The Entire Financial System Explained: [Part 3] DOCUMENTARY — Transcript
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- 0:02How is money created? Where does it come
- 0:05from? Who benefits? And what purpose
- 0:08does it serve? Back
- 0:10>> up, you [ __ ]
- 0:12>> What is a money system? What is the
- 0:14money behind the money system?
- 0:17>> For centuries, the mechanics of the
- 0:18monetary system have remained hidden in
- 0:21the prying eyes of the populace.
- 0:24Yet its impact both on a national and
- 0:26international level is perhaps
- 0:29unsurpassed.
- 0:32For it is the monetary system that
- 0:34provides the foundations for
- 0:35international dominance and national
- 0:38control.
- 0:43Today, as these very foundations are
- 0:46being shaken by crisis, the need for
- 0:49open and honest dialogue on the future
- 0:51of the monetary system has never been
- 0:53greater.
- 0:55>> This economic crisis is like a cancer.
- 0:57If you just wait and wait thinking this
- 0:59is going to go away, just like a cancer,
- 1:02it's going to grow and it's going to be
- 1:03too late. What I would say to everybody
- 1:05is get prepared. Uh there's not a time
- 1:08right now to um wishful thinking. The
- 1:11government is going to sort things out.
- 1:12The governments don't rule the world.
- 1:14Goldman Sachs rules the world.
- 1:17>> Statistical analysis has found that
- 1:20every time an empire begins to near its
- 1:23own demise, you'll find that its
- 1:25currency will be debased.
- 1:27>> There is no guide to how this whole
- 1:29system operates. Uh to give you an
- 1:31example, a researcher at the BBC working
- 1:33on Robert Preston documentary went to
- 1:34the Bank of England and said, "Can you
- 1:36give me a, you know, a guide to how
- 1:39money is created?" and they just said
- 1:41no.
- 1:42>> This documentary will investigate and
- 1:44explain this everchanging system and the
- 1:47impact it has both on a national and
- 1:50international level.
- 1:53[Music]
- 2:27In 2010, the total UK money supply stood
- 2:30at 2.15 trillion.
- 2:332.6% of this total was physical cash,
- 2:3753.5 billion. The rest, 2.1 trillion or
- 2:4297.4% 4% of the total money supply was
- 2:45commercial bank money.
- 2:48>> The 3% of money um is created uh through
- 2:52the central bank and that money
- 2:55essentially if you created a£10 note.
- 2:58You could sell that to a bank to put
- 3:00into their ATM and the bank would have
- 3:02to repay that10 or buy it for £10.
- 3:05there'd be no interest made uh charged
- 3:08on that money but that money is then
- 3:10essentially transferred to the treasury
- 3:12and it's a it's a it's a form of
- 3:14fundraising um for the government. It's
- 3:17called scenerage.
- 3:25[Music]
- 3:27When the Bank of England creates a 10
- 3:29pound note, it costed about three or
- 3:32four pence to actually print that note
- 3:34and it sells it to the high street banks
- 3:36at face value. So for £10 and
- 3:41the profit, the difference between
- 3:43printing the note and actually selling
- 3:45it for £10 goes directly to the
- 3:48treasury. So in effect all the profit
- 3:51that we get on creating physical money
- 3:55uh banknotes goes to the treasury and it
- 3:58reduces how much taxes we have to pay.
- 4:00Um over the last 10 years that's raised
- 4:03about 18 billion pounds.
- 4:05>> In 1948
- 4:07notes and coins constituted 17% of the
- 4:10total money supply.
- 4:12>> This was one contributing factor in the
- 4:14government's ability to finance postwar
- 4:16reconstruction.
- 4:17This included the establishment of the
- 4:19NHS.
- 4:22In only 60 years, notes and coins have
- 4:24shrunk to less than 3%.
- 4:33Prior to 1844, bank notes were created
- 4:35by private banks and the government did
- 4:38not profit from their creation.
- 4:41Pre-industrialization,
- 4:44there was multiple forms of money
- 4:45coexisting. And so the kind of rise of
- 4:48kind of of government sponsored fiat
- 4:51money is a relatively recent um
- 4:54phenomenon. In the 1840s, there was no
- 4:56law to stop banks from creating their
- 4:58own bank notes. So they used to issue um
- 5:01paper notes as as kind of a a
- 5:04representative of what you had in the
- 5:06bank account. Instead of you taking your
- 5:08heavy metal coins out of the bank and
- 5:10then going and paying somebody with
- 5:12them, you could get your paper which
- 5:14said how much money you had in the bank
- 5:16and you could give that to somebody and
- 5:17they could use that to go and get the
- 5:18heavy metal coins from the bank. Now
- 5:21over time these paper notes became
- 5:24as good as money. people would use the
- 5:26paper notes instead of going and getting
- 5:27the real money from the bank. And
- 5:30obviously as soon as the banks realized
- 5:32that what they were creating had become,
- 5:35you know, the dominant type of money in
- 5:37the economy, they realized that by by
- 5:39creating more of it, they could generate
- 5:41profits. You know, they can just print
- 5:42up some new notes, lend it, and get the
- 5:45interest on top of that. And they did
- 5:47that, you know, up until the 1840s. In
- 5:49the 1840s, they pushed it just a little
- 5:51bit too far, and that caused inflation.
- 5:54and destabilize the economy. So in 1844,
- 5:58the conservative government of Robert
- 6:00Peele actually passed a law that took
- 6:03the power to create money away from the
- 6:05commercial banks um and brought it back
- 6:07to the state. So since then, the Bank of
- 6:09England has been the only
- 6:12organization authorized to to create
- 6:15paper notes.
- 6:19Since then, everything's gone digital
- 6:21and what we now use as money is the
- 6:24digital numbers that commercial banks
- 6:25can create out of nothing.
- 6:30The problem was that they did not
- 6:32include in that in that legislation
- 6:35um the deposits, the demand deposits um
- 6:38held in banks by individuals or um
- 6:42electronic forms of money, which
- 6:45essentially what those demand deposits
- 6:46are today. most of the money in
- 6:49circulation is is electronic money. Um
- 6:53and it's bank it's bank um demand
- 6:55deposits um that just that that sit in
- 6:58our in our account. So in a way the
- 7:00legislation has got needs to catch up
- 7:03with developments in in in electronic
- 7:05money uh and the way that banks actually
- 7:08operate.
- 7:10>> Money held in bank accounts are called
- 7:12demand deposits.
- 7:14This is an accounting term the banks use
- 7:16when they create credit.
- 7:18Banks follow the same process when they
- 7:20create loans.
- 7:22All money held in bank accounts is an
- 7:25accounting entry.
- 7:34The reality is now that most money is
- 7:36not paper and it's not metal coins. It's
- 7:39digital. It's just numbers in a computer
- 7:41system. You know, it's your Visa debit
- 7:43card. It's your electronic, you know,
- 7:45ATM card. Um, it's this, it's plastic,
- 7:49you know, it's numbers in a computer
- 7:50system. You move money from one computer
- 7:53system to another. It's all a big
- 7:55database. And this digital money is what
- 7:59we're now using to make payments with.
- 8:01It's what we actually use to run the
- 8:03economy. I think a lot of people in the
- 8:05UK probably think that the government or
- 8:07the central bank um is is in control of
- 8:11most most money in circulation and
- 8:13issues new money into circulation. But
- 8:16that's uh not the case. It's private
- 8:19banks that creates the vast majority of
- 8:22new money in circulation and also decide
- 8:25uh how it's allocated.
- 8:30The official terminology for this
- 8:31accounting entry is commercial bank
- 8:34money.
- 8:36When banks issue loans to the public,
- 8:38they create new commercial bank money.
- 8:41When a customer repays a loan,
- 8:44commercial bank money is destroyed. The
- 8:46banks keep the interest as profit.
- 8:50>> There's a lot of misconceptions about
- 8:52the way banks work. There was a a poll
- 8:54done by the Cobden Center where they
- 8:57asked people, you know, how how they
- 9:00thought banks actually operated. Around
- 9:0230% of the public think that when you
- 9:04put your money into the bank, it just
- 9:06stays there and it's safe. And you can
- 9:08understand why because, you know, every
- 9:10every child has a piggy bank where you
- 9:12keep putting money in and then when it's
- 9:14a rainy day, you smash it and you take
- 9:16that money out and you spend it. So, a
- 9:18lot of people keep this this idea of
- 9:20banking. you know, it's somewhere safe
- 9:22to keep your money so that it's there
- 9:23for whenever you need it. Um, another
- 9:26the other 60% of people assume that when
- 9:30you put your money in, that money is
- 9:32then being moved across to somebody who
- 9:34wants to borrow it. So, you have a
- 9:36pensioner who keeps saving money her
- 9:38entire life and then her life savings
- 9:40have been lent to some, you know, young
- 9:42people who want to buy a house. But
- 9:44actually, banks don't work like that.
- 10:05At the moment in the UK, money creation
- 10:09uh and control is is largely in the
- 10:11hands of private banks. uh about 97 to
- 10:1498% of money um that's that's created is
- 10:17is created um as bank bank debt money
- 10:21you could call it um when banks issue
- 10:23money into circulation as as loans
- 10:26essentially um this is very poorly
- 10:29understood fact
- 10:31it's not a conspiracy theory it's not a
- 10:34um it's not a crackpot theory it's the
- 10:37way the bank of England describes the
- 10:38process when banks make loans they
- 10:40create new Okay.
- 10:54A few economists will realize the way
- 10:57the money system works. But if you
- 10:58don't, if you don't realize the way that
- 11:00money works and you think that you know
- 11:03everybody saving is going to work well
- 11:04for the economy, what really happens
- 11:07once you understand the way the money
- 11:08system works is that if everybody starts
- 11:10saving uh the amount of money in the
- 11:12economy shrinks and we have a recession.
- 11:15So most economists don't have this this
- 11:17full picture. They don't understand all
- 11:19elements of the system. They rely on uh
- 11:22assumptions on you know received
- 11:25knowledge without actually going into
- 11:27the details and you know money is money
- 11:30is the center of the economy. If you
- 11:32don't understand where it comes from,
- 11:34who it creates, who creates it, and when
- 11:36it gets created, then how can you
- 11:38understand the entire economy?
- 11:46When the vast majority of money that we
- 11:48use now is not cash, but it's electronic
- 11:51money, then whoever's creating the
- 11:53electronic money is getting the proceeds
- 11:55of creating that money. And obviously
- 11:57creating electronic money is much more
- 11:58profitable than creating cash because
- 12:00you don't have any production costs at
- 12:02all. So while we've got 18 billion over
- 12:06the course of a decade in profit from
- 12:08creating cash, the banks have actually
- 12:11created 1.2 trillion pounds.
- 12:14>> Between 1998 and 2007, the UK money
- 12:17supply tripled
- 12:191.2 2 trillion pounds was created by
- 12:22banks, whilst 18 billion pounds was
- 12:25created by the Treasury.
- 12:29A lot of people think when I say this or
- 12:31when you say this or when positive money
- 12:33say this that we're all just a bunch of
- 12:34nutters. But on the 9th of March in
- 12:372009, the governor of the Federal
- 12:39Reserve, um, Ben Bernani gave the first
- 12:42ever broadcast interview, the governor
- 12:45of the central bank of the United States
- 12:47of America had ever given. And uh the
- 12:50day before that he'd bailed out AIG
- 12:53um which is a insurance company not even
- 12:56a bank actually to the tune of about $
- 12:58160 billion. So the journalist says to
- 13:00him now Mr. Bernani where did you get $
- 13:04160 billion to bail out AIG.
- 13:07>> Is that tax money that the Fed is
- 13:09spending?
- 13:09>> It's not tax money. The banks have um
- 13:12accounts with the Fed much the same way
- 13:15that you have an account in a commercial
- 13:16bank. So to lend to a bank, we simply
- 13:20use the computer to mark up the uh size
- 13:22of the account that they have with the
- 13:23Fed. So it's much more akin uh although
- 13:26not exactly the same, but it's much more
- 13:27akin to printing money than it is to
- 13:29borrowing.
- 13:32Banks create new money whenever they
- 13:35extend credit, buy existing assets, or
- 13:38make payments on their own account,
- 13:40which mostly involves expanding their
- 13:42assets.
- 13:45When a bank buys securities such as a
- 13:47corporate or government bond, it adds
- 13:50the bond to its assets and increases the
- 13:53company's bank deposits by the
- 13:54corresponding amount.
- 13:58New commercial bank money enters
- 14:00circulation when people spend the credit
- 14:02that has been granted to them by banks.
- 14:06I found that talking on the doorstep
- 14:08from August last year round to know
- 14:11August 2009 round to
- 14:14the general election or 8 n 8 n months I
- 14:17suppose knocking on doors is that when
- 14:20you try to explain how the money system
- 14:22works
- 14:24there's uh an almost inbuilt refusal of
- 14:28people to accept that such a bizarre
- 14:31situation could actually exist. No, it
- 14:34can't possibly. You know what I mean?
- 14:37You can't banks can't banks don't create
- 14:40money out of thin air. That's
- 14:41ridiculous. They can't do that. They
- 14:43lend out their depositors money. Most
- 14:45people have an idea of how money is.
- 14:47They're used to their own way of
- 14:49handling money. Uh and they try and
- 14:52implement their own idea of how how
- 14:55their small household economy works into
- 14:59the national economy. And of course, it
- 15:00just doesn't work out. It just doesn't
- 15:02work out at all.
- 15:03By 2008, the outstanding loan portfolio
- 15:06of bank created credit, also known as
- 15:09commercial bank money, stood at over2
- 15:12trillion.
- 15:14As recently as 1982, the ratio of notes
- 15:17and coins to bank deposits was 1 to 12.
- 15:21By 2010, the ratio had risen to 1 to 37.
- 15:27That is for every pound of treasury
- 15:29created money there was £37 of bank
- 15:32created money.
- 15:35In the 10 years prior to the 2007 crisis
- 15:39the UK commercial bank money supply
- 15:41expanded by between 7 to 10% every year.
- 15:45A growth rate of 7% is the equivalent of
- 15:48doubling the money supply every 10
- 15:50years.
- 15:52>> The amount of money they're creating out
- 15:54of nothing is just incredible. 1.2 2
- 15:56trillion in the last 10 years. Um and
- 15:59there's that money is being distributed
- 16:01according to the priorities of the
- 16:04banking sector, you know, not the
- 16:05priorities of society.
- 16:09Bank sector itself grew from 1980 $2.5
- 16:14trillion
- 16:16to $40 trillion by assets. In 1980,
- 16:20global bank assets were worth 20 times
- 16:22the then global economy. By 2006, they
- 16:26were worth 75 times according to the UN.
- 16:30>> As the following chart shows, total bank
- 16:33assets of UK banks as a percentage of
- 16:36GDP remain relatively stable at 50 to
- 16:3960% up to the end of the 1960s.
- 16:44After that, they shot up dramatically.
- 16:46>> And the real money in in the world uh to
- 16:49be made today is not by producing
- 16:50anything at all. It's simply by forms of
- 16:53speculating. basically making money from
- 16:55money. Uh that's the most profitable and
- 16:57and by far in a way um the the biggest
- 17:01form of of of activity of economic
- 17:04activity that exists in the world today.
- 17:07>> Today banks are no longer restricted by
- 17:10how much they can lend and as such how
- 17:13much new credit they can create out of
- 17:15nothing.
- 17:17They are restricted solely by their own
- 17:19willingness to lend.
- 17:24The issue with allowing banks to create
- 17:26money uh there's two main issues.
- 17:27Firstly, the fact that they create this
- 17:29money when they make loans. So it
- 17:32guarantees that you know we have to
- 17:34borrow all our money for the economy
- 17:36from the banks.
- 17:38>> As such to have a healthy growing
- 17:40economy the government needs to put in
- 17:42place strategies to allow for
- 17:44everinccreasing debt.
- 17:47The only way the government can create
- 17:49additional purchasing power is by
- 17:51getting itself and us into more depth.
- 17:55The second big issue with allowing banks
- 17:58to create money is that they have the
- 18:01incentive to always create more. You
- 18:03know, they create more money if they
- 18:04issue a loan. They get the bonuses and
- 18:06the commissions and the incentives to
- 18:08create, you know, to lend as much as
- 18:09possible. You have to develop a sales
- 18:11culture. What did they do? They
- 18:14recruited an amazing guy, lovely guy,
- 18:16Andy Hornby, who came from Asda to turn
- 18:19the bank into a supermarket retailing
- 18:22operation.
- 18:24>> If you trust bankers to control the
- 18:26money supply, the money supply will just
- 18:28grow and grow and grow, as will the
- 18:30level of debt until the point where it
- 18:32crashes. You when some people can't
- 18:34repay the debt, and then they'll stop
- 18:36lending.
- 18:39You hear politicians and journalists
- 18:40say, you know, we've we've been living
- 18:42beyond our means. we've become dependent
- 18:43on debt. We need to reign in our
- 18:46spending and live within our means. Um
- 18:49it's not possible in the current system.
- 18:51You know, the reason why everybody's in
- 18:54debt now is not because they've been
- 18:55recklessly borrowing. Um we haven't
- 18:58borrowed all this money from, you know,
- 18:59an army of pensioners who've been saving
- 19:01up their whole whole lives. Money in the
- 19:04current system is debt. You know, it's
- 19:05created when banks make loans. So the
- 19:08only way in the current system that we
- 19:10can have any money in the economy, you
- 19:12know, the only way we can have money for
- 19:13businesses to trade is if we've borrowed
- 19:15it all from the banks.
- 19:20And it's the very opposite of what the
- 19:22Tory part is arguing today, which is
- 19:25that you have to create savings before
- 19:27you can help the National Health
- 19:28Service. And it's because economists
- 19:31have completely confused those things
- 19:33both in monetary policy terms, but also
- 19:36in economic thinking. And because most
- 19:38people still harbor the the oldfashioned
- 19:41view that you need savings before you
- 19:43can invest that we have the mess that
- 19:46we're in today. Now one of the reasons
- 19:48why we find it difficult to understand
- 19:52the banking system and credit creation
- 19:53is that we leave school without any
- 19:56money and we go and get a job working as
- 19:59an apprentice to a plumber. We work
- 20:01really hard all month and at the end of
- 20:03the month somebody puts money in our
- 20:05bank. And so for us, the logic is you
- 20:07work and then you get money, you get
- 20:10savings. In reality, you would never
- 20:12have got that job if credit hadn't been
- 20:15created in the first instance. It's a
- 20:17really important
- 20:20um conceptual misunderstanding.
- 20:24And it isn't something that the public
- 20:25just are guilty of. Economists don't
- 20:28understand this stuff.
- 20:28>> Money doesn't come out of economic
- 20:30activity. A lot of people I've come
- 20:33across kind of assume that if you've got
- 20:35people if you got businesses and you got
- 20:37people doing things that somehow money
- 20:39somehow emerges out of the process of
- 20:42people doing things doing economic
- 20:44making things and growing things and
- 20:46selling things and producing things that
- 20:48somehow money just emerges. It's not
- 20:51it's like oil in a car. You have to put
- 20:52it in. When I see David Cameron talking
- 20:55about how um we need an economy not
- 20:58based on debt, but we need an economy
- 21:00based on savings, he just doesn't know
- 21:03what he's saying. It's ridiculous. It's
- 21:04absolutely absurd. And it shows his
- 21:07complete lack of understanding of how
- 21:09our money system actually works. What
- 21:11he's essentially saying is that we need
- 21:14an economy with no money. If everyone
- 21:17was saving, we'd have mass disappearing
- 21:20of money, which is essentially what a
- 21:22bank write off is essentially is people
- 21:24defaulting on their debt, which which
- 21:26essentially is just money disappearing.
- 21:29But if people weren't taking on the
- 21:30debt, then it's just it's just such a
- 21:33joke. It's such a amateur understanding
- 21:36of how our economy works and how the
- 21:38monetary system works and how money is
- 21:40actually created. So, um I really do get
- 21:43a laugh out of watching what people are
- 21:45actually saying and they're all just
- 21:46regurgitating what they've learned off
- 21:48each other and you just hear the same
- 21:49things and it just makes me it it really
- 21:53gets on my nerves when I hear people
- 21:55talking about um yeah, we need more
- 21:57regulations. We need to regulate the way
- 22:00banks are actually and the boner. It's
- 22:02all just one big smoke screen and
- 22:04working on all the symptoms of a greater
- 22:07disease which is really you need to look
- 22:09at the the money system the way money is
- 22:11created and uh if we don't want any debt
- 22:14then we're essentially saying we don't
- 22:16want any money and we want a moneyless
- 22:17economy with the exception of the 3%
- 22:19that's created debtree.
- 22:22You know it's a paradox under the
- 22:23current system. If you if we as the
- 22:26public go into further debt then that's
- 22:28going to put more money into the economy
- 22:29and we're going to have a boom. When you
- 22:31have a boom, it's easier to borrow. So,
- 22:33people get into even more debt. And
- 22:35eventually, you know, this this cycle
- 22:37continues. It gets easier and easier to
- 22:38get into debt until some people get over
- 22:41in debt and then, you know, they
- 22:43default. They can't repay their
- 22:45mortgage. That's what happened in, you
- 22:47know, it happened first in subprime
- 22:48America. Um, and then, you know, that
- 22:51just brings to a wave of defaults which
- 22:53will ripple across the entire economy.
- 22:56The banks go in solvent, then we're into
- 22:58a financial crisis. Um and then the
- 23:01banks stopped lending and you know the
- 23:03they were excessively lending in the
- 23:05boom and then they stop lending and then
- 23:08that c makes the recession even worse.
- 23:10People lose their jobs and then they
- 23:12become even more dependent on debt just
- 23:14to survive basically. You know we have a
- 23:17a system where we have to borrow in
- 23:19order to have an economy. We have to be
- 23:21in debt to the banks and that that
- 23:24guarantees you know massive profit for
- 23:26the banks.
- 23:28This is the boom bust cycle.
- 23:32[Music]
- 23:33>> And I have said before, Mr. Deputy
- 23:35Speaker, no return to boom and bust.
- 23:42[Music]
- 23:44>> Net bank lending must forever increase.
- 23:49>> We're paying interest on every single
- 23:51pound. Even if even if you think the
- 23:52money belongs to you, somebody somewhere
- 23:55is paying interest on that money. The
- 23:57banking system has such a huge impact on
- 24:00the world, but only because it supplies
- 24:03our nation's money supply. We have to
- 24:06protect them. We have to subsidize them.
- 24:08We have to allow them to continue
- 24:10because the the disaster of of a bank
- 24:12collapse affects us all in a huge way.
- 24:15And anyone that says that we shouldn't
- 24:16have bailed out the banks doesn't quite
- 24:19understand the the nature of our
- 24:21monetary system. That's like eliminating
- 24:23a huge chunk of our money. But also
- 24:26bailing out the banks is perpetuating a
- 24:29system which is never going to work
- 24:31anyway. So whatever we do, we're always
- 24:34going to have this cycle until we
- 24:35separate how money is created and the
- 24:38activities of banking. Then the banks
- 24:39can do as they wish. They're a normal
- 24:41business like everyone else. There's a a
- 24:43major democratic issue here as well. I
- 24:46mean, you have these private
- 24:48profit-seeking banks creating up to200
- 24:51billion pounds a year and pumping that
- 24:52into the economy wherever they want,
- 24:55basically, wherever it suits them.
- 24:57Whether they're pumping it into, you
- 24:59know, these toxic deriv derivatives or
- 25:01putting money into housing bubbles, just
- 25:04making housing more expensive. 200
- 25:06billion pounds in 2007 of new money
- 25:09coming into the economy created out of
- 25:11nothing. And where that gets spent
- 25:13determines, you know, the shape of our
- 25:15economy effectively. So if we're going
- 25:18to allow anybody to create new money out
- 25:20of nothing, then we should at least have
- 25:22some democratic control over how that
- 25:24money is used. I mean, it it would we
- 25:26rather have had that money used for
- 25:28healthare, you know, to deal with some
- 25:30of the environmental issues to reduce
- 25:31poverty, or would we rather have it to
- 25:33make houses more expensive so that none
- 25:35of us can afford to to live in a house?
- 25:37What do we think of that?
- 25:41>> You can see it as a subsidy, a special
- 25:45super subsidy to the banks for the right
- 25:49to create money which should be for the
- 25:52benefit of the public and spent through
- 25:55a democratic process.
- 26:03There's also another form of money which
- 26:06is effectively an electronic version of
- 26:08cash and it's a type of money that the
- 26:11commercial banks use themselves to make
- 26:14payments between each other. The high
- 26:16street banks don't want to be carrying
- 26:17around huge quantities of money because
- 26:20it's dangerous and it's inconvenient and
- 26:21it's, you know, expensive. You have to
- 26:23hire security guards for that type of
- 26:25money. So what they do is they pay each
- 26:27other in what is an electronic version
- 26:30of cash um which in the industry is
- 26:34known as central bank reserves. Um they
- 26:37keep this electronic cash in accounts at
- 26:40the bank of England but as a member of
- 26:43the public you can't access this
- 26:45electronic cash. You can't get an
- 26:46account with the Bank of England. What
- 26:48they do is they they effectively sell
- 26:51this central bank money to the banks.
- 26:54And they do this by creating it out of
- 26:56nothing and using this money to pay for
- 26:59bonds to buy bonds from the high street
- 27:02banks. So the high street bank will come
- 27:05along with a bond which is you know
- 27:07effectively government debt and it will
- 27:09give it to the bank of England and in
- 27:10return the bank of England will type
- 27:12some new numbers into the bank's account
- 27:15at the Bank of England. So effectively
- 27:17they're creating central bank reserves
- 27:18out of nothing. The Bank of England
- 27:20creates central bank reserves by
- 27:23increasing the available credit in the
- 27:25settlement bank's account with the Bank
- 27:27of England. The settlement bank in
- 27:30return post bonds or sells assets as
- 27:33collateral for the reserves.
- 27:37A total of 46 banks hold central reserve
- 27:40accounts at the Bank of England. Smaller
- 27:43or foreign banks hold accounts with one
- 27:45of these 46 banks to allow them to
- 27:48accept or make payments in pounds
- 27:50sterling.
- 27:53Prior to March 2009, the Bank of England
- 27:56would ask each of the major settlement
- 27:57banks how much reserve currency they
- 28:00needed.
- 28:01The settlement banks would then swap a
- 28:03bond for the reserve currency and agree
- 28:06to repurchase the bond for a specific
- 28:08amount at a specified future date.
- 28:13The settlement banks would then receive
- 28:15interest at base or policy rate for the
- 28:17central bank reserves they held.
- 28:21Since the crisis, settlement bank
- 28:23central reserves have shot up
- 28:25dramatically.
- 28:26[Music]
- 28:40When bank customers transfer funds from
- 28:42their account to another person's
- 28:44account, a process called intraday
- 28:47clearing occurs.
- 28:49The amount of central reserve currency
- 28:51bank A has at the Bank of England is
- 28:54reduced by the corresponding amount that
- 28:56bank B receives. This is the importance
- 28:59of central reserve currency to banks.
- 29:03Before the credit crisis, if a bank was
- 29:06short of central reserves at the Bank of
- 29:08England to meet its obligations,
- 29:11then the bank would have to loan
- 29:12reserves from other banks with interest.
- 29:26If you sell something on eBay, you know
- 29:28that that deal is not complete until you
- 29:30get some money put into your account.
- 29:31You know, most people actually want to
- 29:33see the money in their account before
- 29:34they're happy to close on a deal. Now,
- 29:36the banks are pretty much the same, but
- 29:38they want to see the money in their
- 29:40account at the Bank of England before
- 29:42they consider a deal complete. So, for
- 29:44example, if you if you're buying a house
- 29:46from somebody who banks with a different
- 29:48bank, then what what will happen after
- 29:50you spend quarter of a million on a
- 29:52house is you'll tell your bank to
- 29:54transfer some money to this house
- 29:57sellers bank. And what the bank will do
- 30:00is actually instruct the bank of England
- 30:02to move 250,000 from their account at
- 30:05the Bank of England to the bank of the
- 30:09house seller and that money will
- 30:11actually move across between the
- 30:12accounts at the Bank of England. Um when
- 30:14that money is moved across and the banks
- 30:16will consider that that payment has been
- 30:18made, you know, it's been settled. Um
- 30:21they don't really deal in the kind of
- 30:24money that we have in our accounts. they
- 30:26deal in there special money that's can
- 30:28only be used at the central bank.
- 30:32>> There are millions of people across the
- 30:34country all transferring money to each
- 30:36other using only a few major banks.
- 30:40These banks can keep a tally on their
- 30:42computer systems and usually many of the
- 30:44movements cancel each other out at the
- 30:46end of the day.
- 30:48The five major banks RBS, Lloyds, HSBC,
- 30:54Barclays, and Santandere
- 30:57hold over 85% of all deposits.
- 31:03As there are a limited number of banks
- 31:04in the system, the central reserve money
- 31:07can only be moved around them in a
- 31:09closed loop.
- 31:10>> The money is just circulating through
- 31:12this system over and over again. And if
- 31:15you think about it, a one pound coin
- 31:17could be used to make a billion pounds
- 31:19of payments if it was circulated a
- 31:21billion times. And that's effectively
- 31:23the system that you have now is you have
- 31:25a small pool of real money that's just
- 31:27going round and round the system and
- 31:28it's being used to make a a huge
- 31:30quantity of payments on our behalf. Just
- 31:33before the crisis, there was only 20
- 31:35billion pounds in the accounts at the
- 31:37central bank.
- 31:41If they don't have enough of this
- 31:43central bank money, then effectively
- 31:45they can't make payments. And if that
- 31:47happens, then pretty quickly the entire
- 31:49system seizes up. So the Bank of England
- 31:52has the responsibility of making sure
- 31:54there's enough of this money in the
- 31:55system.
- 31:58The requirements for banks to hold a
- 32:00specific amount of reserves has changed
- 32:02many times since 1947.
- 32:05At that time, banks needed to hold a
- 32:07minimum ratio of 32% of reserves, cash
- 32:11or treasury bonds to deposits.
- 32:14In 2006, the corridor system was
- 32:17introduced
- 32:18in which banks could set their own
- 32:20reserve targets each month.
- 32:25The rules changed again in March 2009
- 32:29when the Bank of England introduced
- 32:30quantitative easing. Quantitative easing
- 32:33in effect gives settlement banks the
- 32:35central reserve currency for free.
- 32:41The central reserve currency is what is
- 32:44referred to as the real money in the
- 32:46fractional reserve model. But the fact
- 32:48is banks can have as much of this as
- 32:50they want. And central reserve currency
- 32:53itself is a form of fiat money which is
- 32:55backed by nothing.
- 32:58As a consequence, there is no longer a
- 33:00meaningful fractional reserve.
- 33:08[Music]
- 33:14If you look over the history, the last
- 33:16150 years or so, you you start off um
- 33:19with the development of of a a gold
- 33:20standard that really comes to four in
- 33:22the 1880s, 1890s, where essentially uh
- 33:25countries peg themselves to a particular
- 33:27defined value of gold. And then they
- 33:29have an agreement to uh fix that value
- 33:32to hold that value and to trade gold
- 33:34amongst themselves to to make sure the
- 33:35balances are all there and also to try
- 33:37and uh restrict or expand or contract um
- 33:40activity in their own economies uh to
- 33:43make sure that the balance that
- 33:45particular fixed price is maintained
- 33:46that disintegrates uh in the well after
- 33:49the first world war. I mean this is
- 33:51where the whole thing breaks apart. Very
- 33:53major dislocation in the international
- 33:55monetary system at that point. Not
- 33:57really resolved until you get Breton
- 33:58Woods agreements at the end of the
- 34:00Second World War in which everything is
- 34:03pegged to the dollar and the dollar is
- 34:04pegged to the gold. So you're kind of
- 34:05one removed from gold backing or saying
- 34:08that there was a definite, you know,
- 34:10sort of solid commodity money behind the
- 34:13paper money and the credit money that
- 34:14we're all using over here. You're kind
- 34:15of one removed from it. After Hiroshima,
- 34:19Tokyo wondered when the next atom bomb
- 34:21would fall. They did not wonder long.
- 34:25[Music]
- 34:30In 1944
- 34:32at Breton Woods, the US and the UK began
- 34:36to negotiate how to govern the world
- 34:39economy, the world monetary system, and
- 34:42came up with the World Bank and the IMF
- 34:44and a series of other institutions
- 34:46designed to manage the global currency.
- 34:49And there was still a gold standard, but
- 34:51this gold standard was going to be tied
- 34:52to the dollar. All of the world's gold
- 34:55had moved from London to Fort Knox. and
- 34:59all of the world's currencies were tied
- 35:01to the dollar.
- 35:03This system was designed to manage the
- 35:06sorts of imbalances to avoid credit
- 35:08crunches or for countries the credit
- 35:11crunches are known as balance of trades
- 35:13deficits i.e. when they can't pay their
- 35:15bills and their currency collapses. The
- 35:18currencies were managed and the system
- 35:21was stable as long as the Americans
- 35:24played the role of oversight.
- 35:28Now, who knows the great story about how
- 35:30that all came to an end.
- 35:33>> So, the quantity of money that was
- 35:34needed to pay for the Vietnam War.
- 35:37That's exactly what I was trying to get
- 35:39at. Oil shocks was another one. That
- 35:41meant that the Americans were no longer
- 35:42respecting their role or playing their
- 35:44role governing the monetary system. They
- 35:46were inflating the value of their own
- 35:47currency, but ostensibly it was meant to
- 35:49be tied tied to gold and to every other
- 35:52currency.
- 35:53So, what did the French do? The French
- 35:56were a little bit worried that President
- 35:57Nixon wasn't entirely honest
- 36:01and they were worried that they were
- 36:03that precisely what we described
- 36:06that Nixon was printing money when he
- 36:09shouldn't have been was going on. And
- 36:11they were worried there wasn't enough
- 36:13gold to honor the exchange rate of the
- 36:15French Frank. So they sent a gunboat to
- 36:19New York Harbor to ever so politely ask
- 36:21for our gold back, please.
- 36:24Did they get their gold back?
- 36:27>> Go on, guess
- 36:29>> they didn't. And the Bretton Woods
- 36:31system came to an end.
- 36:34And this is the point in which we enter
- 36:36the modern era of the financial system.
- 36:47Historically, money creation was pegged
- 36:49to a commodity, often gold. But today,
- 36:53it is pegged to nothing,
- 36:56>> which means there is nothing backing our
- 36:59money. This piece of paper
- 37:02is just a piece of paper.
- 37:06Where does this leave us?
- 37:09If money is based on nothing, why do we
- 37:12think it has any value?
- 37:15>> Sorry.
- 37:17>> Still go and exchange it.
- 37:18>> Because we can still go and exchange it.
- 37:19What? What? Somebody else is going to
- 37:20shout.
- 37:22>> Great little Latin fact. The word for
- 37:24credit comes from
- 37:27>> belief.
- 37:28Correct.
- 37:36Since the collapse of the dollar gold
- 37:38standard in 1971 and the deregulation of
- 37:41the financial system, money creation has
- 37:44grown exponentially.
- 37:47The World Economic Forum meeting in in
- 37:50Davos at the present time have called on
- 37:54a need for the credit within the
- 37:59economy uh the global economy to be
- 38:02expanded by
- 38:04100 trillion dollars 100 trillion US
- 38:08dollars.
- 38:11Trillion is 12 knots. So 100 trillion if
- 38:14you want to imagine is a one followed by
- 38:1714 knots.
- 38:19>> They believe this credit expansion will
- 38:21create a boom because there is now more
- 38:23money in the economy with which to make
- 38:25investments.
- 38:27>> It's fascinating that this the emergence
- 38:29of digital currencies how it's
- 38:30transformed everything really. um
- 38:33because it just completely unleashed
- 38:35private banks to dominate and create the
- 38:38money system that works for them and
- 38:41works for the people who run private
- 38:43banks.
- 38:45[Music]
- 38:47If we want a growing economy under the
- 38:49current setup, we have to have growing
- 38:51debt. You can't, you know, this is
- 38:54something that very very few people
- 38:56really understand, especially not the
- 38:58politicians who are managing the
- 39:00economy, which is a scary thought.
- 39:03[Music]
- 39:09As the money supply grows, more money is
- 39:12available which can be invested in
- 39:14productive avenues.
- 39:16However, it can also be used to gamble
- 39:18and drive up asset prices.
- 39:21[Music]
- 39:36Inflation is a rise in the general level
- 39:38of prices of goods and services in an
- 39:40economy over a period of time.
- 39:43When the general price level rises, each
- 39:46unit of currency buys fewer goods and
- 39:49services.
- 39:50As the money supply grows and there is
- 39:52more currency available, more money is
- 39:54available for investment which can lead
- 39:56to growth. But more money is also
- 39:59available for purchases of goods and
- 40:02speculation
- 40:03which leads to inflation.
- 40:07Essentially inflation is what happens
- 40:10when too much money is chasing too few
- 40:14goods and services. So that there's too
- 40:17much money for the the actual output of
- 40:21the economy.
- 40:24In the seven years between 2000 and
- 40:262007, the money supply doubled and the
- 40:30banks, you know, the central bank, the
- 40:32bank of England in this time was under
- 40:34the impression that they had it under
- 40:36control because they were saying, you
- 40:37know, prices aren't going up that much.
- 40:39Of course, they were only looking at
- 40:40prices in, you know, in your local
- 40:43corner shop. They weren't looking at the
- 40:45price of housing and housing is you know
- 40:47the biggest expenditure that most people
- 40:49will make.
- 40:58Increasing house prices
- 41:01uh it may may make you feel like you're
- 41:03you're becoming wealthier but as your
- 41:06wealth increases the effect is that your
- 41:10children's wealth is actually
- 41:11decreasing. So in fact, there's no net
- 41:14gain in wealth because your children are
- 41:17going to have to pay even more when they
- 41:20want to buy a house. So in effect,
- 41:22there's no there's no kind of net
- 41:24increase. They're going to have to earn
- 41:25even more. They're going to have to go
- 41:27into even more debt. So the rising house
- 41:31prices do not create additional uh net
- 41:35GDP value to the economy. It they they
- 41:38actually what they do is they
- 41:40redistribute wealth. uh towards those
- 41:43people who already have houses i.e.
- 41:44wealthier people and remove it from
- 41:47poorer people who can't afford to get on
- 41:49the housing ladder. So it's another
- 41:51example of a very regressive policy
- 41:53actually to allow house prices to simply
- 41:56inflate. It makes everybody feel kind of
- 41:59like things are going well and people
- 42:02spend more money on other stuff. They
- 42:03take equity out of their houses, but it
- 42:05it's not creating new jobs. It's not
- 42:08enhancing the quality of the economy.
- 42:11It's not helping our balance of trade.
- 42:13It's not helping the public deficit. Um,
- 42:15it's a it's a zero sum game.
- 42:19>> As of August 2011, 85.5%
- 42:23of consumer bank lending was secured as
- 42:26mortgages on dwellings.
- 42:28>> If you have somebody creating money that
- 42:30can only be spent on one thing, which is
- 42:32housing, then the price of that thing is
- 42:34going to go up. Between 2000 and 2010,
- 42:38they created over a trillion pounds of
- 42:40new money, 500 billion pounds just in
- 42:42the three years before the crisis.
- 42:44That's why house prices went up the way
- 42:46they were. There's nothing, you know,
- 42:48special about houses. It was just all
- 42:50this funny money being pumped into that
- 42:52market. If money is spent into the
- 42:54economy
- 42:56into into a lot of money goes into
- 42:58houses for example into mortgages
- 43:01um that's an increase in the amount of
- 43:03money in the economy without a
- 43:05corresponding increase in activity in
- 43:08output in GDP. It's non-GDP based um
- 43:13spending. Uh that's what causes
- 43:16inflation and and and in the UK we've
- 43:19we've had it in spades. we've had, you
- 43:21know, this massive uh housing boom and
- 43:24the the main cause for the housing boom
- 43:26in my opinion is the huge amount of
- 43:29speculative credit created by the banks
- 43:32to go into houses. If houses were
- 43:35cheaper,
- 43:36um they would be easier to build, more
- 43:39there would be more of them would be
- 43:41built. There would be less huge houses
- 43:44with hardly any people in them. London
- 43:47would not be the center of a a kind of
- 43:49very rich um speculative orgy where
- 43:53where all the richest people in the
- 43:54world want want to get a property in
- 43:56London because it's seen as a as a great
- 43:57asset. You know, houses would be seen as
- 43:59places to live primarily rather than
- 44:01places to invest.
- 44:03Important thing to think about is if
- 44:05you're a bank and you've got to make a
- 44:08loan, you have choices. You can you can
- 44:11give that loan to um a small business
- 44:15and you'll know that the risk to you of
- 44:17that loan failing, defaulting is
- 44:20actually quite high because that small
- 44:23business, the owners of that business
- 44:24have limited liability, which means if
- 44:27the business goes bust, you as a bank
- 44:29are getting nothing back essentially.
- 44:32You know that that's it. So that's kind
- 44:33of high risk compared to loaning your
- 44:36money to somebody with some collateral
- 44:39with a house behind them like a
- 44:41mortgage. So there's a there's a kind of
- 44:42simple incentive for banks to prefer
- 44:45putting money into housing than into a
- 44:48small business. Now that's a real
- 44:50problem or if you if you if you widen
- 44:52that out across a whole economy because
- 44:55it means there's an incentive you know
- 44:57to put money into speculative rather
- 44:59than productive investments. So again,
- 45:02we have to think about how we create a
- 45:04monetary system that is more balanced
- 45:07between those two kinds of speculative
- 45:09and productive investment. The
- 45:11government showing very little uh
- 45:13enormous reluctance to regulate the
- 45:15housing market and to again regulate the
- 45:18amount of money that that banks put into
- 45:20houses.
- 45:21>> We don't decide who creates credit for
- 45:23what. No, we leave that to a couple of
- 45:25chaps in a bank to decide basically.
- 45:35A bubble occurs when there is very high
- 45:37inflation in the price of a specific
- 45:39good or service over a short period of
- 45:41time.
- 45:44>> The idea of the tulips and their
- 45:47relevance is that we saw the first ever
- 45:49financial bubble and crash. The craze
- 45:53for tulips, black tulips being a
- 45:56mythical ideal of what somebody could
- 45:59genetically engineer through cultivation
- 46:02after many generations became a mania in
- 46:06the Netherlands in the 1630s.
- 46:08What they didn't realize was that many
- 46:10of the very very rare patterns on tulips
- 46:12were caused by a virus and weren't
- 46:14genetic at all.
- 46:16But they traded in them to the extent
- 46:18that tulip bulbs got to the point where
- 46:20they were worth 10 times the average
- 46:21annual salary of a person working in the
- 46:25Netherlands. There was a futures market
- 46:27in tulip bulbs because obviously you
- 46:29plant them now but you don't know what's
- 46:30going to come out the ground. So we see
- 46:32already 400 years ago that a money
- 46:35system or a financial system is not
- 46:37something that exists in the abstract
- 46:39somewhere out there in the ether but
- 46:42something that was to do with states
- 46:45power trade and how they interact with
- 46:48each other.
- 46:51Unlike tulips which are a disposable
- 46:53luxury,
- 46:55houses are both a necessity and a luxury
- 46:58and as such they are ideal as a vehicle
- 47:01for money and bubble creation.
- 47:04A dwelling is perhaps the most prized
- 47:07possession of value most people aspire
- 47:09to.
- 47:13Inflating house prices in this way
- 47:15allows a nation to expand its money
- 47:17supply without affecting inflation data.
- 47:22The additional purchasing power created
- 47:24increases the perceived wealth in
- 47:26relation to other nations
- 47:28and thus it creates relative power.
- 47:32It is a way of increasing monetary power
- 47:34without investing in the productive
- 47:36growth of industry.
- 47:40But certainly if you look at Britain and
- 47:41America as outstanding examples of this,
- 47:43these are countries with very high rates
- 47:45of private home ownership. you've got a
- 47:47good base to try and perform this sort
- 47:49of policy off the back of. I think it
- 47:51was quite deliberate in the case of the
- 47:53US almost explicit as Alan Greenspan as
- 47:56head of the Federal Reserve when
- 47:58confronted by a stock market crash at
- 48:00the end of the the 1990s quite
- 48:03deliberately slashed interest rates to
- 48:06almost zero. Everyone can borrow uh very
- 48:09very cheaply. in particular, it's very
- 48:11easy to borrow against a house because
- 48:13this is an asset and it's potentially
- 48:15something that the bank can say, well,
- 48:16okay, we're not just lending your money
- 48:18unsecured. You actually do have a house
- 48:20and that's great cuz we can repossess
- 48:21it. They won't tell you this when you
- 48:23take the mortgage, but they can do this.
- 48:25And that bubble is in what fuels
- 48:27expansion such as it is inside the US
- 48:30and inside the UK where something
- 48:31similar takes place for the next decade
- 48:33or so. I think it also a reflection of
- 48:36an underlying weakness in these
- 48:37governments that they they simply lack
- 48:40the will and possibly the ability, but I
- 48:43think it more comes down to a will to
- 48:45challenge financial markets to challenge
- 48:47big capital and say we're going to do
- 48:49something different now and you're going
- 48:51to have to go along with it because
- 48:53we've been democratically elected and
- 48:54you lot frankly haven't and we have a
- 48:56mandate to do this and we're going to
- 48:57make this happen.
- 48:58>> Just remember it's all part of the plan.
- 49:02>> What are you yapping about? you voted
- 49:04for it
- 49:07>> in Holland or in the Netherlands. What
- 49:10we had over a period of trying to get
- 49:13independence initially from Spain and
- 49:15trying to raise money to get an army to
- 49:17free themselves was financial
- 49:19innovation. They innovated public
- 49:21lotteryies to get money together. They
- 49:23had public subscription. This was the
- 49:25idea that led to the idea of public
- 49:27shares, a piece of the action that
- 49:29anybody could invest in. That meant that
- 49:31something like twothirds of the
- 49:32population was investing in tulip bulbs
- 49:34by the 1630s.
- 49:36After independence, these these
- 49:38instruments were applied to financing
- 49:40expansion. Why was such a small country
- 49:43able to hold its own against so much
- 49:45bigger countries? For example, Spain and
- 49:48Portugal that had the benefits of their
- 49:50empires for over a century
- 49:53in respect of the Netherlands. Why could
- 49:55they compete on what resource basis?
- 49:58Well, they had a more efficient, a more
- 50:00involved, and a broaderbased financial
- 50:03system with these instruments that
- 50:05they'd innovated that allowed them to
- 50:07bring more money to bear at one point
- 50:09than anybody else more quickly.
- 50:14>> Incredible,
- 50:17>> but true.
- 50:24Now inflation can be avoided if the
- 50:28amount of money that goes into the
- 50:29economy um is regulated in a way that it
- 50:33doesn't exceed the actual activity
- 50:37that's happening in the economy. Now the
- 50:40best way to do that in my opinion is to
- 50:43make sure that money is issued into the
- 50:45economy only for productive investment
- 50:50for productive goods and services. So
- 50:52money goes in to help a small business
- 50:56start up which creates jobs which
- 50:59creates additional purchasing power um
- 51:02which means there's there's no
- 51:04inflation. During their history, almost
- 51:07all central banks have employed forms of
- 51:09direct credit regulation.
- 51:11The central bank would determine desired
- 51:13nominal GDP growth, then calculate the
- 51:16necessary amount of credit creation to
- 51:18achieve this and then allocate this
- 51:21credit creation both across the various
- 51:23banks and type of banks and across
- 51:25industrial sectors.
- 51:28Unproductive credit was suppressed.
- 51:32Thus, it was difficult or impossible to
- 51:35obtain bank credit for large-scale
- 51:37purely speculative transactions such as
- 51:40today's large-scale bank funding to
- 51:42hedge funds.
- 51:44The World Bank recognized in a 1993
- 51:46study that this mechanism of
- 51:48intervention in credit allocation was at
- 51:51the core of the East Asian economic
- 51:53miracle. There's all sorts of things
- 51:55that governments have done in the past
- 51:57uh very successfully in a number of
- 51:58cases and not often not unsuccessfully
- 52:01in this country but you know the
- 52:02examples that spring to mind like South
- 52:04Korea, Japan often in East Asia where
- 52:06governments have been quite targeted
- 52:07about how they're going to rebalance the
- 52:09economy and picking sectors and deciding
- 52:12where the investment should take place.
- 52:13I think that has to start happening in
- 52:14the UK because we're in a a demand side
- 52:17recession rather than looking at crisis
- 52:19of of supply. You you have to have a
- 52:21system where credit is put into
- 52:25productive um avenues, where credit is
- 52:28put into building highspeed rail links,
- 52:30where credit is put into um building
- 52:32houses rather than giving people money
- 52:35to inflate the price of of houses. So,
- 52:37it's it's quite simple really in that
- 52:40way. Um and uh the current system is
- 52:44simply set up not to do that. Basically,
- 52:48>> the creation of money by private banks
- 52:50for non-productive usage causes real
- 52:52inflation and as such it is attacks on
- 52:55the purchasing power of the medium of
- 52:57exchange.
- 53:05The figures for the UK are quite stark
- 53:07actually that average median real
- 53:11incomes for so that's you know what the
- 53:14bit in the middle uh for most people
- 53:16declined over the last 8 years or so.
- 53:18They're now in quite sharp decline as we
- 53:20go into the recession. I mean the
- 53:21sharpest really since it looks like
- 53:23since about the 1930s put it that way.
- 53:24So real incomes are declining.
- 53:28Bank created fiat currency allows the
- 53:30private banks to suck wealth from the
- 53:32economy and over time results in a
- 53:34gradual decrease in the standard of
- 53:36living.
- 53:38As people become poorer, they become
- 53:40even more dependent on debt
- 53:43and this at a time when efficiency and
- 53:45machination have improved dramatically.
- 53:49>> You know, if you go back to the 1960s
- 53:50and we were expected to to we were
- 53:53looking forward to an age of leisure.
- 53:55What will people what they were talking
- 53:57television program saying what's people
- 53:59going to do with all their spare time
- 54:01you know and now we've got more people
- 54:04working harder than ever
- 54:06spending more than ever which looks
- 54:09great you know everyone's spending more
- 54:11everyone says oh yeah we you know but if
- 54:13you're not actually benefiting from what
- 54:16you're spending if you're having to
- 54:17spend the money on child care costs on
- 54:19commuting costs you know and so forth uh
- 54:23just you know costs that people didn't
- 54:25in the past used to have to pay because
- 54:28you know you could walk to work and you
- 54:29know one member of the family remain was
- 54:32able to to stay at home and be a
- 54:33permanent homemaker then you're actually
- 54:35much you're not actually any better off
- 54:37you know everyone's under and everyone's
- 54:39under such enormous pressures nowadays
- 54:42you know I am conscious that I say my
- 54:46four nephews and nieces are facing
- 54:49difficult times just going to find
- 54:51themselves having to work you know um
- 54:56very hard just to to keep just to keep a
- 55:00roof over their just to get a roof over
- 55:01their head just to keep a roof over
- 55:02their head. People are getting poorer in
- 55:04real terms is because prices always
- 55:06going up because all this new funny
- 55:09money is being pumped into the system by
- 55:10the banks
- 55:12and they're creating it all as debt. So
- 55:15at the same time as prices are going up
- 55:16and things are getting more expensive,
- 55:18we're getting further and further into
- 55:19debt and you know our our wealth and the
- 55:23return that we get from actually working
- 55:24is getting less and less all the time. I
- 55:26mean you can't deal with poverty when
- 55:28you have a financial system and a money
- 55:30system that distributes money from the
- 55:32poor to the very rich. Any distribution
- 55:36that you try and do in the opposite
- 55:37direction is um you know it's
- 55:39effectively pissing in the wind. If you
- 55:41look at issues like you know increasing
- 55:44inequality, one obvious way to tackle
- 55:47inequality is to have say for example a
- 55:49redistributive tax system. You know you
- 55:52tax the rich, you give some money to the
- 55:53poor, you move a bit of money down the
- 55:56scale. Um that's all very well, but if
- 55:59you completely overlook the fact that
- 56:01there's another redistributive system
- 56:03which is taking money from the poor and
- 56:05giving it to the rich, then you're not
- 56:07really going to tackle this inequality.
- 56:10And um the way a debt based money system
- 56:13works, it guarantees that for every
- 56:15pound of money, there's going to be a
- 56:17pound of debt. Now that debt is
- 56:19typically going to end up with, you
- 56:20know, the poor, uh the sort of lower
- 56:22middle classes. Those people end up with
- 56:24the debt and they end up paying interest
- 56:26on that money which then goes back to
- 56:28the banking sector and gets distributed
- 56:30to the people working in the city or in
- 56:33Wall Street. Um, and what this what this
- 56:36system does overall is it distributes
- 56:37money from from the poor to the rich
- 56:40essentially distributes money from you
- 56:43know the poorer regions of the UK back
- 56:46to the city of London and it it also
- 56:48distributes money from all the small
- 56:50businesses you know all the little
- 56:52factories um around the UK and
- 56:55distributes that money back into the
- 56:56financial sector. We have a system
- 56:59whereby the activity of actually
- 57:02supplying our nation's money supply
- 57:04occurs under the very same roof as the
- 57:07same organization that's responsible for
- 57:10profiting from putting together
- 57:11borrowers and lenders i.e. a bank. So a
- 57:14bank creates our nation's money supply
- 57:16as well as um making loans uh for
- 57:20profit. The government cannot allow the
- 57:22banking system to fail because if it did
- 57:26over 97% of all money would disappear.
- 57:30This is why in the event of a crisis the
- 57:32risk is transferred to the taxpayer.
- 57:35But even during normal times, banks
- 57:37receive numerous guarantees and benefits
- 57:39beyond the right to create money.
- 57:42>> Bill, by the way, I know the Bank of
- 57:43America is a very big bank. It happens
- 57:45I've got $32 there myself.
- 57:48Now, just between us, what assurance do
- 57:49I have that this money is safe?
- 57:52>> Well, uh, all deposits up to $10,000 are
- 57:55assured or insured by the federal
- 57:57government in Washington.
- 57:58>> That's my guarantee.
- 58:00>> Yes. Uhhuh.
- 58:00>> Have you heard that the federal
- 58:02government is about $280 billion in the
- 58:04hole?
- 58:09>> Banks receive large safety nets from the
- 58:11government. The taxpayer guarantees
- 58:14£85,000 as deposit insurance.
- 58:17And the Bank of England provides
- 58:19liquidity insurance in case a bank runs
- 58:21out of reserve currency.
- 58:28Someone wrote that a big investment bank
- 58:31is like a giant vampire squid wrapped
- 58:35around the face of humanity,
- 58:38hypnotizing politicians who throw money
- 58:40at the banks. No strings attached, no
- 58:44matter what damage is done.
- 58:47trashing the planet.
- 58:49Forcing cuts to things that make life
- 58:52better.
- 58:53Goodbye schools.
- 58:55Goodbye playgrounds.
- 58:57Goodbye jobs.
- 59:00The bankers that we bailed out then gave
- 59:04themselves bonuses that were bigger than
- 59:06the first wave of public spending cuts.
- 59:10Britain alone gave the banks more money
- 59:13than it costs to put a man on the move.
- 59:16six times over.
- 59:19Where did our money go? Who let the
- 59:22banks get away with it? Why
- 59:26can vampire squids ever be useful?
- 59:30No government yet is brave enough to
- 59:32tame them. Perhaps they need a plan.
- 59:55The spending cuts agenda is an attempt
- 59:57by the government to shift debt from its
- 59:59account to that of the public.
- 1:00:03This is the government's response to the
- 1:00:04bank bailouts and is necessary in a
- 1:00:07debt-based monetary system where
- 1:00:10increased purchasing power is the result
- 1:00:11of growing debt and where a
- 1:00:14diversification of debt provides overall
- 1:00:16stability and market confidence.
- 1:00:19Policies such as student fee increases
- 1:00:22and the privatization of public
- 1:00:24services, assets and industry follow the
- 1:00:27same model. The problem we're facing, I
- 1:00:29think, is that uh there's been there's
- 1:00:32this transference from the the public
- 1:00:33debt to to the private debt, which is a
- 1:00:36which is essentially a a way of
- 1:00:38transferring risk actually away from
- 1:00:40sort of UK PLC and the government onto
- 1:00:44the the heads of individuals and it's
- 1:00:46going to be the most vulnerable
- 1:00:47individuals who are going to have the
- 1:00:49most debt. Uh thus it's a very
- 1:00:51unprogressive regressive uh policy
- 1:00:54framework that that the government's
- 1:00:56embarking on where the risk is moved on
- 1:00:58to those who are most vulnerable and if
- 1:01:01there is another financial shock if
- 1:01:03there's an oil shock for example the
- 1:01:05people who will pay the penalty are
- 1:01:06those are the poorest people in society
- 1:01:08or homeowners for example who will fall
- 1:01:11into negative equity if interest rates
- 1:01:13go up even 1 or 2% uh there'll be real
- 1:01:16really big problems so I don't think
- 1:01:19it's a sensible way forward at the
- 1:01:21moment at all. And it's uh it's
- 1:01:22regressive and it's certainly not fair
- 1:01:25uh in the terms that um that the
- 1:01:27government's talking about and it's
- 1:01:29certainly not a case of we're in this
- 1:01:30together.
- 1:01:32>> As more of a country's resources and
- 1:01:34industries are privatized, the private
- 1:01:36sector takes on more debt. As a result,
- 1:01:39more money is created and there is a
- 1:01:42boom.
- 1:01:44Some private equity companies have taken
- 1:01:46this theory to the extreme. engaging in
- 1:01:49a practice known as a leveraged buyout
- 1:01:53where a company is purchased at an often
- 1:01:55inflated price and the purchase price is
- 1:01:58transferred to the business as a debt.
- 1:02:02The company becomes responsible for the
- 1:02:04funding of its own purchase. These debts
- 1:02:07are often so great that the company
- 1:02:09needs to reduce staff salaries and
- 1:02:12research activities.
- 1:02:16When you have to factor interest as a
- 1:02:17business, if you have to factor interest
- 1:02:19repayment into your goods and services,
- 1:02:22then you have to charge a perpetually
- 1:02:24higher price as you take on more and
- 1:02:26more debt. An increase in the
- 1:02:28diversification of debt results in an
- 1:02:30increase in the money supply.
- 1:02:33When the money supply increases, more
- 1:02:35money is available for productive
- 1:02:37activities and consumption,
- 1:02:39which is the condition for a boom.
- 1:02:44It's questionable whether we're going to
- 1:02:45get out of this recession or whether
- 1:02:47we'll just keep ticking along the way
- 1:02:48that we are now. Um, however, if we do,
- 1:02:52then when we come out of this recession,
- 1:02:54when growth starts again, look at what
- 1:02:56happens to debt. It will rise and it
- 1:02:58will keep rising and the faster the
- 1:03:00economy is growing, the faster the debt
- 1:03:01will rise and then give it another 3 to
- 1:03:055 years, we'll be back where we were.
- 1:03:07You know, the debt will become too much.
- 1:03:09People will start defaulting again. um
- 1:03:11as kind of the system that we're locked
- 1:03:13into now is we can't we can't grow the
- 1:03:15economy without growing the debt. And
- 1:03:17the debt is the very thing that will
- 1:03:18bring down the economy. The only option
- 1:03:21going forwards is to reform it to stop
- 1:03:22banks from creating money as debt.
- 1:03:25By fixing the monetary system, we can
- 1:03:28prevent the banks from ever causing
- 1:03:29another financial crisis. And we can
- 1:03:31also make the the current, you know,
- 1:03:33public service cuts and the tax rises
- 1:03:35and the increase in national debt
- 1:03:37unnecessary.
- 1:03:40The current monetary system allows the
- 1:03:42banking sector to extract wealth from
- 1:03:44the economy whilst providing nothing
- 1:03:46productive in return.
- 1:03:49I mean, why is it that we've got all
- 1:03:51this technology um you know, all this
- 1:03:54new efficiency and yet it now requires
- 1:03:56two people to finance a household
- 1:03:59whereas in the ' 50s it only needed one
- 1:04:01person working. And the reason for that
- 1:04:04is not because you know these washing
- 1:04:06machines and everything are more
- 1:04:07expensive. is because of all the debt
- 1:04:10and it's because you know effectively
- 1:04:12the banking sector is creming it off
- 1:04:13from everybody else. So a growing
- 1:04:15banking sector isn't a sign, you know,
- 1:04:17it's not a good thing. If the banking
- 1:04:19sector is growing, it's either that it's
- 1:04:21becoming less efficient or it's becoming
- 1:04:23a parasite on the rest of the economy.
- 1:04:25And that's, you know, we can talk about
- 1:04:26the banking sector becoming 4% 5% 6% of
- 1:04:30GDP. What's happening to the rest of the
- 1:04:32economy? It's becoming 96, 95, 94% of
- 1:04:35GDP. We've got to get switched on to
- 1:04:37this now. You know, if we want to if we
- 1:04:39want to have a chance of tackling any of
- 1:04:42the other big social issues, you've got
- 1:04:43to figure out the money issue.
- 1:04:45>> The poorest in the world pay for crisis
- 1:04:48even when they've not benefited from the
- 1:04:50um the the often re reckless and
- 1:04:52speculative booms like the housing boom
- 1:04:55in in Ireland that preceded um that
- 1:04:58crisis. You know, over the last 30
- 1:04:59years, we've seen um income
- 1:05:01differentials increase so that the rich
- 1:05:04have got much much richer. Um and
- 1:05:06ordinary people haven't. they've stayed
- 1:05:08the same or they've they've got poorer.
- 1:05:10Uh and one of the ways that the economy
- 1:05:11was kept going was by providing cheap
- 1:05:14credit was by providing debt to those
- 1:05:16very people who couldn't really afford
- 1:05:18things anymore. Um so they kept buying.
- 1:05:20Um and when it collapses, it's those
- 1:05:22same people that that have to pay once
- 1:05:25again even though in in many ways they
- 1:05:27were the victims the first time around.
- 1:05:29>> As a result of the crisis, the Bank of
- 1:05:31England has bought corporate debt and
- 1:05:34repackaged it at lower rates of
- 1:05:36interest. Yet the average person is
- 1:05:38being asked to pay more than ever to
- 1:05:40borrow on overdrafts and credit cards.
- 1:05:44>> Debts between the very wealthy um or
- 1:05:47between governments can always be
- 1:05:49renegotiated and always have been
- 1:05:51throughout world history. They're not
- 1:05:53anything set in stone. It's generally
- 1:05:55speaking when you have debts owed by the
- 1:05:57poor to the rich that suddenly debts
- 1:05:59become a sacred obligation, more
- 1:06:01important than anything else. Um the
- 1:06:03idea of renegotiating them becomes
- 1:06:04unthinkable.
- 1:06:07Can you pin down exactly what would keep
- 1:06:09investors happy, make them feel more
- 1:06:12confident?
- 1:06:14>> Uh, that's a tough one. Um,
- 1:06:17personally, uh, it doesn't matter that
- 1:06:19that's it. See, I'm a trader. Uh, I
- 1:06:20don't really care about that kind of.
- 1:06:26>> If I see an opportunity to make money, I
- 1:06:27go with that. Um, so for most traders,
- 1:06:30we don't really care that much how
- 1:06:32they're going to fix the how they're
- 1:06:33going to fix the economy, how they're
- 1:06:34going to fix the uh the whole situation.
- 1:06:37Our job is to make money from it. And
- 1:06:40personally, I've been dreaming of this
- 1:06:41moment for 3 years. If you know what to
- 1:06:44do, you can make a lot of money from
- 1:06:45this. I I I have a confession, which is
- 1:06:48uh I go to bed every night. I dream of
- 1:06:50another recession. I dream of another
- 1:06:51moment like this. I dream of another
- 1:06:54recession. I dream of another moment
- 1:06:55like this.
- 1:06:56You can make a lot of money from this.
- 1:06:59[Applause]
- 1:07:00>> Bruno, Virginia hurt somebody real bad.
- 1:07:05You ought to hate her.
- 1:07:10>> The way in which you can look across
- 1:07:12Europe now and see that the new prime
- 1:07:15minister in Greece, not elected,
- 1:07:16essentially imposed, Papadimos, former
- 1:07:18employee of Goldman Sachs. The new prime
- 1:07:21minister and finance minister of Italy,
- 1:07:23Mariam Monty, former employee of Goldman
- 1:07:25Sachs. the new president of the European
- 1:07:27Central Bank, former employee of Goldman
- 1:07:28Sachs. It's quite, you know, you kind of
- 1:07:30see these people popping up absolutely
- 1:07:31everywhere.
- 1:07:32>> That's the way to change what we have.
- 1:07:34Take all power and all freedoms away
- 1:07:36from the people and collect everything
- 1:07:38into the hands of one small group with
- 1:07:40absolute power
- 1:07:43>> from the people
- 1:07:45without the people
- 1:07:48against the people. What's been
- 1:07:50interesting out of all this, I suppose,
- 1:07:52is the question of democracy that's been
- 1:07:53opened up very starkly in Europe that
- 1:07:56that you have a government of bankers
- 1:07:57essentially imposed on you. It's bankers
- 1:07:59who more or less got us into this mess
- 1:08:01to put it rather crudely, but that's a
- 1:08:03good first approximation to it. And then
- 1:08:05you say, okay, bankers are the people
- 1:08:07who therefore going to get us out of it.
- 1:08:08And incidentally, they're going to run
- 1:08:09your your country. Now, there's there's
- 1:08:11a serious question democracy that's
- 1:08:12opened up here. By the way, the banking
- 1:08:14crisis drove more than 100 million
- 1:08:18people back into poverty.
- 1:08:22The mortality statistics of people who
- 1:08:25go into poverty rise hugely for a whole
- 1:08:29range of reasons. So, the banking crisis
- 1:08:32isn't just about becoming poorer. It was
- 1:08:33about killing people as well. And guess
- 1:08:36what?
- 1:08:38We haven't really got to the bottom of
- 1:08:40it. We never held anybody to account and
- 1:08:42we haven't done the radical reforming
- 1:08:44job that we really needed to do because
- 1:08:47we mistakenly thought if we destabilize
- 1:08:51the position any further, it'll make
- 1:08:53matters worse. And guess who took the
- 1:08:55decisions? All the people who were there
- 1:08:57in the first place.
- 1:09:00>> I think you ought to know that the
- 1:09:02business of one of these businessmen is
- 1:09:04murder.
- 1:09:11Their weapons are modern. They are
- 1:09:14thinking 2,000 years out of date.
- 1:09:26Look, I was there when the secretary and
- 1:09:28the uh chairman of the Federal Reserve
- 1:09:30came those days and talked with members
- 1:09:32of Congress about what was going on. It
- 1:09:35was about September 15th. Here's the
- 1:09:37facts, and we don't even talk about
- 1:09:39these things. On Thursday at about 11:00
- 1:09:43in the morning, the Federal Reserve
- 1:09:46noticed a tremendous draw down of uh uh
- 1:09:50uh money market accounts in the United
- 1:09:53States to the tune of $550
- 1:09:57billion was being d drawn out in a
- 1:10:00matter of an hour or two. the Treasury
- 1:10:03opened up its uh uh uh window to help.
- 1:10:07They pumped $105 billion dollars in the
- 1:10:10system and quickly realized that they
- 1:10:12could not stem the tide. We were having
- 1:10:14an electronic run on the banks. They
- 1:10:17decided to close the operation, close
- 1:10:20down the money accounts, and announce a
- 1:10:23guarantee of $250,000
- 1:10:25per account so there wouldn't be further
- 1:10:27panic out there. And that's what
- 1:10:29actually happened. If they had not done
- 1:10:31that, that their estimation was that by
- 1:10:342:00 that afternoon, 5.5 trillion
- 1:10:38dollars would have been drawn out of the
- 1:10:40money market system of the United States
- 1:10:42would have collapsed the entire economy
- 1:10:45of the United States and within 24 hours
- 1:10:47the world economy would have collapsed.
- 1:10:50When money is withdrawn internationally
- 1:10:53from one currency to another, the
- 1:10:55reserve currency shifts from the
- 1:10:57national bank of one country to the
- 1:10:59reserve account of the foreign bank.
- 1:11:03Foreign banks have relationships with
- 1:11:04local banks that allow them to hold
- 1:11:07foreign reserve currencies whilst not
- 1:11:09being a part of the central bank scheme
- 1:11:12at the local central bank.
- 1:11:17For example, when £1,000 is transferred
- 1:11:20into euros,
- 1:11:23a UK bank will agree an exchange rate
- 1:11:25with a euro area bank, perhaps 1.15 to
- 1:11:30the pound.
- 1:11:32The UK bank will then transfer £1,000 of
- 1:11:35the central reserve currency to the UK
- 1:11:37partner bank of the European bank,
- 1:11:40whilst the European bank will transfer
- 1:11:43€1,150
- 1:11:45of reserve currency to the European
- 1:11:47partner bank of the UK bank.
- 1:11:51>> What happens when currencies and the
- 1:11:53exchange rate system is no longer
- 1:11:55managed? What are some of the first
- 1:11:56consequences?
- 1:11:58>> Devaluations,
- 1:11:59>> speculation,
- 1:12:01Imbalances where some countries would
- 1:12:04acrue more and more and more what what
- 1:12:06would they acrue?
- 1:12:08>> Other currencies.
- 1:12:10>> Other currencies.
- 1:12:14>> The reserve currency needs to be spent
- 1:12:15in the country of origin or exchanged
- 1:12:18into other currencies.
- 1:12:21Most foreign banks do not have deposit
- 1:12:24taking accounts outside of their
- 1:12:25national borders and as such the foreign
- 1:12:29reserves they hold do not come back to
- 1:12:30them in the form of deposits.
- 1:12:35When a country accumulates trade
- 1:12:36imbalances, it either accumulates
- 1:12:39foreign reserve currencies in the case
- 1:12:42of surplus or spends its own reserves in
- 1:12:46the case of negative trade balances.
- 1:12:49balance of trade is is basically uh the
- 1:12:53difference between what you're selling
- 1:12:54abroad and what you're buying from
- 1:12:56abroad. Now the feature on the the UK is
- 1:13:00that for a very long period of time it's
- 1:13:03had a deficit on something called
- 1:13:05visible balance of trade which is
- 1:13:06trading things well things that you can
- 1:13:08see. So that is goods that you'd
- 1:13:10recognize, stuff you can put in
- 1:13:11containers. It's cars, computers, things
- 1:13:14that you'd see in a shop. That's been in
- 1:13:16substantial deficit for I think it
- 1:13:18opened up in in the uh it did open up in
- 1:13:21the early 1980s and essentially it
- 1:13:23hasn't it hasn't gone away since. And if
- 1:13:25anything has got wider and wider,
- 1:13:27>> foreign exchange reserves cannot be
- 1:13:29directly used for domestic spending.
- 1:13:32The money can only be spent abroad or on
- 1:13:35imports.
- 1:13:39A country with a large balance of trade
- 1:13:41deficit relies on its creditors to spend
- 1:13:44the imbalances acred in its own market.
- 1:13:48I mean there have been proposals in the
- 1:13:50past to try and create a mechanism uh
- 1:13:53for those imbalances to to match up. So
- 1:13:56Kanes for instance John Maynard Kanes uh
- 1:13:59at the end of the second world war his
- 1:14:00original proposal for what became Breton
- 1:14:03Woods and the set of institutions set up
- 1:14:05there like the IMF and the World Bank
- 1:14:07was that there will be a kind of
- 1:14:08international clearing union. uh this is
- 1:14:10particularly relating to to the trade
- 1:14:12side rather than the sort of the
- 1:14:13financial side directly. But the
- 1:14:15principle was that you know once trade
- 1:14:16balances had opened up everybody would
- 1:14:18bank through an international clearing
- 1:14:20bank uh and that would kind of force
- 1:14:22everyone to to eventually reconcile uh
- 1:14:25the imbalances that appeared in the real
- 1:14:26economy.
- 1:14:28>> But no such mechanism exists.
- 1:14:31The accumulated net trade imbalance for
- 1:14:34the UK is around800 billion pounds.
- 1:14:46In essence, what has happened is that
- 1:14:48over many years, some countries have had
- 1:14:50big trade surpluses and others big trade
- 1:14:52deficits. The countries with trade
- 1:14:54deficits have been spending more than
- 1:14:56they've been earning, so they've had to
- 1:14:58borrow from abroad. and they've been
- 1:15:00doing this year after year. Countries
- 1:15:03like that are the United States,
- 1:15:05ourselves, and some other countries in
- 1:15:07Europe. That cannot go on. And there are
- 1:15:10two ways in which this can come to an
- 1:15:12end. Either and we're seeing this in
- 1:15:14some other countries in Europe. If they
- 1:15:16can't find new ways to become
- 1:15:17competitive, then their ability to repay
- 1:15:20the debts is called into question.
- 1:15:22Another way of doing it which we
- 1:15:24followed is that we got a credible plan
- 1:15:26to repay our debts and the value of
- 1:15:28sterling has fallen by 25% to make our
- 1:15:31exports more competitive and attractive
- 1:15:33to overseas buyers and it to be more
- 1:15:36attractive for British consumers to buy
- 1:15:38from British producers rather than
- 1:15:40overseas producers. That is what we have
- 1:15:42done to put in place a framework to
- 1:15:45rebalance our economy. And I'm sure
- 1:15:46that's the right way to do it.
- 1:15:49Currency war, also known as competitive
- 1:15:52devaluation,
- 1:15:53is a condition where countries compete
- 1:15:55against each other to achieve a
- 1:15:57relatively low exchange rate for their
- 1:15:59currency. As the price to buy a
- 1:16:01particular currency falls, so too does
- 1:16:04the real price of exports from that
- 1:16:06country.
- 1:16:08Domestic industry receives a boost in
- 1:16:10demand both at home and abroad.
- 1:16:14>> It's made British exports appear rather
- 1:16:16cheaper. So they've kind of recovered a
- 1:16:18little bit but because the rest of the
- 1:16:20world is now looking really quite ropey
- 1:16:21they've started to fall back down again.
- 1:16:22So what we're looking at is something
- 1:16:24that that
- 1:16:25almost a kind of anarchy and in a way
- 1:16:28the increasing anarchy this is what's
- 1:16:30happened over the last few years where
- 1:16:31you the Brazilian finance minister has
- 1:16:33been most vocal about this uh talking
- 1:16:35about currency wars talking about the
- 1:16:38desire of national governments when
- 1:16:40confronted by a major recession. They
- 1:16:42think if we could export more, we can
- 1:16:44dig ourselves out of this recession. If
- 1:16:46we want to export more, we depreciate
- 1:16:48our currency. That makes holers cheaper.
- 1:16:50Everyone else buys them. We'll all be
- 1:16:52better off. Now, the issue here is that
- 1:16:54if you depreciate, it's like everybody
- 1:16:56else appreciates against you. Their
- 1:16:58stuff becomes more expensive. So,
- 1:17:00they're not too happy about that. They
- 1:17:01also want to depreciate. And this is
- 1:17:03where you can see a competitive round of
- 1:17:04devaluations breaking out. To decrease
- 1:17:07the value of its national currency, a
- 1:17:10national central bank sells reserve
- 1:17:12currency into the market.
- 1:17:15It creates this currency out of nothing
- 1:17:17by typing numbers into a computer.
- 1:17:33During the long phase of commodity
- 1:17:35money, the exchange rate would depend on
- 1:17:38the amount of gold, silver or copper
- 1:17:41contained in the coins of each country.
- 1:17:44Similarly, after the advent of paper
- 1:17:46money and the gold standard, the
- 1:17:49exchange rate depended on the amount of
- 1:17:51gold the government promised to pay the
- 1:17:53holder of the bank notes. These amounts
- 1:17:55did not vary greatly in the short term
- 1:17:58and as such exchange rates between
- 1:18:00currencies were relatively stable.
- 1:18:05After the second world war, currencies
- 1:18:07were pegged to the dollar and the dollar
- 1:18:09was backed by gold.
- 1:18:12This system came to an end in 1971.
- 1:18:15>> So we have a modern financial system
- 1:18:18where money is now chaotically
- 1:18:20organized. There is no exchange rate
- 1:18:23because there's no gold standard system
- 1:18:25to sustain. So we don't need it. In
- 1:18:27fact, we believe the market will resolve
- 1:18:29all of the problems of exchange. Whether
- 1:18:31your currency should be worth more than
- 1:18:32mine is a reflection of your economy
- 1:18:34relative to mine. And if that changes
- 1:18:37the currency and the exchange rate can
- 1:18:38change and if we need that to happen,
- 1:18:41it'll happen magically by the efficiency
- 1:18:42of market and profit seeking. And you
- 1:18:45guys know the rest. Think
- 1:18:48>> a currency's value in relation to
- 1:18:49another currency is determined by the
- 1:18:52market. If more people want to buy a
- 1:18:55currency than sell it, its value
- 1:18:57increases.
- 1:18:58If more people want to sell, its value
- 1:19:01decreases.
- 1:19:03The value is set by individual banks. As
- 1:19:06they buy and sell currencies, they will
- 1:19:09adjust the exchange rate. In the la last
- 1:19:12study I read in 2007
- 1:19:16each day on currency markets $3.2
- 1:19:19trillion dollar are traded each day. Who
- 1:19:24knows what the global GDP is?
- 1:19:28>> 50. Again, Brucey higher.
- 1:19:32>> 60. That's closer. The point is, think
- 1:19:34about that exchange happening every
- 1:19:37single day. There's about 260 business
- 1:19:40days a year. It takes a few weeks to
- 1:19:43match the global value of every economic
- 1:19:46transaction that happens everywhere,
- 1:19:50every day in a year. and it takes a few
- 1:19:53weeks.
- 1:19:54>> Obviously, all of us trade currency
- 1:19:56fairly fairly regularly. If you go
- 1:19:57abroad, you exchange into another
- 1:19:59currency. That's a form of currency
- 1:20:00trading. You're swapping your pounds
- 1:20:02into whatever euros or yen or whatever
- 1:20:05it might be. That happens fairly
- 1:20:07regularly and that's a conventional part
- 1:20:08of the trading process. Now, large
- 1:20:10corporations have to do this on a
- 1:20:12regular basis. where it becomes
- 1:20:14something that people question, where
- 1:20:16you get people saying, "Well, hang on.
- 1:20:18This is speculation." is when you get
- 1:20:19people realizing that currencies move
- 1:20:21around next to each other. And if they
- 1:20:23move around in value next to each other,
- 1:20:24there's always an opportunity to try and
- 1:20:26make money out of those changes in
- 1:20:27value. And therefore, you can speculate
- 1:20:29on it. And that's that's the more sort
- 1:20:31of questionable end of the market.
- 1:20:32That's the bit of the market that things
- 1:20:34like a financial transactions tax would
- 1:20:36try and chop away at because the
- 1:20:38assumption there and it's it's kind of
- 1:20:40not incorrect is that this just produces
- 1:20:42instability for everyone else that these
- 1:20:44people want volatility in the market
- 1:20:46because that's how they make their
- 1:20:47money. They want to encourage it and
- 1:20:48they do encourage it by uh trading and
- 1:20:51speculating in the way that they do.
- 1:20:53By 2010, the foreign exchange market had
- 1:20:57grown to be the largest and most liquid
- 1:20:59market in the world
- 1:21:01with an average of $4 trillion of
- 1:21:03currency being exchanged every day.
- 1:21:10Volatility creates a need. What does it
- 1:21:12do to countries especially perhaps small
- 1:21:16ones like developing countries if there
- 1:21:18are suddenly huge and instantly
- 1:21:22fluctuating financial flows? What do
- 1:21:25they have to do to cope
- 1:21:27>> production of the products that they're
- 1:21:29selling on the
- 1:21:30>> increase their production and sell more?
- 1:21:32>> Lowering the price of it,
- 1:21:33>> lowering the price
- 1:21:34>> and becoming possibly even poorer
- 1:21:36>> and becoming possibly even poorer. Once
- 1:21:38you start talking about the
- 1:21:38international system, it becomes really
- 1:21:40quite a peculiar uh quite peculiar thing
- 1:21:44in that a lot of it depends on simply
- 1:21:47sentiment and beliefs about what an
- 1:21:49economy is like rather more than depends
- 1:21:50on anything the economy might or might
- 1:21:52not actually be doing and that can shift
- 1:21:54very very rapidly because you know if if
- 1:21:55it's just somebody's belief about a
- 1:21:57currency is supportable uh then you know
- 1:21:59they can carry on believing this until
- 1:22:01well till whenever if that belief
- 1:22:02changes and can change very rapidly in a
- 1:22:05financial market the process of
- 1:22:07financial contagion can can take place,
- 1:22:09you know, in just minutes, seconds even,
- 1:22:11that you can just move from being
- 1:22:14apparently quite a stable, robust
- 1:22:17economy to being one that suddenly
- 1:22:20sentiment has turned against you and you
- 1:22:22find that markets are picking on you.
- 1:22:23And it can often be not much more than
- 1:22:25you're simply the next door neighbor of
- 1:22:28uh, you know, a country that's currently
- 1:22:29in trouble.
- 1:22:32Many of the world's financial crises in
- 1:22:34the past 30 years have been caused by
- 1:22:37rapid withdrawals of the nation's
- 1:22:38currency or the currencies of an entire
- 1:22:41region.
- 1:22:43This type of activity is often referred
- 1:22:45to as financial warfare.
- 1:22:50It's benefited uh major institutions
- 1:22:53really quite substantially that Goldman
- 1:22:55Sachs you for example or any large bank
- 1:22:57has done somewhat better out of this set
- 1:23:00of arrangements than it would have done
- 1:23:02in a far more regulated environment.
- 1:23:03It's made people very very wealthy. It's
- 1:23:06allowed financial markets to expand
- 1:23:07absolutely enormously. Anybody involved
- 1:23:10in that is keen on seeing a deregulated
- 1:23:12world. In the case of the UK, you have a
- 1:23:14government which has been quite overtly
- 1:23:17and deliberately and aggressively
- 1:23:19arguing against any forms of regulation
- 1:23:21being imposed on those financial
- 1:23:23markets. But it's not the case that
- 1:23:25someone's behind the scenes pulling the
- 1:23:26strings. It's it's that this is this is
- 1:23:28how the thing works quite deliberately,
- 1:23:30quite, you know, overly in front of you.
- 1:23:32That's the world as it is. It's making
- 1:23:33some people very rich. They're quite
- 1:23:35happy with it.
- 1:23:38>> I think it is a form of economic
- 1:23:40warfare. Um much of the the change in in
- 1:23:44the way that the global economy works
- 1:23:46over the last 30 years result from this
- 1:23:49this debt, this third world debt because
- 1:23:51it's given rich countries and banks and
- 1:23:55the financial sector enormous amounts of
- 1:23:57power and control over the poorer bits
- 1:24:00of the world where a lot of the
- 1:24:01resources are that we like using. And um
- 1:24:04that's been used in a way that many
- 1:24:06people have compared to a form of
- 1:24:08colonialism. It's a very real direct
- 1:24:11form of of power that's been used over
- 1:24:13those countries to force those countries
- 1:24:15to do what are really in the interests
- 1:24:18of the richest segments of the world
- 1:24:20that they do. And as a result of that um
- 1:24:22not only have corporations become
- 1:24:24absolutely uh in very you know made huge
- 1:24:27amounts of profits and become absolutely
- 1:24:29enormous and and um and all pervasive um
- 1:24:32but the financial sector has become even
- 1:24:34bigger than that. And the and the real
- 1:24:36money in in the world uh to be made
- 1:24:39today is not by producing anything at
- 1:24:41all. It's simply by forms of speculating
- 1:24:44basically making money from money. uh
- 1:24:46that's the most profitable and and by
- 1:24:48far and away um the the biggest form of
- 1:24:51of of activity of economic activity that
- 1:24:54exists in the world today.
- 1:24:56>> To protect themselves, vulnerable
- 1:24:58countries need to acrue currency from
- 1:25:00rich countries who create these
- 1:25:02currencies out of nothing.
- 1:25:06>> The Netherlands first governor general
- 1:25:07of Indonesia, the man who built the
- 1:25:10trade routes, fortified them. What I
- 1:25:12mean by that is built forts along them
- 1:25:14and fought Spanish fleets and British
- 1:25:16fleets. Said about the development of
- 1:25:19the spa of the of the Netherlands Empire
- 1:25:22and Netherlands trade was we cannot make
- 1:25:26trade without war nor war without trade
- 1:25:31money and power.
- 1:25:39So reserves have become the way in which
- 1:25:41you can insure yourself against what?
- 1:25:44Speculation. Who? You said speculation.
- 1:25:46Speculative attack.
- 1:25:48>> Fallen market.
- 1:25:49>> Fallen markets.
- 1:25:51>> Bubbles.
- 1:25:54>> When a country succumbs to a speculative
- 1:25:56attack, it is asked to deregulate its
- 1:25:58markets and conform its financial system
- 1:26:02to that of the dominant party.
- 1:26:06The big problem that's faced by most
- 1:26:08developing countries who've got into a
- 1:26:09debt crisis uh was that they were told
- 1:26:11by the powers that be in the world, the
- 1:26:13International Monetary Fund, um which is
- 1:26:15in many ways governs the the the global
- 1:26:17financial system that the way to get out
- 1:26:20of debt actually is first of all to to
- 1:26:22um restructure your economy especially
- 1:26:24to increase your exports so you're
- 1:26:26earning more more um dollars and then
- 1:26:28you can pay off your your debt which is
- 1:26:30normally in dollars or some other uh
- 1:26:31foreign currency. Um unfortunately time
- 1:26:34and time again that was proved to to not
- 1:26:36be the case at all. Actually countries
- 1:26:38cut back their public spending to the
- 1:26:40bone. So they stopped growing. They
- 1:26:42stopped having any potential um for
- 1:26:44growth. Um and what they did produce was
- 1:26:47was um was aimed at the export market.
- 1:26:49It was aimed at creating dollars and so
- 1:26:50on. So they were paying off their debts
- 1:26:52but they weren't uh developing their own
- 1:26:54economy at all. They were paying far far
- 1:26:56far more in debt repayments than they
- 1:26:58were spending on health or education or
- 1:26:59anything else. and their debts just kept
- 1:27:01getting bigger and bigger and bigger.
- 1:27:03>> The country becomes a vassal state,
- 1:27:05allowing large corporations to exploit
- 1:27:08its natural resources and workforce.
- 1:27:16It's not it's not even shadowy. You see,
- 1:27:18there's no great mystery about about
- 1:27:19what's happening here and about the way
- 1:27:20the world operates. It's like it's it's
- 1:27:22quite blunt. I mean, for for the last 30
- 1:27:24years, you've got something pretty much
- 1:27:26everywhere. certainly spreads pretty
- 1:27:28much everywhere that generally gets
- 1:27:29labeled neoliberalism. This idea that
- 1:27:32you should have floating exchange rates,
- 1:27:34you know, weak regulation, particular
- 1:27:36financial markets, minimal government
- 1:27:38interference or involvement with what
- 1:27:40market does. And that's that's more or
- 1:27:41less how the world operates. And then
- 1:27:43there are institutions and the
- 1:27:44outstanding one at this point is the IMF
- 1:27:46that they will actively try and enforce
- 1:27:48this state of affairs. So it's it's not
- 1:27:50greatly shadowy, if you see what I mean,
- 1:27:52that that there are people behind the
- 1:27:54scenes somewhere trying to manipulate
- 1:27:55stuff. is actually this is quite this is
- 1:27:56quite avert this this is happening and
- 1:27:58this is how uh for entire my entire
- 1:28:01adult life actually is what it starts to
- 1:28:03look like this is how the world world
- 1:28:05has operated and it's made some people
- 1:28:07very very wealthy it's produced enormous
- 1:28:09concentrations of wealth so when the
- 1:28:11international monetary fund comes in in
- 1:28:13order to try and uh alleviate a
- 1:28:15country's um debt problems it imposes a
- 1:28:18set of conditions and in the 1980s and
- 1:28:2090s they called that set of conditions
- 1:28:21structural adjustment structural
- 1:28:23adjustment program and it tends to take
- 1:28:25very similar forms wherever it happens.
- 1:28:27And indeed, we can see structural
- 1:28:28adjustment programs in essence happening
- 1:28:30today in countries like Greece and
- 1:28:31Portugal and Ireland. Um where countries
- 1:28:35are instructed to uh decrease the amount
- 1:28:38that they spend on the public sector. Um
- 1:28:42they are instructed to liberalize their
- 1:28:44their uh trade market and liberalize
- 1:28:47their capital market so money can much
- 1:28:50more easily come in and out of their
- 1:28:51economy. And the idea is that this will
- 1:28:54encourage investment to come in from
- 1:28:55richer parts of the world and that all
- 1:28:58of their problems will be solved from
- 1:29:00this investment. And in actual fact,
- 1:29:01this has proved um time and time again
- 1:29:03to be um completely without foundation.
- 1:29:06In actual fact, what happens is it
- 1:29:08destroys fledgling industries and
- 1:29:10capacities in these developing countries
- 1:29:12and developing countries become
- 1:29:13completely dependent on goods and
- 1:29:15services from developed countries and
- 1:29:17also from capital from developed
- 1:29:19countries. Uh, one of the things the
- 1:29:21International Monry Fund is very is very
- 1:29:23um keen on is um telling countries to
- 1:29:26lower the taxes um that should be paid
- 1:29:28by multinational corporations when they
- 1:29:29come and operate in a country because
- 1:29:31then you'll encourage more multinational
- 1:29:32corporations to come in. Of course, what
- 1:29:34it also means is the profits that are
- 1:29:36made by those multinational corporations
- 1:29:38leave the country just as quickly and
- 1:29:40the country itself doesn't benefit. And
- 1:29:42today you have many developing countries
- 1:29:44which have got um almost no tax base. um
- 1:29:46they've not developed a tax base at all
- 1:29:48and so they're even more dependent on
- 1:29:51international capital markets, on the
- 1:29:52money markets, on creating debt. Um and
- 1:29:55that's why you have so many countries in
- 1:29:57the world that have really been robbed
- 1:29:58of their sovereignty. It's very
- 1:30:00difficult to see how democratic
- 1:30:01societies can evolve or function when
- 1:30:04actually a government is more dependent
- 1:30:05on the dictats of the International
- 1:30:07Monetary Fund and the money markets than
- 1:30:09it is on their own people.
- 1:30:17What we've seen since the 1970s is a
- 1:30:20dramatic increase in a series of
- 1:30:22phenomena that have had a ser a
- 1:30:25stimulative effect on the changes in the
- 1:30:28financial system that have brought us to
- 1:30:29the gleaming shining metal and steel
- 1:30:32business that's over there. In case you
- 1:30:34don't know, that's the city of London
- 1:30:35I'm putting out. To compensate for the
- 1:30:38lack of a defined commodity-based value
- 1:30:41underlying currencies, financial
- 1:30:44institutions developed securitization
- 1:30:47as a means to manage risk.
- 1:30:50>> You know, you develop securitization as
- 1:30:52a means to try and stabilize the whole
- 1:30:54system. This is a set of financial
- 1:30:56processes and financial innovations that
- 1:30:58really accelerate from the 70s, 80s
- 1:31:01onwards.
- 1:31:01>> You had a chaotic system that needed to
- 1:31:04manage risk and you had to innovate. You
- 1:31:06needed derivatives, options, futures.
- 1:31:10You have new markets in volatility
- 1:31:13management tools. Who knows what the
- 1:31:14term hedging is?
- 1:31:16>> Spreading your risk.
- 1:31:16>> Spreading your risk, managing your risk,
- 1:31:18insuring against your risk. Precisely.
- 1:31:21Up until very recently, you know, up
- 1:31:23until the 1960s, the Securities and
- 1:31:25Exchange Commission would be quite clear
- 1:31:27that, you know, derivatives that weren't
- 1:31:29based on real products like agricultural
- 1:31:32products, so pork belly futures or
- 1:31:33whatever would in fact be essentially a
- 1:31:35kind of gambling and therefore you
- 1:31:37weren't allowed to trade them. That that
- 1:31:38changes in the '60s and everybody can
- 1:31:40trade, you know, uh currency futures,
- 1:31:44things that are not based on real
- 1:31:45products being traded at some point in
- 1:31:47the future, but are based on movements
- 1:31:48of of currency prices. Once you have the
- 1:31:51system of fixed exchange rates breaks
- 1:31:53down, obviously this thing accelerates
- 1:31:54enormously. So as you get the roll back
- 1:31:57of government regulation here, you get
- 1:31:59the market taking over with its own
- 1:32:00products here. And the theory is that
- 1:32:02the market's better at regulating
- 1:32:04itself. It's more stable than if you
- 1:32:06have a government interfering all the
- 1:32:07time. the efficient markets hypothesis.
- 1:32:09The idea that, you know, you set up a
- 1:32:11financial market, they're fast.
- 1:32:13Everybody in them is well informed. They
- 1:32:15all keep a very careful eye on what
- 1:32:16everyone else is doing. It will
- 1:32:17therefore uh be very stable and it
- 1:32:20reflect real changes in the economy.
- 1:32:21It's not going to be driven by, you
- 1:32:23know, panics and manas and speckers
- 1:32:26bubbles. None of this really going to
- 1:32:27happen. If if there is movement up and
- 1:32:29down, it's because something real is
- 1:32:31happening and traders and investors in
- 1:32:33the financial market are responding to
- 1:32:35it. That's the efficient markets
- 1:32:36hypothesis. the practice and I think
- 1:32:38what you see in 2008 is a kind of end of
- 1:32:40that process. The appearance of a crisis
- 1:32:43so major that the belief that it will
- 1:32:45simply be self-stabilizing and
- 1:32:47self-regulating really can't carry on. I
- 1:32:49mean the practice carries on anyway, but
- 1:32:51you can't really argue in the same way
- 1:32:52you used to that it's good or it's
- 1:32:54necessary or this is okay for the world.
- 1:33:00In the last decade, we had a new
- 1:33:01innovation, something called a credit
- 1:33:02default swap, a way of buying insurance
- 1:33:05against a company you've invested in
- 1:33:06going bust. And in 2002, they were less
- 1:33:11worth in total less than a trillion. In
- 1:33:142007, they were worth $60 trillion.
- 1:33:18That's 5 years.
- 1:33:21Everybody suddenly sitting there
- 1:33:22thinking, "Oh, these CDOS's we've made
- 1:33:25uh don't in fact provide the kind of
- 1:33:27stability that we thought. The maths
- 1:33:30that's inside of them is is complete
- 1:33:31nonsense." It turns out uh there's far
- 1:33:34more risk attached to um trying to
- 1:33:37securitize risk and securitize debt in
- 1:33:39the way that we have done this than we
- 1:33:41thought. And we think these things are
- 1:33:43now worthless.
- 1:33:46The attempt to get more and more complex
- 1:33:48ways of regulating and shaping a
- 1:33:50financial market and trying to make a
- 1:33:52quick book out of it as well actually
- 1:33:54helped produce the uh the opposite
- 1:33:57effect of what its kind of apologist
- 1:33:58said which is it led to led to a
- 1:34:00spectacular crash.
- 1:34:06What we saw as a result of this very
- 1:34:08different situation was one phenomenon
- 1:34:12above all, one sector above all grew and
- 1:34:15that was the financial sector.
- 1:34:18>> While the financial sector benefits
- 1:34:20enormously from the current monetary
- 1:34:22system, the system is neither stable nor
- 1:34:25fair. The assumption in what the Bank of
- 1:34:29England does right now is that the cash
- 1:34:32that we hold is backed up by government
- 1:34:34debt. The government can back up as
- 1:34:37promises by the fact that it can tax the
- 1:34:39public. So what they're implying is that
- 1:34:41cash is backed up by government debt
- 1:34:43when government debt is backed up by the
- 1:34:46ability of government to get cash from
- 1:34:47the public. Time and time again over the
- 1:34:49last 30 years we've seen uh private
- 1:34:52debts being transformed into into public
- 1:34:55debts and um the ultimately the price of
- 1:34:58that debt is paid by uh by the public in
- 1:35:01the in the data country.
- 1:35:04>> This is why spending cuts are necessary.
- 1:35:07The system is designed to make certain
- 1:35:09people very rich at the expense of a
- 1:35:11nation's citizens and taxpayers.
- 1:35:15The system lowers the standard of living
- 1:35:17of the majority and distributes this
- 1:35:20wealth among the privileged.
- 1:35:23So what we're left with is a financial
- 1:35:26system since the early '7s that has no
- 1:35:28fixed exchange rates that suddenly has
- 1:35:31increasingly open financial borders
- 1:35:35that has central banks having to manage
- 1:35:38without having any control because
- 1:35:40there's nothing here where the gold used
- 1:35:43to be. chaotically. They have to ease
- 1:35:47quantitatively. They have to lend as a
- 1:35:51lender of last resort. Throughout
- 1:35:53history, monetary systems were designed
- 1:35:56to give the dominant international power
- 1:35:59an advantage.
- 1:36:01And this power is fiercely defended and
- 1:36:03expanded on.
- 1:36:12and they flee in terror from an
- 1:36:14incredible bogey man.
- 1:36:18>> An American flag is burned at the height
- 1:36:19of the demonstration. Both President
- 1:36:21Johnson and Francisco Franco were
- 1:36:23vilified. A new low in public protest
- 1:36:26added strain on Spanishame relations.
- 1:36:32>> In the corner in the corner,
- 1:36:36>> I want Americans and all the world to
- 1:36:38know.
- 1:36:38>> Come on, fire. I want Americans and all
- 1:36:41the world to know America has no regard
- 1:36:44for conventions of war or rules of
- 1:36:47morality.
- 1:36:49>> In the car
- 1:36:51in the car in the car.
- 1:36:56Objection overruled.
- 1:37:11What I would like to see is um a a new
- 1:37:16kind of currency that is backed by uh
- 1:37:19something that that is scarce and that
- 1:37:21we really need and we really value
- 1:37:24something like energy or renewable
- 1:37:26energy for example. So a sort of
- 1:37:28kilowatth backed currency would be would
- 1:37:31be very interesting to me. We need to
- 1:37:33start valuing the things that are most
- 1:37:35scarce um and and that we need to
- 1:37:38survive as a human race in the long run.
- 1:37:41And backing an international currency
- 1:37:43with something like that will generate
- 1:37:45enormous investment in for example
- 1:37:48renewable energy if that's the you know
- 1:37:51the primary international
- 1:37:53um unit of account that's that's that's
- 1:37:56being used. Uh another option is is a
- 1:37:58basket of of currencies. So you you know
- 1:38:01you you mix up the value of of of
- 1:38:03different currencies um to to create a
- 1:38:06very solid currency that people have
- 1:38:09confidence in.
- 1:38:12>> Perhaps even better would be a basket of
- 1:38:14commodities with which to back up
- 1:38:16international currencies.
- 1:38:19Now, if it was possible internationally
- 1:38:22some way or another to get all these
- 1:38:23competing and increasingly competing
- 1:38:25national economies together and say, uh,
- 1:38:28we're all going to sit down and write
- 1:38:30out an agreement somewhat like the
- 1:38:31Breton Woods agreement which will allow
- 1:38:33for, unlike Breton Woods, allow for, you
- 1:38:36know, some currencies to to be pegged
- 1:38:38against different baskets of goods that
- 1:38:39are more appropriate to to their
- 1:38:41national economies. And you can sort of
- 1:38:43arrange this. If you could arrange that
- 1:38:45to happen, then that would be nice. And
- 1:38:47you can see how that would start to
- 1:38:48create a kind of order in the
- 1:38:50international macroeconomy which is
- 1:38:51otherwise lacking. The real difficulty
- 1:38:53there is just political. It's like who
- 1:38:55on earth is going to do this? Who who is
- 1:38:57the force that's going to kind of make
- 1:38:59this thing happen?
- 1:39:02>> Creating a monetary system which is both
- 1:39:04fair and stable is possible and can be
- 1:39:07achieved.
- 1:39:09What are international organizations for
- 1:39:13if not for such a purpose?
- 1:39:21[Music]
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