THE LIZZIE BORDEN CASE || Our Bizarre & Unusual World Ep:37 — Transcript

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1. 0:00hello everyone and welcome back to
2. 0:02another episode of our bizarre and
3. 0:04unusual world today I'm going to be
4. 0:06covering a case that has been highly
5. 0:08requested today we'll be talking about
6. 0:11the Lizzie Borden case
7. 0:23so let's start with the who who exactly
8. 0:25does this case circle around and that is
9. 0:28the Borden family although this case
10. 0:31heavily focuses on Lizzie Borden
11. 0:34specifically who I may or may not be
12. 0:38related to through the crazy twists and
13. 0:41turns of family tree so what about the
14. 0:44win and aware of this case this case
15. 0:47takes place in the summer of 1892 in
16. 0:49Fall River Massachusetts the crime
17. 0:52itself took place on August 4th 1892 so
18. 0:57what is this case all about it's a very
19. 0:59popular name but maybe you don't know
20. 1:02what exactly this case entails so with
21. 1:05the Borden family consisted of Andrew
22. 1:07Borden his second wife Abby Borden
23. 1:09Andrews two daughters Lizzie Borden and
24. 1:12Emma Borden
25. 1:13within their household they also had a
26. 1:14maid named Maggie Sullivan living with
27. 1:16them and on the date of this crime a man
28. 1:20named John Morris was also visiting from
29. 1:22out of town and staying in their guest
30. 1:23bedroom though he was Andrew Borden's
31. 1:25first wife's brother so basically
32. 1:27Lizzie's uncle the Borden family was
33. 1:30considered to be very wealthy during
34. 1:32this time but they didn't really show it
35. 1:34Andrew Borden insisted that they live a
36. 1:37very normal life and with nothing to
37. 1:39lavish and while the girls kind of
38. 1:42didn't like this that's just how he
39. 1:43wanted his house to run his first wife
40. 1:47did pass away and then that is when he
41. 1:49married his second wife Abby Borden and
42. 1:52she would become the two girls
43. 1:53stepmother but it would kind of seem
44. 1:55like they did not have a good
45. 1:57relationship with their stepmother as I
46. 1:59said his two daughters Lizzie and Emma
47. 2:01really didn't like how he spent his
48. 2:04wealth for example Andrew Borden bought
49. 2:06his new wife's sister a home but refused
50. 2:09to buy his daughters a home which did
51. 2:12not sit well with them obviously and at
52. 2:15one point after arguments and fights
53. 2:17regarding these things they actually
54. 2:19stopped calling her mom or stepmom and
55. 2:21they just referred to his new wife as
56. 2:24mrs. Borden now the two daughters were
57. 2:27older before the time
58. 2:30you could say Emma was 41 at the time of
59. 2:32the crime and Lizzie was 32 both of them
60. 2:35were unmarried and still living in their
61. 2:37father's home so jumping to the day of
62. 2:40the crime
63. 2:41August 4th 1892 Lizzie Borden claims
64. 2:44that she was out back in the barn
65. 2:46organizing some different fishing
66. 2:48supplies she said when she came back to
67. 2:50the house she noted that the screen door
68. 2:52was unlocked and when she came inside
69. 2:54that is when she discovered her father's
70. 2:56brutal murder she found his body it is
71. 3:00suggested that he wasn't feeling well
72. 3:02that day so he went to lie down kind of
73. 3:04like in the study and that is where he
74. 3:07was attacked because he was sleeping it
75. 3:09appeared that he did not put up much of
76. 3:11a fight so the investigation showed that
77. 3:14he had been hit with the blunt end of
78. 3:16what they assumed was maybe an axe about
79. 3:1811 times in his head although I'm not
80. 3:22sure how they could really tell exactly
81. 3:24how many times this guy was hit in the
82. 3:26head because the scene was so brutal so
83. 3:29gory it's hard to make ends meet of
84. 3:32anything so the fact that they knew it
85. 3:34was 11 I don't know what type of science
86. 3:36that was but his head was really really
87. 3:40messed up this kind of led investigators
88. 3:42to believe that this crime was a crime
89. 3:45of passion and not opportunity now
90. 3:48supposedly during this time the maid
91. 3:51Maggie had gone upstairs to her room to
92. 3:53take a nap and she claims she didn't
93. 3:55hear anything until she heard Lizzie
94. 3:57come in and start screaming like come
95. 3:59downstairs someone has that father is
96. 4:02dead someone has come in and killed him
97. 4:04so Maggie came downstairs and that's
98. 4:07where she found Lizzie in a clean blue
99. 4:09dress and the body of Andrew it was at
100. 4:12that point that Lizzie suggested and
101. 4:14like pretty much made her go like down
102. 4:16the way across the street to a doctor's
103. 4:18house that lived nearby so Maggie did
104. 4:21leave and came back with a neighbor it
105. 4:23was at that point that Lizzie suggested
106. 4:25that she assumed or she thought that her
107. 4:27stepmother was upstairs and maybe they
108. 4:29should go and check on her during this
109. 4:32craziness so the pair did as Lesley said
110. 4:35and that is unfortunately when they
111. 4:37found the second body Abby Borden was
112. 4:39found facedown in the guest room once
113. 4:41again it was a very brutal
114. 4:43Gouri seen they estimate she had been
115. 4:46hit in the head about 18 times so Andrew
116. 4:51and Abby Borden were both murdered
117. 4:53brutally in their own home so why would
118. 4:57anyone want to kill them there are a few
119. 4:59suspects within this case but none are
120. 5:01as popular as Lizzie Borden I mean most
121. 5:04people refer to this case as the Lizzie
122. 5:06Borden case not the murder of Andrew and
123. 5:08Abby Borden no they say it's the Lizzie
124. 5:10Borden case so she was obviously a prime
125. 5:13suspect throughout all of this there are
126. 5:17a few things working against Lizzie when
127. 5:19she made her statements to the
128. 5:20investigators she was kind of all over
129. 5:22the place you could say with her answers
130. 5:24when looking further into her
131. 5:25whereabouts they found that the barn
132. 5:27attic that she had claimed to be in
133. 5:29there was a layer of dust on the floor
134. 5:31and there were no footprints so they
135. 5:32didn't think she had actually been
136. 5:33upstairs in that barn section and the
137. 5:37heat was so intense during that time
138. 5:38they don't think that she could have
139. 5:40been up there that long like she claimed
140. 5:42some people started to suggest that
141. 5:44Lizzie actually had a very hostile
142. 5:46relationship with both her father and
143. 5:48her stepmother and so the target kind of
144. 5:51got pointed toward Lizzie now her sister
145. 5:53Emma was actually out of town during
146. 5:56this crime so she wasn't really on the
147. 5:58police radar whatsoever it was all
148. 6:00focused on Lizzie Borden rumors
149. 6:03obviously flew that Lizzie killed them
150. 6:05to get the wealth get the money because
151. 6:08it turns out her father left all of
152. 6:11everything to her and her sister
153. 6:13although Lizzie claims that she had no
154. 6:15idea there was any sort of will and she
155. 6:17didn't know that her sister and her
156. 6:19would end up with all of his money now
157. 6:22on August 9th Lizzie was arrested the
158. 6:24judge pretty much said yeah she's
159. 6:26probably guilty so let's just take her
160. 6:27to trial the trial did not start until
161. 6:30June 5th in 1893 so Lizzie spent like
162. 6:33ten months in jail waiting for this
163. 6:35trial and there was no evidence it was
164. 6:39just rumor and speculation they had no
165. 6:41evidence against Lizzie Borden they had
166. 6:44found like a broken-off hatchet in the
167. 6:46basement of the home that they thought
168. 6:48maybe could have been the murder weapon
169. 6:49but there was no blood no fingerprints
170. 6:51nothing that was able to connect it to
171. 6:54the crime so that was pretty much just
172. 6:56missed so this trial was big news you
173. 6:59know it was such a brutal murder that
174. 7:02everyone was talking about this Lizzie
175. 7:04Borden trial and everything and the
176. 7:06prosecutor oddly enough I don't really
177. 7:08understand decided to bring the skulls
178. 7:11of Andrew and Abby Borden to the trial
179. 7:14and instead of just using them as
180. 7:16evidence he accidentally dropped them on
181. 7:19the ground and they like rolled out on
182. 7:21the table in the floor or whatever and
183. 7:22it caused quite the scene and Lizzie
184. 7:25actually fainted at the sight of her
185. 7:28father and stepmother
186. 7:29bashed in skulls sitting there on the
187. 7:32table there was a few witnesses that
188. 7:34testified during the trial one was a
189. 7:36family friend who claimed that Lizzie
190. 7:39had been burning a blue dress the day
191. 7:41after the crime took place
192. 7:43although Maggie the maid said that
193. 7:46Lizzie had been wearing a clean blue
194. 7:48dress so it couldn't have been the same
195. 7:50dress is kind of the argument there so
196. 7:53that kind of led people to debate if
197. 7:55Lizzie could have murdered her parents
198. 7:58hid the weapon and switched dresses
199. 8:00within the time period before before the
200. 8:03maid came downstairs or anybody else
201. 8:05came home which I guess is possible
202. 8:08although those dresses back in the day
203. 8:10took forever to put on so I don't know
204. 8:12how realistic and that is another
205. 8:14witness during this trial was actually a
206. 8:16local pharmacist now this man claimed
207. 8:18that Lizzie tried to buy a specific type
208. 8:20of poison from him the day before the
209. 8:23murders but he said if she didn't have
210. 8:25like a medical need for it then he could
211. 8:28not give it to her that's very
212. 8:29interesting information although it was
213. 8:32eventually dismissed within this trial
214. 8:34so obviously another big part to this
215. 8:36case in this trial was the first
216. 8:39interview that the investigators did
217. 8:41with Lizzie Borden she was acting very
218. 8:42weird her answers really make sense she
219. 8:45was talking in circles and it kind of
220. 8:47made her the prime suspect oh all of
221. 8:50that interview had to be thrown out
222. 8:52because of two reasons Lizzie did not
223. 8:55have a lawyer present and none of the
224. 8:57investigators told her that she had the
225. 8:59right to remain silent
226. 9:01so they throughout that whole interview
227. 9:04which was pretty much the only evidence
228. 9:05they had going was that she was acting
229. 9:08weird after the murders which
230. 9:09could be from a lot of things I mean she
231. 9:12walked in and saw her dad's smashed in
232. 9:14body and her stepmother was murdered
233. 9:16it doesn't necessarily make her guilty
234. 9:19but if she was they had no evidence
235. 9:21going for them they actually had three
236. 9:24different judges decide that those
237. 9:26statements that Lizzie had made could
238. 9:28not be used in court during this trial
239. 9:30when all was said and done with this
240. 9:32trial Lizzie Borden was found not guilty
241. 9:34which is so surprising to me because
242. 9:37it's such a popular case in name I had
243. 9:40assumed that she did it of course and
244. 9:43she was convicted but know doing this
245. 9:46research they didn't really have any
246. 9:47evidence for her
247. 9:48there was nothing necessarily saying
248. 9:50that yes she for sure committed this
249. 9:53crime so what about the other suspects
250. 9:56if it wasn't Lizzie who could have
251. 9:57killed them another suspect was John
252. 10:00Moores the uncle that was staying with
253. 10:02them a recent book actually suggested
254. 10:04him as a suspect so odd timing he was
255. 10:07not seen during the timeline of these
256. 10:09murders and it ended up that his alibi
257. 10:11didn't hold up whatsoever mrs. Borden's
258. 10:14body was also found in the guest room
259. 10:16where he had been staying Andrew Borden
260. 10:19and John did have a business arrangement
261. 10:21together but their business was not
262. 10:23doing good so a lot of people suggest
263. 10:25that maybe John was jealous of the
264. 10:28Borden riches they still had wealth even
265. 10:30though his business was failing so was
266. 10:32it something like that passion of crime
267. 10:35that made him kill them and did he use a
268. 10:38meat cleaver instead of an axe because
269. 10:40John was a butcher so definitely
270. 10:43interesting points would make sense why
271. 10:46he could have been another suspect but
272. 10:48obviously I guess they didn't have
273. 10:49enough on him because he was never
274. 10:51convicted of anything either another
275. 10:53suspect for this case is Maggie - made
276. 10:56several people don't believe that she
277. 10:58could have been upstairs not even fully
278. 11:00taking a nap and not here two brutal
279. 11:03murders within this home like she had to
280. 11:07have heard something so was she in on it
281. 11:09or was she really just in that dead of a
282. 11:11sleep that she didn't hear two people
283. 11:13being murdered
284. 11:14so another theory actually suggests that
285. 11:16Lizzie and
286. 11:17Maggie committed this crime together I
287. 11:20mean think about it they did kind of
288. 11:22provide each other with alibis
289. 11:24during this crime period and perhaps you
290. 11:28know if you help me do this I'll give
291. 11:30you a split of the money or something to
292. 11:32that nature some people even suggest
293. 11:34maybe they were in some sort of
294. 11:36relationship there's no evidence for
295. 11:38that but that's popular in a lot of fan
296. 11:41theories and entertainment purposes with
297. 11:43this case if you will along with this it
298. 11:46suggests that the pair potentially
299. 11:49murdered the two naked and then wash off
300. 11:52the blood and then switched into a clean
301. 11:55dress and maybe that's how they were
302. 11:57able to hide the evidence or there was
303. 11:59no bloody clothing or anything found
304. 12:01which is interesting that's another one
305. 12:03that's popular in entertainment I think
306. 12:05that there's been a couple different
307. 12:06movies and shows and everything that
308. 12:08depict Lizzie Borden killing her parents
309. 12:11naked but yeah the two sisters Lizzie
310. 12:14Borden and Emma Borden lived out their
311. 12:16life they moved to a much nicer house in
312. 12:19a much nicer part of town than their
313. 12:21father would have liked them to and I
314. 12:23just lived out their life the two murder
315. 12:26cases the Borden murders Abby Borden and
316. 12:28Andrew Borden their case is still
317. 12:30unsolved we don't know who killed them
318. 12:32lots and lots of people do think that
319. 12:35Lizzie had something to do with it that
320. 12:37it was her or her and Maggie but she had
321. 12:40something to do with it was it mean was
322. 12:42it just a stranger off the streets what
323. 12:44did this couple do to deserve such a
324. 12:47hoot hole an unfortunate murder so how
325. 12:51how is this case seen today I've
326. 12:53mentioned there's a lot of fan theories
327. 12:54and the case is very popular by name the
328. 12:58Lizzie Borden case and their house the
329. 13:01Borden house is actually a
330. 13:02bed-and-breakfast now that you can go
331. 13:04and stay at they will give you the
332. 13:05history of everything I mean there's
333. 13:07pictures like crime scene pictures in
334. 13:10this house some of the furniture looks
335. 13:12the same it's really crazy and then it's
336. 13:14also extremely popular like a paranormal
337. 13:16hotspot a lot of people to different
338. 13:19Ghost Adventures and like paranormal
339. 13:22investigations at this bed-and-breakfast
340. 13:25trying to either communicate with the
341. 13:28deceased or you and Lizzie Borden
342. 13:31etc so it's kind of like a ghost hotspot
343. 13:34if you will there are a lot of movies TV
344. 13:37shows books even fan fictions depicting
345. 13:40what they think happened with the Lizzie
346. 13:42Borden case and if she killed her
347. 13:44parents or who was in on it lots of
348. 13:47different fan theories if you will
349. 13:49there's even a really creepy Nursery
350. 13:52Rhyme that was written about this case
351. 13:55that is just like nursery rhymes are
352. 13:57always so creepy why are they so creepy
353. 13:59we sing these to children or children
354. 14:00sing them like oh maybe that's why I
355. 14:02don't like what I hear like children
356. 14:04singing it just makes me think like the
357. 14:06place is haunted I do hope you guys
358. 14:08enjoyed this episode it was highly
359. 14:09requested I loved learning about it what
360. 14:12do you guys think do you think that
361. 14:13Lizzie was in on killing her parents do
362. 14:16you think she wasn't a part of it and
363. 14:17she just got the wrong target marked
364. 14:19honor who do you guys think did it thank
365. 14:22you guys so much for watching and I'll
366. 14:24see you guys in the next episode
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