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- 0:00Welcome back to Byitesize Magic. My name
- 0:01is Zach and today we are doing a deck
- 0:03tech on Hasheton Scarab's Fist. This is
- 0:06a old commander that's seen quite a bit
- 0:08of a resurgence lately. It's been played
- 0:10in the Top Deck Invitational and it's
- 0:12been pioneered by Anthony or Glacial
- 0:14City. So, we're going to dive into what
- 0:16this deck does, how it wins, everything
- 0:18about Hashton, and let's jump right on
- 0:20in.
- 0:26Welcome back to Byitesize MTG. I'm Zach.
- 0:28Today I have Anthony Glacial City, the
- 0:31Hasheton Brewer, [music] the best
- 0:33performing Hasheton pilot of all time.
- 0:35Anthony, welcome. Super pumped to chat
- 0:36about this deck, your run at the
- 0:38Invitational.
- 0:38>> Great. Yeah, happy to be on. Yeah, my
- 0:40name is Anthony. I am the brewer of
- 0:44hashtton, Nivemizit, Rowan, Turtles,
- 0:48four mana, Troxa, and Galore. So,
- 0:51>> and can we not forget Thras Kaidell?
- 0:53>> Thras. Yes. And Thrasellas.
- 0:56>> And I run the Discords for them, too.
- 0:57So, yeah.
- 0:58>> Heck yeah. Yeah. So, if if any of y'all
- 1:00are interested in any of these decks, uh
- 1:02we'll have all of Anony's Discords
- 1:03below. You're welcome to jump in there,
- 1:05chat with him, chat with everyone else
- 1:07in there, you know, and and play some
- 1:08really really cool decks. But today, why
- 1:10don't we break down perhaps one of the
- 1:12most hyped commanders of all time and
- 1:14one of the biggest letdowns, I would
- 1:15say. Uh a card that everyone specked and
- 1:18thought was going to be insanely
- 1:20powerful and then did absolutely nothing
- 1:22until this season and really the end of
- 1:24the season. So why don't we just start
- 1:26by talking about like why you chose
- 1:29Hasheton, what the theory was,
- 1:30especially in terms of the invitational
- 1:33and why you felt like it was such a good
- 1:34pick.
- 1:35>> Yeah. So Hasheton was like Anakin
- 1:38Skywalker. It was the chosen one, you
- 1:40know, like everyone's like, "Oh my god,
- 1:42you know, like Reanimator is finally
- 1:44going to be good, you know, everybody
- 1:45like let's let's play this. It's broken.
- 1:48We get to play all the Esper good
- 1:51stuff." And I think people realize like,
- 1:53wait a second, Grizzle Brand is banned.
- 1:55Like nothing really crazy.
- 1:58>> Will we reanimate? [laughter]
- 1:59>> Yeah.
- 2:01>> And then like Ben Holden Pryo,
- 2:04>> another great brewer, he led people down
- 2:07this split second path
- 2:09>> and oh my god, too much mana. It's all
- 2:12that stuff. All that it's it's too much.
- 2:14It's we're in Esper. It is Sans Grul.
- 2:18And as anyone knows, uh, green and red
- 2:21is the mana of the format and espert
- 2:24does does not have that. Which leads me
- 2:25to why I played this. And that is I was
- 2:29doing a coaching session actually and it
- 2:31made me cuz I was talking about mana
- 2:33liberty.
- 2:34>> So when I coach people, I like to talk
- 2:36about uh a lot of different jargon for
- 2:38the game. So mana liberty is something
- 2:41your commander has slash deck or doesn't
- 2:44have, right? An example would be Kenan.
- 2:47Canon has mana liberty, right? And with
- 2:50mana liberty, with your deck making an
- 2:52excess amount of mana, it allows you to
- 2:54be able to play fluff cards. What is a
- 2:56fluff card? A fluff card would be like
- 2:58Lotus Cobra.
- 2:59>> It would be like Silven Library. Like
- 3:02these are cards that you really need to
- 3:03be able to play turn one, right? And
- 3:05then if you can't play these cards turn
- 3:07one, they're really awkward to to put
- 3:10into the deck and play at a at a later
- 3:12turn. But when you just have like all
- 3:14this mana and and cradles tapping and
- 3:17you know making 27 plus mana or whatever
- 3:20like you you can you can play a lot of
- 3:21like fluff cards. And so what Esper is
- 3:24is not any of that, right? And so it's
- 3:27not so when I
- 3:29>> Yeah. So like you're not going to see
- 3:30like smothering, you're not going to see
- 3:33flaming, you're not going to see lotho.
- 3:36Like I I can't play those. I can't play
- 3:38those turn one. Like I like I can't. And
- 3:40so I gave it basically the blueprint,
- 3:43the the non-mana liberty blueprint where
- 3:46every single deck, every single card
- 3:48choice is essentially a reflection of
- 3:50the lack of mana liberty. [music]
- 3:56And so why I played it for the
- 3:57invitational? Well, basically brewing
- 4:00with this non-existent man of liberty in
- 4:02mind, I thought I do not want to play
- 4:04without Demir. And shout out to Sylvie
- 4:07because we came to the same exact
- 4:09conclusion. Like at a minimum, I want to
- 4:11be able to tutor for wristic and fish. I
- 4:15never ended up doing that, funny enough.
- 4:18[laughter]
- 4:19>> It was it was good in all my practice,
- 4:22but it's a wristic fish deck. And so my
- 4:25thought process was this. They're going
- 4:27to disrespect the deck. Maybe they'll
- 4:28respect it. I don't I don't care because
- 4:30stopping hash is ex I don't want to say
- 4:33it's like impossible but it's incredibly
- 4:36incredibly difficult the way that I play
- 4:38it. You know, basically like I'm doing a
- 4:40bomb turn two and so like yeah, there's
- 4:42like the one two three and we'll I guess
- 4:44talk about that a little later.
- 4:46>> Yeah, we'll get into that. And and this
- 4:47is all seat dependent. Okay, this is all
- 4:49seat dependent. So I'm like I have
- 4:51strategies for seat one, seat two, seat
- 4:52three, uh seat four and I'm like bomb,
- 4:55right? Seeds one and two bombs coming
- 4:57down and then seed four I'm like I'm I'm
- 5:00gonna get that fish wristic esper
- 5:02>> and we're we're going to I'm either
- 5:05going to come back we're going to draw
- 5:06whatever I'm just not going to lose you
- 5:07know. Yeah. So but yeah shout out
- 5:08Sylvia. We came to the same conclusion
- 5:10about that. Yeah.
- 5:11>> Sylvie for those of you who don't know
- 5:13played Rona for this invitational. Also
- 5:15top 16. Really phenomenal pilot. We'll
- 5:17be doing a podcast as well about Rona
- 5:19soon. Yeah. Really top. So that's coming
- 5:21soon. But yeah I agree. the the Demir
- 5:23base tutors interaction, right? We're
- 5:26not relying on other people to save the
- 5:28day. We have counter spells and if we
- 5:30need to tutor, we can get any card in
- 5:32our deck and is hyper important in a
- 5:34game, especially at that top level in
- 5:36the invitational. I think it would be
- 5:37interesting to transition kind of into
- 5:40the list a little bit and are you okay
- 5:42if we go with the one two three kind of
- 5:45first to explain conceptually what the
- 5:47deck is doing and like the the curve
- 5:48that we're going along?
- 5:50>> Absolutely. Absolutely. So cool. This is
- 5:52this is
- 5:53>> Let me share my screen so I can just so
- 5:54people can kind of see what you're
- 5:55talking about.
- 5:56>> Oh yeah, you you control the screen. So
- 5:59you're going to have to be my guy. This
- 6:00Okay, I got you. Yeah. Yeah.
- 6:02>> By the way, this is this is going to be
- 6:04just the hasheton. What was it? Tech or
- 6:07whatever. This is also primer.
- 6:09>> Yeah, deck primer. But this is also
- 6:10essentially a coaching/b brewing lesson.
- 6:13So love it.
- 6:14>> I'm going to Yeah, I'm going to plug in
- 6:15my Vinmo. Get a refund from wherever you
- 6:18got coaching from. you know, unless it's
- 6:20Zach, you know, then you're good.
- 6:21[laughter]
- 6:23>> No, I I I've learned quite a bit from
- 6:25Anthony. The most recent like CDH
- 6:27lecture I did heavily inspired by
- 6:29Anthony. All the micro and macro
- 6:30concepts are are his uh that I borrowed
- 6:33and talked about. So, I'm I'm excited to
- 6:35learn. Oh, can we I learned this from
- 6:37comedian. Shout out to comedian up. Can
- 6:39we change the mana value to Yeah, there
- 6:42we go. Perfect. Yeah, that's it's so
- 6:45much better cuz it's
- 6:51And it it works really well, right, with
- 6:53the concept of the deck. So talk to me
- 6:54about like Hasheton in one, two, and
- 6:56three.
- 6:56>> Yeah. Okay. So every single Hasheton
- 6:59build was bad period and
- 7:02>> every and you could not watch a single
- 7:04video and and and you know there's a lot
- 7:07of like casual influence unfortunately
- 7:09that I think affected this brilliant
- 7:11commander here who who is broken.
- 7:14And so they were like psychic frog,
- 7:16psychic frog, psychic frog, frantic
- 7:18search, frantic search, you know.
- 7:20>> Smithering tithe, smothering tie,
- 7:22>> smithering tithe, smothering tithe,
- 7:24right? And it's like that's mana, mana,
- 7:25mana, mana, mana, and I don't have it,
- 7:28you know? So, so yeah. So, what I did
- 7:30was zero to one mana discard outlets,
- 7:33right? So, that if you play like Grand
- 7:35Cracked, by the way,
- 7:36>> so cracked
- 7:37>> Hless Researcher, not the best, but
- 7:39still it's blue and it's not dead if you
- 7:41draw it later. And we'll talk about that
- 7:43as well. Putrid impostable, tireless
- 7:46tribe. Obviously, Tireless Tribe and
- 7:47Putrid Imp are the best because they're
- 7:49the only discard outlets that are
- 7:50essentially infinite. That's just like
- 7:52And then if I could replace all of the
- 7:54Discord outlets with those, I would. But
- 7:56we'll see. Watsi. So yeah. So you go
- 7:58play the one turn one,
- 8:00>> you know, I love these plans. I built
- 8:01Rowan. I love these plans. Turn one, you
- 8:02play the discard outlet. Turn two, you
- 8:04play the hashton. And turn three, play
- 8:06that third mana source, and you drop the
- 8:08bomb.
- 8:09>> So yeah. Yeah. And usually the bomb is
- 8:11like a a bomb. It's not Grizzle Brand
- 8:13and they're not just going to lose the
- 8:14game.
- 8:15>> It could be Jen Taxis, which is the
- 8:17deck's best bomb and then you're in
- 8:19threat of losing the game. Uh but
- 8:21besides that, everything else is like
- 8:23playable. And then remind me also talk
- 8:26about why I have the bomb choices as
- 8:28well.
- 8:28>> Yeah, that's that's that's the game
- 8:30plan.
- 8:30>> Yeah. So like Anthony saying, turn one,
- 8:33we're looking again dependent on seed
- 8:35order, but turn one we're looking for
- 8:36these one mana discard outlets. There's
- 8:37quite a few in the deck. There's all
- 8:39these creatures. There's also these
- 8:40artifacts, the underworld cookbook and
- 8:42blood uh bloodthorn flail. Those are
- 8:44phenomenal as well. Let's not forget
- 8:46some other cheeky discard outlets that
- 8:48we'll get into later, i.e. foil unmask
- 8:51as well. Free discard outlet. And then
- 8:53turn two, we play our commander because
- 8:55we're in blue. We're not just losing the
- 8:57game. Like you have a plethora of free
- 8:59interaction to survive. And then that
- 9:01turn three is when you're getting the
- 9:03bombs. So, I think there's also a
- 9:04distinction to be made between bombs and
- 9:06the other part of this deck that is, I
- 9:08would say, pretty much unseen in my
- 9:10opinion, which is the rule of law
- 9:12effects. I think these kind of deserve a
- 9:14special conversation talking about why
- 9:16you saw these as being so impactful in
- 9:18this game plan. So, maybe we talk about
- 9:20your theory on rule of law, why you
- 9:22decided to play it in this deck, and
- 9:23then we can get into bomb choices and
- 9:25what you're kind of looking for
- 9:26dependent on what game you're kind of
- 9:28playing.
- 9:28>> Abs. Absolutely. Yeah. So just just to
- 9:31clarify
- 9:32>> the discard outlets also you know it's
- 9:35the same ruin logic that VV borrowed but
- 9:38it it is discard outlets and path to
- 9:40discard outlets
- 9:41>> right so you may see like the four five
- 9:44rate discard outlets right there but
- 9:46that you also need to include vampiric
- 9:47tutor scheming etc. Yeah. So, going to
- 9:50the rule of laws though to answer your
- 9:52question.
- 9:53>> Yeah. I'm I hate stacks. So, that's just
- 9:56like [laughter]
- 9:57>> I I do like stacks. I don't think stacks
- 9:59is like very good. I'm not a believer in
- 10:03cards like cursed totem or Drana like
- 10:06Lvala. Like those get popped and then
- 10:08they car and then they carry on. They
- 10:09win the game. Let's just get that just,
- 10:11you know, out there. But in Esper,
- 10:13right, we lack the mana. We're not as
- 10:15fast as other decks. And then this is
- 10:18not like, hey, let me just stack a bunch
- 10:20of stacks pieces so that I can basically
- 10:22do whatever I want and play like a
- 10:24three-hour game and like win the game.
- 10:26This this this deck does win fast. And
- 10:28what the rule laws are, how should I put
- 10:30it? It is a counter to the meta. It is a
- 10:32counter to ristic studies. This is a
- 10:34counter to turbo decks. It is a counter
- 10:36to everything honestly. And this deck in
- 10:39particular does a great job of actually
- 10:42playing with them unlike a bunch of
- 10:44other fake decks who don't, right? like
- 10:46I don't have to cast a bunch of cards.
- 10:49Like I will just keep discarding, drop
- 10:51bomb, discarding, drop bomb, discarding,
- 10:53drop bomb, and the game will end very
- 10:55quickly, right? Yeah.
- 10:56>> And so one thing I guess I'll talk about
- 10:58as well in addition to like rule of law
- 11:00is that when I view a deck, right, for
- 11:03any deck and my opponent's deck, all
- 11:05these cards have a number on them,
- 11:07right? And that number is time, right?
- 11:11So when I play a rule of law, I
- 11:14essentially gain back 20 minutes of time
- 11:17back into the clock because I've now
- 11:19limited everyone's game actions and I'm
- 11:21essentially still playing at the same
- 11:23exact, you know, axis. So something
- 11:25we'll probably talk about again, but
- 11:27yeah, rule laws important. They're also
- 11:29flash speed silence as well. So it's
- 11:32like if you can flash them in, you know,
- 11:34they play breach, put that in, it's
- 11:35over. So it's nice.
- 11:37>> Yeah. Yeah, it's really really cool. So
- 11:38interesting too to say like these
- 11:40actually speed up the hashton game plan,
- 11:43right? Because like you're saying
- 11:45because having your opponents and you
- 11:47only be able to cast one spell per turn,
- 11:48it means that you are going to be able
- 11:50to drop a bomb every single turn. As
- 11:52soon as you get six mana, you're
- 11:53dropping double bombs. This is all at
- 11:55flash speed. Similar to the idea of tyen
- 11:57where you can have rule of laws and you
- 12:00play through them super well because
- 12:01you're really not casting that many
- 12:02spells. So I do like that they're
- 12:04actually a way to increase the pace of
- 12:06the game. you decrease the amount of
- 12:08game actions your opponents are taking
- 12:09like you said. Also importantly, you
- 12:11decrease the amount of talking that goes
- 12:12on. There's not so much discussion over
- 12:14every spell that's cast. It's like you
- 12:16cast your one spell for turn and that's
- 12:18it. Uh did you find that you were
- 12:20playing a lot of Rule of Law in the
- 12:21invitational? Did you like land these
- 12:23pieces consistently?
- 12:24>> My testing for the deck has been all
- 12:26over the place, which is an amazing
- 12:28thing.
- 12:28>> Mhm.
- 12:28>> Like I could go like a whole testing
- 12:31session and never see a rule of law. I
- 12:33was under the belief that like if I saw
- 12:35a rule of law like I just won the game
- 12:38>> and and I I had a stream game which is
- 12:41easily looked up through critical EDH uh
- 12:44who covered the event day one and two
- 12:46but day one in particular if you're
- 12:48looking for my video like I top deck the
- 12:50two mana rule of law and like you could
- 12:54see basically what I'm cooking with
- 12:56right and if I wasn't playing against
- 12:58two judges who were playing extremely
- 13:00slow and asking how to play. I should
- 13:04have called a judge. Call a judge. Call
- 13:05a judge, guys. We have a video about
- 13:06this. Call a judge.
- 13:06>> Call a judge.
- 13:07>> Um, call a judge.
- 13:08>> Yeah. Like if if we just actually just
- 13:11get through, you know, like the turns. I
- 13:13dominate that game. And you can see
- 13:16basically everything that I'm saying
- 13:17translates. I just was pure in execution
- 13:20of calling it calling a a a judge. I
- 13:23don't know. I
- 13:24>> Yeah. Yeah.
- 13:29>> Yeah. So, the rule of laws have quite a
- 13:30bit of play in this deck. Uh you're on
- 13:33four right now, right? Yeah. Aethersworn
- 13:35Canon, Fraxian Sensor, Eylon of
- 13:37Rhetoric, and Archon of Ameria. Like you
- 13:39said, also really phenomenal at just
- 13:40silencing your opponents. And with
- 13:42Hashton's ability, they're all able to
- 13:43be play at flash speed. So you can set
- 13:45up turns where you're like turn one, you
- 13:47know, putm turn two hash. And then turn
- 13:49three, you just sit and you wait. And
- 13:51then someone pushes and you're like,
- 13:52"All right, here's a hashton activation.
- 13:54This is a rule of law." And it's it's
- 13:56quite difficult to stop. Aside from
- 13:58stifle, trickbind, that's really all
- 14:00that you can do to say no to hashaton.
- 14:02Things like graph diggers's cage, you
- 14:04know,
- 14:05>> I got the soul cauldron.
- 14:06>> I got the soul cauldron. Yeah. Do not
- 14:08work.
- 14:09>> No.
- 14:09>> So, stop doing it. Doesn't work. Please
- 14:12stop.
- 14:12>> Yeah.
- 14:13>> Um, [laughter]
- 14:16>> why don't we talk about some of these
- 14:17bombs, though? And and some of these
- 14:19bombs are not necessarily bomb bombs.
- 14:21Like, we have Poliwog Prodigy. Huge
- 14:23amount of card draw when it's a four.
- 14:25every non-creature spell that is what is
- 14:27it? Three or less mana versus everything
- 14:29in the game.
- 14:30>> Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Every every most
- 14:32most most CDH stable spells you're
- 14:33drawing cards. Do you want to kind of go
- 14:35through these in a specific order or do
- 14:36we want to just go through them in the
- 14:37deck list as they appear?
- 14:39>> Yeah, let's just go through them real
- 14:40quick. So, Esper sentel could be a 44
- 14:42bomb, you know, and then like Yeah, 44
- 14:45Esper. No one's paying for that.
- 14:47>> Not paying for that.
- 14:48>> No one's paying for that. Uh Polywalk
- 14:50Prody Bomb. skipping over the uh I'll
- 14:53talk about double bombing turn three
- 14:57>> maybe later but like a rule of law is
- 14:59like probably the best thing you can
- 15:01double bomb with turn three how you
- 15:03double bomb we'll talk about that I
- 15:05guess later glory is not a bomb glory is
- 15:09yeah we have to we pull up this one
- 15:13[laughter]
- 15:13>> one of the one of the coolest cards in
- 15:15CdH for those of you that don't know
- 15:17Gloria's three white white incarnation
- 15:21creature it has flying. It's a three
- 15:23three that has an activated ability. It
- 15:25says two and a white choose a color
- 15:26creatures you control gain protection
- 15:27from the chosen color until end of turn.
- 15:29Activate only if this card is in your
- 15:31graveyard. Right? So pretty unplayable
- 15:33for most decks. This is in the same
- 15:36cycle of like anger and I believe wonder
- 15:38I think that gives creatures flying. But
- 15:40you need to put this in your yard and
- 15:41then you just have to pay this three
- 15:42mana and you can do this as many times
- 15:44as you'd like and you essentially just
- 15:46give all of your creatures protection.
- 15:48Put someone on Chain of Vapors. You're
- 15:49like, "All right, discard glory.
- 15:51Activate glory. Three mana. Boom. All my
- 15:53creatures are pro blue."
- 15:54>> Yeah. Can you Can you repeat once again
- 15:56where you activate the ability from?
- 15:58Activate only if this card is in your
- 16:01graveyard. In the graveyard.
- 16:03>> Mhm.
- 16:04>> So, it's forever.
- 16:05>> Yeah. That's just nuts. Yeah. It's like
- 16:07you have to endurance me basically to
- 16:09get this out of the yard and and stop
- 16:12from being impactful on the board. Yeah.
- 16:14Super duper hard to stop. Right. Very
- 16:16very difficult. It's essentially saying
- 16:18you're going to need double removal if
- 16:19you want to get through.
- 16:20>> Correct. Really really cool card. Yeah.
- 16:22Modok card that I think has not seen
- 16:25enough play. I I think this card is just
- 16:27phenomenal. I imagine I'm I'm curious
- 16:29like in testing and in Envy like how
- 16:31this card worked for you if you felt
- 16:33like it was pulling its weight.
- 16:34>> Yeah, it it definitely just can win the
- 16:36game by itself. It has lifelink flying
- 16:39for whatever reason. Um, it's its own
- 16:42discard outlet. And you actually showed
- 16:44me something when me for when I first
- 16:46played against dude. You're like, you
- 16:47can, you know, like get the lands. I
- 16:49forgot exactly what it was, but it was
- 16:50like u you're like, yeah, keep digging,
- 16:52play the land, and then once you play
- 16:54the land, it doesn't matter that you
- 16:56have no cards in hand because it's just
- 16:58you're just going to discard it anyway.
- 16:59And it's like
- 17:00>> light bulb, you know?
- 17:02>> So yeah, it it it has the minus one for
- 17:06creatures.
- 17:07>> Insane,
- 17:08>> which is insane. Yeah, it'll it'll wipe
- 17:10all the Thorks away, all the Esperinals
- 17:12away, all the Ragavans away, all the
- 17:13flying ragavans and flying espressos.
- 17:15>> Completely destroys Thoras like Thrasius
- 17:18just ceases to exist in the game as soon
- 17:20as this card lands.
- 17:21>> Yeah, a Boro Breeze caller.
- 17:22>> Yeah.
- 17:23>> Where you at?
- 17:23>> Yeah. [laughter] But yeah,
- 17:26>> it gets big. It gets big quick, too.
- 17:28>> Yeah, cuz it starts as a four.
- 17:30>> Yeah, you could you could swing kill
- 17:31people, but gas. Solitude and subtlety
- 17:35both I suppose able to be bombs but also
- 17:39just being able to pitch cast these
- 17:40spells is is quite phenomenal. The fact
- 17:42that you can also just discard a
- 17:43subtlety and subtlety a creature without
- 17:46even putting this spell on the stack is
- 17:47nuts. I I think that's phenomenal. So
- 17:49you have I'd say interaction slots in
- 17:51these also able to be bombs, but I'm
- 17:54sure more often than not you'd like to
- 17:55just evoke them.
- 17:56>> Correct. Correct. So I have a rule for
- 17:58bombs. My rule for bombs is like
- 18:01exceptions to consecrated sphinx. my
- 18:02least favorite bomb, by the way.
- 18:04>> Mhm.
- 18:04>> I I don't want to play bombs that can be
- 18:07cloned and essentially I lose the game.
- 18:09>> Yeah.
- 18:10>> And I don't want to which is solitude.
- 18:12>> That's not something I normally want to
- 18:16like I just want to evoke it, you know?
- 18:18>> Yeah.
- 18:18>> So, but yeah, that that's the rule is
- 18:20like they got to be able to be cloned
- 18:22and I'm not like devastated that they've
- 18:24that they've cloned it essentially.
- 18:26Makes sense. And if I have played
- 18:27something that could be cloned like
- 18:29Razakth, you're probably just losing the
- 18:32game anyway. Hopefully.
- 18:33>> Yeah.
- 18:33>> Mhm. Yeah. Yeah. Razicth really being a
- 18:36finisher in this deck more than like a
- 18:38I'm going to value Razaketh. Right.
- 18:41>> Right. Yeah. There's there's no there is
- 18:42no there is no value Razaketh. So
- 18:44>> yeah. [laughter] Yeah.
- 18:46>> Yeah. We have Tefairy. Phenomenal. being
- 18:49able to like essentially silence your
- 18:52opponents or make them play at sorcery
- 18:53speed and being able to play at flash
- 18:55speed yourself. Sea Sphinx obviously
- 18:57being quite quite powerful, but like you
- 18:59said, and I've seen a game, right, where
- 19:01you you hashed this into play, it got
- 19:03cloned, the game exploded, you know, so
- 19:05playing this with a lot of care is
- 19:07really really important.
- 19:08>> Yeah. Yeah. I hate that card. [laughter]
- 19:12>> Sire of stagnation. This is four blue
- 19:14black for a 57. It's devoid. Whenever a
- 19:17land enters the battlefield under an
- 19:18opponent's control, that player exiles
- 19:20the top two cards of his or her library,
- 19:22and you draw two cards. So, stripping
- 19:25resources from your opponents, drawing
- 19:27cards every time lands are played. It's
- 19:28not even played, but lands entering. So,
- 19:30when you fetch, I draw four cards, and
- 19:33you exile four cards from top of your
- 19:34library. Gone forever.
- 19:35>> Yeah. Fascio. Yeah.
- 19:37>> Yeah. [laughter] Really, really, really
- 19:39cool card. Sun Titan being something I
- 19:42haven't seen since I played Casual EDH a
- 19:44few years ago, but being able to enter
- 19:46and attack return a permanent card with
- 19:49converted mana cost real estate to the
- 19:51battlefield. So essentially Savine's
- 19:53Reclamation on a stick, right, that's
- 19:56whenever you attack. What's kind of the
- 19:57thought process around this card?
- 19:58Sunshine is is Oh boy. Uh is amazing.
- 20:01[laughter]
- 20:02>> Yeah, it gets back LED. So you can like
- 20:05crack LED some Titan sometimes back LED
- 20:08recrack LED get back whatever bomb that
- 20:10you actually wanted gets back rule of
- 20:12law helps you double rule of law gets
- 20:13back a land like and so that's like kind
- 20:16of like your fake ramp as well.
- 20:18>> Yeah. And he and he has colors so he can
- 20:20be pitched to solitude which is like
- 20:23>> I'm I'm really big about being able to
- 20:25pitch dead cards from your hands which
- 20:27is why like you'll see like currently on
- 20:28the bottom left it's 97. void winter
- 20:31where it was in but I just really hate
- 20:33that it's colorless.
- 20:34>> Yeah.
- 20:34>> So, we'll talk about that later. But
- 20:35yeah.
- 20:36>> Yeah,
- 20:36>> Sun Titan is amazing and it and it gets
- 20:38back fish and wristic, too. So, if you
- 20:40have like those in hand, crack, lose
- 20:42your whole hand, get back the fish and
- 20:43wristic happens a lot. That's pretty
- 20:44sick. Yeah. So, you can go into a play
- 20:46pattern where it's turn one, you know,
- 20:48vamp tutor for LED, turn two, hashtton
- 20:50LED, sun Titan, crack the LED, get the
- 20:53wristic back that's in your hand, and
- 20:55then next turn you're just getting back
- 20:56the LED. You're drawing a bunch of cards
- 20:58off the wristic study. really really
- 21:00cool to have this in the deck as as a
- 21:02tech piece. Next is Doc O or Dr. Octopus
- 21:05Master Planner. Five blue black for 48.
- 21:08Other villains you control get plus two
- 21:09plus two. I think only Modok is another
- 21:12villain. I'm not sure if there's more.
- 21:14Yeah, but that's kind of fun. Your
- 21:16maximum hand size is eight at the
- 21:18beginning of your end step. If you have
- 21:19fewer than eight cards in hands, draw
- 21:21cards equal to the difference. So, I
- 21:23mean, wow, what a what a great card to
- 21:25have on turn two with an LED, right?
- 21:27just im immediately refill your hand, be
- 21:29able to, you know, get all the counter
- 21:30spells that you would need to survive,
- 21:32go to your next turn, draw up to eight
- 21:34again, right? Like really really cool to
- 21:36have this in the deck. And I I this is
- 21:39one of my more favorite bombs in the
- 21:41deck. It's kind of like the string taxis
- 21:43without the downside for your opponents.
- 21:44>> Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. You just you
- 21:47just want to It's It's one of those
- 21:48great LED cracks.
- 21:50>> We fill your whole hand back to eights.
- 21:52Um, it probably will only happen once
- 21:54unless you have like petri damp, but
- 21:55it's a it's great. It's all you need.
- 21:57>> Yeah, it's sweet. Ellisnorn inferexian
- 22:00for any of those who have not played
- 22:01against Ellishnorn. This is five white
- 22:03white for a 47. Vigilance's other
- 22:05creatures you control get plus two plus
- 22:06two. So, it's going to create the beats
- 22:07plan that is is quite good in this deck.
- 22:09And then creatures your opponents
- 22:10control get minus two minus two. So, we
- 22:12have another effect that just hoses
- 22:14every creature deck. Magda, Arkham,
- 22:16Thracios, Kinnan, Timna, like Ellisnorn
- 22:19pretty much invalidates every deck in
- 22:21the format, you know, not literally
- 22:23every deck, but most decks. It's really
- 22:25hard to play through an Elishnorn. So,
- 22:27just having this at instant speed is
- 22:29pretty insane.
- 22:29>> Yeah, if I could play three of them,
- 22:31three more, I I probably would.
- 22:33>> Yeah. [laughter]
- 22:34Yeah. Yeah. That's hot. Nezahal just
- 22:36being a phenomenal card draw outlet.
- 22:38Just another Mystic Remora essentially.
- 22:40Ori plates sacker. This is a new one
- 22:41that I haven't seen yet. Uh, this is
- 22:43five white for a three legendary
- 22:46creature dwarf bard. When AI enters,
- 22:48destroy all artifacts and enchantments
- 22:49your opponent's control. You gain one
- 22:50life for each permanent destroyed this
- 22:52way. So, basically just saying we're not
- 22:54playing slop anymore. You have entered
- 22:56the dark age. Uh, be very afraid. Yeah,
- 22:58the game is not going to draw. And that
- 23:00was the whole point of playing Hasheton
- 23:01is like I Yeah, it was it was just to
- 23:04break parody on draws. And this this
- 23:06card says, oh, you have, you know, 100
- 23:09mana from your smothering. No more. No
- 23:12more.
- 23:13>> It is gone. And your smothering tide is
- 23:16also gone.
- 23:17>> Yeah. So, this is really, really cool.
- 23:19Yeah. Another card I'm curious about is
- 23:21is Runescar Demon. We've talked a little
- 23:22bit about this. Essentially, this is a
- 23:25uh demonic tutor.
- 23:26>> Yeah.
- 23:26>> On a creature.
- 23:27>> Yeah. Instant speed.
- 23:27>> Instant speed demonic tutor. Another
- 23:29card that says, "I'm not losing this
- 23:30game, right? I'm going to discard this.
- 23:32I'm going to find a force of will. I'm
- 23:33going to discard this. I'm going to find
- 23:34whatever piece I need that will stop the
- 23:37current win or advantage state that's
- 23:39going on right now."
- 23:40>> Yeah. it when I use it. People ask like
- 23:43usually the two things I get is Tefairy
- 23:45and Rasa. That's like
- 23:48>> that's like usually the main two things
- 23:50it it gets instant speed cuz I'm usually
- 23:52trying to win like instant speed. So
- 23:54>> yeah, and we'll we'll go into winning
- 23:56with this deck as well cuz it's turning
- 23:58the corner isn't it's not easy and and
- 24:00going through the whole Razicth line is
- 24:01something that I think people will find
- 24:03really valuable.
- 24:04>> Another new one that I haven't seen
- 24:05before is Baleful Force. uh
- 24:07[clears throat] beginning of each
- 24:08upkeep, you draw a card and lose a life.
- 24:11So, this is essentially saying the turn
- 24:12I play it, I'm going to draw three cards
- 24:14and then every turn after I draw four
- 24:16cards per turn cycle. So, I think from
- 24:18my perspective, this doesn't seem like
- 24:20uber uber powerful, but it's really not
- 24:22bad. Four cards a turn is is never bad.
- 24:25Did you kind of just find this and say,
- 24:26"Hey, let's put another card draw effect
- 24:28in this deck."
- 24:29>> No, this card is better than consecrated
- 24:30sphinx. It is like [laughter]
- 24:32it is like fair consecrated sphinx. No
- 24:34one cares about it. People aren't
- 24:36freaking out. People are not freaking
- 24:38out. And this card helped me win a game
- 24:43where Consecrated Sphinx wouldn't like
- 24:45in my invitational match when I played
- 24:47against Sterling, Little Flips, Jason,
- 24:50TNK. Yeah, that pot. So yeah, it was it
- 24:54drawing that extra card in my upkeep.
- 24:57Clutch.
- 24:58>> That's how you Yeah. Hell yeah. Razicth
- 25:00again card that we do not see in CDH
- 25:02almost at all. Five black black for an
- 25:0588 flying trample legendary creature
- 25:07demon. Pay two life. Sacrifice another
- 25:09creature. Search your library for a
- 25:10card. Put that card into your hand then
- 25:13shuffle. So essentially repeatable
- 25:15demonic tutor for as many creatures as
- 25:17you have and as much two life as you'd
- 25:19like to pay. This is how you're winning
- 25:21the game a lot of the time if I'm if I'm
- 25:23right on that. And I think maybe once we
- 25:25go through some of the other cards in
- 25:27this deck. Again, aside from the
- 25:29creature suite, a lot of this is
- 25:30relatively self-explanatory, so it
- 25:32doesn't need to take too too much time.
- 25:33We'll go through how Razicth works and
- 25:35how you really win with this card and
- 25:37when you win with this card, right?
- 25:39>> Yeah. The window of opportunity.
- 25:40>> Yeah.
- 25:41>> Yeah. It it also sacks the rule of law.
- 25:43So, when you're done playing with the
- 25:45rule of laws, then you're like, it's
- 25:47time to win.
- 25:48>> Yeah. And I'm also not casting the
- 25:50spell, so [laughter]
- 25:52>> it's just coming into play. This is
- 25:53coming into play. So yeah, it's hot.
- 25:55>> Yeah.
- 25:56>> Villis five black black legendary
- 25:58creature demon 88 with flying black. Pay
- 26:01two life. Target creature gets minus one
- 26:02minus one until end of turn. Whenever
- 26:04you lose life, draw that many cards.
- 26:06>> Yeah. Really crazy card draw. Amazing
- 26:09spot removal, right?
- 26:10>> Yeah. He's technically like the second
- 26:13or third best bomb in the deck. And if
- 26:16if if you if you land because removing
- 26:18creatures and drawing cards at the same
- 26:20time is like it it is backbreaking game
- 26:22ending. But if if you can play the bills
- 26:25correctly, it will win you the game or
- 26:28it'll kill you. But [laughter]
- 26:32>> it's it's just too powerful not not to
- 26:35play. And uh it's so great too cuz it's
- 26:38like swing at me, swing at me, draw
- 26:40cards. Like yes, great.
- 26:41>> Well, I'll I'll take the Tim D.
- 26:44[laughter] I promise. I won't block. I
- 26:46won't block. Oh, it's so funny. The one
- 26:49thing I have a question about in regards
- 26:50to manner liberty is this doesn't quite
- 26:52line up with the linear progression of
- 26:56one, two, three, right, where turn one
- 26:57we have our discount outlet, turn two we
- 26:59have our hasheton, and turn three we
- 27:00have our our our bomb, right? Cuz it's
- 27:02like turn three I'm discarding Villis.
- 27:04I'm using the three lands that I have uh
- 27:06and curved out on and I'm not able to
- 27:07access this the turn that I drop the
- 27:10bomb. So, how does that work with that
- 27:12concept of mana liberty we talked about
- 27:14earlier?
- 27:14>> Yeah, it doesn't. But if you look at the
- 27:16land base, there's a lot of lands like
- 27:19I'm not I'm not playing the if you have
- 27:22two other opponents, those are replaced
- 27:24with the Yeah, those ones. So, you know,
- 27:27a little bit of some row second in there
- 27:29like
- 27:30>> you got ways to lose life in this deck.
- 27:32So, you will you will be drawing cards
- 27:34without having to be able to use his
- 27:36ability.
- 27:37>> So,
- 27:38>> okay. Valgoth terror eater. Again, I'm
- 27:41sure many people have never seen this
- 27:43card before. This is six black, black,
- 27:45black for a 99 legendary creature, elder
- 27:48demon with flying and lifelink ward.
- 27:50Sacrifice three non-line permanence.
- 27:52You're never removing this thing. Uh if
- 27:54you are, you're just completely
- 27:55stripping yourself of everything you
- 27:56could want.
- 27:56>> Do that. If a card Yeah. If a card you
- 27:59don't control would be put into an
- 28:00opponent's graveyard from anywhere,
- 28:02exile instead. During your turn, you may
- 28:04play cards exile with Valgoth. If you
- 28:07have if you cast a spell this way, pay
- 28:10life equal to the mana value rather than
- 28:12pay its mana cost. So just kind of like
- 28:14a crazy dowy void walker, right? This is
- 28:16like dowy on mega steroids. And it
- 28:19synergizes again with the the next bomb
- 28:21we'll talk about which is Jingga Taxis
- 28:23where it's like if I can go back to back
- 28:25with these two. You all discard your
- 28:27hands. I get to play all of these
- 28:29spells. I'm 100% winning the game.
- 28:31>> Yeah. [music]
- 28:35I I guess I guess we'll talk about the
- 28:37the play pattern a little bit. So like
- 28:39>> Yeah.
- 28:40>> I mean it's those last four cards are
- 28:43probably like the best bombs like
- 28:45>> Yeah. The one two Yeah.
- 28:47>> So when you play hash, right, you can
- 28:50turn one tutor for let's say LED, which
- 28:53is like probably one of my favorite
- 28:54things you could do with the deck.
- 28:56>> And then turn two you play hash,
- 28:58>> right? And so you could immediately
- 29:00instantly crack it and then play out
- 29:02your bomb. Mhm.
- 29:04>> But this is where like the skill part
- 29:05comes in and it's like, do I want to
- 29:09wait another turn so I can double bomb,
- 29:12right? Or do I need the card draw now?
- 29:14>> Right. So timing is huge.
- 29:16>> Mhm.
- 29:16>> And if you think about it too, right,
- 29:18it's like
- 29:19>> LED comes in and then hash comes in.
- 29:22>> Mhm.
- 29:22>> So if there is like removal, there's no
- 29:24real good point to cast it.
- 29:26>> Sure.
- 29:27>> Yeah.
- 29:27>> Yeah. And that's uh going back to like
- 29:30the Jason game for example. Mhm.
- 29:32>> I had Villis, Voidwinter, Valkaboth
- 29:35>> as like my three bomb choices. Oh, or
- 29:38no, sorry, not Villis. Uh, Baleful
- 29:40Force.
- 29:42>> Yeah, a B. Yeah, Baleful Force. And so I
- 29:44was like, I'm going to wait turn three
- 29:49and play my third mana source so I have
- 29:51six mana. So when I discard everything,
- 29:53I can double bomb. Yeah. Oh. Oh, and I
- 29:54had like force of will as well. So, my
- 29:56my hand was super cracked.
- 29:57>> Luckily, Jason finally sent it. I
- 30:00finally got cuz I waited. I missed out
- 30:01on a lot of draw. Like all the bailful
- 30:03force draws I could have I could have
- 30:05received. I missed out on all of them
- 30:06just in hopes I could catch Jason going
- 30:08for it cuz all in our game that's I mean
- 30:11that's what he does. He likes to go for
- 30:12it. So I'm like I'm going to catch him.
- 30:13And I did. I caught him. So I forcal
- 30:15willed his Adnazium held priority
- 30:17cracked LED. So the adnauseium went
- 30:19under the vagaboth and then I adnauseium
- 30:23I had bale force and vagaboth. Baleful
- 30:25force got me like fluster storm.
- 30:27>> I adnauseium and dark ritual in my turn
- 30:31and fluster stormed away all the counter
- 30:33magic and won the game.
- 30:34>> Nice. Yeah,
- 30:35>> adnauseium in this deck is a bold
- 30:38decision. I would say [laughter]
- 30:41is bold like seven seven [laughter] n 11
- 30:46I'm dead.
- 30:47Yeah, I went to four health and was
- 30:49like, I have to I have to stop there.
- 30:51>> I think I [laughter] have to stop.
- 30:54>> Yeah, that's funny. Yeah, but you were
- 30:56able to convert the nause, right? Where?
- 30:58And I'm get kind of curious like what
- 30:59that looked like post nause at four
- 31:01life. Like how did you say, "Okay, I'm
- 31:03converting here now."
- 31:04>> Uh I prayed to grasp I prayed his grasp
- 31:06Jason's deck. I just played with his
- 31:08deck for the rest of that game.
- 31:10>> Interesting.
- 31:11>> Okay, very cool.
- 31:12>> Yeah, I used all his cards to win.
- 31:15>> [laughter]
- 31:15[gasps]
- 31:16>> It's a team win right there.
- 31:17>> Yeah.
- 31:18>> Thanks, coach.
- 31:20>> Yeah.
- 31:24>> And our last bomb that you were talking
- 31:26about, you know, and this is really a
- 31:28back breaker because it's so accessible
- 31:30on turn two. And this is Jingax's core
- 31:32augur. Eight blue blue legendary
- 31:34creature Forexium prader has flash. I
- 31:36don't know why. And it's a 5-4. The
- 31:38beginning of your end step, draw seven
- 31:40cards. Each opponent's maximum hand size
- 31:42is reduced by seven. Essentially, this
- 31:44is saying on turn two, and I'm imagining
- 31:46most the time, if not every time, the
- 31:48plan is turn two at sorcery speed, I'm
- 31:50going to Jenga Taxis, refill my hand,
- 31:52and then you all have a single turn to
- 31:55deal with this or win the game. And if
- 31:57you do not, you will all have no hands,
- 31:59and I will have a full grip, and I'm
- 32:01just going to go into my next turn and
- 32:02and present a win.
- 32:03>> Ex. Yeah, ex. It's my favorite bomb. If
- 32:05this card didn't exist, I wouldn't play
- 32:06this deck.
- 32:07>> Interesting. Okay. Very, very cool.
- 32:09Yeah. Yeah. I I think this card is
- 32:11phenomenal, especially with LED. Like
- 32:12that play pattern on turn two is just
- 32:14extremely powerful.
- 32:15>> Yeah. I mean, it it just if you I mean,
- 32:17you could play it turn one, you know,
- 32:19there's there's ways, but it comes out
- 32:20turn two like I mean often like this
- 32:22like you know, Dark Ritual, like Necro,
- 32:25like this is this is like your thing
- 32:27that you do.
- 32:28>> Yeah.
- 32:28>> And then everyone's on a clock. So,
- 32:31>> and if they remove it, who cares? You do
- 32:33seven cards. Who cares? Yeah. So,
- 32:34>> Right.
- 32:35>> Right. Right. and and they have to use
- 32:37removal on it and you go into your next
- 32:39turn and you have another bomb. Yeah.
- 32:41>> Yeah. Who cares?
- 32:42>> That's sweet. Continually presenting
- 32:43threats.
- 32:44>> Yeah.
- 32:44>> Okay. Awesome. Let's transition again.
- 32:47Tutor. Tutor. Tutor. Tutor. Unmask,
- 32:50which is I'd say most of the time a
- 32:52discard outlet for you if that's
- 32:53correct. It is a discard outlet. Yes, it
- 32:56is. It is a discard outlet for me. It
- 32:58will be more I think I'm going to play
- 32:59Meme Betrayal because I my game of
- 33:01Sylvie made me realize like how strong
- 33:03Mean Betrayal is. I I played it before.
- 33:05Mhm.
- 33:06>> But basically like it's mostly for me
- 33:08and seat four is for you [laughter]
- 33:11>> and then like if you have like the
- 33:13breach or brain freeze in hand, you
- 33:16know, I want I'm going to want to make
- 33:18you discard it and then me betray it is
- 33:20essentially what I'm going want to do in
- 33:22the future with that. So sweet. I think
- 33:25that's awesome.
- 33:26>> Yeah.
- 33:26>> Oh. Oh, by the way, uh Prader's Grasp.
- 33:30>> Yeah.
- 33:30>> So it's still on the curve. So you can
- 33:32still turn one nothing turn two hash
- 33:36turn three pisto graphs get someone
- 33:38else's LED cast it ripen
- 33:40>> nice okay so technically another outlet
- 33:43or another thing that is on curve on the
- 33:45one 123 plan
- 33:46>> yeah really cool that's awesome instance
- 33:48suite a lot of these again are wellknown
- 33:50we'll go through some of the ones that
- 33:51are cool we have packed negation demonic
- 33:53consultation enlightened tutor wristic
- 33:56study fish led etc fluster storm mental
- 34:00misstep spell snare really reach it into
- 34:02the into the counter spell coffers for
- 34:04this one. I love it. Stubborn denial,
- 34:06great and hash uh just because you do
- 34:08control those creatures with power for
- 34:09greater quite a bit of the time.
- 34:10Vampiric tutor, days, disrupting troll,
- 34:13snapback, taint impact, fierce
- 34:15guardianship, force and negation, deadly
- 34:16rollic foil. So foil some people have
- 34:19never heard of. Uh I I've never seen
- 34:21anyone play this spell except Anthony.
- 34:23This is two blue blue. It's an instant.
- 34:24Says you may discard an island card and
- 34:26another card rather than pay the spell's
- 34:28mana cost. Counter target spell. So this
- 34:30is another free counter spell. The
- 34:32restriction being that you have to
- 34:33discard an island of which we play see
- 34:38one two three four. Right.
- 34:42>> Correct.
- 34:43>> Yeah. So you have four lands that will
- 34:45make turn this online. And you can also
- 34:47discard a bomb and activate and have a
- 34:50hash trigger.
- 34:50>> Yeah. Super relevant. Actually, there's
- 34:52games I've won where like I cast
- 34:54something like snuff out instant speed
- 34:56and then discard like the thoracle and
- 34:58then go for game. and my upkeep in
- 35:00response to like a pack trigger or
- 35:02something.
- 35:02>> That's hot.
- 35:03>> Yeah, that's really hot. Sweet.
- 35:04Mindbreak trap. Snuff out. Contagion. If
- 35:07you're playing Euro, you know this card.
- 35:08Three black black. You may pay one life
- 35:10and remove a black card in your hand
- 35:12from the game rather than pay
- 35:13Contagion's mana cost. Distribute two
- 35:16-2gative1 counters among one or two
- 35:19target creatures. So, yet another piece
- 35:22of free removal. It deals with two
- 35:24different things. It can it can put, you
- 35:26know, neg two on one thing. It's all
- 35:28instant speed. It's essentially black
- 35:30force of will that removes creatures.
- 35:32>> Yeah. If if you're sick and tired of
- 35:34reagans swinging at you and
- 35:37>> esper and flying mocking bird espers,
- 35:40you know, then it's like a little mini
- 35:42board wipe. And if you hate si playing
- 35:44against ceay, then just lower that power
- 35:48permanently. Yeah.
- 35:49>> Force of will, misdirection, submerge.
- 35:51If an opponent controls a forest, you
- 35:53control an island, you may play submerge
- 35:54without paying its mana cost. Put target
- 35:56creature on top of its owner's library.
- 35:58So really even better than a bounce
- 35:59spell. This is putting something into a
- 36:01zone that is inaccessible to your
- 36:03opponents. So you just deal with
- 36:04something a little more permanently.
- 36:06Really nice. You are on so much removal
- 36:08in this deck which I think is a premium
- 36:10right now. And then commander of course
- 36:11uh which is the the newest counter spell
- 36:13that everyone is playing.
- 36:15>> Yeah.
- 36:15>> And it is just so good. So So going back
- 36:18to man of liberty here like there's no
- 36:20swan song fluster you just you have to
- 36:22play I think in any and every blue deck
- 36:24especially when the rule of laws pop and
- 36:26people start jamming. You got to fluster
- 36:28them out. Everything is free, right?
- 36:30Like besides like spell snare cuz I hate
- 36:32Grand Abolers,
- 36:34>> breaches, thoracicles,
- 36:36>> granabolers.
- 36:36>> Wind conditions.
- 36:38>> Wind conditions, defense.
- 36:39>> Yeah. Aboras. Yeah.
- 36:41>> Abor get those out of here.
- 36:43>> Mhm.
- 36:43>> And then and then stubborn, but like
- 36:46besides basic spell and stubborn, right?
- 36:48like everything is free because
- 36:51>> when you when you're doing like the one
- 36:53two three you and then let's say like
- 36:55you discard your whole hand you're
- 36:56tapped out and you draw seven eight
- 36:58cards
- 36:59>> you it has to be free you can't cast all
- 37:02the other stuff that costs mana which
- 37:04goes back into mana liberty in this deck
- 37:06this is something people have missed too
- 37:07like this deck truly take advantage of
- 37:09you don't make mana so don't play
- 37:11require mana you know
- 37:13>> yeah like you like we were saying
- 37:14earlier you don't see Lotho in this deck
- 37:16you don't see Tatarotu You don't see
- 37:18smothering tithe, right? You don't see
- 37:21>> Gleaming Splender. Thank you. Yeah. It's
- 37:23like we're not playing these these cards
- 37:25that are engines for mana. We are just
- 37:27curving out into the one two three and
- 37:29it's very linear. It's not supposed to
- 37:31have a lot of fluff around it, right?
- 37:33>> No fluff.
- 37:33>> Yeah. No fluff.
- 37:34>> Just bombs.
- 37:36>> Yeah. Just no fluff, just bombs. And
- 37:37then in our artifacts suite, we have
- 37:39Chromox LED, lotus pedal, Mox Amber, Mox
- 37:42Diamond, Bloodthorn Flail, which we said
- 37:44earlier is another discard outlet, Soul
- 37:46Ring, and the Underworld Cookbook, which
- 37:49is another discard outlet.
- 37:50>> Yeah.
- 37:50>> Yeah. Very simple.
- 37:51>> Mox Opal may or not go in there. You
- 37:53just draw so many cards, so it's like
- 37:54>> Yeah,
- 37:55>> it probably is going in cuz just you
- 37:56just draw so many cards. It's just
- 37:58>> Yeah.
- 37:59>> Just get a little more free mana. Yeah.
- 38:01>> Get the double bombs up quicker.
- 38:03>> Get Yeah. Yeah. And then the lands are
- 38:05not really anything special besides like
- 38:07the pain lands or saga's cracked.
- 38:09>> Yeah,
- 38:09>> they can watch the stream games want to
- 38:11see how force seat Öza saga somehow
- 38:13makes you arch enemy. [laughter]
- 38:16>> He's going to win.
- 38:18>> Yeah,
- 38:18>> that's so funny.
- 38:19>> Yeah.
- 38:24>> So, one one thing I do want to help
- 38:27people with is transitioning to the
- 38:30brewing mode, right? Like what did I,
- 38:32you know, do differently? numbers,
- 38:34right?
- 38:34>> Let's talk numbers.
- 38:35>> Let's talk numbers.
- 38:36>> Yeah.
- 38:36>> Yeah. Okay. So, just using Moxfield, uh
- 38:40you'll Yeah. We'll have you do
- 38:41everything here. So, I have basically
- 38:43the list memorized, right? So, people
- 38:46will say like, "Oh, hey, Anthony. Hey,
- 38:49Glacial City. What What is the correct
- 38:52number of discard outlets should I run?"
- 38:55Like, what is the correct number? Is
- 38:56there a correct number? Do you think
- 38:58there's a correct number, Zach?
- 38:59>> Uh I I don't know that there is, but I
- 39:01assume that there is. Yeah, like right.
- 39:03It's like I assume there is. Well, yes.
- 39:05The answer is yes. So,
- 39:07>> if you I like to use this as an example,
- 39:09right? How many lands do decks
- 39:11stereotypically play?
- 39:12>> Anywhere from 23 to 27.
- 39:15>> Yeah, I would I would say 28 is usually
- 39:18like the standard, right? And so when
- 39:20you have 28 lands, right? And Mox
- 39:22Moxfield is is so nice. So, let's let's
- 39:25scroll. Let's scroll down. Mox. Keep
- 39:28going. Keep going. Oh, right there.
- 39:30Right there. Whoa. Right there. The
- 39:31average number of lands in your opening
- 39:33hand is 2.04,
- 39:36right? Because I
- 39:37>> I play 28 lands. So like the the answer
- 39:40is two, right?
- 39:42>> So in each fresh seven, I can
- 39:46essentially the probability of having
- 39:48two lands. It's it's two. 28 is two. And
- 39:51so what does that mean for discard
- 39:52outlets, right? And this is something
- 39:53that that you can apply to other decks
- 39:56as well, but we're just going to use
- 39:57hash as an example, right? M you're
- 39:59going to you want one discard outlet,
- 40:01right? You want one discard outlet,
- 40:02which means the number you're looking
- 40:04for is 14. And if I recall correctly,
- 40:07that essentially is like that's 2.04. 14
- 40:10is like 0.99. So, how would we do the
- 40:13math? Or is there a hypergeometric
- 40:15calculator we want to use? We can
- 40:17literally go back to Moxfield.
- 40:18>> Oh, wow. What a great tool.
- 40:20>> We Yeah, what a great tool. [laughter]
- 40:22>> We'll we'll do it all in Moxfield,
- 40:24honestly. Let's Let's scroll up. Hyper.
- 40:26There it is on your left.
- 40:27>> Wow. What a great tool.
- 40:29>> Whoa. Moxfield. You did everything in
- 40:31[clears throat] Moxfield. Crazy, right?
- 40:33So, uh D.
- 40:35>> Yeah. Let's Let's just do starting deck
- 40:37size. Let's change that to 99. And then
- 40:39number of cards, seven, right?
- 40:41>> And then how many how many of the cards
- 40:45are you looking for uh in the deck,
- 40:46right? We're doing that's a 14, right?
- 40:48Cuz there's 14. Uh just Yeah, let's go
- 40:5114. And then uh how many do you want?
- 40:54One. And then how many mulligans did you
- 40:56take? Now, just click calculate. Okay,
- 40:58so this is the probability, right? These
- 41:00are these are these are the numbers,
- 41:02right? Um there there's different thing
- 41:04about math is like there's different
- 41:06ways to like view these numbers, right?
- 41:09Like if we So yeah, let's go through it.
- 41:11So the chance of drawing one or more 66.
- 41:13The chance of drawing exactly one is 41
- 41:1641.13,
- 41:18right? And then the chance of drawing
- 41:20one or less obviously is higher and the
- 41:22chance of drawing zero is 33%. Mhm.
- 41:26>> And so the way the math works is that
- 41:28when you're looking for something
- 41:29specific, right, your chances actually
- 41:32increase. I mean numbers are relative,
- 41:34but we'll say dramatically for the
- 41:35dramatic effect.
- 41:36>> Sure.
- 41:36>> They increase dramatically, right?
- 41:38>> Mhm.
- 41:38>> So yeah. So like when you mulligan,
- 41:40let's say it's like let's say it's like
- 41:42uh 41.13%
- 41:45chance, right?
- 41:46>> That then increases to like 55 to like
- 41:5161 to 70, right? It just it just like
- 41:55dramatically, you know, exactly.
- 41:57>> Yeah.
- 41:57>> Just just like exactly the 79, right?
- 42:01>> So So it go it goes up, right? And this
- 42:03is something that you have to account
- 42:04for when you're when you're mulling in
- 42:07front of this game cuz like everything
- 42:08is really decided in mulligans, right?
- 42:10>> So when I'm playing, I factor in am I
- 42:12see one, see two, seat three, see four,
- 42:15right? And then I think about
- 42:16essentially the probabilities of oh, I
- 42:20need to get fish, right? And then it's
- 42:22like how many cards lead to fish, right?
- 42:24And if we go back to list and and and we
- 42:26count, right? So we'd go with like one.
- 42:29And then we go to our tutors, which is
- 42:31in line tutor. Two, three, four, five,
- 42:36six, right? And and it's not just I
- 42:39guess fish, right? We would add like
- 42:41Esper. Like we'll stop with Esper too,
- 42:43right?
- 42:44>> So we add Esper. That's that's seven.
- 42:46Then let's just keep it simple for now.
- 42:48So we go back to the hypergeometric
- 42:50calculator, right? And I guess if you
- 42:51want to put aristic in there, you say
- 42:53eights, right? And then hope you get the
- 42:55fast mana. So let's go eight calculate,
- 42:58right? And then ex there it is 25%.
- 43:02Right? So you have 25%. And then that's
- 43:05mulligan from there. Right? And then
- 43:07went up to 43%. And then mulligan again,
- 43:10right? And it just your probability is
- 43:12higher and higher and higher. And that's
- 43:13why it's like a a mult to four for
- 43:16exactly what you need is always going to
- 43:18be better than some random seven.
- 43:19>> Yeah.
- 43:20>> You know, and so a lot of people people
- 43:21are like, "Oh, this is like keepable. Is
- 43:23it?" [laughter]
- 43:25You know, like
- 43:26>> is it? Right. And and that's just one of
- 43:28the strategies like if we're doing like,
- 43:30you know, the the one two three or the
- 43:32LED bomb, right? Those are the
- 43:34probabilities for those just get higher
- 43:36and higher and higher. So it's like you
- 43:37>> you may as well mull and get what you
- 43:39want, right? Like in the semi-finals,
- 43:42Dexter mowled the three, you know, and
- 43:45it was it was tough. It's always it's
- 43:47always tough mentally molding the three,
- 43:49>> but he still was able to get colon the
- 43:51week necro.
- 43:52>> Mhm.
- 43:53>> Right. The math.
- 43:55>> Yeah.
- 43:55>> Yeah. [laughter]
- 43:57>> Who cares? Like like you went down to
- 43:59three, but you're about to replenish
- 44:00your whole hand and then some. You know,
- 44:02it's like
- 44:03>> and also like I'm keeping a seven that
- 44:05says calling the weak necro, right? So
- 44:07those are the only m the land calling
- 44:09the weak necro. only real cards that
- 44:10matter in the hand. The other cards are
- 44:12nice additions to have but are not what
- 44:15the optimization is there for. Right.
- 44:17>> Exactly. Exactly. So
- 44:18>> So my my question here is let's go back
- 44:20to our 14, right? Our discard outlets.
- 44:24>> Sure.
- 44:24>> So at zero mulligans we have these
- 44:26percentage chances. What I want to know
- 44:29is why do these percentages matter,
- 44:31right? Why what what happens when I say
- 44:34okay so chance of drawing one or more
- 44:35without mulligan at all is 46%. That's
- 44:38pretty good. If I go to 15, we go up to
- 44:4048%. So, it's a 2% change in that one or
- 44:43more. How are you evaluating like these
- 44:45percentages after we use the
- 44:47hypergeometric calculator? What are the
- 44:49percentages that you're looking to
- 44:50optimize for? Amazing. Excellent
- 44:53question. So, this this depends on like
- 44:55what consistency you're looking for.
- 44:57This depends on how much you believe in
- 44:59the probabilities. This depends on I
- 45:00guess like how aggressive you are on
- 45:02Mullans and everyone should be. Uh this
- 45:04depends on the other numbers that they
- 45:06are affecting. Right. So if there is a
- 45:10if there's a true number for discard
- 45:12outlets, essentially the logic for this
- 45:15is you do want your discard outlets to
- 45:16be as low as to as close to 14 as
- 45:20possible. I think I'm at like 16 right
- 45:23now just to keep that number just ever
- 45:24so slightly consistent. Also some card
- 45:27not every card's the same like I
- 45:28mentioned before like future dimp is
- 45:30like infinite discard right sure but
- 45:32then there's cards like Öza saga which
- 45:34is a disc basically a fake discard
- 45:37outlet and a land right so and and and
- 45:40those cards are actually really nice to
- 45:41have in the deck because it essentially
- 45:43makes the math more forgiving right so
- 45:45it's like 14 15 is like may not actually
- 45:48be that accurate because your deck is
- 45:50actually a little bit more forgiving
- 45:51than than what we're actually accounting
- 45:52or calculating for
- 45:54>> and so then you have to think about it's
- 45:55like you know that let's say we have
- 45:57like close to 14 as possible to keep it
- 45:59to the average of one then it's like
- 46:02what else do we need in the hand we
- 46:03still need the two lands right
- 46:05>> and then we need you know the bomb and
- 46:07then the question is like what are the
- 46:09bombs at right so if you want to see a
- 46:11minimum of one then that number right as
- 46:13we know as we've seen is 14 right and
- 46:15then it's like how many bombs you know
- 46:18do we have right we can count them
- 46:20>> I still count esperinal polywog
- 46:23>> two
- 46:23>> two and then we have to Go to modok
- 46:26>> consecrated sinks sire titan
- 46:30>> sex
- 46:31>> octopus guy
- 46:34[laughter]
- 46:34>> octopus man
- 46:36>> primal primal primal tide runcar baleful
- 46:40gormagala villis balaboth jenotaxis
- 46:45what's that number so we didn't count do
- 46:47we count or elishorn we do not okay so
- 46:51let's just go again so one two 3
- 46:55>> 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14. Wow.
- 47:03>> Oh 14.
- 47:05>> 14.
- 47:06>> That's crazy. [laughter]
- 47:08>> Yeah.
- 47:09>> That being said, are are we counting
- 47:10tutors as well? Like these increase are
- 47:13these part of the bomb counts or No.
- 47:15>> No,
- 47:15>> they're not. No. Okay. So, because those
- 47:17tutors are leading into usually LED,
- 47:20right? Understood. We we do not count
- 47:23those as in addition to. So the bombs
- 47:25are just pure pure bombs.
- 47:28>> And so the other cards like Ellishnorn,
- 47:30Rule of Laws,
- 47:32>> I I think if you add those in, it
- 47:33becomes like 20 or something. And
- 47:36essentially it's it starts leaning
- 47:38closer. You start getting uh you go from
- 47:40one, you start going more towards two,
- 47:42right? But in terms of true bombs, it is
- 47:4414. You want one. You want one of these,
- 47:46right? Runescar also gets commandeer.
- 47:48Totally forgot to mention that. But
- 47:50anyways, facts. Yeah. And yeah, so that
- 47:54is essentially like the math for that.
- 47:55And if you're double bombing, it's like
- 47:57maybe you have two cool bombs or maybe
- 47:59you have like the rule of law like to
- 48:02like to go with it and and stop
- 48:04someone's turn. So, but yeah, like this
- 48:08goes into part of the things that
- 48:09essentially I helped solve for this
- 48:11deck. And this is stuff that you could
- 48:13it goes for everything like you can it
- 48:15goes it goes for everything, right? So
- 48:17yeah, takeaway being right that when we
- 48:20are looking at a deck, we want to
- 48:21understand the goal of the deck first.
- 48:23You know, the goal of this deck is I
- 48:25need a I need a three mana by turn three
- 48:28or you know there some combination of
- 48:30that with the LED. I need a discard
- 48:32outlet and I need a bomb. Those are the
- 48:34goals of this deck.
- 48:35>> Yeah.
- 48:36>> And if I can understand my goals, then I
- 48:38can optimize for my goals and say,
- 48:40"Okay, I need I need these three
- 48:42things." And and are those the three
- 48:43things that you're optimizing for, which
- 48:45is mana, curve, bombs, and discard
- 48:48outlets? Are those like the big three?
- 48:49>> Those are those are the big three. I I
- 48:50mean, I tell people it's still wristic
- 48:52and fish deck, and those are technically
- 48:54like I mean, they're their own category,
- 48:56but you can include them as bombs if you
- 48:57want to.
- 48:58>> Sure.
- 48:58>> But it's in a lot of my testing, I was
- 49:00running a lot of games just doing pure
- 49:02sitting on fish aristic cuz hasheton is
- 49:05not any of the actual windcons.
- 49:06Something we haven't talked about yet.
- 49:07So like you just draw a bunch of cards
- 49:09and then just praise grasp someone to
- 49:11death like easy no problem cheesy cuz
- 49:13you LED is probably in the graveyard
- 49:15anyway you know so who just get their
- 49:17breach one game so so what's maybe
- 49:19what's the takeaway for people when
- 49:21they're brewing decks and and looking at
- 49:22hypergeometric calculation
- 49:24>> have a game plan have a game plan like
- 49:25this this deck is nothing but a game
- 49:27plan you know all the decks I brew have
- 49:30nothing but a game plan in the Discords
- 49:31I write a lot of philosophies
- 49:33>> for uh for these decks
- 49:35>> and then the people in you know, shout
- 49:38out to everyone in the discords
- 49:41>> like, you know, they know as well and
- 49:42it's a good community and everybody
- 49:44helps test new cards, try different
- 49:46things and help people understand, you
- 49:49know, the logic, the philosophy, you
- 49:50know, how to play. So, yeah. Yeah. And
- 49:53it's I would say one thing about this
- 49:54that's interesting maybe that we can
- 49:56cover is sometimes in Discords in deck
- 49:58specific Discords, there's a lot of
- 50:00discussion about like freedom of
- 50:02thought, right? Like how you play this
- 50:04deck and how I play this deck may be
- 50:05different. I wouldn't say, and I don't
- 50:07know because I I don't spend a lot of
- 50:08time in tech specific Discords, that
- 50:10your Discord is not really meant to say,
- 50:12well, there's a billion ways to play
- 50:14this deck, and we're just a group of
- 50:15people who are talking about all the
- 50:16different ways. You're like, this is
- 50:17what I believe is the optimal way to
- 50:18play. You can play however you'd like,
- 50:20but the point of this Discord is to play
- 50:22in this particular fashion.
- 50:24>> Yes. Yes. Because otherwise, like I am
- 50:28I'm like I'm not able to help you, you
- 50:30know, because like
- 50:31>> you're doing your own thing.
- 50:33>> Yeah. Like I I play like 15 I play like
- 50:3514 to 15 bombs like true bombs and like
- 50:39I may have tried some of the ways that
- 50:42other people have played. I played
- 50:43hashtton like before it came out and I
- 50:46was still like on n visit so I wasn't
- 50:48able to like completely like switch
- 50:50>> due to my dedication of you know one of
- 50:52my other crafts and it was the first
- 50:54time I went like 050 like in a
- 50:56tournament
- 50:57>> um or 0x0 at a tournament which is
- 50:59hilarious. Never give up. It's just like
- 51:02I am just when when people So this is
- 51:04probably a whole another video, but
- 51:06there's there's brewers, there's tuners,
- 51:08and there's champions.
- 51:10>> And you know, a a champion is someone
- 51:12who basically is publicly well known to
- 51:15perform on the deck. And then in
- 51:17addition, because they're a champion,
- 51:18they obviously know the deck very well
- 51:20to win with it. And then they become
- 51:22like the source of truth and usually end
- 51:24up tuning. Unless you're like Lamora who
- 51:26just
- 51:26>> plays my exact Rowan iteration with
- 51:29whatever it is and just wins and goes
- 51:32first in Swiss at Reach the Bay and wins
- 51:34the breach card, you know, shout out
- 51:37like Yeah. Like that's that's those are
- 51:40like the categories of like where people
- 51:42are. Not all brewers are also champions
- 51:44like of of the decks that they brew.
- 51:46like someone Oh, I guess I I guess you
- 51:49know you just had a video with uh Ben uh
- 51:53Golden Pryo who made the Tala deck and
- 51:56then Atlas just like won like a
- 51:59tournament with it like already.
- 52:00>> Yeah.
- 52:00>> You know, same literally yesterday I won
- 52:03a gold on Rag Timna which is a deck he
- 52:06brewed. We brewed a little bit together
- 52:07and then he iterated a ton on it. I had
- 52:09never played this deck before and I was
- 52:11like, "Okay, I'm going to go and play a
- 52:12tournament on this, you know." And yeah,
- 52:14I I love watching brewing happen because
- 52:16I think it's super fascinating and I
- 52:18love to talk about ideas. I am not a
- 52:20brewer. I am in the tuner champion
- 52:23category and I'm very happy being there.
- 52:25You know, it's not to say like I can't
- 52:28brew and I and I have brewed decks
- 52:29before. I don't think that the decks I
- 52:31brew are very good cuz I don't practice
- 52:34that skill. You know, that's not my
- 52:36gift. That's not what I pride myself on
- 52:38being the best in the world at. And so I
- 52:40I do think that the whole concept of
- 52:42trying to be all three is really
- 52:43difficult. I'd say you're probably a
- 52:45great example of someone who is doing
- 52:47all three. Uh Holden again being you
- 52:49know the Ralph father another great
- 52:51example. But it's it is okay to live in
- 52:54different categories and to to exist you
- 52:56know and not have to claim that you know
- 52:58I'm all three and I'm I'm really good at
- 53:00everything and I can do all this
- 53:01different you know all these different
- 53:02concepts and ideas like you can just
- 53:04focus on an area or or kind of the you
- 53:07know brewer. I think it's maybe maybe to
- 53:09me it's a little bit more like two
- 53:10categories where it's brewer and
- 53:12champion. Tuner kind of exists in the
- 53:15median space between the both or between
- 53:17both of them
- 53:18>> for for a lot of people like you're
- 53:19saying.
- 53:20>> Yeah. Yeah. You'd rather be a champion
- 53:21than than a than a tuner cuz like then
- 53:23you get both.
- 53:24>> Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. And you can
- 53:26naturally you'll you'll naturally like
- 53:28be like you know and and for example
- 53:30like with this Rock Timidc I'm going to
- 53:31chat with Ben. and we're going to do a
- 53:32video on it, of course, and I'm going to
- 53:34go over all the things that felt subpar,
- 53:37things that I felt like were missing
- 53:38from the deck. And that's a good
- 53:39opportunity to tune the deck based on a
- 53:42winning perspective. Yes. Yes. And a
- 53:44Brewer loves their champions, you know,
- 53:46like Yeah. So, I'm sure you guys are
- 53:48going to have a real fun time and and
- 53:50awesome celebration, you know, with
- 53:53Congrats, by the way, with
- 53:54>> I appreciate it. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah,
- 53:56the invitational match just goes a
- 53:57little bit harder because you got the
- 53:58Tim and the [laughter]
- 54:03>> Yeah. Whenever any of my champions say
- 54:04anything about the deck, I'm always
- 54:06like, "Oo,
- 54:07>> what happened?" You know, like Yeah.
- 54:09like what you like, what you didn't
- 54:11like. Yeah. I'm like, "Awesome."
- 54:12>> Exactly.
- 54:12>> Yeah. It's the most useful advice you're
- 54:14going to get.
- 54:14>> Exactly. Exactly. The what is it? like
- 54:17Notorious. Actually, speaking of
- 54:18champions, Notorious just won like a or
- 54:20he got like second at like a 47 event or
- 54:23something like with Hash and then I was
- 54:25like, "Did you use Reanimate at all?" He
- 54:26said, "No." I said, "Great. I'm cutting
- 54:28it." [laughter]
- 54:31That's so funny.
- 54:33>> Yeah. Yeah. So, hell yeah. Okay.
- 54:40I just want to say, you know, let's make
- 54:43CEDH magic damage great again, right?
- 54:47[laughter]
- 54:48Sure. Yeah.
- 54:50>> Magic life matters.
- 54:52>> Yes.
- 54:52>> Right. Please swing. [laughter]
- 54:55>> Do do not just sit with your four fours
- 54:59and not swing.
- 55:00>> Yes.
- 55:01>> You you have a stack plate. You have
- 55:04lifelink thothoth. Like if people swing
- 55:06back at you, who cares, right? Yes,
- 55:09>> you need to swing at these guys
- 55:11>> who are sitting on resources who are
- 55:14>> scared of being rule of law, right? You
- 55:16need to choke their life out and make
- 55:20them go for it. You got to like cuz once
- 55:23they drop like the 16 if they're, you
- 55:25know, they're in that 40, they'll just
- 55:26they'll draw you out.
- 55:28>> Yeah. The panic sets in
- 55:30>> cuz now it's like I'm swinging at this.
- 55:32I'm swinging at you for lethal next turn
- 55:33and people like don't do it. Don't cast
- 55:36your spells. And you're like, "Yes, cast
- 55:38the spells or you die. [laughter]
- 55:41>> Swing at them."
- 55:42>> Yeah.
- 55:43>> You know, like that's not draw, guys.
- 55:46This isn't draw city, man. You know, so
- 55:48I just
- 55:49>> put some pressure on the table.
- 55:50>> Put some pressure on the You got four
- 55:52fours, man. Swing.
- 55:54>> Yeah. One one cool thing, Brian Koval,
- 55:56when he was getting into CDH, he was
- 55:58like, I really love Crom because it just
- 56:00kills people and it's going to swing.
- 56:03And he I think he talked about this.
- 56:04He's like, I'm just going to swing Crom
- 56:05at the same player over and over again
- 56:07because it's going to incite action.
- 56:09They are going to realize they are dead
- 56:11and they need to do something. And this
- 56:13goes into much more magic philosophy.
- 56:15And I'm sure we'll talk about this on
- 56:17future episodes, but like it's great to
- 56:19push second, but if everyone's sitting
- 56:20behind wristic study, there's no
- 56:22incentive to push because you're just
- 56:24going to be advantaged by other people
- 56:25pushing, drawing you cards, and then
- 56:27pushing on top or pushing second. But if
- 56:29you can like catalyze people to push by
- 56:32killing them, then you have awesome
- 56:34windows. Like you create windows with
- 56:35combat damage.
- 56:36>> Whoa. Crazy.
- 56:38>> There there's a lot to learn from our
- 56:40our pro 1v1 probe guys. Like that
- 56:43>> they just they just say like magical
- 56:45stuff and it's just like we should
- 56:47listen.
- 56:47>> We should listen.
- 56:48>> We should listen.
- 56:49>> Yeah.
- 56:53>> Okay. So at this point, do you want to
- 56:55transition into A winning the game and B
- 56:58mulligans?
- 56:59>> Yeah, we should talk about how we win
- 57:00the game. That's kind of important.
- 57:02Yeah. Yeah.
- 57:03>> Me and Michelle's probably most likely
- 57:05going in. If it doesn't, whatever. But
- 57:06the main ones is Thoral. Thor's crack.
- 57:08Thoral is the best way to win the game.
- 57:10>> Yeah.
- 57:10>> Thor, Prader's Grasp. I talked a little
- 57:13bit about Prader's Grasp.
- 57:14>> Mhm.
- 57:15>> Combat damage. You I mean, you can and
- 57:18you will kill people with combat damage.
- 57:19Like, don't get me wrong. like and and
- 57:21the and when you play this deck and you
- 57:22win like you will get up early even
- 57:23though you killed people with combo
- 57:24damage like you will get up early which
- 57:26is like another reason why I play this
- 57:27deck like it it it wins quick chokes
- 57:30people's time you had all the time it's
- 57:32great and I think I think that is I
- 57:34think that is it [laughter] like like
- 57:35that is that that is
- 57:37>> that that is it
- 57:38>> easy peasy
- 57:39>> there's like little mini combos where
- 57:41you can you mentioned this like you can
- 57:43jinaxis into Vavoth and then that chokes
- 57:46out the game you know you can have
- 57:48everyone build up resources and then
- 57:50stack always stack played them, you
- 57:51know, and the game's basically, you
- 57:53know, over from there. But it really is
- 57:55just Thoral. This is a very efficient
- 57:58Thoral deck, you know, like like you
- 58:01could tainted packed, you know, have
- 58:03like a LED out, exile your whole deck,
- 58:05and then if Thor's in your hand, you
- 58:06could crack LED and like win the game,
- 58:08you know, and that might confuse some
- 58:10people because like you could be like,
- 58:12"Oh, I have this demonic consultation. I
- 58:15don't really want to use it, but we're
- 58:16dying."
- 58:17>> Mhm. You know, I'll name I'll name Swan
- 58:19Song, you know. Cool. [laughter]
- 58:24>> There's no Swan song.
- 58:26Where's the Swan song? [laughter]
- 58:29>> What?
- 58:30>> I guess I'll just crack LED.
- 58:32>> Crack LED.
- 58:34>> Yeah. Yeah.
- 58:35>> And then for nothing, right? So,
- 58:38>> yeah.
- 58:38>> Yeah. It's it's it's simple. You don't
- 58:41need anything fancy than that. In my
- 58:44experience,
- 58:44>> I also say we are missing one of the
- 58:47wins we talked about when we were when
- 58:49when I was first asking about this deck,
- 58:50which is the luris lines with with
- 58:53Razakth.
- 58:53>> The the reason I took out the loris
- 58:55line, and I'm sure some people want to
- 58:56know, I the Loris line is sick. It's
- 58:58dope.
- 58:58>> It is sick.
- 58:59>> But four, it only works with four
- 59:02creatures, four starts. It doesn't work
- 59:05with Hless because Hless kills itself.
- 59:07Why are you killing yourself hless?
- 59:08>> Why you killing yourself?
- 59:09>> Grand impless.
- 59:12Basically, the the combo only works if
- 59:15you have two creatures, which is
- 59:17Asheton, the discard outlet, and then
- 59:19you can win from there. I won't go into
- 59:22all of it, but that is the reason why it
- 59:24was cut.
- 59:26>> Okay.
- 59:26>> So, it's it's it's basically it's like
- 59:28you're going to Jenaxis bomb people way
- 59:30more than you're going to have basically
- 59:32the Raza start, which is what is like,
- 59:34>> you know, the math is math. So,
- 59:36>> yeah, that makes a lot more sense. Yeah.
- 59:42Okay, let's jump into mulligans. Do you
- 59:44want to and go up to 100 or do we want
- 59:45to just mle at 97?
- 59:47>> Yeah, let's let's add in uh let's go to
- 59:49the sideboard real quick. So, Mox Opal
- 59:51talked about that. Me and Michelle
- 59:52talked about that. Chancellor of the
- 59:53Void. I know a lot of people are like,
- 59:55"Oh, Chancellor, I hate this card. This
- 59:57card will never be a bomb, but it's
- 59:59probably going in the deck. Here's why.
- 1:00:01I hate fourth seat, and you should too,
- 1:00:05right?" And so, it basically just goes,
- 1:00:08"Oh, I'm in fourth seat. You know, I
- 1:00:10feel miserable. It is miserable. So,
- 1:00:11let's make it more miserable and let's
- 1:00:14reveal Chancellor in fourth seat.
- 1:00:16>> And then let's bomb it in. [laughter]
- 1:00:18>> No, I don't think we should ever bomb
- 1:00:20this.
- 1:00:21>> We're going to [laughter]
- 1:00:24We're going to pitch it to Solitude.
- 1:00:26We're going to pitch it to Chromox
- 1:00:28>> because there's better bombs, right? It
- 1:00:29still doesn't go in the in the 14 true
- 1:00:31bombs. It's It's just If we can double
- 1:00:34bomb and it's a pair, sure. You know,
- 1:00:36why not? So, let me add these in from so
- 1:00:40we can have a full deck and then we'll
- 1:00:41go from there. And and these cards are
- 1:00:43going to suck. And when we see these
- 1:00:44cards, they're going to suck. Like
- 1:00:45they're going to suck in our mingic
- 1:00:47betrayal. It is not fun.
- 1:00:48>> Yeah. Like, and that's another thing
- 1:00:50about me show. It's blue. So,
- 1:00:52>> it is blue. It is blue.
- 1:00:53>> It was frantic search, but I'm just like
- 1:00:55I don't want to tap out three mana for
- 1:00:56that. So,
- 1:00:57>> Mhm.
- 1:00:57>> move to main deck. Move the main deck.
- 1:00:59Move the main deck. Okay. So, go ahead
- 1:01:01and refresh. Is it 100? Okay, there we
- 1:01:03go.
- 1:01:03>> And let's use a handy dandy tool. Love
- 1:01:06love Moxfield, but I am drawan.
- 1:01:09>> Yeah. It's time to go to the to the
- 1:01:11better
- 1:01:11>> the superior mulligan software.
- 1:01:13>> Exactly.
- 1:01:13>> Yeah. Okay. So, let's do a few things.
- 1:01:16First, I would like to mulligan with you
- 1:01:18in the void. By that, I mean, I don't
- 1:01:20want to know our seat order. I don't
- 1:01:21want to know the other decks in the pod.
- 1:01:23I just want to know like what is the
- 1:01:26what are the hands that I'm looking for
- 1:01:28and are these hands capable? Then we can
- 1:01:30mulligan with context and say, okay,
- 1:01:32what's our pod? What's our C position?
- 1:01:34What other decks are we playing? How
- 1:01:35does that influence mulligan decisions?
- 1:01:37>> Beautiful.
- 1:01:38>> Cool. Okay, I'll I'll give you my
- 1:01:40thoughts on sevens and or mulligans and
- 1:01:43then you can give me kind of the the the
- 1:01:45thoughts that you have as well.
- 1:01:46>> I'll go.
- 1:01:47>> Okay, so this looks like a keep to me.
- 1:01:48This is a turn two rristic study. We
- 1:01:50have I seal for soul ring. We have
- 1:01:52submerge online because we can fetch an
- 1:01:55island and if there's a force in play,
- 1:01:57great. It does not lead into the one,
- 1:01:58two, three plan quite as well. We have
- 1:02:00zero bombs in our hand. We have a tutor
- 1:02:02for LED on turn two, but again, no
- 1:02:04bombs. That could change based on our
- 1:02:06top decks. But like you said, this is a
- 1:02:08rristic study deck at the end of the
- 1:02:10day. We have two free spells. So, we
- 1:02:12draw a black card. Seems like a keep to
- 1:02:14me.
- 1:02:14>> I had nothing to add.
- 1:02:16>> Okay. Phenomenal. [laughter]
- 1:02:19Let's go again.
- 1:02:22Okay. Oh, heyo. [laughter] Heyo. Heyo
- 1:02:26heyo heyo. This hand, although we have
- 1:02:29Chancellor of the Annex and we can do
- 1:02:30the really cute thing of reveal it and
- 1:02:32then pitch it to Solitude, is awkward in
- 1:02:34the sense that we have no bombs in our
- 1:02:36hand. We have no path to turn two
- 1:02:38wristic study. We have this LED on turn
- 1:02:40three, but the deck is not meant to
- 1:02:42gamble. That's the whole point of the
- 1:02:44hypergeometric calculations we did
- 1:02:45earlier. I would mulligan this hand
- 1:02:48unless we want to use these as bombs,
- 1:02:50which again we already talked about. We
- 1:02:51do not want to do. So, I agree. I will
- 1:02:55say if I'm seat one, I probably would
- 1:02:58keep this. I mean, we just talked about
- 1:03:00this. Yeah,
- 1:03:00>> because this isn't This is like a turn
- 1:03:04two wrist stick because you're if if
- 1:03:06you're seat one, right?
- 1:03:08>> And then you time lock everyone.
- 1:03:10>> No, no, no. That makes it like a turn
- 1:03:11one wristic. [laughter]
- 1:03:13>> Oh, you mean just because I'm on my turn
- 1:03:15two while everyone is going into their
- 1:03:17turn three.
- 1:03:17>> My my turn three is still your turn two
- 1:03:20essentially.
- 1:03:20>> Understood. Yeah.
- 1:03:21>> If this the power of season one.
- 1:03:23>> Yeah. So, and that and then that's like
- 1:03:25not bad. And then we can do the thing
- 1:03:27like I like we could solitude the
- 1:03:30chancellor and I don't know like we
- 1:03:32might even there's an Öza as well so we
- 1:03:34might even be able to still get led and
- 1:03:36do a hash bomb and we're excited. Like
- 1:03:38who knows like it's
- 1:03:40>> it's a fun hand. You don't have to keep
- 1:03:41it. It's only for seven. So
- 1:03:43>> yeah. Yeah. And it could play out really
- 1:03:45interestingly right where it's like all
- 1:03:46right everyone's if I'm seat one again
- 1:03:48or seat four probably less good in seat
- 1:03:50four because you just don't have the
- 1:03:51cards you really like. that chancellor
- 1:03:53is just a house. Like this is going to
- 1:03:55basically timewalk everyone for a turn
- 1:03:57and then whoever's ahead I just
- 1:03:59solitude. I say you are back to the
- 1:04:01stone ages with everyone else.
- 1:04:03>> See you little flips.
- 1:04:04>> Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. And then I'm just
- 1:04:07having my wristic study to draw cards.
- 1:04:08And and the cool thing about this is
- 1:04:10because everyone is time walked this
- 1:04:12wristic study is going to draw quite a
- 1:04:13few more cards, right? Because it's
- 1:04:16essentially like we're saying a a turn
- 1:04:18earlier. You know, you can think of this
- 1:04:19as a turn two wristic study, especially
- 1:04:21in early C position.
- 1:04:22>> Exactly.
- 1:04:23>> That makes a lot of sense. Okay. Well,
- 1:04:25let's let's say that we'll just mulligan
- 1:04:27this since we are in the blind. So,
- 1:04:28we'll go second seven. Okay. Second
- 1:04:30seven. Yeah. [laughter] This is a turn
- 1:04:32three rule of law. Not good enough. Six.
- 1:04:43This hand
- 1:04:45has bomb potential on turn three with
- 1:04:48Ellisnorn and Rzzicth, but we our
- 1:04:52discard outlet is not a creature, so
- 1:04:53that hurts our Razicth. Uh, we have no
- 1:04:56card draw in this hand. Uh, we also are
- 1:04:58not even guaranteed a turn three bomb
- 1:05:00because we don't have our third piece of
- 1:05:01mana in a land on a six. I don't feel
- 1:05:05like I'm loving this hand. I would mold
- 1:05:07a five. Let's do it.
- 1:05:10There we go. Easy peasy. This is kind of
- 1:05:13an interesting hand to talk about,
- 1:05:14right? We have all the things we were
- 1:05:16talking about earlier in the episode,
- 1:05:17right? We have three mana. So, we have
- 1:05:20our one, two, three curve. We have our
- 1:05:22discard outlet, and we have two bombs
- 1:05:24and a piece of removal. Since we're on
- 1:05:26five, we have to give away two of these
- 1:05:28cards. My inclination is to let go of
- 1:05:30one of the bombs and a land or one of
- 1:05:32the bombs and the deathly relic. I I
- 1:05:34think what we were talking about earlier
- 1:05:36again is we're looking for two lands in
- 1:05:37that opener. our likelihood of drawing
- 1:05:39that third land in in three turns is
- 1:05:41pretty high. So, if I were to if I were
- 1:05:43to go off disc off of what I think we
- 1:05:45get rid of, I believe it's the Baleful
- 1:05:48Force and probably like the Caves of Co.
- 1:05:53And then we we have this deadly rollic
- 1:05:55up on turn two. We also get a lot of
- 1:05:57card selection with Grand. That's going
- 1:05:59to let us get into our lands. So, this
- 1:06:00would be my five. What do you think? If
- 1:06:03it is a creature pod, we have to keep
- 1:06:06baleful force because they will not feed
- 1:06:09that tide.
- 1:06:10>> Good good consideration. Yeah.
- 1:06:11>> Yeah. And then if we're against greedy
- 1:06:15Grix's decks, then we keep Nezahal
- 1:06:18because Nezahal can sacrifice itself as
- 1:06:21well for a different bomb because it can
- 1:06:23discard and then you lose it forever.
- 1:06:25But who cares? Um you're getting another
- 1:06:27bomb out. But
- 1:06:28>> there is also another world that we just
- 1:06:31fully take advantage of and we keep both
- 1:06:34bombs to basically be able to pivot and
- 1:06:36we get rid of a lands and hope that
- 1:06:38grand draws us into another land. That's
- 1:06:41>> if bottom two lands or would you bottom
- 1:06:43land that they roll like
- 1:06:45>> once again all hypothetical, right? So
- 1:06:47>> yeah,
- 1:06:48>> all hypothetical like and that's that's
- 1:06:49the thing about this deck, right? It's
- 1:06:50like you'll be able to, you know,
- 1:06:52configure basically the best way for you
- 1:06:54to be as greedy as possible to, you
- 1:06:56know, win the game. So,
- 1:06:58>> sure.
- 1:06:58>> Yeah, it just depends.
- 1:07:00>> So, now let's let's mulligan with
- 1:07:01context, and this will help inform some
- 1:07:03of these decisions that we're unsure
- 1:07:05about or that we're theorizing on. So,
- 1:07:07we're restarting pod order. We have the
- 1:07:09getro monster in seat one, rag thrust in
- 1:07:11seat 2, TNT in seat 3, and we are in the
- 1:07:13dreaded seat 4. This is our first seven.
- 1:07:16I don't like this hand. We have no
- 1:07:18discard outlet. We have a pseudo bomb
- 1:07:20that doesn't really deal with these
- 1:07:22decks, right? Creature deck, creature
- 1:07:24deck, creature deck. They don't really
- 1:07:25care about as much. And our removal is
- 1:07:29minimal at best. And we have no real
- 1:07:31plan. This is a mole. Let's do it.
- 1:07:33>> Second seven. Okay. Again, this looks
- 1:07:36like a mole to me. We only have one mana
- 1:07:38source. We have no discard outlet. We
- 1:07:39have no bomb.
- 1:07:40>> Let's do it.
- 1:07:41>> Six. Okay. So, we're in fourth seat.
- 1:07:43Four seat fish is pretty bad, especially
- 1:07:45with one land. We have a dead card. Uh,
- 1:07:49we do have a bomb. We have no, you know,
- 1:07:52real mana to to back this fish up on. I
- 1:07:55really hate a fourth seat fish with one
- 1:07:57land. We're on a six. I would say
- 1:07:59mulligan, but I'm I'm curious where your
- 1:08:02thinking is.
- 1:08:03>> Oh, I'm Yeah, I'm going to mole.
- 1:08:04>> Mhm. Yeah, absolutely.
- 1:08:06>> Five. Uh, we have our lands, we have our
- 1:08:09bombs, we have a rule of law, we have no
- 1:08:11mana acceleration, and we have no
- 1:08:13discard outlet. I think I'm letting this
- 1:08:14go on a five.
- 1:08:15>> I haven't seen it, but I believe
- 1:08:18>> Yeah, it's small.
- 1:08:19>> Go to four. Okay, there we go. So, this
- 1:08:21is lands. We have a vamputor. We have
- 1:08:24bombs in the form of Poliwag Prodigy and
- 1:08:26Valgavoth. This is a seat four. So this
- 1:08:29means that we have a turn two bomb. With
- 1:08:31these decks, I would look at Valgoth as
- 1:08:34a potential stack/bomb because we turn
- 1:08:36off the get rugg monster completely.
- 1:08:38Like they don't get to play the game.
- 1:08:40That being said, we kind of lose to
- 1:08:41Ragthras and TNT. Downside of this is
- 1:08:44Polywog being a fish means I'm not
- 1:08:46really drawing that many cards off of
- 1:08:48these feature decks. So, I'm tempted to
- 1:08:50keep this as as like a stop gap and also
- 1:08:53as an engine for myself when people cast
- 1:08:55their spells. Them going into their turn
- 1:08:58three means that they're going to cast
- 1:08:59spells into the Valgoth and I'm going to
- 1:09:00be able to play them. So, I'd probably
- 1:09:02keep two lands, fampt tutor, and a
- 1:09:06Valoth. All right, so we're on we're on
- 1:09:08a four. We've have we have the things
- 1:09:11that we need. We have two bombs in the
- 1:09:14form of Polywog Prodigy and Valavoth
- 1:09:16Terror Eater. We have two lands and we
- 1:09:18have a vamp tutor to get our lines
- 1:09:19diamond because of the awkward pod
- 1:09:21composition and seed order. I don't love
- 1:09:23this for uh the poliwog prodigy being a
- 1:09:25mystic remora effect is not going to
- 1:09:27trigger off of these creature decks very
- 1:09:29much. Valgoth is something I like a
- 1:09:31little more just because it invalidates
- 1:09:33the getro monster completely and it's
- 1:09:35going to gain us cards that these other
- 1:09:37players are going to cast into the
- 1:09:39Valgoth that we can cast on our turn.
- 1:09:41It's going to be a little bit difficult
- 1:09:42to win through this. So turn two Vavoth
- 1:09:45um seems like the plan to me. I'd
- 1:09:47probably keep land land vampoth and let
- 1:09:51go of Poliwog in the other two lanes.
- 1:09:52What do you think?
- 1:09:53>> Yeah, I I don't normally actually choose
- 1:09:56Poliwog over Valkoth because you know
- 1:10:00card draw is always going to be better.
- 1:10:02>> Mhm. But I think I think in this pod we
- 1:10:04need to be annoying and force the get
- 1:10:06rock player to feed us cards to stop the
- 1:10:09other two decks because get rock can't
- 1:10:11play against Vagaboth, remove Vagaboth,
- 1:10:14do anything to Bagawoth.
- 1:10:16>> So they'll have no other choice but to
- 1:10:18start discarding and sacrificing and
- 1:10:20give us anything to help come back and
- 1:10:22stop the other two.
- 1:10:24>> Yeah. Um, yeah,
- 1:10:25>> it's a little bit of an awkward, but I
- 1:10:26mean it's it's definitely a plan. And
- 1:10:28like you said, mulligan aggression is
- 1:10:30important and mulling to four. This is a
- 1:10:32very keepable hand. Turn two vagaboth is
- 1:10:34nuts.
- 1:10:36>> Yeah. It's also how you time it, right?
- 1:10:37Like I mentioned before, like you don't
- 1:10:39just vagaboth immediately. Wait until
- 1:10:42>> someone gets countered or something, you
- 1:10:45know? Exactly.
- 1:10:46>> Yeah, that's really smart. Yeah. Okay,
- 1:10:48let's do another one. All right, this
- 1:10:50pod we are again in C4. We have rogside
- 1:10:52seat 1, anomar seat 2, rog thrust seat
- 1:10:55three, and then we are in the dreaded
- 1:10:57seat 4. We have a turn one esper
- 1:10:58sentinel. This mox opal is feeling kind
- 1:11:00of dead, but you we have hope. I'm not
- 1:11:03loving the hand. I I always love esper
- 1:11:07sentinel. I'm definitely biased towards
- 1:11:08this card in seat one. Esper sentinel
- 1:11:10gets us back into the game from seat 4.
- 1:11:12The issue being
- 1:11:13>> all creature decks, not a lot of
- 1:11:15creature spells.
- 1:11:16>> That's Yeah.
- 1:11:17>> So,
- 1:11:17>> oh, is that Wait, was that rock?
- 1:11:18>> Oh, no. I'm sorry. No, it's Rogai
- 1:11:20Anamar. So, two creature decks, one
- 1:11:21non-creature. So, we we probably have
- 1:11:23some play off of Rogai and seat one, but
- 1:11:26we have no way to answer them, right?
- 1:11:28There's no answers to Rogai.
- 1:11:30>> So, I will say this, we should mole, but
- 1:11:34I do want to show the secret tech here.
- 1:11:36Yeah,
- 1:11:37>> you tarnish Citadel turn one, play
- 1:11:40Esper, keep Mox Opal in hand, and then
- 1:11:44basically the hope, and it's a hope, the
- 1:11:46hope is that you can still pash curve
- 1:11:49bomb out by having two cards in hand and
- 1:11:52go to discard.
- 1:11:52>> Ooh, that is really cool. Yeah. So, on
- 1:11:54turn three, we're still going to be able
- 1:11:56to maybe get this runes card, grab a
- 1:11:58common deer, grab whatever we need to to
- 1:12:00be alive.
- 1:12:01>> A Exactly. But it's probably too slow
- 1:12:03because Rocky see one, so
- 1:12:05>> Yeah. It's like, you know, there's just
- 1:12:07we're just not Yeah, we're not getting
- 1:12:09there right now. Okay, cool. Let's go.
- 1:12:10Second seven. All right, so this is a
- 1:12:14interesting hand. We've got two lands.
- 1:12:16We have our discard outlet. We have our
- 1:12:18bomb and neahal. Nezahal triggering off
- 1:12:21really only Rossai. And it's on turn our
- 1:12:24turn three that we're going to be able
- 1:12:25to do this. So Rogai has either won or
- 1:12:27been stopped by this point. We have no
- 1:12:29access to a turn two study. And we have
- 1:12:31very limited interaction in the form of
- 1:12:33a misdirection. I don't really want to
- 1:12:35let this hand go. And it also just we we
- 1:12:37kind of just do nothing against these
- 1:12:39decks, but I don't think it's a super
- 1:12:40powerful hand.
- 1:12:42>> Grand is very powerful. It, you know,
- 1:12:44like the hand you see now is not the
- 1:12:46hand that it will be in the next few
- 1:12:49turns. Grand was like my MVP of like
- 1:12:53invitational
- 1:12:54>> tournaments.
- 1:12:55>> Mhm.
- 1:12:56>> Yeah. Someone had like I had like Mox
- 1:12:58amber grand and then and then I played
- 1:13:01like fish and then Zeke is like I'll
- 1:13:03misstep it and I was like okay you know
- 1:13:05misstep the fish and miss yeah misstep
- 1:13:08the fish but I still had grand and grand
- 1:13:10was
- 1:13:12won me the game but u once again I mean
- 1:13:15it's tough like the risk study is there
- 1:13:16like
- 1:13:17>> you could hope like I don't think it's
- 1:13:19wrong to be like oh like I can curve out
- 1:13:22to the rristic study and then
- 1:13:24>> pray from there like it's it's not
- 1:13:26wrong. You do have the stubborn as well
- 1:13:28as counter magic.
- 1:13:29>> But then it's like and who's stopping?
- 1:13:31Who is who is I am a believer that in
- 1:13:34forc you do need to help stop.
- 1:13:36>> Yeah.
- 1:13:37>> And solicit to your opponents to help
- 1:13:38you help stop.
- 1:13:39>> But Anamar is not helping.
- 1:13:40>> No.
- 1:13:41>> And Rock Thrash is just going to make
- 1:13:43mana.
- 1:13:44>> Yeah.
- 1:13:44>> And if they're on Sam Black's version,
- 1:13:46then they're not actually playing
- 1:13:50interaction at all.
- 1:13:51>> Mhm.
- 1:13:52>> So it's up to us, you know. So
- 1:13:55>> yeah,
- 1:13:56>> it's a second seven. Are we second
- 1:13:58seven?
- 1:13:58>> We're on second seven.
- 1:13:59>> We could go lower.
- 1:14:00>> Yeah, I think so, too. O, awkward hand.
- 1:14:03The stacks piece is phenomenal. Like
- 1:14:04this rule of law. If we could play it on
- 1:14:06turn two, potentially could be enough to
- 1:14:08let us live, but we just have no mana at
- 1:14:10all. The LED is great as well, but
- 1:14:12really can't use it. If we had two lands
- 1:14:14in this hand, it'd be a banger. We just
- 1:14:16get to have Rule of Law into our card
- 1:14:19draw, but with no lands, I think we got
- 1:14:21a five.
- 1:14:21>> Our probability is going up.
- 1:14:23>> That is true. our probability is going
- 1:14:24up. Um, okay. Interesting. So, we've got
- 1:14:27a five here. We do have this force to
- 1:14:30potentially be able to stop the Rockside
- 1:14:32player. We have a discard outlet. We
- 1:14:34have some extra mana that is probably
- 1:14:36not needed on a five. We have our DT.
- 1:14:39It's very awkward. This is like a turn
- 1:14:42three.
- 1:14:44It's not even really a turn three study.
- 1:14:45I mean, it is if we draw a land, maybe
- 1:14:47bottom like these two cards and say,
- 1:14:50"Hey, I'm going to plan to survive and,
- 1:14:53you know, blow Rocky out, but it's just
- 1:14:56awkward." Like the hand feels really
- 1:14:57awkward.
- 1:14:58>> See, this is where it's like, is this
- 1:14:59round one? Cuz if it's round one, like
- 1:15:02I'm not afraid to lose. I'm I'll lower.
- 1:15:04>> Okay. So, yeah, you'd say you get a four
- 1:15:05here.
- 1:15:06>> Yeah, why not?
- 1:15:07>> Yeah. Okay, sure. Okay.
- 1:15:10Well, that's four. I mean, we have our
- 1:15:13LED. We could potentially, you know, go
- 1:15:17with this plan. I guess [laughter] it's
- 1:15:20really bad.
- 1:15:21>> No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Uh, we
- 1:15:24got to do the thing we talked about.
- 1:15:25>> You want to You want to keep Chancellor
- 1:15:27out of four? [laughter]
- 1:15:28>> Yes. Yes,
- 1:15:31>> we got to do the thing.
- 1:15:33>> Okay,
- 1:15:33>> we got to do the thing. [laughter]
- 1:15:35>> Okay. Is this This hand is land
- 1:15:38chancellor.
- 1:15:39>> Land.
- 1:15:40>> Land.
- 1:15:41>> Yeah, we don't need it. That is the
- 1:15:42discard outlet. Vamp.
- 1:15:43>> We don't We don't even need
- 1:15:46>> the vamp.
- 1:15:46>> This is a bomb. We need a second land.
- 1:15:49This is our bomb.
- 1:15:49>> Oh, we can get a better bomb,
- 1:15:51>> right? Yeah, that's what I'm thinking.
- 1:15:52It's like turn one or turn zero, I
- 1:15:53chance the table.
- 1:15:54>> This hand, this hand is cracked.
- 1:15:56>> This is cracked.
- 1:15:57>> Okay. Because as as long as we draw the
- 1:15:59land to play hash, right?
- 1:16:01>> Mhm.
- 1:16:02>> Then turn three, get the LED, and then
- 1:16:04whatever we vamped for like Jenga.
- 1:16:07>> Mhm.
- 1:16:07>> We're back. We're back.
- 1:16:08>> We're back.
- 1:16:09>> We're back.
- 1:16:09>> We're back.
- 1:16:10>> Yeah. Like, so yeah. Get rid of this.
- 1:16:13>> That stops.
- 1:16:15>> It does stop.
- 1:16:16>> Yeah, it really stops Rog's eye. Their
- 1:16:18their turn one is land, cast rag, pay
- 1:16:20one mana.
- 1:16:21>> Yeah. So So now we play the land. Er
- 1:16:25saga turn one. Okay. We have a better
- 1:16:28Okay. We could uh we got we got a bomb.
- 1:16:31We could vamptutor for the land at this
- 1:16:33point.
- 1:16:33>> Well, we'd have to play our watery grave
- 1:16:35though.
- 1:16:36>> Uh yeah, turn two.
- 1:16:38>> Okay, sure. Yeah. So turn one we play
- 1:16:40saga. Turn two. We get our spell snare.
- 1:16:43We play our watery grave. We vamp. Grab
- 1:16:46our command tower. Or do you want to
- 1:16:47grab like an underground river for
- 1:16:49villis potential? Like or do you want to
- 1:16:50grab a a swamp or a island for days and
- 1:16:55snuff out? Like what what land would you
- 1:16:57get here?
- 1:16:57>> I guess we already have our watery
- 1:16:59grave.
- 1:16:59>> We do. Watery grave is amazing. Uh we
- 1:17:01can get like tarnished and just just in
- 1:17:03case like converts the villator or
- 1:17:06something
- 1:17:07>> or it doesn't doesn't really matter as
- 1:17:08long as we have the water grave.
- 1:17:10>> Sure. So,
- 1:17:11>> all right. So, we'll vamp for this land
- 1:17:12and then we're going into our turn three
- 1:17:14here. Saga search floam doesn't matter.
- 1:17:18Get a lion's eye diamond. Then we just
- 1:17:20chill. We just play our half.
- 1:17:23>> Exactly.
- 1:17:23>> Just chill.
- 1:17:24>> We just chill. So, if we want to stall
- 1:17:27out the game, Yeah. I mean, ideally, we
- 1:17:29just we don't crack LED and we hope we
- 1:17:31draw a third land. But, I mean, at this
- 1:17:34point in the game, people are like we
- 1:17:36could we could runcar demon for like a
- 1:17:38fish and like It's not the worst plan in
- 1:17:42the world, you know.
- 1:17:43>> Sure.
- 1:17:44>> Yeah. Cuz then you're able spell snare
- 1:17:46as well.
- 1:17:47>> Yeah. Like like people are trying to win
- 1:17:50now, right?
- 1:17:51>> So at this point in the game so
- 1:17:55>> let's probably just crack LED rune scar
- 1:17:57demon. Get a mystic remora. See if we
- 1:18:00survive.
- 1:18:00>> See if we survive.
- 1:18:01>> Yeah.
- 1:18:02>> People wanting less.
- 1:18:03>> Oh yeah. All right. Let's do one more
- 1:18:04and then and then we can wrap. Uh new
- 1:18:06pod. I don't want to be in C4. Get me
- 1:18:08out of C4. Give me out of C3. Give me a
- 1:18:10good seat. All right, we're C1. Let's
- 1:18:12go.
- 1:18:12>> Okay,
- 1:18:12>> Cat, Crystal, C2, Malcolm Vile in C3,
- 1:18:16Italy in C4. Okay, so pod comp. Another
- 1:18:20thing that's I I think quite important
- 1:18:21is evaluating pod composition before
- 1:18:23mulligans. I want to understand what the
- 1:18:25texture of the game is going to look
- 1:18:26like. Crystal being a little bit slower
- 1:18:29version of Vivv essentially. Malcolm
- 1:18:31Vile being a Grix's good stuff deck that
- 1:18:33has Glenhorn combos and Aaliy trying to
- 1:18:35win the game on turn two. So that's kind
- 1:18:36of what I'm thinking going to this pot.
- 1:18:38Yeah. So there is a Ether Sworn, but the
- 1:18:42Malcolm Vile is just going to Glen Horn
- 1:18:44win anyway.
- 1:18:46>> So at Cat one, this hand is playable,
- 1:18:50but it's like I'm sure we could do
- 1:18:52better.
- 1:18:52>> Yeah. I mean, the cool thing though is
- 1:18:55contagion. Oh yeah, the contagion. I
- 1:18:56forgot about the Yeah. So that does
- 1:18:58actually then stop Okay, this hand's
- 1:19:00actually super playable because it does
- 1:19:01stop the only thing I was worried about,
- 1:19:03which is the Malcolm Bile.
- 1:19:04>> Yep. Yeah. So
- 1:19:05>> yeah, the Crystal and Nataly both hosed
- 1:19:07on C2 Aether Sworn, right?
- 1:19:09>> Exactly. So I would probably actually
- 1:19:11just play that.
- 1:19:13>> Oh yeah.
- 1:19:16[laughter]
- 1:19:16>> Oh yeah.
- 1:19:19>> Okay. And now I'm no longer in fear of a
- 1:19:21tali.
- 1:19:22>> Yes. [laughter]
- 1:19:24>> For any reason.
- 1:19:25>> Yeah.
- 1:19:26>> Turn one, dude. Turn two, rule of law.
- 1:19:29>> Yeah.
- 1:19:29>> Right. And then turn three, we didn't
- 1:19:32draw our land.
- 1:19:32>> Play hash.
- 1:19:33>> Play hash. and contagion something.
- 1:19:36>> How many cards do we have in hand as
- 1:19:38well?
- 1:19:39>> We have six.
- 1:19:41>> Six. Okay. It's always good to keep
- 1:19:43track of if you have eight or six. Yeah.
- 1:19:45>> Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. But yeah,
- 1:19:47deal with deal with whatever thing is
- 1:19:49not being affected by rule of law with
- 1:19:51contagion.
- 1:19:52>> Probably pitch would you pitch baleful
- 1:19:54force over the doc?
- 1:19:56>> I would pitch Doc O.
- 1:19:58>> Really? Okay. So, you're really valuing
- 1:20:00bleful force. I dude I think Billful
- 1:20:02Forces it's it's like I don't know
- 1:20:04someone could clone I mean it's not the
- 1:20:06Doc O is not the greatest clone.
- 1:20:08>> Yeah.
- 1:20:08>> I mean I mean we could we can math it
- 1:20:10out, right? So it's like if we
- 1:20:11>> like we're basically we're drawing four
- 1:20:13cards a cycle.
- 1:20:14>> Sure.
- 1:20:14>> Right. But the the is the issue with Doc
- 1:20:17O is that it would refill our hand to
- 1:20:19eight. So we draw only three cards
- 1:20:21>> and then if we don't have like our hand
- 1:20:24would basically just stay like at eight
- 1:20:25is basically what I'm trying to state
- 1:20:27like.
- 1:20:27>> Understood.
- 1:20:28>> Um yeah. So the billful force will draw
- 1:20:30you way more cards.
- 1:20:31>> Okay.
- 1:20:32>> In this situation.
- 1:20:33>> Yeah. And then go to our next turn.
- 1:20:36Let's go. We did it. We have now access
- 1:20:39to hless re researcher to instant speed.
- 1:20:42That can give us the bellful force. It
- 1:20:44can give us a consecrated sphinx if we
- 1:20:46want to uh just dominate the game. It
- 1:20:48opens us up to clones potentially. But
- 1:20:50then again, we have the aether sworn, so
- 1:20:52it's it's not bad. And we have a
- 1:20:53solitude. Yeah. So you have a lot of a
- 1:20:56lot of play with this hand. Sweet.
- 1:20:59Awesome.
- 1:21:03[music]
- 1:21:04Okay, that was Hatchton. Let's go. What
- 1:21:06a what a good deck deck. I think that
- 1:21:08was sweet.
- 1:21:08>> Awesome.
- 1:21:08>> Hell yeah.
- 1:21:09>> Yeah.
- 1:21:09>> If you're interested in playing this
- 1:21:10deck or any of the other decks that
- 1:21:12Anthony has mentioned. Again, we'll have
- 1:21:13all the Discords listed below. I'll have
- 1:21:16Anony's Discord tag as well, so you can
- 1:21:18reach out to him for coaching. We are
- 1:21:20very excited to see some more HashTON
- 1:21:21being played. It's very cool to have a
- 1:21:24viable rule of law deck in the meta and
- 1:21:26and really just doing phenomenal. I I
- 1:21:28think, you know, just seeing the limited
- 1:21:30experience that it's been presented with
- 1:21:32so far, there's there's quite a bit of
- 1:21:34potential for this deck to become a very
- 1:21:36very strong meta deck. So, yeah, I'm
- 1:21:38really pumped.
- 1:21:39>> Yeah. Uh, thanks for having me.
- 1:21:40>> Of course.
- 1:21:40>> And that's the Hashon deck tech for you.
- 1:21:42>> Let's go. Bang, bang, bang. If you guys
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- 1:21:47questions that you have here on the
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- 1:21:50directly or through his Discords. And
- 1:21:52thanks thanks everyone for watching. I
- 1:21:53hope you enjoyed and uh we'll see you
- 1:21:55next week.
- 1:21:59Huge thanks to Anthony for joining me on
- 1:22:01today's episode. Super cool to see a
- 1:22:03reanimator style deck be so powerful in
- 1:22:05the format. And hopefully you guys
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