The Grauer School: Great Conversations with Dr. Edith Eger — Transcript
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- 0:15good evening our school was founded for
- 0:20those of you who are new here we were
- 0:24founded in 1991 to give teams real
- 0:27voices real choices and the mentors that
- 0:30they really trust we eventually started
- 0:32our a great conversation series so we
- 0:35could bring great educational issues and
- 0:37thought leaders to our community in a
- 0:40region we're especially honored with
- 0:42tonight's great conversation because
- 0:45it's where the person who has been such
- 0:46a dear friend of our family and school
- 0:49dr. Edith eager we're honored to name an
- 0:59emeritus faculty member of e at the our
- 1:04school at a ceremony here in this room
- 1:06some years ago because of these many
- 1:09appearances here and because she's been
- 1:12giving teams a voice since well before
- 1:151991 so welcome here we thought be the
- 1:23host of the book signing anyway look
- 1:24what have you done as a child
- 1:28Edie was one of 70 out of 15,000
- 1:31inhabitants of her hometown and hungry
- 1:34to survive the Great War and her book
- 1:37the choice you'll learn how an orphaned
- 1:40Hungarian Jew with a broken back and
- 1:42PTSD winds up with a PhD various
- 1:46prestigious university present positions
- 1:49becomes a student of both Carl Rogers
- 1:52and Viktor Frankl and at least as
- 1:55important you learn how you can overcome
- 1:57even overwhelming on us to have a happy
- 2:00of the purposeful life EDA is overcoming
- 2:03our deal so on and incomprehensible so
- 2:06shocking so surrealistic that we can
- 2:09only commit to a permanent effort to try
- 2:12and understand it her book will be
- 2:15violent or generate
- 2:16to come the choice is a gift to humanity
- 2:20he has an almost unbelievable gift of
- 2:23making everyone she knows even though
- 2:25she can't though she counsels tilith as
- 2:28though they were in her family he and I
- 2:31share one period Bruce she was one of
- 2:34the last people to visit my own mother
- 2:36when she was struggling with independent
- 2:38living in Austin Texas I have never seen
- 2:41any balance day to eat his compassion
- 2:43she also has a gift in writing and
- 2:46storyteller the choice would be a must
- 2:49read because of who he is and what she
- 2:52went through as the and Frank who lived
- 2:53but edited that the public stories of
- 2:56astonishing things she has done as a
- 2:58therapist while engaged with clients
- 3:01reclaiming their lives by the first
- 3:04other paper you will want this book to
- 3:06be in a movie by the time you're
- 3:08finished you'll want it to be to be at
- 3:11least three movies you want it to be at
- 3:18least three movies so we congratulate
- 3:20you on this brilliant long -
- 3:22mind-blowing and powerfully needed book
- 3:26already translated into several
- 3:28languages already a New York Times best
- 3:31seller who writes their first major book
- 3:34at 19 years old that hasn't turned into
- 3:35a best-seller
- 3:37how's that for empowering role model
- 3:40Edie once again welcome back to the
- 3:44growler school and welcome everyone here
- 3:46tonight to the growler school a place of
- 3:48the deepest student engagement and thank
- 3:51to each of you for attending another
- 3:53great conversation here thank you also
- 3:56to the talent of talented at loving for
- 3:59our staff members he puts us ahead
- 4:01together
- 4:02we do not have a long evening plan
- 4:04we'll start the conversation out with a
- 4:06couple questions or conversation between
- 4:09me and Edie and then we'll open up the
- 4:12Florida just pay about three questions
- 4:14or so then after the Q&A we can have
- 4:18some book signing going on and hope the
- 4:20events are less around an hour well you
- 4:23have a beautiful evening doing something
- 4:48differently so the children will look
- 4:51forward to come to school something that
- 4:54they really wanted to see how they can
- 4:58like school and I know your students and
- 5:05I know your teachers and they can't wait
- 5:08to get you in the morning and hope that
- 5:11time tonight is it's not September than
- 5:16America
- 5:17new beginnings and I think you have to
- 5:21be old to be young me because I'm being
- 5:26not me I feel much younger than when I
- 5:31met I give up my need for a boy everyone
- 5:35I give up my need to please everyone
- 5:38and so think about that I think yeah and
- 5:43I'm giving a present and it's wonderful
- 5:46for you to show up tonight I hope that
- 5:50we can have a very meaningful evening I
- 5:52can tell you that being 19 is wonderful
- 5:57just wonderful life is full of surprises
- 6:00when I came to medical penniless and I
- 6:04didn't speak a word of English I didn't
- 6:06realize that this is going to happen and
- 6:09you can so you have questions right I
- 6:11have to just because I do it - I should
- 6:17- now a question I've been thinking a
- 6:18lot about this is kind of personal for
- 6:21me that the the Buddhist monk non-han
- 6:23says yeah I smile even to my suffering
- 6:26and your right to heal we embrace the
- 6:29dark and make an amazing promise that a
- 6:33man who has nothing left in this world
- 6:34they still know this and heating that
- 6:38there's so much suffering and I'm
- 6:39wondering about smiling and the blissful
- 6:42embrace and if this is something that
- 6:43that really always is makes sense in the
- 6:46choice one sentence you write is we can
- 6:50choose what horror teaches us to become
- 6:53bigger in our grief and fear or to hold
- 6:56on to the childlike part of us a
- 6:58liability in the curious part the part
- 7:01that is innocent beautiful beautiful
- 7:03writing but my question is this
- 7:06there ever a time when to give up on
- 7:08optimism on our innocent summit on the
- 7:11childlike part of ourselves that is the
- 7:16difference between being childish and
- 7:18make childlike I think it's good to be
- 7:23worked at childish part because they
- 7:26were clever earlier the child is I want
- 7:29I need I gotta have you're not gonna
- 7:32make me and I'm not gonna you don't
- 7:37release like that totally wrong so that
- 7:40is the difference between childish and
- 7:44childlike parties that part of me that
- 7:51even Jesus felt only chosen to go to
- 7:54heaven I think the child was like part
- 7:58is what kept me alive that I was able to
- 8:02somehow talk to myself in a way that I
- 8:09never ever gave up hope and I think
- 8:13every morning I would say to myself if I
- 8:18survive today that tomorrow everything
- 8:21so I think people March our life are
- 8:25killing us and that curious part of me
- 8:29that kept me alive and at the age of 90
- 8:33I'm still killing us I don't have any
- 8:36answers I have a lot of questions but
- 8:39I'm hoping to be a good runner or mother
- 8:41to our children because they are the
- 8:45and children don't do what we say they
- 8:49do what they seem so I love to talk to
- 8:53parents especially the father who is
- 8:58really showing the children how he is
- 9:02adoring that Monday because love is not
- 9:06what you feel is what you do that you
- 9:08commit yourself to someone else's
- 9:11welfare because all we had was each
- 9:14other in Auschwitz and what we have is
- 9:17each other now so there is hope in all
- 9:21presidents and everything in life is an
- 9:24opportunity the way I see yet not
- 9:28recovering but discovering and Auschwitz
- 9:32was the place that everything was taken
- 9:36away from us and the question comes up
- 9:40how do you find from within that nothing
- 9:43comes from without because the more you
- 9:47wait for someone else to make you happy
- 9:50you're never gonna be happy happiness
- 9:53comes from the outside love and joy
- 9:56comes from the inside so I think looking
- 10:00for answers from the outside that kind
- 10:04of dependency can breed depression
- 10:14question that was beautiful thank you in
- 10:18the choice you're revealing in
- 10:21personal things they won't choices
- 10:24remember us to feel like a victim
- 10:27yeah I was victimized I'm not the victim
- 10:31and stepped what was done to me it's not
- 10:35who I am and I never story but I'm not
- 10:39my story I know what I am I can change
- 10:43the woman to moment by hour day by day I
- 10:47like change because it's anonymous to
- 10:49Detroit so we wanted to test our stories
- 10:53but I just wanna be no monthly what we
- 10:55want to Eva I like to make that whatever
- 11:01are there any stories that you will
- 11:04never tell and are there I mean you
- 11:08reveal so much in in the children and I
- 11:10wonder if all of us have dark corners
- 11:13and shadows that we really shouldn't
- 11:15tell or is it just best to get
- 11:17everything out there at some point with
- 11:19the right person if I would live my life
- 11:27to be trying to figure out reduction
- 11:32then I would miss the present so I think
- 11:40it's a very good question
- 11:41your answer is in the nose yes I'm
- 11:49asking because Emily the choice was so
- 11:52revelatory and so just so much
- 11:55disclosure in it
- 12:00if you look up your words birth
- 12:02certificate that doesn't say that it is
- 12:04a guarantee there's one thing I can tell
- 12:06you in the school because I'm a former
- 12:09school teacher and I still have a
- 12:12blackboard in my office I think that you
- 12:16cannot teach anything anyone unless they
- 12:19have the desire to learn and I think
- 12:23would teachers do that they become a
- 12:26kind of a mystery and it gives never
- 12:29know what she is gonna come up with
- 12:31today you see so so you make a
- 12:34difference as you come in and that's
- 12:37what I did with my students I told them
- 12:41what has to happen in this class to make
- 12:44Annie and the only excuse is best used
- 12:57when I miss myself very interesting and
- 13:00very interesting so I don't read their
- 13:05students as they are I delete them as if
- 13:08they were what I would like them to
- 13:10become and they leverage to the occasion
- 13:13yes and I know your your students don't
- 13:16see them as they are but you treat them
- 13:19the way you want them to be and believe
- 13:21me they rise to the occasion beautiful
- 13:24and that actually leads me to my my
- 13:27third question but before I get to it I
- 13:30just want to ask you something really
- 13:32quick
- 13:32is that we made you an emeritus faculty
- 13:35member years ago even though you weren't
- 13:38on our full-time faculty so I just want
- 13:41to seal that deal by making sure is it
- 13:44okay if I always call you my teacher you
- 13:56see I am NOT a strong woman I am a woman
- 14:00of strength and I think that strength
- 14:05comes from the end Sun and 90 I can also
- 14:10say that it's not only being a strong
- 14:15woman but also being wise and I just
- 14:20want what wise and I can ask you the
- 14:24last year Sarah before you say anything
- 14:28is it kind and it is not don't say it I
- 14:36am dreaming of a kinder world I want us
- 14:41to empower each other little differences
- 14:43I like to see how you can be you and I
- 14:47can be I and together we're gonna be
- 14:50much stronger so I'm very much wanting
- 14:54to unite they then they are send them
- 14:57and
- 14:58and 7/8 so that's what I spend thank you
- 15:04man could I just asked one more thing
- 15:06about distinction in education what I
- 15:09want to know is and this is important to
- 15:12me because we're here is this is a
- 15:15school how many only like teacher's name
- 15:18oh thank you oh that's pretty pretty
- 15:21good showing so what I want to know is
- 15:23on page 166 of the book and elsewhere
- 15:26you describe what drove you out of the
- 15:29teaching profession even after being
- 15:31named Teacher of the Year and you know
- 15:34this is the sentencer like the sense of
- 15:36purpose I felt at the beginning of my
- 15:38profession began to be eroded by the
- 15:42bureaucracy of schools the huge class
- 15:44sizes and caseloads
- 15:46the inability to work effectively with
- 15:48individual students it's essential the
- 15:53teachers facing all these conditions
- 15:55will will stay in this work we need
- 15:58great teachers but we need to stay
- 16:00authentic if everyone takes a moral
- 16:03stance against bigness and in
- 16:05personalization either the schools will
- 16:09change or else there'll be very few
- 16:11teachers that are in the profession so
- 16:13thinking back to your teaching days when
- 16:16you are facing what so many large big
- 16:19school teachers are facing none do you
- 16:21have words for those teachers who are in
- 16:25big systems where they're out of control
- 16:27or they might feel like victims you have
- 16:30words for the students who feel like
- 16:32they have no manners do you have
- 16:34thoughts about creating the healing
- 16:36schools we need evening is a very
- 16:40different thing of computing especially
- 16:45when I could quit cancer
- 16:46patience I tell me to survive you never
- 16:49gonna be the same
- 16:50you gonna be better but there's a
- 16:55difference between a job and your life's
- 16:58work teaching is not a job when you want
- 17:03to make the most amount of money with
- 17:05the least amount of work it is your
- 17:08ministry it is your life's work I think
- 17:14that you deserve all your teachers a
- 17:17standing ovation because every day every
- 17:22day you come in and you create the
- 17:25future here and you get in touch also
- 17:29with you wrong feelings that some
- 17:34children are easier to love but the most
- 17:37obnoxious one is not a real best teacher
- 17:43so what do they like in someone it's
- 17:48time to look at that they do so I
- 17:51respect the stitches I am a teacher
- 17:54myself but I like to call myself a guide
- 17:57I like the guide concept and that I was
- 18:05not really free until I started to work
- 18:08with post-traumatic stress disorder and
- 18:11I had two pair of lyrics coming from
- 18:14Vietnam with the same symptomatology the
- 18:17same diagnosis but to become different
- 18:20responses one of them would curves then
- 18:23count
- 18:24we and why me and conversely the other
- 18:26one said to me hey the heart it's very
- 18:31interesting that God gave me a second
- 18:33chance syllabi and I can see two
- 18:38children sighs much closer and I'm hit
- 18:43with the white coat they've got the
- 18:45legal department of psychiatry and I
- 18:49felt like the biggest imposters because
- 18:55I never told anyone I was in a place I
- 18:58had a 16 year old girl in me that I
- 19:02gotta be a clone and I just wanted to be
- 19:05any dude of any like you and I just
- 19:07wanted to speak English without an
- 19:09accent and those two paraplegic make up
- 19:15or difference in my life because then I
- 19:18decided to go back to Ashley's and
- 19:21that's the one thing that I do now how
- 19:30to hold your precious hand and go back
- 19:34to the clients then I look at the light
- 19:36in the face and reclaim the innocence
- 19:39and the sign mishima give to the
- 19:41perpetrator and then begin to forgive
- 19:44myself that our survival so instead of
- 19:48running away or fighting fear to face it
- 19:55and those two paraplegics with my
- 19:58restrictions I wish I could see them now
- 20:02and let them know that they gave me the
- 20:07permission
- 20:08to be birth to the me that that was
- 20:13meant to be free however my sister make
- 20:19them who was with me lovelies I call her
- 20:25Robinson Macbeth we lost our family and
- 20:28I never been to a funeral I want you to
- 20:33come so we can go back to our streets
- 20:37which is the because cemetery and
- 20:40analogue transom and she says to me
- 20:44you're an idiot
- 20:46we went through the same experience two
- 20:50entirely different responses so that's
- 20:53why you know you cannot make someone
- 20:55want to do anything unless Melanie
- 20:59Melanie and I did the very clever school
- 21:05practices that which students could do
- 21:08we become the future leaders and
- 21:11residents of the United States we're
- 21:16more concerned with having to be
- 21:17children right now I think that's the
- 21:20best path between Future Leaders a
- 21:23little bit of time for playfulness
- 21:25joining that childlike selves that
- 21:27you're talking pitch that night fine I
- 21:29think that some of the schools are
- 21:30taking that away so we're gonna make
- 21:33sure that stays acknowledged that there
- 21:45is no forgiveness without age
- 21:54it's not good to cover garlic with
- 21:57chocolate it doesn't taste good it's not
- 22:02an overnight process when I think
- 22:05forgiveness gives you the spiritual
- 22:07freedom that they repent remember - will
- 22:13you give us all kinds of information we
- 22:17have time for on the floor as well hi my
- 22:39name's Ryan I am a junior at the grammar
- 22:42school and on behalf of the student body
- 22:46we just wanted to present you these
- 22:48flowers as they thank you for coming
- 22:50today to yourself more than thank you
- 22:57it's wonderful to to think about us that
- 23:03what we planned
- 23:05that's what's gonna grow if I two years
- 23:11I'm not gonna get them roses Sam and I
- 23:16think if you can collect the seed after
- 23:18tonight and let's see how you order it
- 23:21so you will know no matter what each one
- 23:25because the best thing you can do to
- 23:28your children is prepare them to enter
- 23:32the world without you that they can
- 23:37become good parents to themselves
- 23:40sometimes we balance discipline too much
- 23:44very too much and we don't have to do
- 23:48that
- 23:50children don't do what we say they do
- 23:53what they see so find that there girl
- 23:57and that little boy in you and that
- 24:00little boy a little girl will probably
- 24:02tell you I wasn't belonging parent that
- 24:05you say I'm showing love for you so when
- 24:11you see when you see all the chocolate
- 24:14and when you see all the booze and then
- 24:18you ask yourself is this really good for
- 24:21me
- 24:22Isabella give me a few minutes of
- 24:25pleasure or you see that you constantly
- 24:29engaging in yourself dialogue as to how
- 24:34you can be able to parent to you and
- 24:37that's what I'm doing because I have a
- 24:39bad back but I can also tell you that
- 24:43when I was liberated and I was in a
- 24:46hospital and they put me in a cast and I
- 24:50had five times of typhoid fever my love
- 24:53was filled with water I got up in the
- 24:57morning I didn't say what I said what
- 25:01for
- 25:02I had no meaning in my life idea was my
- 25:07parents are not coming back and I was
- 25:11very suicidal and I think gun has told
- 25:18me that if I die I probably will be just
- 25:23a coward what if I
- 25:26I'm going to before something and so I
- 25:31am in a really got profession you see
- 25:34and so I hope that maybe tonight you can
- 25:41also make a decision as to what are you
- 25:45willing to carry with you because when
- 25:49you are angry
- 25:50you're probably frustrated that you
- 25:53prefer we have pain and you probably
- 25:55have a lot of fear so maybe tonight I
- 26:00can be your little guide and see what
- 26:05you can do everyday that you can see and
- 26:08a going to give yourself a lot of yeses
- 26:14yes I am and yes I can and yes I hear
- 26:18that an act on that and I don't want the
- 26:22positive the positive and I think that's
- 26:26too big a builder so he could live a
- 26:30very very meaningful life and that's how
- 26:33I got in touch with Victor Franco
- 26:35because I kept my secret until somebody
- 26:40hand me the book man's search for
- 26:42meaning me and so my book is the female
- 26:47who is a victim
- 26:59how is your experience and how is there
- 27:02life as a whole affected your worldview
- 27:04today can you repeat the question please
- 27:09how is your life affected your worldview
- 27:12my third viewer I think there is a gift
- 27:16in everything I'm always looking for
- 27:19exists and everything that you always
- 27:22find what you look for and I'm looking
- 27:26for hope and I want to be more realistic
- 27:30rather than ideal mistake because when
- 27:34an ideal has come and they don't find
- 27:38exactly what they're looking for
- 27:40I've seen them being very sarcastic
- 27:42whereas cynical Romanians are very
- 27:45cynical and and I like philosophical
- 27:50humor and my view is that what I am Here
- 27:57I am going to do everything in my power
- 28:02to see to it that your children and
- 28:05grandchildren and I have to be great
- 28:08when sons will never experience what I
- 28:11did so we're not gonna be my deathbed
- 28:14I'm gonna be so satisfied that I was
- 28:18healed at the grammar school
- 28:20and that I suck
- 28:22my 90th birthday and turn life into a
- 28:26constant celebration but to be a realist
- 28:29rather than idealist
- 28:32don't confuse romanticism with realism
- 28:37yeah that was good question we can't do
- 28:56that
- 28:57you said you wanted to come it back you
- 29:01tell me that question because I'm 14
- 29:18well why don't you make a card and could
- 29:24you mean and then put under the
- 29:26president the necklace if you practice
- 29:35makes it perfect what in fact
- 29:44[Music]
- 29:48go back to where it started her sister
- 29:52said that was crazy I thought my sister
- 29:54to come with me to honor my parents yes
- 29:57did you ever honor them yes I did go
- 30:00back
- 30:02that's a gradient question that is so
- 30:07brilliant so brilliant when I went back
- 30:16to Auschwitz
- 30:17I was so scared because I've saw the
- 30:25weather it may have not been the one
- 30:29where I was dancing for dr. Michael and
- 30:33the man who was responsible for my
- 30:36penance then I never could do anything
- 30:40in the therapists room I have to go back
- 30:44to that lineup stand and look at that
- 30:46lion in her face it was one of the most
- 30:50positive thing I have done in my life
- 30:54for me but as you can see going to the
- 30:59same experience even bigger than
- 31:02responses
- 31:03it doesn't mean that I'm right and my
- 31:05sister is probably Allah it of course
- 31:08our guy but the Holy right of me I
- 31:11cannot be right with anyone else that
- 31:14was a brilliant question and this is
- 31:17really so important but you see when I
- 31:20was coming out I saw a man in a uniform
- 31:24and for a moment I thought I was back
- 31:30with an action and the realization that
- 31:36I had a blue American
- 31:38in my pocket I never could have
- 31:43experienced that anywhere else except
- 31:46going back to that place it was a
- 31:49polished somebody there who was there so
- 31:53I am hoping that I can be a witness to
- 32:03let people know what can happen when
- 32:07good people do bad things if I would
- 32:11have lived in Vienna if I would have
- 32:14been born in Germany and Hungary to ever
- 32:19tell me that to be Germany and tomorrow
- 32:21to all world children are very
- 32:24impressionable I wonder if I would have
- 32:28been a very enthusiastic member of them
- 32:32it will him so sometimes she tried to
- 32:38figure too much you see and just live
- 32:43life for the fullest that we can all the
- 32:47diets and none of that is going to do
- 32:50you some good unless you become a good
- 32:54parent to you so see if that you can the
- 32:58body and the mind is very important but
- 33:02the third dimension is the spiritual
- 33:06because I know when I fly I know that
- 33:09the pilot goes back and forth back and
- 33:11forth and then I see the blue sky the
- 33:14blue skies meant that all alone see how
- 33:17you can let hold of some of your
- 33:22unrealistic expectation some of your
- 33:25chronic anger because nothing blocks
- 33:28intimacy war and low level chronic anger
- 33:33so that is a lot and that may be going
- 33:36on tonight in your mind and I hope that
- 33:40I can be the midwife to you the
- 33:43spiritual midwife they to give birth to
- 33:46the you that was elementary because God
- 33:49doesn't make junk and I love them you're
- 33:52beautiful just the way you are and if
- 33:55you leave his room no one can ever
- 33:58replace you
- 33:59this is the wet school this is the best
- 34:03school when the children's one of the
- 34:06kindness uniqueness is being celebrated
- 34:09every day in every every every class so
- 34:14congratulations to you thank you for
- 34:18telling us about the blue sky and that's
- 34:20something that we can spend all the rest
- 34:21of the year talking about anything else
- 34:29more question
- 34:32I'm just needed to begin good work
- 34:38I have my love to see do you know that I
- 34:45do not have my ID show Maya Angelou was
- 34:50raped but she was seven years old and
- 34:54she says her babies died a couple of
- 34:58days later and she thought she said she
- 35:01caused his death and she said for seven
- 35:06years I went to deflect like already and
- 35:09I read everything and then I went to the
- 35:12white library and read everything for
- 35:16seven years
- 35:17and when I opened my mouth I had a lot
- 35:20to say I am very much identifying with
- 35:24that too and that I never thought I
- 35:27could catch up with you that I learn
- 35:30more and studied more and professor says
- 35:34we won't book I read ten books and when
- 35:37I opened my mouth I have about to say
- 35:39thank you this woman is brilliant
- 35:46because she keeps him of your body and
- 35:49the mind and the soul and she teaches
- 35:52elderly people how to exercise sitting
- 35:56down amazing women for many years I have
- 36:09a question I can ask questions all day
- 36:11long right better question about how to
- 36:15best deal with the unknown of the future
- 36:20there's sometimes arteries
- 36:22in particular my daughter's where the
- 36:29questions are unanswered you've been
- 36:30through that many times of course what
- 36:32what do you say that will touch all of
- 36:35us and help us to be peaceful with that
- 36:40you know what you're thinking closer to
- 36:43the feelings so I said think about you
- 36:47thinking and pay attention what to pay
- 36:50attention to because anybody where you
- 36:53pay attention to you reinforce that
- 36:56behavior
- 36:57parents need to learn that I told you
- 37:00100 times you be comfortable local
- 37:03record and what I like to also say to
- 37:07you that I go dancing works to be and
- 37:11that is my dancing partner well his name
- 37:14is Jean courage and he picks me up every
- 37:18Sunday and
- 37:23[Applause]
- 37:26[Music]
- 37:27[Applause]
- 37:28[Music]
- 37:40[Music]
- 37:41I love the big band and it's my kind of
- 37:45music
- 37:46so anyway any any anything you pay
- 37:49attention to you have to be very careful
- 37:51that you always read wait until your
- 37:55child does something that you would like
- 37:57and then you leave for that behavior
- 38:00thank you for being kind of thank you
- 38:04for being considerate and so on why
- 38:09don't you do this oh why thank you
- 38:11so I asked you not to ask questions how
- 38:14are you and don't say why don't you do
- 38:16this so why did you do because every
- 38:20time what you do when you give advice
- 38:23you tell that other person that I'm
- 38:27smart and used to pretend I know what's
- 38:29good for me so I think I did love except
- 38:33for that word T IME time take your time
- 38:40and just say I wanted about that myself
- 38:44is a very good question just ask me very
- 38:48good question and the hand and that's
- 38:53what it is that you don't have to have
- 38:55an answer why is the best oriented well
- 38:59for is the problem orient why did you do
- 39:02that or why don't you do that I think
- 39:04the parents give too much advice and
- 39:07they're not very good listeners I
- 39:11for men just to say that me more I would
- 39:16like to hear more about it because when
- 39:19I was 14 I had a very different
- 39:23situation than you do and that's why we
- 39:26don't have answers but we're there to
- 39:29keep the feelings company to Steve the
- 39:35feeling any feeling you can't heal them
- 39:40what you don't feel okay so yeah it's
- 39:45alright thank you very much thank you so
- 39:53much I wanted to say well we're looking
- 39:55for the next question that as the
- 39:58program is is just a very few minutes
- 40:00we're going to move this table around
- 40:03here and crank up the big band music
- 40:07again we have about 20 votes only I'm
- 40:10afraid that we can sell but if you
- 40:13brought your own equal sign notes as
- 40:15well than one make sure that you're all
- 40:17welcome to do that so it seems that any
- 40:22more questions you know this is the
- 40:26evening time of my life and I'm very
- 40:31very careful who I want to be remembered
- 40:35and it's just so wonderful I'm just
- 40:41curious what advice would you give
- 40:42that's what's your name you can make a
- 40:57difference wherever you are wherever you
- 41:03are the libraries are open as long as
- 41:07you make up your mind that you want to
- 41:10go to Stanford and if you do you start
- 41:14studying when you're 12 years old that's
- 41:18what you do
- 41:20and my efficient electorate Philip
- 41:23Zimbardo professor at Stanford and we go
- 41:29to a place like Flint Michigan is the
- 41:32poorest city in America and guiding
- 41:35young people to stay in school stay in
- 41:40school and stop bullying and I think
- 41:43that you can be that person you can be
- 41:48the wise young men who are saying you
- 41:52have a choice to be miserable or you
- 41:57look for something that you can describe
- 41:59others so why don't you go and talk to
- 42:05the little children who woulda told you
- 42:09you do that yeah and have them be there
- 42:15older and she see how the children would
- 42:19want to become not just boys but men and
- 42:25I think you would be one of the kind
- 42:28wonderful giant who can do
- 42:30I have faith in you thank you thank you
- 42:34so no don't call me shrink call me
- 42:38stretch your mind I think I loved about
- 42:53your book was out the people that you
- 42:55have been giving therapy to and
- 42:57counseling to have been in the craziest
- 42:59situations and felt trapped in so many
- 43:01ways and you've always discussed how
- 43:04many how to find choices in the craziest
- 43:07darkest places are all these choices so
- 43:18I'm gonna take you back I think all of
- 43:20us are interested in the stories so you
- 43:25were 14 which they can't write I was 16
- 43:29the imagines 16 so I was just curious
- 43:33today we give our kids support groups
- 43:36gods if there's books internet you were
- 43:40just 16 years old you have nothing and
- 43:43we can't even imagine experience but I'm
- 43:46just curious when you were in the camp
- 43:49then you knew you have to survive how
- 43:54what was your support or how did you
- 43:56even think about you said you would just
- 43:58try to survive to the next day but when
- 44:01you came in you had no survival skills
- 44:03how what was that like if you could just
- 44:06take just a little bit how what was that
- 44:09like and maybe how that served
- 44:12I had the boyfriend my father told me
- 44:20I'm glad that you have brains because
- 44:24you have
- 44:28you know we give them a name you play
- 44:31the game I became a pair do that
- 44:33teenager he turned up just like Anna
- 44:36Frank and my father boy Fred told me
- 44:40that I had beautiful eyes and beautiful
- 44:43hands
- 44:44and in Auschwitz I could come to
- 44:47everyone tell me about my eyes tell me
- 44:51about my hands because if I survive
- 44:55today then tomorrow I'm gonna see my
- 44:58boyfriend addict
- 45:01and then I came home he was the first
- 45:05person I was looking for and I was told
- 45:08that he was shocked and they before
- 45:11liberation so in Auschwitz that what
- 45:15kept me somehow that I have to survive
- 45:19so I can show him my eyes and my hands
- 45:24that's what I remember that if I survive
- 45:29today then I'll be free tomorrow never
- 45:32once I even imagined even though I was
- 45:37told every day that the only way I will
- 45:39get out of here as a course they took my
- 45:43blood at least twice a week and I asked
- 45:46why do you take my gun and he said to
- 45:49eat German soldiers so we can take over
- 45:54America I can hang my arm maybe like I
- 45:59could reach what was outside of me and
- 46:02I've said to myself with my dad you
- 46:06never gonna win the war was another
- 46:08vision you know the humor that humor see
- 46:14they beat me and they torture me they
- 46:17could throw me in a gas chamber but I
- 46:20couldn't
- 46:21my spirit and that's what I think you
- 46:24here tonight I kind of a defiance that
- 46:29kind of a cold spot in my spirit yes
- 46:35I'll show you you know whatever you say
- 46:38you can talk whatever you want and I'm
- 46:40not going to allow you to get to me and
- 46:45believe me you are powerful you are
- 46:48powerful you have a power to choose the
- 46:52way you respond to any not react because
- 46:55when you react
- 46:57you don't think now hard-sell v8 that
- 47:00the Nobel prizes stress early studies he
- 47:03says I am stressful that come to you you
- 47:07have to automatic responses you either
- 47:09fight or fee I can fight in our streets
- 47:13I could open and shut right away and
- 47:15many people I can't see because if I
- 47:18would have touched about wires I would
- 47:21have been electrocuted so I have to
- 47:24learn how to find some kind of comfort
- 47:28in discomfort and recognize the
- 47:31reputation and even then I ate the soup
- 47:37and saved the bread because my sister
- 47:42was heavy and I was skinny and she was
- 47:45more concrete enough we have choices
- 47:47when cannibalism cloaca before we were
- 47:51liberated today I tell people go see The
- 47:55Sound of Music
- 47:57because I didn't wanna touch human flesh
- 48:00and I started to choose between one
- 48:03blade of grass over and against the
- 48:05there and then someone says I can't I go
- 48:09to your classroom and I take the
- 48:12apostrophe and I take the T and I say I
- 48:15can
- 48:16why because I think I came just like the
- 48:21truth train I think I can I think I can
- 48:24I think I can is what you think that's
- 48:28how you're gonna be promised that if I
- 48:47helped her out
- 49:11[Music]
- 49:20[Music]
- 49:23you
- 49:32you
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