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  1. 0:00And is she in the doorway? Is she
  2. 0:02inside?
  3. 0:02>> She's in the doorway. And I got up and I
  4. 0:05start walking towards her like, "You
  5. 0:07going to shoot me? What? You going to
  6. 0:08shoot me? You know, you said you don't
  7. 0:10want to go to jail cuz they're going to
  8. 0:12have to take that weave off and
  9. 0:13everybody know you bald."
  10. 0:18On the night of June 30th, 2025, a call
  11. 0:22came into Harford County dispatch
  12. 0:24reporting a shooting at a home in the
  13. 0:262,800 block of Binham Overlook Drive in
  14. 0:29Abington, Maryland. Deputies with the
  15. 0:31Harford County Sheriff's Office arrived
  16. 0:33just before 11 p.m. At the scene, they
  17. 0:36found 64year-old Lillian Williams
  18. 0:38suffering from a gunshot wound.
  19. 0:41Emergency help was too late. She was
  20. 0:43pronounced dead at the scene. The case
  21. 0:45was turned over to detectives with the
  22. 0:47sheriff's office criminal investigations
  23. 0:49division. Forensic personnel also
  24. 0:51responded and investigators began
  25. 0:54working through what had happened inside
  26. 0:55the home that night. The person closest
  27. 0:58to Lillian was her husband, David
  28. 1:00Williams. As detectives gathered
  29. 1:02information at the scene, he became
  30. 1:05someone they needed to speak with
  31. 1:06directly. Before the full picture of
  32. 1:08that night could be understood,
  33. 1:10investigators wanted his account of what
  34. 1:12happened, what he saw, and what led up
  35. 1:16to the shooting. They brought David
  36. 1:18Williams in, sat him down, and began
  37. 1:20asking questions about the night his
  38. 1:21wife was killed. This is the
  39. 1:23interrogation of David Williams.
  40. 1:32>> Mr. Williams,
  41. 1:34I'm Detective Golden with the Sheriff's
  42. 1:35Office. This is technic
  43. 1:39this table over just a little bit. Watch
  44. 1:41your water there. I don't want to spill
  45. 1:43on you.
  46. 1:47>> I'm not as skinny as I used to be. So,
  47. 1:49need a little extra room.
  48. 1:52>> Just so you know, I don't know if
  49. 1:54anybody told you. Everything in this
  50. 1:55room is visually recorded. Okay.
  51. 2:06So,
  52. 2:09we all know why we're here, right?
  53. 2:13>> Huh?
  54. 2:14>> Um, we'll get into all that in just a
  55. 2:17little bit. All right. Um, because you
  56. 2:20were brought here in a police car in
  57. 2:22handcuffs, which is our policy.
  58. 2:24>> Um, and because we don't know exactly
  59. 2:26what's going on here,
  60. 2:28>> I'm just going to advise you of your
  61. 2:29rights.
  62. 2:30>> Okay. And then we can talk after that.
  63. 2:32All right.
  64. 2:48>> All right. Mr. Williams, can you read?
  65. 2:50>> Yeah.
  66. 2:50>> I only asked that to insult your
  67. 2:52intelligence. I'll explain why I asked
  68. 2:54that in just a moment. And how far did
  69. 2:56you go with your education?
  70. 2:58>> 1200.
  71. 2:59>> Okay. So no college
  72. 3:02but
  73. 3:02>> okay that's more than I had. So you got
  74. 3:05me B.
  75. 3:12Okay.
  76. 3:14The reason I ask if you can read I'm
  77. 3:16going to read this to you.
  78. 3:17>> Okay.
  79. 3:17>> Okay.
  80. 3:18>> Feel free to follow along if you can.
  81. 3:20Okay. Again, my name is Detective Golden
  82. 3:23of the Harford County Sheriff's Office.
  83. 3:25I wish to advise you that you have the
  84. 3:27right to remain silent. Anything you say
  85. 3:30can and will be used against you in a
  86. 3:32court of law. You have the right to an
  87. 3:34attorney and have the attorney with you
  88. 3:36during questioning. If you cannot afford
  89. 3:38an attorney, one will be appointed to
  90. 3:40represent you before any questioning. If
  91. 3:43at any time during questioning you want
  92. 3:46to stop and remain silent, you have the
  93. 3:48right to do so. Question number one
  94. 3:51says, do you understand what I have just
  95. 3:53told you?
  96. 3:54>> Yes. If you can mark yes
  97. 3:58the first block there and then put your
  98. 4:00initials right here sir.
  99. 4:04The second question are you willing to
  100. 4:06talk to us after being advised of your
  101. 4:08rights?
  102. 4:10Yes or no?
  103. 4:13>> So if I put no then what?
  104. 4:15>> Then we're done. We don't talk
  105. 4:19>> and then we
  106. 4:22>> until we get done our investigation.
  107. 4:23Yes, sir.
  108. 4:24>> Okay.
  109. 4:27>> And then you can just initial and you
  110. 4:29checked yes. Is that correct?
  111. 4:31>> Mhm.
  112. 4:32>> Okay. Question three. Have you had any
  113. 4:34threats, promises, force, or has duress
  114. 4:38been used to have you talk to us?
  115. 4:41>> Okay. You can mark no again. Initial.
  116. 4:44And then if you can just sign this top
  117. 4:46line, sir.
  118. 4:49>> Yes, sir.
  119. 5:13All right.
  120. 5:25So,
  121. 5:27we're here because you got home at some
  122. 5:30point, I guess yesterday now, since it's
  123. 5:32after midnight. And you found your wife
  124. 5:36inside your home. Is that correct?
  125. 5:40>> Okay. So, if you can just take me back
  126. 5:44to
  127. 5:45>> Let me let me tell you let me explain
  128. 5:47something to you first.
  129. 5:49I'm just gonna be honest cuz I'm a man
  130. 5:52of God,
  131. 5:54you know.
  132. 5:57And this spirit will convict me if I
  133. 6:00don't sit up here and tell you the
  134. 6:02truth.
  135. 6:06I'm over the road truck driver.
  136. 6:10Three times
  137. 6:12since we were married, I attempted to
  138. 6:15leave my wife
  139. 6:18cuz she was having an affair.
  140. 6:22She claims that she was me.
  141. 6:25But
  142. 6:27I talk to my wife all the time. When I
  143. 6:30first started, when we first got
  144. 6:32married, I'm on the road. I would call
  145. 6:35my wife,
  146. 6:38talk to her. She tell me where she at. I
  147. 6:40said, "Faceetime, let me see you." She
  148. 6:42FaceTime me where she was at.
  149. 6:47So, um,
  150. 6:50I knew she was there by herself, so I
  151. 6:52made her get her permit for a gun. I
  152. 6:56bought her a gun and I would leave it
  153. 6:58with her when I on the road, cuz I be
  154. 7:01gone two months sometimes. Sometimes
  155. 7:03I'll be gone a month and a half. It
  156. 7:05depends on what she wanted where she
  157. 7:07wanted to travel. She like to travel.
  158. 7:10So
  159. 7:12everything was fine.
  160. 7:15I forgave her the first time,
  161. 7:18forgave her the second time.
  162. 7:21So this last time I was on the road, I
  163. 7:25was in Seattle, Washington.
  164. 7:27And uh I called my wife. She answered
  165. 7:31the phone
  166. 7:33and she was whispering and then she
  167. 7:35said, "I gotta go. I'll call you back."
  168. 7:39No, she just said, "I got to go."
  169. 7:42And so
  170. 7:44she just hung the phone up.
  171. 7:475 hours later,
  172. 7:50cuz I had been trying to call her, she
  173. 7:51wasn't answering the phone. 5 hours
  174. 7:53later,
  175. 7:57she answered the phone.
  176. 8:00And I said, "I've been trying to call
  177. 8:02you for 5 hours." And he said he was
  178. 8:03going to call me back. But what happened
  179. 8:06is that she that's her daughter.
  180. 8:09They don't like me.
  181. 8:13Her she has a daughter by her guy, you
  182. 8:16know, relationship.
  183. 8:18And my children from my ex-wife don't
  184. 8:21like her. That's just how it is.
  185. 8:25So it's always a lot of tension and
  186. 8:27conflict there.
  187. 8:30Um,
  188. 8:34my wife let a man in the house that I
  189. 8:36told her not to let in the house. I
  190. 8:38don't know. You know, so this this time
  191. 8:42I said, "You know what? There's so much
  192. 8:44inconsistency.
  193. 8:46Um,
  194. 8:48I need to talk to you when I got home.
  195. 9:05and we've been sleeping in separate
  196. 9:07rooms
  197. 9:09because I told her I'm done.
  198. 9:14I said Wednesday. And I had a doctor's
  199. 9:16appointment this morning
  200. 9:19and I had one Monday
  201. 9:23and I have another one July the 15th.
  202. 9:30So I told her
  203. 9:32uh that I'm leaving her. I know my wife
  204. 9:36can't afford that house by herself,
  205. 9:40but I I told her, you know, the straw
  206. 9:42broke the camel's back and so my wife
  207. 9:45snaps a lot. She starts yelling and
  208. 9:48screaming and I'm like, "That's the Pop
  209. 9:50the Grove and Eleicant Drive coming out
  210. 9:52of you cuz that's where she's from." And
  211. 9:54um so
  212. 9:59um
  213. 10:02I came home and I told her, you know, we
  214. 10:04talked and she was fine with me. Go
  215. 10:07ahead. Go ahead. I don't care. I don't
  216. 10:09care. And so um she made me get off her
  217. 10:12insurance. So I had just got
  218. 10:16my own insurance cuz my car was on Geico
  219. 10:19with her. So I just changed it over. So,
  220. 10:24I don't know what happened. Um,
  221. 10:28she said, "Well, if you leaving me,
  222. 10:30leave now." I said, "I'm leaving
  223. 10:32Wednesday because I got another doctor's
  224. 10:34appointment Wednesday morning out here."
  225. 10:37I was going to stay with my mom. My mom
  226. 10:39lives all the way over.
  227. 10:46So,
  228. 10:49she just went on and on and on. And I
  229. 10:51went downstairs and I made me four
  230. 10:54peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. I
  231. 10:56came back up in my room, the master
  232. 10:58room, and she was sleeping down the
  233. 11:01hall, which she was just running, you
  234. 11:05and I had just came in from my
  235. 11:07daughter's.
  236. 11:09She was running her mouth, running her
  237. 11:11mouth, blah blah blah blah. And um
  238. 11:16she opened the door
  239. 11:19and she had the gun
  240. 11:22and I and I got up and I said, "What the
  241. 11:24hell you think you doing?" And I walked
  242. 11:26towards I said, "You think you going to
  243. 11:28shoot me? You think you're going to
  244. 11:30shoot me?" I said, "You said you don't
  245. 11:32want to go to jail cuz you got a weave
  246. 11:33on your head. They going to have to take
  247. 11:34it off and see that you bald." And she
  248. 11:37started yelling. And then I went to grab
  249. 11:40the gun
  250. 11:41and it went off.
  251. 11:44And I panicked
  252. 11:46cuz I said, "Ain't nobody going to
  253. 11:49believe me."
  254. 11:51And I got the gun and I then I threw the
  255. 11:54gun away. I threw it down there uh over
  256. 11:58the bridge.
  257. 12:01>> Which bridge?
  258. 12:02>> Right down the street from my house.
  259. 12:04>> Okay.
  260. 12:06>> You know what I'm talking about. That
  261. 12:07little bridge right there on Hookers
  262. 12:09Mill.
  263. 12:09>> So when you leave your development, you
  264. 12:10made a left. No, right.
  265. 12:13>> Right. Okay.
  266. 12:14>> And I threw the bridge. You threw the
  267. 12:16gun there. And I
  268. 12:18>> Which side of the bridge did you throw
  269. 12:20the gun?
  270. 12:20>> On the left side.
  271. 12:22And I panicked.
  272. 12:24And I was going to I was going to run.
  273. 12:27And then I'm I'm telling you, man. You
  274. 12:30know, I don't know if you guys got
  275. 12:32Christ in you, but if you really got the
  276. 12:34spirit in, man, that spirit convicts you
  277. 12:36worse than any jail, worse than
  278. 12:38anything.
  279. 12:40And I called a friend of mine all the
  280. 12:42way
  281. 12:46and I told her
  282. 12:49and uh she said, "Well, you can come
  283. 12:51stay here with me and the children." I
  284. 12:54didn't tell her exactly, you know, what
  285. 12:57happened.
  286. 12:59And I told I said, "I can't."
  287. 13:05I said, "I got to I got to go back and
  288. 13:09call the police
  289. 13:12and then I'mma tell them what happened.
  290. 13:16They're not going to believe you cuz you
  291. 13:18know we had a record in the past and
  292. 13:20this." I said, "I don't care, man. I I
  293. 13:23got to tell the truth." And so
  294. 13:29when they came when I seen all them
  295. 13:31police cars
  296. 13:34my mind went stupid again and I said I
  297. 13:38found it like this
  298. 13:40but I didn't
  299. 13:44I didn't find it like that and I should
  300. 13:48have never bought that gun and
  301. 13:52and that's that's what happened. I mean,
  302. 13:55it was an accident. She was uh she was
  303. 13:58yelling. She was furious. She thought I
  304. 14:01was out with some girl named Joanne. She
  305. 14:04thought I was doing this and
  306. 14:08and um I was telling her we going to get
  307. 14:12divorced and we going to have to sell
  308. 14:13the house and split the money. And she
  309. 14:15said, "I'm not leaving, man."
  310. 14:17She flipped out. I mean, she used to
  311. 14:20flip out all the time, but she never had
  312. 14:22a gun. She would just take a fish and
  313. 14:24beat on me and I never had her. I would
  314. 14:28just hold her
  315. 14:32and that's
  316. 14:36okay. I
  317. 14:39That's what happened, man. So,
  318. 14:42>> yeah, I mean,
  319. 14:43>> what what I'm going to do is I'm going
  320. 14:45to I'm going to tell you back what you
  321. 14:47told me. That way I'm sure I have it
  322. 14:49right and I'm I'm not misinterpreting
  323. 14:52something. And then I'm going to write
  324. 14:54some notes while I'm doing that. And I
  325. 14:56might have a couple questions for you
  326. 14:58along the way.
  327. 14:58>> Yeah.
  328. 14:59>> All right.
  329. 15:01So
  330. 15:04bear with me one second.
  331. 15:11When you're describing and talking about
  332. 15:14your wife, who are we talking about?
  333. 15:16>> Elliot Williams. Okay.
  334. 15:18And how long have you and Lillian been
  335. 15:21married?
  336. 15:22>> 26 years. We 26 years in December.
  337. 15:34You say would be 26 in December.
  338. 15:37>> December 20.
  339. 15:42And
  340. 15:45you said that she's cheated on you three
  341. 15:47times in the past.
  342. 15:50I don't know if it was the same guy.
  343. 15:54I didn't actually see him in the act,
  344. 15:56but she would disappear five or six
  345. 15:59hours. And uh I caught her lying to me
  346. 16:03one time. She was over at moral house
  347. 16:04with her ex upstairs and she didn't have
  348. 16:06nothing more but a night gown. And I and
  349. 16:09I surprised her cuz she didn't know I
  350. 16:11was in town. And I came home and she
  351. 16:14wasn't there. So I went over her
  352. 16:15mother's and knocked on the door and her
  353. 16:18brother answered the door. And I said,
  354. 16:21"Where is Lil?" He said, "Upstairs."
  355. 16:24So I said, "Go back down the basement,
  356. 16:26Raymond." Cuz I saw her car out there,
  357. 16:29her ex, her daughter's phone. And
  358. 16:35cuz she worked at downtown Internal
  359. 16:37Revenue. And I said,
  360. 16:39>> "Who worked at?"
  361. 16:40>> My wife
  362. 16:41>> Lillian worked at
  363. 16:43>> That's where she retired from. She
  364. 16:45retired because of me. You know what I
  365. 16:48mean? She she she didn't have to work no
  366. 16:50more. So, um, she came down and I rang
  367. 16:56the bell. She came downstairs
  368. 16:59on and I looked and I said,
  369. 17:04What are you doing? Oh, I said, "No." I
  370. 17:07said, "Where did you just coming from?"
  371. 17:09Cuz I can see through the curtain. She
  372. 17:11said, "From your kitchen making a
  373. 17:12sandwich." I said, "Just now." She said,
  374. 17:15"Yeah." I said, "No, you didn't."
  375. 17:19I said, "You just came from upstairs
  376. 17:23bank up there. You lied to me."
  377. 17:27And I said,
  378. 17:30"You lied." And I got my card and I came
  379. 17:33home. Two hours later she came back and
  380. 17:36I said and she tried to justify. She
  381. 17:40said, "Well, I was tired." And I said,
  382. 17:41"Why you just didn't come home and lay
  383. 17:44down if you was tired?" "Oh, David." And
  384. 17:47she would always brush [ __ ] off. And I
  385. 17:49said, "Uh, why'd you lie to me?" I said,
  386. 17:53"You supposed to be a woman of God. I'm
  387. 17:55a man of God. Why are you lying to your
  388. 17:57husband?"
  389. 18:00Well, I didn't want you to get upset.
  390. 18:03What did you think I was going to do if
  391. 18:05I caught you in an eye? I forgave her
  392. 18:08that. That was early in our marriage.
  393. 18:11>> So, how when you say early, how many
  394. 18:13years?
  395. 18:14>> We had been married about 5 years, I
  396. 18:16guess.
  397. 18:16>> Okay.
  398. 18:18And um
  399. 18:22the next time that I
  400. 18:25when she didn't FaceTime,
  401. 18:27she sounded so funny when I called her
  402. 18:31and uh
  403. 18:35I I called her. I was on the road and I
  404. 18:38said, "Hey."
  405. 18:40And I was calling her for like 2 hours
  406. 18:44and she said, "Uh,
  407. 18:46finally she answered and she sounded not
  408. 18:50like herself."
  409. 18:52And I said, "Where you at? I'm overas."
  410. 18:55I said, "Faceetime me." She hung the
  411. 18:58phone up on me and I didn't hear from
  412. 19:00for five hours.
  413. 19:02I'm like, "What the hell is going on?"
  414. 19:04So I I was going to make leave it in.
  415. 19:06And we had this big argument and um
  416. 19:13and I always, you know, I go on my mom's
  417. 19:16cuz I'm on the road. She's no need to me
  418. 19:17getting no apartment cuz I be going I
  419. 19:20mean, and this was supposed to be my
  420. 19:22last year on the road.
  421. 19:25>> Would she go with you when you travel?
  422. 19:26>> No, she wouldn't. She went one time and
  423. 19:28she didn't like the truck. She don't
  424. 19:30like the way I used to drive. I she
  425. 19:32wanted to go to malls and do all this
  426. 19:35stuff and
  427. 19:36>> so were you an independent owner
  428. 19:37operator?
  429. 19:38>> I was independent when we first got
  430. 19:40married, you know, but um now I work for
  431. 19:42a company and um
  432. 19:45>> who do you work for?
  433. 19:46>> Atlantic Transport
  434. 19:48and uh
  435. 19:51this last time, man, you know,
  436. 19:55I I called her while she was in the
  437. 19:57doctor's office.
  438. 20:01This is before I came home. And and she
  439. 20:04I said, "Where you at?" She said, "I'm
  440. 20:06in the doctor's office. I'll call you
  441. 20:08when I get out." I said, "Okay."
  442. 20:13So, she called me
  443. 20:16and we was talking
  444. 20:19and all of a sudden, just like that, she
  445. 20:21said, "I call you back." Click up. I'm
  446. 20:24like, "What the hell is this?" Said,
  447. 20:27"You know, I'm on the road. Maybe some
  448. 20:30she didn't want me to hear somebody's
  449. 20:31voice or somebody, you know, I don't
  450. 20:33know. I don't know. I shouldn't have to
  451. 20:36worry about that. You call yourself a
  452. 20:38woman of God. And so, um,
  453. 20:435 hours before I heard from her again,
  454. 20:46she sent me a text and man, she goes,
  455. 20:50"Still no call." So, I called her. She
  456. 20:53answered the phone.
  457. 20:56I said, "What are you doing?"
  458. 20:59And that's when I said, I told her, it's
  459. 21:01a week before I came home. I said,
  460. 21:03"Listen, no, it was two weeks." I said,
  461. 21:06"Listen,
  462. 21:08I don't know what you're doing or who
  463. 21:10you doing, but you can do it. Don't call
  464. 21:13me no more while I'm on the road and I'm
  465. 21:16not going to call you." I said, "Because
  466. 21:18I'm a truck driver. I can't be worrying
  467. 21:20about what you're doing. I'm hauling
  468. 21:22freight, a lot of heavy freight. So, you
  469. 21:26go ahead and I'll talk to you when I get
  470. 21:28home.
  471. 21:31I said, "Cuz I'm not I'm not can't do
  472. 21:32this with you no more." So,
  473. 21:35um, she always
  474. 21:38when I was going to leave, she would
  475. 21:40always try to stop me. And so, this time
  476. 21:44when I came home, I said, "Well, I got a
  477. 21:47doctor's appointment. I had one."
  478. 21:51I see. I went to the doctor
  479. 21:55today. That was this. No, yesterday.
  480. 21:58>> Monday.
  481. 21:59>> Monday. No, Monday. I went to
  482. 22:02>> Today, right now Tuesday,
  483. 22:04>> right? What What's today's date? No, not
  484. 22:06not not It's after 12:00. So, this
  485. 22:09morning I went to the doctor.
  486. 22:12>> So, on June 30th, you went
  487. 22:14>> That was Yeah, that was the doctor.
  488. 22:18Then I have an appointment the 2nd
  489. 22:23and then the next one is the 15th of
  490. 22:26July. So I said, "Well, I'm just going
  491. 22:28to stay here until Wednesday." It's
  492. 22:30Wednesday the 2nd. That's my next
  493. 22:32appointment. And I said, "Well, I'm just
  494. 22:35going to stay here
  495. 22:37until Wednesday."
  496. 22:40And and this what I told her tonight cuz
  497. 22:42she was just running all like, "Oh, when
  498. 22:45I came home from my daughter house, oh,
  499. 22:48you been out there talking about me and
  500. 22:50you telling everybody my business?
  501. 22:54Nobody was talking about you. I was over
  502. 22:55there talking to my grandson, my
  503. 22:58granddaughter.
  504. 22:59I wasn't Nobody was thinking about you.
  505. 23:02If you're going to leave me, leave now."
  506. 23:04And I said, "Look, go ahead." So I
  507. 23:06closed the door. I made me peanut butter
  508. 23:09and jelly sandwich and I closed the door
  509. 23:13and she kept running her mouth and
  510. 23:14running her mouth
  511. 23:17and
  512. 23:20I forgot. I wasn't even thinking about
  513. 23:22the gun,
  514. 23:24but she opened the door and I was
  515. 23:27shocked cuz she's left-handed.
  516. 23:31I always call her lefty.
  517. 23:34And uh she was pointing a gun at me and
  518. 23:36I was like, "Please, you couldn't hit me
  519. 23:38if you tried." I said, "What you gonna
  520. 23:41you said you don't want to go to jail
  521. 23:42because they gonna have to take your
  522. 23:43weave off and you going to be
  523. 23:45baldheaded." And uh and she just kept
  524. 23:48running her mouth and I got her
  525. 23:49attention like with the the jail. And
  526. 23:53then I grabbed the gun, you know, and it
  527. 23:57went off and uh
  528. 24:02Okay.
  529. 24:04So,
  530. 24:04>> so I don't I don't
  531. 24:08>> So, when did you get home from your last
  532. 24:10trip?
  533. 24:12>> When I just came home.
  534. 24:16See, I didn't even know.
  535. 24:19>> Thursday.
  536. 24:21>> Last Thursday.
  537. 24:22>> Yeah.
  538. 24:23>> Okay.
  539. 24:24>> I got home Thursday. Delivered in LA,
  540. 24:27Maryland.
  541. 24:28I was supposed to get it off that
  542. 24:30Friday, but I got there Thursday and
  543. 24:32they took it off early.
  544. 24:34And then my wife picked me up from the
  545. 24:36truck.
  546. 24:37>> I parked at the um Maryland house and
  547. 24:41she came and picked me up. We didn't
  548. 24:42kiss. We didn't speak. She knew I you
  549. 24:46know.
  550. 24:49>> And how long have you guys been sleeping
  551. 24:51in separate rooms?
  552. 24:52>> Since I got home.
  553. 24:54>> So that that's just something recent.
  554. 24:56>> Yeah.
  555. 24:57>> Since Thursday. We would do it
  556. 24:59periodically when we would have
  557. 25:00arguments, she would always go to the
  558. 25:02bathroom because I told her I ain't
  559. 25:03never leaving on my room.
  560. 25:05>> So when you get to the top of the stairs
  561. 25:07>> to the left is my room. To the right is
  562. 25:09hers.
  563. 25:10>> That that very first room.
  564. 25:11>> No, that's the that's her computer room.
  565. 25:13>> So the one
  566. 25:14>> all the way down to the left.
  567. 25:16>> To the left.
  568. 25:17>> Yeah.
  569. 25:17>> Okay. All right.
  570. 25:18>> But she's always on the computer. I
  571. 25:21mean, she's addicted to Tik Tok and
  572. 25:24all that stuff. So then today you
  573. 25:30go and you visit your grandchildren.
  574. 25:31>> Yeah. The day I cuz cuz my grandson
  575. 25:35wasn't home
  576. 25:38so him and his buddies was
  577. 25:42working out and um
  578. 25:46so cuz I called him about about 3:30
  579. 25:50and he said no pap I'm not home yet. I
  580. 25:54said what time you going to be home? say
  581. 25:55about 5. So I came home and went to bed.
  582. 26:00I went to bed and my wife was downstairs
  583. 26:03looking at TV.
  584. 26:05This is why I don't know how she flipped
  585. 26:07out because she was cool about the about
  586. 26:10me leaving Wednesday.
  587. 26:13But when I left out
  588. 26:15at cuz my grandson called me like at
  589. 26:186:00. I'm home papa. I'm coming around.
  590. 26:22And I said, "Dad, boy, I'm in bed." But
  591. 26:24yeah, I'll come around. So, I left the
  592. 26:26house at 6 I guess I got over there
  593. 26:29about 6:30, 6:38,
  594. 26:33something like that. And I stayed over
  595. 26:35there for like 2 hours
  596. 26:40cuz it was dark, it was raining,
  597. 26:44so it's probably about two two hours. I
  598. 26:48got home about 8:45,
  599. 26:51something like that. And then I had to
  600. 26:54and and I couldn't I was pissed
  601. 26:59because my wife locked the garage door
  602. 27:03and so she had to,
  603. 27:07you know, we got this thing where you
  604. 27:08can put up under the door handle.
  605. 27:10>> Oh, the front door.
  606. 27:11>> The front door. Okay.
  607. 27:12>> You know, she bought something on
  608. 27:14Amazon. And so, um, I had to
  609. 27:19I was calling the phone, calling the
  610. 27:21house phone. She wouldn't answer. No,
  611. 27:23she in there. So, I had to literally
  612. 27:27bang the door open
  613. 27:29and I said, "Kill, what? Go back where
  614. 27:33you came from." And I said, "I was
  615. 27:36around the corner seeing my
  616. 27:37grandchildren."
  617. 27:40And that's, you know, that, you know,
  618. 27:43she flipped out. But then I told her I
  619. 27:45had to leave cuz I went to get I was
  620. 27:48going to Royal Phone to get cigarettes.
  621. 27:50But I remembered I had cigarettes in my
  622. 27:53I had a carton in my truck. And um
  623. 27:58so
  624. 28:01you get home about 8:30, you try to get
  625. 28:04in the house, you can't. So you you kick
  626. 28:06the door in because she has something up
  627. 28:08against the inside.
  628. 28:09>> Yeah.
  629. 28:11>> You have you have words, you know.
  630. 28:13>> No. Well, yeah. Yeah.
  631. 28:15>> I'm not saying you're fighting, but
  632. 28:17you've got words. She's got a lot of
  633. 28:19them.
  634. 28:20>> Okay. So, is that when you made the
  635. 28:22peanut butter and jelly sandwiches?
  636. 28:24>> I made Yeah.
  637. 28:25>> You got home at 8:30?
  638. 28:27>> Well, since she when I got home, Yeah.
  639. 28:29we had words, but she had to get on the
  640. 28:32phone to talk. She was talking to AT&T
  641. 28:35cuz the alarm system went blank cuz of
  642. 28:37the storm. We didn't have nothing. No,
  643. 28:40no alarm system. And so she was on the
  644. 28:43phone and I was making sandwiches
  645. 28:46and I made four peanut butter jelly
  646. 28:47sandwiches and went upstairs and put my
  647. 28:50pajamas on, got in my bed and I was
  648. 28:54watching TV, FBI, I think matter of
  649. 28:56fact, whatever time they come on, but I
  650. 28:59didn't see the beginning of it, but
  651. 29:00that's what I was watching. And um
  652. 29:05>> then she comes to the door.
  653. 29:07>> She went Yeah. She opened the door and
  654. 29:10just started you and with a suitcase.
  655. 29:13You ain't got to wait till Wednesday. I
  656. 29:15want you out of here now.
  657. 29:17>> She had a suitcase.
  658. 29:18>> Yeah. She put brought the suitcase in my
  659. 29:20room.
  660. 29:21>> She had a suitcase for you to pack your
  661. 29:23>> Yeah. I said, "I'm not going nowhere
  662. 29:25tonight. I told you I'm leaving
  663. 29:26Wednesday cuz I got a doctor's
  664. 29:29appointment out here." So,
  665. 29:32>> And did she have it at that point?
  666. 29:34>> No.
  667. 29:34>> No. So she went back, kept talking
  668. 29:37throughout the whole time and I got back
  669. 29:39up and closed the door
  670. 29:42and I was looking at TV
  671. 29:44and uh she came in there yelling and
  672. 29:47screaming and um with this gun and I I
  673. 29:52was shocked.
  674. 29:53>> What kind of gun was it?
  675. 29:55>> It's either a 38 or 357.
  676. 29:59>> Okay. Now, is it a semi-automatic or
  677. 30:01>> No, this one. It's old.
  678. 30:04>> What color is it?
  679. 30:06>> It's It's like gray and brown.
  680. 30:09>> Okay.
  681. 30:10>> The handle's brown and it's gray. I
  682. 30:13think it's a 38. See, 38 or 357.
  683. 30:17She went to the gun range before, but
  684. 30:21>> now this might sound silly, but I'm
  685. 30:23going to ask it anyway.
  686. 30:25>> Did you finish your sandwiches?
  687. 30:27Um, by the time she done Yeah, I think
  688. 30:30Well, I don't know if I finished. I
  689. 30:32think Yeah, because I take the edges
  690. 30:34off. Yeah, because I was watching FBI. I
  691. 30:36finished my sandwiches and I was sitting
  692. 30:38in the bed.
  693. 30:39>> Did you take the edges off before you
  694. 30:40went up to your room or you took it off
  695. 30:43while you were
  696. 30:43>> No, I take my ed just the top part.
  697. 30:46>> Yeah.
  698. 30:46>> Yeah, cuz it's too tough.
  699. 30:48>> I do the same thing.
  700. 30:49>> Yeah, I take it off.
  701. 30:51>> Did you do that in your bedroom or you
  702. 30:52did that?
  703. 30:52>> I did that in my bedroom. Well, no, wait
  704. 30:54a minute. I'm sorry. I did that in my
  705. 30:56kitchen. I took the top off in the
  706. 30:59kitchen.
  707. 30:59>> Then when I got upstairs and I was
  708. 31:01eating it, then I took a little bit off
  709. 31:04the sides.
  710. 31:05>> Did you have it on a plate or anything?
  711. 31:06>> Paper plate. Still in it. Should be
  712. 31:09still in my room.
  713. 31:10>> Okay. So, she shows up the second time
  714. 31:14at the door with the gun.
  715. 31:15>> Yeah. She opened the door and say, "I
  716. 31:17want you out of here now." And I
  717. 31:21>> And which hand did she have the gun in?
  718. 31:22>> In her left hand.
  719. 31:23>> In her left. Okay. And is she in the
  720. 31:26doorway? Is she inside?
  721. 31:27>> She's in the doorway. And I got up and I
  722. 31:30start walking towards her like, "You
  723. 31:32going to shoot me? What? You going to
  724. 31:33shoot me? You know, you said you don't
  725. 31:35want to go to jail cuz they going to
  726. 31:37have to take that weave off and
  727. 31:38everybody know you bald. So you going to
  728. 31:40shoot me?" And when I got close enough,
  729. 31:42I grabbed it and went back a little bit
  730. 31:44right by the steps and the gun went off.
  731. 31:49Now, were you on the window side of the
  732. 31:52bed or the door side of the bed?
  733. 31:55>> The door side of the bed. Yeah, I always
  734. 31:56sleep. That's where I sleep at.
  735. 31:58>> Okay.
  736. 31:58>> Closer to the door.
  737. 31:59>> Okay.
  738. 32:01>> And uh
  739. 32:01>> so you're out in the hallway near the
  740. 32:03steps.
  741. 32:04>> Right.
  742. 32:05>> So, if if I'm her and I have the gun,
  743. 32:08where's the gun pointed?
  744. 32:09>> It's pointed at me.
  745. 32:10>> At you, right? And what do you
  746. 32:11>> And I grabbed did like this and tried to
  747. 32:14push her away and grab the gun and it
  748. 32:16went off. Okay.
  749. 32:18It went off. No.
  750. 32:20>> And then when the gun goes off, what
  751. 32:22happens?
  752. 32:23>> She fell.
  753. 32:25>> And where did she fall at?
  754. 32:27>> Right there by the in the hall and in
  755. 32:30the computer room cuz the computer room
  756. 32:32was right by the steps. And she fell
  757. 32:35there and I said, "Li."
  758. 32:38Then I seen all this blood.
  759. 32:42And I freaked out. I ain't never seen
  760. 32:44that much blood. I freaked out.
  761. 32:47I freaked out. I freaked the [ __ ] out,
  762. 32:49man.
  763. 32:50>> Did you know where she was shot at?
  764. 32:52>> No. I wouldn't even turn over cuz I
  765. 32:54ain't want to look at her.
  766. 32:56>> Was she on her on her stomach, on her
  767. 32:58back, or
  768. 32:59>> She was like this. She was this part of
  769. 33:02her body was on on the ground.
  770. 33:04>> She kind of face down.
  771. 33:06>> She was. And her, you know, and her legs
  772. 33:08were kind of crossed or on top of each
  773. 33:12other.
  774. 33:13>> And then what did you do at that point?
  775. 33:15>> I panic.
  776. 33:17What did you do?
  777. 33:18>> I got the gun. I picked the gun up cuz
  778. 33:21the gun and eventually fell and I
  779. 33:24grabbed the gun and
  780. 33:28said I I think I kept trying to wake her
  781. 33:31up
  782. 33:33for like 10 minutes
  783. 33:36since she wasn't responding.
  784. 33:40And I kept
  785. 33:42jabbing. And I said, "Li."
  786. 33:45And
  787. 33:47she wasn't moving.
  788. 33:52And
  789. 33:54And I grabbed my medicine and I I said,
  790. 33:57"I'm running." I was going to run.
  791. 34:00Medicine for what?
  792. 34:16>> Were you still in your pajamas?
  793. 34:18>> No. Oh, no. I wasn't in my pajamas. So,
  794. 34:21>> you changed your clothes?
  795. 34:23>> Yeah. I had I just slipped these pants
  796. 34:25on that head early.
  797. 34:26>> Grabbed your medicine. You were going to
  798. 34:27run. and I was going to run and I was
  799. 34:30driving down
  800. 34:3395 and I called some this girl I know
  801. 34:37and um she's a real good friend
  802. 34:41and I told her that I was in trouble
  803. 34:46and I didn't tell her who
  804. 34:50I told her I said
  805. 34:52I was in a fight the argument guy pulled
  806. 34:55a gun out on me and I grabbed it and
  807. 34:57went off and shot him. And I told her,
  808. 35:00"I got to leave.
  809. 35:03There's a lot of witnesses."
  810. 35:07She said, "Well,
  811. 35:09you nobody saw you."
  812. 35:12And I said, "No,
  813. 35:16I'm not coming there."
  814. 35:20I said, "But I did it and I'm going to
  815. 35:23deal with the consequences cuz I'll be
  816. 35:25convicted wherever I go. or I won't be
  817. 35:27able to live with myself. I know I know
  818. 35:30how the Holy I know how the spirit deals
  819. 35:33with me.
  820. 35:34And um
  821. 35:39and so I I was coming back home and I
  822. 35:43stopped by the woods and I got out and I
  823. 35:45threw the gun
  824. 35:48in those woods.
  825. 35:50>> Did you throw it in the woods or in the
  826. 35:52stream or
  827. 35:52>> I don't even know, man. It was dark. I
  828. 35:54just threw it.
  829. 35:56>> I don't know where it landed. It was
  830. 35:58pitch black outside.
  831. 36:00>> So, I'm just I'm just going to draw.
  832. 36:02>> So, I'm quite sure you'll find it. There
  833. 36:05ain't nobody going out there.
  834. 36:11>> So, this is the road to your
  835. 36:12development, right?
  836. 36:14>> So, if you come out of your development,
  837. 36:16make a right.
  838. 36:17>> You make a right. And then we'll just
  839. 36:19say
  840. 36:20>> do it on this side cuz I was coming back
  841. 36:22this way.
  842. 36:23>> And I pull it over
  843. 36:24>> on this side.
  844. 36:25>> Yeah.
  845. 36:25>> Now, were you on the bridge or at the
  846. 36:28bridge?
  847. 36:29>> At the bridge. I wasn't on it.
  848. 36:30>> Okay. Were you on this side of the
  849. 36:33bridge or
  850. 36:33>> Yes, on that side of the bridge.
  851. 36:35>> On this side of the bridge.
  852. 36:36>> Yeah.
  853. 36:37>> And you threw it on that side
  854. 36:39>> in the in the woods, you think?
  855. 36:42>> Yes.
  856. 36:43>> How far did you think you threw it?
  857. 36:45>> Not far. You just kind of toss it or did
  858. 36:47you I give it a real good
  859. 36:48>> No, I didn't give it a real good
  860. 36:49nothing. I was
  861. 36:52>> I was just totally discombobulated, man.
  862. 36:54I like
  863. 36:58I just I just had to tell the truth. I
  864. 37:01can't live with that lie. My damn wife.
  865. 37:03Yeah. Can you tell me is she all right?
  866. 37:06>> No, sir. She's died.
  867. 37:08>> Oh, come on, man.
  868. 37:10No, man. Come on with that [ __ ]
  869. 37:13man.
  870. 37:16The [ __ ] you talking about? She died,
  871. 37:18man. God,
  872. 37:23don't tell me that [ __ ] babe.
  873. 37:27How the [ __ ] did she die?
  874. 37:31She She died. What? She She was dead in
  875. 37:33there.
  876. 37:34>> Yes.
  877. 37:37>> Oh, [ __ ] man.
  878. 37:43You wanted to die, man.
  879. 37:48You wanted to die, man. I wanted to die.
  880. 37:51Lord, please forgive me.
  881. 37:57Jesus. Lord. Jesus.
  882. 38:01Man,
  883. 38:03can't believe she died, man.
  884. 38:07We had arguments, but
  885. 38:13>> I know you said that you guys had some
  886. 38:16issues in the past and she would hit you
  887. 38:18and stuff.
  888. 38:19>> Oh, she was she been a fighter all her
  889. 38:21life, man.
  890. 38:22>> Was the police ever called your house
  891. 38:24for anything? Any kind of domestic
  892. 38:26issues or
  893. 38:29>> I haven't looked yet, so I just fig
  894. 38:31>> I don't know.
  895. 38:33I think me and her was having an
  896. 38:35argument one time and her daughter
  897. 38:37called the police and her daughter
  898. 38:39wasn't even there. She just heard us
  899. 38:41arguing over the phone
  900. 38:43and uh I was in the bed.
  901. 38:46>> How long ago was that?
  902. 38:47>> And that was that's probably about 20
  903. 38:49years ago.
  904. 38:53>> Have you always lived there on
  905. 38:56>> 2001?
  906. 38:58>> Okay.
  907. 39:00[ __ ] You going to sit up here and tell
  908. 39:01me she died, man?
  909. 39:06[ __ ] man. I'm not going to lie to you,
  910. 39:08sir.
  911. 39:13>> You said you were going to be a man and
  912. 39:14tell me the truth.
  913. 39:15>> I had to, man. I had to. I can't live
  914. 39:18with that.
  915. 39:19>> I'm not going to sit here and tell you
  916. 39:20she she's okay when she's not.
  917. 39:28Jesus.
  918. 39:31>> Can I ask you a question?
  919. 39:34>> Why didn't you call 911?
  920. 39:36>> I did call 911.
  921. 39:37>> I mean I mean when it happened,
  922. 39:41I panicked.
  923. 39:43I just panicked. I seen all that blood
  924. 39:47was splattered on the wall.
  925. 39:51And uh I actually I thought she was
  926. 39:53going to get up and call the police.
  927. 39:56And then when I came back and she was
  928. 39:58still there,
  929. 40:01I mean, I called 911.
  930. 40:05>> So you said after after you had that
  931. 40:08tussle with the gun and it went off. It
  932. 40:10was about 10 minutes until you left the
  933. 40:12house.
  934. 40:15>> I don't know how long. No, I think I
  935. 40:18left before 10 minutes. Okay.
  936. 40:20>> I tried to wake up, tried to get up off
  937. 40:22the floor.
  938. 40:25So when you left the house until you
  939. 40:27came back, how long do you think that
  940. 40:29was?
  941. 40:29>> I was going 30 minutes, maybe 28. I
  942. 40:33wasn't going that long.
  943. 40:35>> Okay.
  944. 40:36>> I went to I went to I went to
  945. 40:41to get on the highway and then I got on
  946. 40:4495 and then I took exit 74 and came back
  947. 40:48home.
  948. 40:51I guess it about 10 minutes, 15 minutes.
  949. 40:59This is This is not right.
  950. 41:09>> Um,
  951. 41:11what what pajamas were you wearing when
  952. 41:14this happened?
  953. 41:16>> Um,
  954. 41:17my the black and white ones. They should
  955. 41:21be in the in the um
  956. 41:24right there in the in my vehicle with
  957. 41:27the um
  958. 41:28>> Is it
  959. 41:29>> with the white shirt?
  960. 41:31>> So, black and white bottoms, pants.
  961. 41:34>> Mhm.
  962. 41:34>> And a white shirt.
  963. 41:36>> Black and gray pants.
  964. 41:38>> Black and gray pants and a white shirt.
  965. 41:40>> Yeah.
  966. 41:41>> T-shirt or
  967. 41:42>> It's a long shirt. It's got
  968. 41:45Chinese I mean spaghetti sauce on it or
  969. 41:48something. I spilled on when I was
  970. 41:49eating dirty.
  971. 41:50>> Is that on your that on your bed or on
  972. 41:52the floor or?
  973. 41:53>> No, that's on my shirt.
  974. 41:54>> No, I mean your clothes.
  975. 41:56>> Oh, it's probably I don't know where I
  976. 42:00put it. Probably on the bed on
  977. 42:02right there. Just easily see it. See the
  978. 42:06bed on the chair or it's in there.
  979. 42:16Is there anything else, sir, that you
  980. 42:19think we need to know right now?
  981. 42:27>> I can't believe this.
  982. 42:31>> Well, we're going to step out of the
  983. 42:32room for a little bit.
  984. 42:33>> Can I use that bathroom?
  985. 42:34>> Yeah, we'll we'll get you to the
  986. 42:35bathroom.
  987. 42:37>> Yeah.
  988. 42:38>> You need something to eat or
  989. 42:40>> No, I ain't took no medicine.
  990. 42:42tonight. But I ain't ate a whole lot. I
  991. 42:45only ate four peanut butter and jelly
  992. 42:46sandwich.
  993. 42:48>> That's a lot of sugar.
  994. 42:50>> What?
  995. 42:51>> Peanut butter and the jelly.
  996. 42:52>> Well, the jelly I just put a thin layer
  997. 42:55of jelly on. But uh
  998. 42:57>> Oh, I can't eat just a little bit of
  999. 42:58jelly. Peanut butter.
  1000. 42:59>> I do. I I do because this
  1001. 43:09>> Oh, this is good.
  1002. 43:10>> We'll get you. We'll get you to the
  1003. 43:12bathroom and we're going to bring you
  1004. 43:13back in. Um then we got to chitchat for
  1005. 43:15a little bit
  1006. 43:16>> and we'll let you know where we're going
  1007. 43:18from here. Okay.
  1008. 43:19>> All right. All right.
  1009. 43:21>> We'll get you to the to the
  1010. 43:24>> You can leave your water here because
  1011. 43:26back in
  1012. 43:44Following the interrogation, David
  1013. 43:45Williams remained charged in the death
  1014. 43:47of his wife, Lillian Williams. The case
  1015. 43:50moved forward in the circuit court for
  1016. 43:51Harford County. Prosecutors said Lillian
  1017. 43:54was shot and killed upstairs inside the
  1018. 43:56couple's Abington home on June 30th,
  1019. 43:582025.
  1020. 44:00At trial, the state presented evidence
  1021. 44:02that Williams was the only other person
  1022. 44:04inside the residence at the time of the
  1023. 44:05shooting. Prosecutors also said that
  1024. 44:08after the shooting, Williams left the
  1025. 44:10home, discarded the gun in a wooded
  1026. 44:12area, returned about an hour later, and
  1027. 44:14then called 911. Williams went to trial
  1028. 44:17in April of 2026.
  1029. 44:20On April 17th, 2026, after a 5-day jury
  1030. 44:24trial before Judge Alex Almond, he was
  1031. 44:26found guilty of first-degree murder, use
  1032. 44:28of a firearm in a felony or crime of
  1033. 44:30violence, possession of a regulated
  1034. 44:32firearm by a prohibited person,
  1035. 44:34possession of ammunition by a prohibited
  1036. 44:36person, and impairing the availability
  1037. 44:38of physical evidence. After the verdict,
  1038. 44:41Williams remained in custody at the
  1039. 44:43Harford County Detention Center. As of
  1040. 44:45the state's attorney's April 17th, 2026
  1041. 44:48release, a sentencing date had not yet
  1042. 44:51been listed. The court was expected to
  1043. 44:53schedule that hearing after the
  1044. 44:55completion of a pre-sentence
  1045. 44:56investigation.
  1046. 44:58If you found this video informative,
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  1049. 45:03helps support our work and allows us to
  1050. 45:05continue covering important stories like
  1051. 45:07this one. Thank you.

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