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The first 20 hours -- how to learn anything | Josh Kaufman | TEDxCSU — Transcript

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  1. 0:00Transcriber: Gustavo Rocha Reviewer: Marssi Draw
  2. 0:09Hi everyone.
  3. 0:11Two year ago, my life changed forever.
  4. 0:16My wife Kelsey and I
  5. 0:19welcomed our daughter Lela into the world.
  6. 0:23Now, becoming a parent is an amazing experience.
  7. 0:27Your whole world changes over night.
  8. 0:30And all of your priorities change immediately.
  9. 0:33So fast that it makes it really difficult to process sometimes.
  10. 0:39Now, you also have to learn a tremendous amount about being a parent
  11. 0:43like, for example, how to dress your child.
  12. 0:46(Laughter)
  13. 0:47This was new to me.
  14. 0:50This is an actual outfit, I thought this was a good idea.
  15. 0:53And even Lela knows that it's not a good idea. (Laughter)
  16. 0:59So there is so much to learn and so much craziness all at once.
  17. 1:04And to add to the craziness, Kelsey and I both work from home,
  18. 1:08we're entrepreneurs, we run our own businesses.
  19. 1:11So, Kelsey develops courses online for yoga teachers.
  20. 1:16I'm an author.
  21. 1:18And so, I'm working from home, Kelsey's working from home.
  22. 1:20We have an infant and we're trying to make sure
  23. 1:23that everything gets done that needs done.
  24. 1:26And life is really, really busy.
  25. 1:32And a couple of weeks into this amazing experience,
  26. 1:36when the sleep deprivation really kicked in,
  27. 1:40like around week eight,
  28. 1:42I had this thought, and it was the same thought
  29. 1:45that parents across the ages, internationally,
  30. 1:49everybody has had this thought, which is:
  31. 1:52I am never going to have free time ever again.
  32. 1:58(Laughter)
  33. 1:59Somebody said it's true.
  34. 2:02It's not exactly true,
  35. 2:05but it feels really, really true in that moment.
  36. 2:09And this was really disconcerning to me,
  37. 2:12because one of the things that I enjoy
  38. 2:15more than anything else is learning new things.
  39. 2:19Getting curious about something and diving in
  40. 2:22and fiddling around and learning through trial and error.
  41. 2:25And eventually becoming pretty good at something.
  42. 2:28And without this free time,
  43. 2:32I didn't know how I was ever going to do that ever again.
  44. 2:36And so, I'm a big geek,
  45. 2:38I want to keep learning things, I want to keep growing.
  46. 2:42And so what I've decided to do was,
  47. 2:45go to the library, and go to the bookstore,
  48. 2:47and look at what research says about
  49. 2:49how we learn and how we learn quickly.
  50. 2:53And I read a bunch of books, I read a bunch of websites.
  51. 2:56And tried to answer this question,
  52. 2:59how long does it take to acquire a new skill?
  53. 3:03You know what I found?
  54. 3:0510,000 hours!
  55. 3:09Anybody ever heard this?
  56. 3:11It takes 10,000 hours. If you want to learn something new,
  57. 3:14if you want to be good at it,
  58. 3:15it's going to take 10,000 hours to get there.
  59. 3:17And I read this in book after book, in website after website.
  60. 3:21And my mental experience of reading all of this stuff was like:
  61. 3:28No!!
  62. 3:30I don't have time! I don't have 10,000 hours.
  63. 3:34I am never going to be able to learn anything new.
  64. 3:39Ever again. (Laughter)
  65. 3:42But that's not true.
  66. 3:43So, 10,000 hours, just to give you a rough order of magnitude,
  67. 3:4610,000 hours is a full-time job for five years.
  68. 3:52That's a long time.
  69. 3:54And we've all had the experience of learning something new,
  70. 3:56and it didn't take us anywhere close to that amount of time, right?
  71. 4:00So, what's up? There's something kinda funky going on here.
  72. 4:03What the research says and what we expect, and have experiences,
  73. 4:07they don't match up.
  74. 4:09And what I found, here's the wrinkle:
  75. 4:12The 10,000 hour rule came out of studies of expert-level performance.
  76. 4:19There's a professor at Florida State University,
  77. 4:22his name is K. Anders Ericsson.
  78. 4:24He is the originator of the 10,00 hour rule.
  79. 4:26And where that came from is, he studied professional athletes,
  80. 4:31world class musicians, chess grand masters.
  81. 4:35All of this ultra competitive folks in ultra-high performing fields.
  82. 4:40And he tried to figure out how long does it take
  83. 4:43to get to the top of those kinds of fields.
  84. 4:46And what he found is, the more deliberate practice,
  85. 4:49the more time that those individuals spend
  86. 4:52practicing the elements of whatever it is that they do,
  87. 4:55the more time you spend, the better you get.
  88. 4:57And the folks at the tippy top of their fields
  89. 5:00put in around 10,000 hours of practice.
  90. 5:05Now, we were talking about the game of telephone a little bit earlier.
  91. 5:09Here's what happened:
  92. 5:11an author by the name of Malcolm Gladwell
  93. 5:13wrote a book in 2007 called "Outliers: The Story of Success",
  94. 5:17and the central piece of that book was the 10,000 hour rule.
  95. 5:21Practice a lot, practice well, and you will do extremely well,
  96. 5:25you will reach the top of your field.
  97. 5:27So, the message,
  98. 5:29what Dr. Ericsson was actually saying is,
  99. 5:32it takes 10,000 hours to get at the top of an ultra competitive field
  100. 5:37in a very narrow subject, that's what that means.
  101. 5:41But here's what happened: ever since Outliers came out,
  102. 5:45immediately came out, reached the top of best seller lists,
  103. 5:47stayed there for three solid months.
  104. 5:50All of a sudden the 10,000 hour rule was everywhere.
  105. 5:54And a society-wide game of telephone started to be played.
  106. 6:00So this message, it takes 10,000 hours to reach the top of an ultra competitive field,
  107. 6:04became, it takes 10,000 hours to become an expert at something,
  108. 6:09which became,
  109. 6:11it takes 10,000 hours to become good at something,
  110. 6:15which became,
  111. 6:17it takes 10,000 hours to learn something.
  112. 6:21But that last statement, it takes 10,000 hours to learn something,
  113. 6:25is not true. It's not true.
  114. 6:28So, what the research actually says --
  115. 6:33I spent a lot of time here at the CSU library
  116. 6:36in the cognitive psychology stacks 'cause I'm a geek.
  117. 6:39And when you actually look at the studies of skill acquisition,
  118. 6:44you see over and over a graph like this.
  119. 6:48Now, researchers, whether they're studying a motor skill,
  120. 6:51something you do physically or a mental skill,
  121. 6:54they like to study things that they can time.
  122. 6:57'Cause you can quantify that, right?
  123. 6:59So, they'll give research participants a little task,
  124. 7:02something that requires physical arrangement,
  125. 7:04or something that requires learning a little mental trick,
  126. 7:08and they'll time how long a participant takes to complete the skill.
  127. 7:13And here's what this graph says, when you start --
  128. 7:16so when researchers gave participants a task, it took them a really long time,
  129. 7:20'cause it was new and they were horrible.
  130. 7:23With a little bit of practice, they get better and better and better.
  131. 7:26And that early part of practice is really, really efficient.
  132. 7:30People get good at things with just a little bit of practice.
  133. 7:36Now, what's interesting to note is that,
  134. 7:39for skills that we want to learn for ourselves,
  135. 7:42we don't care so much about time, right?
  136. 7:45We just care about how good we are, whatever good happens to mean.
  137. 7:49So if we relabel performance time to how good you are,
  138. 7:54the graph flips, and you get his famous and widely known,
  139. 7:59this is the learning curve.
  140. 8:01And the story of the learning curve is when you start,
  141. 8:03you're grossly incompetent and you know it, right?
  142. 8:06(Laughter)
  143. 8:08With a little bit of practice, you get really good, really quick.
  144. 8:12So that early level of improvement is really fast.
  145. 8:15And then at a certain point you reach a plateau,
  146. 8:18and the subsequent games become much harder to get,
  147. 8:21they take more time to get.
  148. 8:24Now, my question is, I want that, right?
  149. 8:28How long does it take from starting something
  150. 8:31and being grossly incompetent and knowing it
  151. 8:35to being reasonably good?
  152. 8:37In hopefully, as short a period of time as possible.
  153. 8:42So, how long does that take?
  154. 8:44Here's what my research says: 20 hours.
  155. 8:49That's it. You can go from knowing nothing
  156. 8:53about any skill that you can think of.
  157. 8:55Want to learn a language? Want to learn how to draw?
  158. 8:59Want to learn how to juggle flaming chainsaws?
  159. 9:02(Laughter)
  160. 9:03If you put 20 hours of focused deliberate practice into that thing,
  161. 9:08you will be astounded.
  162. 9:10Astounded at how good you are.
  163. 9:1420 hours is doable,
  164. 9:15that's about 45 minutes a day for about a month.
  165. 9:19Even skipping a couple days, here and there.
  166. 9:2220 hours isn't that hard to accumulate.
  167. 9:25Now, there's a method to doing this.
  168. 9:28Because it's not like you can just start fiddling around for about 20 hours
  169. 9:31and expect these massive improvements.
  170. 9:33There's a way to practice intelligently.
  171. 9:35There's a way to practice efficiently,
  172. 9:38that will make sure that you invest those 20 hours
  173. 9:41in the most effective way that you possibly can.
  174. 9:43And here's the method, it applies to anything:
  175. 9:47The first is to deconstruct the skill.
  176. 9:51Decide exactly what you want to be able to do when you're done,
  177. 9:56and then look into the skill and break it down into smaller pieces.
  178. 10:02Most of the things that we think of as skills
  179. 10:06are actually big bundles of skills that require all sorts of different things.
  180. 10:10The more you can break apart the skill,
  181. 10:14the more you're able to decide,
  182. 10:16what are the parts of this skill that would actually help me
  183. 10:18get to what I want?
  184. 10:21And then you can practice those first.
  185. 10:23And if you practice the most important things first,
  186. 10:25you'll be able to improve your performance
  187. 10:28in the least amount of time possible.
  188. 10:31The second is, learn enough to self correct.
  189. 10:34So, get three to five resources about what it is you're trying to learn.
  190. 10:38Could be book, could be DVDs, could be courses, could be anything.
  191. 10:43But don't use those as a way to procrastinate on practice.
  192. 10:48I know I do this, right?
  193. 10:50Get like 20 books about the topic, like,
  194. 10:52"I'm going to start learning how to program a computer
  195. 10:55when I complete these 20 books".
  196. 10:57No. That's procrastination.
  197. 11:00What you want to do is learn just enough
  198. 11:04that you can actually practice
  199. 11:05and self correct or self edit as you practice.
  200. 11:10So the learning becomes a way of getting better
  201. 11:13at noticing when you're making a mistake
  202. 11:16and then doing something a little different.
  203. 11:19The third is to remove barriers to practice.
  204. 11:24Distractions, television, internet.
  205. 11:26All of these things that get in the way
  206. 11:29of you actually sitting down and doing the work.
  207. 11:33And the more you're able to use just a little bit of willpower
  208. 11:36to remove the distractions that are keeping you from practicing,
  209. 11:39the more likely you are to actually sit down and practice, right?
  210. 11:46And the fourth is to practice for at least 20 hours.
  211. 11:51Now, most skills have what I call a frustration barrier.
  212. 11:54You know, the grossly-incompetent- and-knowing-it part?
  213. 11:58That's really, really frustrating. We don't like to feel stupid.
  214. 12:02And feeling stupid is a barrier to us actually sitting down and doing the work.
  215. 12:07So, by pre-committing to practicing whatever it is that you want to do
  216. 12:11for at least 20 hours,
  217. 12:14you will be able to overcome that initial frustration barrier
  218. 12:18and stick with the practice long enough to actually reap the rewards.
  219. 12:23That's it! It's not rocket science.
  220. 12:25Four very simple steps that you can use to learn anything.
  221. 12:31Now, this is easy to talk about in theory,
  222. 12:35but it's more fun to talk about in practice.
  223. 12:37So one of the things that I've wanted to learn how to do for a long time
  224. 12:41is play the ukulele.
  225. 12:44Has anybody seen Jake Shimabukuro's TEDTalk
  226. 12:47where he plays the ukulele and makes it sound like --
  227. 12:50he's like a ukulele god.
  228. 12:52It's amazing.
  229. 12:54I saw it, I was like, "That is so cool!"
  230. 12:57It's such a neat instrument. I would really like to learn how to play.
  231. 13:01And so I decided that to test this theory
  232. 13:03I wanted to put 20 hours into practicing ukulele
  233. 13:07and see where it got.
  234. 13:09And so the first thing about playing the ukulele is,
  235. 13:13in order to practice, you have to have one, right?
  236. 13:17So, I got an ukulele and -- My lovely assistant?
  237. 13:21(Laughter)
  238. 13:24Thank you sir. I think I need the chord here.
  239. 13:31It's not just an ukulele, it's an electric ukulele. (Laughter)
  240. 13:35Yeah.
  241. 13:40So, the first couple hours are just like the first couple hours of anything.
  242. 13:45You have to get the tools that you are using to practice.
  243. 13:48You have to make sure they're available.
  244. 13:50My ukulele didn't come with strings attached.
  245. 13:52I had to figure out how to put those on.
  246. 13:54Like, that's kind of important, right?
  247. 13:56And learning how to tune, learning how to make sure
  248. 13:58that all of the things that need to be done
  249. 14:00in order to start practicing get done, right?
  250. 14:04Now, one of the things when I was ready to actually start practicing
  251. 14:11was I looked in online databases and songbooks for how to play songs.
  252. 14:16And they say, okay, ukuleles, you can play more than one string at a time,
  253. 14:19so you can play chords, that's cool,
  254. 14:20you are accompanying yourself, yay you. (Laughter)
  255. 14:24And when I started looking at songs,
  256. 14:28I had an ukulele chord book that had like hundreds of chords.
  257. 14:32Looking at this and "Wow, that's intimidating".
  258. 14:35But when you look at the actual songs,
  259. 14:37you see the same chords over and over, right?
  260. 14:42As it turns out, playing the ukulele is kind of like doing anything,
  261. 14:46There's a very small set of things that are really important
  262. 14:49and techniques that you'll use all the time.
  263. 14:52And in most songs you'll use four, maybe five chords,
  264. 14:58and that's it, that's the song.
  265. 15:00You don't have to know hundreds, as long as you know the four or the five.
  266. 15:04So, while I was doing my research,
  267. 15:06I found a wonderful little medley of pop songs
  268. 15:11by a band called Axis of Awesome. (Whistles)
  269. 15:16-- Somebody knows it. --
  270. 15:19And what Axis of Awesome says is that you can learn,
  271. 15:23or you can play pretty much any pop song of the past five decades,
  272. 15:27if you know four chords,
  273. 15:28and those chords are G, D, Em and C.
  274. 15:33Four chords pump out every pop song ever, right?
  275. 15:37So I thought, this is cool!
  276. 15:39I would like to play every pop song ever. (Laughter)
  277. 15:42So, that was the first song I decided to learn,
  278. 15:45and I would like to actually share it with you. Ready?
  279. 15:49(Applause) Alright.
  280. 15:51(Music)
  281. 16:03(Singing) Just a small town girl,
  282. 16:06living in a lonely world,
  283. 16:08she took the midnight train going anywhere.
  284. 16:14I heard that you settled down, (Laughter)
  285. 16:18that you found a girl,
  286. 16:21that you're married now.
  287. 16:25Every night in my dreams (Laughter)
  288. 16:27I see you, I feel you,
  289. 16:30that is how I know you go on. (Laughter)
  290. 16:36I won't hesitate no more, no more. It cannot wait, I'm yours.
  291. 16:42'Cause you were amazing, we did amazing things.
  292. 16:47If I could, then I would, I'd go wherever you will --
  293. 16:52Can you feel the love tonight. (Laughter)
  294. 16:58I can't live with or without you.
  295. 17:03When I find myself --
  296. 17:05When I find myself in times of trouble, mother Mary comes to me,
  297. 17:07Sometimes I feel like I don't have partner. No woman, no cry.
  298. 17:11Yeah mama, this surely is a dream.
  299. 17:13I come from a land down under. (Laughter)
  300. 17:15Once a jolly swagman camped by a billabong.
  301. 17:18Hey, I just met you, and this is crazy, (Laughter)
  302. 17:22but here's my number, so call me
  303. 17:26Hey sexy lady, op, op, op, op, oppan gangnam style. (Laughter)
  304. 17:30It's time to say goodbye.
  305. 17:35Closing time, every new beginning comes from some other beginning's end.
  306. 17:45(Singing and music ends) (Applause)
  307. 17:56Thank you, thank you.
  308. 18:03I love that song. (Laughter)
  309. 18:07And I have a secret to share with you.
  310. 18:10So, by playing that song for you,
  311. 18:14I just hit my twentieth hour of practicing the ukulele.
  312. 18:19(Applause) Thank you.
  313. 18:24And so it's amazing, pretty much anything that you can think of,
  314. 18:28what do you want to do.
  315. 18:30The major barrier to learn something new is not intellectual,
  316. 18:35it's not the process of you learning a bunch of little tips or tricks or things.
  317. 18:41The major barrier's emotional. We're scared.
  318. 18:44Feeling stupid doesn't feel good,
  319. 18:47in the beginning of learning anything new
  320. 18:49you feel really stupid.
  321. 18:51So the major barrier's not intellectual, it's emotional.
  322. 18:55But put 20 hours into anything.
  323. 18:58It doesn't matter. What do you want to learn?
  324. 19:01Do you want to learn a language? Want to learn how to cook?
  325. 19:04Want to learn how to draw?
  326. 19:07What turns you on? What lights you up?
  327. 19:10Go out and do that thing. It only takes 20 hours.
  328. 19:14Have fun.
  329. 19:16(Applause)

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