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The Future of Design Thinking, AI & Data Humanization Explained | Takram’s Vision for the Future — Transcript

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  1. 0:12I was using some of the technologies and
  2. 0:14materials that was still new
  3. 0:17and creating, I think, what we called
  4. 0:19interactive art. So, this one was a
  5. 0:22human-scale structure that you can go in
  6. 0:24and it shifted shape in response
  7. 0:28to the movement of people inside.
  8. 0:30The goal at that time was to critically
  9. 0:32communicate this idea, the implications
  10. 0:35of this idea, interactive architecture.
  11. 0:37What does it mean for you to be living
  12. 0:39in a space that is truly or physically
  13. 0:42interactive?
  14. 0:44Does it feel comfortable? Does it feel
  15. 0:46invasive? Or perhaps, does it feel like
  16. 0:48an extension of yourself? So, there was
  17. 0:50a bunch of kind of more than technical
  18. 0:53questions that I had when creating this.
  19. 0:55But, the questions from the audience
  20. 0:56that I got whenever I put this piece in
  21. 0:59an exhibition context
  22. 1:00was this.
  23. 1:03How does this work?
  24. 1:06It's a bit like a curse as a person from
  25. 1:08a technical background showing something
  26. 1:10that is above technical.
  27. 1:13They ask this question,
  28. 1:15quickly figure out the sort of algorithm
  29. 1:17behind the piece,
  30. 1:19they play for a bit, and then they just
  31. 1:21leave.
  32. 1:24No offense, it's not their fault, it's
  33. 1:25100% my fault.
  34. 1:28The only way I knew in communicating
  35. 1:30technology was just to be
  36. 1:33consumed as entertainment.
  37. 1:36So, I decided to move to London
  38. 1:39to study under Dunne & Raby,
  39. 1:41who coined the term critical design. I'm
  40. 1:43sure they have been here before.
  41. 1:47To be able to communicate and talk about
  42. 1:51technological and engineering matters
  43. 1:53from a much more sort of humanistic
  44. 1:56perspective.
  45. 2:00Since then, I've been always practicing
  46. 2:02both design and engineering.
  47. 2:06Sometimes I design user interfaces while
  48. 2:08reading technical papers.
  49. 2:10Sometimes I code
  50. 2:12while reading, I don't know, things like
  51. 2:14object-oriented ontology.
  52. 2:19Founded in 2006,
  53. 2:22our studio Takram has so many people who
  54. 2:25share an experience like mine.
  55. 2:28The struggle
  56. 2:29or the constant movement between design
  57. 2:31and engineering.
  58. 2:33No wonder the studio was named as such.
  59. 2:3614 years later, we're still operating
  60. 2:39dealing with the same struggle.
  61. 2:42But we also have expanded our expertise
  62. 2:45beyond design and engineering
  63. 2:48to incorporate
  64. 2:50broader disciplines.
  65. 2:52So, we decided to drop design
  66. 2:53engineering and started simply call
  67. 2:55ourselves Takram.
  68. 2:57We not only relocated our studio in
  69. 3:00Tokyo three times
  70. 3:02due to kind of continuous expansion of
  71. 3:05the team,
  72. 3:06we also
  73. 3:08went beyond Japan. We have one one
  74. 3:10studio now in London, which I'm based
  75. 3:12in,
  76. 3:13another in New York,
  77. 3:15and we're hoping that we can open
  78. 3:17another studio in China sometime next
  79. 3:19year.
  80. 3:22As I mentioned,
  81. 3:23our expertise have sort of expanded out
  82. 3:26of this much more narrowly defined
  83. 3:28design engineering innovation world
  84. 3:32to include things like business,
  85. 3:34spatial,
  86. 3:36speculative context, etc.
  87. 3:42We choose to design across sectors and
  88. 3:44disciplines.
  89. 3:46But overall,
  90. 3:47our what we design can be grouped into
  91. 3:50these three: products and services,
  92. 3:52brands and strategy,
  93. 3:54features and experimental.
  94. 3:58We make camera lenses, mobile apps, cars
  95. 4:01and uniforms.
  96. 4:03Working at every stage of development
  97. 4:05from concept to execution.
  98. 4:09We create brands and communication. The
  99. 4:11outputs here are more sort of
  100. 4:13physical, digital, strategic,
  101. 4:16encompassing things like
  102. 4:18packaging, identities,
  103. 4:20and even sometimes business models.
  104. 4:24We also use design to expand our future
  105. 4:26possibilities.
  106. 4:28Once we've created this
  107. 4:30kind of whole new AI voice assistant
  108. 4:33interaction
  109. 4:35by using Swarovski's crystal
  110. 4:38as a sort of future-telling crystal
  111. 4:40ball. So, like, Alexa, Alexa, tell me my
  112. 4:43future.
  113. 4:44While swinging in between these
  114. 4:46different disciplines,
  115. 4:49we identified a pattern
  116. 4:51that allowed us to navigate
  117. 4:53seemingly different or sometimes perhaps
  118. 4:55even
  119. 4:57seemingly completely opposite
  120. 4:58considerations in product development.
  121. 5:01It's a realization that, you know, like,
  122. 5:03everyone talks about combining multiple
  123. 5:05disciplines,
  124. 5:06but that only works in an environment
  125. 5:09where one can truly and constantly in
  126. 5:12flux
  127. 5:13being able to oscillate between those
  128. 5:15disciplines.
  129. 5:19So, we call this mindset pendulum
  130. 5:20thinking,
  131. 5:22referring to the nature of swinging and
  132. 5:25switching.
  133. 5:26For example,
  134. 5:27in design and engineering, it's really
  135. 5:29important for us to
  136. 5:31keep our design mind and engineer mind
  137. 5:34separate
  138. 5:36within ourselves.
  139. 5:37But, more like kind of moving between
  140. 5:40the two seamlessly rather than trying to
  141. 5:42combine the two mindsets into one
  142. 5:44thought process.
  143. 5:48So, in the studios,
  144. 5:50we swing our pendulums across
  145. 5:52different planes of reference,
  146. 5:55like design and engineering,
  147. 5:58thinking and doing, like all the design
  148. 6:00that the folks are doing,
  149. 6:02digital physical,
  150. 6:04problem finding and solving,
  151. 6:06and data-driven design and design-driven
  152. 6:09data,
  153. 6:11which is
  154. 6:12the segue into
  155. 6:14the thing that I'm going to talk a
  156. 6:15little bit about today.
  157. 6:18Design and data and design.
  158. 6:21An area which we think
  159. 6:23can be better explored and perhaps in a
  160. 6:26more
  161. 6:28alternative directions.
  162. 6:33The history of visualized data starts at
  163. 6:36the 10th century.
  164. 6:39As you can see here,
  165. 6:42since the beginning of time,
  166. 6:44as our ability to measure and collect
  167. 6:46data evolved,
  168. 6:48so did our ability to interpret it
  169. 6:51and visualize it.
  170. 6:54Built on top of building on top of these
  171. 6:56great precedents,
  172. 6:58we have done some kind of visualization
  173. 7:01work that is for creating approachable
  174. 7:04and actionable data
  175. 7:06through the use of design.
  176. 7:08So, I'm going to show a little bit about
  177. 7:10it.
  178. 7:14In 2015,
  179. 7:16we were approached by the Japanese
  180. 7:18government to collaborate on creating
  181. 7:21and exploring data visualization
  182. 7:24for their various data sets.
  183. 7:27The data that we received was immense.
  184. 7:30It covered everything from population
  185. 7:33data to corporate activities,
  186. 7:36from welfare to the financial state of
  187. 7:39local governments.
  188. 7:41Even the data about population density
  189. 7:43alone was super rich
  190. 7:46with granular information about
  191. 7:49different aspects of our everyday life.
  192. 7:51Things like
  193. 7:52change in the population throughout the
  194. 7:54day, change in the number of commuters
  195. 7:56throughout the day, etc.
  196. 7:59But the problem was
  197. 8:02the policy makers
  198. 8:04had to heavily rely on data scientists
  199. 8:07to interpret it and make sense of it
  200. 8:09all.
  201. 8:10So as designers who have been kind of
  202. 8:13bridging the gaps between different
  203. 8:14fields, we thought this was a challenge.
  204. 8:16This is This was an opportunity for us
  205. 8:19to try and connect policy makers to data
  206. 8:23allowing them to swing their own version
  207. 8:24of pendulum of
  208. 8:27between being a policy maker
  209. 8:30and a data scientist.
  210. 8:34The first thing we did in the project
  211. 8:36was quite straightforward.
  212. 8:38We sort of
  213. 8:39prototyped a sort of simple version of
  214. 8:42data visualization framework platform
  215. 8:45which can eat and map almost most of the
  216. 8:49types of data that we have been
  217. 8:51provided.
  218. 8:52And sat together with policy maker and
  219. 8:54data scientists so that we can sort of
  220. 8:57mix and match mix and match different
  221. 8:58data sets and show in front of us.
  222. 9:01And discuss together
  223. 9:02what kind of the most effective ways to
  224. 9:05combine the data sets, present side by
  225. 9:08side,
  226. 9:10and also the most effective ways to
  227. 9:12present each of them.
  228. 9:15The resulting prototype is called
  229. 9:17Recess.
  230. 9:21>> Recess is the world's largest
  231. 9:22visualization system for nations'
  232. 9:25economic big data.
  233. 9:27Its approach to this advanced challenge
  234. 9:29has resulted in a highly valued
  235. 9:31leading-edge project.
  236. 9:35In order to develop and create this
  237. 9:37complex
  238. 9:38and design within a limited amount of
  239. 9:39time,
  240. 9:40prototyping was an essential part of the
  241. 9:42process,
  242. 9:43which enabled efficient hypothesis
  243. 9:45testing.
  244. 9:47Through this trial and error, we
  245. 9:48developed the prototype's beautiful but
  246. 9:50coherent visualization of big data.
  247. 9:55The Japanese economy today, particularly
  248. 9:57in the regional economy,
  249. 9:59faces severe structural issues caused by
  250. 10:01population decline along with other
  251. 10:03social factors.
  252. 10:08We propose that this prototype
  253. 10:10contributes to the development of the
  254. 10:12regional economy
  255. 10:13by providing small and medium-sized
  256. 10:15businesses with valuable insights from
  257. 10:18nationwide data analysis and
  258. 10:20visualization.
  259. 10:23Sophisticated both aesthetically and
  260. 10:25functionally,
  261. 10:26Recess is engineered with low-latency
  262. 10:28rendering capability and interactivity.
  263. 10:33Using the development and regional
  264. 10:35economy as one example,
  265. 10:37this prototype proves that design and
  266. 10:40data visualization techniques can
  267. 10:42positively contribute to socioeconomic
  268. 10:44issues.
  269. 10:54>> As mentioned in the video, Recess
  270. 10:56enabled policy makers to really sort of
  271. 10:59explore government data to generate new
  272. 11:02insights.
  273. 11:04For example,
  274. 11:05if you map the movement of population in
  275. 11:07each prefecture like this,
  276. 11:09then you start to understand some of the
  277. 11:11key elements
  278. 11:13that attract people to move and start
  279. 11:15brainstorming around
  280. 11:17that aspect of knowledge.
  281. 11:21If you map the supply chain of Toyota,
  282. 11:23then you can start seeing some of the
  283. 11:25places that Toyota is dependent upon
  284. 11:28and start thinking about how to mitigate
  285. 11:30the risks of adverse pressures on those
  286. 11:33areas.
  287. 11:37If you map how different industries are
  288. 11:41dependent interdependent upon each
  289. 11:42other,
  290. 11:44then you can sort of start assessing the
  291. 11:46resilience of certain areas that you're
  292. 11:48interested in.
  293. 11:50So, all of these dynamics became
  294. 11:52intuitively understandable through the
  295. 11:55power of visual visualizations.
  296. 12:00It really sort of became an x-ray
  297. 12:03scanner for policy makers that connects
  298. 12:05policy making with real-world data.
  299. 12:08As a matter of fact, even today, Recess
  300. 12:11is used by different departments of the
  301. 12:13national government as well as local
  302. 12:16government representatives.
  303. 12:22The power of intuitive understanding
  304. 12:24through visuals were also allowing them
  305. 12:27to refer to the actual data
  306. 12:30gave users Recess
  307. 12:32the ability to iterate upon their
  308. 12:34hypothesis.
  309. 12:36They can quickly build and test
  310. 12:39their intelligence models that are
  311. 12:41linked to the real-world data.
  312. 12:48While this project Recess gave us an
  313. 12:49opportunity to explore data on a
  314. 12:52governmental level,
  315. 12:54we're also interested in
  316. 12:56everyday like sort of all the how an
  317. 12:58ordinary people interact with data in
  318. 13:00their day-to-day life.
  319. 13:03Unlike political decision makers or data
  320. 13:06scientists,
  321. 13:07consumers like us
  322. 13:09are not typically specialists in the
  323. 13:11types of data that we're dealing with.
  324. 13:15Or moreover,
  325. 13:17they often misinterpret or misunderstand
  326. 13:20the significance or the implications of
  327. 13:22it.
  328. 13:24That was the motivation behind this
  329. 13:25self-initiated project that I'm going to
  330. 13:27talk about, which explores the
  331. 13:29relationship between data
  332. 13:32and personal health.
  333. 13:34We targeted cyclists cycling, which is
  334. 13:37one of the which is said to be
  335. 13:39apparently one of the most data
  336. 13:41intensive activities on the planet.
  337. 13:45The data would include things like
  338. 13:46geolocation,
  339. 13:48speed, cadence, ascent, descent,
  340. 13:51heart rate, etc.
  341. 13:55Through the research,
  342. 13:56it became clear
  343. 13:58that many of the casual cyclists like
  344. 14:00myself,
  345. 14:02who have
  346. 14:03who use GPS trackers and other smart
  347. 14:06devices, were all overwhelmed by the
  348. 14:08amount of data available to them.
  349. 14:12Perhaps sometimes they are useful and
  350. 14:14helpful,
  351. 14:15but they don't really give you kind of
  352. 14:18new insights or in-depth understanding
  353. 14:20of how you are performing.
  354. 14:24So, we decided to focus on designing
  355. 14:26data around people, not the other way
  356. 14:28around. It's nothing to do with making
  357. 14:31data look prettier. It's designing
  358. 14:34data around you.
  359. 14:37The result resulting product is called
  360. 14:39Otto,
  361. 14:40a data tracker and presenter that fits
  362. 14:43into people's everyday life.
  363. 14:51>> It's really great to have much more
  364. 14:54balanced level of information. Something
  365. 14:56that simplifies things can just gives
  366. 14:59you enough to keep going and get better
  367. 15:02without becoming distracted.
  368. 15:06>> It doesn't give you numbers, but it
  369. 15:08gives you more like overview of
  370. 15:10different aspects of your health. Before
  371. 15:14going to a ride, I I use Otto because it
  372. 15:17gives me several tips, not only weather
  373. 15:19and nutrition, but also hydration tips.
  374. 15:22So, you're informed of how much water
  375. 15:24you will need through the ride.
  376. 15:28After I ride it, Auto tracks my
  377. 15:30nutritional values and it's linked to
  378. 15:33some of my personal recipes, so I would
  379. 15:36know what's the best food to eat to
  380. 15:39refuel myself.
  381. 15:43It hasn't changed my daily routine, but
  382. 15:46it's now it's just part of my daily
  383. 15:48life.
  384. 16:15>> So, we started with a simple humble
  385. 16:17bathroom scale.
  386. 16:18And Auto is an integrated monitoring
  387. 16:21device to accompany you accompany the
  388. 16:23user
  389. 16:26and present their own data narrative,
  390. 16:29per se, in an engaging, inspiring, and
  391. 16:31more personal way.
  392. 16:35It provides information when and where
  393. 16:38people would need to interact with it.
  394. 16:42While it seamlessly blends into blends
  395. 16:44the data interactions into everyday
  396. 16:46life,
  397. 16:48it also presents in a much more leaner
  398. 16:50format.
  399. 16:52So, the the concept of the word lean
  400. 16:54data or data diet
  401. 16:57were leading the project.
  402. 17:01What became clear is the importance of
  403. 17:04context when it comes to understanding
  404. 17:05something.
  405. 17:07We humans heavily rely on context, as we
  406. 17:09all know,
  407. 17:10to understand anything and everything.
  408. 17:13If you wanted to go on a diet,
  409. 17:16you'd probably concerned about it when
  410. 17:17you're on a bathroom scale,
  411. 17:19right?
  412. 17:21But also equally,
  413. 17:22you'll be concerned about it when you're
  414. 17:24in your kitchen preparing your next
  415. 17:26meal.
  416. 17:28That's also how Auto helps you
  417. 17:31in terms of presenting data and
  418. 17:33information needed for specific context.
  419. 17:36So, the data needs to be obtained and
  420. 17:38presented
  421. 17:39with a context in form informing how and
  422. 17:42when people can act upon it.
  423. 17:48Another area we thought to be
  424. 17:49interesting to pursue with research
  425. 17:53was to make it more personal and
  426. 17:55relatable experience. So, we captured
  427. 17:57the entire skyscape using the flight
  428. 18:00path data available online
  429. 18:02and translated it into a virtual reality
  430. 18:05experience.
  431. 18:07So, this is a video
  432. 18:09from
  433. 18:11the exhibition that we self-organized in
  434. 18:13back in 2016 for London Design Festival.
  435. 18:17So, you wear these gloves
  436. 18:19and you wear these
  437. 18:21Google VR headset
  438. 18:23and you literally pinch in to zoom in to
  439. 18:26reveal the details of each airplane, one
  440. 18:29of the one of these airplanes that are
  441. 18:31flying above you in the virtual space.
  442. 18:36And these gloves got a haptic feedback
  443. 18:38for pinching and zooming in that's got a
  444. 18:40little bit of physical tick
  445. 18:42so that you can feel
  446. 18:44what you're doing in even in your
  447. 18:46virtual space.
  448. 18:48With this, people could interact with
  449. 18:50the data in this case,
  450. 18:52the planes flying around you,
  451. 18:55directly via hand gestures.
  452. 18:58You could almost stand at your home
  453. 19:00address, look above
  454. 19:02to see how many planes would be flying
  455. 19:04above your hometown
  456. 19:07if, say,
  457. 19:08a new runway would be to be built in a
  458. 19:11nearby airport.
  459. 19:13And that kind of experience can be
  460. 19:14really really strong strong trigger for
  461. 19:17someone to act upon it.
  462. 19:19Because it's super personal.
  463. 19:23The insight here
  464. 19:25is that technologies like VR can
  465. 19:28translate data into more personal human
  466. 19:30scale experiences.
  467. 19:33We could literally think and feel the
  468. 19:36data
  469. 19:37fully utilizing our special awareness.
  470. 19:41Which we thought was super powerful way
  471. 19:43when it comes to interacting with data
  472. 19:45and relating to it.
  473. 19:49Bit of a pause.
  474. 19:51Looking back what we have presented so
  475. 19:53far.
  476. 19:58We've experimented at different levels.
  477. 20:01Governmental, personal,
  478. 20:03virtual reality.
  479. 20:05But these things, hypothesis building,
  480. 20:07testing, contextual understanding,
  481. 20:08special awareness.
  482. 20:12These experiments are basically
  483. 20:14an attempt
  484. 20:16to transform data into something more
  485. 20:19accessible
  486. 20:21and relatable
  487. 20:23and actionable.
  488. 20:25But the most important thing here
  489. 20:27is that by doing so
  490. 20:29it creates a more room, a more space for
  491. 20:33human ability, human capability, and our
  492. 20:35thinking to kick in. Our idea starting
  493. 20:38to interact with data.
  494. 20:41That is the most important thing and
  495. 20:42then that is what
  496. 20:45we believe
  497. 20:46is the true potential of what people are
  498. 20:49referring to as data humanization.
  499. 20:55Data has become an important human
  500. 20:56artifact. It has become a subject of
  501. 20:59design.
  502. 21:00When fully utilized, the combination of
  503. 21:03data and design can enable different
  504. 21:05capabilities of people and empower them.
  505. 21:08It's not just a way to present or
  506. 21:11communicate, but it's a way to adopt
  507. 21:13data truly as a tool for people
  508. 21:16to observe, think, and act.
  509. 21:23With data humanization concept in mind,
  510. 21:27when we got this offer from Ravi,
  511. 21:30we decided to create another prototype
  512. 21:33for Design Deba for today.
  513. 21:35So, it's a sort of world premiere-ish
  514. 21:37um occasion. It's a sneak preview.
  515. 21:41So, I'm going to show the prototype
  516. 21:43that we've been work that we've been
  517. 21:44working on in the in the last couple of
  518. 21:46months.
  519. 21:49Right. So, the
  520. 21:51obviously, there isn't a single day that
  521. 21:53passes without talking or at least
  522. 21:57without hearing about climate crisis,
  523. 21:58climate change, and sea level rising.
  524. 22:06There's so much data available about
  525. 22:09climate change
  526. 22:11and sea level rising.
  527. 22:13We also roughly know how the different
  528. 22:16aspects
  529. 22:18of our life accelerate this global
  530. 22:20crisis.
  531. 22:21And yet, we fail to put them to action.
  532. 22:28What if we can evaluate the different
  533. 22:31decisions and actions we make every day
  534. 22:34and see the impacts that they have on
  535. 22:36our environment around us?
  536. 22:41And the prototype is called Rise AR.
  537. 22:44It's an AR experience, augmented reality
  538. 22:46experience, that questions our thoughts
  539. 22:49and actions regarding climate change,
  540. 22:52and shows its impact.
  541. 24:48>> So, he asks it's enough to ask you a set
  542. 24:51of questions related to your day-to-day
  543. 24:53activities, and you will answer to them
  544. 24:56with a super simple approachable almost
  545. 24:58kinderish left and right
  546. 25:01gestures.
  547. 25:03And depending on your answer,
  548. 25:05the virtual water level rises or falls.
  549. 25:09So with the apps where we are using
  550. 25:11filming, um I found
  551. 25:15our studio to be going completely under
  552. 25:17water as you saw.
  553. 25:18And so maybe we can
  554. 25:21think about next time we come to Design
  555. 25:22Daba, maybe we take trains
  556. 25:26or at at least we can take um
  557. 25:29climate uh carbon offset program when we
  558. 25:31are flying. Maybe something that we can
  559. 25:33talk about later.
  560. 25:38So,
  561. 25:40I'd like to demonstrate this app because
  562. 25:42it's a mobile phone app and then we
  563. 25:44created for this occasion. So, why not
  564. 25:46try now? And uh you must have been
  565. 25:48wondering what this
  566. 25:50ping pong bat has been all about.
  567. 25:53So,
  568. 25:55and um
  569. 25:58so we will be doing a demo on stage and
  570. 26:01who's going to be answering those quiz?
  571. 26:04Everyone.
  572. 26:06So, for doing that, I'd like to welcome
  573. 26:09my colleague Ken Fujiyoshi to the stage.
  574. 26:18So,
  575. 26:19Ken is going to be holding a phone. It's
  576. 26:21just a sort of gimbal that we had device
  577. 26:23that he's holding so that he has a less
  578. 26:25to go.
  579. 26:27And uh he's going to do all the Tinder
  580. 26:29swipe and answering on behalf of all of
  581. 26:31us.
  582. 26:33And yeah, we are answering by using this
  583. 26:36bat. So, you have one side in red, one
  584. 26:39side in yellow.
  585. 26:41And as you saw in the film, you might
  586. 26:42you might have not noticed because of
  587. 26:44the sort of quality of the film image,
  588. 26:46but
  589. 26:47always on the left hand side answer is
  590. 26:49colored in red and the answer on the
  591. 26:52right hand side is always on yellow,
  592. 26:55sorry. The other way, sorry.
  593. 26:58So, you tell me your answer by showing
  594. 27:02me the color of the answer.
  595. 27:05So, you ready again? Good.
  596. 27:07Cool.
  597. 27:10All right.
  598. 27:12So,
  599. 27:13who wants to save us from drowning?
  600. 27:17Oh, yes.
  601. 27:19Yay.
  602. 27:22Don't want to be drowned. Help me,
  603. 27:23please, right? Um how did you get to
  604. 27:26Design Indaba?
  605. 27:29Rail coach
  606. 27:31or plane?
  607. 27:34I think it seems we are all on plane. We
  608. 27:36are all guilty.
  609. 27:38Maybe except for the virtual
  610. 27:41participants who are in the SimCast
  611. 27:44locations. It cuts off 80% of the carbon
  612. 27:47emissions from the entire travel. That's
  613. 27:49great thing to do.
  614. 27:51What What What's your dinner last night?
  615. 27:53Was it more like beef burger? Was it
  616. 27:56more like veggie burger?
  617. 28:00I was on veggie.
  618. 28:02It's really hard. I think
  619. 28:05uh
  620. 28:06I have to say with a great regret, it's
  621. 28:09a red.
  622. 28:11Ah.
  623. 28:13Save me.
  624. 28:15Save me. It's too early. It's just two
  625. 28:17questions questions out of 10. We've got
  626. 28:20loads of more time.
  627. 28:22What transport did you use to go about
  628. 28:25in Cape Town? Is it mostly public
  629. 28:27transport, walking,
  630. 28:29or taxi all the time?
  631. 28:33Serious.
  632. 28:35Serious.
  633. 28:37Oh my god.
  634. 28:38Right, it's taxi all the time, all
  635. 28:40right. I think we are doomed.
  636. 28:45But it depends, maybe taxi might have
  637. 28:47been electrified if the electric
  638. 28:49electricity was generated with renewable
  639. 28:51sources, then it might be okay.
  640. 28:53Did you carbon offset your flight to
  641. 28:55South Africa?
  642. 28:56If you are from South Africa, your last
  643. 28:58last flight.
  644. 29:01Never considered.
  645. 29:06Great, some yellow I can see, but that's
  646. 29:08Never considered. Although
  647. 29:11carbon offsetting program has said to be
  648. 29:14completely No, not really, kind of it's
  649. 29:16maybe better than doing nothing, but it
  650. 29:17takes 25 years to pay start to pay off,
  651. 29:20right? So, something to note.
  652. 29:23Where are all your old smartphones now?
  653. 29:26Are they chucked away in a drawer or
  654. 29:29someone else's pocket or in the
  655. 29:31recycling center?
  656. 29:34Good.
  657. 29:35Good. I think we are yellow.
  658. 29:38Someone's pocket.
  659. 29:41Cool.
  660. 29:42We slightly
  661. 29:44Make sure that we we answer all the
  662. 29:46questions before the water level
  663. 29:48hits the ceiling, right? And then it's
  664. 29:49going to You can see some kind of
  665. 29:52theater chairs flowing and bashing into
  666. 29:54me probably.
  667. 29:56When you prepare food at home, how do
  668. 29:59you dispose food waste?
  669. 30:05Separate organic bin. That's me.
  670. 30:09I'm just obsessed with it.
  671. 30:11All right. I think we are I can I think
  672. 30:14I can say red. Separate organic bin.
  673. 30:16Yay! Woo!
  674. 30:23Let's go quickly. You want to fly to the
  675. 30:25Arctic. Go before it's too late
  676. 30:29or stay home for the future's sake. It's
  677. 30:31a trick question.
  678. 30:37Well
  679. 30:40Mhm.
  680. 30:42difficult. It's meant to be sparring
  681. 30:44discussions, right? We need to start
  682. 30:46talking about these tricky questions.
  683. 30:49I think I'm going.
  684. 31:01Your friend is not having a child for
  685. 31:03the planet.
  686. 31:04What would you say to them?
  687. 31:06Great. Then you can adopt children then.
  688. 31:10Or
  689. 31:11great activism. You can spend all your
  690. 31:13time in advocating acting.
  691. 31:16What do you say?
  692. 31:24I think we are on red.
  693. 31:27The The thing is there's no shaming in
  694. 31:30people who are acting or not acting.
  695. 31:33There's no blaming or shaming. So both
  696. 31:36choices in the last question were
  697. 31:38completely same result.
  698. 31:42So we are doing okay. I'm still I think
  699. 31:44if I jump then I can survive. How are
  700. 31:47you contributing to Design Indaba going
  701. 31:50carbon neutral?
  702. 31:52Are you going to be virtual participant
  703. 31:54from next year?
  704. 31:56Or you coming and still eat vegan?
  705. 32:01Yeah.
  706. 32:03There's something special about this
  707. 32:05event.
  708. 32:08Yeah.
  709. 32:14So the last question.
  710. 32:15You were asked to reduce your carbon
  711. 32:17footprint. Where do you start?
  712. 32:20Easy. Organic everything, right? Or
  713. 32:24no idea. We need to research first.
  714. 32:32We are on yellow. No idea. We need to
  715. 32:35research first.
  716. 32:38And the result is
  717. 32:41Correct.
  718. 32:43Yeah.
  719. 32:51All right.
  720. 32:54Cool.
  721. 32:56Thank you again the amazing performance,
  722. 32:58amazing kind of camera movement and
  723. 33:01swiping. Thanks again.
  724. 33:07And if any of you
  725. 33:10were wondering
  726. 33:11about where these parts are going, these
  727. 33:15puddles are going.
  728. 33:17Design Indaba team made did amazing job.
  729. 33:19So, they're going to be donated to the
  730. 33:21charity, to the local charity and then
  731. 33:22the plan is that they're going to build
  732. 33:24and design a cladding in a primary
  733. 33:27school
  734. 33:28in Cape Town. A huge applause to Design
  735. 33:32Indaba team.
  736. 33:44A final note.
  737. 33:46What I've shown you today is what we can
  738. 33:49do beyond the creating understandable
  739. 33:51data or perhaps understanding vision and
  740. 33:54perhaps eloquence, too.
  741. 33:56And how we can unlock human capabilities
  742. 33:59by transforming data and vision into
  743. 34:01more accessible,
  744. 34:03relatable, and actionable experiences
  745. 34:06through the power of design
  746. 34:08and the power of
  747. 34:10events like this.
  748. 34:13Some of
  749. 34:14the things that we experimented here, um
  750. 34:17we introduced here, are listed here.
  751. 34:20All of them are stemming from our innate
  752. 34:22ability
  753. 34:23to imagine something alternative
  754. 34:26and make connections between distant
  755. 34:28observations.
  756. 34:31Data is a form of externalized
  757. 34:33knowledge.
  758. 34:35To make it really work with humans,
  759. 34:37we designers need to embrace
  760. 34:40and experiment how data can truly inform
  761. 34:44and empower actions.
  762. 34:47We will work further on data
  763. 34:49humanization projects and I hope that
  764. 34:51many of you will join us in this
  765. 34:54exciting experiment.
  766. 34:56Thank you for listening.

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