The Judeo-Christian Origins of Modern Science — Transcript
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- 0:00there are very powerful voices in our
- 0:02culture who tell us that if you have a
- 0:06scientific worldview or world picture
- 0:08you should not take religion
- 0:11seriously now historians of Science in
- 0:14the 20th century have roundly and almost
- 0:17universally rejected this
- 0:20simplistic retelling of the history of
- 0:22science turns out there's more to the
- 0:25story than you may have been told
- 0:36thank you it's really nice to uh see so
- 0:39many people here in person last year we
- 0:41had to go to the online format only so
- 0:46um it's really good on the way here I
- 0:47was told that we had 878 people
- 0:51registered and um I tell always tell
- 0:53this bad joke that gets the staff guys a
- 0:56little nervous I said well then I better
- 0:58think of something to say I guess so um
- 1:02I am giving a new talk and in fact it's
- 1:04um a bit of uh a an new talks there's
- 1:09three separate modules to this I'll
- 1:11probably get through two and we may
- 1:13address the third in a Q&A but I I
- 1:17wanted to start first by talking about
- 1:20the influence of a judeo Christian
- 1:23indeed even a Biblical worldview on the
- 1:26origin of modern science it's a story
- 1:28that historians of science sence know
- 1:30very well but is has not percolated
- 1:33through to the public as we still have
- 1:35this Trope that science and religion are
- 1:38in a kind of warfare or conflict so the
- 1:43first part of the talk will just
- 1:45address uh the influence of the
- 1:48judeo-christian thinking on the rise of
- 1:50modern science and uh the second part of
- 1:54the talk we'll give a case study in that
- 1:57um interaction between the ology and
- 2:00Science in looking at Sir Isaac Newton
- 2:03and his ideas about universal
- 2:05gravitation and a fascinating
- 2:08controversy about his ideas that broke
- 2:10out at the time when he first published
- 2:12his prinkipia his famous work and if we
- 2:16have time I want to talk a little bit
- 2:18about a story that we've all heard about
- 2:21Newton about how he invoked God or the
- 2:24Angels or something to fix the planetary
- 2:27orbits every once in a while and he was
- 2:30guilty of this great intellectual sin
- 2:33known as the god of the gaps fallacy
- 2:36turns out there's more to the story than
- 2:38you may have been told so if we if we
- 2:40get there we'll get into that if not we
- 2:41can discuss it in the Q&A so we've got a
- 2:44um a talk with three modules today and
- 2:47the first is I I like to think it's
- 2:49you've got but wait there's more right
- 2:51we've got more and more more anyway the
- 2:53first part is about the judeo-christian
- 2:55origins of modern science and I want to
- 2:58repair back to something something that
- 3:00happened at this conference 3 years ago
- 3:03uh we had um in the evening uh an
- 3:07interview with uh Eric Maxis and me
- 3:12discussing my then forthcoming book
- 3:14Return of the god
- 3:16hypothesis and during the interview a
- 3:18very poignant thing happened there was a
- 3:20young camera operator stage right to me
- 3:25I think uh who began to weep visibly
- 3:29during the interview and um she was a
- 3:33little embarrassed and later wrote a
- 3:35letter to the the producer who was
- 3:38getting everything filmed explaining and
- 3:40asked him if he would forward it on to
- 3:42us and apparently this young woman had
- 3:47gone to college as a believer in God and
- 3:51had found that as a science major she
- 3:53was continually encountering professors
- 3:56who were aggressively prizz students in
- 4:00in uh service of what's now called the
- 4:03new atheism the idea that scientific
- 4:06evidence uh undermines the the the
- 4:10plausibility of belief in God this is
- 4:12what she wrote to us she said throughout
- 4:13my college career professors would
- 4:16constantly lecture that based on the
- 4:17evidence they had provided there should
- 4:20be no way that anyone in class could
- 4:22believe in God they'd argue that this
- 4:24that the science was proven God was
- 4:26hence a myth I was not equipped to
- 4:29present a valid opposition in debate I
- 4:32was desperate to find a commonality
- 4:34between my beliefs and my scientific
- 4:36education and so hearing about some
- 4:38evidence that provided commonality
- 4:41between belief and science um she
- 4:44realized that she'd been um living in a
- 4:47state of cognitive dissonance that had
- 4:49been very troubling to her and the tears
- 4:52began to flow I'll tell you a little bit
- 4:54about the rest of the story at the end
- 4:55of the lecture but it's not hard to see
- 4:59how uh many college students might
- 5:01acquire this perspective there are very
- 5:03powerful voices in our culture today who
- 5:07tell us that if you have a scientific
- 5:10world view or world picture if you take
- 5:13science seriously you should not take
- 5:15religion seriously uh that science shows
- 5:19that God does not exist or as Richard
- 5:21Dawkins put it on a famous um series of
- 5:25billboards that he had plastered on to
- 5:27London buses back in9 n God probably
- 5:32does not exist therefore and and then
- 5:35and then the next line under was uh so
- 5:38enjoy your
- 5:39life logically that doesn't quite follow
- 5:42if God probably does not exist then what
- 5:44he should have said is then you can
- 5:46probably enjoy your life but uh he he
- 5:48wasn't that logical uh in any case he
- 5:51wrote a famous book in 2007 The God
- 5:55Delusion and many other books in this
- 5:57same genre now called the the genre of
- 6:00new atheist writing uh breaking the
- 6:02spell by Daniel dennet can you guess
- 6:04what the spell is religious belief what
- 6:08breaks it science okay and this this
- 6:12idea that there that that science
- 6:13properly understood undermines belief in
- 6:16God is very common and very widespread
- 6:18in the culture and when we've done
- 6:20polling of young people we' found that
- 6:23the the number one reason cited for
- 6:27young people either rejecting their
- 6:29faith or not considering Faith seriously
- 6:31is no scientific evidence for God number
- 6:34two what in our in a survey that we
- 6:36commissioned uh was uh theories of
- 6:39biological and chemical Evolution a
- 6:41distant third was the problem of pain
- 6:43and suffering in the world very
- 6:44interesting so Sciences has has had an
- 6:47outsized influence in undermining
- 6:50confidence in the in belief of uh in Bel
- 6:55in God now this is the the the view of
- 6:58the new atheists which be came which
- 7:00they popularized in the early part of
- 7:03this Century uh' 07 up to I think the
- 7:07the books of this this publishing genre
- 7:09has started to wne in its its influence
- 7:12but 07 through 16117 there were a lot of
- 7:15books of this kind but this is not a new
- 7:17thesis at all goes back to the late 19th
- 7:20century with two famous books uh to
- 7:24books of historical books written by uh
- 7:28John William Draper
- 7:30and another author named Andrew
- 7:32Dickinson white um and these were
- 7:35profoundly revisionist histories of
- 7:38Science and they had really interesting
- 7:40titles that kind of tell the whole story
- 7:41one was a history of the conflict
- 7:44between science and religion and the
- 7:46second was a history of the Warfare
- 7:48between science and Theology and these
- 7:51were written in the immediate wake of
- 7:53the darwinian Revolution it's 1870s
- 7:561880s and these uh the conf ICT that did
- 8:00arise because of darwinian theory and uh
- 8:04the controversy about it um these
- 8:08authors characterized as indicative of
- 8:10the whole of the history of Science Now
- 8:14historians of Science in the 20 Century
- 8:16have roundly and almost universally
- 8:19rejected this
- 8:21simplistic retelling of the history of
- 8:23Science and one of the reasons for that
- 8:25is that uh two very prominent historians
- 8:28of science
- 8:30uh Joseph NM and Herbert Butterfield
- 8:32both of Cambridge
- 8:33University uh asked uh what might be
- 8:37called the why there why then
- 8:40question uh why did science did the
- 8:42Scientific Revolution with its
- 8:46systematic and organized methods for
- 8:50investigating nature Arise at a specific
- 8:54place at a specific and identifi at a
- 8:58specific and in an identifiable time
- 8:59period historians of science uh call the
- 9:03period from roughly 1500 to 1700 though
- 9:06some will push that back a bit further
- 9:08into the late Catholic Middle Ages they
- 9:11call that period the period of the
- 9:12Scientific Revolution sometimes they
- 9:14think of it as the period from cernus to
- 9:16Newton when there was just a tremendous
- 9:18flowering of scientific activity a
- 9:21formalization of scientific methods of
- 9:23investigation and this this this period
- 9:26is now called the Scientific Revolution
- 9:28and NE who was himself sort of a Marxist
- 9:32leaning
- 9:33intellectual asked the question well why
- 9:35did it happen in Western Europe then why
- 9:38did it happen there in Western Europe
- 9:40and why did it happen then out of all
- 9:42the centuries out of all the places we
- 9:44could have gotten science going why did
- 9:47it happen in Europe Western Europe and
- 9:51interestingly the the the conclusion
- 9:54that he and
- 9:55Butterfield and many other historians of
- 9:58Science and my book Return of the god
- 10:00hypothesis I list almost 20 prominent
- 10:03historians of science who have affirmed
- 10:05this basic
- 10:06thesis um and the answer they came to
- 10:09was that there was an X Factor and The X
- 10:12Factor had nothing to do with the
- 10:13material conditions of Western Europe
- 10:15Peter Hodson another historian of
- 10:17science from Oxford also a great nuclear
- 10:20physicist put it this way he said if we
- 10:22think about what is needed for the
- 10:24viable birth of science we see first of
- 10:27all that it needs a fairly well develop
- 10:29Society so that some of its members can
- 10:31spend most of their time just thinking
- 10:33about the world without the constant
- 10:35preoccupation of finding the next meal
- 10:38it needs some simple technology so that
- 10:40the apparatus required for experiments
- 10:43can be constructed there must also be a
- 10:45system of writing so that the results
- 10:47can be recorded and sent to other
- 10:48scientists and mathematical notation for
- 10:51the numerical results of measurements
- 10:53these may be called the material
- 10:55necessities of Science Now Hodson and
- 10:58other historians went on to say these
- 11:01were common in many cultures the
- 11:04Egyptians built Great Pyramids the
- 11:06Chinese uh invented gunpowder and block
- 11:10printing um you had the Romans built the
- 11:13Great aqueducts there were technological
- 11:16achievements of various kinds but the
- 11:20systematic interrogation or
- 11:23investigation of nature that arose in
- 11:25the period of the Scientific Revolution
- 11:27was
- 11:28unique and and what was the X Factor
- 11:31what was the difference that made the
- 11:33difference what was the variable that we
- 11:35could
- 11:36isolate and numerous historians of
- 11:39Science in this Century well in in the
- 11:4220th century and in this Century have
- 11:44identified an intellectual X Factor the
- 11:48there were certain presuppositions that
- 11:50the Western Europeans had about nature
- 11:53and about even human nature that made
- 11:58science possible
- 12:00in fact and in fact these
- 12:01presuppositions were judeo-christian
- 12:03they were biblical and the first there
- 12:07were three that have been identified at
- 12:08least three and we're going to focus on
- 12:10these the first is the intelligibility
- 12:12of
- 12:13nature the second is the order of Nature
- 12:17and the third is the contingency of
- 12:20nature so let's talk about each one of
- 12:23these first the intelligibility of
- 12:25nature this is a wonderful concept it's
- 12:28the idea that
- 12:29that nature is the product of a great
- 12:33mind of an
- 12:34intellect that nature was made by a
- 12:37Creator and therefore within the natural
- 12:41world there is a design an order that
- 12:44can be perceived by human beings with
- 12:48our rational Minds because our minds
- 12:50were made in the image of the Creator
- 12:53who made the world that the as uh Sir
- 12:56John polkinghorn A great Cambridge
- 12:58physicist and Anglican priest once put
- 13:01it the reason within the Mind matches
- 13:04the reason without out in the world
- 13:08because there was a common source for
- 13:10both there's a principle of
- 13:12Correspondence between our reason and
- 13:14the reason that designed and ordered the
- 13:17world and because of that we can
- 13:19understand the hidden secrets the
- 13:22underlying order and design of the world
- 13:24and it's intelligible to us now this
- 13:27seems second nature to us in Western
- 13:29culture today because of the success of
- 13:32science but this is an actually an
- 13:35uncommon assumption about nature many
- 13:39many cultures have had the idea that
- 13:40nature is essentially chaotic that if
- 13:42there are many gods there may be many
- 13:45different ordering principles at work in
- 13:47different parts of nature but the
- 13:50monotheistic tradition of the abrahamic
- 13:52religions in specifically of the judeo
- 13:55Christian idea with the idea of the
- 13:57humans being made in the image of God
- 13:59gave a theological underpinning to the
- 14:02idea of intelligibility and therefore a
- 14:05motivation to study nature if you don't
- 14:07think there's an order out there that
- 14:09you can discover you're not going to go
- 14:11look for it and so this was one of the
- 14:13the the the key
- 14:15Inspirations motivations for modern
- 14:18science is beautifully summed up in a
- 14:19famous quote from Johannes Kepler the
- 14:23um great
- 14:26astronomer and Kepler put it this way he
- 14:29said I was merely thinking God's
- 14:31thoughts after him that's the most
- 14:33famous part of the quote that the the
- 14:35scientist or the what was the the people
- 14:38at the time who were called natural
- 14:39philosophers what we call scientists
- 14:41today were called natural philosophers
- 14:43at the time he says the natural
- 14:44philosopher has the High Calling to
- 14:46think God's thoughts after him and he
- 14:48went on he said since we astronomers are
- 14:50priests of the highest God in regard to
- 14:53the book of
- 14:55nature it benefits us to be thoughtful
- 14:58not of the Glory of our minds but rather
- 15:00Above All Else of the glory of God
- 15:02notice that metaphor too the book of
- 15:05nature as opposed to what or in
- 15:08complimentarity to what the book of
- 15:11scripture is a one it was a very
- 15:13powerful metaphor goes all the way back
- 15:14to the Middle Ages with St Thomas
- 15:15aquinus and others the idea that God
- 15:18revealed himself in two books in The
- 15:19Book of of of scripture but also in the
- 15:21book of Nature and what does that if
- 15:23nature is a book what does that imply we
- 15:26can read it it's intelligible it makes
- 15:28sense okay so so that's one of the the
- 15:31the key Concepts let's let's now look at
- 15:33the second of the order of nature we're
- 15:34already touching on that because one of
- 15:36the things that is intelligible is
- 15:38Nature's orderorder now the ancient
- 15:40Greeks also had the idea of order and
- 15:42when I first encountered this um
- 15:45discussion of the importance of of judeo
- 15:48Christian theistic ideas on the rise of
- 15:50modern science um I was a bit puzzled by
- 15:53this because the Greeks already had a
- 15:55concept of order they're rationalist
- 15:57credos so the the universe is orderly
- 16:00and uh knowable and best known by human
- 16:03reason H but there was a difference in
- 16:05the kind of order and we'll get to that
- 16:07but um Alfred North Whitehead also um
- 16:11he's got a little collar there that
- 16:13makes him look like a priest but but uh
- 16:15he he was actually not a Christian again
- 16:17another historian philosopher of science
- 16:20who realized the importance of the
- 16:21judeo-christian tradition on the rise of
- 16:23modern science but he said there can be
- 16:25no living science unless there is a
- 16:27widespread instinct inve conviction in
- 16:30the existence of an order of things in
- 16:32particular an order of Nature and he
- 16:35attributed that widespread Instinct uh
- 16:38conviction to the theological background
- 16:40of Western Europe which was
- 16:42judeo-christian U white Whitehead
- 16:44himself was a a process
- 16:47philosopher um now when I was in grad
- 16:50school I came across a fascinating paper
- 16:53written uh by an historian of science
- 16:55fairly obscure historian of science
- 16:56named Edward zilsel and the the paper
- 16:59was called titled the Genesis of the
- 17:02concept of the laws of nature and he
- 17:05studied the the idea that nature had
- 17:07this orderly P these orderly patterns
- 17:10that could be discerned and described
- 17:14mathematically and such that we would
- 17:16call them laws of nature and he he
- 17:18traced that back all the way to the Book
- 17:21of Job and the recovery of the um the
- 17:26the emphasis on scripture is the basis
- 17:29for the Christian faith during the
- 17:30period of the
- 17:31Reformation uh and he said that the the
- 17:34concept of the laws of
- 17:36nature um as applying to the physical
- 17:38world was unique to this period of the
- 17:41the Scientific Revolution you don't
- 17:42really have it in Greek in Roman times
- 17:45um and he called it a juridical metaphor
- 17:49of theological origin that's where we
- 17:51get the idea of the laws of nature and
- 17:53so this idea of regularity the
- 17:55regularity of nature was captured in
- 17:57other metaphors that the early sence
- 17:58scientists used and these metaphors were
- 18:00also theological Robert Bole anyone
- 18:03remember him from chemistry class Bo's
- 18:05law okay um uh Bole said this way he
- 18:10said nature is like TI in the archaic
- 18:14English is like a rare clock where all
- 18:17things are so skillfully contrived that
- 18:19the engine being once set in MO in
- 18:22motion or a moving all things proceed
- 18:25according to the artificer's design so
- 18:28nature is a not only a book but it's a
- 18:30clock the Clockwork nature and that
- 18:33implied again intelligibility because
- 18:34you can open up a clock and figure out
- 18:36how it works but also a
- 18:39regularity an order to the processes of
- 18:43nature now this was also captured in the
- 18:46work of Sir Isaac Newton about whom
- 18:48we'll talk quite a bit more um this is
- 18:51the frest piece of his famous
- 18:54prinkipia um or the full title was the
- 18:58mathematical principles of natural
- 19:00philosophy I'll spare you the Latin um
- 19:04the mathematical principles this was the
- 19:07idea that the laws of nature the
- 19:09regularities that we observe in nature
- 19:11have a Precision to them that can be
- 19:13described with mathematics so that
- 19:17there's a lawful order to Nature that
- 19:20and we'll see in Newton's work he very
- 19:22much thought it was the product of a
- 19:25Divine mind and and God's constant
- 19:28Spirit action as one of my Cambridge
- 19:31supervisors put it uh that that that the
- 19:34orderly principles of nature that we can
- 19:37discern the orderly mathematical
- 19:39principles are a product of divine
- 19:42governance there's a passage in the New
- 19:44Testaments that says that God sustains
- 19:46the universe by the word of his power
- 19:49that what we call the laws of nature are
- 19:52a mode of divine action a way in which
- 19:55God is ordering the physical world this
- 19:57was this was the concept so you see it
- 19:59in the metaphor of the laws of nature
- 20:02and also in the metaphor of the
- 20:04Clockwork nature in both cases there's a
- 20:06regularity that's that we can we can
- 20:08trust now I mentioned that the Greeks
- 20:12had an idea of the order of nature as
- 20:14well but there was an important
- 20:17difference and the Greeks believed that
- 20:19the nature of the order of nature was
- 20:24um necessary that it was logically
- 20:27necessary that it flowed from a deeper
- 20:29principle that they called the logos
- 20:31okay and that what and that there was a
- 20:35way that nature must be ordered because
- 20:37there was a way that was most logical
- 20:39for nature to be ordered so they had for
- 20:42example the idea that the universe or
- 20:44that the solar system all the planets
- 20:46were Mo moving in per perfect circles
- 20:49not because their measurements showed
- 20:52that but because the circle was the
- 20:55perfect mode of of motion that's what
- 20:58seemed most logical to us as we sat like
- 21:02philosophers and thought about it okay
- 21:05and there was a a break from that way of
- 21:08thinking that historians of science have
- 21:10really emphasized and that was the idea
- 21:14that yes there is an order of nature but
- 21:17it's not a necessary order it's not the
- 21:19order that necessarily seems most
- 21:22logical to us it's a contingent order an
- 21:26order that could have been otherwise and
- 21:28which was chosen
- 21:30voluntarily by the Creator himself let's
- 21:33go back to that Clockwork idea there's a
- 21:36lots of different ways to tell time we
- 21:39can have the great old-fashioned clocks
- 21:42with all their gears like in the straber
- 21:45the center of strawberg which was the
- 21:47kind of emblematic clock of the of the
- 21:50time during the Scientific Revolution we
- 21:52can have um have our watches we can do
- 21:56it digitally we could use a we can use
- 21:59uh one of those those little sand or
- 22:02hourglasses with the sand in them can do
- 22:04a uh you you get the idea lots of
- 22:07different ways
- 22:09to tell time to produce a device that
- 22:12will in an orderly way give us
- 22:14information about the
- 22:16world so which device was
- 22:19used the point of these of this what was
- 22:23called the the tradition of theological
- 22:26voluntarism it's inherent in in
- 22:28Christianity that God and in Judaism
- 22:32that God could have made the world
- 22:33differently it was heavily emphasized by
- 22:37um late medieval Catholic thinkers like
- 22:40William of aam and by the reformers that
- 22:44God could God is perfectly free he is
- 22:46Sovereign and therefore he could have
- 22:48made the world lots of different ways
- 22:49Newton had a a famous equation to
- 22:52describe gravitational motion it was
- 22:54something called an inverse Square law
- 22:57but it could have been an inverse cubed
- 22:59law or it could have been a linear
- 23:01relationship it could have been God
- 23:03could have ordered the universe
- 23:04differently so what the therefore
- 23:06follows from that well that we have to
- 23:10go and look we have to observe we can't
- 23:12do armchair philosophizing to figure out
- 23:15the most logical way for ordering the
- 23:17world we have to go and empirically
- 23:20investig we have to investigate the
- 23:22empirical world we have to look at how
- 23:24the world actually operates now there's
- 23:27a famous decree
- 23:28in 1277 by a pope who outlawed at the uh
- 23:36um 277 different thesis that were called
- 23:41um reflected this necessari in theology
- 23:44there was a early synthesis in the
- 23:46Middle Ages between a lot of Greek
- 23:48thinking and Christian thinking and
- 23:49there was a pope who said M that idea
- 23:53that nature must be a certain way is is
- 23:56is actually not Christian God was free
- 23:58to make the world any way he wanted and
- 24:00while that seemed very restrictive
- 24:02intellectually at the time the Paradox
- 24:04was it opened up it created a different
- 24:07kind of intellectual climate in Europe
- 24:08where people began to think oh well then
- 24:10I need to go and look and Robert Bole
- 24:12centuries later famously said it's not
- 24:15the job of the natural
- 24:17philosopher to ask how God must have
- 24:21done it but rather to go and look and to
- 24:24see how he did do it okay now there was
- 24:28another proposition that went that was
- 24:31closely related to this that also became
- 24:34ascendant During the period of the
- 24:35Reformation was called the depravity of
- 24:37man the idea that human beings are
- 24:40fallible and not just morally but
- 24:42intellectually we can jump to
- 24:44conclusions we can allow our biases to
- 24:47influence the way we look at evidence we
- 24:50can well we're fallible we just might
- 24:53get it wrong so we've got to test our
- 24:55hypotheses against the world and so very
- 24:59systematic methods for doing that were
- 25:02developed methods of difference methods
- 25:04of isolating variables methods of
- 25:06setting up experiments and so this also
- 25:08went hand inand with the idea of the
- 25:10contingency of nature God could have
- 25:12done it otherwise and we're
- 25:14inclined
- 25:17towards bias blindness getting it wrong
- 25:20we're
- 25:21fallible and both of these things led to
- 25:24an Impulse towards empirical
- 25:25investigation this is fascinating three
- 25:28great
- 25:28assumptions that flowed right out of
- 25:30judeo-christian theology or a
- 25:32judeo-christian worldview the
- 25:34intelligibility of nature the order of
- 25:35nature the contingency of Nature and the
- 25:39fallibility of human reasoning led to
- 25:42the Scientific Revolution and with that
- 25:44there were these three metaphors and
- 25:46I've talked about them already in
- 25:48passing but nature is a book nature is a
- 25:50clock and nature is a law governed realm
- 25:54all of these are theological metaphors
- 25:56if you doubt the thesis I'm advancing as
- 26:00I did when I first encountered it um one
- 26:03of the things that will change your mind
- 26:05is reading the these early scientists in
- 26:09their original you know their original
- 26:11texts they're constantly using these
- 26:13metaphors well where do they come from
- 26:15and what do they imply they're all
- 26:17metaphors of theological
- 26:22origin and beyond all that in the
- 26:24writings of the early scientists you
- 26:26also see one other thing which is that
- 26:27they make design arguments they don't
- 26:30just presuppose that God made the world
- 26:33as they begin to investigate it they see
- 26:36evidence of that one of the early works
- 26:39of biology by John Ray and one by way
- 26:43one of our Texas supporters recently
- 26:45sent me an early edition of this book
- 26:47which I treasure it's a uh it's one of
- 26:50the early books of of of uh Modern
- 26:52Biology it's called the wisdom of God
- 26:54manifested in the works of creation now
- 26:57this is a this this is basically a
- 26:58paraphrase of a passage in the Book of
- 27:00Romans where where the famous passage in
- 27:03Romans 1:20 where um Paul says that that
- 27:08uh from the foundations of the world go
- 27:10God's invisible qualities his eternal
- 27:13power and divine nature in the older
- 27:16translations translated wisdom is
- 27:18clearly seen in the things that are made
- 27:21so this is this is you can see the
- 27:22theological inspiration for doing
- 27:24science but this is a work which is also
- 27:27which is actually arguing
- 27:28for the evidence of that the wisdom of
- 27:30that Creator by looking at the things
- 27:32that are made you saw it in we see it in
- 27:35the works of Robert Bole there's a
- 27:36terrific historian of science uh Ted
- 27:39Davis at Messiah College and Davis came
- 27:43across this passage a lengthy passage
- 27:47from which this quote is extracted and
- 27:49he realized that the famous watch to
- 27:52watchmaker argument that was made uh
- 27:55Popular by William paly in the 19th
- 27:57century was already present in the works
- 27:59of Robert Bole in this in the 17th
- 28:02century and here's a passage where Bole
- 28:04says every indication of contrivance
- 28:07every manifestation of design which
- 28:09existed in the
- 28:11watch exists in nature in the works of
- 28:14nature what can we conclude therefore
- 28:16nature was designed just as the watch
- 28:18was
- 28:20designed and this tradition of what's
- 28:23also called natural theology reasoning
- 28:27from nature to the exist existence and
- 28:28reality of God reached an almost
- 28:31Majestic tradition um in in in the works
- 28:34of Sir Isaac Newton this is a passage
- 28:36from the theological epilogue to the
- 28:41prinkipia where in the prinkipia he he
- 28:44develops his universal theory of
- 28:47gravitation and then in a later addition
- 28:49he adds an epilogue which is a
- 28:51theological reflection on what he's done
- 28:54and he makes a an Exquisite design
- 28:57argument based on on the fine-tuning of
- 28:59the position of the
- 29:01planets and how his argument is that
- 29:05only if the planets are positioned very
- 29:08precisely would you get a stable orbit
- 29:10and this to him suggests um an
- 29:13Aboriginal design of the whole system
- 29:15and here's what he says though these
- 29:17bodies the planetary bodies May indeed
- 29:19continue in their orbits by the mere
- 29:21laws of gravity they could by no means
- 29:24have at first derived the regular
- 29:26position of the orbits themselves from
- 29:28those laws thus this most beautiful
- 29:30system of the sun planets and comets
- 29:33could only proceed from the council and
- 29:36Dominion of an intelligent and Powerful
- 29:39being with a capital b a design argument
- 29:43I once was um asked to
- 29:46testify uh before the US Commission on
- 29:50civil rights and the Commissioners were
- 29:51investigating whether or not there was
- 29:53Viewpoint discrimination in the teaching
- 29:55of biological origins in public school
- 29:58science instruction when I heard what
- 30:01they were investigating I thought I
- 30:02wouldn't have thought you needed a
- 30:03commission to determine that you know
- 30:05just open your any old biology textbook
- 30:08and you get the full orbed Allelujah
- 30:11chorus to Charles Darwin and that's it
- 30:13no other perspective um so be it I did
- 30:17go and testify and um while I was
- 30:21explaining the view that I held the idea
- 30:23of intelligent design one of the um the
- 30:28the person opposite testifying for the
- 30:31Darwin only approach to Science
- 30:33Education uh interrupted me and said
- 30:36well it's true what Young Dr Meyer says
- 30:39um I was young once and um uh uh that
- 30:44Isaac Newton uh was a he was a very
- 30:48religious man but he took great pains to
- 30:50keep his religious ideas about
- 30:52intelligent design out of his scientific
- 30:55writing and I quoted this passage I had
- 30:58it nearly I had just written it in an
- 31:00essay it was a block quote on the first
- 31:02page of an essay in my briefcase so I
- 31:03had it nearly memorized and I I pretty
- 31:06closely quoted it back in rebuttal and I
- 31:09made the point that in the general
- 31:11scholium to the prinkipia arguably the
- 31:15greatest work of physics ever written
- 31:17Isaac Newton said the following and what
- 31:19he made was a design argument okay so in
- 31:23the period of the Scientific Revolution
- 31:25we do not have a conflict between
- 31:27science and religion
- 31:28there are some minor things there's the
- 31:29Galileo Affair and we can talk about
- 31:31that in the Q&A but the
- 31:34overwhelming uh train of thought is the
- 31:38interest in studying the natural world
- 31:41for as one historian of science Rodney
- 31:43Stark from Baylor University put it in
- 31:45his famed uh book at Princeton
- 31:47University press for the glory of God
- 31:51the purpose that was his title the
- 31:53reason that there was a science was that
- 31:55the scientists were trying to reveal the
- 31:56glory of God in what had been made so no
- 31:59conflict and upon viewing nature they
- 32:03also saw evidence of that
- 32:06Glory
- 32:08so that I think is the is the big train
- 32:11of thought the the the exciting uh thing
- 32:14that is not talked about by so many
- 32:17contemporary authors who want to tell us
- 32:18that there's always been this inherent
- 32:20or intrinsic conflict now of course they
- 32:24can argue if they like that well that
- 32:26was then and this is now
- 32:28but the force of my book Return of the
- 32:31god hypothesis is to look at the many
- 32:33new things that are being discovered the
- 32:35evidence we have that the Universe had a
- 32:37beginning that it's been finely tuned
- 32:40since the beginning or from the
- 32:41beginning and that we have had big
- 32:44bursts of new biological information
- 32:46entering our Earth's biosphere since the
- 32:49beginning I focus on those three big
- 32:51discoveries of modern science and I
- 32:52argue that they have theistic
- 32:54implications that they if if we had a
- 32:56time in the 19th century where that
- 32:58Harmony between science and religion was
- 33:00lost it's now coming back it's not the
- 33:04purpose of this lecture though to make
- 33:05that case um I can direct you to the
- 33:08book um but I wanted to do in the second
- 33:11part of this lecture um a little case
- 33:16study to show just how deep the
- 33:20integration or Harmony between science
- 33:23and religion was during this period of
- 33:25the Scientific Revolution and how
- 33:28profoundly the disciplines of Theology
- 33:31and science were intermingled as people
- 33:34began were thinking about not only the
- 33:37evidence that God created the universe
- 33:40and their and how their
- 33:42presuppositions gave them a way and a
- 33:44motivation to study that but also
- 33:47thinking about exactly how did God
- 33:49interact with the world and what's the
- 33:51right way to conceive of that
- 33:53interaction as uh one of my super visors
- 33:58when I was a grad student in England put
- 34:00it uh science was a deeply theological
- 34:03project it was a theological project we
- 34:06were studying the scientists were
- 34:07studying The Works of God so in in
- 34:10looking at that I want to look at
- 34:12Newton's theory of universal
- 34:15gravitation and the controversy that
- 34:17broke out around it here again is that
- 34:19frontus piece of the prinkipia the uh
- 34:22mathematical principles of natural
- 34:25philosophy Newton published this in 18
- 34:2867 and in publishing this he replaced an
- 34:33older theory of
- 34:34gravity uh called The Vortex Vortex or
- 34:38vortices Theory this is a little picture
- 34:40from my book I'm not sure how yeah just
- 34:42come across on the PowerPoint if you
- 34:44look at the bottom you'll see the older
- 34:47Theory and the idea was that around each
- 34:51planetary body the the bodies were moved
- 34:55because of a pushing and pulling
- 34:56mechanism
- 34:58there was some sort of uh ether some
- 35:01sort of invisible but physical substance
- 35:04that was was pushing and pulling and
- 35:06causing the planets to swirl in their
- 35:09orbits U so you can think of it as you
- 35:11know dropping a stick in a Vortex or you
- 35:14know watching the bathtub drains and the
- 35:16little duckies get closer and closer to
- 35:18the drain you know there's something
- 35:19pushing the the the planets around in
- 35:22their orbits and that was the idea uh
- 35:25that was common when newon formulated
- 35:28universal gravitation and he begins the
- 35:31prinkipia with a famous line the theory
- 35:34of vortices is beset with many
- 35:37difficulties so he's going to take this
- 35:39theory on but it's important to
- 35:41understand the background of this Theory
- 35:44because there was a kind of um part of
- 35:47the Scientific Revolution was an
- 35:50emergence of a different kind of
- 35:52explanation that we need to explain
- 35:54things by reference to mechanisms
- 35:57remember that
- 35:58Clockwork uh illustration or metaphor as
- 36:03opposed to what well as opposed to what
- 36:04was common during the Scholastic period
- 36:08uh an appeal to what we called
- 36:11substantial forms or Aristotle's idea of
- 36:14formal causes and there's a lot of good
- 36:17sense to Aristotle we're not going to
- 36:19spend any time ripping on him this
- 36:21morning but there was a an uh a habit of
- 36:25intellectual laziness that arose During
- 36:28the period of the medieval
- 36:30Scholastics such that they would tend to
- 36:34explain as the cause of something they
- 36:37would tend to take the name of an effect
- 36:39and treat it as if it was the cause of
- 36:40the effect let me give you an example if
- 36:43you eat some bread and it makes you
- 36:47stronger then we could say that the
- 36:49bread has a nutritive
- 36:52virtue if you smoke some opium and it
- 36:55puts you to sleep they would say that
- 36:56the Opium had had a dormitive virtue
- 37:00because it emed the form of sleep
- 37:04inducing and so there's this kind of
- 37:06circularity you just named the effect
- 37:09the thing that you saw
- 37:11happening as its own cause why does
- 37:14opium put you to sleep well because it
- 37:16has a sleep inducing
- 37:19virtue we are not entirely immune to
- 37:21this way of thinking have you ever heard
- 37:23there the the commercials well aspir
- 37:26aspirin has a pain pain relieving
- 37:28formula why does aspirin relieve it you
- 37:30your pain well because it has a pain
- 37:32relieving formula that's not really a
- 37:35very satisfying explanation but it was a
- 37:38common way of thinking and during the
- 37:40Scientific Revolution the early
- 37:43scientists or natural philosophers or in
- 37:45this case a particular branch of natural
- 37:47philosophy called mechanical philosophy
- 37:49said enough we need to dig down a little
- 37:53deeper and find out what
- 37:55materially is happening that is
- 37:57responsible for the effects that we see
- 38:01so Robert Bole in his famous gas law
- 38:05said it had to do with little core
- 38:06pusles of of gas that were knocking into
- 38:08each other and the volume and the
- 38:10temperature and the different variables
- 38:13um and and the action of gases could be
- 38:16explained by the interaction of of
- 38:18actual physical matter core pusles of
- 38:21gas okay inside the clock you've got
- 38:24mechanisms that explain why the hands
- 38:26move right that the idea get to a
- 38:29mechanistic cause and there was a lot of
- 38:31sense to
- 38:33that and so that was part of the
- 38:35mechanical no more substantial forms
- 38:38explain things by the interactions of
- 38:40matter and if we talk about design in
- 38:43nature let's not be talking about let's
- 38:46not be invoking God episodically we
- 38:49don't say the clock maker is every
- 38:53minute of the every once in a while
- 38:55adjusting the the the the the uh the
- 38:59gears to make sure the hands move rather
- 39:01he set it up in such a way that the
- 39:03hands would move in a regular way so we
- 39:05see the design in the
- 39:07overall um uh in the whole contrivance
- 39:11is the way they put it in the overall
- 39:12structure of the whether it's a the
- 39:15universe or an organism not in episodic
- 39:19interventions of God okay that was the
- 39:21these were sort of tenants of the of
- 39:23natural of mechanical philosophy well
- 39:26now Newton comes along and he's very
- 39:28unhappy with this Vortex Theory first of
- 39:31all we have no evidence of The Ether
- 39:33pushing the planets around and it had a
- 39:35lot of other problems mathematically and
- 39:38otherwise it didn't really provide any
- 39:40kind of consistent understanding of the
- 39:43orbital
- 39:44motions and he formulated a new Theory
- 39:47and it was called the theory of
- 39:48universal
- 39:49gravitation
- 39:51and it had a number of features and it
- 39:56was the idea that there the
- 39:58gravitational force is transmitted
- 40:01between the bodies that are affected by
- 40:04it so we've got the Earth Earth here the
- 40:06moon up there okay and there is a force
- 40:10of attraction between those two massive
- 40:12bodies and that gravitational force acts
- 40:16instantaneously and it acts at a
- 40:18distance even though the Moon and the
- 40:20Earth are not touching each other the
- 40:22Moon is mysteriously moving the tides on
- 40:25planet Earth
- 40:27and the Earth is affecting the movement
- 40:29of the of of the the moon as well it's
- 40:33also and this is happening unobservably
- 40:35we can't see the grav gravitational
- 40:37force itself but we see its effect it's
- 40:40also happening
- 40:42universally his famous dictum was all
- 40:45matter
- 40:46gravitates the Moon is affecting the
- 40:48Earth but it's also affecting objects on
- 40:50the earth and it's also affecting Pluto
- 40:53if we can still call Pluto a planet I
- 40:55don't know it got demoted recently um I
- 40:58have no view on that
- 41:01controversy and most importantly
- 41:04gravitation acts in accord with a
- 41:07precise mathematical formula and
- 41:10Newton's formula we you won't be tested
- 41:13on this afterwards but it's a famous
- 41:16formula the force of gravity f equals
- 41:19some constant G and we can that's
- 41:21another issue but it's proportional to
- 41:24the masses of the two bodies that are
- 41:26interacting the bigger they are the
- 41:28harder they
- 41:29pull and it's inversely proportional to
- 41:32the distance between
- 41:34them squared yes thank you got an
- 41:38engineer physicist in the second row I
- 41:40appreciate that yes don't forget the
- 41:42squared could have been a cubed could
- 41:44have been a cubed because it's a
- 41:45contingent universe but it was a
- 41:47square but that was the
- 41:50rub that's what made this controversial
- 41:53what do you mean sir Isa he wasn't sir
- 41:55at that point I Isaac baby what do you
- 42:00mean distance inversely proportional to
- 42:03the distance between
- 42:07them a good explanation we're no longer
- 42:10the
- 42:11Scholastics a good explanation involves
- 42:13pushing and pulling no distance between
- 42:16them if I ask you why does the chair
- 42:20move the answer is you pushed it there
- 42:25was a touch there was a push there was a
- 42:29contact how does
- 42:33the moon affect the water on the
- 42:38Earth when the two aren't
- 42:40touching in fact they're quite a long
- 42:42ways
- 42:43apart took us a long time to get a man
- 42:46up
- 42:47there so when I I was teaching when I
- 42:50tried tried to get the the mechanical
- 42:52philosophers of the day the
- 42:58students of the great Robert Bole
- 43:01said wait a minute just to get they were
- 43:05bothered by this Newtonian concept of
- 43:07gravity no pushing and pulling when I
- 43:09was teaching I used to use my wallet as
- 43:11a visual aid with students I'd ask them
- 43:15well what caused the wallet to
- 43:18fall and they'd say well
- 43:23gravity I'd say okay good what's gravity
- 43:28well it's a force I said what kind of
- 43:30force is it well it's the force that you
- 43:32know causes stuff to
- 43:34fall oh thank you thank
- 43:37you wait so what caused the wallet to
- 43:40fall gravity and what is gravity the
- 43:42thing that
- 43:44makes while it's
- 43:47fall how is that different than the
- 43:49dormitive
- 43:50virtue or The nutritive Virtue you see
- 43:52what immediately bothered
- 43:54them and there was this dude
- 44:00godfried
- 44:01libnet and he and Newton had some issues
- 44:05because they both invented the calculus
- 44:07at the same
- 44:08time I'm serious I mean the two great
- 44:11minds these were the great minds of
- 44:13the late 17th century and they had a
- 44:16what's called a priority dispute we now
- 44:19actually use liet's notation with the
- 44:21calculus more than Newton's but they
- 44:24both came up with the idea independently
- 44:26it's pretty pretty well established so
- 44:29they were rivals in a way but godfried
- 44:32liet also a Christian but he had a very
- 44:34different view of the way God interacted
- 44:37with the world than
- 44:38Newton and he did not like Newton's
- 44:42Theory at
- 44:43all we all learned universal gravitation
- 44:46we learned that famous equation in
- 44:47physics today do you know it was super
- 44:50controversial at the
- 44:51time and liet said Mr Bole would never
- 44:55have allowed such a Shamira whole
- 44:58notion like a Shima like ghostly
- 45:03vacuous vague indistinct lacking
- 45:07specificity where's the pushing and
- 45:10pulling where's the
- 45:14cause he called it an occult property
- 45:18gravitation is occult why was it occult
- 45:20well because gravitational Forks acts at
- 45:23a distance with no material or
- 45:25mechanical interaction the gravitational
- 45:28force is
- 45:29unobservable and he said the
- 45:31gravitational the cause of gravity is
- 45:33either
- 45:34unintelligible it's either like one of
- 45:36those Scholastic explanations where we
- 45:39say you know the bread nourishes because
- 45:41it has a nutritive virtue gravitational
- 45:43force acts because what is gravity well
- 45:45it's the force that causes gravitational
- 45:48attraction it's the same kind of thing
- 45:50right where where's the explanation in
- 45:52that where's the C where's the cause or
- 45:55if there is a cause he says
- 45:58it's
- 45:59theological you're bringing God into
- 46:01science where we just agreed we wouldn't
- 46:03do
- 46:05that it's
- 46:07miraculous and so he writes a letter to
- 46:11Newton and it he doesn't get Newton to
- 46:15write him
- 46:16back Newton writes back through an
- 46:18intermediary a man named Samuel Clark
- 46:21because Newton doesn't want to daine to
- 46:23give Li Nets the same standing
- 46:27there's a little rivalry and there's
- 46:29this famous correspondence called the
- 46:31the liet Clark correspondence and it is
- 46:33f it's really fascinating and in that
- 46:36correspondence liman just strips the
- 46:38bark off of Newton and says this is a
- 46:40your theory is a recourse to absurdities
- 46:43or a Perpetual miracle and if it's not
- 46:45miraculous it's false and he goes on and
- 46:48says more more he's got all kinds of
- 46:50Juicy quotes Newton's law he says gives
- 46:53Refuge to ignorance and laziness by
- 46:55means of an irrational system which
- 46:57maintains not only that there are
- 46:58qualities which we do not understand of
- 47:01which there are far too many but further
- 47:03that there are some which could not be
- 47:05comprehended by the greatest intellect
- 47:07if God gave it every possible
- 47:09opportunity this is a bad
- 47:13Theory what's the what's the problem
- 47:15here there's no cause Newton does not
- 47:18identify a cause of gravity and as
- 47:21liance is thinking through the
- 47:23possibilities all the possible causes
- 47:25are either absurd
- 47:28there either a recourse to absurdity or
- 47:30he's or Newton is somehow bringing in
- 47:32the miraculous in just the way that Bo
- 47:35said we didn't need to do
- 47:37anymore three causes if you think of the
- 47:41let's let's think of the the moon up
- 47:42there okay we got the moon up there and
- 47:45we got the Earth here we got empty space
- 47:46between and a force is being transmitted
- 47:48through a distance so what could be
- 47:51causing that Force well it could be
- 47:53matter within the bodies it could be
- 47:55something about the Earth and the moon
- 47:58they in other words they could have some
- 47:59gravitational virtue each of them oh
- 48:03well that's just renaming the effect
- 48:04well maybe the gravitational virtue is
- 48:06caused by something else material within
- 48:08the bodies but since they're not
- 48:10touching what could that be well maybe
- 48:11it's like maybe they both have a sucy
- 48:14power or a vacuity or
- 48:19a it they couldn't if the if the if the
- 48:22cause is within the bodies and they're
- 48:24not touching each other there's no
- 48:26material interaction
- 48:27all you can do is rename the effect as
- 48:29its cause and you're right back to the
- 48:31Scholastic so cross that one out that's
- 48:33the recourse to
- 48:36absurdity but it could be some matter in
- 48:38between the
- 48:39bodies like an
- 48:41ether but Newton says no ether it's
- 48:44empty space it's action at a distance
- 48:48now later in his career Newton finally
- 48:50gave into these Jokers and he said okay
- 48:53you can have your ether and so we had
- 48:55ether in physics until the late 19
- 48:56Century but Newton did not want
- 48:59ether he he thought it was just it was
- 49:02just empty space but if it's not the
- 49:05matter in the
- 49:07bodies and if it's not the matter
- 49:08between the bodies that's causing
- 49:12gravitation maybe it's not
- 49:16material and that's why liet said or
- 49:20else you mean miraculous
- 49:23right
- 49:25and so
- 49:27so Newton publicly says this he says
- 49:30well when asked what the cause is he
- 49:33said hypothesis non fingo which means I
- 49:36don't Fain to know the cause I don't
- 49:38pretend to know the
- 49:39cause but privately he says something
- 49:43different in a correspondence with a
- 49:47famous cleric at the time named Richard
- 49:50Bentley um Bentley queries Newton and
- 49:52he's aware of this same logic these
- 49:54three possibilities and he says as I
- 49:56read you I think you're saying it's
- 49:58inconceivable that inanimate brute
- 49:59matter should without a Divine
- 50:01impression operate upon and affect other
- 50:04matter without Mutual
- 50:06contact are you saying that the real
- 50:08cause of gravity is is the constant
- 50:11Spirit action of God himself that's why
- 50:14it's instantaneous and added distance
- 50:15and all that and Newton says first in
- 50:20reply well gravity must be caused yes it
- 50:23must be caused by an agent acting
- 50:25constantly according to certain law
- 50:27though be that a material or an
- 50:30immaterial agent I leave to the
- 50:32discretion of my
- 50:33readers he's not going to be drawn at
- 50:36first but then in the same
- 50:38letter he is he
- 50:41says well actually I like very much your
- 50:43second proposition and then he quotes
- 50:45back to Bentley what he said with a
- 50:48slight twist he says is in yes you're
- 50:50right I like what you say that it's
- 50:51inconceivable that inanimate brute
- 50:53matter should without the mediation of
- 50:55something else which is not not
- 50:58Material operate upon and affect other
- 51:00matter without Mutual contact as it must
- 51:02if gravitation be essential and inherent
- 51:04in it in other words he says yeah the
- 51:08material agent thing I floated is not
- 51:10what I think it's an immaterial agent in
- 51:14other words AKA God one of my Cambridge
- 51:15supervisors put it this way he said yeah
- 51:17what Newton believed was the ultimate
- 51:19cause of God was constant Spirit
- 51:23action God sustains the universe by the
- 51:25word of his power
- 51:28and later in the general scholium to the
- 51:30prinkipia so that this correspondence is
- 51:33taking place in
- 51:351692 U 20 years later he affirms in the
- 51:39General scholium in him all things are
- 51:43contained and moved the ultimate source
- 51:46of gravitational motion is the constant
- 51:49Spirit action of God so he has a
- 51:52profoundly theistic View and in fact
- 51:54liet had sused it out he had he you know
- 51:58um Newton didn't want to be seen to be
- 52:00violating the tenants of the mechanical
- 52:02philosophy but but he was so often times
- 52:06Newton is presented as the great
- 52:08mechanist we hear about Newtonian
- 52:10mechanics and the Newtonian mechanistic
- 52:12world picture incorrect portrayal of the
- 52:15man he was not a mechanist he believed
- 52:18that something immaterial was the
- 52:20ultimate cause of the most fundamental
- 52:22force in the universe
- 52:24gravitation he was also not a DE because
- 52:27deist don't believe that God is involved
- 52:28in a moment by- moment way with the
- 52:30universe he's often portrayed as a deist
- 52:33he was definitely a theist with a
- 52:36profound Theology of
- 52:38nature a profound understanding of how
- 52:41God is interacting with the world and
- 52:43also a theist who made profound natural
- 52:45theological arguments design
- 52:48arguments now there is a debate among
- 52:51Scholars about whether Newton was he was
- 52:54a devout Christian of some kind the
- 52:56question is was he an Orthodox Christian
- 52:58who believed in the Divinity of Christ
- 53:00and The Trinity or was he more of an
- 53:02Aryan heterodox Christian who believe
- 53:05that in a Transcendent God but as some
- 53:08of our uh friends in the Jehovah's
- 53:10Witnesses World believe uh that God that
- 53:13Jesus was created to be an agent of God
- 53:17in the world and was the Exemplar to man
- 53:19but not fully
- 53:21Define uh that's the more common view of
- 53:23Newton's theological position but I've
- 53:26come to doubt it in recent years and
- 53:28I've been made aware of some scholarship
- 53:30by a a historian of ideas and historian
- 53:32of science named Thomas
- 53:34fitzmier in a in a seminal article
- 53:37called was Isaac Newton and Aryan and
- 53:39what seems to be the I think the best
- 53:41view of Newton's view was that he
- 53:44doubted the aanan formulation of the
- 53:47Trinity um with its Reliance on Greek
- 53:50philosophical Concepts like
- 53:53substance um but was trinitarian
- 53:56um and therefore did believe in the
- 53:58Divinity of Christ I first got skeptical
- 53:59about this when I saw that passage from
- 54:01the the the typical interpretation of
- 54:03Newton when I saw that passage in the
- 54:05general scholium because it's a close
- 54:07paraphrase to the passage in Colossians
- 54:09which says in Christ all things are held
- 54:11together okay and I wondered and and he
- 54:15wrote a lot on Messianic prophecy so
- 54:18anyway very interesting figure um in a
- 54:22very interesting way in which Theology
- 54:23and science are deeply deeply
- 54:27entwined and in conversation in the 19th
- 54:29century by the way uh this mystery about
- 54:32gravitation has not been resolved right
- 54:34up to the present day this was
- 54:35emphasized to me when I was doing
- 54:37tutorials on this in Cambridge our new
- 54:39theory of general relativity formulated
- 54:40by Einstein says that massive bodies
- 54:43move because of the way that space is
- 54:45curved and massive bodies curve space or
- 54:48SpaceTime but space is empty so how does
- 54:51an empty thing cause a physical thing to
- 54:53move still very occult in the libnan
- 54:56sense and we have newer theories of
- 54:58quantum gravity and or string theory
- 55:02that posit gravitons as the the
- 55:04elementary particles that are mediating
- 55:06gravitational force but oddly gravitons
- 55:10also warp SpaceTime to do that and they
- 55:13are massless
- 55:15particles so chew on all that and I
- 55:18think I'm a little bit over time but I
- 55:20didn't know how long this was going to
- 55:21go thanks so much for your attention
- 55:24[Music]
- 55:25[Applause]
- 55:30[Music]
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