The Moment LARRY ELDER changed DAVE RUBINS Mind Forever (Systemic Racism) — Transcript

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1. 0:00So, but you wouldn't not acknowledge
2. 0:02that there are some systemic issues.
3. 0:04Give Give me an example. Tell me what
4. 0:05you think the most systemic racist issue
5. 0:07is. What is it?
6. 0:09Well, I would say that because black
7. 0:11people in most cases, in many cases,
8. 0:13were descendants of slaves, that racism
9. 0:16as a as an institution, that it just
10. 0:18A certain amount of it just exists.
11. 0:202015?
12. 0:21That it just
13. 0:21Give me the most blatant racist example
14. 0:23you can come up with right now.
15. 0:24Um
16. 0:26I think you could probably find evidence
17. 0:29that in general, cops are that that cops
18. 0:32are more willing to shoot if the uh
19. 0:37perpetrator is black
20. 0:38What's your data? What's your What's
21. 0:39your basis for saying that? Last year
22. 0:41Well, look, I know a lot of people would
23. 0:42say, "Look what's going on in Chicago."
24. 0:43I know what they would say. I'm talking
25. 0:44about what the facts are. 965 people
26. 0:46were shot by cops last last year and
27. 0:48killed. 4% of them were white cops
28. 0:50shooting unarmed blacks. In In Chicago
29. 0:53in 2011, 21 people were shot and killed
30. 0:55by cops. Uh in 2015, there were seven.
31. 0:58Uh in Chicago, which is a third black, a
32. 1:00third white, and a third Hispanic, 70%
33. 1:03of the homicides are black-on-black. Uh
34. 1:05about 40 per month, almost 500 in the
35. 1:07year per year last year in Chicago, and
36. 1:1075% of them are unsolved. Where is the
37. 1:12Black Lives Matter on that? The idea
38. 1:14that a racist white cop uh and shooting
39. 1:17unarmed black people is a peril to black
40. 1:19people is BS. It's complete and total
41. 1:22BS. And and the reason for these
42. 1:25so-called activists saying this is the
43. 1:27assumption that racism remains a major
44. 1:28problem in America. The media, CNN,
45. 1:30especially MSNBC, runs down whenever a
46. 1:33black cop shoots somebody, uh and it it
47. 1:35and it's a some some march on
48. 1:37Washington. It's ridiculous. Uh black
49. 1:39people Half the homicides in this
50. 1:41country are committed by and against
51. 1:42black people. Last year, there were
52. 1:4314,000 homicides, not talking about
53. 1:45suicides, I'm talking about homicides.
54. 1:47Mhm.
55. 1:47Um half of them were black, 96% of them
56. 1:50black-on-black of that 7,000. Where is
57. 1:52the black Black Lives Matter people on
58. 1:54that?
59. 1:54So, that there's where you would say
60. 1:56that this is purely because of social
61. 1:58justice. This is purely because they
62. 2:00want ultimately for people to be angry
63. 2:02enough to just keep voting Democrats.
64. 2:05That's right. And And where's where's
65. 2:06the evidence of a lack of social
66. 2:07justice? When a black
67. 2:10suspect is killed by by a cop, believe
68. 2:13me, the media's on it. People are
69. 2:14watching it.
70. 2:15And And justice will will for the most
71. 2:18part occur. In Baltimore, where Freddie
72. 2:21Gray was killed, Freddie Gray died in a
73. 2:23van. I shouldn't say was killed, died in
74. 2:24a van.
75. 2:25Yeah.
76. 2:25You have a city that's 45%
77. 2:28black. City council is 100% Democrat.
78. 2:32The majority of city council is black.
79. 2:33The top cop at the time was was black.
80. 2:36The number two cop was black. The
81. 2:37majority of the command staff is black.
82. 2:39The The mayor is black. The AG is black.
83. 2:42And yet here we are talking about
84. 2:44racism. I mean, it's it's absurd.
85. 2:46Yeah.
86. 2:46Absurd.
87. 2:47So, it's funny. I find myself caught in
88. 2:48between this a little bit as a liberal,
89. 2:50where I want to always try to defend the
90. 2:53other. So, in this case, the other being
91. 2:56black people, I I'm always sympathetic
92. 2:57to that. And then Yeah, yeah, at the
93. 2:59same time I hear you laying out a pretty
94. 3:01solid case.
95. 3:01Well, yeah, just the fact I'll tell you
96. 3:02something else, too. There was just a
97. 3:03study
98. 3:05University of Washington. And it turns
99. 3:07out cops were more reluctant, more
100. 3:09hesitant to pull the trigger against a
101. 3:11black black suspect than a white
102. 3:13suspect. Probably because of the fear of
103. 3:15being accused of racially profiling and
104. 3:17the fear that the civil rights
105. 3:19establishment was going to come down on
106. 3:20them. So, if anything, whites are more
107. 3:23likely to be shot by a cop under under
108. 3:24certain circumstances than a than a
109. 3:26black person. And in last 30 or 40
110. 3:28years, the number of percentage of
111. 3:31suspects killed by cops who are black
112. 3:34has declined 75%.
113. 3:36However, the percentage of whites killed
114. 3:38by cops has flatlined.
115. 3:39Yeah.
116. 3:39And so, if anything, people are more
117. 3:41concerned about shooting black people
118. 3:42for fear that they're going to be called
119. 3:44racist. And almost all of every one of
120. 3:46these incidents, whether it's Eric
121. 3:47Garner in in New York, who died because
122. 3:50he was selling loosies and he resisted
123. 3:51arrest, whether it's Tamir Rice in
124. 3:53Cleveland who was twirling around the
125. 3:54gun, whether it's Michael Brown in
126. 3:56Ferguson who had just committed an
127. 3:59strong arm robbery. Almost every one of
128. 4:01these incidents involved somebody
129. 4:02resisting arrest. Why don't you just do
130. 4:04what the police tell you? My dad said
131. 4:06when I get pulled over, have my hand at
132. 4:0810:00, have my hand at 2:00, say yes,
133. 4:10sir, say no, sir, make sure my paperwork
134. 4:12is in order. And if I feel the cop is
135. 4:14mistreating me, get a badge number and
136. 4:16deal with it later on. If Jesse Jackson
137. 4:18and Al Sharpton and Obama and the whole
138. 4:21group of them told black people to do
139. 4:23that, we'd have a lot fewer of these
140. 4:24things to deal with in the first place.
141. 4:26Yeah. All right. So, I'm with you. I'm
142. 4:29hearing a lot of what you're saying
143. 4:30here. So, as a black conservative then,
144. 4:33who now you've you've laid out your case
145. 4:35there,
146. 4:36But you haven't laid out yours. I asked
147. 4:38I asked you to name the most important
148. 4:40example of racism and you gave white
149. 4:42cops going after black people. And I and
150. 4:43I told you gave you the facts for that.
151. 4:45So, that's nonsense. So, what you must
152. 4:46have something else. What else is it? If
153. 4:48you think racism remains a problem in
154. 4:49America, to me.
155. 4:50Well, I think it remains a problem. It's
156. 4:52not It's not It may not be systemic in
157. 4:54that we have It's not like you're not
158. 4:55being hired because you're black.
159. 4:57There's no systemic reason, you know,
160. 4:59legal reason that that exists, that kind
161. 5:01of thing. But I think that racism as a
162. 5:03general uh
163. 5:04I need some
164. 5:05theory
165. 5:05I need some I need some specifics. You
166. 5:07gave me the white cop thing. What else
167. 5:08give me another example where you think
168. 5:10is a problem?
169. 5:11Well, well, as a black conservative,
170. 5:13tell me how do
171. 5:14you
172. 5:14How do you get people to
173. 5:16You're you're the one who made the
174. 5:17assertion that you think racism remains
175. 5:18a major problem in America. I asked you
176. 5:20to give me an example. You gave me white
177. 5:21cops going after blacks. I As far as I'm
178. 5:24concerned, you didn't hold it up very
179. 5:25well. What's the other argument you
180. 5:26have? What what's the other thing?
181. 5:28Well, I don't know that it's systemic in
182. 5:30that in the sort of macro sense.
183. 5:32I'm not I'm not mad. I just I just want
184. 5:33I just want to know what what it is
185. 5:34you're you're talking about.
186. 5:35I That's exactly what I That's Believe
187. 5:37me, that's 100% what I wanted to say.
188. 5:39Blacks are not getting into school? BS.
189. 5:41We have a race We have affirmative
190. 5:42action. So, a black person with an with
191. 5:44an SAT and a GPA
192. 5:46of X will will get into a school faster
193. 5:49and easier than a white person with an
194. 5:51SAT or a GPA of X. And if going to going
195. 5:54to school is a route to the middle
196. 5:56class, you can make an argument that
197. 5:57blacks have an easier route to the
198. 5:58middle to the middle class. If you're
199. 6:00talking about blacks about poverty,
200. 6:04the poorer you are, the more accessible
201. 6:06loans and grants are for you.
202. 6:08The the the the problem the biggest
203. 6:10burden that black people have in my
204. 6:11opinion, again, is the percentage of
205. 6:13blacks 75% of them that are raised
206. 6:16without fathers.
207. 6:17And that has every other social negative
208. 6:20consequence that connected to it. Crime,
209. 6:22not being able to compete economically
210. 6:24in the country, being more likely to be
211. 6:26arrested. That's the number one problem
212. 6:27facing the black community. And when I
213. 6:29hear people tell me about systemic
214. 6:31racism or unconscious racism, I always
215. 6:33say give me an example and almost nobody
216. 6:35can do it.
217. 6:36So so the family stuff. So I'll I'll
218. 6:38follow your logic there on the family
219. 6:40stuff. What what can actually be done
220. 6:42about that then? I mean what because
221. 6:43that's that's a big
222. 6:44Reverse the welfare state. Uh in um
223. 6:481890, 1900, you look at census reports.
224. 6:51A black kid, believe it or not, was
225. 6:53slightly more likely to be born to a
226. 6:54nuclear intact family than a white kid.
227. 6:56Even during slavery,
228. 6:58a black kid was more likely to be born
229. 7:00under a roof with his biological mother
230. 7:02and biological father than today. What's
231. 7:04happened is we launched this so-called
232. 7:06war on poverty in the '60s.
233. 7:09Where literally Lyndon Johnson sent
234. 7:10people knocking on doors.
235. 7:13I lived in the '60s and people knocked
236. 7:15on doors apprising women of their
237. 7:17availability to welfare provided there
238. 7:18was no man in the house.
239. 7:20And we went from 25% of blacks being
240. 7:22born outside of wedlock in '65 to 75%
241. 7:25right now. And you look at how much
242. 7:27money that we spent on welfare and the
243. 7:29lines are parallel. It was a neutron
244. 7:31bomb dropped on this country, not just
245. 7:33on the black community, but on people in
246. 7:35general.
247. 7:36At one time, only about 5% of whites
248. 7:38were born outside of wedlock. Now 25% of
249. 7:40whites are born outside of wedlock. I
250. 7:42was in college in 1970
251. 7:44and there was a report called the
252. 7:46Moynihan report. Uh the Negro family, a
253. 7:48case for national action. It was written
254. 7:50by a liberal, by a man who became uh a
255. 7:52Democratic senator for the from from New
256. 7:54York. And at the time, 25% of black kids
257. 7:56were born outside of wedlock. He said,
258. 7:57"My God, this number is is horrific. If
259. 7:59we don't do something about it, it could
260. 8:01get even higher." Well, fast forward,
261. 8:0325% of white kids are now born outside
262. 8:05of wedlock. It is the number one problem
263. 8:07in this country and what we've done, in
264. 8:08my opinion, is we've economically
265. 8:10incentivized women to marry the
266. 8:11government and we've allowed men to
267. 8:13abandon their financial and moral
268. 8:14responsibility. And now we have this.