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The "Fake" Reason Luxury Watches Are Getting Cheaper — Transcript

by Adrian Barker · 1,801 words · 269 segments · language en · Watch on YouTube

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  1. 0:00For the past 5 years, luxury watch
  2. 0:02brands have been pricing you and I out
  3. 0:04of the market. Suddenly, we're seeing
  4. 0:06this massive shift because a market is
  5. 0:09now struggling. Brands are now starting
  6. 0:11to quietly reduce their pricing, but
  7. 0:14they're hiding it in a really smart way.
  8. 0:17For example, take the new Panory Lumia
  9. 0:1942. It's significantly cheaper than
  10. 0:22previous models. Tannery claims this is
  11. 0:24simply because they've removed the
  12. 0:26sandwich dial. But let's be honest, a
  13. 0:28change in dial manufacturing doesn't
  14. 0:31equate to a price difference of
  15. 0:33thousands of dollars. So what I think is
  16. 0:35happening right now is that we're seeing
  17. 0:36an industry reset. We're actually seeing
  18. 0:38brands right now trying to reverse what
  19. 0:41they've been spending the past 3, four,
  20. 0:435 years doing, increasing their prices
  21. 0:46drastically. Brands are desperately
  22. 0:48trying desperately. Sounds a bit
  23. 0:49dramatic. They're trying to win back the
  24. 0:51buyers that they alienated by
  25. 0:53drastically increasing their prices.
  26. 0:55They're doing this by building budget
  27. 0:57versions of their iconic watches. And
  28. 1:00they're using fake excuses to protect
  29. 1:01their prestige. But what Panor and Omega
  30. 1:04are doing right now is just a band-aid.
  31. 1:05It's just a plaster because what Zenith
  32. 1:08have announced this week shows us how
  33. 1:10bad the luxury watch industry has
  34. 1:11become. I'll show you those numbers in a
  35. 1:13minute and and explain what Zenith have
  36. 1:14actually done and how I think that
  37. 1:16they're going in the wrong direction.
  38. 1:17But first, let's look at how brands are
  39. 1:19using a Trojan horse to secretly lower
  40. 1:22their prices. Now, I want to be clear,
  41. 1:24I'm all for this. Let's talk about
  42. 1:26Panerai and their 42mm Luminor. The
  43. 1:29prices of this new range range from
  44. 1:32$6,700 for the steel versions. And if
  45. 1:34you're going to go for DLC versions,
  46. 1:36that's around $7,700.
  47. 1:38Now, compared to the previous versions
  48. 1:40of 44 mm versions of these watches,
  49. 1:43that's a saving of a good couple of,000.
  50. 1:47That's a serious chunk of cash. So, how
  51. 1:49does a luxury brand like Paroy justify a
  52. 1:53price reduction without really admitting
  53. 1:56that the prices were bloated in the
  54. 1:58first place? They simply strip away one
  55. 2:01minor but beloved feature, but it
  56. 2:03doesn't make it a lesser quality watch,
  57. 2:06just a slightly different watch while
  58. 2:09still protecting the icons that they
  59. 2:11have in their catalog. In Panoro's case,
  60. 2:13they simply stripped away the sandwich
  61. 2:15dial that they're known for doing within
  62. 2:17the Luminor range and they've just used
  63. 2:19just a normal flat dial with printed
  64. 2:22markers on it. Now, moving forward, I
  65. 2:24think we're going to see a lot more of
  66. 2:25this happening within the watch industry
  67. 2:27and my background's music and and you
  68. 2:30saw it within the guitar world. Look at
  69. 2:32Gibson for example. You got the standard
  70. 2:34Lespool. You can go up the range to a
  71. 2:36custom Lespool or you can go down the
  72. 2:38range to a studio Lespool. Now, it's
  73. 2:40marketed as being the the same quality
  74. 2:43of product. It's just had
  75. 2:44specifications. It's had the fanciness
  76. 2:46stripped away. And this is exactly what
  77. 2:48I think the watch industry are going to
  78. 2:49be doing. Want to protect their current
  79. 2:51range, but at the same time getting
  80. 2:53back, winning back the customers that
  81. 2:56they've priced out. Specifications that
  82. 2:58I think brands will change will simply
  83. 3:00be removing bracelets and and putting
  84. 3:02watches on straps, which again, we've
  85. 3:03already started to see. I can imagine
  86. 3:05brands using solid casebacks as opposed
  87. 3:07to display casebacks and then reducing
  88. 3:09the finishing of the movement which
  89. 3:11doesn't matter because it's hidden away.
  90. 3:13I think the majority of brands will will
  91. 3:14simply do things like uh using a more in
  92. 3:17Paner's case I think brands will do what
  93. 3:19Paner have done and use a more simple
  94. 3:21manufacturing process for the dial
  95. 3:23rather than having surrounds for loom
  96. 3:25markers it will just be loom painted on
  97. 3:27the dial or rather having stepped dials
  98. 3:29or applied indices this stuff will start
  99. 3:31to be printed instead. This allows them
  100. 3:33to lower the entry point and capture the
  101. 3:35struggling middle market while giving a
  102. 3:38a plausible excuse for the reduce in
  103. 3:41price rather than them just simply
  104. 3:43saying, "Oh, we've now reduced the
  105. 3:45price." There's a reason. However much
  106. 3:47smoker mirrors is used for the actual
  107. 3:49reason. Now, this doesn't need to make
  108. 3:51sense. The excuses don't need to make
  109. 3:52sense. And and I don't care if they do
  110. 3:54or they don't. The outcome is still a
  111. 3:57positive outcome for us. I just want
  112. 3:59them to reduce their prices. I don't
  113. 4:01care what story they tell to get to that
  114. 4:02reduced price. I just want to reduce the
  115. 4:05prices. Now, it's not just Panory that's
  116. 4:07doing this activity. We've seen Omega do
  117. 4:10this and I did a video talking about
  118. 4:11Omega's new release of their Speed
  119. 4:13Master reduced range. This is the first
  120. 4:15time that Omega have used the reduced
  121. 4:17range, which has obviously been cheaper
  122. 4:19than the professional range. Naturally,
  123. 4:21this is the first time that they've done
  124. 4:23a true alternative to the Speed Master
  125. 4:26Professional, the Moon Watch. And it's
  126. 4:28interesting that this has been within
  127. 4:30the Swatch group. The Swatch Group have
  128. 4:32multiple brands at different places
  129. 4:34within the market. So if they needed to
  130. 4:36make a more affordable version of the
  131. 4:37Speed Master, they could have quite
  132. 4:39easily used Line to do that. So it's
  133. 4:41interesting that they've decided to do
  134. 4:42this within Omega themselves. Now the
  135. 4:45specification [laughter] difference
  136. 4:46between the Speed Master Reduce that
  137. 4:48looks like Speed Master Professional and
  138. 4:50the actual Speed Master Professional.
  139. 4:51The specification difference is massive.
  140. 4:53But the biggest difference between the
  141. 4:54two is the pricing. The Speed Master
  142. 4:57Professional is around $7,800
  143. 5:00whereas the Speed Master Reduced around
  144. 5:02$6,500.
  145. 5:03Now Omega doing a similar thing to to
  146. 5:05Panorai. They're just doing it in a
  147. 5:07different way, a different strategy. At
  148. 5:08least they're trying to do something to
  149. 5:10keep you as a customer. I feel like
  150. 5:12that's a better idea than what Zenith
  151. 5:14have done. The watch market in 2026 has
  152. 5:16gone through massive correction. the
  153. 5:18middle of the market, the brand selling
  154. 5:20between $5,000 to $10,000 watches. That
  155. 5:23that range has been squished massively
  156. 5:26simply because the middle classes are
  157. 5:28feeling it's very much a first world
  158. 5:30problem, but simply the middle classes
  159. 5:32are really feeling a financial pinch at
  160. 5:34the moment. The ultimate casualty of
  161. 5:36that has been Zenith and this month
  162. 5:38they've just announced that they're
  163. 5:40doing massive restructuring of their
  164. 5:42company, cutting up to 200 jobs. They've
  165. 5:44also announced that they're not going to
  166. 5:45be making watches for the next 2 years.
  167. 5:48Makes you question why. Well, their
  168. 5:50strategy is to leave this middle market
  169. 5:53and go for the high-end market. They're
  170. 5:55going to come back as a horology brand.
  171. 5:58Now, that tells me that the bosses at
  172. 6:00Zenith have realized that they they
  173. 6:02can't compete with the bloodbath that is
  174. 6:04the more affordable end of the watch
  175. 6:06market. They know they can't survive in
  176. 6:08the middle end. So, they're instead
  177. 6:11going to go for the top end. On one
  178. 6:13hand, it makes sense because that's
  179. 6:14where the money is. Ultimately, right
  180. 6:16now, you either need to be selling more
  181. 6:18accessible, affordable products to a lot
  182. 6:21of people or you need to be selling a
  183. 6:23handful of products to the proper rich.
  184. 6:26That middle point, that's where the
  185. 6:28struggle is at the moment. Zenith,
  186. 6:30they're going after the 1%. Now, I
  187. 6:32actually think Zenith have got this
  188. 6:34completely wrong. They're an iconic
  189. 6:35brand. They're a seriously important
  190. 6:37brand within the watch world, but that's
  191. 6:39only kind of known by watch geeks like
  192. 6:42you and I. Outside of that, I don't
  193. 6:45think people know what Zenith is, let
  194. 6:47alone why they're important. I feel like
  195. 6:49Zenith should be looking further down
  196. 6:51the market at the more accessible end of
  197. 6:52the market and creating something highly
  198. 6:55commercial and highly desirable. They
  199. 6:57have the watch designs behind them.
  200. 6:59They've got the watch legacy behind
  201. 7:01them. They've got the stories to tell.
  202. 7:03They just need to double down on that if
  203. 7:05they were to compete or or go down to
  204. 7:08the long gene tuda level just below
  205. 7:10Omega. I feel like they could kill it.
  206. 7:13Especially with those brands focusing on
  207. 7:15more vintage inspired models. That's
  208. 7:18what Zenith does. They've got the
  209. 7:19heritage. They've got the watch making
  210. 7:21behind them. They should just create
  211. 7:23more affordable versions. Take a leaf
  212. 7:25out of what Panerai are doing. They can
  213. 7:27actually do something similar to Chopar
  214. 7:28where you've got Chopar and then LU. You
  215. 7:30got Chopart as the normal brand and then
  216. 7:32you got LUC as the fancy stuff. You
  217. 7:35could have Zenith and then you could
  218. 7:36have GFJ. And I actually thought this is
  219. 7:39what Zenith were doing back at Watches
  220. 7:41and Wonders this year when they launched
  221. 7:43their GFJ watch. GFJ are the initials of
  222. 7:46the Zenith founder George Favako. But
  223. 7:49what do I know? I I just sell watch
  224. 7:51straps over at bargainjack.com. So if
  225. 7:53you like watch straps, then go check out
  226. 7:55our watch straps at barkandjack.com. Had
  227. 7:58to get it in there somehow. So, it's
  228. 7:59quite obvious that we are in the middle
  229. 8:00of this big industry reset. This this
  230. 8:03hype bubble has absolutely burst. For
  231. 8:06ages, we've been talking about how the
  232. 8:08industry isn't the same as what it was
  233. 8:10in in co when we saw this huge spike in
  234. 8:12sales. And we've got to the point where
  235. 8:15we're actually seeing brands take action
  236. 8:18to that reduction in sales or rather
  237. 8:20it's got to the point where brands need
  238. 8:22to take action. Now, it seems like
  239. 8:24there's three options of what brands are
  240. 8:26doing. either do what Panera are doing,
  241. 8:28reduce specifications, reduce pricing,
  242. 8:31or what Omega are doing, create an
  243. 8:32alternative to the Icon and reduce
  244. 8:34pricing, or what Zenith are doing, kind
  245. 8:37of close up shop and redirect to a
  246. 8:40different portion of the market. Now,
  247. 8:42I'm all for all of these options,
  248. 8:44frankly. I I just want watch prices to
  249. 8:46come down or for products to improve. My
  250. 8:49favorite option is actually what Panera
  251. 8:51are doing. Create some excuse
  252. 8:54just to reduce prices. I think that's
  253. 8:56fantastic. Let me know what you think in
  254. 8:58the comments down below. Have you been
  255. 8:59priced out of the brands that that you
  256. 9:01previously loved or previously
  257. 9:02collected? And do you support what these
  258. 9:05brands are doing? What are your thoughts
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  269. 9:19That's it. Take care.

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