't
413. 16:45know
414. 16:46what what really to make of that but
415. 16:50what I do want to say is looking at the
416. 16:53family members behind them you see them
417. 16:56comforting each other you see Buster
418. 16:59visibly upset you see John Marvin
419. 17:02comforting him and this has to be tough
420. 17:05on them it has to be really really hard
421. 17:07it is worth pointing out that if both
422. 17:11his brothers his sister
423. 17:13Buster they were there we have to clear
424. 17:16something up that Snyder said bespoke on
425. 17:21one of our previous
426. 17:23episodes a seat and what that that we
427. 17:26had talked about
428. 17:27they were gone the witness list
429. 17:30so he bespoke that they weren't allowed
430. 17:33in the courtroom but you've since spoken
431. 17:36to him about that so North Carolina and
432. 17:38South Carolina laws differ a little bit
433. 17:40Buster and John Marvin are considered
434. 17:43victims having lost family members so
435. 17:46they are allowed to be in the court
436. 17:48despite being Witnesses good to
437. 17:50straighten that out so speaking of
438. 17:52straightening things out let's go to
439. 17:55the truck Paul's truck
440. 17:57was brought up in
441. 18:01the discussion about the vehicles that
442. 18:04were at the kennel because Alec at one
443. 18:07point mentions he thought Paul would
444. 18:10have driven his truck up to the kennels
445. 18:12and then we find out it wasn't there and
446. 18:15the one Officer says we found that at 10
447. 18:18o'clock the next day so people started
448. 18:20thinking okay was it stolen was what's
449. 18:23the deal on that truck what do you have
450. 18:25for Seton
451. 18:26um it was all over people thought maybe
452. 18:28this was the getaway vehicle but today
453. 18:31it was cleared up in court that it
454. 18:33appears as if the car broke down so that
455. 18:36seems to be
456. 18:37not a point of contention and we
457. 18:40knew from Utah and John Marvin that Paul
458. 18:43was driving
459. 18:44John Marvin struck that night yes so we
460. 18:47got that one right you nailed it all
461. 18:49right you're doing it you're doing great
462. 18:51okay so we go to the Friday testimony
463. 18:55and we find out that this is I think
464. 19:00it's pretty big the the
465. 19:02investigator who is uh Laura Rutland the
466. 19:07ccso crime scene investigator was on the
467. 19:10stand for a long time on Friday and I
468. 19:13thought a pretty big thing was was the
469. 19:16hair that was found explained Seton
470. 19:20it just said that there was they didn't
471. 19:22really go into detail but they were they
472. 19:24just said that there was brown hairs
473. 19:26found in Maggie's hand
474. 19:29I thought that was really interesting I
475. 19:31I hope we find out more information
476. 19:33about this before they tested because if
477. 19:36you have hairs in your hand that to me
478. 19:38indicates that there could potentially
479. 19:39be have been some sort of struggle there
480. 19:42should be more about that coming up you
481. 19:43would think right
482. 19:45um yeah the investigator just said that
483. 19:48she did not believe that was that did
484. 19:50not indicate a struggle but okay I I
485. 19:53wasn't under I was unclear about why she
486. 19:55didn't think that I would again like to
487. 19:57hear more about this brown hair found in
488. 19:59Maggie's hand Seton long week for us all
489. 20:04did great we are going to be doing an
490. 20:06upcoming bonus episode
491. 20:09we are going to be talking about some of
492. 20:11the upcoming Witnesses so that is to
493. 20:14come also want to give a shout out to a
494. 20:17few people who actually came up and
495. 20:19spoke to me in Walterboro this week one
496. 20:22man came out to me and I've never had
497. 20:23anybody recognize me and he he said hey
498. 20:27are you seeing Tucker great work and I
499. 20:30just because I just have never been
500. 20:31recognized I kind of just said oh thank
501. 20:34you and just walked away quickly because
502. 20:35I was embarrassed I'm a little I'm
503. 20:37actually kind of shy most people don't
504. 20:39know that about me wait wait wait a
505. 20:41second was that guy from Australia by
506. 20:43any chance he was not I'm referring to
507. 20:46the a couple of Australians who have uh
508. 20:49written us about how much they love
509. 20:51Seton and that his her husband Len is a
510. 20:54Lucky Block
511. 20:55um so yeah so he was very nice and and
512. 20:59just came up and said he he really liked
513. 21:01the work we were doing and also this
514. 21:04week Jenny and Kinley came out to me and
515. 21:08they spoke to me too so that was really
516. 21:10nice I was like I always get shocked
517. 21:13when I hear about anybody listening to
518. 21:14us yeah I understand we we always say
519. 21:17we're just so grateful that this is uh
520. 21:20worked out like it has and that you're
521. 21:22enjoying it I do want to straighten
522. 21:24another thing out Dr Dupree even told me
523. 21:27that she bespoke when she did this and I
524. 21:29had multiple emails to Matt Harris
525. 21:31podcast gmail.com and one of them was
526. 21:35from Phil he says uh sorry to you all
527. 21:38about the ammunition that goes in the
528. 21:39shotgun it's called a shell not a bullet
529. 21:42he also says also don't know why Dr
530. 21:44Dupree would say it's not recommended to
531. 21:47use two shells with different shot size
532. 21:49in the same gun it's not a safety hazard
533. 21:51because the shells are the same size
534. 21:53they just have different size BBS are
535. 21:56shot inside them and the gun doesn't
536. 21:57know a difference
537. 21:59then I got a couple other emails about
538. 22:03remember she was talking about it was
539. 22:04bird shot and buckshot well apparently
540. 22:07in self-defense for home self-defense
541. 22:10you will use two different ones uh one
542. 22:14to like slow the person down and the
543. 22:16other one to finish them off if you will
544. 22:19and so it's not that unusual
545. 22:22we have received so many comments
546. 22:24probably more than anything about that
547. 22:26subject but if anyone has watched the
548. 22:28Dave Chappelle special he talks about
549. 22:31this very thing bird jet buckshot you
550. 22:34you sent me this was this on our
551. 22:35Facebook page or an email I'm about to
552. 22:37read that was a message that was sent
553. 22:41through our Facebook page that says hi
554. 22:43I've listened to every episode of
555. 22:44y'all's podcast and truly enjoy it I
556. 22:47found it bothersome in the past when
557. 22:48it's been suggested that your podcast
558. 22:51quote sides with Alec
559. 22:53but tonight's really did feel that way
560. 22:55to me which was disappointing even the
561. 22:58quote at the end from seton's Dad that
562. 22:59the state didn't present any evidence
563. 23:00but they gave a time stamp depiction of
564. 23:03actual events I'm just confused he has a
565. 23:05little disappointed of course I'll
566. 23:07continue to listen but hope the
567. 23:08narrative doesn't continue this way
568. 23:12I I actually always really appreciate
569. 23:15feedback and what we've said from the
570. 23:17beginning is we're going to point out
571. 23:21all sides and
572. 23:24I think during this process we're going
573. 23:27to see highs from the prosecution we're
574. 23:29going to see highs from the defense and
575. 23:32I think it's okay to point those both
576. 23:33out
577. 23:34I agree with you it doesn't we're not
578. 23:37saying guilt or innocence when we point
579. 23:40these things out
580. 23:41we're saying this is how one attorney a
581. 23:45very
582. 23:46well respected very experienced attorney
583. 23:49Saul or how he graded the the opening
584. 23:52statements yes and I've seen people
585. 23:55having very different opinions on both
586. 23:59sides and I think it's going to continue
587. 24:01to be this way throughout this process
588. 24:03and throughout the year and a half that
589. 24:06we've been doing the podcast
590. 24:08we've not been giving a lot of opinions
591. 24:10we're trying to present
592. 24:12the things as they come down and in this
593. 24:14case
594. 24:15it's going to be a good day for the
595. 24:16prosecution a good day for the defense
596. 24:19and and people will rate it differently
597. 24:21we're just going to try to talk it
598. 24:24through like we do and uh we love it
599. 24:27though we love it when you write
600. 24:30messages to us or emails to us even if
601. 24:33you're saying you know that we suck or
602. 24:35you disagree with us love it
603. 24:37and we encourage everyone to have their
604. 24:40own opinion and we're really good with
605. 24:42that I think we should wrap and as
606. 24:47always we're grateful Matt Harris
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