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0:00Some of these tools I'm going to show
0:01you are really easy to use. Think that a
0:02lot of people sleep on what's available
0:05to you through Google and people just
0:07like get hyperfocused on Chat GBT or
0:09Claude without realizing that these
0:11incredible tools exist. And they have
0:13something called avatars. So when you
0:16set this up for the first time, you scan
0:17your face and then you have a digital
0:20avatar of yourself that you can use for
0:22[music] any video. You can't do that
0:23with Claude. Just learn this stuff and
0:25then bring it to businesses who don't
0:26know how to do it. That feels so easy to
0:28me. For someone that's listening to this
0:30[music] conversation, what would you
0:31have as like the immediate step one?
0:33>> It's really not that hard. I would
0:36actually start with
0:39>> Okay, today's guest is Paul Lipkin.
0:42Before we even get into it, I just have
0:43to come out and say it. I did not expect
0:46to record this episode on this topic.
0:49And the reason that I say that is that a
0:51few weeks ago, I have a call with Paul.
0:53And during that call, he starts to share
0:55with me all of these different tools and
0:57workflows that he's using. And then he
1:00gets to this part where he starts
1:01showing me these AI tools that I've
1:03never really heard anyone talk about.
1:05I'm not talking about Claude or the new
1:07chat GPT feature. I'm talking about
1:10Google suite of AI tools, specifically
1:13Google AI Studio 2.0, Gemini, and Gemini
1:17Notebook. And when he showed me these
1:19workflows, I actually interrupted him on
1:21the call and I told him, I said, "You
1:23know what? Let's just focus the whole
1:25episode around showing people how they
1:27can use those three tools in their
1:30business, their content, and their
1:32life." And so that's what we did. And so
1:34by the end of this conversation, you're
1:36going to learn how to use your Gmail
1:38better. You're going to see how you can
1:40build apps and even create content and
1:43do research in ways that you never
1:45expected. Specifically, what Paul showed
1:47with Gemini Notebook was mindblowing to
1:50me. It literally changed the way that I
1:53do research and preparation for
1:54episodes. And so, you know what? I'm not
1:56going to say anything more. Let's just
1:58get into the conversation. You're
2:00listening to the Callum Johnson show
2:02with Paul Lipky. I've seen so many
2:04videos online about Claude and Chachi
2:07PT, but one of the unique things for you
2:10is that a lot of your most popular
2:12videos are actually about Google's AI
2:14tools.
2:16And so if someone has clicked on this
2:18video and they've never used any of
2:19those tools, what will be the value to
2:22them and in their lives and in their
2:24businesses
2:26of learning about those tools? I think
2:29people are going to be pretty surprised
2:30at what Google has to offer because it
2:33really
2:35um spreads across the entire spectrum.
2:37You can start as a complete beginner
2:39with their tools and get a ton of value
2:41out of them and have a lot of fun using
2:42them too. But even for the more advanced
2:45users, you can do a whole lot with the
2:48Google AI suite of products that they
2:51have. And I think one thing that makes
2:52it so unique is that it does encapsulate
2:55so many different tools that you get
2:57access to through Google AI. It's pretty
2:59neat.
3:00>> Yeah. you know, one of the I think your
3:03background is so interesting, Paul, and
3:05one of the things cuz we spoke before
3:07this and one of the things that you
3:08mentioned um and it's also in your
3:10YouTube bio is you say, "Unlike a lot of
3:13other YouTubers who talk about AI, I'm
3:16not a programmer or a coder. I'm just a
3:19regular guy who likes to use AI in my
3:22personal life and to streamline my
3:24businesses."
3:26And so I'm curious for you to kind of
3:27like take us back in time for a second
3:30and talk to us about being a regular
3:33guy, but also what is that first moment
3:37like that light bulb moment when you use
3:40AI and you see the power of this
3:42technology for the first time?
3:44>> Yeah. Yeah. So um quick background on
3:48me. I had a pretty ordinary kind of uh
3:51career path at first. And I went
3:54actually went to law school as a lawyer
3:55for a while, but I wasn't really happy
3:57doing that. And so I started this side
3:59gig selling some stuff on eBay and it
4:01actually took off. I ended up doing more
4:04making more money from that than being a
4:06lawyer. So I went full-time with that.
4:08Started documenting what I was doing on
4:10YouTube. And so that's where I got
4:12started on YouTube was was telling
4:14people about eBay and Amazon and
4:17Facebook Marketplace and these other
4:18places I was selling. And then somewhere
4:21around 2025 that year, I noticed this
4:24big shift where the AI tools that were
4:27out there. I tried them before and
4:29honestly I wasn't very impressed with
4:30them at all. But in 2025, there was a
4:33big shift and suddenly the tools became
4:35a lot more accessible and helpful for
4:39people like me who doesn't have a
4:41background in coding, isn't a developer,
4:43and just wants help with like at that
4:45time it was just like my emails and my
4:47sales copy that I wanted help with. And
4:49so I think it was probably around spring
4:512025. I signed up for Claude. I paid the
4:54$20 for it and I was blown away. I was
4:58like, "This is incredible what it's able
5:00to do, how it's able to help me organize
5:02all of my projects and write sales copy
5:05for me." I was completely blown away.
5:08And then from that point on, I pretty
5:10much went all in with it because I
5:11really saw like if this is just the
5:13beginning of what we're experiencing,
5:15this has huge, huge potential.
5:17>> Yeah. You know, I I actually think it's
5:19so uh relatable, especially for people
5:22right now. Like I think I think to
5:23myself that a lot of people are going
5:25through that moment right now,
5:27specifically with Claude, of like that
5:30shift of seeing what's possible and how
5:32it can help you not only in your life,
5:34but like business career.
5:38Talk to me specifically about the Google
5:41AI tools and and when did those come
5:43into the picture? Because a lot of
5:45people it's like it starts with chatgpt
5:48or claude and it hasn't even gone past
5:51that like what even made you curious
5:54about understanding what Google was
5:56doing in the AI space.
5:58>> So I do feel like Google was a little
6:00bit late. I think they were kind of
6:02caught off guard by how quickly Chat GBT
6:05and Claude kind of took off. But once
6:08they figured it out, they had a huge
6:10advantage because we already use so many
6:13Google products, search, Gmail,
6:16calendar, and or drive. And what's
6:20awesome about what Google's doing is
6:22that they are bringing AI into the
6:24products that we already use. And so the
6:28integration with AI into them and
6:31between those different products is so
6:33seamless in a way that really no one
6:35else can do it. And so when I saw them
6:38start to roll it out, I got really
6:40excited because I don't want to have to
6:43redo everything I I've set up in my
6:46business, you know, find a new email
6:47provider and set up a new calendar. I
6:50want to use the tools I already love.
6:52And the fact that Google can now
6:53integrate with all that and and connect
6:56it all with AI is pretty incredible. And
6:58I think that's where people are going to
6:59see a lot of value out of it.
7:01>> Yeah. you know, and and it's an
7:03interesting point that you bring up
7:05because Google should naturally have an
7:08advantage in this space. Like we we're
7:10already so aware of them. They're
7:11already so in our lives even without us
7:14really knowing.
7:17Why do you think
7:19because for most people if you look at
7:20the data when it comes to AI the
7:22majority of Americans have used chat GPT
7:26in second in kind of like a smaller way
7:28people have used Claude. Why do you
7:31think that chat GPT and Claude demon
7:35like dominate so much of the
7:37conversation and then when we go to
7:39Gemini or like the Google suite of
7:41tools, it's not as ubiquitous. It's not
7:44as known.
7:45>> Well, I think they are catching up or at
7:47least or at least pulling in more of the
7:49market than they've had in the past. But
7:52I think a lot of it just comes down to
7:54that like first tomarket bias. You know,
7:57the word chat GBT, it's almost
7:59synonymous now with AI. And people say,
8:02"Let me ask chat for that." That's what
8:04I'm hearing young people say now. And
8:06I'm not 100% sure if that applies just
8:08to chat GBT or like all of them. Kind of
8:10like when we say, "Let's xerox
8:12something, right?" But I think it's a
8:14lot of it is that it's just when people
8:16think of AI, they think of chat GBT. But
8:19I think once people realize that there
8:21are other tools and start to test them,
8:22they're going to find one that works
8:24better for them maybe than chat GBT.
8:26Yeah. You know, you know, one of the
8:28things that you mentioned uh earlier,
8:29Paul, you were talking about uh being
8:33like a regular guy and you have this uh
8:36job, you're a lawyer, like you're an
8:38attorney,
8:39>> and then within the space of a year or a
8:42couple of years, you're doing uh like
8:45e-commerce and drop shipping and now
8:47you're doing like content creation
8:49around AI.
8:51I think for a lot of people that are
8:52listening at home, that transition of
8:55going from like a nine-to-five employee
8:59to you're making a full-time living off
9:02the internet and online is like
9:05something that people aspire to. Can you
9:07kind of just map out like what were
9:10those kind of key points in that journey
9:14and then also how quickly it happened?
9:18Was that unexpected to you?
9:21Well, I'll answer that first that last
9:22part first. It was very unexpected. You
9:25know, I just didn't quite see it
9:26happening. But in many ways, I shouldn't
9:28be surprised because it was something
9:31that I'd been seeking for a while and
9:33something I really had my eye on. And I
9:36think I'll just say like very broadly
9:38speaking, if you want to, you know, quit
9:42your job and make money online to have
9:45that freedom to be able to like travel
9:47and not be tied down to one location.
9:50There's always opportunities for that
9:51and I think AI is opening up a ton of
9:54possibilities for that. It's just kind
9:56of being creative and seeing what's
9:58available and taking advantage of that.
10:01And that's what I saw in 2017 when I got
10:03started with with e-commerce.
10:06I tried some other stuff in the past,
10:08some some other e-commerce things. It
10:10didn't work out for me. And I saw some
10:12people doing this thing drop shipping on
10:14eBay and I gave it a shot. And once I
10:17saw that it worked, I was like, "Okay,
10:19I'm going all in with this because, you
10:22know, I don't want to um, you know, play
10:25around with other stuff. Like if I find
10:26something that works, go all in with
10:28it." I think that's part of the success
10:29is just kind of knowing that like when
10:31you see something that works, you got to
10:33go for it 100% because you don't know
10:34how long it's going to work for, right?
10:37So, that was like a very key moment like
10:39when I made my first sale and just
10:40started working a lot more with eBay.
10:43Um, and then certainly starting my
10:45YouTube channel to be able to share and
10:46document what I was doing was really
10:48important because then as I pivoted over
10:51the years, you know, moving to Amazon,
10:53Facebook, Tik Tok, people were following
10:55me and coming with me on that journey.
10:58And now that I've transitioned to uh AI,
11:00people are coming along for that as
11:02well. So, it's pretty cool to see.
11:03>> Yeah. You know, you talk about I and I
11:05think about it even in my own story,
11:07that first moment of validation cuz we
11:10we start out online and you're you're
11:11kind of just trying something, you know,
11:13like you've maybe you've seen someone's
11:14video or you've read something, you've
11:16kind of seen that it's possible, but
11:18until you experience it. And so I'm
11:21curious for you to talk about almost
11:23like that that first moment of of real
11:26validation, like significant validation,
11:29whether it was like a dollar amount that
11:30you were seeing in your bank account,
11:32but like for you when you look back,
11:35what was that moment when you were like,
11:37"Okay, this could actually be a
11:39full-time thing. It's not just like a
11:41fun side hustle or like weekend project.
11:44Like I could actually do this."
11:46>> Okay, I've never shared this before, so
11:48I'm going to share it with you now. you
11:50pulled it out of me. So yeah, so 2017
11:54was the year I was growing that eBay
11:56business and it by the middle of the
11:59year it was doing quite well, but it was
12:01always sort of that feeling of is this
12:02going to last? Like is this thing just
12:04going to topple in a couple of months or
12:07is this thing even really serious? And
12:09then early 2018 I had one month where I
12:14made more in one month than I was making
12:16all year as a lawyer. And that was kind
12:19of like a moment where I was like,
12:21"Yeah, I should quit my job now. This is
12:24this is this is working. There's
12:25something here." And so that's when I
12:28decided to actually quit my job and go
12:30allin with the e-commerce and kind of
12:33have this uh YouTube channel on the side
12:35with it.
12:36>> Yeah. You know, it's um it's interesting
12:38because you mentioned that speaking
12:40today in 2026,
12:43there's even like more of an opportunity
12:45for that route, for that transition from
12:47like 9 to5 to either being like a
12:50soloreneur or like building a business
12:53um specifically because of AI. And I
12:55know that you and I, we were speaking
12:57about this um even before we had the
13:00conversation and like we turned the
13:02cameras on and you said this, you go, "A
13:04lot of people just don't know what they
13:06can do with AI." That's sort of the
13:09biggest roadblock right now that people
13:11know it exists. They know it's useful,
13:14but what do you use it for? That's where
13:17most people are getting stuck with it.
13:20And so Paul, speaking specifically on
13:23these Google tools, because I know we're
13:25going to go through a few of them, can
13:27you just big picture just give people
13:30the background and the context for these
13:33specific tools? So like Gemini, Notebook
13:37LM, the Google AI studios, what can they
13:41use it for?
13:43Okay, so if you're someone who always
13:44has good ideas for the company that you
13:46work for or maybe even for your own
13:48business, I'm going to share something
13:50that you're going to love. And so this
13:52is an episode marketing plan that I
13:54created with Gamma and then I presented
13:56it to our team. And so to give you guys
13:58the context, the reason I created this
14:01presentation was because I recently came
14:03up with a new way that I wanted us to
14:05promote each episode on social media.
14:08And I'm not a designer. And so what I
14:10would usually do is I would take all of
14:11the rough notes that I had for this
14:13strategy. I would try to organize it and
14:15flesh out the ideas on a Google
14:17document. Then I would have to format
14:19the document so that it looks half
14:21decent. And then I would send that
14:22document to my team and walk them
14:25through it step by step in our next
14:27meeting. And that entire process would
14:29take anywhere from a few hours to maybe
14:32even up to half a day of work. But with
14:35Gamma, I was able to just select this
14:37template that they have, paste in all of
14:40my rough bullet point notes, hit
14:42generate, and then get this beautiful
14:45looking presentation in 15 minutes. And
14:48the best part was just how easy it was
14:51to then change the designs and the
14:53images on the presentation. I just click
14:55on the gamma agent here and tell it all
14:57of the changes that I want to make and
14:59it did it for me. And so if you're
15:01listening at home and you want to create
15:03beautiful looking presentations in
15:06minutes, just go to that link in the
15:08description, try out Gamma today. Trust
15:10me, you won't regret it. Thank you to
15:13Gamma for sponsoring this episode. Let's
15:15get back to it.
15:16>> Yeah. Well, first I'll say that is the
15:19value gap right there, right? Because so
15:21many people, businesses, business
15:23owners, they don't know how to use these
15:25tools. And if you can come in and figure
15:28that out, then you can be the person
15:31they go to. Some of these tools I'm
15:33going to show you are really easy to
15:34use, but people don't figure them out.
15:37They're not going to spend the time to
15:38figure them out. And so, you can be that
15:40person for these companies. So, I think
15:42there's actually a really big
15:43opportunity right now. Uh especially for
15:46businesses owned by older people who
15:47just don't think they can figure it out.
15:49But the trick is that you can't let them
15:52know how easy it actually is. Um, yeah.
15:56So, I'm going to show you some some of
15:57these really cool tools. I think you
15:58know when people think about chat GBT,
16:01right? So, Google has their own version
16:03of it. It's called Gemini. That's their
16:05chatbot. So, a lot of stuff that you
16:07know you can do with Chat GBT, you can
16:09do with Gemini as well. But with a
16:13Google AI uh account, which is just your
16:16your Google account, you also get access
16:18to all these other tools. And one of my
16:20favorites is Notebook LM. That's an
16:22incredible tool for research and for
16:26organizing data. And once you sort of
16:29graduate from those tools and want
16:31something a little bit more advanced
16:33that comes with Google as well. They
16:35have something called Google AI Studio
16:37which is used for like building out
16:39apps, building out websites. So there's
16:42a lot you can do with all of these
16:44tools.
16:45>> Yeah. It's actually interesting because
16:47um I was thinking about this on the way
16:49here that before you and I spoke in the
16:52conversation that we had about a week
16:53ago, I wasn't actually fully aware that
16:56all of these tools within Google even
16:58existed. Like I was familiar with Gemini
17:02and we've even seen it recently like
17:04even when you do searches on Google,
17:07it's now using AI. I don't even know if
17:09it's using Gemini, but it's using AI to
17:11give you search results. Um,
17:15can you kind of just speak to even just
17:18for the everyday person that's using G
17:20Suite right now, some of those kind of
17:24AI opportunities almost like the the
17:27hidden abilities that some of these G
17:30Suite tools or G Suite applications now
17:33have using AI and Gemini? Can you speak
17:36to that?
17:37>> Yeah. Yeah. So, Google has put Gemini
17:41everywhere. So search is powered by
17:43Gemini. Um and Gmail. So you go into
17:47Gmail and now at the top the search bar
17:51that is powered by Gemini. Yeah. So
17:53inside of Gmail at the top like there's
17:55search now it's powered by Gemini. And
17:58that's great because I don't know if
18:00you've tried the search inside Gmail in
18:01the past, but it was pretty bad. So now
18:03you can actually ask questions like uh
18:06what time was my is my podcast recording
18:09today? And it's not just going to give
18:11me the email that has the information.
18:13It's actually going to answer it right
18:15there at the top for me. You need help
18:16writing an email, you just open up an
18:19email that you got, hit reply, and it
18:20can help you draft an email. I don't
18:22write emails anymore. I just type into
18:24the little bar at the bottom what I want
18:26to say, like just garbled, and it just
18:29outputs for me a perfectly formatted
18:32email. So, I've gotten really lazy with
18:34my emails because of that. Um, Google
18:37Sheets has some great tools as well to
18:39help you visualize data. It's just
18:41everywhere and it just makes it so much
18:43easier to use it because it's where you
18:47already are.
18:48>> Yeah. You know what? You know, Paul,
18:49because this is like exciting cuz I
18:51think we're going to uh, of course,
18:53we're going to show people that want to
18:55build businesses or solopreneurs some
18:58applications for these tools that they
19:00could be helpful in their workflows, but
19:03even just for everyday usage, I'm like
19:07curious and excited to show people how
19:09they could be getting more uh from their
19:11Gmail, from their Google Drive, from
19:13their Google Sheets. Um, so why don't
19:16you just share your screen and we'll
19:17jump into it. This is Gemini. Yeah, this
19:19is Gemini. So, this is like the chat GBT
19:23for Google. So, if you've used chat GBT,
19:26anything that you use that for, you
19:27know, asking questions, you can come in
19:29here and just ask the questions in here.
19:33What is the weather today? You know,
19:34whatever it is, it's going to behave
19:36very similar to chat GBT. So, if you're
19:40using an AI chatbot already, you're
19:42going to just be able to do the same
19:44thing inside of Gemini. So, one thing
19:46that's unique to Gemini is I can create
19:48music for you. So, you can just kind of
19:51put in here what you want the song to be
19:53about and then it generates a
19:54soundtrack.
19:58[music and singing]
19:59>> So, that's just a quick sample of it.
20:01And you can create like in all these
20:03different styles. So, if I come in here
20:05and click create music, you have like
20:06all these different styles. And, you
20:08know, it's not going to win any awards,
20:09but it's a lot of fun to play around
20:11with, right? You can create images with
20:14it similar to what you do with chat GBT
20:17and it's really good at editing images.
20:19So here I had it create this one for me
20:21and I didn't like that there were people
20:22in the background. So I said here remove
20:24the people from the background. Now we
20:26have the same exact image but without
20:28people in the background. So it's very
20:29good at image generation. It's also very
20:32good at video generation. So oh this is
20:35a where the video goes? Sorry. Yeah. So
20:37I have like a video here and they have
20:39something called avatars. So when you
20:42set this up for the first time, you scan
20:43your face and then you have a digital
20:46avatar of yourself that you can use for
20:48any video.
20:51I have to tell you about Google Gemini.
20:53It's their most capable AI model ever.
20:56It understands text, images, and even
20:58code seamlessly. This is a total game
21:00changer.
21:00>> So pretty good, right? So those are kind
21:02of like some of the unique fun things
21:04you can do with it.
21:04>> Just one quick thing on the video piece
21:06cuz that's very cool. So it scans your
21:08face. That video that you just played,
21:11you never recorded that?
21:13>> No. No. That came from one from one scan
21:17of my face that I did three or two or
21:19three months ago.
21:20>> Interesting. And the and the different
21:21angles cuz it it the the camera shifted.
21:24It was showing different angles of you.
21:25That was also it just came up with that.
21:29>> Yeah. I mean, you can get very specific
21:30with your pumps. This one I literally
21:32just said, make a video about from of
21:35me. that's my avatar's name telling us
21:37about how awesome Google Gemini is.
21:39That's it. But you can get very specific
21:41with it and tell it to like change your
21:43clothes, change the background, and it
21:45can do all that stuff.
21:46>> Interesting. And then when it comes to
21:47your voice, it also has your it has your
21:50voice like saved.
21:52>> Yeah. It's pretty wild, right?
21:55So, when you're setting it up, you're
21:57like moving your face around and you're
21:59also talking to it and so it's capturing
22:02all of that and then duplicating. And
22:03that's totally optional. I know some
22:05people aren't comfortable with that. So,
22:06you don't have to use it.
22:07>> Yeah. But it's one of the things cuz I I
22:08even think about it in like a business
22:10use case. And I think about if you
22:11wanted to do like explainer videos or if
22:14you wanted to do ads, you know, where
22:16you're speaking to something or even
22:17like content like talking head videos
22:20but you didn't have time to film it or
22:22you didn't have the right setup. It's
22:24like you can the the use cases kind of
22:26jump out.
22:27>> Yeah. Yeah. And we're going to get to
22:28that because you were going to we have
22:29some other tools that's going to that
22:30are going to help with that as well.
22:32>> Yeah. Yeah. That's super cool.
22:34Yeah. Um, yeah. So, a lot of cool stuff
22:37with the images and the videos. It's
22:39also really good at creating
22:40infographics where you have text on
22:42images like this. So, those are kind of
22:45the like I wouldn't even call them
22:47basic, but you can come in here and kind
22:49of see just create image, create video,
22:51create music. So, it's right there
22:53available for you.
22:56>> Yeah. You know what? So, so I have I
22:58have two questions. I I'll start with
22:59the first one on the image creation
23:02piece cuz I know Google obviously has
23:04Nano Banana. Is that like just
23:07seamlessly integrated in? Is that what's
23:09creating the images or is this actually
23:11like a natively built feature within
23:15Gemini?
23:16Now this is this is uh the latest Nano
23:19Banana. So right now when we're filming
23:21this, we have Nano Banana 2. So this is
23:23using Nano Banana 2. The uh the other
23:26images we're creating Nano Banana 2. I
23:28lost them. But whatever, wherever they
23:30are, that was using Nano Banana 2. Uh,
23:32so it's built in. You don't have to
23:33worry about like API. You shouldn't just
23:36tell it what image you want to create
23:38and it's going to create it for you.
23:39>> Yeah, that's interesting. You know what,
23:41Paul? Cuz I think this is going to be
23:42really valuable to people is if I just
23:46take myself for a second, right? Cuz I I
23:49use G Suite. Like I have a Gmail, I use
23:51Google Drive, I use Google Sheets, I use
23:53Google documents. But I think that even
23:57I use those every day, but I'm not
23:59really using the AI features within it
24:02at all. If someone and even just for
24:05someone like me,
24:08what would you say is like the the
24:11single almost like first thing to do or
24:13like most useful thing I could do with
24:16using AI within those tools? like what
24:20instantly comes to mind do you think
24:22would be valuable or the most valuable
24:25to people?
24:27>> Yeah, so I mentioned it before, but
24:29honestly the integration with Gmail is
24:31is fantastic. I can't show my Gmail
24:33because it's my Gmail has like all my
24:36personal stuff in there, but it's so so
24:39nice just using it to help you compose
24:41emails. Um, the other thing is because
24:46this is Google, you can come in here and
24:48just ask Gemini, "What are my latest
24:50emails?" And as long as it's the same
24:53account that you use for Gmail, it's
24:56going to be able to pull in your emails.
24:57It can help you answer the emails right
24:59here from the chat. So, all of that's
25:01good. Google Drive has some pretty
25:03interesting stuff as well. This is just
25:04like a quick example. Imagine you're
25:07like a footwear brand or you're looking
25:09to start one and you just wanted to do
25:10some research on the other competition
25:13out there. So, I just asked Gemini to do
25:18some research on what the footwear
25:20market is like from the Gemini app and
25:22it created for me this spreadsheet here
25:24here with all this data on the different
25:27brands, where they're located, the CEOs,
25:29and the company revenue. So, all of
25:32that's brought over into here by Gemini.
25:35And then from here if you want to you
25:38can click on Gemini on the right and
25:40then you can you can ask it to to make
25:43changes here and do things. So I can say
25:45something like uh you know sum it all
25:48up. I don't know. It's like a very silly
25:50example but then it'll sum it all up. Um
25:53you can ask it to make changes to it.
25:55But my favorite tool trying to remember
25:57where it is. It's right
25:59um yeah down here you can click on
26:01create a canvas.
26:03Oh I have this up. That's why. Let me
26:06try it again. Create a canvas
26:10and then Oh yeah, there it is. Sorry
26:11about that. So over here on the right on
26:13the dropdown, it's here. It's called
26:14canvas. And then we can say turn this
26:17into a visual
26:20that I can look at. Something like that.
26:24Um it's going to take a minute, but it's
26:25going to turn all this data into a more
26:27visual dashboard that's easier to look
26:30at. So we got to give it a minute to do
26:32that, though.
26:33>> Yeah. I'm I'm curious for you because
26:35you've been you've been using these
26:37tools for months. Are you getting to the
26:40point now where like even working within
26:42a Google document or working within a
26:45spreadsheet, you're not really doing any
26:47like manual data entry? Like you're not
26:50really just typing things in. You're
26:52just speaking to the AI and it's doing
26:55the work. Like how are you interfacing
26:57with it?
26:58>> Literally speaking to it. Literally
27:00speaking to it. So, I use one of those
27:01like voice dictation apps if you're
27:03familiar with those.
27:04>> Like Whisper Flow. Yeah, I do the same
27:05thing.
27:06>> Whisper Flow is the one I use. And so,
27:08like for Gemini, I'll just come over to
27:11Gemini and you know, they have a voice
27:13dictation button. So, if you don't have
27:15one, you could just click on this button
27:16right here, talk to it, and then it will
27:20send off that prompt and start working
27:21on it. And then inside of Google Drive,
27:24if I start a new document here, then
27:28down here at the bottom, we have write
27:30with Gemini. So I'll tell it, yeah, I'm
27:31putting together an outline for a video
27:34I'm working on. Can you go out and do
27:36the research for me? Pull it in. And so
27:38I have like the first draft ready to go.
27:42And by the way, this is that dashboard I
27:44was talking about. So it took all that
27:45data and just kind of put into this nice
27:47looking dashboard here.
27:48>> Yeah, that's nice.
27:50That's nice. And I guess you could go
27:51back to it and you could make like
27:52changes if you wanted different
27:55>> Yeah, you could just click on view data
27:57here to go back to the data or Yeah, you
27:59just tell it in the chat, you know, I
28:00don't like these colors. I want a
28:02different kind of graph. It will make
28:03all those changes.
28:04>> Yeah. You know, one one more question
28:06because I I know we're going to go to um
28:09Notebook LM is
28:12when you're um that feature within Gmail
28:16cuz I think that's something that people
28:18are going to use like probably straight
28:19away after watching this honestly and
28:22I'm going to use it when you're asking
28:24it. You cuz you mentioned you don't
28:26actually draft emails anymore.
28:28>> It's the it's the AI. Does that mean it
28:31actually has context I guess on like how
28:35you like to write emails, the structure
28:38kind of like your tone of voice, the
28:40language that you use? Like how good is
28:42that piece of it?
28:44Really good. Really good. So now when I
28:47open up my Gmail, again, I really wish I
28:48could show this to you, but when I open
28:50up my Gmail, it actually pre-drafts the
28:54emails for me. Not for all of them, but
28:56for a lot of them. And so I get a lot of
28:59emails from brands who want to like
29:01sponsor videos on my channel and it
29:03understands it. I didn't I never told it
29:06I never told Gemini what my rates are
29:07for videos, but when I open up the
29:10drafts it's in there because I've
29:11already sent emails to other brands with
29:14my rates. So it's already in there. And
29:17uh yeah, so like stuff like that. It's
29:20just it just it learns the more that you
29:23use it
29:23>> and it knows that what from just like
29:26viewing your email inbox or is that
29:28something that you've actually trained
29:29it to do?
29:31>> Let me pop in the Gemini cuz I want to
29:32show you this. So personal intelligence
29:35connects up all of your Google products.
29:38You come into Google uh connected apps
29:39right here. So we have Gmail, Google
29:42Docs, Keep Drive, Calendar, Google
29:45Tasks. So, what that does is it's
29:47pulling in context from all of those
29:50apps. So, if I were to ask chat um tell
29:54me about my or what when is my flight
29:57next month, it's going to look through
30:00Gmail for emails from from uh airlines
30:05and it'll say, "Oh, this is when your
30:07flight is next month." Or if I say, "Put
30:09together an itinerary for the trip I'm
30:12taking next month." It's going to pull
30:13in from multiple Gmail accounts. It's
30:15going to look at my calendar. It's going
30:16to look at maybe I have a Google doc
30:18where I've already started planning out
30:20the trip and it's going to pull all of
30:22that together just sort of magically in
30:25the background.
30:26>> Yeah. You know what, Paul, before we um
30:29It's funny because you mentioned uh like
30:31the the biggest roadblock we we spoke
30:33about this earlier, the biggest
30:34roadblock when it comes to using AI is
30:36people don't know what to use it for.
30:38And it's like there was so many of these
30:41features. I just didn't even really know
30:43that Google could do it and I already am
30:46using G Suite. So, it's just
30:47interesting. You know, one thing before
30:49we go into Notebook LM, um
30:54I know right now with with Claude and
30:57with ChatGpt, we're in a very
30:59interesting time, right? Like, uh Fable
31:03obviously came out recently, got banned,
31:06and then has been released again. And
31:08then even with ChatGpt, uh 5.6 six uh
31:12will be hitting the market soon.
31:14Probably when people have watched this,
31:15it'll probably would have hit the
31:16market. Can you just talk about what
31:19have you seen as the differences
31:22um between like Gemini's models and what
31:26it's capable of versus obviously Fable
31:30seems to have taken things to a new
31:31level and then we'll see what GPT 5.6
31:35does like is it comparable?
31:38>> Yeah, it's a good question. So,
31:41uh, Fable and we don't I don't have
31:44Access 5.6. We're recording this. It's
31:46coming out literally tomorrow. So, I'll
31:48know better tomorrow. But it does seem
31:50like it's going to be like those two are
31:51going to be the the best models in the
31:53world. Better than what Gemini currently
31:56has out. But Google has this tendency to
32:00really cook in the background for a
32:02while when it comes to models. Their
32:04newest model is rumored to come out
32:07soon. I I don't know when it's going to
32:09come out, but the rumors are it's
32:11supposed to be very good and supposed to
32:13be a big jump up. Now, in general
32:16though, what I will say is that if you
32:18start looking on X or even a lot of
32:20other YouTubers, they are going to
32:23obsess over what is the best model out
32:26there. But the truth is for most people
32:30doing knowledge work, so things like
32:32emails, document writing, research, just
32:35everyday tasks, it's not going to make a
32:38huge difference which model you use. You
32:40may not notice a difference at all. So I
32:44like to focus a lot more on the tools
32:47themselves and the capabilities of them
32:49and just which one feels right for you,
32:52which one has the features that you
32:53want. Um, of course they all have their
32:56strengths and weaknesses and I think
32:59that for Gemini, some of those strengths
33:01are image generation is very good. Um,
33:04it's not quite as good as what Chat GPT
33:06has, but it but is still very very good
33:09and especially for creating infographics
33:11like this. It is one of the few tools
33:14that you can generate videos with. You
33:16can't do that with Claude. You can't do
33:18that with Chat GBT anymore, but Gemini
33:20does create videos and it does it very
33:22well. This new model that I showed you
33:24before is excellent. It's very good at
33:26research. It has a huge context window
33:29and I've heard that the new model is
33:31going to have even a double of that
33:33context window. So, it does have a lot
33:35of strengths and and then uh Yeah. And
33:37then just how it integrates with
33:39everything I think is another strength
33:40of it.
33:41>> Yeah. You know what? Just quickly on the
33:43on the context window point because I
33:45think that's actually heavily
33:47underrated. like we don't think about
33:49that. And it's funny because we had a I
33:51had a conversation uh on this show with
33:54uh Matt Wolf a year ago who's like
33:57another creator on YouTube. And this was
34:00in 2025, but at the time he was talking
34:03about like the the massive context
34:05window that Gemini has. and he said that
34:09uh I use Gemini if I need to understand
34:11a massive research paper or a YouTube
34:14keynote or I'll put in a three-hour
34:17transcript that I want broken into
34:19bullet points. Can you talk for a second
34:22from your vantage point some of the use
34:25cases of that massive context window and
34:27the deep research like what's the value
34:30of that to people?
34:32Yeah. So, I think all of those use cases
34:35that you just mentioned are spoton. Um,
34:39it's just anything where you just have
34:41so much data that you have to throw at
34:43it. So, think you're a student and you
34:46just have lots of notes from your
34:49semester that you have to study. You can
34:51dump them all into Gemini or Notebook LM
34:54and it's going it's going to be able to
34:55see all of that and actually use it in a
34:58helpful way for you. Um, I could see a
35:01lot of I know a lot of people in
35:03academia use it. A lot of researchers
35:06use it just because it it because the
35:08context window is so big.
35:10>> Yeah. You know what, Paul, because um
35:14it's funny because I mentioned this in
35:15the beginning. One of the most popular
35:18videos on your channel, I think it's the
35:19second most popular video on your
35:21channel. Nearly half a million people
35:23have watched it is on notebook LM which
35:26would be like so unexpected because I
35:28think a lot of people haven't even heard
35:29of Notebook LM. And so if you take us to
35:32that moment first of all what inspires
35:35you to create that video on Notebook LM
35:40and then why do you believe that it's so
35:42popular?
35:44>> Yeah. Um good question. You know, this
35:48notebook, I first heard about it last
35:51year, maybe fall of 2025,
35:54and I was skeptical of it at first. I
35:57was like, why do we need this when we
35:58already have Gemini, right?
36:00[clears throat] Seems to do a lot of the
36:02same stuff. But then I used it and I was
36:04like, "Oh my gosh, this is really cool.
36:08It's not only an incredibly useful tool,
36:11but it is so fun to use." And I think
36:15that's what really inspired me was not
36:17just the usefulness of it because but it
36:19was I just want to show people this.
36:21This is so much fun to use. It is so
36:24cool. So that's where that video came
36:26from basically.
36:27>> Yeah. You know, if if if someone wanted
36:29to and and let's just get into it. U cuz
36:32I love your reaction to it. If someone
36:34wanted to have that feeling of like,
36:36wow, this is so cool. What's the first
36:39thing that you would have them do when
36:40they open Notebook LM? Okay, so you need
36:44to come into Notebook LM and right here
36:46is this button that says create new
36:48notebook. I already have a bunch of
36:49notebooks in this account, but we're
36:51going to ignore those for a second. You
36:52want to come in here and click on create
36:54notebook. And the first thing it's going
36:56to ask you to do is to add some sources.
37:00This is where Notebook LM is incredibly
37:03powerful because you're going to be able
37:06to upload or put in here sources that
37:09include like any files you want to
37:10upload. You can do that. You can add any
37:13links to websites or YouTube videos. You
37:16can add things from Google Drive or you
37:17can just copy and paste text. And when
37:20you do that, you're going to have all of
37:21your sources over here on the left. You
37:23can see I have YouTube videos, articles
37:25in here, something I've uploaded. And
37:28what makes this so unique is that now we
37:32have created for us an environment here.
37:35We have a chat in the middle. We have
37:37this studio over here on the right. I'll
37:38show you in a second. And this entire
37:41workspace is grounded in these sources.
37:45What that means is that when you first
37:47add these sources, Gemini, the Gemini
37:51inside this notebook is looking at these
37:53website articles and pulling the text
37:55from them. It's looking at these YouTube
37:57videos and pulling the transcripts from
37:59them and it is creating its knowledge
38:03based on that and only on that. So in
38:06this case, this notebook is all about
38:08how to launch and scale an AI automation
38:11agency. I wanted to do some research on
38:13that. So there's so much information on
38:15the web about how to do that. But when I
38:18chat with Gemini here and ask it like
38:20how do I get started, it's not pulling
38:23from the web. It's pulling from these
38:26trusted sources I have over here on the
38:28left. That's what I mean when I say it's
38:30grounded. And that is incredibly
38:34valuable for a lot of different
38:36purposes. A lot of people know that AI
38:39can do this and you know they have to
38:40set it up on their own, but now they
38:42don't have to because Notebook LM can do
38:44it for them. It's it's really really
38:46helpful.
38:46>> Yeah. You know, let's let's let's go
38:48deeper there cuz I think this will be so
38:49valuable for someone listening at home,
38:52which is let's even take that example,
38:54right? someone's watching this and they
38:57want to build like um an AI automation
39:01agency or they want to be like um like
39:03an AI consultant in the way that you
39:05described earlier. I'm curious for you.
39:08So that's like the overarching topic and
39:10they want to use Notebook LM to almost
39:12become like an expert in that.
39:15What is your process or like the steps
39:18that you go through? Because I'm even
39:20thinking about how you're choosing like
39:23how you're identifying and then choosing
39:25the sources that you're then putting in
39:28your notebook. Like is that just a
39:30Google search and then you're pulling
39:31certain websites? Do you have like
39:33specific places that you go to? Like
39:36just take us behind the scenes of how
39:38you're even finding these sources and
39:40building out this notebook.
39:42>> I'm I'm smiling to myself because you
39:44are asking the right questions that most
39:46people don't think to ask, which I love.
39:49So when you're creating a new notebook,
39:51there are multiple ways you can you can
39:54bring in these sources that I showed you
39:56over here on the left. So the sort of
39:58lazy way and I I do use this lazy way
40:01when the topic is not like super
40:05important like I have a notebook here
40:06all about the science of sleep and so
40:09for me I just wanted some general
40:11information about how to sleep better.
40:14So for that, when you're creating this
40:16new notebook, you can use the research
40:18tool right in here. So I can say, how
40:22can I sleep better at night and send
40:26that along and it's actually going out
40:28and finding sources for me. And then
40:31once it finds those, I can approve them
40:33or deny them. So that's like s you see
40:36them all right here. So I can look at
40:38all of them and I can say, okay, I like
40:40this one. You can even open it up and
40:42check the source if you want. And let's
40:44say I don't like that one. So I wouldn't
40:45check that one off. Would check that one
40:47off. But I like the other ones. And then
40:49I can click on import. And those are
40:51being added to my notebook. So that's
40:54one way of doing it. But another way is
40:57I'll come up here. I'll create a new
40:58notebook. And this time you would
41:01actually go out and just put in the
41:03sources here that you actually trust. So
41:06for instance, I have a notebook. Where
41:08is it? right here where I grabbed the
41:11last maybe 15 of your last or 10 of your
41:14last videos and I put them in here
41:17because I want to be able to chat with
41:18this notebook about trending topics on
41:21AI. I kind of want to like stay up to
41:22date on that. So any every time I watch
41:25one of your videos now I throw it in
41:27here and that way in the future I can
41:30ask like what was that topic they were
41:32talking about um about Gemini and then
41:35over it'll pull that up and say oh that
41:37was the podcast with Paul and here is a
41:39link to it if you want to check it out.
41:41Here's what was said about it. And so
41:43with this method we're only putting in
41:45sources that we've already verified that
41:48we already trust. I've already watched
41:49these videos. I already know they're
41:51great. that's why I added them to this
41:53notebook. So, it's kind of however you
41:55want to do it. Certainly, this way where
41:58you verify it first and use sources that
42:01you actually trust is better, but for
42:04some quick stuff, you can just do the
42:06search and it's not a big deal.
42:08>> Yeah, that's fascinating. So, it's kind
42:10of like two ways. It's like one, you can
42:12actually it's natively built into the
42:15tool that it will help identify sources.
42:18you can then verify it and add in the
42:21ones that you want or you could just go
42:23and find each one specifically that you
42:26want and then only reference those. I
42:29think something that's fascinating
42:31though that I didn't clock the first
42:32time maybe you mentioned it is uh the
42:36YouTube videos. So, you're actually
42:38putting in YouTube videos, and I'm
42:41assuming because it's all on Google,
42:43because Google owns YouTube, they have
42:46like the the transcripts or whatever of
42:48these videos.
42:49>> Yep. Yeah. So, I can actually click on
42:51any of these and you see that here's
42:54your video. Here's um I think this is a
42:58transcript down here. And then up here
43:00is a sort of summary of it.
43:03>> Interesting. That's very interesting.
43:05So, is that is the reason that works
43:09kind of just a quick question. Does that
43:11work specifically for YouTube or I could
43:13also I'm assuming it only works for
43:15YouTube. I couldn't go to Instagram and
43:17put in a link or I couldn't go to Tik
43:20Tok or LinkedIn like would that also
43:24work for those platforms or is it
43:26specifically YouTube?
43:27>> You know, to be honest, I'm not 100%
43:29certain. I don't want to give wrong
43:30information. You know, just try it.
43:32Throw it in there. It might work. Um,
43:34I'm not certain about that because I
43:36spend all my time on YouTube, so that's
43:37the one that I always use.
43:39>> Yeah, I'm exactly the same way. I spend
43:41all my time on YouTube. It's like the
43:43new television.
43:45>> Um,
43:46>> okay, great. So, I understand the the
43:50data collection piece and I understand
43:53that the the like value prop for
43:56Notebook LM is the grounding. It's the
43:58fact that you can choose the sources
44:01when it comes to actually like digesting
44:04and consuming that information.
44:07Can you speak about that part of it?
44:10Because there's cool things that you can
44:11do, right, with like PDFs or it can
44:14teach you information or it can talk it
44:16out loud like can you explain what's
44:18possible there?
44:20>> Yeah, absolutely. And I would say that's
44:22this the second value prop of it is how
44:26you can then use that information. Uh
44:28the grounding is the first one like you
44:30said. So there's two sections here that
44:33we haven't covered. Well, we we cover
44:35this one a little bit. This is the chat.
44:37So here you can now chat with that
44:39information. So here I ask it how do I
44:41get started? Super vague question. If I
44:43asked Gemini, how do I get started? It
44:45would say how do you get started with
44:46what? But this is know looking at all
44:49these sources and it knows I want to
44:51start an AI automation agency. So it
44:53gives me a whole breakdown here based on
44:56these sources of how to start an AI
44:58agency. And you can go back and forth
45:00with it asking more questions like help
45:02me draft a personalized cold email
45:05script and you know just chat with it
45:08same way you would Gemini but it's super
45:09focused on this topic. But where I think
45:12it really shines is inside of studio
45:15over here on the right. We have
45:17currently nine different buttons for
45:19generating these different assets. And
45:22these are really cool. I don't know how
45:25else to say it. They're just really cool
45:26and really fun to play with. So, right
45:28here at the top is one of their most
45:30talked about standout features. We have
45:33these audio overviews. I'm just going to
45:35open up the customizer for it. So, when
45:38you generate one of these, it actually
45:41generates what sounds like a podcast
45:44between two hosts. And it's all AI
45:47generated. So I've made one of I made a
45:50bunch of these beforehand because all of
45:51these assets admittedly do take a little
45:53bit to generate. So we don't waste any
45:56time. I just generated one here if you
45:57want to give it a quick listen.
45:58>> So uh what if I told you that starting a
46:02profitable AI agency today like
46:05>> um so yeah it's it sounds super
46:06realistic. It's like two people talking
46:08to each other. I mean that's pretty
46:10amazing. And you know I started to think
46:12about like the possibilities of this,
46:14right?
46:15I think the more you play with Notebook
46:18LM, the more ideas you're going to get
46:20because what if you now create one of
46:23these podcast episodes and you actually
46:25use that somewhere? Maybe put on a
46:27YouTube video, maybe use it for
46:30marketing your business somehow. I think
46:32there's a lot you can do with these that
46:34most people surface level aren't seeing.
46:38>> You know what, Paul? given that you're
46:39um I think about what you do and given
46:41that you're a a business owner,
46:44what cuz you you you marked out like
46:46there's nine of these different ways uh
46:49in the studio. What have you found that
46:51you've been using the most frequently?
46:54Which ones have been the most valuable
46:55to you?
46:57>> Sure. Okay. So, for any sort of thing
47:01that I'm researching like this notebook
47:03about the science of sleep, I love these
47:05audio overviews. I generate these and
47:08now I have the notebook LM app on my
47:10phone. So when I'm driving, I just play
47:13it and now I'm learning about a new
47:14topic. It makes it so easy to learn
47:17these new things. I don't have to be
47:18sitting here in front of my computer to
47:20do that. It's really cool. One of my
47:22other favorite ones are the video
47:25overviews. These are beautiful. So
47:28there's currently three different
47:30versions of them. Let me show you this
47:32one. This is called an explainer video.
47:37Welcome to the explainer. Okay, today
47:39we're unpacking something absolutely
47:41huge, the ultimate blueprint for 2026.
47:44We're talking about going from zero to
47:46owning a highly profitable, low overhead
47:48AI automation agency. If you've been
47:50paying even a little bit of attention to
47:52the business world lately, you know the
47:53AI revolution isn't just coming, it's
47:55already here.
47:57>> Yeah. So, like super well done. Um, so
48:00that's the explainer, but the new one
48:02that I'm really excited for are these
48:05shorts.
48:10>> Yeah. Should I play this one?
48:11>> Yeah.
48:12>> Most people view sleep as just passively
48:14powering down, but it's actually an
48:17intense biological maintenance cycle.
48:19Here is exactly how lack of sleep breaks
48:21your body and how to fix it. First up,
48:24the brains wash cycle.
48:25>> I mean, that's pretty cool. And for
48:27something that's completely free, that's
48:29pretty wild. And this is another one
48:31where I I you know, this is brand new
48:33and I think people are going to take
48:34advantage of this and do some pretty
48:36cool stuff with these shorts.
48:37>> Yeah, that is really cool. That is
48:40really cool. You know what? Um, and this
48:42is an interesting almost like thought
48:43experiment for you because obviously you
48:48started
48:49like we mentioned in the beginning, you
48:52leave your job what about eight years
48:54ago? nine years ago, eight years ago
48:57>> um to like building your own business.
49:03I'm curious for you,
49:05let's just say that we fast forward and
49:08when you were actually leaving your job
49:09was in 2026 and you had this awareness
49:12of these tools. Do you think that the
49:14way I'm curious how you think uh that
49:17would have changed things like just the
49:18way that you would have approached it?
49:21Um, like is there certain things that
49:23you look at even when you're using some
49:25of this stuff now and you're like, "Oh
49:26yeah, for sure I would have been using
49:28that in that in that process of starting
49:30a business or like getting it off the
49:33ground or even what you chose to
49:35eventually do." Like what comes to mind?
49:39>> There's a lot of things that come to
49:40mind. I just my brain just raced through
49:42like 20 different things when you said
49:44that. But, you know, kind of going back
49:46to what I said before, just learn this
49:48stuff and then bring it to businesses
49:50who don't know how to do it. That feels
49:52so easy to me, like such lowhanging
49:54fruit because people aren't going to be
49:56aren't going to spend the time to figure
49:57this out. But then looking more
49:59practically at stuff like this, like I
50:02think a lot of what you have to do as an
50:04entrepreneur is try stuff out and see if
50:06it works. There's so many ideas. So, I
50:09look at these shorts and I'm wondering
50:10to myself, wait a minute, what if I
50:12create one of these shorts and then come
50:14over to Gemini and use this to create an
50:18avatar video of myself talking about the
50:21same topic? Can I put those together and
50:24suddenly have this pipeline where I'm
50:26creating content 20 times faster than a
50:29normal human can? Because I don't
50:31actually have to sit in front of the
50:32camera. I have Gemini making the videos
50:34for me inside of Gemini. and then these
50:38explainers inside of Notebook LM, you
50:41know, I think that scales up at a rate
50:43just couldn't in the past. And will that
50:46work? I'm not 100% sure. But again,
50:47that's part of being an entrepreneur,
50:49trying it out and and seeing what
50:50happens with it. Yeah, that is such an
50:52awesome idea because I even think about
50:55one of the things I've seen on my
50:56Instagram that's performing really well
50:58is when you have uh the video, you
51:00almost have like the split screen with
51:02the video of yourself talking about
51:03something and then like the green screen
51:06like an some sort of animation like
51:08visual B-roll uh on the top section. And
51:11you could see how you could edit those
51:13together using that workflow you just
51:15described, right? where you have the
51:16avatar of yourself in the bottom section
51:19and then like the animation playing on
51:21the top. And to your point, because of
51:23AI, you could create a ton of those in a
51:26day even. Um, yeah, that's pretty
51:30fascinating.
51:31>> Yeah. Or even if it's not like even if
51:34you don't want to use an AI avatar,
51:35well, you can use it for proof of
51:36concept, right? Before you sit down and
51:39spend the time making it yourself, make
51:41it with AI. And if you look at it and
51:43say, "Oh, this wouldn't work." Now you
51:44didn't waste your time recording it.
51:46>> It's such a good point. You know what?
51:48If we even rewind a bit deeper into your
51:52days when you were working like a 9 to5,
51:55is there certain I'm sure to be honest
51:57with notebook LM it feels like there's a
51:59ton. But I'm curious what use cases you
52:03would even see like for someone that's
52:04working in a corporate job or like in a
52:079 to5 like are there certain things that
52:09you see like workflows uh that you're
52:12like okay this could actually be like I
52:14would use this in my dayto-day.
52:16>> Yeah. All right. So you ready for
52:18notebook level two? So this is a
52:22notebook I created for a fake company.
52:25It's called Trailhead Supply Company.
52:27And instead of uploading websites and
52:29YouTube videos as sources, I uploaded
52:32company uh reports. I have a CSV file
52:36that I uploaded with our ad spend, how
52:40our our ads are performing, you know,
52:43our monthly income and revenue and all
52:45that sort of stuff. So all of that's all
52:47I uploaded. That's it. And then from
52:50that I asked it questions like what's
52:53the first question I asked? rank all
52:55five marketing channels from best to
52:57worst and it used that data and gave me
53:01that analysis right here. Then I created
53:04over here this slide deck and you can
53:07see that this is our plan our our
53:10ranking kind of like a an overview of
53:12how the business is doing and where
53:14growth is strong generated by notebook
53:17LM with just a couple of clicks and it's
53:19a really nice looking slide deck. We
53:22have what else we have here? What is
53:25this one? Oh, here's an infographic. So,
53:28it also generates infographics showing
53:30the same information, a kind of audit of
53:33the growth of the company and the the ad
53:36spend and how that's affecting it. And
53:38then finally, we have just a report that
53:40it put together because it can generate
53:41reports. So, if you kind of use this for
53:44your own personal data or your business
53:46data, it unlocks a lot of possibilities.
53:49>> Yeah, that's fascinating. That's so good
53:52cuz you can actually I I didn't even
53:53think about that point. You can upload
53:55your own documents, reports, and then
53:58you could just build things off the back
54:00of that. And so I think about what you
54:02used to do being like a lawyer where you
54:04probably have all of these documents,
54:06court cases, like legal stuff. You could
54:09put it in and then use that to like
54:12generate even like a presentation or
54:14even what consultants do like strategy
54:16consultants where a lot of the times
54:18it's like you're reading through reports
54:20or there's like data and then you want
54:23to create slide decks that you can then
54:24present like it's so even like pitch
54:26decks for investors like the it goes on
54:30and on, doesn't it?
54:31>> It does and it's really good at creating
54:33slide decks. That's one of my favorite
54:35features. Like this is one that it
54:37generated. It generates in all these
54:39different styles that are just really
54:41fun to play around with. Really great
54:43infographics. That's one of the places
54:45it really shines.
54:46>> Yeah. You know what, Paul, before we
54:48move on to uh Google AI Studios, is
54:51there anything we're missing? Is there
54:53anything that you you anything else that
54:54you want to mention in regard to
54:56Notebook LM?
54:57>> You just got to play around with it.
54:59You're going to have so much fun
55:00clicking these buttons, you know,
55:01generating all of these assets inside of
55:04infographics here. For instance, if you
55:06click on this arrow, that's how you
55:08customize them. And check this out. You
55:10can make infographics in all these
55:12different styles. You can make it
55:14professional if you want, or you can
55:15keep it fun. And so, just play around
55:18with this. You can do different aspect
55:19ratios because the more you use this,
55:21the more use cases you're going to find
55:23and the more you're going to realize
55:24that using AI is kind of fun.
55:27>> Yeah. Yeah. No, I need to I'm going to
55:30get on this afterwards. Um,
55:33okay, Paul. The the the final tool that
55:35we we wanted to talk about is actually
55:37the tool that I hear the least about
55:39online, and that's Google AI Studios.
55:43And so, can you just kind of start from
55:46the beginning? We've shown people
55:48Gemini, which is in like G Suite, and
55:51really if you're interacting with
55:52Google, even if you're just searching on
55:54Google, you're using Gemini. We've shown
55:57Notebook LM, which is almost like this
56:00ultimate researching
56:02tool.
56:04Google AI Studios, like how does it fit
56:06into the pie? Like what is it that it
56:08does? Well, like I mentioned in the
56:11beginning, kind of like to bring this
56:13all the way back around, the cool thing
56:15about Google is that and Google AI is
56:18that you can start simple, you know,
56:20just using Gemini and using the basic
56:23features. You can level up in Gemini.
56:25You can use Notebook LM for simple
56:27things or you can level up with it. But
56:29then once you're ready to sort of like
56:30take that next step and you're like, I
56:33want to like tinker more with AI, that's
56:36what Google AI Studio is. So if that
56:40sort of interests you and like playing
56:41around, this is kind of the tool for
56:44you. So it's all the same stuff you can
56:46do in Gemini, but what's nice about
56:48Gemini is that you just ask it to do
56:51something. You can change the model
56:52here, but there's really only three
56:54choices.
56:55but it just works. If you want to kind
56:58of dial it in, that's when you can come
57:00in here and choose the exact model that
57:02you want and even jump in and give it
57:04specific custom system instructions. So,
57:07it's a little bit more technical on that
57:08end.
57:09>> Yeah, you you mentioned it being more
57:11more technical, more custom. Even when I
57:14was uh reading and doing some of the
57:16research uh in anticipation of this
57:19conversation, it was uh saying that
57:22initially Google AI Studios was meant
57:25really for developers. It feels like
57:28speaking to you today the everyday
57:31person could actually use it. From your
57:34experience, is that the case? And then
57:37if so, how would you imagine that an
57:40everyday person would use Google AI
57:42Studios?
57:44>> Yeah. So, I think it definitely is the
57:47case. Um, I think this is one of the
57:49more accessible tools that started as a
57:52developer tool. And I think in
57:54particular, if you're going to be using
57:56this, it's because you're going to play
57:58around with build. So, with build, you
58:00can actually create these apps. And I'll
58:04show you some examples of some of the
58:06apps. very simple ones that I've I've
58:09created. So, I just came in here and
58:11this is, you know, if you've ever heard
58:12the term vibe coding, it's where you
58:15come in here and just literally describe
58:18what app you want to make in plain
58:19English and it will make it for you. So,
58:22here with just a simple prompt, I
58:24generated this app which is a product
58:26description generator. You put in the
58:28name of the product that you're selling.
58:31So, it might be&c headphones for
58:34instance. you click on generate
58:36description. This one's broken, which is
58:39okay because it's easy to fix. Um, you
58:42can just tell it. So, this was a bad
58:44example, so I apologize to that. But the
58:46cool thing about this is that whatever
58:48just happened, I don't even know what
58:49that means. So, let me get let me show
58:51you it again. So, it's like chair
58:53generate. I get this error message,
58:56right? I don't I don't know what
58:57happened here because I'm not a coder.
58:58I've never written a single line of code
59:00in my life. But what's cool about this
59:02is that I can now come over to Gemini
59:04and just say paste in the error and say
59:08this error came up and it's going to fix
59:11it for me. I don't know what it's doing,
59:13but it's fixing it for me. And that's
59:15what's really cool about this. So here's
59:17another one. It's just like a simple
59:19expense tracking app. And here's another
59:22one. Oh, this one's still loading. So
59:24yeah, it just kind of give you an idea
59:25of like kind of the stuff you can make
59:27with it. But I think for for some people
59:30this may still feel too advanced. So I
59:33just want to give people a heads up that
59:34you can actually do this inside of
59:36Gemini. Um so I've created apps in
59:38Gemini. This is Gemini over here. I
59:41created this app where you can put in
59:43any destination. So I could put in like
59:46the pyramids of Egypt for instance.
59:51What are we doing? Egypt. And then you
59:53can like put in the vibe. So I want it
59:54to be like epic adventure. the I want it
59:57to be at midnight. And then I click on
59:59this and it's actually using AI inside
1:00:02the app that I've generated. So there's
1:00:05two places you can generate these. Um
1:00:07the nice thing about creating them
1:00:09inside of Google AI Studio though is
1:00:11that it makes it easier to actually
1:00:13deploy them if you want to get serious
1:00:15and actually like launch this as a real
1:00:18product.
1:00:22um just because it connects e more
1:00:25easily with the tools for actually
1:00:27deploying it. So if we come back over to
1:00:31this one where we generated the image in
1:00:34order to share it there's a couple of
1:00:36options inside of Gemini for sharing
1:00:38apps. If you just click share you get a
1:00:40link and you can share this link with
1:00:42anyone and they can uh instantly access
1:00:45it but it's not behind a a pay wall.
1:00:47They don't need to give you your their
1:00:49email address. So it's it's like there's
1:00:53uh it's you can't monetize this, right?
1:00:56The other option is you can I think I
1:00:58just accidentally closed it. But the
1:01:00other option is you can copy the code
1:01:02and then you have to bring that code
1:01:04over and actually use it somewhere else.
1:01:07But with Google AI Studio, you can build
1:01:09it directly in here and then you can
1:01:10send it over I think to GitHub directly
1:01:12for instance.
1:01:13>> Yeah. Okay. That's that's fascinating.
1:01:17It's like I think one of the things
1:01:18that's been uh crazy to me just in the
1:01:22last year is the ability that anyone
1:01:26listening at home actually has to like
1:01:27build things like build software and
1:01:30apps. And to your point, it's like you
1:01:33haven't written a single line of code in
1:01:37your life and even when the thing
1:01:38breaks, it's like you just tell it that
1:01:40it's broken and it will fix it. I just
1:01:43think it's uh it's like this insane
1:01:46ability that we have in 2026.
1:01:50>> Yeah, it really is. And if you start to
1:01:53think about this and you know when you
1:01:55first start using this, your apps aren't
1:01:57going to be very good. They're going to
1:01:58be like this, like very basic. Um and
1:02:00then the more you use it, the more
1:02:01you're going to start to find like cool
1:02:03use cases for it, like how you can build
1:02:05out entire websites or you can generate
1:02:07apps like this which actually have AI
1:02:10built in. And that starts to get you
1:02:12thinking, okay, I'm a business owner.
1:02:15What tools am I paying for that I can
1:02:18just vibe code an app for free and then
1:02:21use forever for free so I don't have to
1:02:23pay for those apps anymore? And then
1:02:26then it's like, wait a minute, can I do
1:02:28this for other businesses? And if you
1:02:30learn how to vive code decent internal
1:02:33tools and to get them in a way
1:02:36accessible to businesses,
1:02:38they're willing to pay money, especially
1:02:41if it's a lot cheaper than some of the
1:02:43enterprise products out there, which can
1:02:44be extraordinarily expensive.
1:02:47>> Yeah. You know, Paul, just on that on
1:02:49that point of even for business owners
1:02:53that as you get more familiar with uh
1:02:57like these tools like Google AI Studio
1:02:59and start building apps,
1:03:02what to you have you found even in your
1:03:04business and as you've been using this
1:03:06technology,
1:03:09what kind of tools, apps have you built
1:03:12that have actually been valuable, useful
1:03:16like it's gone above just the
1:03:18playground. It's actually like, okay, I
1:03:19actually this has a use case for me.
1:03:22>> Yeah. So, one of the apps I built will
1:03:25generate
1:03:27um well, I can you can choose how many
1:03:28it generates generates multiple
1:03:30thumbnails. So, that uses Nano Banana.
1:03:33Same way that this app is how it's using
1:03:35Nano Banana to actually generate the
1:03:37image that appears in here. It's using
1:03:39Nano Banana to generate six thumbnails I
1:03:41usually have it make for me in different
1:03:43styles. So I can look at them and then
1:03:46choose which one I want to use for my
1:03:47videos and then iterate on it. So
1:03:49something like that is pretty cool. So
1:03:50you know I can I can come into Gemini
1:03:52and say create a thumbnail for me,
1:03:53create a second, create a third, fourth,
1:03:55fifth, sixth. But the app just makes it
1:03:57easier because it will just generate all
1:03:59six at once. So that's been a a pretty
1:04:01nice one. Um and there are tools that
1:04:04you can pay for that do that. But why
1:04:06would you when you could just have an
1:04:08app that you make? It took me probably
1:04:09five minutes to make that app.
1:04:11>> Yeah. You know, the thing that's like
1:04:13even as you're describing it, it's
1:04:15clicking for me. Part of the advantage
1:04:18that Google has is they have so many of
1:04:21these different tools. And so it's like
1:04:24when you want to do image generation,
1:04:26you're pulling from Nano Banana or it's
1:04:28using Gemini or like there's so many
1:04:31things that it has but all in one. And
1:04:34then you mix that in with also the G
1:04:36Suite access, right? which is like oh
1:04:39yeah I wanted to create a PowerPoint in
1:04:41slides or I wanted to create
1:04:42spreadsheets in sheets or I wanted to
1:04:45write a memo in Google documents. So
1:04:47it's like the the just the the breadth
1:04:50of tools that it has allin one feels
1:04:53like kind of like a unique value
1:04:56proposition for Google specifically.
1:04:59It really is. And part of the reason is
1:05:02because they have so much money and so
1:05:04many resources and they've always
1:05:06believe they have this they have this
1:05:08program called Google Labs. And the
1:05:10whole point of Google Labs is to try
1:05:14things and that's how Notebook LM came
1:05:17about because someone just had this idea
1:05:20for creating this system where you can
1:05:23create these notebooks that are grounded
1:05:25and it just started as a little
1:05:27experiment and it took off. people
1:05:28absolutely loved it. Some of the ideas
1:05:30they create with labs go nowhere and
1:05:33others get like absorbed into other
1:05:35products. So it might start out as just
1:05:37like a single app that does something
1:05:39very specific and then they bring that
1:05:40into Gemini. That's how music started
1:05:42for instance and now it's just part of
1:05:44Gemini. And so because of that, they're
1:05:47just always releasing these new tools
1:05:48that do all this crazy stuff. So this is
1:05:52another tool called Flow. This is
1:05:53specifically for image and video
1:05:55generation. Again, you can do this
1:05:57inside of Gemini, but this is really
1:05:59nice because you can have this whole
1:06:01workspace where you have all the images
1:06:03you're working on, all the videos.
1:06:05Here's another one that they do, which
1:06:07is just for music generation. Um, so
1:06:10just tons of tools that they have for
1:06:13different purposes. And the cool thing
1:06:15is that I know it can feel overwhelming
1:06:17because I think they have like over 30
1:06:19of these, but you don't have to use them
1:06:21all, right? You just have to know the
1:06:23the main important ones which I think
1:06:24are Gemini and Notebook LM. And then if
1:06:27you're ready for the extra tinkering,
1:06:28you can go into AI Studio or try out
1:06:30some of these other ones.
1:06:32>> Yeah. You know, one of the things is and
1:06:33and and you'll resonate with this, Paul.
1:06:36I think one of the the principles in in
1:06:38business that you learn pretty early is
1:06:40that of like the zigg when they zag is
1:06:43doing the thing that not everyone else
1:06:44is doing or using the thing that not
1:06:46everyone else is using. And I think back
1:06:48to what we were talking about earlier
1:06:50where everyone for the most part is on
1:06:54either chat GPT or Claude
1:06:58for you just given the like expertise
1:07:02and really just the time that you've
1:07:04spent with Google's AI tools does it
1:07:07feel like you have an edge? cuz a lot of
1:07:10what you've shown me today I didn't even
1:07:13really know was possible specific
1:07:15especially with uh notebook LM I didn't
1:07:19even really know that you could do that
1:07:20and I'm using Claude and chat GPT every
1:07:23day
1:07:25>> yeah um you mean an edge in terms of
1:07:28like my content creation or just in
1:07:30business in general
1:07:31>> just that the fact that you you kind of
1:07:34even in the way that you were using it
1:07:36in your business your content even in
1:07:38your life with the sleep use cases. It
1:07:40feels like it kind of has given you
1:07:42something um that even the other tools
1:07:45haven't.
1:07:46>> Yeah. Yeah. I do feel that way. I think
1:07:48I think that a lot of people sleep on
1:07:50what no pun intended on what you what's
1:07:53available to you through Google. Um and
1:07:57people would just like get hyperfocused
1:07:59on chatbt or claude without realizing
1:08:01that these incredible tools exist. And
1:08:04like look at this one for instance this
1:08:05this music generation. I mean how many
1:08:07people know about this? very few and
1:08:09this is this is a very good music
1:08:11generation uh AI tool and so you know
1:08:15there are possibilities here what can
1:08:17you do with AI music you can go out you
1:08:19know figure that out but not everyone's
1:08:21going to know about this so they're not
1:08:23going to know how to do this and if you
1:08:25can be like one of the people figuring
1:08:27it out that gives you an advantage
1:08:29especially when people don't even know
1:08:30exists
1:08:32>> you know what Paul because I want to um
1:08:36you mentioned some of the apps and I I
1:08:38think that the the vibe coding and the
1:08:41ability to build anything
1:08:45will be one of the most valuable
1:08:46takeaways that someone would take from
1:08:48watching this conversation
1:08:51for some of those apps that you've built
1:08:53because it really starts with like the
1:08:55prompt and what you know what you
1:08:57instructed the AI to do. Can you just
1:09:00walk people through from like the step
1:09:02one how you even thought about
1:09:05prompting, describing, outlining
1:09:09to Google AI Studio
1:09:12what exactly you needed so that it could
1:09:14then build the app that you wanted cuz I
1:09:17can see that being a frustrating
1:09:18experience for people. It's like they
1:09:20think they're being clear but they're
1:09:22not getting the output that they want.
1:09:25>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Good question. So,
1:09:27I'll show you these example because I
1:09:29already have these ones pulled up inside
1:09:30of Gemini. Um, you know, the term is
1:09:34called vibe coding for a reason, and
1:09:36it's because what you're describing to
1:09:38the AI is the vibe. You of course want
1:09:42to explain what you want the app to do.
1:09:43So, this is an app that's that's just a
1:09:46game. So, it's like an arcade where you
1:09:48can actually play three different games
1:09:49in here. And you can just describe the
1:09:53what you want it to do. So, I said I
1:09:54wanted a arcade style system with three
1:09:57different games, but then you wanted to
1:09:59describe the vibe of it. Like, I want it
1:10:01to feel very retro. I wanted like
1:10:03someone playing it to feel like they're
1:10:04back in the 80s playing this game on
1:10:07like an old system. Um, so that's I
1:10:11think very important to describe those
1:10:12vibes. And then I also think it's
1:10:14important to give it um what's the word
1:10:18I'm looking for? Uh examples. So, if you
1:10:21see something out there that you like,
1:10:23like a style, so if someone else posted
1:10:25this and you're like, I really like that
1:10:26style, take a screenshot of it and give
1:10:28it to Google AS Studio or Gemini and
1:10:30say, I really like this style. I don't
1:10:33want to create this same app, but I want
1:10:34to use this style in this other app that
1:10:37does this other thing. It's really good
1:10:39at looking at references like that when
1:10:41building out what you need. But the
1:10:43other important thing that people get
1:10:45wrong when it comes to vibe coding these
1:10:48different apps is that they try to give
1:10:49it too much at once. And this is a
1:10:52little bit of an actually there's a
1:10:53better example of it over here where I
1:10:56created this sort of note takingaking
1:10:58system and there's just too much going
1:11:00on. And for the first for the first run,
1:11:04the first thing you should do is sort of
1:11:07like the the minimal viable product. I'm
1:11:10wanting to create a note-taking system.
1:11:12So instead of doing all this stuff, I
1:11:14should have just had it create for me
1:11:16this where I just create notes in here
1:11:18and that's it. And then once I verified
1:11:20that worked and I like the aesthetic of
1:11:22it, then we can iterate on it and add an
1:11:25inbox and the interactive graph and the
1:11:27daily AI synthesis because if you try to
1:11:31do too much at once, something's going
1:11:32to break. You try to fix that one thing,
1:11:34then you realize something else doesn't
1:11:36work or it breaks something else and it
1:11:38can get frustrating. So starting small
1:11:40and having like incremental changes is a
1:11:43really smart way to get the app to work
1:11:47every step of the way and so the final
1:11:49product is much better.
1:11:50>> Yeah. You know, if I was going to
1:11:52distill it and and you let me know if
1:11:54I'm correct in this pool, it sounds like
1:11:56there's three parts to like the perfect
1:11:59prompt in terms of building apps here.
1:12:01So it starts with like what is it that
1:12:03you want it to do and you focus on like
1:12:06one core use case which in this case is
1:12:09like I just want it to be a note taker
1:12:11or I just want it to be like a note it
1:12:13gathers notes like that's the main use
1:12:15case what it does then you the second
1:12:17part is you have uh the vibe like here's
1:12:20how I want it to feel here's how it kind
1:12:22of looks here's kind of like the and and
1:12:25then that moves us on to the third part
1:12:26which is the style which is where you're
1:12:28adding like screenshots of inspiration
1:12:31so it can get the exact look. Um, you're
1:12:34using words like I want this retro style
1:12:36or like uh like this minimalist like
1:12:38very simplistic style,
1:12:41cartoon style I could imagine as well.
1:12:44That seems like kind of the three-part
1:12:46process. It's like what does it do and
1:12:49then vibe? What's the vibe of it? Then
1:12:51what is the style? And that will kind of
1:12:53give you your first uh like great
1:12:56output.
1:12:57>> Yeah, exactly. I think you nailed it.
1:12:59Sweet. Nice. You know what? Um
1:13:04Paul, once uh before we get out of here
1:13:09and and it's funny cuz you and I were
1:13:10actually um we were speaking about this
1:13:13before, which I think when it comes to
1:13:17videos like this, it's so easy to watch
1:13:19it and get inspired and come up with all
1:13:21of these ideas and then the action never
1:13:24happens. And so I'm curious from you
1:13:28from your vantage point as someone that
1:13:30made that
1:13:32both you made that transition from like
1:13:34working a 9 to5 to now
1:13:38being online and having your own
1:13:40business.
1:13:42For someone that's listening to this
1:13:43conversation and they enjoyed this
1:13:45conversation,
1:13:47what would you have as like the
1:13:48immediate step one? Like the thing that
1:13:50they should go and do immediately after
1:13:53listening to this conversation so that
1:13:55they can take action.
1:13:58>> Yeah, it's really not that hard. My my
1:14:01tip for you and that's just to go out
1:14:03and start playing with these tools. Have
1:14:06fun with them, seeing what they can do.
1:14:09I would actually start with Notebook LM,
1:14:11especially if you haven't used it
1:14:12already, because you can come in here
1:14:14and just clicking on all these different
1:14:16buttons on the right is just a lot of
1:14:18fun. You're going to start to get an
1:14:20idea of what you can make with this, the
1:14:22different types of in infographics and
1:14:23the different styles because the value
1:14:27that you're going to have is
1:14:30understanding what these tools can do
1:14:32when other people don't. And the only
1:14:34way you're going to get that experience
1:14:35is just coming in here and playing with
1:14:37them. Yeah. You know, you even um you
1:14:41said this and I wanted you to elaborate
1:14:43on it because I think it's so freaking
1:14:45good. You said, "I always encourage
1:14:48people to just try to do everything with
1:14:51AI just for 3 days. Take everything that
1:14:54you normally do on the computer, then
1:14:57try and have AI do it." Can can you just
1:15:00share with people why did you say that?
1:15:04Yeah, it it's a really good exercise in
1:15:07forcing yourself to see what the limits
1:15:10are of the tools that you use because I
1:15:14think so many times people are stuck
1:15:17with that question that we raised
1:15:19before. What can you do with AI? What
1:15:22are the workflows? And a lot of people
1:15:27don't know that AI is capable of much
1:15:30more than they think if they just spend
1:15:33the time to learn how to do it. So the
1:15:35first time that okay, let's say it's
1:15:38email. The first time you come into
1:15:40Gemini and you're like, can Gemini help
1:15:42me with my emails? I don't know. You
1:15:45come in here and you ask Gemini, can you
1:15:47help me with my emails? It might say no.
1:15:48Okay, now you know. But then you ask it,
1:15:51how can AI help me with my emails? And
1:15:54then it'll probably tell you go into
1:15:55Gmail and it will actually have a a
1:15:58message a the box down there where you
1:16:00can have it right for you or you know
1:16:03this was a silly example because Gemini
1:16:04can help you with your emails but that's
1:16:06what it'll tell you. So it's all about
1:16:09just kind of trying really hard and the
1:16:11first time that you do it might take you
1:16:13a long time because it feels clunky
1:16:15because you're not familiar with these
1:16:16tools but then the more you use it
1:16:18you're like hey this is speeding up my
1:16:19workflows. I'm able to get through my
1:16:21emails twice as fast as I used to
1:16:23because now I understand how that works.
1:16:26And now you might be thinking, okay,
1:16:29what if I teach this to other people?
1:16:30What if I go into businesses and help
1:16:33them streamline the processes they have
1:16:36using AI? Well, that's a valuable skill.
1:16:39And it's all because you took the time
1:16:40to learn how to do it um when no one
1:16:43else was taking that time.
1:16:45>> Yeah. You know what? To your point,
1:16:47Paul, I think it's like a it's really
1:16:49like a mindset switch because we're so
1:16:52used to just doing things like we're so
1:16:54used to manually doing all of the things
1:16:56ourselves of like writing the emails or
1:16:59writing the memo or gathering the data
1:17:02and putting it in the spreadsheet or
1:17:04building the slides manually ourselves.
1:17:07It's actually like a mindset switch to
1:17:08be like, "Oh, no. technology can
1:17:10actually do it for me in a very custom
1:17:15way. And and and where my mind goes, I
1:17:18think about what you mentioned of like
1:17:19saving the time.
1:17:21And so, can you even just speak to that
1:17:25portion for you, which is like the value
1:17:29in your life in like your personal
1:17:33experience of being able to use AI in
1:17:36the way that you are? Like what is it
1:17:38that you've seen? I even think about the
1:17:39freedom that you mentioned in the
1:17:40beginning.
1:17:43>> Yeah. So AI touches everything I do now
1:17:47because I I did that experiment and I do
1:17:49it every few weeks because the models
1:17:51and the tools are getting better and
1:17:52better. And so now my I wake up and I
1:17:56get a report from Gemini every morning.
1:17:58See it over here on the left it says
1:17:59daily brief. Again, unfortunately I
1:18:01can't click on this because it'll
1:18:02actually like say what's on my calendar.
1:18:03You know I have personal stuff in my
1:18:05calendar, personal emails. But this will
1:18:07give me a breakdown of my entire day and
1:18:09let me know what's going on for the day.
1:18:12So mentally I'm in the right space. I go
1:18:15into Gmail, I already have drafts of
1:18:17emails in there. I can quickly reply to
1:18:20everything. It's auto sorting them. Um
1:18:24I, you know, have research I have for my
1:18:27videos and the outlines. I have Google
1:18:29Drive outline those videos for me. So
1:18:32it's just like such a timesaver. You
1:18:35know, it's not replacing me. I'm still
1:18:36in the loop every step of the way. It's
1:18:38not sending out emails for me, but it's
1:18:40speeding up the things that I already
1:18:42do. But the only reason it's doing that
1:18:44is because I asked it, can you do this?
1:18:47How can we do this faster? And I figured
1:18:50those things out. Yeah. You know what,
1:18:52Paul, before we get out of here,
1:18:55when you think to the to the future, and
1:18:57I'm just curious from your vantage
1:18:58point, given the time that you spend
1:19:00with this technology, the people that
1:19:02you speak to, um even the people that
1:19:05reach out to you that watch your videos,
1:19:08where do you think the future of this is
1:19:11going? Because it it can already do so
1:19:13much. And and I'm curious to know is
1:19:16there something where you're like I
1:19:18actually think that a year from now, two
1:19:21years from now,
1:19:23we're going to be in this position like
1:19:25kind of share that future or what what
1:19:27you see.
1:19:30There's so many directions I can go with
1:19:33that. You know, I think that one of the
1:19:36things that excites me is being able to
1:19:38pick up my phone and just pressing a
1:19:40button and speaking to Gemini or
1:19:42whatever tool it is I want to use and
1:19:44just saying do this, do that, speaking
1:19:47to it live, saying what emails did I get
1:19:49today, you know, as I'm out for my walk
1:19:52and it's telling me the emails and it's
1:19:54saying I already drafted these replies.
1:19:56Do you want me to send them? Say yes.
1:19:58and all that's just kind of being done.
1:20:00Like really having that feeling that I
1:20:02have a personal assistant that is
1:20:05humanlike to talk to and I think that is
1:20:08coming. There's already some tools like
1:20:09that in beta that we've seen previews of
1:20:14and so that's kind of one things that
1:20:15really excites me.
1:20:17>> Yeah. It's like Jarvis from Iron Man.
1:20:20>> Exactly. Exact. That's what I want.
1:20:22>> Yeah. That's awesome. Paul, let people
1:20:24know like where they can uh where they
1:20:27can find you.
1:20:29>> I'm all in on YouTube. So, if you want
1:20:31to connect with me, just check out my
1:20:33YouTube channel. Just my name, Paul J.
1:20:35Lipsky. Subscribe, leave a comment. I
1:20:37reply to every single comment. Um, so
1:20:41yeah, that's the best place to find me.
1:20:43>> Paul, you've been amazing, mate. This
1:20:44has been awesome.
1:20:46>> Yeah, it's been a lot of fun. Thank you
1:20:47for having me on. So if you enjoyed this
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