The CIA Hack To Achieve More in 1 Week than Most People Do in 12 months — Transcript
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- 0:00It's a mind-bending, life-changing story
- 0:02for me. I had a senior officer who
- 0:04always carried four dominoes in his
- 0:06pocket. Just standard dominoes. He
- 0:08always carried them in his pocket.
- 0:10Whenever he got to his desk, he would
- 0:11stack them on his desk. Um, two dominoes
- 0:14next to each other and then two dominoes
- 0:16on top, right? So, kind of like in a
- 0:18criss-cross pattern. And he always had
- 0:21them with him. Well, one day I was in
- 0:22there um and I sat with him and I asked
- 0:25him, I was like, "Why do you carry these
- 0:26dominoes? Like, what? There it's extra
- 0:29weight. They're awkward. You know, they
- 0:31jingle when you walk down the hallway.
- 0:33Why would you carry these things? And
- 0:35then he sat them up and and he uh he
- 0:38told me, "Most people go through life
- 0:42knocking out tasks or to-dos like this."
- 0:46And he set each of the dominoes up
- 0:48facing him, but in a row from left to
- 0:51right. And then he flicked the domino on
- 0:53the left and knocked it over. And then
- 0:55he flicked the next one and knocked it
- 0:57over. and the next one and the next one
- 0:58and he knocked all four dominoes over
- 1:00with four flicks of his finger. Right?
- 1:02He said that's how most people go
- 1:03through life. If you want to succeed in
- 1:06espionage, he said you have to stack the
- 1:08dominoes differently. So then he put
- 1:10them in a line the way that we all put
- 1:12the dominoes in line when we're kids,
- 1:14right? One in front of the other but all
- 1:18but with only the first one facing him.
- 1:20And then he flicked over the first one.
- 1:22And then the falling domino knocked over
- 1:24the next domino which knocked over the
- 1:26next domino which knocked over the next
- 1:27domino. So he was basically
- 1:29demonstrating how the average person
- 1:32will go through life using four times as
- 1:35much energy to get the same four tasks
- 1:38accomplished as a smart person who puts
- 1:41the things in the correct order. And a
- 1:45light bulb went off for me because in
- 1:47espionage and when you're spying in a
- 1:49foreign country, when you're trying to
- 1:51steal secrets that aren't supposed to be
- 1:53stolen, there's an order that you have
- 1:56to accomplish tasks. you you can either
- 2:00put a lot of effort into each step and
- 2:02then by the end of the operation your
- 2:05resources are spent and you don't know
- 2:06if you're going to be successful or you
- 2:09can do things in a certain order where
- 2:11they grow momentum with each task and
- 2:15then you're saving yourself energy,
- 2:16you're saving yourself resources, you're
- 2:18making momentum work for you. And ever
- 2:22since then, I mean, my operational
- 2:25behavior changed, my operational tempo
- 2:27changed, my success at CIA changed. I
- 2:29took that same concept and brought it
- 2:31into the business world when I left CIA.
- 2:34And I mean, my business has grown 300%
- 2:36year-over-year for the last four years.
- 2:38And I the only thing I can credit that
- 2:40to is I I do the same tasks that
- 2:43everybody else has to do. I just put
- 2:46them in a certain order so that when I
- 2:49flip the first domino, I get the
- 2:51momentum of each falling domino to help
- 2:54with my end goal. I really find I think
- 2:57that's amazing. Um I always for some
- 3:01reason I always both my wife and I we
- 3:04always look backwards. We always think
- 3:06about okay this is the result. We have a
- 3:09million things going on. Um just result
- 3:12so how do we get there? blank space,
- 3:16right? Like completely, you got to go
- 3:18completely. You got to know the box, but
- 3:19then you got to be completely out of the
- 3:21box and observe it. No rules. Let's say
- 3:25there's no rules, nothing, but this is
- 3:26where I got to get to. So, how are we
- 3:28going to get there? So, I love I love
- 3:30what you're saying really. Uh, you know,
- 3:33I always say, you know, she went to like
- 3:35Ivy League school and I say Ivy League
- 3:39is mastering most of the time, you know,
- 3:42the book, the box. Yeah, you got to do
- 3:45that. But then you also have to have
- 3:48critical thinking and that's why I tell
- 3:50teach my kids who said so in everything,
- 3:53right? Constantly because that's what
- 3:56business is, right? You're constantly
- 3:58pivoting. But tell us a little bit about
- 4:00everyday spy. tell us a little bit about
- 4:02your business. Yeah, so my business,
- 4:04Everyday Spy, is uh it's it's my
- 4:06personal mission, right? And our mission
- 4:08is to teach spy skills that break
- 4:11barriers to anyone willing to learn. And
- 4:14I love that mission because it's it's
- 4:17specific that it applies to anyone who's
- 4:19willing to learn. If you're not willing
- 4:21to learn, you can go to hell. If you
- 4:23don't like spy skills, you can go to
- 4:25hell. If you don't have barriers to
- 4:27break, then you're lying to yourself and
- 4:30you can go to hell. I don't have any
- 4:31time for people who aren't part of my
- 4:34mission. But when it comes to breaking
- 4:36barriers, the truth is that we all have
- 4:39so many barriers in so many different
- 4:41areas of our life that we often times
- 4:44don't stop to realize how they're all
- 4:46related. In in an undercover world, the
- 4:49most dangerous thing about an undercover
- 4:51operation is not the operation itself.
- 4:54It's not going in and taking down Osama
- 4:57bin Laden. That's not the most dangerous
- 4:59part. It's not the helicopter ride
- 5:00undercover of dark. It's not the
- 5:02underwater scuba dive ride. It's not
- 5:04the, you know, it's not the moment when
- 5:06you sit with the with the warlord uh at
- 5:09the Jurga table. Those things are not
- 5:12the most dangerous part. It's everything
- 5:14else about living undercover. It's the
- 5:18risk of signing the wrong name on a
- 5:20receipt when you go out to dinner. It's
- 5:22the risk of a cab driver finding out
- 5:24your home address. It's the risk of not
- 5:27tying your shoes the appropriate way and
- 5:29then when you need it, they come untied
- 5:31and you trip. That's the kind of stuff
- 5:33that is the most dangerous to us because
- 5:35we rehearse the operation dozens upon
- 5:38dozens upon dozens of times. Like it
- 5:41it's incredible the amount of rehearsal
- 5:43that goes into a live operation, but
- 5:45there's no rehearsal that goes into
- 5:47waking up and going downstairs and
- 5:49stepping out and making a phone call and
- 5:51catching an Uber. There's no rehearsal
- 5:53that goes into that. So the probability
- 5:55of you making a mistake is so much
- 5:57higher in everyday life. So CIA spends
- 6:0190% of their money and time training its
- 6:04operatives to handle everyday life
- 6:07undercover. And it spends 10% of its
- 6:10money and time training undercover
- 6:12officers to actually operate because
- 6:15they know that the rehearsal and the
- 6:18practice and the rope memorization is
- 6:20going to make the operation a success.
- 6:22But that person is going to die, you
- 6:25know, crossing the street in Korea
- 6:27because they don't know to look both
- 6:29ways on the center lane, which is where
- 6:31the buses can drive without stopping. So
- 6:34they have to spend all this time
- 6:35training us about everyday life. And and
- 6:38those skills are what transformed my
- 6:42career. And then those are the skills
- 6:44that when I left CIA, I was shocked to
- 6:47see people didn't know how to get a free
- 6:49cup of coffee. You don't know how to
- 6:50negotiate your bill. You don't know how
- 6:52to, you know, make somebody disarm
- 6:54somebody from being defensive to being
- 6:57friendly. Those are those are for me
- 6:59those are very natural basic skills. So,
- 7:00Everyday Spy is my outlet for teaching
- 7:03people all of the cool not unclassified
- 7:06stuff that CIA did without having to
- 7:10risk any of the actual secrets that keep
- 7:12us safe. How do people learn like what's
- 7:15the actual process of people learning
- 7:17their secret superpower? I know you talk
- 7:19about that a lot. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So,
- 7:22uh CIA hires people for because
- 7:24everybody has an inter in uh inherent
- 7:27talent. There's something inside all of
- 7:29us uh that gives us an edge against
- 7:32other human beings and that inherent
- 7:34edge is generally tied to your
- 7:36personality type and then from your
- 7:39personality type it's then tied even
- 7:41further to your personal experience in
- 7:43life. So there might be multiple people
- 7:45who are extroverts but one extrovert
- 7:47grew up in a rich family, another
- 7:49extrovert grew up in a broke family.
- 7:51Another extrovert grew up with no mom
- 7:53and dad. Another extrovert grew up with
- 7:55gay parents. whatever it might be. So
- 7:58it's not just about understanding your
- 8:00personality, it's also about
- 8:01understanding the conditions in which
- 8:03your personality was cultivated, was
- 8:06raised. So in when everyday spy goes
- 8:09through the process of teaching people
- 8:10their superpower, what we look at is
- 8:13both how they respond personalitywise,
- 8:17but also how their personal experience,
- 8:20their upbringing shaped their
- 8:22personality. And once you combine those
- 8:24two things together, you have a really
- 8:25solid idea of what strengths and what
- 8:28weaknesses an individual inherently has.
- 8:31And you also talk about, you know, that
- 8:34people should stop living by other
- 8:35people's rules, which I love. Um, and
- 8:39that really t I think that really takes
- 8:40courage. I mean, in absolutely in in
- 8:43society, how do you really get
- 8:45comfortable being I guess your true um
- 8:50your true self? So I would say you're
- 8:53you're if if you feel comfortable,
- 8:55you're probably not being your true self
- 8:58because we live in a world where
- 9:00conformity is king. If you want to get
- 9:03along, like if you want to get ahead,
- 9:06we have we're a society that's built on
- 9:08you have to get along. The people who
- 9:10cannot get along and also get ahead are
- 9:12very few and far between, right? and
- 9:15they have to have some kind of
- 9:16superpower that allows them to to step
- 9:19over the barrier of social rejection.
- 9:23But what I will say is this. If you feel
- 9:25uncomfortable, and most people who who
- 9:28don't play by the rules feel
- 9:30uncomfortable all the time. They go to
- 9:32bed with self-doubt. They wake up with
- 9:35self-doubt. They they wonder if today is
- 9:38the day where it all falls apart, but
- 9:41they keep trying anyway. They keep
- 9:43trying anyway and it's the courage. I
- 9:46mean what is courage right Moshe?
- 9:48Courage is doing what you are afraid of
- 9:52anyway.
- 9:54So you have to be afraid. Fear has to be
- 9:56part of the equation for courage to even
- 9:59exist. So when people feel like they
- 10:02look at somebody and that person is
- 10:03fearless and courageous that's you can't
- 10:06have those two things at the same time.
- 10:07That person has to be fearful in order
- 10:10to be courageous. CIA believes that all
- 10:13people are born with a spy secret
- 10:16superpower. For some people, that means
- 10:18they can win deals. For others, they can
- 10:20spot liars. Some can even seduce lovers.
- 10:23I built a free 3inut test to help reveal
- 10:26to you exactly what your secret hidden
- 10:29superpower is. All you have to do is
- 10:31click on the link in the description
- 10:32below, take the test, and start using
- 10:34your spy superpower to stay ahead of 99%
- 10:37of people. And what you're actually
- 10:38seeing is somebody who's able to take
- 10:41their fear, recognize it, understand it,
- 10:45and take action anyway. And that's what
- 10:48makes just amazing heroic people. So, I
- 10:52was thinking about this, Andy. What's a
- 10:54practical tip if you're just meeting
- 10:58somebody for the first time
- 11:00to like really know more about them?
- 11:02Body language. Yeah. Yeah. It's great.
- 11:05So body language is something that's uh
- 11:07that's super helpful but also it can be
- 11:08misleading. So the first thing to
- 11:10understand is that there's two forms two
- 11:13basic rudimentary forms of body
- 11:14language. There's open language and
- 11:17closed language. So open language is
- 11:19what you are right now Mosha. Your arms
- 11:22are open. You're leaning back but your
- 11:25chest is exposed. Your face is exposed.
- 11:27You've got a smile on your face. Like
- 11:29very open body language. Open usually
- 11:32means receptive or curious.
- 11:35But then closed body language, that's
- 11:37when you see people with their arms
- 11:38crossed or their hands closed together
- 11:41or their legs crossed, right? Uh or
- 11:43somebody who's kind of got a furrowed
- 11:45eyebrow or a frown, that's closed body
- 11:47language. That means somebody is
- 11:49inherently suspicious or trying to keep
- 11:51themselves distant. If you just
- 11:53understand those two basic rudimentary
- 11:55forms of body language, when you see
- 11:57open language, you can lean in with more
- 12:00aggressive or more penetrating
- 12:02questions. When you see closed language,
- 12:06you want to talk less about you want to
- 12:07ask fewer questions and instead talk
- 12:09more about yourself. Share more about
- 12:12your thoughts, your feelings, your views
- 12:14of the world. Because what you need to
- 12:16do is crack through their closed body
- 12:18language. And if you've ever had that
- 12:20moment where you've seen somebody relax
- 12:23because of something you've said, right?
- 12:25Like you said, "Oh, I'm a god-fearing
- 12:27man." And then all of a sudden you see
- 12:29the person uncross their arms and smile.
- 12:31or you say, "I'm a dad of of 11, right?
- 12:34I'm a dad of of an army." And you see
- 12:36somebody chuckle and then open their
- 12:38arms. Like, you have to crack through
- 12:40that that closed body language. Um, but
- 12:43what often happens is that people don't
- 12:45understand it. So, they see closed body
- 12:47language and then they start peppering
- 12:48questions and they don't realize what
- 12:50they're doing is they're just they're
- 12:51just cementing that closed body language
- 12:53into place. You have to open the person
- 12:55up by talking about yourself and
- 12:57disarming them. I know that a lot of the
- 13:00consulting that you do with it's like
- 13:02top CEOs, Fortune 10 companies, right,
- 13:05which you talked about in the intro. Uh
- 13:08what is what is their like the true like
- 13:11you peel the layers back, what's the
- 13:13common denominator of of them? Like
- 13:16what's actually going on there? Cuz it's
- 13:18millions of dollars, right? Yeah. Yeah.
- 13:20Yeah. What's fascinating is when you
- 13:22start talking to the people who run
- 13:24multi-trillion dollar, multi-billion
- 13:26dollar uh companies, when you start talk
- 13:28to the the upper echelon of everything,
- 13:31they're all hired. They all work for
- 13:33somebody else. They work for a board of
- 13:35directors. They work for a board of
- 13:37adviserss. Uh they work for a CEO who is
- 13:40still overseeing things, but uh or they
- 13:43work for an owner who's overseeing the
- 13:45CEO. So, what I'm always shocked to find
- 13:48is that when you're dealing with senior
- 13:50level executives, you really are dealing
- 13:52with people who are trying to please
- 13:56someone else. And their challenge is
- 13:59that they carry all this responsibility,
- 14:03all this risk, and everybody beneath
- 14:06them doesn't share that burden. So they
- 14:10feel pinned between a a hierarchy of
- 14:14people who don't care as much as they do
- 14:16and an accountability board that isn't
- 14:19as well spoken or well-versed as they
- 14:21are. So it's this place in the middle
- 14:24where they are carrying just tons of
- 14:26stress and tons of concern and tons of
- 14:28fear. And the common denominator between
- 14:30all of them is usually that even though
- 14:34they carry all that stress, they find
- 14:36some way to cope with the stress and
- 14:39they recognize that they're coping with
- 14:42the stress. So what they want is healthy
- 14:45coping mechanisms because without
- 14:48knowing what the healthy mechanism is,
- 14:50they will revert to coping in unhealthy
- 14:53ways.
- 14:54Yeah. I I um I think right they
- 14:57recognize they probably hit had a I
- 14:59always talk about like the rock bottom
- 15:01moments they probably had that and
- 15:03they're a very unique type of person
- 15:05they can handle tremendous pressure and
- 15:08um right and there's tools like you say
- 15:10to do it to do they're doing it they
- 15:13recognize it and just it should be
- 15:14healthy right but I also want to
- 15:16highlight that the the vast majority of
- 15:18my clients are not owners they're
- 15:22executives when you start talking about
- 15:24the, you know, decimillionaire, um,
- 15:27centmillionaire CEO owner, that's a
- 15:31person who's developed their own healthy
- 15:33coping mechanisms to build their legacy.
- 15:37It's very, very different. Like your
- 15:39your successful entrepreneur has like
- 15:43the sky's is the limit. They can go
- 15:44anywhere they want. But when you start
- 15:46talking about the CEO of Google, the CEO
- 15:49of YouTube, the CEO of of CVS Health,
- 15:52the CEO of of Booze Allen Hamilton,
- 15:55those are not the owners. Those are not
- 15:56the people who founded the business.
- 15:58Those are career executives who were
- 16:00hired and vetted and now they are just
- 16:03carrying out another job. What you do
- 16:06and what I do every day is most
- 16:07certainly not just another job, right?
- 16:10We are building a legacy for our
- 16:11children. We are wedded to this baby in
- 16:14a way that no CEO who was hired could
- 16:17ever be.
- 16:19And I assume that that um when you say
- 16:23the sky's is the limit, you know, for
- 16:24for a founder
- 16:26um an entrepreneur, I mean, I guess that
- 16:30uh you know, they they figured out their
- 16:34healthy coping mechanisms at some point.
- 16:37Well, they they don't always, but they
- 16:39can. But the main thing that's that's
- 16:41magic about a founder is that we have
- 16:45the ability to turn ideas into money.
- 16:49There's nothing that stops us. When
- 16:51you're a CEO that's hired, you can have
- 16:54all the best ideas in the world, but you
- 16:56still have to get the board to approve.
- 16:58You still have to get the owner to
- 17:00approve. You still have to get the
- 17:01attorneys to approve. But when you are
- 17:04the CE when you yourself are the owner,
- 17:06CEO, founder, people can advise you
- 17:09against your idea all you want and you
- 17:12tell them to go to hell because it's
- 17:13your idea. It's your legacy. It's your
- 17:16baby. So what I find is that the people
- 17:18who understand and who want that freedom
- 17:20are destined for success. That's why the
- 17:22sky's is the limit because like they'll
- 17:25they'll they'll soar or they'll crash.
- 17:28And half the time after they crash,
- 17:30they'll get right back up and soar
- 17:32again. Whereas when you're a career COO
- 17:35or a career CFO, one crash and your
- 17:38career is over. Amazing. So tell me,
- 17:41Andy, what is something today when
- 17:43you're looking back at your life, what
- 17:45is something that you're deeply grateful
- 17:46for?
- 17:48I mean, it's a long list, man. There's
- 17:50so many things to be grateful for, but
- 17:51the first thing that comes to my mind is
- 17:53that I'm grateful for my wife and I'm
- 17:54grateful for my children because my wife
- 17:56is the counterbalance
- 17:59that kept me on a productive path. Uh if
- 18:03you think about a sailboat, right? A
- 18:05sailboat has a giant sail. Well, that
- 18:08entire gigantic sail is controlled by
- 18:10one rope. And that one rope is either
- 18:14they call it sheeting. You either sheet
- 18:16it in or you sheet it out to gain
- 18:19momentum, to gain speed, to change the
- 18:21direction of the boat. Without my wife,
- 18:24I was a sailboat with a giant sail and I
- 18:26was just blown in the wind. But when she
- 18:29came along and she sheated me in, now
- 18:32all of a sudden I was an I was an
- 18:34engine, right? I had an ability to
- 18:36produce something that that I couldn't
- 18:37produce otherwise. Plow through an
- 18:39ocean. So, I'm grateful for my wife and
- 18:42then my children became my navigational
- 18:45guide. They became what I was working
- 18:48for. So, now I had my wife to turn me
- 18:51into a motor, like turn me into a power
- 18:53force. And I had my children to show me
- 18:55the way of where I wanted to go. Without
- 18:56them, I'd still be floating in the
- 18:58ocean, big shiny sail, you know, and
- 19:01flopping around in the waves.
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