The illusion of self and the illusion of free will, explained | Annaka Harris — Transcript
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- 0:00- People often think that illusions are evolved
- 0:03for their usefulness,
- 0:04but the truth is that most illusions
- 0:06that we experience are actually glitches.
- 0:10One example of this is the illusion of self
- 0:13and the illusion of free will,
- 0:15and the illusion of free will
- 0:17and self are really two sides of the same coin.
- 0:19It's this experience we all have
- 0:22of being a solid entity,
- 0:25an unchanging entity that moves through time,
- 0:28that is somehow living somewhere inside my body.
- 0:32It's my body, it's my brain,
- 0:35and therefore, somehow separate from the physical world,
- 0:39and this illusion confuses us about our place in nature
- 0:44and the state of reality on on many different levels.
- 0:47But the truth is that there really is this positive way
- 0:50to view it.
- 0:57So I think that free will, for the most part,
- 1:00is an illusion.
- 1:01But when I talk about free will,
- 1:03I like to distinguish between conscious will and free will.
- 1:07So I use the term free will
- 1:09to talk about decision-making processes in nature,
- 1:12which there clearly are.
- 1:14If you look at something like a pea tendril,
- 1:18when it senses that it's close to a branch
- 1:21that it can wrap itself around,
- 1:22it starts growing more quickly in that direction,
- 1:26and then it changes the growth,
- 1:27so that it wraps itself around a branch.
- 1:30Most of us wouldn't consider that
- 1:32to be a free decision-making process.
- 1:35It's a cause and effect process that occurs in nature.
- 1:38And as you move up in complexity to the level of brains
- 1:42and then human brains,
- 1:44the number of factors that come into play
- 1:47are so expansive
- 1:50that it would be impossible for us to track them all.
- 1:53But it is a process,
- 1:56and it's a process by which the brain is interacting
- 1:59with the exterior world
- 2:01and measuring the different outcomes
- 2:05of the different possible futures,
- 2:06and then ultimately making a decision.
- 2:09This is something that I think we can refer to as free will,
- 2:13and that what many people mean by free will.
- 2:16The problem with having "free" in the title
- 2:21is that it's not free in the way we feel it is,
- 2:25and this is where the illusion comes in.
- 2:29We begin with this illusion of self,
- 2:32of being this solid, concrete entity
- 2:35that lives somewhere in the head,
- 2:37and even though we know better,
- 2:40feels as though it's separate from the physical world
- 2:42and separate from the cause-effect relationships
- 2:45that we know to be in place
- 2:47that could somehow freely make a decision,
- 2:51or freely intervene in the physical world outside
- 2:56of the relationships of cause and effect.
- 2:59And because everything we experience,
- 3:03everything we know takes place
- 3:05within this felt experience of consciousness,
- 3:08we often equate this feeling of self with consciousness,
- 3:14and that I think is clearly an illusion,
- 3:17and I call that conscious will
- 3:19because it is this feeling
- 3:21that my conscious experience is this self
- 3:24and is the thing that has this freedom,
- 3:26and this is how the illusion of self
- 3:28and the illusion of free will are related.
- 3:32There was a very interesting study done in 2013
- 3:35in which they put participants in an fMRI machine
- 3:39and showed them a screen,
- 3:40and presented two numbers on that screen,
- 3:43and they gave them the option of either adding
- 3:46or subtracting these two numbers,
- 3:49and they were scanning the activity
- 3:51of these participants' brains
- 3:53while they were doing this calculation,
- 3:55and the result of this study
- 3:57was that the experimenters could tell up to four seconds
- 4:02not only when this person was going to make the decision,
- 4:07but whether they decided to add or subtract,
- 4:10and so you get the sense viscerally that there's no self
- 4:15or free will making decisions behind the scenes,
- 4:19but that in terms of your conscious experience,
- 4:22a decision really arises.
- 4:27So when I talk about the illusion of self,
- 4:31this is often very hard for people
- 4:33to grasp what that could even mean,
- 4:36and so I'd first like to just be very clear
- 4:39about what I'm not talking about
- 4:41when I talk about the illusion of self.
- 4:43So what is not an illusion is the fact
- 4:46that we are organisms and systems in nature,
- 4:50and that we have certain tendencies,
- 4:52and that we're organized in a certain way,
- 4:54and so we can talk about ourselves in the same way
- 4:57that we can talk about a cat as another organism in nature,
- 5:00or even an ocean wave.
- 5:03But even though we can label it a wave
- 5:05and we can call it a wave
- 5:06and talk about the types of things waves do,
- 5:09we all understand
- 5:10that a wave is not a static thing in nature.
- 5:13It's a process,
- 5:14and our brains are very much the same thing.
- 5:17They are processes in nature that are ever-changing,
- 5:20ever-evolving,
- 5:22that we are in constant communication
- 5:24with the external world,
- 5:26and that the boundaries between ourselves and the world
- 5:31and ourselves and each other are not as solid
- 5:34and firm as they appear to us
- 5:36or that they feel to us to be,
- 5:38especially when we feel like a static self.
- 5:42So the neuroscience is really still in its infancy,
- 5:45but we're starting to learn more
- 5:47and more about how this illusion of self gets created.
- 5:51Part of it has to do with something called change blindness,
- 5:55which we know about in vision.
- 5:57We have a blind spot in our visual field
- 5:59that we are not conscious of,
- 6:00that we don't detect,
- 6:01and neuroscientists are just now starting to understand
- 6:05that there is a change blindness with respect
- 6:08to our experience over time,
- 6:10so that we don't notice how different each
- 6:14of our experiences in every moment are from every other,
- 6:19which adds to this illusion of being a solid entity
- 6:22that moves through time unchanged,
- 6:25and we also know that memory plays a role
- 6:28in creating this experience of self as well.
- 6:33There's a sense in which all of the memories
- 6:37that we have access to over time were being experienced
- 6:42by the same subject,
- 6:44and you can imagine if your memories weren't strung together
- 6:48and your experience was just of each present moment,
- 6:51there'd be much less of a sense
- 6:53of a self moving through time.
- 6:56We're also learning a little bit more
- 6:58about what neuroscientists refer to
- 7:00as the default mode network.
- 7:02So we know that when the default mode network is active,
- 7:06we are highly aware of this illusion of self,
- 7:10and it tends to quiet down when we're experiencing
- 7:13what people talk about as a flow state.
- 7:15So when we're very immersed in our work,
- 7:17if we're very immersed in a sport,
- 7:19when people are under the influence
- 7:21of some psychedelic substances,
- 7:23or various meditation techniques
- 7:25that quiet down the default mode network,
- 7:28we are not so aware of self versus other
- 7:32or self versus world,
- 7:34which is actually closer to the underlying reality.
- 7:40So many people find this realization
- 7:42to be quite disconcerting,
- 7:44which is understandable,
- 7:46and I think one way to address that is levels of usefulness.
- 7:50The vast majority of the time,
- 7:52it is not useful or helpful to realize
- 7:56that there's an illusion of sorts taking place.
- 7:59One example I like to give
- 8:01is that we more or less walk around with the illusion
- 8:04that the Earth is flat,
- 8:05and we act as though the Earth is flat,
- 8:07and that's the best way to go about our everyday lives.
- 8:09If we constantly reminded ourselves
- 8:12that the Earth is a sphere, and had to keep that in mind,
- 8:14and had to feel that way everywhere we went,
- 8:16it would just be an annoying distraction,
- 8:19and would get in the way of all kinds of activities
- 8:21and would not be helpful.
- 8:22And the same is true of the illusion of self
- 8:24and the illusion of free will.
- 8:27There are places where it's useful.
- 8:29It's useful, obviously, for the sciences
- 8:31and for neuroscience,
- 8:32but it actually can also be useful psychologically
- 8:36in certain circumstances, and again,
- 8:38this isn't something you wanna remind yourself of
- 8:39in every moment,
- 8:41but there are moments where realizing
- 8:44that there's an experience
- 8:47of conscious will taking place
- 8:51can be quite liberating.
- 8:55Many people get stuck in feeling responsible
- 8:58for their psychological state,
- 9:01and there's a way in which simply being
- 9:04with whatever uncomfortable emotions you're experiencing,
- 9:07whether it's sadness or frustration or anger,
- 9:11being with them rather than believing
- 9:14that you are controlling them can be extremely beneficial
- 9:18for psychological wellbeing.
- 9:21There are also ways
- 9:22that we can apply this in our relationships
- 9:24with other people.
- 9:26I sometimes talk about the fact
- 9:27that you would never get angry at a tornado,
- 9:30and that doesn't mean anger doesn't have a place
- 9:32in society and culture.
- 9:34But there are times when anger can overcome us
- 9:38and start to rule our lives in a way
- 9:41that is incredibly unhelpful and unhealthy,
- 9:45and when we understand
- 9:48that our brains are essentially processes playing out
- 9:51in nature,
- 9:52and there isn't a solid self to every person
- 9:57that is somehow evil
- 9:58or worthy of blame can also be liberating
- 10:02to notice in certain circumstances.
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