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- 0:00- Could the CIA really track your heartbeat
- 0:02from kilometers away?
- 0:03On April 3rd, 2026,
- 0:05Iranian forces shot down an American fighter plane
- 0:08just over Isfahan.
- 0:10Inside were a pilot and a weapon system officer,
- 0:13and both ejected successfully.
- 0:16The US forces located the pilot quickly
- 0:18and rescued him only seven hours after the crash,
- 0:22but they couldn't rescue the weapon system officer.
- 0:24He landed elsewhere deep within hostile territory.
- 0:27And, worst of all, he was injured.
- 0:30With the Iranian forces on his tail,
- 0:32the officer needed to hide quickly,
- 0:33so he disappeared into the mountains.
- 0:39to rescue an aviator buried deep behind enemy lines.
- 0:43- Fortunately, the officer had a rescue beacon
- 0:45that could signal his location to the US.
- 0:48The problem was that he not only had to step out
- 0:50of his hiding spot to transmit the signal,
- 0:52Iran could potentially intercept it and get to him first.
- 0:55So he could only use the beacon sparingly.
- 0:57With enemy forces getting closer every hour,
- 1:00how is the US going to pinpoint his location
- 1:08in the middle of a desert.
- 1:09- [Gregor] A blind sweep of the entire area could take days
- 1:11or even weeks,
- 1:13but, surprisingly, just 40 hours after the crash,
- 1:15the US announced the officer was rescued.
- 1:18- Still invisible to the enemy, but not to the CIA.
- 1:21- So how did they do it?
- 1:24Well, according to a New York Post article,
- 1:26the CIA deployed a futuristic device to rescue him.
- 1:29Reportedly they were able to detect the magnetic field
- 1:31produced by his heartbeat from kilometers away.
- 1:35Such a device would have to overcome the magnetic signatures
- 1:37from other soldiers, vehicles, and animals in the region,
- 1:40let alone Earth's magnetic field.
- 1:43It's like listening for a murmur in a crowd.
- 1:46So the technology was appropriately called Ghost Murmur.
- 1:51Immediately this kicked off a media frenzy.
- 1:53- Ghost Murmur.
- 1:54- This is science fiction. - Ghost Murmur.
- 1:56- Did you hear about what the CIA tech that they have
- 1:59called the Ghost Murmur.
- 2:00- Called the Ghost Murmur.
- 2:01- All of this sounds too good to be true,
- 2:03and there seemed to be no other sources
- 2:04beyond this New York Post article.
- 2:06So we dug deep to find out whether this supposed technology
- 2:10really exists and what its limits are.
- 2:12- I very rarely believe things I read in the New York Post.
- 2:17- Okay.
- 2:17- I find it extremely difficult to believe.
- 2:19- Many of these researchers in the NV diamond area,
- 2:22are having to sign NDAs.
- 2:23- The fact that the CIA is involved
- 2:25in leveraging technologies
- 2:27consistent with their mission and their charter.
- 2:29- So is Ghost Murmur fact or fiction?
- 2:34There are two lines in this New York Post article
- 2:36that hint at what this device can be.
- 2:38First, normally this signal is so weak
- 2:41that it can only be measured in a hospital setting
- 2:43with sensors pressed nearly against the chest,
- 2:46the source said.
- 2:47But advances in a field known as quantum magnetometry,
- 2:50specifically sensors built around microscopic defects
- 2:53in synthetic diamonds,
- 2:55have apparently made it possible
- 2:56to detect these signals at dramatically greater distances.
- 3:01We're gonna break this down bit by bit.
- 3:03First, does the heart actually create
- 3:05detectable magnetic fields?
- 3:07Second, what are these synthetic diamonds
- 3:09that could potentially detect them?
- 3:11And third, is it all possible at these distances?
- 3:15Let's start with a heart.
- 3:16Now, if you type heart magnetic field into Google Images,
- 3:19you will get a bunch of questionable-looking graphs.
- 3:24So is it a real thing?
- 3:26Well, whenever current flows through a conductor,
- 3:28it generates a magnetic field around it.
- 3:31And since our bodies run on electrical impulses
- 3:33traveling through neurons,
- 3:35our tissues and organs generate faint magnetic signals.
- 3:38But because the heart muscles fire in a coordinated way,
- 3:41the magnetic field they produce is
- 3:43the strongest in the body.
- 3:45It's around 50 to 100 pico Teslas,
- 3:4810 to 100 times more
- 3:49than the next strongest field produced by the brain.
- 3:53But even then, this is still a million times weaker
- 3:55than Earth's magnetic field.
- 3:57So it's no surprise that we only detected
- 3:59the magnetic field of the heart in 1963.
- 4:03It had to be done in a remote field
- 4:05away from the magnetic noise
- 4:06produced by lab equipment, elevators, and cars.
- 4:09And the setup had to be incredibly still.
- 4:12Even the slightest vibration
- 4:13of the detector would corrupt the measurement,
- 4:15not something that could work on a helicopter
- 4:17or a military drone.
- 4:19But, pretty soon, magnetometers got better.
- 4:22By the 1970s,
- 4:24we got superconducting quantum interference devices,
- 4:26or SQUIDs.
- 4:28These magnetometers were incredibly sensitive,
- 4:30detecting fields as weak as a few femto Tesla.
- 4:33To no surprise,
- 4:34the US military quickly strapped these SQUIDs
- 4:37to planes and helicopters,
- 4:38and they tried to use them
- 4:39to detect large magnetic signatures
- 4:41like submarines in the ocean.
- 4:44But the project never really picked up.
- 4:46Nonetheless, SQUIDs also made it easier
- 4:49to detect the heart's magnetic field, but with a key caveat.
- 4:52- They typically need to be operated
- 4:55under a very tightly controlled conditions,
- 4:58often inside of shielded rooms.
- 4:59They can't handle large dynamic range of background fields
- 5:03and electromagnetic interference.
- 5:04- Future magnetometers offered solutions,
- 5:07but they also had their own drawbacks.
- 5:09There were always issues with either shielding
- 5:11or sensitivity or dynamic range that made them impractical
- 5:15for detecting heartbeats out in the field.
- 5:18Until the 1990s when physicists started
- 5:21looking into diamonds that might eventually be able
- 5:23to sense magnetic fields
- 5:25while potentially getting around the drawbacks.
- 5:28- These new quantum magnetometers work
- 5:31at room temperature operation,
- 5:33and that's what's really exciting about them.
- 5:35They're also a solid state sensor,
- 5:37which, you know, can be very practical for some applications
- 5:41and can be made into like a more robust kind of sensor.
- 5:45- These are the diamonds
- 5:46mentioned in the New York Post article.
- 5:48So how do they work?
- 5:51Now, the overall coverage of the story is
- 5:53actually very interesting
- 5:54because this tech is supposedly classified.
- 5:57There's a lot of uncertainty
- 5:58about whether what's being reported is actually real.
- 6:01And depending on which outlet you see first,
- 6:03you might arrive at completely different conclusions.
- 6:05For example, if you saw this headline first,
- 6:07you might be really impressed with the technology,
- 6:10but this one you'd be a bit more skeptical,
- 6:12and the last one might not even make you care
- 6:14about the tech.
- 6:15So three headlines, three completely different conclusions,
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- 7:33and now let's go figure out
- 7:34how those diamonds actually detect magnetic fields.
- 7:37Well, for something to function as a magnetometer,
- 7:40it needs to respond to a magnetic field
- 7:41in a way that we can detect.
- 7:43Now, a pure diamond is just an ordered lattice
- 7:46of carbon atoms,
- 7:47so it doesn't react to magnetic fields in a meaningful way.
- 7:50But this changes
- 7:51when you start adding defects to the lattice.
- 7:54You can replace one of the carbon atoms in the lattice
- 7:56with, say, a nitrogen.
- 7:58And if you remove one of the carbons next to it completely,
- 8:01well, that creates a vacancy.
- 8:03This defect is called a nitrogen vacancy or an NV center.
- 8:08And these NV centers become particularly useful
- 8:11when they trap two unpaired electrons.
- 8:14That's because electrons have
- 8:16this intrinsic property called spin.
- 8:18A simple and flawed analogy is
- 8:20that spin is kind of like a tiny bar magnet
- 8:22that gives electrons their own magnetic signature
- 8:25and it can point either up or down.
- 8:28So when an electron is exposed
- 8:29to an external magnetic field,
- 8:32this magnetic signature will either align itself
- 8:34with the field or against it.
- 8:36Also note that particles that have no net spin
- 8:39will not respond to an external magnetic field.
- 8:43Now, the two trapped electrons can arrange their spins
- 8:45in the following way.
- 8:47They could both point up,
- 8:49which would give you a spin magnetic number of 1.
- 8:52They could both point down for a quantum number of -1,
- 8:56or they could point in opposite directions
- 8:58for a quantum number of 0.
- 9:00We'll denote this spin magnetic quantum number with ms,
- 9:04and it essentially acts as a bar magnet
- 9:06for the whole NV center.
- 9:08And just like for individual electrons,
- 9:10this bar magnet is also sensitive
- 9:13to external magnetic fields.
- 9:15So now that we've created a diamond
- 9:17that responds to magnetic fields, the challenge is,
- 9:20how do we measure this response to detect a heartbeat?
- 9:25Okay, so I reached out to experts
- 9:27to try and figure this out,
- 9:29but basically out of the 20 or so emails that I sent,
- 9:31I only got a few responses,
- 9:32but then I got an impromptu call from one of these experts
- 9:35who said that many of these researchers
- 9:37in the NV diamond area are having to sign NDAs.
- 9:40This is getting a lot more interesting.
- 9:42But with how secretive everyone was being,
- 9:43I had to use publicly available research.
- 9:46And I think the key idea is to figure out
- 9:49how diamonds respond to magnetic fields,
- 9:51you have to use light.
- 9:53When you shine light at an atom,
- 9:55the atom can either absorb the light or ignore it.
- 9:58An absorbed photon of light will excite an electron
- 10:00within the atom to a higher energy level.
- 10:03You can think of these energy levels as discrete platforms
- 10:06that the electrons can jump between,
- 10:07just like in a video game.
- 10:09All atoms of the same element, for example, carbon,
- 10:12have the same energy levels
- 10:14when the atoms are far enough apart.
- 10:16But when you bring them together,
- 10:18like inside a diamond lattice, their energy levels shift.
- 10:21They come together to form a series
- 10:23of closely spaced energy levels or an energy band.
- 10:27Now, an electron will only ever absorb a photon
- 10:31if the photon has enough energy
- 10:32to move the electron across the gap to a higher band.
- 10:36This gap between the last electron occupied band
- 10:39and the first empty band above it is called the band gap.
- 10:43In a pure diamond, it's big.
- 10:45It's around 5.5 electron volts,
- 10:47which means that only ultraviolet photons have enough energy
- 10:51to excite the electrons.
- 10:53All lower energy light, including visible light,
- 10:55will mostly be ignored by the diamond and just pass through.
- 10:58This is why a perfect pure diamond is transparent.
- 11:02It doesn't absorb any of the light,
- 11:03but if you start adding defects,
- 11:05they disrupt that organized lattice.
- 11:08The defects unlock different energy levels.
- 11:10Secret platforms within this band gap
- 11:12for nearby electrons to jump to.
- 11:15A boron defect, for example,
- 11:16creates a low energy level at only 0.37 electron volts.
- 11:21This is a platform that electrons can jump to
- 11:23by absorbing infrared or red light.
- 11:25And with enough boron defects,
- 11:27a significant amount of red light gets absorbed this way.
- 11:31The rest of the visible spectrum mostly makes it through.
- 11:34So without this red, the diamond appears blue.
- 11:37Similarly, a nitrogen vacancy defect unlocks
- 11:40other secret platforms.
- 11:42And these can help us detect
- 11:43how the NV center responds to a magnetic field.
- 11:47At first glance, it looks like the nitrogen vacancy
- 11:50generates a few unique levels,
- 11:51and these are exclusive
- 11:53to the two unpaired electrons trapped within the defect.
- 11:56But if you look closer at, for example, the lowest level,
- 12:00you'll notice that it actually contains
- 12:02three closely spaced but separate energy levels.
- 12:05The second and third levels are actually at the same height,
- 12:08but will draw them separately.
- 12:10And the fact that there are three isn't a coincidence.
- 12:13Remember, the NV center can adopt one of three ms numbers,
- 12:170, -1, or 1,
- 12:19depending on how the spins
- 12:21of the two electrons inside are arranged.
- 12:23If you think of the two spins as bar magnets,
- 12:26the most relaxed, lowest energy way for them to sit is this,
- 12:30one pointing up and the other down.
- 12:33This is analogous to the ms = 0 state,
- 12:35which is why it has the lowest energy.
- 12:38Forcing both magnets to point down together or up together,
- 12:41like the ms = 1 or -1 states requires more energy.
- 12:45They oppose you.
- 12:47So these two states are
- 12:48at an equal, slightly higher energy sub level.
- 12:51These differences are tiny.
- 12:53Jumping from the 0 to the +/-1 levels requires
- 12:55only a small amount of energy.
- 12:57A microwave photon of 10.4 centimeters will be enough.
- 13:01Now, these secret energy platforms
- 13:03of NV centers were mapped out by the '90s.
- 13:06But for a long time,
- 13:07no one thought to use them as magnetometers.
- 13:09- There was a decade before the light bulb went on
- 13:12for a bunch of us to think about them as sensors.
- 13:14It takes a mindset switch to think differently.
- 13:17And once you do, you realize,
- 13:18"Oh my goodness, this could be useful."
- 13:21- So let's apply a magnetic field to this diamond
- 13:24and see what happens.
- 13:25If we slowly turn up the field strength,
- 13:28you'll see that the +1 and -1 levels are starting to shift.
- 13:32To understand why,
- 13:33we can use a compass needle as an analogy.
- 13:36Naturally, a compass needle will align itself
- 13:38with the magnetic field of the Earth.
- 13:41And this is the lowest energy relaxed state
- 13:44that the needle can be in.
- 13:46And it's analogous to the behavior of the system
- 13:48in the ms = -1 state,
- 13:51which is why its energy level drops slightly.
- 13:54But if ms = 1, the system flips.
- 13:57This would be like taking an external magnet
- 14:00and applying it to this compass needle,
- 14:02flipping it 180 degrees.
- 14:04And then if I'm careful in retracting this magnet,
- 14:07I can actually get the needle to stay in this place.
- 14:11And this is the highest energy this needle can have
- 14:14sitting in this unstable position.
- 14:17Now if I tap it, it will actually go back.
- 14:19It's possible, but it's a higher energy state.
- 14:22So the ms = 1 level slightly rises.
- 14:26And if ms = 0, it doesn't react to the field,
- 14:28which is why this level hasn't changed.
- 14:31Now, if you keep turning up the magnetic field strength,
- 14:34you'll notice that the levels get further and further apart.
- 14:37This phenomenon is called Zeeman splitting.
- 14:39It's described by a simple formula
- 14:41that gives you a direct link between the energy split
- 14:44and the magnetic field strength.
- 14:46So in the presence of a periodic magnetic field
- 14:48like that generated by the heart,
- 14:50we would theoretically see a rhythmic separation
- 14:53of these lines.
- 14:55And these two energy levels absorb light
- 14:57at two different microwave wavelengths,
- 15:00which change depending on the strength of the field.
- 15:03So what we can actually measure is
- 15:05which microwave wavelengths the diamond is absorbing.
- 15:08When there's no magnetic field,
- 15:09the levels are fused and produce a single absorption line
- 15:12at the wavelength of 10.4 centimeters.
- 15:15But when there's an external magnetic field,
- 15:17they produce two separate absorption lines.
- 15:20Now, we've simplified it a bit,
- 15:22but by measuring how spaced apart these lines are,
- 15:25you get the field strength.
- 15:27This is how an NV diamond magnetometer works.
- 15:30Was the diamond magnetometer ever used
- 15:32to detect a heartbeat?
- 15:33- So what has been done for sure is, you know,
- 15:35for certain is detection
- 15:37of magnetic fields generated by neurons.
- 15:39Yeah, I mean, which is to some extent connected
- 15:42to the heartbeat question.
- 15:44Neuron activity, to my knowledge,
- 15:45has been first seen in 2015.
- 15:48- Okay, well, that's, wow, that's impressive.
- 15:52So could it pick up a heartbeat from kilometers away?
- 15:55Well, in 2022, researchers were able
- 15:57to pick up the magnetic field of a rat's heart,
- 16:00but it was done using a thoracotomy,
- 16:02which means the rat's chest was open
- 16:04and the diamond was less than two millimeters away
- 16:06from the heart.
- 16:08Okay, but the human heart produces
- 16:10a stronger magnetic field.
- 16:11And the tech, the CIA might have deployed,
- 16:13could be decades ahead of what is publicly known.
- 16:16You're former CIA operations officer
- 16:18and you've worked in the Middle East, right?
- 16:21So what was your first reaction to this news?
- 16:24- Well, the fact that the CIA's involved
- 16:27in leveraging technology is consistent
- 16:30with their mission and their charter.
- 16:32But I defer to smarter people in engineering
- 16:34and science like yourself
- 16:35to figure out the exact technique that might be used.
- 16:39But the processes, of course, are consistent
- 16:41for what we've done.
- 16:42- We can't say for sure whether the CIA has this tech,
- 16:45but we can use physics to estimate
- 16:46how sensitive it would need to be.
- 16:49Well, the strength of a magnetic field falls off
- 16:51with the cube of the distance from the source.
- 16:54So if the magnetic field of the heart
- 16:55when measured at the chest is 50 pico Tesla,
- 16:59or 5 times 10 to the -11 Tesla,
- 17:01well, then just 100 meters away,
- 17:04this falls off by a factor of a billion
- 17:06to 5 times 10 to the -20 Tesla.
- 17:09And at 50 to 100 kilometers,
- 17:11this could drop to as little as 10 to the -30 Tesla.
- 17:15- The most sensitive measurement ever made
- 17:18at the frequencies that the human heartbeat work at is
- 17:22at the 10 to the -15 Tesla level.
- 17:25And that's in a shielded room.
- 17:27So you'd need a system
- 17:29that is 15 orders of magnitude more sensitive
- 17:32than the superconducting quantum interference devices
- 17:36and 18 orders of magnitude more sensitive
- 17:40than diamond NV sensors.
- 17:43- 18 orders of magnitude is a lot, sounds quite unfeasible.
- 17:47- It's not like the hills of Iran are devoid of animal life.
- 17:52They also have heartbeats
- 17:54and possibly larger hearts than humans.
- 17:56- There's also the magnetic field of the drone
- 17:59or the helicopter the device might be mounted on.
- 18:02And, finally, there's the fact
- 18:03that a magnetic field of 10 to the -30 Tesla is weaker
- 18:07than a magnetic field an electron will give you
- 18:10a meter away.
- 18:11- The New York Post is notoriously a very good place
- 18:15for amusing fiction.
- 18:16- On the day before we saw this article,
- 18:20we also saw an article
- 18:21about how they had a technology where it was a beeper.
- 18:28and that was one way that they were able to detect him.
- 18:34And these are things that we know about already.
- 18:37We also know that there may well have been
- 18:40other intelligence methods used,
- 18:44but this isn't really necessary.
- 18:45- And then that brings you to the point of like,
- 18:48why would they make this up?
- 18:50- I think New York Post is known to print a lot of stuff.
- 18:53- I'm not a real fan of the credibility
- 18:57of the press to report things,
- 18:59having seen reality and then seeing what the press reports.
- 19:02- How about deception stories
- 19:04and like false narratives published by not only the CIA,
- 19:07but other agencies?
- 19:09Is this often the case?
- 19:11- If you look historically,
- 19:12the idea of fooling your enemy,
- 19:15particularly when you have some vulnerability to protect,
- 19:19goes back thousands of years.
- 19:20- During World War II,
- 19:22German bombers frequently attacked Britain at night.
- 19:25And to retaliate, the British would fly up to intercept
- 19:27and somehow kept finding these bombers in the dark
- 19:30and would attack them.
- 19:32Now, UK officials told the press
- 19:33that the pilots were able to do this
- 19:35because they ate a lot of carrots,
- 19:37which was improving their vision at night.
- 19:39But some experts believe
- 19:41that this was actually a cover story
- 19:42meant to distract the Germans
- 19:44from the fact the British installed radars on their planes.
- 19:47- Is that where the idea
- 19:49that carrots give you good eyesight comes from?
- 19:52- I think so.
- 19:53I think this is the original, yeah, the original myth.
- 19:55- That is crazy. - Yeah.
- 19:57- But, okay, there's one thing that still bothers me.
- 20:00If this is likely fake,
- 20:02then why is everyone saying no comment
- 20:04and declining to talk?
- 20:06There must be something here, you know?
- 20:08- Well, these NV centers and diamonds are also used
- 20:10for quantum computing.
- 20:11But the more interesting,
- 20:13probably confidential way they could be used is
- 20:16as navigation devices.
- 20:17The Earth's magnetic field creates a unique pattern
- 20:21all across the globe.
- 20:22- Then to place an object into this map,
- 20:26and if you know all of these perturbations
- 20:30and in homogeneities,
- 20:31you can infer where you are
- 20:33without having any GPS reception anymore.
- 20:36- With the rise of GPS spoofing
- 20:39and jamming over the last couple of years,
- 20:41that could be incredibly powerful.
- 20:43So NV magnetometers do exist with these synthetic diamonds,
- 20:47and they do have potential military applications.
- 20:50It's just that detecting heartbeats kilometers away
- 20:53probably isn't one of them.
- 20:58I wanna give a shout-out
- 20:59to a great Scientific American article
- 21:01on this story by Deni Béchard
- 21:03that initially expressed skepticism in Ghost Murmur
- 21:06as a potential technology.
- 21:08It's a great read and you check it out.
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