The Case of Chris Watts - Part 2 - The Polygraph — Transcript

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1. 0:00[Music]
2. 0:09I got to find him, right?
3. 0:13I need your help.
4. 0:21When we find the guy who took him,
5. 0:25what do you think we should do?
6. 0:28This is what is known as a
7. 0:29behavior-provoking question. An innocent
8. 0:32person will usually give what is known
9. 0:33as a draconian response. They will
10. 0:36immediately respond with the harshest
11. 0:37sentence possible for the crime they are
12. 0:39falsely being accused of committing. A
13. 0:41deceptive individual will often give an
14. 0:43equivocating response. This means that
15. 0:46they will fragmentize and divert from
16. 0:48the question to a certain degree as a
17. 0:50means to avoid responding to the query
18. 0:52in its entirety.
19. 0:53They're going to come home safe.
20. 0:54Correct. when you find the guy.
21. 0:57When we find the guy, they're going to
22. 0:58come home.
23. 1:02Life in prison would be the That's what
24. 1:05I would That's what I would think with
25. 1:07two kids that are involved.
26. 1:12What if he hurt them?
27. 1:18Did they
28. 1:20I'm not sure if like that penalty is
29. 1:22even used. Is it used in Colorado? I am
30. 1:25not even sure what is a death penalty.
31. 1:27Okay.
32. 1:28I mean like if these kids are not alive
33. 1:31like there's no there's nothing you
34. 1:33could do to to cope with that to make me
35. 1:37cope with that if those kids are not
36. 1:40okay.
37. 1:43Okay. Can we keep talking about some
38. 1:45complicated things? Some things that are
39. 1:47going to make you uncomfortable? That's
40. 1:48fine. Okay. You've done very good in
41. 1:51talking to me about this really hard
42. 1:52conversation you guys had. Okay. Very
43. 1:55good. That's sometimes hard and I
44. 1:58understand why sometimes someone in your
45. 2:00position says uh doesn't want to tell me
46. 2:03about that cuz please go help me find my
47. 2:05kids and you don't need to know about my
48. 2:07my marriage argument. Okay. So, I got to
49. 2:10say you've done very good at that. Um
50. 2:12and I need you to keep doing that. So, I
51. 2:14need to ask you about um your marriage
52. 2:18and uh infidelity.
53. 2:20Okay.
54. 2:20Okay. Tell me about it. Yeah, I have
55. 2:23never cheated on my wife. Okay.
56. 2:25And I fully suspect she has never done
57. 2:27that to me.
58. 2:28Oh, okay.
59. 2:29The interrogator was already aware that
60. 2:31Chris was cheating on his wife with a
61. 2:33woman by the name of Nicole Kessinger.
62. 2:35He had handed over his phone earlier on
63. 2:37this interview for what he thought was
64. 2:39for the purpose of going through his and
65. 2:41his wife's mutual contacts to look for
66. 2:43potential suspects. Judging by Chris's
67. 2:45bold-faced denial, it's safe to assume
68. 2:47he deleted all of his correspondence
69. 2:49with Nicole beforehand. Yet, he was most
70. 2:52likely unaware that the FBI have
71. 2:54programs that can recover every single
72. 2:56piece of digital exchange sent from a
73. 2:58device, even long after it's deleted.
74. 3:00Highly trained investigator over here,
75. 3:02right? I see pictures of you from a few
76. 3:05years ago.
77. 3:06Mhm.
78. 3:06And I see you standing before me now.
79. 3:09Okay. You've gotten pretty fit.
80. 3:11Okay. You can imagine when guys start
81. 3:13cheating or want to cheat, that's what
82. 3:15happens. Yes. So, tell me about it. I
83. 3:17did not cheat on my wife. Okay. What do
84. 3:20I do to help you walk out of this room
85. 3:23and not look like the person who's
86. 3:25responsible?
87. 3:28You have to trust me. I had nothing to
88. 3:30do with these with this act of like
89. 3:34evil, cruelty, whatever has happened
90. 3:35here because my love for these two girls
91. 3:39and my wife, like I don't want anything
92. 3:41to happen to them. I've never wanted
93. 3:43anything to happen to them.
94. 3:45No matter if me and my wife separate or
95. 3:47not or divorce or anything, I never wish
96. 3:51harm on anybody on a human being in
97. 3:53general.
98. 3:54Okay?
99. 3:54Like just seeing that picture like I
100. 3:58need them I I want them just to run
101. 4:00through that front door and just grab me
102. 4:02or just barrel just tackle me, knock me
103. 4:04to the floor, bust my head. I don't
104. 4:05care.
105. 4:07The amount of love I have for my family
106. 4:10is exponential. And I it's never going
107. 4:12to die.
108. 4:14They need I want them back.
109. 4:16Okay.
110. 4:17I have to have them back.
111. 4:26When you walk out of this room,
112. 4:29there's nothing I can say to a room full
113. 4:31of police officers that's going to
114. 4:32convince them that you have nothing to
115. 4:35do with this. I know.
116. 4:36You know what they think?
117. 4:38I I know I'll Yeah.
118. 4:40Here's a guy who didn't call 911,
119. 4:42who woke his wife wife up at a
120. 4:45ridiculous hour because he was so guilty
121. 4:48about something that he had to get it
122. 4:49off his chest and say, "I don't love you
123. 4:51anymore. I'm leaving you."
124. 4:54That didn't go well.
125. 4:58Okay. So, what happened?
126. 5:00She told me she wanted me to wake her up
127. 5:02before I left. That's why I didn't just
128. 5:05wake her up like just to tell her this.
129. 5:08Like I woke her up. That's what she
130. 5:10wanted to do. And we talked like usually
131. 5:13at 4:00 a.m. I wake up. I go down to
132. 5:15work out. This day I wanted to talk to
133. 5:17her about this.
134. 5:34I love these girls. I love these girls
135. 5:37so much. And this picture right here,
136. 5:41Celeste and Bella, those are my life.
137. 5:44I'm helped make those kids.
138. 5:47There's nothing in my life that means
139. 5:50more to me than these kids.
140. 5:55Nothing. Kids, that's that's your life.
141. 5:59That's your lifeline.
142. 6:01That's everything. Like you make kids,
143. 6:03they're they come first before anything.
144. 6:05Kids, spouse, family. That's what it's
145. 6:08always been.
146. 6:16Nothing you've told me tonight makes
147. 6:17sense. Nothing you've told me tonight
148. 6:20feels like the truth.
149. 6:27Can we start over? Sure.
150. 6:31Tonight's been pretty intense. I can
151. 6:33imagine. How are you feeling?
152. 6:37I slept like two hours last night, so
153. 6:39I'm like running on empty right now, but
154. 6:41I know I can see it. So, why don't I do
155. 6:43this? I'm sure you don't mind if we take
156. 6:46a break for the night.
157. 6:49Um, and I'm sure that you are
158. 6:52um feeling some of the pressure from me.
159. 6:55Okay. I'm going to commit to you that
160. 6:57we're not going to stop working until we
161. 6:59find them.
162. 6:59Okay.
163. 7:00Okay. And I want to commit to you that
164. 7:04there is going to come a time when
165. 7:07you're going to feel this pressure from
166. 7:08other people. I'm not the only one who
167. 7:10thinks that there's a possibility you
168. 7:12have something to do with this. Like
169. 7:14another FBI agent like pressure or like
170. 7:16just like
171. 7:17everyone. Okay. Everyone Chris.
172. 7:18Okay. The interrogator is clearly
173. 7:21receptive to Chris's anxiety and
174. 7:23endeavors to amplify this emotion before
175. 7:25ending the interview. He wants to
176. 7:26inflate Chris's apprehension as much as
177. 7:29possible for the looming polygraph test
178. 7:31that approaches the following day.
179. 7:33Tonight when you go home,
180. 7:36one of two things going to happen.
181. 7:38You're going to pass out cuz you're so
182. 7:40tired. Okay? And that's probably not
183. 7:42going to be what happens. Your head's
184. 7:44going to go racing. Okay? So tonight
185. 7:46when you lay down and your head starts
186. 7:49racing, there's going to be things that
187. 7:50come to your mind. Okay, this always
188. 7:52happens. Always. It's very natural.
189. 7:54You're going to say, "I wonder why he
190. 7:56asked me that." Okay, you're going to
191. 7:58say, "Screw him. How dare he accuse me."
192. 8:01Okay, you're going to say, "I wonder if
193. 8:03they thought of this." Okay? And then
194. 8:05you're going to say, "I probably should
195. 8:07have told him something or this or
196. 8:09that." Okay? Those are the most common
197. 8:12things. Um, when those thoughts come to
198. 8:14your head, I want you to call me.
199. 8:20And those are beautiful kids. Those kids
200. 8:22have a good dad and I know it. I just
201. 8:24see the picture for him.
202. 8:26Yeah,
203. 8:27it's a better one, but it's just
204. 8:30I'm sorry to
205. 8:35those kids have a good day. The
206. 8:36following discourse from the officer
207. 8:38could be construed as the reframing
208. 8:40technique where an interrogator will try
209. 8:42and shift the suspect's view of
210. 8:44themselves from negative to positive as
211. 8:46a means to lightening the iniquity of
212. 8:48their crimes and increasing the chances
213. 8:50of a confession. However, this is more
214. 8:52likely what is known as passive
215. 8:54accusation, where the interrogator is
216. 8:56almost certain of the suspect's guilt
217. 8:58and indirectly accuses and in some
218. 9:00manner indignifies the suspect. This is
219. 9:03made evident by the high praises the
220. 9:05officer gives to Chris for extremely
221. 9:07trivial deeds.
222. 9:08A lot of deaths don't
223. 9:11get second pairs of clothes and cook
224. 9:14eggs and give him snacks at night. You
225. 9:16know, a lot of men that's woman's work,
226. 9:18right?
227. 9:19I like to get involved.
228. 9:20You're not that kind of guy. Okay. So,
229. 9:23can we say that tomorrow at
230. 9:2611:00?
231. 9:27Okay.
232. 9:28We can do a polygraph
233. 9:29here.
234. 9:29Here. Um I appreciate you coming in
235. 9:31tonight.
236. 9:31Mhm.
237. 9:32All right.
238. 9:33talking.
239. 9:34This is Tammy. Did you meet Tammy
240. 9:36yesterday? No, I was good at all. I
241. 9:37always Tammy.
242. 9:37Hi, Chris. How are you?
243. 9:39Is it on this?
244. 9:40Yep. I know it's I'll explain what that
245. 9:41is here in a little bit, but you don't
246. 9:43have to worry. It's not on or anything
247. 9:45right now. It's not going to It's not
248. 9:46going to buzz you or anything.
249. 9:48Obviously, you're probably nervous about
250. 9:49taking today's test. Honestly, I would
251. 9:51think something is wrong with you if you
252. 9:52weren't nervous about coming in here to
253. 9:54take a polygraph. Even if people are
254. 9:56like, I don't have anything to hide, it
255. 9:57is nerve-wracking. I have taken tons of
256. 10:00polygraphs obviously in my training. Um
257. 10:03I went to 10 weeks for training. I've
258. 10:05been a polygrapher about for about 5
259. 10:06years. Um I went to the best school in
260. 10:09the country. So I want you to have
261. 10:11confidence in the fact that if you had
262. 10:12nothing to do with this disappearance
263. 10:14like we're going to find that out today.
264. 10:15Okay? I have the best training that they
265. 10:17offer in the United States. Um I we use
266. 10:20the most validated testing um that the
267. 10:23way I'm going to ask you the question.
268. 10:25So believe me, if you had nothing to do
269. 10:27with this, I will be able to show them
270. 10:29that today.
271. 10:30This is psychological pressure disguised
272. 10:32as reassurance. It's not a routine
273. 10:34procedure during the pre-EST phase of a
274. 10:36polygraph exam. Yet, this technique will
275. 10:38be used when the suspect's guilt is
276. 10:40almost conclusive. Polygraphs are not a
277. 10:42foolproof system, and they can be
278. 10:44beaten. But with a heightened state of
279. 10:46anxiety, it becomes considerably more
280. 10:48challenging and unlikely. On this
281. 10:50occasion, the polygrapher distinctly
282. 10:52applies this technique for maximal
283. 10:53effect. There's actually only two ways
284. 10:55you can fail a polygraph. Okay? The
285. 10:57first way would be if you fail to follow
286. 10:58my instructions. I'm going to give you a
287. 11:00lot of instructions today about how to
288. 11:02sit still, how to answer questions,
289. 11:03things like that. So, if you fail to
290. 11:05follow those instructions, you will not
291. 11:06pass today's test. Okay? The second way
292. 11:08would be if you choose to lie to me
293. 11:10today. You know, if you did have
294. 11:11something to do with their
295. 11:13disappearance, um it would be really
296. 11:15stupid for you to come in and take a
297. 11:16polygraph today,
298. 11:18right? Like it it would be really dumb.
299. 11:20like you should not be here right now
300. 11:22sitting in this chair if you had
301. 11:23anything to do with Chenan and the
302. 11:25little girl's disappearance. Okay.
303. 11:32But yeah, we just everything flourished
304. 11:34from there. Like in 2011, I I proposed
305. 11:36to her over in Ocean Beach.
306. 11:40It was she was just sitting there
307. 11:42crying. It was a little eviction notice
308. 11:43and she had she recorded it. It was
309. 11:46really it was an amazing day just to see
310. 11:48that. And then she Celeste, she was she
311. 11:52was I was there like she had a midwife
312. 11:54for this one. So like they actually had
313. 11:56me like you can stand here and like you
314. 11:58know catch her and like but Celeste came
315. 12:01out like so fast that like I barely had
316. 12:04a chance to go like this and they moved
317. 12:06me out of the way. She just like came
318. 12:07out.
319. 12:07The polygrapher will also obtain the
320. 12:10examinees version of the facts regarding
321. 12:12the specific issues under investigation.
322. 12:14Like I was just hoping that I would get
323. 12:15that knocked on the door or a phone call
324. 12:18or a text. I mean her phone I mean they
325. 12:20have her phone. Like hopefully maybe
326. 12:22it's a number. I don't know. Hopefully
327. 12:24it's like you know like a burn her phone
328. 12:27or some some kind of some kind of like
329. 12:30phone she bought and she could just text
330. 12:31me and call me like hey I'm okay
331. 12:33something or just get a knock on the
332. 12:35door and then the kids just run in. I
333. 12:37miss like the kids like sitting at the
334. 12:39dinner table and like having to tell
335. 12:42them to eat their dinner and like I miss
336. 12:44them throwing their chicken nuggets at
337. 12:46me. Like I was I just want to find them.
338. 12:50I want them to come home safe. Like
339. 12:51wherever they are I hope they are safe
340. 12:54and I really I really hope they can just
341. 12:56come home. It makes me feel like, all
342. 12:59right, maybe somebody has her that's not
343. 13:02that's not keeping her safe
344. 13:05or something terrible has happened. And
345. 13:08that is that's the nightmare.
346. 13:11And what would that terrible thing be?
347. 13:14Somebody hurt them.
348. 13:15Chris recounts a brief summary of the
349. 13:17events and states multiple vague
350. 13:19possibilities for his family's
351. 13:21disappearance. The polygrapher then
352. 13:23starts to elect specific timelines for
353. 13:25Chris to give his account on. Um, you
354. 13:29said the next thing you know is her
355. 13:30getting into bed with you. Is that
356. 13:31right?
357. 13:32I could I felt her get in bed. We didn't
358. 13:33say anything cuz I just kind of felt it.
359. 13:36Okay. Do you know if she was on her
360. 13:38phone or like how any of that works?
361. 13:40I don't I don't think she was on her
362. 13:42phone.
363. 13:43Was she mad at all?
364. 13:45I mean, being crying crying like she was
365. 13:48crying like I was. I mean Yeah. I mean,
366. 13:50she was upset, but I mean it was it it
367. 13:53comes with that kind of conversation. In
368. 13:55the next moments, you will see another
369. 13:57subdriuge of psychological pressure.
370. 13:59This time disguised as routine
371. 14:01questioning procedure.
372. 14:02I know it's totally awful to think
373. 14:05about, but what are ways, because I need
374. 14:07to make sure that you know what I'm
375. 14:09talking about. What are ways that you
376. 14:11can make someone disappear?
377. 14:16I mean, like if you talk about like what
378. 14:18I've seen like on the movies or like how
379. 14:21like how people if you read about other
380. 14:23people I mean you hire somebody
381. 14:27like a hitman.
382. 14:28Yeah. I mean that's I mean
383. 14:29I'm just being honest.
384. 14:30Nope. That's what I want. That's what I
385. 14:31want cuz I want you to go through all of
386. 14:33these scenarios in your head because I
387. 14:35want you to know for sure what I'm
388. 14:37talking about when I say that you know
389. 14:38asking you if you physically caused her
390. 14:40disappearance.
391. 14:41Okay? like like you would hire somebody
392. 14:43or you have a
393. 14:45somebody you know that
394. 14:48that would do it. I mean it's like I
395. 14:50don't I mean that's hard question.
396. 14:52I didn't know this.
397. 14:53That's a hard question to answer,
398. 14:55right?
399. 14:55Because I didn't it had nothing to do
400. 14:58with this disappearance, but like I
401. 15:00don't even want to think about like
402. 15:02if I if if you're asking like how I
403. 15:05would do it like I
404. 15:06no anyone like how would how would
405. 15:08anyone cause someone else's
406. 15:09disappearance? I mean, you would
407. 15:14say that
408. 15:14you could cause someone's disappearance
409. 15:16by murdering them. Would you agree with
410. 15:18that?
411. 15:18Yes.
412. 15:18So, what different physical ways could
413. 15:20you cause someone's disappearance
414. 15:22through murder?
415. 15:24You could stab someone.
416. 15:25Stab someone, shoot someone,
417. 15:28hit him with a blunt object.
418. 15:31Um,
419. 15:34what else is there? I mean,
420. 15:37use a weapon of like gun or knife. I
421. 15:39mean,
422. 15:40okay,
423. 15:41you could
424. 15:49you could smother someone.
425. 15:50Smother someone,
426. 15:53you could strangle someone,
427. 15:55hang some. I mean, yeah, you can all
428. 15:56that kind of things. I mean, it's hard
429. 15:59to even think about that kind of stuff
430. 16:00right now.
431. 16:01So, you could strangle someone, you
432. 16:02could drown someone.
433. 16:04Yeah.
434. 16:05You could shock someone to death. Um,
435. 16:07you could burn someone alive.
436. 16:11Um, what other ways
437. 16:14can you think of
438. 16:18as far as like
439. 16:22lure him into a trap? I guess.
440. 16:25What do you mean? What?
441. 16:26Like, you know, like have somebody
442. 16:27waiting like around the corner and like
443. 16:31Sure.
444. 16:34[Music]
445. 16:37They're in a coma.
446. 16:38Sure.
447. 16:40Um,
448. 16:43so if I ask you that question on the
449. 16:44test, Chris, are you going to have any
450. 16:46issue with that about you physically
451. 16:48causing
452. 16:49going through every single one of those?
453. 16:51Yeah, like that would be a way you could
454. 16:52cause someone's disappearance.
455. 16:53Okay. No, I I can definitely like I can
456. 16:56pass. I mean,
457. 16:56you could murder them, you could kidnap
458. 16:58them, you could take them to another
459. 16:59country, you could, you know, bury them
460. 17:01in your backyard, you could you could do
461. 17:02a million things. Yeah.
462. 17:04As far as um trying to conceal them.
463. 17:07Yeah.
464. 17:07Right.
465. 17:08So that no one can find them.
466. 17:09Yes.
467. 17:09Cuz at this point she's gone.
468. 17:12So when I ask you the question on the
469. 17:13test, I'm not asking you about guilt.
470. 17:15I'm not asking you about did you make
471. 17:17her feel so horrible that she ended up
472. 17:18leaving. I'm saying that you were the
473. 17:21one that physically caused her to
474. 17:23disappear
475. 17:24either by murder, kidnapping, you know,
476. 17:26all of those other things that we went
477. 17:28through. Okay.
478. 17:28You want me to list You want me to list
479. 17:30all those? Like why?
480. 17:31No, no, no. You're just going to say no
481. 17:32to that question. Okay. When I ask you
482. 17:34if you physically caused Shenan's
483. 17:36disappearance, your answer should be
484. 17:38what?
485. 17:38No.
486. 17:39Right. So, do you have any issues with
487. 17:40that at all? And have any question about
488. 17:42what I would mean when I was
489. 17:44No, that's total like I just like going
490. 17:46through all those that
491. 17:48that's a lot to really think about,
492. 17:50right?
493. 17:51Trying to figure out like Yeah, that was
494. 17:57I'm going to have you take a bathroom
495. 17:59break. We've been in here quite a while.
496. 18:01So,
497. 18:03you're going to be taking what's called
498. 18:04a directed lie polygraph. So, what that
499. 18:06means is they're going to be test
500. 18:08questions on the test where I want you
501. 18:09to lie. I know it seems kind of weird,
502. 18:11but you're going to know which questions
503. 18:12these are, and they're going to be easy
504. 18:13to answer. They're all going to start
505. 18:15with before 2018.
506. 18:16The directed lie test has three types of
507. 18:19questions. Known truth questions. These
508. 18:21are easy questions to answer, such as,
509. 18:24"Are you sitting down?" or "Are you
510. 18:26wearing shoes?" They serve two purposes.
511. 18:28The first purpose is to provide a
512. 18:30baseline reading for when the subject is
513. 18:32telling the truth and should elicit very
514. 18:34little bodily responses. The second
515. 18:36purpose is to disconnect the examinees
516. 18:38thought patterns between each question
517. 18:40as a means for resetting their
518. 18:41celebration for a more accurate reading.
519. 18:44Control questions. These are what the
520. 18:46polygrapher just explained to Chris.
521. 18:48Whenever she says before 2018 at the
522. 18:51start of a question, Chris will know he
523. 18:53is purposely supposed to lie. Each of
524. 18:55these questions are deliberately
525. 18:56constructed that all answers will be
526. 18:58responded with no relevant questions.
527. 19:01These relate specifically to the crime
528. 19:03being investigated and the examinee will
529. 19:05know that they are supposed to respond
530. 19:07truthfully. A guilty subject will show a
531. 19:09much stronger reaction to the relevant
532. 19:11questions than to the control questions
533. 19:13even though they will be lying on both
534. 19:15of them. This is due to the immediate
535. 19:16threat posed by the relevant questions.
536. 19:19So, I'm going to say before 2018, did
537. 19:21you ever lose your temper with someone
538. 19:22you cared about? And you're going to say
539. 19:24no
540. 19:25cuz you're telling a
541. 19:26lie.
542. 19:27Awesome.
543. 19:33The test is about to begin. Please
544. 19:34remain still. Did you write the number
545. 19:36one?
546. 19:37No.
547. 19:38Did you write the number three?
548. 19:40No.
549. 19:40Did you write the number five?
550. 19:42No.
551. 19:43This portion of the test is complete.
552. 19:45Please remain still while I take the
553. 19:46instrument out of operation.
554. 19:50Okay, you can relax.
555. 19:52How'd you feel?
556. 19:55This is the last time the polygrapher
557. 19:57will have any correspondence with Chris
558. 19:59before the real test begins. She gives
559. 20:01him an initial compliment in a
560. 20:02reassuring tone.
561. 20:03You did great.
562. 20:05You remembered to lie and everything.
563. 20:07That was awesome.
564. 20:08That was
565. 20:10This momentary boost in his confidence
566. 20:12is then abruptly ripped away as he
567. 20:14receives the following information.
568. 20:16So, you obviously are a really bad liar.
569. 20:19Have Have people told you that before?
570. 20:20Like this? I mean, you tell a lie. Like,
571. 20:22they can tell like on your face that
572. 20:24because the second you lie to the number
573. 20:26three, like I don't know if you heard me
574. 20:27clicking, but like turn down the
575. 20:29sensitivity because you're starting to
576. 20:30go off the page. So, that is what I need
577. 20:32to see as a polygrapher because that
578. 20:35tells me that you know it's wrong to
579. 20:36tell a lie. Um, and you're actually
580. 20:38having a significant reaction when you
581. 20:40lie. So, that is awesome. So, thank you
582. 20:42for being a horrible liar. No, that's a
583. 20:44good thing. That's a good thing. We
584. 20:46don't want to be good liars. So, thank
585. 20:48you for being a horrible liar. Um, and
586. 20:50that just shows me that, you know,
587. 20:51obviously on the test when we're asking,
588. 20:53you know, significant stuff about your
589. 20:54wife, um, if you're lying to that, it's
590. 20:56going to be even 10 times more
591. 20:58amplified. So, I appreciate that.
592. 21:01I appreciate that very much. More than
593. 21:03you know. So, that was awesome. And the
594. 21:06coolest thing about this is right now
595. 21:08there's only one person in this room
596. 21:10that knows what the truth is. And in
597. 21:12about five minutes there's going to be
598. 21:13two of us. So, that's the coolest part.
599. 21:15Okay? And I can go share that with them
600. 21:17out there. Okay. Okay.
601. 21:20All right, you ready? Let's
602. 21:21do it.
603. 21:22The test is about to begin. Please
604. 21:24remain still.
605. 21:29Do you understand? I will only ask you
606. 21:31the questions we have discussed.
607. 21:33Yes.
608. 21:35Regarding Shenan's disappearance, do you
609. 21:37intend to answer all of the questions
610. 21:38truthfully?
611. 21:39Yes.
612. 21:41Is your first name Christopher?
613. 21:43Yes.
614. 21:44Before 2018, did you ever lose your
615. 21:46temper with someone you cared about?
616. 21:49No.
617. 21:50Did you physically cause Shenan's
618. 21:52disappearance?
619. 21:53No.
620. 21:56Were you born in 1985?
621. 21:59Yes.
622. 22:00Before 2018, did you ever say anything
623. 22:03out of anger to a loved one?
624. 22:05No.
625. 22:07Are you lying about the last time you
626. 22:08saw Shannon?
627. 22:09No.
628. 22:14Are you now in the state of Colorado?
629. 22:16Yes. Before 2018, have you ever wanted
630. 22:20to hurt someone to get even with them?
631. 22:22No.
632. 22:24Do you know where Shenan is now?
633. 22:26No.
634. 22:31Which portion of the test is complete?
635. 22:33Please remain still while I take the
636. 22:34instrument out of operation.
637. 22:36All right. How'd you feel?
638. 22:39Same roll of it. I think it was the same
639. 22:43for you. We'll be right back. Okay.
640. 22:48[Music]
641. 22:54[Music]
642. 23:05[Music]
643. 23:09Oh my gosh. I did forget part of it,
644. 23:11didn't I?
645. 23:24So, I brought Graham in here because we
646. 23:25want to talk to you about the results.
647. 23:27Okay.
648. 23:32So, um it is completely clear that you
649. 23:35were not honest during the testing and I
650. 23:36think you already know that um you did
651. 23:39not pass the polygraph test, right?
652. 23:41Okay. So, now we need to talk about what
653. 23:43actually happened. I feel like you're
654. 23:46probably ready to do that.
655. 23:48I didn't I didn't lie to you on that
656. 23:50polygraph. I promise.
657. 23:52Chris, I I'm stop. It's time. I stop for
658. 23:57a minute. Take a deep breath.
659. 24:00I I want you to take a deep breath right
660. 24:01now.