The Miracle Doctor: Get Your Sex Life Back, Melt Belly Fat & Heal Your Injury! Dr. Mindy Pelz | E256 — Transcript
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- 0:00feminist women out there are not going
- 0:01to like this women are perishing in this
- 0:04modern world more than men well that's
- 0:06terrifying if we want to exist on this
- 0:09planet we're going to have to do Dr
- 0:11Mindy Pelt renowned functional health
- 0:13expert bestselling author and keynote
- 0:15speaker one of the leading voices in
- 0:17educating us about our bodies spending
- 0:20two decades helping Millions worldwide
- 0:22you got pretty famous from talking about
- 0:24this certain subject matter which is
- 0:26fasting what do I need to know research
- 0:28shows it's going to make me stronger
- 0:30more lean
- 0:321,300% increase in testosterone in men
- 0:35oh wow we see inflammation go down
- 0:37growth hormone go up it's the hormone
- 0:39that keeps you young and helps you burn
- 0:40fat you know where it dropped the most
- 0:42amount of weight belly yep literally
- 0:45takes cells that are turning into cancer
- 0:47and it gets rid of those you are tapping
- 0:49into a healing state that you never knew
- 0:51was there I'm sold where do I stop so
- 0:54the first place to start is menstration
- 0:56or the Big M is considered a taboo topic
- 1:00I'm going to say something which is
- 1:01really embarrassing here I know nothing
- 1:02about menstrual cycles I'm in a
- 1:04relationship what advice have you got
- 1:05for me well the first is do you know her
- 1:07cycle moving on tell me about your
- 1:11childhood let me give you gold first two
- 1:13days give her some space if you have any
- 1:15conflict you want to resolve with her do
- 1:17it between Day 2 and day 12 her libido
- 1:20is going to be the highest between day
- 1:2110 and day 15 and then here's the goal
- 1:24you're going to have to report back to
- 1:25me how this works around day 17 this is
- 1:27where you got
- 1:28to once in a while on this podcast I
- 1:31have a conversation that I desperately
- 1:34wish I'd had sooner this is one of those
- 1:38conversations I'd heard about fasting
- 1:40but I had no idea no idea at all of its
- 1:44potentially lifechanging impact weight
- 1:47loss your sex life A woman's menstrual
- 1:50cycle how to heal from illness and
- 1:53injury the incredible power of fasting
- 1:56I'm incredibly happy that you chose to
- 1:58listen to this particular conversation
- 1:59because if you're like me and you've
- 2:01never really taken the time to
- 2:03understand fasting and you don't
- 2:05understand the six types of fasting then
- 2:08maybe this is the conversation you've
- 2:09always needed to hear because it
- 2:11certainly was for me you are really
- 2:14really going to enjoy this one take my
- 2:16word for
- 2:18[Music]
- 2:23it
- 2:26Mindy if you took the full body of work
- 2:29that you've produced over the last let's
- 2:31say 10 years and the work that you're
- 2:33going to produce over the next 10 years
- 2:35and you had to
- 2:37summarize the mission that you're on and
- 2:41why it
- 2:42matters how would you do that wow that's
- 2:44a great question um I'm trying to
- 2:48empower people to believe in themselves
- 2:50again and I want to do that through
- 2:53everything that in our lifestyle that
- 2:55Taps into our body's own ability to heal
- 2:57itself we' have gotten so far far off
- 3:00course we don't even realize that we're
- 3:02giving so much of our health power away
- 3:04our happiness power away and all we've
- 3:07got to do is come back home to ourselves
- 3:09and learn that every single thing inside
- 3:11of us every cell every neuron everything
- 3:14is working for us not against us and we
- 3:17have to stop villainizing our body we
- 3:19got to figure out how to believe in
- 3:20ourselves again we're the ones that are
- 3:22going to save ourselves and we've just
- 3:24lost our way what have we fallen into
- 3:27the Trap of believing well in the health
- 3:29World we've totally fallen into the Trap
- 3:32that if I take this pill if I do this
- 3:35diet if I do this exercise then that
- 3:38will cure me nobody cures you you cure
- 3:42yourself and so you have to start to
- 3:44look at the human body as this
- 3:46self-healing organism that's always
- 3:49figuring out how to keep you alive how
- 3:51to keep you at your best and if you're
- 3:54not feeling at your best then the only
- 3:56thing you to look at is that there's an
- 3:58interference there's physical emotional
- 4:01spiritual chemical interference that is
- 4:03pulling you away from this power that's
- 4:06inside of you so that you can start to
- 4:08heal Once you pull those away you see
- 4:11yourself in a whole new light I mean
- 4:13this is what fasting did for millions of
- 4:15people you just see yourself so
- 4:17differently in what you're capable of
- 4:18doing where where have we gone wrong in
- 4:21terms of our attitude towards what it is
- 4:24to be a human because you know I often
- 4:25think much of the health advice that we
- 4:29is through thrown at us these days has
- 4:31this underlying belief that like in some
- 4:33way we're broken yeah yeah yeah oh my I
- 4:37I so agree with you it's the messaging
- 4:40is like you did something wrong you have
- 4:42a genetic profile that you're doomed to
- 4:45to have a you know a disastrous outcome
- 4:48and everything is is is exogenously
- 4:51blamed at us and I really think that
- 4:55that comes from not only our Health Care
- 4:57system and I and I'm not trying to bash
- 4:59the healthare system but we have lost
- 5:00our way and it comes from for women
- 5:04specifically it comes from the messaging
- 5:06we get from you know social media and
- 5:08magazines like everything is outside in
- 5:11we got to go inside out now and start
- 5:14asking what we want on a physical
- 5:16spiritual emotional level so that we can
- 5:19create the life we want and stop looking
- 5:21outside for the answers we got to go
- 5:23within I love that inside inside out the
- 5:26inside out inside out living you got
- 5:28pretty famous from talking about this
- 5:30certain subject matter which is fasting
- 5:32yeah now I want to talk about fasting
- 5:34because I've heard about it and I I I'm
- 5:36sure here I represent a lot of my
- 5:38audience right now I've heard the term
- 5:40fasting I've heard loads of people in
- 5:42recent times over the last I'd say two
- 5:43years get really excited about it and
- 5:46say that it's a good thing yeah but
- 5:48that's really the extent of my knowledge
- 5:49on the subject so let's just start right
- 5:52there I mean you wrote a book called
- 5:54fast like a girl you've got so much
- 5:56content out on the internet about
- 5:57fasting for both men and women this book
- 5:59was written in
- 6:022022 why why why are you so focused on
- 6:06fasting why do I need to care about it
- 6:09what's it going to do for me it it's the
- 6:11quickest antidote to what we just said
- 6:14if we've got all this physical emotional
- 6:16chemical stress coming at us we've got
- 6:18taste buds we've got to change we've got
- 6:20behaviors we have to change there's a
- 6:22lot there but I can show you how to
- 6:25compress your eating window into a
- 6:2810-hour eating window leaving 14 hours
- 6:30for fasting something as simple as 14
- 6:32hours and I can show you how you can
- 6:35start to heal yourself without money
- 6:37without time it's you are literally
- 6:40tapping into a healing state that you
- 6:43never knew was there and I think part of
- 6:46why we've had so many people pour on to
- 6:48YouTube and so many women gravitate to
- 6:51the book is that it's it's so once you
- 6:54learn how to fast you start to see your
- 6:57body in this whole new way it can Absol
- 6:59absolutely heal itself so for me fasting
- 7:03became this incredible tool that
- 7:05everybody could do and we just had to
- 7:08learn how to do it the women that I'm
- 7:11watching that are just dropping I mean
- 7:14men and women hundreds of pounds and
- 7:16medications they're getting off of and
- 7:19mental health that's coming back just
- 7:21because I taught them how to compress
- 7:23their eating window and leave a longer
- 7:25time for rest so their body can repair
- 7:28that is all each individual is doing
- 7:30that I didn't do that I'm the type of
- 7:33person that very much needs
- 7:35like stats believe things I'm one of
- 7:38those people and once I've got the stats
- 7:40or some kind of like scientific evidence
- 7:42then I'm all in beautiful what do I need
- 7:45to know from a scientific standpoint
- 7:47what research has been done on fasting
- 7:49okay so let's let's go through the basic
- 7:51principle of fasting and I think this
- 7:53will help everybody is that you have two
- 7:56metabolisms so you burn energy when you
- 7:59eat
- 8:00and you burn energy when you don't eat
- 8:03but there are two different
- 8:04mechanisms so when you eat like let's
- 8:07use myself as an example I had eggs and
- 8:09some avocado for like around 11 o'clock
- 8:11today so that's going to bring my blood
- 8:13sugar up now as my blood sugar starts to
- 8:17drop what's going to happen is my body's
- 8:19going to switch over into this other
- 8:22Energy System and I call this the fat
- 8:24burning Energy System I call this one
- 8:26the sugar burner Energy System when it
- 8:29switch over into this fat burning Energy
- 8:32System it starts to make a byproduct
- 8:34called a ketone and that Ketone will go
- 8:38up into the brain and it starts to
- 8:40repair your brain and what most people
- 8:43don't realize is your brain is needs 50%
- 8:45ketones 50% glucose so you're giving a
- 8:48fuel source to your brain that it
- 8:51desperately needs which is why people
- 8:53when they fast are like their mental
- 8:55Clarity goes up their cognition improves
- 8:57their brain fog goes away because
- 8:59because you're literally giving a fuel
- 9:01source to your brain that it may never
- 9:03had have been given before it takes
- 9:07about eight somewhere between eight
- 9:09hours to metabolically switch over into
- 9:12this fat burning Place ah okay so if I'm
- 9:14doing a podcast and I want to be sharp
- 9:17yes I shouldn't eat eight hours before
- 9:19yes ah
- 9:21[ __ ] did you come back in seven
- 9:23hours seven
- 9:26hours yeah
- 9:28sure should have given you the memo
- 9:30before we got
- 9:31here yeah so I think of it like a hybrid
- 9:34car you know you you're SW you switch
- 9:36over into this fat burning place so at
- 9:39eight hours you start to make the switch
- 9:42by about 12 hours your body's now
- 9:44starting to make a good dose of ketones
- 9:47the brain is excited so you're getting
- 9:49that mental Clarity ketones turn off the
- 9:51hunger hormone so you also when you
- 9:53switch over at there's going to be a
- 9:55point which you're not hungry um and
- 9:57that all happens at about 12 hours but
- 10:00you're also if you stay there a little
- 10:02longer if you stay there and you go 14
- 10:05hours 15 hours so check this out
- 10:07research shows at 15 hours we see growth
- 10:11hormone go up okay growth hormone is the
- 10:14hormone that keeps you young and helps
- 10:15you burn fat we also see in men,
- 10:191300% increase in testosterone just from
- 10:23somewhere between a 13 to 15 hour fast
- 10:26133% increase in natural testost Stone
- 10:29stores and we can explain why that
- 10:32happens in a moment and then we start to
- 10:34see inflammation go down so all of a
- 10:37sudden if you have people who have like
- 10:38joints that are hurting they start doing
- 10:4015 hours of fasting every day and
- 10:42they're like God you know my joints just
- 10:44don't have that same stiffness in them
- 10:46anymore but if you stay in that fasted
- 10:50window you keep going 17 hours your
- 10:53brilliant body turns within and it goes
- 10:55wait a second no food's coming in we
- 10:57better get stronger so it literally
- 11:00takes this the bad cells the cells that
- 11:02are slowing you down the cells that are
- 11:04turning into cancer and it gets rid of
- 11:06those they're called ccent cells and it
- 11:08it literally recycles them out of your
- 11:10system and it goes into the cells that
- 11:13are still usable and it makes them
- 11:14stronger it fixes the inner Cellular
- 11:17Parts we call that autophagy and that
- 11:20actually was the if you want stats the
- 11:22Nobel Prize in 2015 by a Japanese
- 11:26scientist Dr osumi he won the Nobel
- 11:28Prize medicine and Physiology for this
- 11:31term called autophagy and that's when
- 11:33you go without food your cell your cells
- 11:36will heal
- 11:38themselves that was back in
- 11:402015 so I want to go into all of that I
- 11:42want to start with why why does why does
- 11:46fasting help so much and really like
- 11:47what I'm getting at there is if
- 11:49this if the effects of this are so
- 11:52profound in so many ways then where did
- 11:55we go wrong because from what I you know
- 11:58have been told breakfast lunch dinner
- 12:00yeah breakfast lunch dinner and then
- 12:02maybe you know dessert yeah and then you
- 12:05know yeah that's the narrative that I
- 12:07was brought up on yeah well breakfast is
- 12:09the most important meal a day I've done
- 12:11a lot of research on that phrase do you
- 12:13know where it came from no it was
- 12:16actually and I don't mean to diss any
- 12:18companies out there but it was a tagline
- 12:20that they came up with for cornflakes
- 12:22for Kellogg's cornflakes back in the
- 12:251970s they needed a tagline that made
- 12:27people eat corn flakes in in the morning
- 12:30and so they came up with cornflakes
- 12:32breakfast is the most important meal of
- 12:33the day and that has continued until
- 12:37this day we I can't find any research
- 12:40and and many other fasting experts many
- 12:43other blood sugar experts will tell you
- 12:44the same thing there's just no research
- 12:47showing that breakfast is the most
- 12:48important meal of the day so that became
- 12:51that became a a a myth that we need to
- 12:54bust second myth we've been taught is
- 12:57you can speed your metabolism up the
- 12:59more you eat six meals a day remember
- 13:02that one okay also a myth there is no
- 13:06evidence that the more you eat the
- 13:08faster your metabolism will be the F if
- 13:11you want a faster metabolism you need to
- 13:13know how to metabolically switch you
- 13:15need to know how to go from sugar burner
- 13:16to fat burner and that's where you start
- 13:19to lose weight so that's the SEC the the
- 13:22other myth that I feel like we have to
- 13:23break apart and then we have this you
- 13:26know I can tell you as a mother and I
- 13:28and this is you know not for anybody to
- 13:30have M mommy guilt but what we do as
- 13:33parents is we have certain statements we
- 13:35make to our kids like you know breakf
- 13:38dinner's being served the kitchen's
- 13:40closing in an hour um you need to eat
- 13:42lunch you need to eat breakfast like we
- 13:45are programmed when to eat by a clock
- 13:48not by our own internal sense so kids
- 13:52are raised to eat according to a clock
- 13:55not according to when they want to
- 13:58eat we don't say am I hungry right
- 14:02now that's so true we all wait until 1:
- 14:06p.m. to have lunch and the morning we
- 14:08wake up we feel like we we have to have
- 14:10breakfast or we're doing something wrong
- 14:12yep and then dinner time you know
- 14:13anytime between I don't know 6:00 and
- 14:15eight we have to sit down and eat again
- 14:18or we're doing something wrong yep like
- 14:20have you like if you just unwind that
- 14:23yeah where did that come from right
- 14:25usually from your parents and it came
- 14:27from a schedule what did my ancestors do
- 14:30before my parents existed and and my and
- 14:32the schedules existed I can tell you
- 14:34exactly what they did what did they do
- 14:36they came out of the cave I'm going to
- 14:38go back to our our Primal friends go
- 14:41back to our cave friends they came out
- 14:43of a cave they didn't have refrigerator
- 14:45they didn't have a pantry they didn't
- 14:47have door Dash they had to go find food
- 14:50did they have Uber Eats they didn't have
- 14:52Uber Eats delivery yeah I'm pretty sure
- 14:54they didn't have U eats but what they
- 14:56did is they came out of the cave and
- 14:58they went to go hunt hunt
- 14:59food sometimes they could make a kill
- 15:02really easily and bring it home and they
- 15:04would
- 15:05Feast sometimes the kill wasn't as easy
- 15:07and they had to go far to find an animal
- 15:10to kill
- 15:12exercise exercise but what did they do
- 15:14when they had to go super far and they
- 15:16couldn't get food they switched over
- 15:18into this ketogenic Energy System and
- 15:21that ketogenic Energy System supercharg
- 15:23them because every cell in the human
- 15:25body is the number one priority of our
- 15:29cells is survival so we were built to
- 15:31make sure we could stay alive in the
- 15:34absence of food so their ketones kicked
- 15:38in and when ketones kicked in they
- 15:39became mentally very focused so they
- 15:42could go find food they were able to
- 15:44stay calm ketones will affect a
- 15:47neurotransmitter called Gaba and cause G
- 15:49Gaba to come on so you feel calm you're
- 15:51focused ketones will power up your
- 15:53muscles so that all of a sudden you have
- 15:55this incredible muscular energy all
- 15:58because
- 15:59they were meant to go find food so they
- 16:01can bring it home okay so the body which
- 16:03is orientated towards survival when you
- 16:06hadn't eaten it invests a lot of its
- 16:08sort of resources in your brain to
- 16:10increase the chances that you'll catch
- 16:12something to eat so that's why when I
- 16:14fast or when I haven't eaten I'm very
- 16:16focused I'm very articulate that's right
- 16:18it seems um and I perform at my best
- 16:21Bingo that's it makes sense and then
- 16:23what what did they do when they got a
- 16:25kill they came home and they feasted
- 16:29they didn't necessarily ration it out
- 16:31they ate and then they divied it up
- 16:33again amongst the tribe and then they
- 16:35went out again until when the food was
- 16:37gone maybe a couple days maybe they'd
- 16:39Feast for a couple days when the food
- 16:41was gone they go out again it's called
- 16:43Feast famine cycling it is how humans
- 16:45were meant to be to live the challenge
- 16:49we have is we have access to food all
- 16:51the time that we are you know feasting
- 16:54has taken on a really negative
- 16:56connotation because we're feasting on
- 16:58the wrong Foods M but if we could go
- 17:00back and just be like our Primal friends
- 17:03and we could learn how to go in and out
- 17:05of this Feast famine cycling using
- 17:07fasting as as a tool for performance for
- 17:10healing and using food in the proper way
- 17:12and eating the right food so that our
- 17:14brains will work well and you know
- 17:16there's a whole hormonal pack or sense
- 17:18of of food that can help support
- 17:20hormones if we're really conscious about
- 17:22the quality of the food that we eat
- 17:25we're now mimicking what our Primal
- 17:27ancestors were doing does that also
- 17:29imply that we should exercise fasted
- 17:32because I was thinking if thinking about
- 17:34my ancestors they would have been doing
- 17:35the most physical activity when they
- 17:37hadn't eaten yet that's right yeah they
- 17:39would have been doing the most physical
- 17:40activity right before they ate yeah so
- 17:44really interesting point and and you and
- 17:46I were talking about this in the
- 17:47beginning is that when you exercise in a
- 17:50fasted State you're going to get rid of
- 17:53the glucose that's been stored in your
- 17:55muscles so as that glucose comes out
- 17:58because your body body needs it to go
- 17:59you know you you don't work 100% off of
- 18:03ketones and 100% off of glucose you're
- 18:05needing both of them at both time at at
- 18:08at different moments of your day so when
- 18:10you're exercising in a fasted State
- 18:12you're getting ketones and your muscles
- 18:15are releasing stored sugar which is
- 18:17great for anybody who wants to lose
- 18:19weight because now you can lean out
- 18:22those muscles now let's go back to what
- 18:24our Primal ancestors did when they came
- 18:26home they ate meat they ate protein and
- 18:30they stimulated something called mtor
- 18:32mtor is when you actually create muscle
- 18:35growth and what we now know is it takes
- 18:37about 30 grams of protein to trigger
- 18:40these amino acid receptor sites in the
- 18:42muscles to cause them to grow stronger
- 18:44so for you if you work out in a fasted
- 18:46State you're going to release all those
- 18:48stores you're going to have those
- 18:49ketones for performance but then you
- 18:51want to follow that up with protein so
- 18:53you can build your muscles strong and
- 18:55that is a hack that has worked
- 18:57incredibly well for for so many people
- 19:00okay historically people have thought
- 19:02that
- 19:03fasting is a one- siiz kind of fits all
- 19:06um technique and there's one kind of
- 19:08fasting which is you just I don't know
- 19:09you might just not eat for a prolong
- 19:11period of time but in your book and
- 19:13throughout your work you describe these
- 19:14six different types of fasting yeah what
- 19:18are the six types of fasting and tell me
- 19:21what the the difference is in outcome
- 19:22and benefit yeah it's a great question
- 19:25so again fasting is when we switch over
- 19:28so now we're in the fat burning uh place
- 19:31at about 13 to 15 hours we start making
- 19:33ketones this is intermittent fasting
- 19:36that's pretty much what most people when
- 19:37they say they're intermittent fasting
- 19:39that's what they're doing okay they take
- 19:4012 to 16 hours yeah they're making
- 19:43ketones testosterone's going up
- 19:45inflammation's coming down hunger might
- 19:48be going away they're kind of having
- 19:49this they might be a lot of people lose
- 19:51weight with that it's it's kind of the
- 19:53most common fast does it matter from the
- 19:55the window does it matter what time I
- 19:56start and what time I end you get to
- 19:58choose you choose what that window
- 20:00should be so I could eat at 3:00 a.m.
- 20:03you could there's a whole another level
- 20:04we can talk about why you don't want to
- 20:06eat in the dark what's ideal an ideal
- 20:08window do you think um I really like it
- 20:10depends on the on the time of the year
- 20:12but in the summer I really like
- 20:13somewhere if you're going to do an 8
- 20:14Hour eating window like 11 to 7 in the
- 20:18summer and then in the winter because
- 20:20it's darker earlier you would do more
- 20:22like a like a 10 to five kind of eating
- 20:26window it's not so hard to do 11 to S
- 20:28right
- 20:30not hard at all not hard at all that's
- 20:31not that's not fasting that's that's
- 20:33just a slight having a a slightly later
- 20:36breakfast and a slightly earlier dinner
- 20:38yeah but it's it's like being
- 20:39intentional right yeah exactly because
- 20:41you don't want to you got to you got to
- 20:43keep blood sugar low otherwise the
- 20:44minute blood sugar goes up you're going
- 20:46to switch over right so you can't put it
- 20:49you know if you walk past the kitchen
- 20:50and put a grape in your mouth yeah yeah
- 20:52exactly yeah yeah which is you pulled
- 20:54yourself guil of yes yes so that's the
- 20:57first type of the six fast
- 20:59um styles the second is I'm going to try
- 21:03and say this
- 21:04word or of ai ai AO
- 21:09aagi it's one way of saying it people
- 21:12say either call it um autophagy or
- 21:16autophagy people say it different you
- 21:18tell me I said it wrong I kind of landed
- 21:20on autophagy I feel like autophagy is
- 21:22the best way to say it autophagy fasting
- 21:24what's that so autophagy fasting is
- 21:26about 17 hours in with without food your
- 21:30cells will turn within and they'll start
- 21:31to heal themselves and that was what Dr
- 21:34osi's big uh Discovery was is that the
- 21:37cells clean themselves up so what's
- 21:39interesting on this one and this is
- 21:40something I really want to get out to
- 21:42the world is that when you stimulate
- 21:45autophagy what you're doing is you're
- 21:47turning on the intelligence inside the
- 21:49cell and that intelligence is looking
- 21:50around and it's going hey there's a
- 21:52virus there's a bacteria get them out so
- 21:56let's push these infections out out of
- 21:58the cell that mitochondria it's not
- 22:00working well we need to repair it that
- 22:02endoplasmic reticulum inside here it's
- 22:05it's lagging we need to fix it so it
- 22:07literally goes in and fixes everything
- 22:09inside the cell just at 17 hours but one
- 22:13of the greatest studies that was I've
- 22:14seen in fasting was done during covid
- 22:17and it showed that if a virus comes into
- 22:20a cell that's in a state of autophagy it
- 22:22can't replicate viruses have to live off
- 22:25of your energy system so when viruses go
- 22:28into a cell that's Laden with glucose
- 22:31they have a party in there they love
- 22:33that they munch on that and then they go
- 22:35out and they start replicating if you
- 22:37were in a fasted State when a virus
- 22:40comes in it can't replicate there's
- 22:42nothing inside that cell for that virus
- 22:44to take over and it
- 22:46dies why does that happen what's the
- 22:49reason for the the that sort of the CEO
- 22:52within my C looking around and saying
- 22:54right let's clean all this stuff up well
- 22:56because the it when once you've stim at
- 22:58autophagy there is one goal for that
- 23:00cell and that is survival so everything
- 23:03in there is on high alert okay
- 23:06everything is going to be in your
- 23:07survival interest so a virus is not in
- 23:09your surv survival interest so it pushes
- 23:11it out so it's kind of like an emergency
- 23:13signal because there's not been food for
- 23:15a while
- 23:16so it's kind of like the
- 23:18last the last attempt to do everything
- 23:21the body can to help you make it through
- 23:23this period of hunger or that's right
- 23:26that's right you've put yourself in this
- 23:28state of extreme healing and it's all
- 23:31based off of this idea that your body
- 23:33wants to stay
- 23:34alive okay so that's are you write in
- 23:36your book that that's good for balancing
- 23:38sex hormones and preventing colds so
- 23:41yeah with with autophagy it's great for
- 23:43preventing colds what here's what's
- 23:45interesting about autophagy for sex
- 23:48hormones is that the major part of your
- 23:50brain for both men and women that
- 23:52control hormonal all hormonal control is
- 23:56your hypothalamus and pituitary that
- 23:58part of the brain does not have a bloodb
- 24:00brain barrier so it's very vulnerable to
- 24:03toxins so whenever we have massive toxic
- 24:07exposure that part of the brain starts
- 24:10to malfunction we see this with uh
- 24:13polycystic ovarian syndrome most common
- 24:16hormonal imbalance for women well a lot
- 24:18of that is this imbalance of
- 24:20testosterone and estrogen and there's a
- 24:22huge toxic piece that has destroyed or
- 24:25or in interfered with the part of the
- 24:27brain that control
- 24:28hormones so when we look at
- 24:31autophagy there are certain parts of our
- 24:34system that are more uh easily
- 24:37influenced by autophagy than others well
- 24:39it turns out the hypothalamus and the
- 24:41pituitary are easily influenced by
- 24:43autophagy and can repair themselves when
- 24:45they're in the state of
- 24:47autophagy the other interesting cellular
- 24:50makeup that is highly influenced by
- 24:52autophagy are the the cells around the
- 24:55testes and the cells around the ovaries
- 24:58the those are the the cells that are
- 25:00putting out sex hormones and if you that
- 25:03whole system is malfunctioning when you
- 25:05go into a state of autophagy those cells
- 25:08will respond and become better cells and
- 25:10be better at producing these hormones
- 25:13because of you dipping in and out of the
- 25:16state of
- 25:17autophagy that really got me thinking
- 25:18because I've been looking at a lot of
- 25:21companies from an investment standpoint
- 25:22at the moment that are trying to solve
- 25:24for this macro decline in male
- 25:27testosterone you know I had a few guests
- 25:29come on this podcast and tell me that
- 25:31male testosterone has been decl
- 25:32declining year-over-year and then kind
- 25:34of paired with that we're becoming more
- 25:37and more sexless our libidos seem to be
- 25:41in Decline I've got a lot of close
- 25:43friends of mine that are taking certain
- 25:45hormonal um supplements to try and get
- 25:47their libidos back up and for the first
- 25:49time ever in on a show called Dragon's
- 25:51Den that I'm on in the UK we had someone
- 25:53come into the den for an investment that
- 25:55was producing a supplement to try and
- 25:56get our sex drive back feels like a big
- 25:59macro conversation that we're not having
- 26:01and looking at your work and the work
- 26:03around you've done about fasting and
- 26:04what you said there it seems like there
- 26:06could potentially be a link yeah between
- 26:08the two the ways we're living our life
- 26:10and what we're eating and our decline in
- 26:11testosterone and our libidos there's a
- 26:15beautiful book I don't know if you've
- 26:16read it called countdown and it's about
- 26:18the sperm counts going down in across
- 26:21the world and I actually brought her
- 26:23onto my podcast the woman who wrote the
- 26:25book and she said that there's one
- 26:27chemical that's reducing uh sperm counts
- 26:30more than any and it's phades and phades
- 26:34are in fragrances oh they're in our
- 26:37Colones they're in our perfumes they're
- 26:38in our laundry detergents they're in our
- 26:40air fresheners they also are now
- 26:43infiltrated into our water so they've
- 26:45infiltrated into they're now being
- 26:47sprayed on our Foods animals that are
- 26:49drinking the water have phalates in them
- 26:52so it's the number one toxin that's
- 26:54destroying testosterone levels and it's
- 26:57a brilliant book that she wrote you talk
- 27:00about in the reset factory your first
- 27:01book from 2016 chapter 10 you said
- 27:04something which I hadn't quite um
- 27:06appreciated you said that even the
- 27:08things we put on our skin are absorbed
- 27:11into our body um and then they go
- 27:13directly into our bloodstream and into
- 27:15our kidneys I didn't think when I read
- 27:16that it got me thinking because there's
- 27:18so many things that I sort of
- 27:20unconsciously just spray on my body
- 27:22right every day and I never look at
- 27:24what's in them because I just think it's
- 27:25on the outside and it'll wash off y but
- 27:27now you're saying that yeah your skin is
- 27:30a breathable organ so it's going to push
- 27:33toxins out and it's going to take toxins
- 27:35in so think about it if you've ever like
- 27:38eaten something that didn't react well
- 27:40with you you might get a rash that's
- 27:42your brilliant body trying to push that
- 27:44toxin out but the same thing happens
- 27:46when you put something on your skin it
- 27:48actually goes into your body so a good
- 27:51general rule is if you aren't willing to
- 27:53eat it don't put it on your skin and
- 27:56beyond that if we even look at at the
- 27:58microbiome you have bacteria on your
- 28:01skin that protect you and that bacteria
- 28:04is are actually talking to the bacteria
- 28:06in our gut there's actually a connection
- 28:08between the two bacteria so if you start
- 28:11putting things on your skin that destroy
- 28:13that microbiome you're actually going to
- 28:16ultimately have an adverse effect on the
- 28:18microbiome in your gut so what you put
- 28:21on your skin is massively important and
- 28:23then the smell we know the hippocampus
- 28:26which is the seat of all Alzheimer's and
- 28:28Dementia is also where the olfactory
- 28:31nerve innervates so when we smell
- 28:34something toxic and breathe something
- 28:36toxic in it goes straight into the
- 28:38hippocampus and starts to create
- 28:40degeneration in those neurons that are
- 28:42ultimately can lead to dementia and
- 28:44Alzheimer's toxicity is a huge human
- 28:48problem
- 28:50toxicity when you say the word toxicity
- 28:52how are you defining that you're saying
- 28:54like toxic chemicals that we introduced
- 28:56into our lives on our skin consume
- 28:58inhale have around us Bingo and that are
- 29:01in our Foods Etc yep Bingo what are what
- 29:04are some of the the most toxic chemicals
- 29:07or Foods or products that we consume
- 29:10without thinking that you think we need
- 29:12to stop consuming on a day-to-day basis
- 29:15oh here's the most the easiest one is
- 29:17Plastics BPA plastic they say that it's
- 29:20that there's it's not a matter of if you
- 29:23have plastic in your body it's a matter
- 29:24of how much so let's use it in a in
- 29:28context of something that people are
- 29:30really motivated by which is weight loss
- 29:32what's BPA plastics it's it's a it's a
- 29:34chemical within plastic that's within
- 29:37our water bottles it's on in our
- 29:40Tupperware um they actually are putting
- 29:42they're saying that they're now in the
- 29:43microfibers of our of our clothes and
- 29:46that's being washed out to this it gets
- 29:48really depressing when you start talking
- 29:49about toxins gets washed out into our
- 29:51oceans so but the for the sake of
- 29:54Simplicity it's it's you know bottles
- 29:57mostly that you see but you know we've
- 29:59got plastic containers we've got plastic
- 30:01plates we've got plastic everything and
- 30:03that is has BPA in it and that is a a a
- 30:07toxin that destroys human health and the
- 30:10biggest and most interesting thing that
- 30:12BPA Plastics do is there was a study
- 30:15around something called a Audy Mouse and
- 30:17they took this mouse that had a gene for
- 30:21obesity and they were twins they fed
- 30:23them the same food they gave them the
- 30:25same amount of exercise but one of the
- 30:28mice got introduced BPA plastic and the
- 30:32one that got the BPA plastic all of a
- 30:34sudden started to gain weight and the
- 30:36hair color started to change and they
- 30:39that was the only difference between
- 30:40these two mouse mice with the same
- 30:42genetic profile and so then when they
- 30:45detoxed the BPA plastic out the mouse
- 30:48lost weight so that was the beginning of
- 30:50us understanding a term called obesogens
- 30:53and obesogens are toxins that actually
- 30:56make us insulin resistant actually cause
- 30:58us to hold on to to more weight and
- 31:01that's just one category of
- 31:04toxins well that's terrifying it is
- 31:07terrifying to be completely you know
- 31:10from the center of my heart this is it's
- 31:13this is why we have to educate ourselves
- 31:16this is why we have to wake up we have
- 31:18to understand that we are living in the
- 31:21most toxic time in human history and it
- 31:24doesn't it's not just mental stress it's
- 31:26not just social media it's a barrage of
- 31:29all of that that is pulling us off
- 31:32course and I can tell you that I have
- 31:34sat with some of the most brilliant
- 31:35doctors who are generally so concerned
- 31:39on the direction of humanity and where
- 31:42we're going because of the abundance of
- 31:44these
- 31:46toxins as you said that I could see a
- 31:48sadness in your face where does that
- 31:51come
- 31:52from I think it's really easy when you
- 31:55hear a podcast like this and and what
- 31:58saying to reject what I'm saying because
- 32:00it's it's too
- 32:02overwhelming to
- 32:04understand what the evolutionary
- 32:07mismatch we're in right
- 32:09now
- 32:11we so many people are suffering whether
- 32:14it's physical or mental mentally and
- 32:17they don't realize that it's everything
- 32:20from the food to their shampoos to the
- 32:23plastic water bottles it's it's so vast
- 32:27and yet nobody doing anything about it
- 32:30and and that's where my heart hurts it's
- 32:33like people are suffering that don't
- 32:35need to be suffering and if they
- 32:37understood that the modern world we're
- 32:40living in has taken us so off course
- 32:43with our health and we've got to start
- 32:46to one by one figure out how to bring it
- 32:48back on
- 32:49course and you know yesterday I sat with
- 32:52um Dr Dale bredis on my and interviewed
- 32:55him on my podcast he wrote a book called
- 32:57the end of Alzheimer's and he laid out
- 33:00seven things that we need to do to stop
- 33:03Al Alzheimer's and he strongly feels
- 33:05that Alzheimer's is optional you don't
- 33:08have to you don't have to get that and
- 33:11those seven
- 33:13things are so intense like it's
- 33:18everything from detoxing to
- 33:20metabolically switching to prioritizing
- 33:22sleep to human connection to um
- 33:26understanding e you know what the best
- 33:28exercise is for you and it's easy for
- 33:32humans to look at those seven things and
- 33:34go I'm out I can't do all
- 33:36that but we if we want to exist on this
- 33:40planet we're going to have to do that
- 33:43that's the new level of Health we're in
- 33:44right now and I'm I love being the
- 33:47cheerleader I want to be the one that's
- 33:48like come on we can do it but I also
- 33:51need people to understand that where
- 33:53we're living as humans right now is a
- 33:55very very dangerous place and it's just
- 33:57in the existence of moving in and out of
- 34:00grocery stores and restaurants and you
- 34:03know and the drugstore everything has a
- 34:05toxic insult on us and it's overwhelming
- 34:08it's
- 34:10overwhelming drastic action because
- 34:13we've we're so drastically far away from
- 34:15where we're supposed to be Y where our
- 34:17ancestors were y we've built up this
- 34:19Society that's full of plastics and
- 34:21toxins and alcohol and drugs and sugar
- 34:25everywhere and I can't move in bloody
- 34:27New York city which is where we are now
- 34:29without someone offering me you know
- 34:32every block is almost every block is
- 34:35really bad food horrible but food that
- 34:37tempts the certain part of my brain that
- 34:39maybe is looking to help me stay alive
- 34:42and to survive whether it's pizza or
- 34:45sweets or whatever it might be yeah um
- 34:49so it's it is difficult and I have a
- 34:50great deal of empathy for anyone that's
- 34:53struggling yeah with it me too me too
- 34:56it's a it's a it's it's it's we've hit a
- 34:59point where the door out of poor health
- 35:01is
- 35:02multifaceted it's not just one door and
- 35:06if you're healthy and you're just like
- 35:08you know someone like you just wants to
- 35:09get in better shape then the path is a
- 35:11little bit easier MH but what do we do
- 35:14for the for the person that gets the
- 35:15cancer diagnosis what do we do for the
- 35:18woman who's suicidal in going through
- 35:21her menopause years like where are we
- 35:23helping her how are we getting to them
- 35:26and each time they walk into their
- 35:28doctor's office they're typically giving
- 35:30getting a pill and not being taught how
- 35:33to live a life that works with their
- 35:36body in this modern world that's where
- 35:38we have to get to quick one before we
- 35:40get back to this episode just give me 30
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- 36:25much back to the episode you told me
- 36:27about the first two styles of fasting
- 36:29the first one was intim fasting which is
- 36:3112 to 16 hours which is good for weight
- 36:33loss brain fog that kind of thing the
- 36:35second is autography autophagy what did
- 36:40I say autography but I like it I said
- 36:43autophagy I said autophagy we can play
- 36:45that back I definitely said autophagy
- 36:46and if I didn't we'll fix it with AI um
- 36:48autophagy fasting which is 17 to 72
- 36:50hours good for balancing sex hormones
- 36:52and preventing illness yeah number three
- 36:56we haven't spoken about gut reset fast
- 36:58yeah what's that yeah so that's based
- 37:00off uh a study that came out of MIT that
- 37:04showed 24 hours without food and your
- 37:07intestinal stem cells inside your gut
- 37:10actually start to reboot themselves now
- 37:12a stem cell is a cell that can go to
- 37:15anywhere in the body and repair itself
- 37:17but at 24 hours you get a plethora of
- 37:20them in your gut and in the gut we've
- 37:24got a damaged microbiome from everything
- 37:27that that we've just been talking about
- 37:29so what I discovered in this 24-hour
- 37:31fast is I could take women that have
- 37:32been on birth control pill for years um
- 37:36people that had been on multiple rounds
- 37:37of antibiotics people who had been
- 37:39eating horrible food and I could
- 37:42actually put them through a 24-hour fast
- 37:44once a week once every couple of weeks
- 37:46and these stem cells would come in there
- 37:48and they would start to repair and so
- 37:50now if I teach that person How to Eat
- 37:53Right their food is actually starting to
- 37:55build a better microbiome in the gut so
- 37:59that 24-hour fast became this go-to in
- 38:01my clinic where I could take all these
- 38:04gut challenges and I could start to
- 38:06unwind them just because I knew the body
- 38:09had this capability of making these
- 38:11intestinal stem cells and it was crazy
- 38:14like we got people off supplements we
- 38:15got people that were didn't weren't
- 38:18making serotonin which affects moods
- 38:20comes from the gut all of a sudden
- 38:21started to become happier people who
- 38:23hadn't had bowel movements in like three
- 38:26days all of a sudden we started to put
- 38:27in these this gut reset and it was like
- 38:30a miracle it was incredible number four
- 38:33fat burner fast so the fat burner fast
- 38:36is probably my favorite for those people
- 38:38who want to lose weight the research was
- 38:40done that 36 hours without food followed
- 38:43by 12 hours of eating and then another
- 38:4730 they actually did it over a 30-day
- 38:49period but we've been using it in our
- 38:50community just dosing it in that at 36
- 38:54hours what happens is that's enough time
- 38:56where the blood sugars come come down
- 38:59where all of a sudden the body it's so
- 39:02smart it goes okay blood sugar's not
- 39:05common we've been in this fasted State
- 39:07we've triggered autophagy we've brought
- 39:09inflammation down we've made you ketones
- 39:11we're trying to go find food but this
- 39:14extra weight it's not serving you you
- 39:16because remember you got to go find food
- 39:18so it drops weight and it's the most
- 39:21beautiful way to get a person to unstick
- 39:25any kind of weight loss resistance
- 39:28but most importantly you know where it
- 39:29dropped the most amount of weight from
- 39:32where does everybody want to lose weight
- 39:33belly yep so it is the I probably should
- 39:36have called it the fat burning belly fat
- 39:38burning yeah the belly fat yeah that
- 39:40would have banged yeah but yeah and so
- 39:42that's what they showed is that actually
- 39:44a 36-hour fast started to unstick weight
- 39:47loss and it was started with weight
- 39:49around the
- 39:50belly
- 39:52compelling number five the dopamine
- 39:55reset fast yeah so number five um I
- 39:58found some research showing that when
- 40:01people go without food for 48 hours the
- 40:04whole dopamine system will be rebooted
- 40:06so what's important to know about the
- 40:08dopamine system is it is our molecule of
- 40:12happiness it is the thing that it's
- 40:14actually a motivation molecule and it's
- 40:16a neurotransmitter that allows thoughts
- 40:19happy thoughts to go across from neuron
- 40:22to neuron and so what happens and I'm
- 40:25sure you've talked about this on your
- 40:26podcast that were so dopamine saturated
- 40:29right now but specifically people who
- 40:31are Overeaters they actually are finding
- 40:34the study I quote in the book is that
- 40:36they found that people who had food
- 40:38addiction people who had extra weight
- 40:41like obese
- 40:42situations they were not getting as much
- 40:45happiness out of their food because
- 40:47their dopamine receptor sites were
- 40:49saturated so they had to eat more food
- 40:52to get more happiness and a lot and you
- 40:55know food is a state Chang it does make
- 40:58us happy so what they found is if they
- 41:01put them into a 48 hour fast that they
- 41:03actually rebooted the whole dopamine
- 41:04system and new dopamine Reyes appeared
- 41:07so that when they brought food back in
- 41:10to the equation they actually got more
- 41:12enjoyment out of food with less food
- 41:14this kind of got me thinking about a
- 41:16conversation I was having yesterday with
- 41:17some of my team here we were talking
- 41:18about how um it almost feels like
- 41:22sometimes if I've eaten sugar I can go
- 41:23into a bit of a sugar cycle and what I
- 41:25mean by that is I'll have some sugar and
- 41:27then like a couple of hours later I'll
- 41:29have another craving for sugar and then
- 41:31a couple of hours later I'll have
- 41:32another craving for sugar but then at
- 41:33other times specifically for example
- 41:34when I did keto I was I did the keto
- 41:37diet for about eight months uh eight
- 41:38weeks bloody eight months I wish um
- 41:41eight weeks and throughout that period I
- 41:42didn't have any cravings for sugar yep I
- 41:45would we had some chocolate come into
- 41:46the studio and I walked over to the
- 41:47chocolate and I smelled it yep and I
- 41:50didn't want any of it yep it had gone
- 41:52but then when I'm in my what I call like
- 41:53the sugar cycle I'm eating sugar maybe
- 41:56you know once twice a day and I'm
- 41:58getting like the craving for it where
- 41:59which I just can't seem to resist yep
- 42:02well dopamine's the molecule more it's
- 42:05not the molecule of enough so what it
- 42:07does is when you get sugar you get this
- 42:10dopamine rush and the Brain goes woo
- 42:12love that give me more of that and so
- 42:15you con you it's it's endless you will
- 42:17never be fully satisfied it constantly
- 42:20wants you to come back for more and more
- 42:22and more so when you start to go off the
- 42:24ketogenic Energy System you're getting
- 42:26the same Foria you probably felt the
- 42:28same high the same mental Clarity but
- 42:31you've totally taken this molecule more
- 42:33out of the out of the picture it's it in
- 42:35fact dopamine will actually you know you
- 42:38you get those receptor sites that will
- 42:39be repaired but you're not getting a big
- 42:42dopamine buzz when you're in a ketogenic
- 42:44State you're getting ketones I was I was
- 42:46mulling it with my team how long I had
- 42:48to stay away from sugar to kind of get
- 42:50out of that vicious give me more cycle
- 42:53yeah my experience has been it's about
- 42:55three days three days that's what I
- 42:57thought yeah I think I said four or five
- 42:59but it's just from experience as well if
- 43:01I haven't had sugar for 3 or four days I
- 43:04mean like a like a chocolate but
- 43:05something significant in terms of sugar
- 43:07then after three or four days the
- 43:08craving for it seems to to vanish yeah
- 43:11yeah it's not it's not if you think
- 43:13about that it's not hard if you're
- 43:14trying to overcome a sugar addiction
- 43:17yeah like just bear it for three days
- 43:20and then that dopamine stops barking at
- 43:22you and then if you attack fasting onto
- 43:25it now you're getting ketones and so
- 43:28you're not needing that as much ketones
- 43:30kill hunger and they make you so
- 43:32mentally mentally clear they give you
- 43:34this euphoric feeling so you don't have
- 43:36that urge to go for the for the sugar
- 43:38and the ketones come from fasting which
- 43:40is when your body switches metabolic
- 43:42State go yeah the last and final fasting
- 43:45style immune reset fast yeah so immune
- 43:49reset was built off of Dr vter Longo's
- 43:51work and he did a study on people who
- 43:55had cancer and were going through ch
- 43:57therapy and one of the challenges we
- 43:59know about chemotherapy is that it wipes
- 44:01out the whole immune system and so he
- 44:03wanted to see well what if I put
- 44:05somebody in a fasted State as they went
- 44:07through chemotherapy would there be a
- 44:09difference and what he found is after
- 44:11three days of fasting the white blood
- 44:13cells in our system actually reboot
- 44:16themselves so what they do is all old
- 44:18white blood cells are are sloughed away
- 44:21and new white blood cells emerge so
- 44:23people were able to come out of that
- 44:26chemo therapy experience and have a
- 44:29stronger immune system as opposed to
- 44:30what we were seeing was that it was
- 44:32wiping the immune system out so that
- 44:35launched the whole three-day water fast
- 44:37sort of craze at least here in America
- 44:40we're seeing a lot of people that are
- 44:42just going after three-day water fast to
- 44:45Prime their immune system but you also
- 44:48also at three days get stem cells full
- 44:50systemic stem cells so all of a sudden
- 44:53your body's got in surging with stem
- 44:55cells going to all parts of the body
- 44:57repairing it the great example I always
- 44:59use on this one was I had an Achilles
- 45:02tendon injury and nothing was nothing
- 45:05was helping it so I threw a 5-day water
- 45:07fast at it on the fourth day I felt this
- 45:11buzz in my achilles tendon I was like oh
- 45:13wonder what that is and it stayed all
- 45:17the way through I went five full days
- 45:19and um about the fifth and sixth day so
- 45:22sixth day I was entering food back in
- 45:25all the pain completely went away and it
- 45:27never came back I tried everything I
- 45:30tried everything and that was the only
- 45:31thing that repaired
- 45:33it it does make again evolutionary sense
- 45:36that if our body senses we're injured
- 45:40because we're not eating or you know
- 45:41some other signal that we
- 45:44are on a course to not survive to put it
- 45:48nicely it does make sense that it might
- 45:51set about to repair whatever needs to be
- 45:52repaired you're getting it you know
- 45:54because like if I was a wounded human
- 45:56back in on the savanas of I don't know
- 45:58Africa or wherever we came from um and
- 46:01I'm laid there and I'm not eating my
- 46:04body should probably go okay Steve might
- 46:06need something fixed so he can get back
- 46:08to yeah hunting so you're getting it so
- 46:13survival that is the number one priority
- 46:17of the body so when you go without food
- 46:20you amplify every resource it has to
- 46:23keep you alive and if repairing my
- 46:26Achilles means I can now go hunt for
- 46:28food it's going to do that it's going to
- 46:30make me stronger and I in the book I I
- 46:33stumbled when I was writing the book I
- 46:35stumbled upon a really cool hypothesis
- 46:38that's called the Thrifty Gene
- 46:39hypothesis and it said that what it's a
- 46:43theory obviously it's a hypothesis it's
- 46:45a theory that the people the humans that
- 46:48evolved out of the Primal days had a
- 46:51very specific genotype and this genotype
- 46:54allowed us to metabolically flex and and
- 46:57be stronger in a fasted State because we
- 47:00had to survive and the people that
- 47:03didn't make it from that time period
- 47:05didn't have that Gene but think about
- 47:07this for this moment so they think we
- 47:10all have this Gene inside of us right
- 47:12now this Thrifty Gene where we can go
- 47:15long periods without food and we can
- 47:17survive so what happens when we're
- 47:20eating all day what happens when we're
- 47:22ignoring and we're not actually
- 47:24activating that genetic profile
- 47:27so what they are now believing is that
- 47:29diabetes metabolic syndrome all of that
- 47:31is largely happening because we are
- 47:34going against the G the genetic profile
- 47:36that we are now seeing in humans we're
- 47:38like on the opposite end of the spectrum
- 47:41we're overloading our bodies
- 47:43yeah which is meaning that the survival
- 47:47Gene you referen there is not being
- 47:48activated to help us that's right that's
- 47:51right interesting what about what about
- 47:54coffee you know if I'm going to fast
- 47:56asked for I know people are so addicted
- 47:58to coffee so I feel like I have to ask a
- 48:00question as their representative if I'm
- 48:02going to fast do any of these six fasts
- 48:03that you just mentioned does coffee
- 48:05break that fast yeah it does break it no
- 48:08well it depends okay so this is this I'm
- 48:10just I yes or
- 48:11no um I can't give you a yes or no on it
- 48:15I'm going to give you most likely okay
- 48:17no let me give you most likely it's okay
- 48:21okay most likely it's okay yes there's
- 48:23not a high degree of certainty and
- 48:25conviction there no let me let me
- 48:27explain myself okay so when you drink a
- 48:30cup of coffee it shouldn't spike your
- 48:31blood sugar it shouldn't should not it
- 48:34doesn't so if it does it shouldn't so if
- 48:38you have black coffee and your blood
- 48:39sugar doesn't Spike and you're you're
- 48:41trying to metabolically switch over into
- 48:43your fasting window you're good you're
- 48:46golden drink that black coffee okay okay
- 48:48now I'm gonna add some sugar to it okay
- 48:52now now you're not switch now you've
- 48:54pulled you've pulled yourself out of
- 48:55fasted State uh okay so no sugar just a
- 48:58plain coffee with no milk or sugar in it
- 49:01is is most likely going to keep you in a
- 49:03fasted State most likely uh well I've
- 49:06seen a few occasions where it didn't
- 49:08okay um this is why we have people test
- 49:10their blood sugar like it it it's Unique
- 49:12to you so you can test your blood sugar
- 49:15have the cup of coffee half an hour
- 49:17later check your blood sugar again those
- 49:19numbers should be equal okay so for most
- 49:21people coffee should be fine when
- 49:22they're fasting but there's a couple of
- 49:24an anomalies who their blood sugar does
- 49:26Spike yes um which means that they're
- 49:29not going to switch over to the fasted
- 49:31State yes yes exactly and you know
- 49:34coffee mate
- 49:36creamers um those can be a little more
- 49:39problematic um but some people put full
- 49:42fat cream in there with no sugar um some
- 49:45people put MCT oil in there you know the
- 49:48buttered coffee became very very common
- 49:50and that was because of the fasting
- 49:51movement so the reason they did that was
- 49:55because when you put a fat in coffee you
- 49:57stabilized your blood sugar and so you
- 50:00were able to stay in the fasted State
- 50:02and switch over I had glucose God this
- 50:04on the podcast who um Jesse she talks a
- 50:07lot about glucose spikes it was the
- 50:09first time my eyes were really open to
- 50:10the consequence of living a life where
- 50:12your glucose levels are spiking and
- 50:14crashing and spiking and crashing and
- 50:15I've invested in this company called Zoe
- 50:17where they give you a glucose monitor
- 50:19which I attached to my arm for 14 days
- 50:20as part of the initial test and then
- 50:22they give me this big sort of nutrition
- 50:23plan and profile and um that was the
- 50:25first time I got to see you know I was
- 50:27in America at the time I was I was in LA
- 50:28for a couple of months and I in La I
- 50:31mean I pulled up at a gas station and I
- 50:34was it's funny I was walking through
- 50:35this gas station and everything in there
- 50:37was sugar it's CU cuz now I was looking
- 50:40right now I had my eyes open cuz I'm
- 50:41wearing this bloody monitor so I'm about
- 50:43to see the impact within minutes that it
- 50:45has on my body and I was just looking
- 50:46around thinking oh my God the only thing
- 50:49that I can see in this whole store that
- 50:51I can eat without spiking my glucose is
- 50:54water so is it a monitor where you can
- 50:56see it you can scan it yeah yeah so so
- 50:59they've got two Game Changer yeah so
- 51:00they've got two one of them you scan the
- 51:02new one they've got it's automatic by
- 51:04Bluetooth so it just keeps constantly
- 51:06updating on your phone I honestly think
- 51:10we could dramatically change the health
- 51:13of the world if everybody put one of
- 51:15those on amen amen because then what you
- 51:19would do is you would just go cuz you
- 51:20know this is like coffee like you should
- 51:22it should be so simple for me just to
- 51:24say yes drink your coffee you're fine
- 51:26but your microbiome in your gut is going
- 51:29to determine what it does with whatever
- 51:31hits that so it's going to determine
- 51:32your blood sugar levels your microbiome
- 51:35my microbiome completely different so
- 51:37food no longer is a one-size fits all
- 51:40there's an individual approach so you
- 51:42have to know what your blood sugar is
- 51:43doing yeah you know like when I eat
- 51:45believe it or not when I eat a grass-fed
- 51:47steak my blood sugar goes down it's
- 51:50amazing wow so whereas other people eat
- 51:54a steak and their blood sugar goes Super
- 51:56high and so then again you go to a
- 52:00thread of this conversation which is how
- 52:02do we help Humanity yeah and Humanity
- 52:05wants the one size fits all I can't give
- 52:08you that yeah you're gonna have to learn
- 52:10your own you got to learn you and
- 52:13something like that teaches you you but
- 52:16you're going to have to become very
- 52:17curious about you like you are and
- 52:21what's really fun to me when you put one
- 52:22of those things on I it's my favorite
- 52:24thing to do with patience is I say just
- 52:27eat normal just eat everything yeah yeah
- 52:28yeah and then and then every day I have
- 52:30them send me their readings and we just
- 52:32talk it through I I just did this with a
- 52:35beautiful patient that I've been working
- 52:36with who has a long history of eating
- 52:39disorders and she was counting calories
- 52:42and um really wanted the control of
- 52:45being able to keep her weight where she
- 52:47was where where it needed to be and I
- 52:50said okay you can count calories if you
- 52:51want but I just want you to stick this
- 52:53monitor on and let's just eat and let's
- 52:55see what you're doing and she was vegan
- 52:56and and this isn't a this isn't an
- 52:59anti-vegan conversation but her spikes
- 53:01were up and down and up and down like
- 53:03there was like eight of them a day and
- 53:05her moods followed those spikes too and
- 53:08so then we started to go okay well let's
- 53:10add a protein here could we add fat here
- 53:12could we add some more fiber here and
- 53:14she got to watch for herself and within
- 53:17four weeks she was free of any food
- 53:20control and she was off teaching
- 53:22everybody else it was so beautiful to
- 53:24watch that calorie counting point
- 53:27though there's a there's a big school of
- 53:29thought that in order to lose weight and
- 53:31be healthy all you've got to do is count
- 53:32those calories yeah you know there's
- 53:35something called a set point have you
- 53:37heard about the set point yeah which is
- 53:38the amount of calories that I need to
- 53:39consume in order to hit my that's right
- 53:42so we all have a set point if you're
- 53:43going to go down the calorie path you H
- 53:47you have to understand you have a set
- 53:48point and the set point is there's a mo
- 53:50how much calories coming in and how much
- 53:52calories going out what's the Delta of
- 53:55that and that will keep you at whatever
- 53:57weight you want to be so let's use an
- 53:59example you eat 1,500 calories a day you
- 54:03exercise 500 you have a Delta of a
- 54:05thousand so if you want to keep your
- 54:08weight where it's at you always have to
- 54:10do a th000 calories every single day
- 54:13yeah okay well what happens on the day
- 54:15you decide not to work out so now you
- 54:17have 500 extra calories that your body's
- 54:19not used to and so what does it do with
- 54:21those calories stores it so then you all
- 54:25of a sudden start you're gaining weight
- 54:27and you don't really understand why so
- 54:28you're like well let me count I need to
- 54:29restrict calories yeah so then you start
- 54:32eating maybe I mean I have less yeah and
- 54:35then you bring the set point down well
- 54:37that's your new that's your new set
- 54:38point you're going to have to stay at
- 54:40that set point now if you don't ever
- 54:41want to gain another
- 54:44pound you see the game oh okay so my set
- 54:47point is moving the crafty it moves
- 54:49because as you restrict and you if as
- 54:52food restriction goes down and energy
- 54:54output goes up your set point goes down
- 54:57and now you're like I feel great but you
- 54:59can't leave from that set point you're
- 55:01going to always have to make sure that
- 55:02that set point is 1,000 calories or 800
- 55:05calories so I was told I mean this is
- 55:07the school of thought that I have to
- 55:09have for me as a male that has my weight
- 55:122,000 calories a day and then if I'm
- 55:15under 2,000 calories a day then I'll
- 55:16lose weight that's what I was told yeah
- 55:19so you go now you go to 1500 calories
- 55:21you drop weight yeah to lose the weight
- 55:23yep you go back up to 2,000 and for most
- 55:26people they start to gain weight again
- 55:28ah because my my set point has moved so
- 55:30now it's 1,500 yeah to maintain my
- 55:33weight yeah which is why if you think
- 55:35about it have we have we ever seen a
- 55:37calorie restriction diet work long term
- 55:40no right I haven't longterm being the
- 55:43key word there yeah it's short term it
- 55:46it works great but this is why I'm such
- 55:48a fan of metabolic switching how about
- 55:50we watch blood sugar we put a monitor
- 55:52like you're talking let's put a monitor
- 55:53on so that you keep your blood sugar
- 55:55spikes minimal it's like what I did with
- 55:57this woman is I was like let's can we
- 55:59have two two spikes in a day not eight
- 56:02and we just keep your blood sugar at a
- 56:04at a at a low level so that when you're
- 56:06not eating you can switch over and now
- 56:08you can burn fat in the fat burning
- 56:10Energy System so metabolic switching is
- 56:14where you're keeping your blood sugar at
- 56:15a stable place it's not got all these
- 56:18Spikes all over the place so that when
- 56:20it starts to go down the body is going
- 56:21to want to switch over and it can start
- 56:23to burn fat in the in and use that other
- 56:25energy system what do you think our
- 56:28relationship should be with
- 56:31sugar well you know there's only 12% of
- 56:34Americans that are metabolically
- 56:37healthy is that means that they have the
- 56:41right blood pressure the right
- 56:43cholesterol that their hemoglobin A1c
- 56:46their insulin all those metabolic
- 56:48markers are in Balance only
- 56:5112% of Americans have that
- 56:54right that is a huge problem and that is
- 56:58largely because we're addicted to
- 57:00Sugar so what's the consequence of poor
- 57:03metabolic health obesity cancer heart
- 57:07disease mental health challenges I mean
- 57:09you name it every chronic disease on the
- 57:12planet at the root has a metabolic
- 57:16thread now I hate to to bring back a a a
- 57:20a really traumatic concept uh topic but
- 57:24during covid when we looked at the
- 57:27people that fell prey to covid this is
- 57:30no no disrespect they were metabolically
- 57:35unhealthy and the people that had less
- 57:37covid symptoms were the ones that were
- 57:40more metabolically healthy in general so
- 57:43and largely because the virus could grow
- 57:46could really replicate if you had a lot
- 57:48of glucose in your system so the
- 57:51consequence is huge and the health care
- 57:54Consequence the amount of money we pay
- 57:55trying to help everybody put their
- 57:57health back together because they're
- 57:58metabolically unhealthy if we just
- 58:01started with metabolic Health we would
- 58:02change everything and metabolic Health
- 58:04people think of metabolic Health often
- 58:06as being you know I'm in good
- 58:11superficial
- 58:12shape I'd like to think um but that's
- 58:15not metabolic Health you could be I'm
- 58:17guessing you can be metabolically
- 58:19unhealthy but also have abs oh oh yeah
- 58:23you could this woman I was telling you
- 58:25about with all the the spikes she was
- 58:27she's actually a a model and an actress
- 58:30oh wow that that is beautiful and we had
- 58:33to go back in and really work with
- 58:35getting her metabolically healthy so
- 58:37yeah you we call it skinny fat you look
- 58:40you look skinny on the outside but
- 58:42you're dealing with excess sugar on the
- 58:45inside that is putting fat around your
- 58:47liver putting fat in other areas I think
- 58:50a lot of people can relate to that
- 58:51skinny fat concept yeah so it's it's a
- 58:54major major issue and and you know we
- 58:56can look at different things like
- 58:58hemoglobin A1c it's a marker in the
- 59:01blood everybody gets it tested every
- 59:03year when they go to their doctor it
- 59:04should be under five if it's not under
- 59:07five what's happening is all that extra
- 59:09sugar is is going around your red blood
- 59:12cells and your red blood cells carry
- 59:14oxygen to your body so they're gummed up
- 59:16with sugar so they can't deliver things
- 59:18oxygen to the brain to your eyes to your
- 59:21muscle so you're not getting oxygenated
- 59:23because of the sugar just gumming up
- 59:25these blood
- 59:27cells in chapter one of your book you
- 59:30talk about this um metabolic Health
- 59:32crisis in great detail you share some
- 59:33stats which I pulled out which I I
- 59:36thought were terrifying it's page page
- 59:37four of your book you say according to
- 59:40the CDC 41% of women and TW 21 and older
- 59:44are obese 45% have high blood pressure
- 59:48out of two one out of two will develop
- 59:50cancer in their lifetimes one out of
- 59:52five will develop Alzheimer's one out of
- 59:54nine will get typed two diabetes one out
- 59:57of eight will develop a thyroid problem
- 1:00:00and 80% of all autoimmune conditions
- 1:00:04occur in
- 1:00:06women why is that that last one 80% of
- 1:00:09all autoimmune conditions occur in women
- 1:00:12yeah so autoimmunity is a really
- 1:00:14interesting one um and um if you look at
- 1:00:18what an autoimmune condition is it's the
- 1:00:20body attacking
- 1:00:22itself and so when we look at where to
- 1:00:26go we're back of the toxins Hashimoto
- 1:00:28why is the body attacking the thyroid
- 1:00:30there's something there that needs to
- 1:00:32get out so it's usually a toxic issue so
- 1:00:35the body's attacking the the thyroid
- 1:00:37when we look at ra and Joints there's
- 1:00:39toxins in there body's attacking that so
- 1:00:42it's happening more to women largely
- 1:00:45because well this is this this could go
- 1:00:48dark real fast but largely because we
- 1:00:51have so many influences that are
- 1:00:54affecting our our horm hormones so the
- 1:00:56best way I can explain this is something
- 1:00:58I call the hormonal hierarchy where our
- 1:01:01sex hormones are going to be completely
- 1:01:04thrown off by insulin so when you get
- 1:01:07insulin resistant your sex hormones are
- 1:01:09off and insulin is going to be so
- 1:01:13impacted by cortisol so when you're
- 1:01:15stressed all the time you're going to be
- 1:01:16insulin resistant and when you're
- 1:01:18insulin insulin resistant you're going
- 1:01:20to have trouble balancing estrogen
- 1:01:21progesterone and testosterone but at the
- 1:01:24top of the hierarchy is oxy toin and
- 1:01:27oxytocin is that we're getting oxytocin
- 1:01:30right now just from connecting with each
- 1:01:32other and it'll calm start to calm
- 1:01:34cortisol down and then when it calms
- 1:01:36cortisol down you can be more insulin
- 1:01:37sensitive and when you can be more
- 1:01:38insulin sensitive now your sex hormones
- 1:01:40can can balance better so we need that
- 1:01:43hierarchy as as women to be in balance
- 1:01:46in order for our bodies to be in Balance
- 1:01:50but what do we have women doing right
- 1:01:51now we have poor diet lots of stress uh
- 1:01:55and our our sex hormones are way off
- 1:01:58which sugar and sugar you're going after
- 1:02:00the sugar yeah so women are are are
- 1:02:04perishing within this modern world more
- 1:02:07than
- 1:02:08men so we've got to help a woman bring
- 1:02:11back more insulin sensitiv sensitivity
- 1:02:14we got to get her doing better uh Stress
- 1:02:16Management and when we do that now the
- 1:02:19immune system can regulate now the
- 1:02:21immune system can calm down and stop
- 1:02:23being so hyperactive attacking all the
- 1:02:25toxins that are in the body so it's very
- 1:02:28complex does that imply that women and
- 1:02:30men have a different relationship with
- 1:02:31stress oh yeah yeah yeah for sure we're
- 1:02:36not I okay so I'm gonna I'm gonna be as
- 1:02:39bold as to say this and I know all my my
- 1:02:42feminist women out there are not going
- 1:02:44to like this and I I was raised by a
- 1:02:47strong woman I am a strong woman I've
- 1:02:49raised another strong woman and I have
- 1:02:52to tell you that we are not meant to
- 1:02:54handle the stress loads as well as men
- 1:02:57and that's largely because of two
- 1:03:00hormones so estrogen makes us very out
- 1:03:03outward makes us very much an extrovert
- 1:03:06and we can handle a lot of stress when
- 1:03:08when estrogen is present in our body but
- 1:03:12progesterone she can't handle stress at
- 1:03:14all so progesterone will start to
- 1:03:18diminish a as cortisol goes up I always
- 1:03:20say when when cortisol goes High
- 1:03:22progesterone becomes shy so now we're I
- 1:03:26the number of women since fast like a
- 1:03:28girl came out that I have heard from the
- 1:03:3020 and 30 year olds that have no cycle
- 1:03:34none that is because they're insulin
- 1:03:36resistant they're more stressed
- 1:03:38progesterone's not making her appearance
- 1:03:40so there's no shed of the uterine lining
- 1:03:42that is absolutely a stress issue and
- 1:03:45not having a period for a woman is a
- 1:03:47major problem because that's how we
- 1:03:49detox that's how we get these hormones
- 1:03:51out of us so if you're not having a
- 1:03:53cycle you're not getting rid of estrogen
- 1:03:55you're not getting rid of so many toxins
- 1:03:57and it's just staying inside of
- 1:03:59you that's that's a major
- 1:04:06problem controversial idea but it rings
- 1:04:09true for a lot of people yeah and I know
- 1:04:11this because I've had women very close
- 1:04:13to me in my life talk to me about this
- 1:04:15exact thing and
- 1:04:17um specifically not having their
- 1:04:20menstrual cycle and
- 1:04:22then focusing on the stresses in their
- 1:04:25life and then comes back the menstrual
- 1:04:27cycle coming back um people very very
- 1:04:29close to me in fact that I've I've
- 1:04:32struggled with because of this exact
- 1:04:34challenge
- 1:04:35yeah it is a controversial idea though
- 1:04:38isn't it it's a it's slightly
- 1:04:40problematic um as an idea is there any
- 1:04:44scientific basis for that idea well we
- 1:04:47know based off science that when
- 1:04:49cortisol goes up progesterone goes down
- 1:04:51cortisol is the stress hormone yeah so
- 1:04:53when you're under stress cortisol goes
- 1:04:55up
- 1:04:56and so if you're let's say it's the week
- 1:04:58before your period That's when you're
- 1:04:59supposed to have the most amount of
- 1:05:01progesterone if it doesn't matter if
- 1:05:03you're trying to run a marathon doesn't
- 1:05:04matter if you have a work deadline
- 1:05:06doesn't matter if you're skiing on sleep
- 1:05:08as long as cortisol is going up
- 1:05:10progesterone is not going to make her
- 1:05:11appearance and if she doesn't make her
- 1:05:12appearance then the uterine lining won't
- 1:05:14shed that's that's been proven over and
- 1:05:17over every hormone expert would agree
- 1:05:19multiple studies but women don't realize
- 1:05:22that so we if there's ever a time to
- 1:05:26mind your stress it's the week before
- 1:05:28your period which is why you don't fast
- 1:05:30the week before your period because
- 1:05:31that's a that's a bit of a stressor it's
- 1:05:34why you shouldn't train for you know a
- 1:05:36big Spartan Race or a crossfitting event
- 1:05:39or a run a marathon you should be doing
- 1:05:41more yoga and Recovery the week before
- 1:05:43your period this is why we should
- 1:05:46prioritize sleep the week before our
- 1:05:47periods because that we don't want
- 1:05:49cortisol up so in a in an interesting
- 1:05:52world this is sort of the vision I have
- 1:05:54for women right now
- 1:05:56is what if there is this moment where
- 1:05:58the week before our period we have the
- 1:06:02the capability of maybe not working as
- 1:06:04hard they're like Spain they're giving a
- 1:06:06three-day menstrual leave to
- 1:06:09women they with no questions asked
- 1:06:12before before the period or well it's no
- 1:06:15questions asked they anticipated it that
- 1:06:17women would use it the first three days
- 1:06:19of her period but a woman can use it any
- 1:06:22time I say use it the three days before
- 1:06:24your cycle is supposed to come
- 1:06:28interesting Have you shared this idea
- 1:06:31before publicly uh I've on several
- 1:06:33podcasts I've talked about it I had a
- 1:06:35great interview with Kate northrip um on
- 1:06:38my podcast and she's an entrepreneur and
- 1:06:42she actually Maps her whole business
- 1:06:44cycle around her menstrual cycle and so
- 1:06:47we had a beautiful conversation about
- 1:06:49this and she said that she doesn't do as
- 1:06:52many Zoom calls she tells her team that
- 1:06:54she's going to take get get off uh work
- 1:06:57a little bit earlier on those days she
- 1:06:59slows everything down her workload goes
- 1:07:01dramatically down and she said what
- 1:07:03ended up happening is that when her
- 1:07:05period started her productivity went up
- 1:07:08so see what when estrogen comes in on on
- 1:07:11starting day one day two of our
- 1:07:13menstrual cycles estrogen makes us
- 1:07:15really mentally clear makes us very
- 1:07:18verbal estrogen's an incredible hormone
- 1:07:20for
- 1:07:21productivity but if you aren't minding
- 1:07:24that back half of your cycle and you're
- 1:07:26not slowing down
- 1:07:28then then you're coming into your period
- 1:07:30and you're having you hear so many women
- 1:07:31who are like I'm cramping I'm bleeding a
- 1:07:34lot it's really painful that's because
- 1:07:36you didn't mind the back half of your
- 1:07:38cycle and what's the sort of
- 1:07:39evolutionary basis for all of this why
- 1:07:41is the body doing this why is the body
- 1:07:44um not going to give us our periods I
- 1:07:46mean listen I don't have a period but um
- 1:07:48well I have a version of it right I'm
- 1:07:49sure men have some kind of you guys you
- 1:07:51guys have a you work off a 24-hour cycle
- 1:07:54okay so every 15 minutes you get
- 1:07:56testosterone okay you know we joke about
- 1:07:59that right what do you say you J behind
- 1:08:01our
- 1:08:02backs kind of what' you say the joke is
- 1:08:05like if you don't like what your
- 1:08:06husband's saying just ask him in 15
- 1:08:08minutes he might say something different
- 1:08:09oh that's what you've been say oh just
- 1:08:11letting you in on what might be going on
- 1:08:13behind the scenes okay so what is the
- 1:08:17evolutionary basis for why why that is
- 1:08:21true so think about yeah let's go back
- 1:08:24to our Primal days so you know
- 1:08:27testosterone is meant to have you go out
- 1:08:30and Hunt it's some very motivating it's
- 1:08:33you get it every 15 minutes so you know
- 1:08:35God this sounds as I'm saying it sounds
- 1:08:36so sexist but when we look at the body
- 1:08:39this is actually how we're built so you
- 1:08:42were your body was driven to go hunt and
- 1:08:46go find and Go Achieve that's the number
- 1:08:48one hormone that it works off of for the
- 1:08:52women what our we are meant to be more
- 1:08:55outgoing before ovulation okay why is
- 1:08:58that oh we need to connect we need to
- 1:09:02start to feel that that mental Clarity
- 1:09:05you know estrogen makes your hair really
- 1:09:07like full and your skin really glow and
- 1:09:10it starts to make us more beautiful all
- 1:09:12leading up to to ovulation once
- 1:09:15ovulation hits now we have estrogen at
- 1:09:17our Peak we have a little bit of
- 1:09:19testosterone and we have a little bit of
- 1:09:21progesterone okay well why is that
- 1:09:24because now we our libidos up we're
- 1:09:26motivated to reproduce we're looking
- 1:09:29beautiful because we have so much
- 1:09:31estrogen going through our body we're
- 1:09:33verbal we can connect and we have
- 1:09:35progesterone to keep us calm so we're
- 1:09:37supposed to reproduce when ovulation
- 1:09:40hits and then the back half technically
- 1:09:44we would be have a fertilized egg and we
- 1:09:46would be winding
- 1:09:48down and if we didn't get a fertilized
- 1:09:50egg then we're supposed to relax so we
- 1:09:52can go back and do the extroverted piece
- 1:09:54of our elves in the front half of our
- 1:09:57cycle so it's all based off of
- 1:09:59reproduction so I need some advice then
- 1:10:02because I'm in a relationship and I want
- 1:10:03to understand I guess this goes both
- 1:10:05ways I want my girlfriend to understand
- 1:10:07how hormones are influencing my behavior
- 1:10:10and I want to know how hormones are
- 1:10:11influencing her behavior yeah what
- 1:10:13advice have you got for me well the
- 1:10:15first is do you know her
- 1:10:20cycle moving on we're going to talk
- 1:10:22about sugar again no no this is too good
- 1:10:26so sugar it's really bad isn't it who's
- 1:10:28to blame no seriously tell me about your
- 1:10:32childhood know get to know her cycle I'm
- 1:10:35GNA give you I'm Gonna Give You gold now
- 1:10:38let me give you gold okay so day one of
- 1:10:42her cycle day one to day 10 she's
- 1:10:44building estrogen first couple of days
- 1:10:45of her cycle just let her be like she
- 1:10:48you know that she's transitioning out of
- 1:10:50the back half of her cycle she might be
- 1:10:52having some heavier bleeding you know
- 1:10:54she's moving into that extroverted place
- 1:10:56so the first two days give her some
- 1:10:58space now day three estrogen's starting
- 1:11:01to to build so you're going to notice
- 1:11:03she's more verbal she's going to be more
- 1:11:05present she might feel more outgoing
- 1:11:07she's going to feel like she wants to
- 1:11:08connect with you that's going to go all
- 1:11:11the way through ovulation like in the
- 1:11:14middle of ovulation which is about day
- 1:11:1512 day 13 where all of a sudden
- 1:11:18estrogens at its peak if you have any
- 1:11:21conflict you want to resolve with her do
- 1:11:23it between like day two and day 12 of
- 1:11:26her cycle she's going to be so ready to
- 1:11:29handle any conflict with you between let
- 1:11:32me write that
- 1:11:33down day day two and day 12 day two like
- 1:11:36literally my battles I had a I had a dad
- 1:11:39come to me and tell me that he was
- 1:11:41struggling to understand his teenage
- 1:11:42daughter and I said well do you know her
- 1:11:45cycle and he was like no I don't I said
- 1:11:48well you would never ever bring a
- 1:11:50conflict to her on day 18 or 19 of her
- 1:11:53cycle bring it to her on day 10 10 and
- 1:11:56now she's going to talk to you I'm going
- 1:11:58to say something which is really
- 1:11:59embarrassing here I know nothing about
- 1:12:01menstrual cycles and no point in my life
- 1:12:04did anybody teach me about menstrual
- 1:12:06cycles the only Insight I have in my
- 1:12:08life to what a menstrual cycle is is
- 1:12:11overhearing my sister when I was younger
- 1:12:14talking about it yeah and when I say
- 1:12:16overhearing I mean maybe a sentence and
- 1:12:18then maybe my girlfriend once in a while
- 1:12:20she'll say oh I'm coming into my cycle
- 1:12:22or whatever she'll say I'm on my period
- 1:12:23that's for most men that's in fact the
- 1:12:25extent of the education we have about
- 1:12:27the female
- 1:12:28reproductive um menal menstrual cycles y
- 1:12:32so talk to me like I'm an idiot about
- 1:12:33the menstrual cycle yeah how long is it
- 1:12:37oh I love this and do you know that most
- 1:12:39women don't know oh really so I mean
- 1:12:41most women are ignorant to their own
- 1:12:42Cycles so it's 28 days anywhere from 28
- 1:12:45days to 32 every woman has a different
- 1:12:47length okay and what day does the period
- 1:12:49come on day one so day one is the first
- 1:12:51day she bleeds okay then how long that
- 1:12:53lost for what seven days uh it
- 1:12:55everyone's different anywhere from three
- 1:12:57to seven days okay so day you said day
- 1:13:01between day two and 12 is when to pick
- 1:13:03my battles yes so day two you're going
- 1:13:05to start to see her being emerge a
- 1:13:07little more gregarious she may be a
- 1:13:09little more outgoing so I mean as she
- 1:13:12get closer to day 12 you want to go
- 1:13:14party with her you want to take her out
- 1:13:15make her feel good like that's the time
- 1:13:18to whine and dine her okay cool we'll
- 1:13:20put all the dates then and the fights
- 1:13:21and then after day 12 what am I doing
- 1:13:23then after day well okay so day 12 is
- 1:13:27right when she's ovulating so you're GNA
- 1:13:29have to choose your battle there but
- 1:13:31ovulation occurs for most women between
- 1:13:33day 10 and day 15 there's a small little
- 1:13:36five-day window there that's if this is
- 1:13:39a when once I figured this out I was
- 1:13:41like why don't why don't men know this
- 1:13:43um that's when she's going to be her
- 1:13:44libido is going to be the highest okay
- 1:13:46so we're having sex one day yes so if
- 1:13:48you want to have sex with her I'm just
- 1:13:49writing this down have sex with her
- 1:13:51around that time around that time if
- 1:13:53she's willing yeah she's going to be
- 1:13:54more motivated cuz she has testosterone
- 1:13:56she's going to feel more like it okay
- 1:13:58then after she finishes ovulating off
- 1:13:59day 15 yeah so then there's going to be
- 1:14:01a crash of hormones you might see a
- 1:14:02change in her personality she might feel
- 1:14:04a little low go stay in a
- 1:14:07hotel but you could ask you know like if
- 1:14:10she's having a bummer day like or a low
- 1:14:12day ask her do you know what day your
- 1:14:14cycle are you on be really nice be
- 1:14:16really nice really nice and then here's
- 1:14:18the gold here's gold this is so good
- 1:14:20you're going to have to report back to
- 1:14:21me how this works uh when around day 17
- 1:14:24or 18 Gest drones coming in this is
- 1:14:27where you got to give her foot rubs you
- 1:14:29got to be extra special and cater her
- 1:14:32like like she's the queen that she
- 1:14:33deserves to be okay so all my
- 1:14:35compliments that's where I pull out the
- 1:14:37notepad but what you need to know is
- 1:14:39she's probably going to be like if
- 1:14:41you're like oh you look so beautiful
- 1:14:42today she might at that time be like no
- 1:14:45I feel horrible I'm bloated I'm I don't
- 1:14:48feel beautiful but and I should disagree
- 1:14:50I should say no you no you you're no you
- 1:14:52don't you look amazing okay cool and you
- 1:14:54do that till she bleeds and you take
- 1:14:57amazing care of her in the back the week
- 1:14:58before her period and you will get kudos
- 1:15:00like you you can't even imagine and then
- 1:15:03start it all over again and then start
- 1:15:04it all over again got you yeah I mean
- 1:15:06just once you understand our patterns
- 1:15:09and then it also helps you understand
- 1:15:10that we're going to be more outgoing in
- 1:15:12the front half of our cycle we're going
- 1:15:13to be more introverted in the back half
- 1:15:15what about men you guys every 15 minutes
- 1:15:19you you're pretty you're pretty black
- 1:15:21and white really yeah you're pretty
- 1:15:23straightforward
- 1:15:25so if she was asking you the same
- 1:15:26question about me would you say anything
- 1:15:27to her about my hormone Cycles at all
- 1:15:29you you just say what it it really
- 1:15:31depends on the issue at hand so if it's
- 1:15:34a a a mismatch of libido then the best
- 1:15:38time to have sex with a woman is during
- 1:15:41ovulation okay which because she has the
- 1:15:42most amount of testosterone day 10 to 15
- 1:15:44of her CLE it would be really handy
- 1:15:46wouldn't it just to have a little
- 1:15:48menstrual cycle chart on the wall at
- 1:15:50home I know that sounds a bit strange
- 1:15:52but just so I know what's going on
- 1:15:54inside bud I the first time I discovered
- 1:15:57this I started using an app called The
- 1:15:59Clue app yeah and it shows you in a
- 1:16:02circle it kind of shows a little cloud
- 1:16:03and then it shows you where PMs Clicks
- 1:16:05in and it actually has a button that you
- 1:16:08can share it with people in your life
- 1:16:11and I thought not only does my husband
- 1:16:13need this but my staff needs this they
- 1:16:15need to understand where I'm going and
- 1:16:18what if all the women on my on my team
- 1:16:19actually shared it with each other and
- 1:16:21we could see where each other was at in
- 1:16:24the menstrual cycle we would understand
- 1:16:26why a woman's moods can be so up and
- 1:16:28down it's really you know it because of
- 1:16:31these three hormones our moods are much
- 1:16:34more volatile than yours you guys are
- 1:16:37pretty steady Edy we're a and this is
- 1:16:39general you know this is I hate to be
- 1:16:42sexist in this conversation but this is
- 1:16:44hormones and the way they work it's
- 1:16:47actually really helpful to know this
- 1:16:49because without this Insight it's very
- 1:16:52easy to fall into the Trap of just
- 1:16:55assuming your partner is Moody or that
- 1:16:59they are they have like mood swings or
- 1:17:01that they're you know people say things
- 1:17:03like they're too emotional or they're
- 1:17:05whatever it might be but with this I
- 1:17:07actually think it creates a ton of
- 1:17:08empathy yeah that's certainly the
- 1:17:10reaction that I get from hearing that
- 1:17:12there's a there's significant hormone
- 1:17:14fluctuations in my partner and they
- 1:17:15happen at certain periods it actually
- 1:17:17now would change my behavior the way
- 1:17:20that I receive certain times where I
- 1:17:22come home or I'm I that my my my partner
- 1:17:26is just different Y and it's almost it
- 1:17:28catches me off guard sometimes I've
- 1:17:29actually we've spoken a lot about this
- 1:17:31and we're very open we're very much the
- 1:17:34same person in terms of our willingness
- 1:17:35to talk about everything um and very
- 1:17:38difficult things as well yeah and there
- 1:17:39will be times where um I come home or we
- 1:17:42go through a patch where just a week you
- 1:17:44know things
- 1:17:46are making her upset which wouldn't
- 1:17:49normally make her upset just tiny things
- 1:17:50that I'm doing and I go I what that's it
- 1:17:55like yeah you know so see if you can
- 1:17:56track that to a certain part of her
- 1:17:58cycle oh I'm kidding so like the week
- 1:18:00before our period we're pretty we're
- 1:18:03irritable and every time I say that men
- 1:18:05go well you said it I didn't say it well
- 1:18:08but that's because progesterone we you
- 1:18:09know we're meant to be more inner we're
- 1:18:11meant to sit on the couch we're also
- 1:18:13meant Believe It or Not glucose goes
- 1:18:15higher the week before our period so We
- 1:18:17crave carbs there's a reason We crave
- 1:18:19carbs because we need to bring glucose
- 1:18:20up to be able to make progesterone so We
- 1:18:24crave carbs we're irritable we don't
- 1:18:26want a lot of cortisol so generally
- 1:18:28we're a little bit slower we don't want
- 1:18:30to you know we don't have the desire to
- 1:18:32push through stress and push through
- 1:18:34exercise and so we're going to be we're
- 1:18:36a little we're different that week where
- 1:18:39so if you come up and you just put your
- 1:18:40hand on our shoulder and you're like I
- 1:18:43love you you're amazing I'm here if you
- 1:18:45need anything that's all you got to do
- 1:18:48but if you're trying to resolve a big
- 1:18:50conflict or you're trying to come at us
- 1:18:53in in too aggressive of a way we will
- 1:18:55shut down the week before our
- 1:18:57periods so interesting whereas if you
- 1:19:00have something you want to resolve with
- 1:19:01us make sure estrogen's there because
- 1:19:03estrogen makes us great great verbal our
- 1:19:06verbal skills are incredible when
- 1:19:08estrogen's around ask any menopausal
- 1:19:10woman she'll tell you what it's like
- 1:19:11when she loses estrogen and I have to
- 1:19:14say this is because you know women have
- 1:19:17this incredible power to create life
- 1:19:21yeah that us men don't have it's like
- 1:19:23women are super Heroes for being able to
- 1:19:26carry a baby for significant amounts of
- 1:19:29time and then give birth to this baby
- 1:19:30it's just the most magical thing that I
- 1:19:32can think of in existence and women have
- 1:19:34that superpower and with that comes the
- 1:19:36cycle yeah so it's a wonderful thing
- 1:19:40it's beautiful and the in in the book I
- 1:19:44called it the manifestation phase
- 1:19:45ovulation because when all of those
- 1:19:48hormones come in we can manifest
- 1:19:51anything we want but it's not just a
- 1:19:53baby this is a great time ovulation is
- 1:19:56an amazing time to start a new business
- 1:19:58project interesting it's a great time
- 1:20:01like as an author like I'm going to
- 1:20:04write during those five days because my
- 1:20:05creativity is going to be at its peak so
- 1:20:09we're highly creative if you want to
- 1:20:11like you know talk about something about
- 1:20:14life and how to create something with us
- 1:20:15do it during ovulation your
- 1:20:18husband is behind that wall here in my
- 1:20:22home and does is he aware of your
- 1:20:25menstrual cycle he he is until I started
- 1:20:27to lose it I'm 53 so I'm it's starting
- 1:20:30to go um but yeah we talk like this all
- 1:20:33the time and and the way I like to to I
- 1:20:36like to take ownership over my hormonal
- 1:20:39moods so I will say to him after a long
- 1:20:43day of work I will say hey it's been a
- 1:20:46testosterone driven day for me I don't
- 1:20:50feel like I have a lot of estrogen right
- 1:20:52now I can't handle a lot of stress I'm
- 1:20:54going to need to just take some time to
- 1:20:56myself we literally talk like that we
- 1:21:01um losing the menstrual cycle we the
- 1:21:03first time I started as a young man that
- 1:21:05hasn't been exposed to that at any point
- 1:21:07in my sort of you know in the education
- 1:21:10system or other um the first time I
- 1:21:13started to understand what menopause was
- 1:21:15and premenopause and Par menopause all
- 1:21:17these things was from guests that have
- 1:21:18come here and it's such a big it was
- 1:21:21such a big light bulb moment for me
- 1:21:23because I have um women in my life that
- 1:21:25are going through that phase of life and
- 1:21:28I feel like they are so misunderstood in
- 1:21:30so many ways thank you and I love
- 1:21:33hearing about it now um because it's
- 1:21:35going to help me relate to those women
- 1:21:37in a better way and have and understand
- 1:21:39how I can
- 1:21:40be a partner with them through that
- 1:21:43phase of life like you know certain
- 1:21:44members of my family that are going
- 1:21:46through that phase of Life what do what
- 1:21:48do we need to know as men but also as
- 1:21:50women about menopause per menopause and
- 1:21:53all those things thank you thank you for
- 1:21:56asking I think that we're the most
- 1:21:58misunderstood um age group of women and
- 1:22:02with the 45 to 55 year old in that
- 1:22:05decade is the most common time for women
- 1:22:07to commit suicide really yeah this is
- 1:22:11why my next book I'm writing right now
- 1:22:12is on the mental health of menopausal
- 1:22:14women because we're struggling and so
- 1:22:17the first thing you have to know is that
- 1:22:18after 40 our sex hormones start to
- 1:22:21decline so estrogen goes up and down so
- 1:22:25one day you're going to experience if
- 1:22:26you have if you live with a 43y old
- 1:22:28woman you're going to experience she's
- 1:22:30great next day you're going to be like
- 1:22:32who are you that's because her estrogen
- 1:22:34is on a roller coaster ride so that's
- 1:22:36the first thing to know second thing is
- 1:22:39that progesterone is plummeting after 40
- 1:22:42they actually say now at 35 progesterone
- 1:22:44is starting to go down so as
- 1:22:47progesterone goes down we are less
- 1:22:49stress resilient so little things are
- 1:22:52going to irritate us like they've never
- 1:22:54irritated us before and you might be the
- 1:22:57recipient of that so if you find we're
- 1:23:00very triggerable it's because we're
- 1:23:02losing progesterone so we need to we
- 1:23:05just need to have more breaks we need
- 1:23:07more nurturing like I explained in the
- 1:23:09menstrual cycle we need to have more
- 1:23:11love brought our way because we just
- 1:23:13can't handle stress the same way and
- 1:23:16then as as ultimately estrogen finally
- 1:23:19goes into a place where she's
- 1:23:21non-existent once a woman doesn't have
- 1:23:22her cycle we can't hold on to
- 1:23:25information the way the same way we used
- 1:23:27to be able to we forget things and it's
- 1:23:30really frustrating to us and so when
- 1:23:33people around us like I went through
- 1:23:35this with my team when I was trying to
- 1:23:37get my menopausal hormones in check they
- 1:23:40would say well you already told us that
- 1:23:42yes you reminded us of that and I
- 1:23:44started finding I was repeating myself
- 1:23:47and then I realized oh I'm at a new
- 1:23:49level of low of estrogen and then I
- 1:23:52worked you know getting a working with
- 1:23:53some bio identicals working with some
- 1:23:55lifestyle to bring my estrogen up but
- 1:23:58from 40 till about
- 1:24:0155 that is about a 10 to 15 year period
- 1:24:04where the woman's brain has to
- 1:24:06recalibrate to these loss of hormones
- 1:24:09and so our moods are all over the place
- 1:24:12during that time so understanding where
- 1:24:16we're at having more compassion for us
- 1:24:18not taking us on um and just helping us
- 1:24:22understand ourselves which is largely
- 1:24:24what I'm trying to do through my books
- 1:24:26is will be so helpful but we don't even
- 1:24:30understand our own selves menopausal
- 1:24:32moods are are treacherous it's an
- 1:24:34extreme
- 1:24:36sport it literally is an extreme sport
- 1:24:39it's brutal what about off the 45 she
- 1:24:40said 40 to 45 yeah so once we actually
- 1:24:43go a whole year without a period we
- 1:24:46actually do better so the brain is used
- 1:24:49to the less hormones so when we get on
- 1:24:51the other side
- 1:24:53postmenopausal we actually are great uh
- 1:24:55we're women that once they go to that
- 1:24:59side of the hormonal process tend to
- 1:25:02actually be you know we have so much
- 1:25:04wisdom I'd like to think um we actually
- 1:25:07tend to be the opposite of everything I
- 1:25:09just said we tend to be more stress uh
- 1:25:13we can handle stress better we tend to
- 1:25:14be more gregarious our libido goes back
- 1:25:16up our as our brain starts to
- 1:25:19recalibrate we become a better version
- 1:25:21of ourselves and it's that first phase
- 1:25:23that 40 to 45 phase what's that phase
- 1:25:25called is that the that's per menopause
- 1:25:27per menopause and then menopause is
- 1:25:29beyond 45 yeah the average age for
- 1:25:31menopause right now is about 52 although
- 1:25:34a lot of women are going in around 45
- 1:25:37sometimes
- 1:25:38earlier okay but but I think that if
- 1:25:41there was one thing I want want I could
- 1:25:44help the world understand is that we're
- 1:25:47trying to understand ourselves during
- 1:25:49that time so be patient with us because
- 1:25:53we may not we may react much different
- 1:25:55than you've ever seen us react
- 1:25:57before so we have to get to know
- 1:26:00ourselves from a new lens that's the
- 1:26:03gift that menopause actually gives us
- 1:26:05and if you allow us to do that when we
- 1:26:07make it through to the postmenopausal
- 1:26:09years you're going to have a beautiful
- 1:26:12wise wonderful woman on the other side
- 1:26:14of that it's just that transition into
- 1:26:17per menopause is really a a treacherous
- 1:26:21one it's so interesting it's so I find
- 1:26:23it agreeing that no one told me this at
- 1:26:26any point in my life agreed um because
- 1:26:29irrespective of whether you are a woman
- 1:26:31or not and you're going to go through
- 1:26:33that you're going to um your
- 1:26:35relationships with women are going to be
- 1:26:37integral to your life unavoidably your
- 1:26:39mother your grandmother your partner so
- 1:26:42having the Insight gives me the empathy
- 1:26:45I love it you know and that's what
- 1:26:47that's why I'm so fortunate from having
- 1:26:48this conversation it was Gabby Logan who
- 1:26:50came on this podcast de mcco who wrote a
- 1:26:52book about menopause in the end and knew
- 1:26:53that I've really helped to open my eyes
- 1:26:55about that and um it's interesting I
- 1:26:58just I don't know what it is I think
- 1:26:59growing up like men just don't want to
- 1:27:01talk about periods and menstrual cycles
- 1:27:03and all of these kinds of things they're
- 1:27:04almost Taboo in a weird way I call it in
- 1:27:07the new book I'm writing I'm calling it
- 1:27:09the cultural hush yeah I think we have a
- 1:27:12cultural hush around the menstrual cycle
- 1:27:14around menopause I can't tell you the
- 1:27:16number of men since fast like a girl
- 1:27:18that has come out that read that book
- 1:27:21and they go to the chapter on women and
- 1:27:24hormones and then they come and find me
- 1:27:26and say I finally understand my wife
- 1:27:28yeah I finally understand my daughter
- 1:27:31well why aren't we talking about that
- 1:27:32and then how many women we don't we
- 1:27:34don't talk about like the fact that I'm
- 1:27:36I'm suffering because I don't have as
- 1:27:38much estro estrogen it it would we don't
- 1:27:41have a culture or a society that allows
- 1:27:43us to talk like that and that's what I
- 1:27:46think is is Shifting right now so many
- 1:27:48menopause books are coming out big
- 1:27:50people you know Oprah is starting to do
- 1:27:52a whole thing on menopause like the
- 1:27:54conversation's opening up but it's going
- 1:27:56to take bravery from women to step up I
- 1:27:59mean I'm a very very capable woman who
- 1:28:01has a beautiful family and a great
- 1:28:03business it's really hard for me to say
- 1:28:07I can't do one more zoom call my brain
- 1:28:10can't do it that feels like
- 1:28:12failure and then we have the other side
- 1:28:15of this which is we have the men that
- 1:28:17are like why are you being a [ __ ] today
- 1:28:20it's like because I don't have the
- 1:28:21hormone to stop me from being a [ __ ]
- 1:28:23today so those those kind of
- 1:28:26conversations are not hand happening but
- 1:28:28if we did it with more empathy if we
- 1:28:29could express ourself like hey I just
- 1:28:31need to I need a break right now is just
- 1:28:33a lot on my hormones give me 30 minutes
- 1:28:36give me an hour I can come back and be a
- 1:28:38better version I just need to take care
- 1:28:39of myself now someone's going to be
- 1:28:41listening to this and they're going to
- 1:28:42think H it's not a problem you can just
- 1:28:44go get the hormones you can just go get
- 1:28:46some
- 1:28:48HRT it's called HRT right HRT yeah you
- 1:28:51can go get some HRT throw that at the
- 1:28:53problem then you'll have your hormones
- 1:28:55back yeah so this is this is the big
- 1:28:59thing is that just because you take a
- 1:29:01hormone doesn't mean your cells are
- 1:29:02going to use it so if you take let's use
- 1:29:06let's use uh thyroids a perfect example
- 1:29:09because so many women specifically take
- 1:29:11thyroid medication and they don't see
- 1:29:13any any any change in their thyroid
- 1:29:16symptoms it's called an exogenous
- 1:29:18hormone you bring it into your body the
- 1:29:21body registers that it's there the gut
- 1:29:23and the have to still break that hormone
- 1:29:26down into a usable form so if your gut
- 1:29:29is off or your liver is overloaded
- 1:29:31you're not going to break that hormone
- 1:29:32down once that hormone's broken down the
- 1:29:35cell has to be able to receive it if
- 1:29:37that cell is inflamed with a lot of
- 1:29:40toxic oils and endocrine disruptors
- 1:29:42there's no way to get the hormone into
- 1:29:44the cell so there are three very pivotal
- 1:29:47pieces you got to there has to be
- 1:29:50production of the hormone there has to
- 1:29:52be breaking down of the hormone and
- 1:29:53there has to be receiving of the hormone
- 1:29:55so when you take HRT you're only
- 1:29:57handling one of those things you still
- 1:29:59and lifestyle this is why I'm such a so
- 1:30:01passionate about lifestyle lifestyle can
- 1:30:03handle the other two they can take care
- 1:30:05of the gut and the liver they can open
- 1:30:08up the cell so it can receive HRT I I've
- 1:30:11been uh I wrote a book called The
- 1:30:12menopause reset and it'll come out in
- 1:30:15we're reissuing it in uh June and one of
- 1:30:18the things in there is I I mapped out
- 1:30:20five lifestyle changes that women should
- 1:30:22do after 40 and in that book I lived
- 1:30:26that I did that through my whole 40s I
- 1:30:28didn't start doing bioidenticals till
- 1:30:30like 52 but I had my lifestyle dialed in
- 1:30:33first and now bioidenticals are working
- 1:30:36well people are sat there going five
- 1:30:39Lifestyle Changes they want to know what
- 1:30:42they are they're gonna they're going to
- 1:30:43buy the book as well aren't we we're
- 1:30:45gonna buy the book and we're going to
- 1:30:46find out right now yes okay well what do
- 1:30:49you think the first one is fasting yes
- 1:30:52there you go the first one's fasting
- 1:30:54uh so and and actually fast like a girl
- 1:30:57came after the menopause reset because
- 1:30:59all the women asked me well what if I
- 1:31:02have a site you know what if I'm in my
- 1:31:0430s what if I'm in my 20s how should I
- 1:31:05fast so that's you know that was sort of
- 1:31:07the birth of that book so fasting second
- 1:31:10one is you have to learn to cycle your
- 1:31:12food so you ketogenic diet works really
- 1:31:15well at certain times cycle your food
- 1:31:18cycle your food Styles what does that
- 1:31:20mean so if in the front half if you have
- 1:31:24a menstrual cycle yeah in the front half
- 1:31:26when estrogen's coming in go keto keep
- 1:31:28carbs low keep glucose low you're great
- 1:31:32back half of your cycle when
- 1:31:33progesterone's coming in raise glucose
- 1:31:36so don't go keto but do Nature's carbs
- 1:31:39do more fruits do more squashes potatoes
- 1:31:42that's going to help with building
- 1:31:44progesterone so the per menopausal woman
- 1:31:47has to learn that there's times to bring
- 1:31:50carbs down and there's times to bring
- 1:31:51carbs up and that's what I explain in
- 1:31:53that I called it keto variations in that
- 1:31:55book so that's step two step three
- 1:31:59microbiome you got to pay attention to
- 1:32:01your microbiome too many women have been
- 1:32:02on birth control for decades they go
- 1:32:04screaming into their per menopausal
- 1:32:06years and their microbiomes and is
- 1:32:08completely off we have a whole set of
- 1:32:10bacteria in our gut called the
- 1:32:12estrobolome which is the bacteria that
- 1:32:14break estrogen down so you need to be
- 1:32:17eating more leafy green vegetables more
- 1:32:19nuts and seeds olives chocolate even is
- 1:32:22great for the microbiome so I list all
- 1:32:24those Foods out in there and then number
- 1:32:27go ahead and that's for stage two of the
- 1:32:29three steps to act these hormone
- 1:32:32replacement therapy is actually working
- 1:32:33which is being able to metabolize the
- 1:32:35hormone break it down yes you got it
- 1:32:37okay step four you got it you're going
- 1:32:39to be a hormone expert after this well
- 1:32:40you know not just a pretty face yeah so
- 1:32:43then the fourth one is watch your toxic
- 1:32:44load so we talked about that and then
- 1:32:47step five is my favorite um and it's
- 1:32:50stop being a rushing woman yeah I know
- 1:32:53as I tell you from a rushing
- 1:32:56lifestyle we need more as we go through
- 1:32:58per menopause we need more more downtime
- 1:33:02you got to schedule more downtime you
- 1:33:03need to let that nervous system come
- 1:33:05down you can't go through your par
- 1:33:08menopausal years and Thrive if you are
- 1:33:11go go go all the time it will catch up
- 1:33:13with you and so you've got to bring in
- 1:33:15more mindfulness more meditation more
- 1:33:18yoga more more vacations more nose
- 1:33:22that's got to be a part of your
- 1:33:23repertoire you might have gotten away
- 1:33:25with it at 35 but you won't get away
- 1:33:26with it at
- 1:33:2945 I was thinking then as you speaking I
- 1:33:31was thinking about how I kind of
- 1:33:33summarize all of these points into how
- 1:33:36we should be living Our Lives as men and
- 1:33:37women because obviously we've got
- 1:33:39dragged into a consumerist
- 1:33:42workaholic sugar overloaded toxin ridden
- 1:33:46life because of because we've been
- 1:33:48unconscious yeah you know so we that's
- 1:33:50the way that cor corporations
- 1:33:54and media narrative and social media
- 1:33:56algorithms have taken us so I was
- 1:33:58thinking if we could just pause for a
- 1:33:59second and we could rewrite the
- 1:34:01blueprint of what it is to be a human
- 1:34:03and how to
- 1:34:05live let's try and rewrite that so how
- 1:34:08would I work as a man and a woman what
- 1:34:11would be the the differences how many
- 1:34:12days a week what if you if you were in
- 1:34:15charge now of rewriting that which you
- 1:34:17might be one day I'd like to be you'd
- 1:34:19like to be okay so you're taking on the
- 1:34:21responsibility so how would men and
- 1:34:22women work and and you mean from a
- 1:34:25business yeah like a professional
- 1:34:26standpoint okay well let's start with a
- 1:34:28man yeah so well both men and women we
- 1:34:31have two nervous systems one that speeds
- 1:34:33us up one that relax that slows us down
- 1:34:37so you could be in a speed up mode most
- 1:34:40of the time I would say you just need to
- 1:34:43make sure I mean it really actually I
- 1:34:45just thought about this right now the
- 1:34:47the patriarchal Work Week works really
- 1:34:50well for men Monday through F Friday
- 1:34:53work your fanny off Saturday and Sunday
- 1:34:55take it off now you're you're moving in
- 1:34:58and out of your parasympathetic and
- 1:35:01sympathetic nervous system and you're
- 1:35:03giving both of them a break you are not
- 1:35:05meant to be working 247 seven days a
- 1:35:08week you know like you're not meant to
- 1:35:09be working all the time and and never
- 1:35:11taking a break what would you make the
- 1:35:13work hours for a man well I'm I'm a big
- 1:35:16fan of working in the daylight and
- 1:35:18resting we're supposed to rest when it's
- 1:35:20dark okay so winter you would work less
- 1:35:22summer you would work more
- 1:35:24okay we do the opposite right we take
- 1:35:26more vacation in the summer women so
- 1:35:29women we would design our whole work
- 1:35:32week around our menstrual cycle so we
- 1:35:35could go Full Tilt all the way till day
- 1:35:3819 day 20 and then we would we would
- 1:35:41take a week off and we would bow out so
- 1:35:45instead of doing it in a weekly amount
- 1:35:47like you guys would be doing we'd be
- 1:35:48doing it in a monthly amount and how
- 1:35:49long would you bow out for well ideally
- 1:35:52it depends on each woman's going to be a
- 1:35:54little different but I would say
- 1:35:56anywhere from I want to say seven days
- 1:35:59if it worked for a schedule until you
- 1:36:01bleed so day 20 till you know if you're
- 1:36:05if day 21 till day 28 you would do it
- 1:36:08for a week bowing out might also look
- 1:36:11like I just am not going to take on the
- 1:36:15the high load that I normally do the
- 1:36:17rest of the month maybe I'll cut it in
- 1:36:18half mhm maybe work from home or yeah
- 1:36:22yeah maybe I work from home maybe I
- 1:36:24can't do my workload and my extreme
- 1:36:26exercise and go socialize with my
- 1:36:28friends during that week I just need to
- 1:36:30start to slow everything down so that's
- 1:36:33what I I want to say about bowing out is
- 1:36:35that it's just you're putting yourself
- 1:36:38first and you're slowing everything down
- 1:36:41now eating men and women eating yeah so
- 1:36:45men um I think as far as food I agree
- 1:36:48with just keeping blood sugar stable is
- 1:36:50great I think you guys really work well
- 1:36:52off of a meat based an animal uh diet I
- 1:36:55don't think you have more you have more
- 1:36:57testosterone which means you have more
- 1:36:58muscle we the way that we build muscle
- 1:37:01and keep muscle strong is through amino
- 1:37:03acids and you get that in meat so for
- 1:37:06men I feel like that Primal diet the
- 1:37:09paleo diet was meat and vegetables and
- 1:37:11fruit is amazing I think that's that's
- 1:37:14perfect I don't think refined flowers
- 1:37:16and sugars um that we get are exposed to
- 1:37:20I think that over in an overabundance
- 1:37:22they'll hurt men too and we're seeing
- 1:37:24that with metabolic syndrome women we do
- 1:37:27well with Meats I you know um I think we
- 1:37:30need less of it because we have less
- 1:37:33testosterone so we may need less of it
- 1:37:35although it is important protein is
- 1:37:37important especially as we age so I
- 1:37:39don't want to lose sight on that um but
- 1:37:41we also need to bring glucose up so we
- 1:37:43need more fruits we're going to need
- 1:37:45more squashes we're going to need more
- 1:37:46potatoes and that's you know all built
- 1:37:48around your menstrual cycle so eating
- 1:37:52times uh I'm I'm not a fan of eating
- 1:37:55when it's dark out because when me
- 1:37:56melatonin goes up insulin you become
- 1:37:59more insulin resistant so I'm a fan of
- 1:38:02which means what it means you so your
- 1:38:05your body won't process the glucose from
- 1:38:07that meal as efficiently when it's dark
- 1:38:09out it won't take it away and store it
- 1:38:11or it needs to be stor as energy exactly
- 1:38:13it will store it as fat or something or
- 1:38:14uh yeah it's going to store it as fat if
- 1:38:16it can't if insulin can't drive it into
- 1:38:17the cell for energy it'll stored as fat
- 1:38:19so the meal you eat at 9:30 is going to
- 1:38:22be stored more as fat than if you have
- 1:38:24that same meal at
- 1:38:275:30 I know so night eers aren't doing
- 1:38:30themselves any favors no so we go back
- 1:38:33to our Primal friends right like let's
- 1:38:35go back and use that if if if people get
- 1:38:37lost in these theories so they didn't
- 1:38:40have electricity they sat around the
- 1:38:42fire so most likely they ate during
- 1:38:45light hours and then the women what did
- 1:38:48the women do if we go back and look at
- 1:38:50at cultures around our period we were
- 1:38:53actually that's the whole Red Tent ideas
- 1:38:55we were SE sequestered off into another
- 1:38:58part of the of the tribe we didn't have
- 1:39:01to do as many chores we went more into
- 1:39:03an introverted place if you go back and
- 1:39:05you study what we did in those days it
- 1:39:07was very much along those lines and
- 1:39:10we're just not doing that now what about
- 1:39:12supplements what supplements would you
- 1:39:14have men and women
- 1:39:16consuming uh well for women the most
- 1:39:20important supplement she could ever take
- 1:39:21is magnesium magnesium makes every
- 1:39:25single hormone in your body for men I
- 1:39:28would say the most important supplement
- 1:39:30I mean there's a lot of them um but for
- 1:39:32hormones zinc because zinc makes
- 1:39:35testosterone outside of that for both
- 1:39:37men and women the other supplement and
- 1:39:39the other measurement that we all need
- 1:39:41to be looking at are vitamin D levels
- 1:39:43yeah I've learned this from guest on
- 1:39:45this podcast I've started taking Vitamin
- 1:39:46D supplements yeah if your vitamin D is
- 1:39:49under 30 you are in a a critically uh
- 1:39:53depressed immune State uh so you got to
- 1:39:56get it definitely over 30 for hormonal
- 1:39:59Health we need to see it more up in
- 1:40:00about 60 70 to have your hormones be
- 1:40:03working at their best so this this goes
- 1:40:06back to like the HRT thing if all if
- 1:40:08we're taking HRT but our vitamin D is 20
- 1:40:12that HRT isn't going to be as effective
- 1:40:14as as compared to the woman who has an
- 1:40:16HRT of like 55 or 60 or a vitamin D of
- 1:40:2055 or 60 that HRT will work better
- 1:40:24interesting and and vitamin D comes from
- 1:40:26sunlight doesn't it sunlight and uh
- 1:40:30sardines sardines it's the food sources
- 1:40:33are really bad this is why everybody's
- 1:40:34low in it the food sources are it's
- 1:40:37sardines it's like really fatty fishes
- 1:40:40um and sunlight and we spend most of our
- 1:40:42time indoors that's right we can't get
- 1:40:44it from this kind of light right no no
- 1:40:46and you have to be outside with your
- 1:40:49like skin exposed at the high point of
- 1:40:51the day of the sun like 12 12
- 1:40:541:00 to get the most vitamin D and if
- 1:40:58you're in air a city where there's more
- 1:40:59air pollution study has shown that that
- 1:41:01you're not going to the Rays that come
- 1:41:03in that turn you uh that will hit your
- 1:41:05skin and turn it into Vitamin D are less
- 1:41:07because air pollution blocks it which is
- 1:41:10why so many people are low in vitamin D
- 1:41:12which is why taking vitamin D is a smart
- 1:41:14thing is that why people are doing these
- 1:41:16like infrared saas and stuff now does
- 1:41:18that produce vitamin D or is that
- 1:41:19something else that's more detox oh
- 1:41:21detox it's pushing infrared it what it
- 1:41:24does is it uh simulates a fever so it
- 1:41:28burns things out from the inside of the
- 1:41:30cell out which is why it's a really good
- 1:41:32detoxer there was a few things you said
- 1:41:34when I was watching some of your YouTube
- 1:41:35videos that I wrote down that I found
- 1:41:36really compelling one of them was you
- 1:41:37said about the importance of opening up
- 1:41:40our our detox Pathways and you just
- 1:41:43mentioned detoxing there what do you
- 1:41:44mean by opening up our detox Pathways
- 1:41:47yeah so if you look at our lymph system
- 1:41:50each the lymph is is like you know
- 1:41:52people know lymph nodes because when you
- 1:41:54get sick you can feel them Ms you get
- 1:41:56yeah yeah so the lymph is always
- 1:41:58carrying toxins out of organs so Li the
- 1:42:01liver has a lymph pathway the gut has
- 1:42:03lymph nodes in there that are going to
- 1:42:05pull all the toxins that are in there
- 1:42:07and move them out of you so we need to
- 1:42:10keep these lymph Pathways open so the
- 1:42:13gut the gut's a great one you should be
- 1:42:15having a bowel movement every single day
- 1:42:17if you're not having a bowel movement
- 1:42:18every single day then the what's what
- 1:42:21the body's trying to get rid of stain
- 1:42:23inside of you and it gets congested um a
- 1:42:27thing we teach women about the armpit
- 1:42:29and and actually would work for men too
- 1:42:31is that you're you should have a pit not
- 1:42:33a puff what do that mean if it's a puff
- 1:42:36like look in the mirror and if your
- 1:42:37armpit is a puff then that's stagnant
- 1:42:40lymph it means that you're not pulling
- 1:42:42the the toxins for women that are coming
- 1:42:44out of her breast are not getting out
- 1:42:46toxins that are coming out from the head
- 1:42:48down into the uh into the thoracic area
- 1:42:50is not getting out because it's
- 1:42:52congested so your underarm is Puffy and
- 1:42:55not like a pit yeah then you might be
- 1:42:58storing some of those toxins that's
- 1:43:00right and they're not moving they're not
- 1:43:01mobilizing why aren't they am I blocking
- 1:43:04my Pathways yeah the pathways blocked so
- 1:43:07with what well there's the question you
- 1:43:10with I feel like people are going to
- 1:43:11leave this podcast to be so depressed
- 1:43:13because there's so many pieces of this
- 1:43:15but uh deodorant deodorant clogs that up
- 1:43:19and so it doesn't mobilize all of the
- 1:43:21toxins out this was a big big thing with
- 1:43:23breast cancer is a lot of women using
- 1:43:25toxic deodorants they weren't getting
- 1:43:26the toxins out of the breast and it was
- 1:43:28clogging in the armpit because of the
- 1:43:30toxins from the
- 1:43:31deodorant that explains why we sweat in
- 1:43:34that area right yeah because it's a
- 1:43:36pathway why do we even have hair in that
- 1:43:38area I don't know you tell me it's a
- 1:43:40detox it's for detoxing it's to help get
- 1:43:43those toxins out oh so the molecules go
- 1:43:45down the hair yeah yeah and what do
- 1:43:48women do shave it off that's right so
- 1:43:51you're saying
- 1:43:53I I I shave I I'm I just because I don't
- 1:43:57I can't walk it's just not in my in my
- 1:44:00nature but I you know what I do is I
- 1:44:02have a loofah in my shower and I just
- 1:44:04loofah under my arms at whenever I
- 1:44:06shower to open up those Pathways what's
- 1:44:08a lofa it's like a little organic sponge
- 1:44:11ah okay it scrubs it yeah scrubs it we
- 1:44:13also have pubic hair we also have pubic
- 1:44:15hair we are getting toxins out from the
- 1:44:18ovaries the ovaries are the major area
- 1:44:20for and testes this is where hormones
- 1:44:22are being produced and so as they're
- 1:44:25coming out they are supposed to
- 1:44:27influence our everything biologically we
- 1:44:29need them to influence but then they're
- 1:44:31also supposed to get out of our system
- 1:44:34and so the hair ends up becoming like
- 1:44:36this way that we can mobilize the toxins
- 1:44:38out of us I never want I never knew or
- 1:44:41asked why I grow hair under my arms and
- 1:44:45in the pubic region no one ever told me
- 1:44:48about that no one ever I never
- 1:44:50questioned it I thought it was slightly
- 1:44:53inconvenience yes well it is for sure
- 1:44:56but the body doesn't do anything to
- 1:44:57inconvenience you it does it to increase
- 1:44:59your chances of survival because I'm the
- 1:45:01byproduct of millions of years of
- 1:45:05survival of the fittest and evolution
- 1:45:06that has made me pruned a sculpted to
- 1:45:11survive it's funny because we spend so
- 1:45:13much of our time and this goes back to
- 1:45:14the conversation around sugar we spend
- 1:45:16and just weight loss and all these
- 1:45:18things we live in a world where we think
- 1:45:19that our body is against us right it's
- 1:45:21fighting us it's it's making me go for
- 1:45:23the sugar drawer it's stopping me losing
- 1:45:25weight it's growing all these pubes
- 1:45:29right inconvenient yeah yeah yeah yeah
- 1:45:31and then we fight it we shave it off and
- 1:45:33we you know do all these crazy things to
- 1:45:35fight against our body but our body is
- 1:45:37very much it's it's
- 1:45:39actually it's actually for us and many
- 1:45:42of the things we're choosing to do are
- 1:45:43against us we are against ourselves not
- 1:45:45our bodies our bodies cannot put her
- 1:45:48foot wrong you got it I mean you got it
- 1:45:51it's this is what I'm trying to bring
- 1:45:53back is this this respect for what the
- 1:45:57body's trying to do that's what we're
- 1:45:59missing we we it's all
- 1:46:02inconvenient and it's everything from
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- 1:48:36really pissed me off this weekend I was
- 1:48:38walking through um New York City and I
- 1:48:41saw a poster and it is for inject weight
- 1:48:44loss injections yeah have you seen this
- 1:48:47this no but OIC is a is a drug that's
- 1:48:51really popular right now there's a
- 1:48:53couple of drugs right now there's
- 1:48:54there's one my friends were talking
- 1:48:56about it and we were like there's a
- 1:48:57diabetes drug I think and the headlines
- 1:48:59have been that so many people are taking
- 1:49:00this yeah diabetes drug to lose weight
- 1:49:02that people with diabetes are struggling
- 1:49:05um there's another one called
- 1:49:08semaglutide yep yep this is this is
- 1:49:12people injecting things in their body to
- 1:49:15help them lose weight Y and the poster
- 1:49:17which my friend had sent me and i' I'd
- 1:49:19seen it earlier and then he' sent me the
- 1:49:20poster as well in our group chat says
- 1:49:22one shot a week lose weight and it has
- 1:49:24the little URL someone thankfully had
- 1:49:26actually ripped the URL off this
- 1:49:27billboard um what's your take on all
- 1:49:30this stuff yeah the the the new
- 1:49:32medications that are out there right now
- 1:49:35are creating a weight loss uh
- 1:49:38possibility when we look at the scale
- 1:49:40and when we look at how people feel when
- 1:49:42they put on their clothes but it's at
- 1:49:44the expense of muscle they're actually
- 1:49:46losing more muscle than they are losing
- 1:49:49fat so yes you feel thinner but it's not
- 1:49:53because you lost fat you lost muscle
- 1:49:56muscle is the organ of Longevity if you
- 1:49:59lose muscle as you age you are going to
- 1:50:02be in a bad situation I mean we need
- 1:50:04muscle to get out of a chair yeah you
- 1:50:06need muscle to perform daily life
- 1:50:09functions the other thing people don't
- 1:50:10realize about muscle is in muscle or
- 1:50:12insulin re re uh receptors so if you
- 1:50:16lose muscle you don't have as many
- 1:50:19insulin receptors which means you're now
- 1:50:21putting yourself in a insulin resistant
- 1:50:23state which means you have to stay on
- 1:50:24the medication forever to be able to
- 1:50:26stay at the weight you want because you
- 1:50:29don't have the same insulin sensitivity
- 1:50:32so again we're it's like the calorie in
- 1:50:34calorie out short-term result long-term
- 1:50:38consequence it's not it's risky it's
- 1:50:40risky and then you know every medication
- 1:50:42has a side effect but I'm more concerned
- 1:50:45about the person who thinks they solved
- 1:50:46their weight loss issue and all they've
- 1:50:48done is made it worse down the
- 1:50:51road I here with many a health expert
- 1:50:53and a fitness expert and nutritional
- 1:50:55experts and they all agree with what you
- 1:50:57just said about muscle they all said to
- 1:50:59me cuz I asked a question to I think it
- 1:51:01was Tim Spectre about might have been
- 1:51:03jles yo asked a question about do does
- 1:51:05our metabolism fall off a cliff as we
- 1:51:09age which is quite a popular thing and a
- 1:51:10few of them said the same thing to me
- 1:51:12they go it at a certain point further
- 1:51:14down the line metabolism does change but
- 1:51:16really the thing that changed is muscle
- 1:51:17mass and that means that we stop moving
- 1:51:20as much which means that we gain weight
- 1:51:21faster so he said the number one thing
- 1:51:24that you need to do as you age is keep
- 1:51:25doing resistance training keep your
- 1:51:27muscle and because I was asking him a
- 1:51:29question about my father I said I went
- 1:51:30down this really St steep cliff in
- 1:51:32barley a couple of weekends before and
- 1:51:34as I was going down those stairs I was
- 1:51:36thinking my dad couldn't do this anymore
- 1:51:37and at the bottom of those stairs was
- 1:51:39our activity for the day we were going
- 1:51:41white water rafting and as I was walking
- 1:51:43down those stairs I was thinking I want
- 1:51:44to be my dad's age and be able to go
- 1:51:46down these stairs so I can do stuff with
- 1:51:47my kids um and getting into a place
- 1:51:51where I'm a mobile
- 1:51:53at you know in my by 60 that is a choice
- 1:51:56that is an unavoid that is a for most of
- 1:51:58us that is a choice and it's one that we
- 1:51:59can avoid if we keep muscle and we keep
- 1:52:01therefore we'll keep fat and what youve
- 1:52:03said there from what I garnered from it
- 1:52:05is I will actually if I take those
- 1:52:08chemicals and if I inject them into my
- 1:52:10body I'll lose my muscle mass and if I
- 1:52:11lose my muscle mass I will be I will
- 1:52:14have a higher chance of weight gain and
- 1:52:16obesity when I'm
- 1:52:18older and the and your functionality
- 1:52:22yeah so the great the perfect example
- 1:52:24that I always stuck in my head is my dad
- 1:52:26had a knee surgery and he's 86 years old
- 1:52:30and I remember trying to help him get
- 1:52:32around a chair that he was sitting in
- 1:52:34and he was starting to lose his upper
- 1:52:36body strength and he literally couldn't
- 1:52:38push himself up and out of the chair to
- 1:52:40be able to move into a comfortable
- 1:52:42position and I thought oh my gosh that's
- 1:52:44where muscle is so important at 86 years
- 1:52:47old is just being able to get up and out
- 1:52:49of a chair after after recovering from a
- 1:52:51surgery
- 1:52:53but if you think about the functionality
- 1:52:55of a human as we age if you want to be
- 1:52:57able to not do as many activities like
- 1:53:00you're talking about just make sure you
- 1:53:01don't have as much muscle like the
- 1:53:03minute muscle goes away your
- 1:53:05functionality goes away but more
- 1:53:06importantly the minute muscle goes away
- 1:53:08you're more insulin resistant so you're
- 1:53:11going to gain weight more Down The Long
- 1:53:13Haul a lot of other people would say you
- 1:53:15know the way to lose weight is just to
- 1:53:16do lots of cardio run a lot yeah good
- 1:53:22idea
- 1:53:23no no so here's another interesting
- 1:53:26thing and I'm going to give it through a
- 1:53:27women's perspective because we're let's
- 1:53:29go back to women over 40 so cortisol
- 1:53:32goes up with extra cardio uh calorie set
- 1:53:36point goes you know you're more calorie
- 1:53:39output so remember that's also happening
- 1:53:41and you're changing your set point so I
- 1:53:43need more calories my calorie set point
- 1:53:46goes up and my cortisol levels go up y
- 1:53:49okay okay so what ends up happening
- 1:53:53is that you actually now are tanking all
- 1:53:55your other hormones so let's follow the
- 1:53:58trail of progesterone cortisol goes up
- 1:54:00because you're you're doing so much
- 1:54:01cardio so progesterone goes down because
- 1:54:05Carol goes up progesterone goes down
- 1:54:07well progesterone keeps estrogen in
- 1:54:09check so now estrogen can go up and if
- 1:54:13you have too much estrogen eventually
- 1:54:15what's going to happen is it's going to
- 1:54:16be stored as fat so that extra hormone
- 1:54:19will so long term that's not a great
- 1:54:21plan for women for women for men uh well
- 1:54:24so then the second piece applies to both
- 1:54:26men and women is if you're doing a lot
- 1:54:29of cardio most likely you're breaking
- 1:54:32down muscle to be able to perform that
- 1:54:34cardio and a great example is look at a
- 1:54:36marathon runner versus a tennis player
- 1:54:39you know or a soccer player like even
- 1:54:41though soccer players are doing a lot of
- 1:54:42cardio it's a lot of start stop start
- 1:54:44stop but a marathon one Runner who's
- 1:54:46done so much cardio is breaking muscle
- 1:54:48down to be able to do that amount of
- 1:54:51cardio so
- 1:54:53it's okay to do just not at the expense
- 1:54:55of muscle and for a women you can't do
- 1:54:57it at the expense of
- 1:54:59progesterone
- 1:55:00so it won't help me to lose weight doing
- 1:55:04cardio no you know what's going to help
- 1:55:05you to lose weight is more weightlifting
- 1:55:08build more muscles you have more insulin
- 1:55:10receptor sites fast more so you can get
- 1:55:14rid of all of the glucose that gets
- 1:55:15stored in muscles break your fast with
- 1:55:18protein and yeah I mean that's what we
- 1:55:21saw we see all all the time in both my
- 1:55:23clinic and my online world is those
- 1:55:25three things will get you in the shape
- 1:55:28that you want it might not remember as
- 1:55:30you build muscle you're not going to
- 1:55:31lose the the the number on the scale
- 1:55:34might be that much different you know it
- 1:55:37might it might not move but your whole
- 1:55:39shape is going to change you're going to
- 1:55:41look different so is any level of cardio
- 1:55:45good for weight loss would you recommend
- 1:55:48that just for the the broader health
- 1:55:49benefits I you know I think cardio is
- 1:55:51more of a mental health Improvement
- 1:55:54improve you know you get all those
- 1:55:55endorphins it's so good for your mental
- 1:55:57health I love to go running it's my
- 1:55:59favorite thing but I do it for my mental
- 1:56:01health not to lose
- 1:56:03weight another thing that I saw online
- 1:56:05which was very curious that you said is
- 1:56:06you were talking about how to undo the
- 1:56:09oxidative damage from eating too much
- 1:56:11sugar yeah what do you mean by that so
- 1:56:14think about think about the cell as an
- 1:56:15ecosystem right and so inside the cell
- 1:56:18there has to be a balance of all the
- 1:56:21right components so when glucose goes up
- 1:56:24which happens when you eat too much
- 1:56:25sugar that balance goes off and one of
- 1:56:28the byproducts of that is that your body
- 1:56:30puts off these free radicals it creates
- 1:56:32more oxidative damage within the cell
- 1:56:35the more of that oxidative damage the
- 1:56:37more it's going to destroy mitochondria
- 1:56:39and the and the nucleus and all the
- 1:56:41cellular parts so what you're doing when
- 1:56:44you're fasting is you're reestablishing
- 1:56:47balance into the cell and you're
- 1:56:49allowing to your body to naturally un do
- 1:56:52the oxidative damage that happened from
- 1:56:55poor living got you so it's like a reset
- 1:56:57on it's like a cellular reset people say
- 1:57:00that there's been a school of thought
- 1:57:02that fasting breaks down muscle that
- 1:57:03I'll lose muscle if I fast true or false
- 1:57:06so it appears to break down muscle you
- 1:57:09it depends on how long you're in a fast
- 1:57:11but it will appear as if your muscle is
- 1:57:13shrinking because it's getting rid of
- 1:57:15the stored sugar but when you now bring
- 1:57:18in a high protein meal and feed it amino
- 1:57:21acids it will grow stronger you'll see
- 1:57:23more definition because it it broke the
- 1:57:26sugar down which you don't want in
- 1:57:28there so it changes the the shape of the
- 1:57:31muscle makes it more lean I guess it
- 1:57:34makes it more lean but if you follow
- 1:57:36that up with good eating you're going to
- 1:57:38make yourself stronger now the person
- 1:57:40who decides to go into a fast breaks
- 1:57:43down muscle and doesn't follow up with
- 1:57:46good eating yeah you're going to end up
- 1:57:48with less muscle but if you follow it up
- 1:57:50with a lot of protein and you build that
- 1:57:52Emptor back up now you're actually able
- 1:57:55to build your muscle even stronger
- 1:57:57there's two ways to build muscle one is
- 1:57:59through weights lifting weights strength
- 1:58:01training and the other is through food
- 1:58:04protein so all fasting is doing is
- 1:58:06leaning it out and does fasting have an
- 1:58:09impact
- 1:58:10on my
- 1:58:13sleep uh it it can in a couple ways um
- 1:58:17sleep for starters if your brain's
- 1:58:19inflamed you're not going to sleep so
- 1:58:21fasting brings down inflammation so that
- 1:58:23would be the first thing um the other
- 1:58:25thing is that a lot of people wake up
- 1:58:27especially women 2 3: in the morning and
- 1:58:29they kind of get the jolt out of out of
- 1:58:30bed and a lot of times that's because
- 1:58:33you've maybe had dinner at 7 o'clock
- 1:58:35glucose is going down and so the body
- 1:58:38registers that glucose has gone down and
- 1:58:40so it gives you a cortisol Spike and all
- 1:58:42of a sudden you wake up at 2 or 3 in the
- 1:58:44morning is that why some people wake up
- 1:58:46at I've got a friend of mine that's um
- 1:58:48an elderly male and he always tells me
- 1:58:51goes oh I woke up at 3: a.m. last night
- 1:58:52and he's constantly saying it he's like
- 1:58:54I woke up in the middle of the night
- 1:58:55again last night yep and I've always
- 1:58:57wondered why and we when I'm with him we
- 1:58:59do eat dinner particularly late yeah
- 1:59:02yeah so he's probably getting so he has
- 1:59:04all that glucose he go he goes to sleep
- 1:59:07and now the glucose starts to go down
- 1:59:09and then there's going to be a point at
- 1:59:10which the body registers that it hits a
- 1:59:12new low and then it triggers it and and
- 1:59:14all of a sudden triggers uh cortisol and
- 1:59:16releases glucose from other body parts
- 1:59:18and the the body takes that as we're
- 1:59:20running from a tiger get up out bed ah
- 1:59:22so it wakes you up yeah and to avoid
- 1:59:24that what would you do you'd recommend
- 1:59:26not eating so late yeah not eating so
- 1:59:28late but the more you fast the more
- 1:59:30you're you stabilize that blood sugar
- 1:59:32and you don't have those highs and lows
- 1:59:34as much it's it's a com it's a way of
- 1:59:37bringing balance back to the whole blood
- 1:59:39sugar system I have to say you know we
- 1:59:41talk a lot about I mean we've talked
- 1:59:43extensively about fasting today and one
- 1:59:45of the concerns I have about talking
- 1:59:47about the subject matter is the
- 1:59:49implications it has for people with
- 1:59:51eating disorders
- 1:59:52y um because it's quite easy to conflate
- 1:59:55messages if if you're not able to fully
- 2:00:00understand the context of everything and
- 2:00:02I'm sure that's a topic you've you've
- 2:00:04thought about I mean you I think you
- 2:00:05actually write about it in one of the
- 2:00:06the later chapters in your book in
- 2:00:08chapter 10 yep
- 2:00:11um it's a it's it's a common it's it's
- 2:00:14one that we thought a lot about when we
- 2:00:17wrote the book so I I I want to say that
- 2:00:20first that um when the book was put
- 2:00:23together that was definitely something
- 2:00:25my agent the publisher everybody was
- 2:00:27really keen on how can we tread that
- 2:00:30lightly and here's my stance on it the
- 2:00:33first is that if you have a severe
- 2:00:35eating disorder I'm going to recommend
- 2:00:37that if you want to learn to fast you
- 2:00:39need to bring your therapist into it you
- 2:00:41need to bring your doctor into it you
- 2:00:42need another set of eyes to help you
- 2:00:44navigate that so that would be the first
- 2:00:47thing that I would say um second thing
- 2:00:49I'm going to go back to this woman that
- 2:00:51I worked with who had severe eating
- 2:00:52disorders and and she's been um very
- 2:00:55very public about her eating disorders
- 2:00:58and I didn't start with fasting I
- 2:01:00started with food with her so we started
- 2:01:02by stabilizing her blood sugar first and
- 2:01:05then once I saw that those spikes on her
- 2:01:07glucose monitor were were in a place I
- 2:01:10wanted were more steady then I
- 2:01:12introduced fasting because she was
- 2:01:14seeing food as a real healing tool and
- 2:01:17then I could put patch on fasting as a
- 2:01:20as an adjunct to it and she's doing
- 2:01:22incredible incredible so you it's
- 2:01:26there's just a different approach but I
- 2:01:27really encourage that you work with your
- 2:01:30practitioner or your
- 2:01:31therapist where do I start I'm sold you
- 2:01:35sold me on fasting I'm going to become a
- 2:01:38faster where do I start Mindy so the
- 2:01:42first place to start is you want to
- 2:01:43think about compressing your food into
- 2:01:45one eating window so let me start by
- 2:01:48asking you what time do you typically
- 2:01:49finish eating dinner
- 2:01:52I told you this off camera and I told
- 2:01:53you not to mention it sorry sorry okay
- 2:01:57on a on a good
- 2:01:59day on an Ideal day so my my issue is um
- 2:02:03I'm going to be honest because that's
- 2:02:04the point of this podcast um the issue I
- 2:02:06have is I wake up in the morning I then
- 2:02:10Begin work and I'll get I'll eat my
- 2:02:12first meal this is quite shocking in
- 2:02:14fact I'll eat my first meal
- 2:02:16around I'm going to say between 2:00
- 2:02:20p.m. and
- 2:02:23400 p.m. depending on how busy my
- 2:02:24schedule is sometimes there's been days
- 2:02:26I remember one particular day it's
- 2:02:27actually when I found out that I do this
- 2:02:29I took someone with me for the day they
- 2:02:30were shado me for the day and it got to
- 2:02:327: p.m. and they go we haven't eaten
- 2:02:34today oh wow and I didn't notice I had
- 2:02:36no idea that I hadn't eaten that day so
- 2:02:37I'm a very late eater but then the issue
- 2:02:40is I will go to the gym usually in the
- 2:02:43evening usually after work often between
- 2:02:45900 p.m. and 11:00 p.m. and then when I
- 2:02:47get home from the gym oh no this is I go
- 2:02:51to sleep like a good boy no I this is
- 2:02:53where you go WR this is it yeah this is
- 2:02:55where it goes downhill then I'll eat
- 2:02:57then I'll eat something um pretty late
- 2:03:00at night and that could be midnight so
- 2:03:05you're so what I heard in that is your
- 2:03:07eating window is 2 to 12 2 to 12 yeah so
- 2:03:11that you're in a you're in a 10hour
- 2:03:12eating window yeah so in in if you in
- 2:03:16the morning are you doing coffee yeah
- 2:03:18yeah I do now mainly because of this
- 2:03:20podcast but okay yeah but you're not
- 2:03:22eating anything else in the morning no
- 2:03:25not really no on on no I don't eat
- 2:03:28breakfast there's no days in my life
- 2:03:30where I eat breakfast really um the
- 2:03:32earliest I might eat is midday okay so
- 2:03:36if you choose to make two your time that
- 2:03:39you I call it opening up your eating
- 2:03:41window you're going to start eating so
- 2:03:42you would go 2 to 12 that's 10 hour
- 2:03:44eating window it's not and we'll we'll
- 2:03:46work on your window here in a moment
- 2:03:48that that's leaving 14 hours of fasting
- 2:03:50um about 15 18 hours you're going to
- 2:03:52start to get the testosterone increase
- 2:03:54so I would say let's can we make it a
- 2:03:57nine or an even an eight hour eating
- 2:03:59window especially because you told me
- 2:04:00your goals and and your fitness goals I
- 2:04:03would think for you an eight- hour
- 2:04:04eating window would be great so you have
- 2:04:06an option you can either not eat when
- 2:04:08you get home from the gym and now we're
- 2:04:10at I'm just so hungry right or you could
- 2:04:13push it back to three before or four you
- 2:04:16said sometimes where you don't where you
- 2:04:17don't eat what would be
- 2:04:20ideal um well for you definitely just
- 2:04:23don't want to eat when it's dark out so
- 2:04:26ideal would be an8 hour eating window
- 2:04:30finishing right now at summer so
- 2:04:32finishing at 9: and then you would work
- 2:04:36back yeah so you would do like 1 to
- 2:04:399 or 12 to 8 or 12 to 8 yeah or 11 till
- 2:04:437: right it's not going to happen I'll
- 2:04:45do I'll do the uh the one till 9 that
- 2:04:47you said yeah cuz I go to the gym often
- 2:04:49quite late in the UK so that means I can
- 2:04:51after the gym and then here's here's a
- 2:04:53little hack is that and and I want to
- 2:04:56make sure that people don't lose sight
- 2:04:58what I just did with you is customize it
- 2:05:00to your lifestyle and I think that's
- 2:05:02really important you just take that
- 2:05:03eating window and you figure out what's
- 2:05:05the best where it fits for you um I I do
- 2:05:08this with people who have families they
- 2:05:10want to sit down and eat dinner so don't
- 2:05:11skip dinner with your kids like sit and
- 2:05:13enjoy that you sound like that that from
- 2:05:16a fitness and work level that's working
- 2:05:19for you so let's let's let's keep it
- 2:05:21like that let's not move that around too
- 2:05:24much but for your fitness goals one day
- 2:05:26a week I'd like to see you elongate your
- 2:05:29fast push your fast like could you go 20
- 2:05:31hours 24 hours of fasting where you're
- 2:05:33just having one meal a day because what
- 2:05:36you're going to do is you're going to
- 2:05:37put your body into a little bit of a
- 2:05:39state of stress where it all the things
- 2:05:41we've talked about are going to start to
- 2:05:42the healing is going to happen at a much
- 2:05:45quicker R you're saying once in a while
- 2:05:47yes I once a week for you once a week so
- 2:05:50once a week go like 24 hours not eating
- 2:05:53that's right or what we call it one meal
- 2:05:54a day wow okay anything else I need to
- 2:05:58know to get
- 2:06:00started um I mean coffee can be your
- 2:06:02friend um uh putting MCT oil in it can
- 2:06:06help you get ketones a little bit
- 2:06:07quicker um so I don't know if you ever
- 2:06:10put oil in your coffee but I have MCT
- 2:06:12oil on my counter at home because I did
- 2:06:14the keto diet yeah so just put it in
- 2:06:15your coffee it'll switch you over and
- 2:06:17it'll get those ketones going a little
- 2:06:19quicker um there is something I wrote
- 2:06:21about in the book called a fasted snack
- 2:06:23and the fasted snack is pure fat bomb um
- 2:06:26they're hard to find I'll it's a fat
- 2:06:28bomb so it's it has no carbs very little
- 2:06:31protein it's all fat so an example of
- 2:06:34one might be an avocado is pretty fat
- 2:06:37dense it has it does have some carbs uh
- 2:06:40but the one I love it's something called
- 2:06:42a keto cup and it's MCT oil with cacao
- 2:06:46butter and some chocolate just pure
- 2:06:47chocolate around wrapped around it it
- 2:06:49looks like a little rees's peanut butter
- 2:06:50cups and I you can do those in your
- 2:06:53fasting window and they'll keep they
- 2:06:55they won't switch you over because
- 2:06:56they're pure fat oh so fasted snacks can
- 2:07:00be really helpful the research shows
- 2:07:02that you get all the benefits of fasting
- 2:07:04but you're popping these little keto
- 2:07:05cups in your mouth all day long what is
- 2:07:07the most important thing we haven't
- 2:07:08talked about in your
- 2:07:11[Music]
- 2:07:14view I you know I think the most
- 2:07:16important thing is for people to realize
- 2:07:19that there's not the perfect path
- 2:07:22there's just your path so take all
- 2:07:26everything we talked about and find the
- 2:07:29threads that resonate with you and put
- 2:07:32those into action and then maybe you
- 2:07:33come back and listen to the podcast
- 2:07:35again and you take another thread but we
- 2:07:37have to stop trying to do our diet like
- 2:07:39everybody else around us there's your
- 2:07:42diet and that's really what I'm trying
- 2:07:44to get is that people build a lifestyle
- 2:07:46that's unique to them n of one be your
- 2:07:49own n of n of one if it's really the
- 2:07:52most beautiful place to
- 2:07:53live n of one yeah you know they say in
- 2:07:57a in a study they always say like the N
- 2:08:00is how many people were in the study and
- 2:08:02so they'll say like n of a hundred n of
- 2:08:04a thousand so n of one is one person was
- 2:08:07in the study be your own study be your
- 2:08:09own be your own study your own
- 2:08:10experiment yeah we have a closing
- 2:08:13tradition on this podcast where the last
- 2:08:15guest asks a question for the next guest
- 2:08:17and the question that's been left in the
- 2:08:18Diary of a CEO for you is
- 2:08:25interesting uh oh it's it's actually not
- 2:08:28that profound or interesting but but
- 2:08:31it's I feel
- 2:08:34like you're the type of person that will
- 2:08:36interpret a deeper meaning than this
- 2:08:38question maybe is alluding to
- 2:08:40but really think about this
- 2:08:43okay how do you take care of
- 2:08:49you that's actually that's a great
- 2:08:53question
- 2:08:55um I could answer that question on a
- 2:08:58health level like I I have a really
- 2:09:01strong Health routine um I get up in the
- 2:09:03morning I meditate I have a hyperbaric
- 2:09:05oxygen chamber at home I pop in my
- 2:09:07chamber um I read like I the first two
- 2:09:10hours of my day are for me first before
- 2:09:13anybody else so I have that part of me
- 2:09:17but I want to give a a a deeper answer
- 2:09:20to that
- 2:09:23um I'm really getting to know myself and
- 2:09:26what my needs are especially as a 53y
- 2:09:28old woman who's moving through menopause
- 2:09:31and really honoring
- 2:09:35that how I care for myself is more
- 2:09:38important than anything else and what I
- 2:09:40mean by that is when I say no to things
- 2:09:43not overscheduling myself uh putting my
- 2:09:46needs before everybody else's these are
- 2:09:49things I haven't done in my life and
- 2:09:51right now I'm really working on caring
- 2:09:53for myself first so that I can pour love
- 2:09:56into the world after that love me first
- 2:10:00why is that
- 2:10:02important I think for me I have been in
- 2:10:06the healing profession for so long I've
- 2:10:08been a mother a wife and I've done
- 2:10:11everything for everybody else and I
- 2:10:14stand here at 53 saying I'm going to
- 2:10:17start doing things for me now and that
- 2:10:19feels that feels like selflove and that
- 2:10:22feels like where health is going to live
- 2:10:24for me and um I haven't I haven't spent
- 2:10:27much time doing that in my life so I'm
- 2:10:29learning to do it for the first time
- 2:10:33now Mindy Dr Mindy pels that is
- 2:10:37beautiful thank you so much thank you so
- 2:10:39much for your wisdom um your remarkable
- 2:10:44engaging captivating Storyteller author
- 2:10:46content creator and a wonderful
- 2:10:48practitioner everything you do you've
- 2:10:49helped so many people with your work
- 2:10:51work and I'm I was so excited when they
- 2:10:53told me I'd be have the honor of having
- 2:10:54a conversation with you today this is
- 2:10:56one of those conversations that
- 2:10:58genuinely will change people's lives and
- 2:11:01isn't that an amazing thing it's really
- 2:11:02cool yeah isn't that an amazing thing
- 2:11:04that we can sit here and all the stuff
- 2:11:06you've shared will have a significant
- 2:11:08impact on one person's life millions of
- 2:11:11people's lives hundreds of thousands of
- 2:11:13people's lives which will mean that they
- 2:11:14live a more fulfilled existence they can
- 2:11:16kiss their and hug their kids for longer
- 2:11:18and that is because of the work you do
- 2:11:20so on behalf of all those people who may
- 2:11:22never get to meet you in person and
- 2:11:23thank you themselves thank you oh thank
- 2:11:25you I I just really appreciate the
- 2:11:27opportunity to be here for the
- 2:11:28thoughtful questions and really allowing
- 2:11:31me to express what I I hope hope does
- 2:11:34exactly that and I think the purpose of
- 2:11:37of living a fulfilled life is touching
- 2:11:39humans you never actually
- 2:11:41meet
- 2:11:43amen quick one some of you will know
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