The Call Came an Hour Later | David Williams Interrogation — Transcript
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- 0:00And is she in the doorway? Is she
- 0:02inside?
- 0:02>> She's in the doorway. And I got up and I
- 0:05start walking towards her like, "You
- 0:07going to shoot me? What? You going to
- 0:08shoot me? You know, you said you don't
- 0:10want to go to jail cuz they're going to
- 0:12have to take that weave off and
- 0:13everybody know you bald."
- 0:18On the night of June 30th, 2025, a call
- 0:22came into Harford County dispatch
- 0:24reporting a shooting at a home in the
- 0:262,800 block of Binham Overlook Drive in
- 0:29Abington, Maryland. Deputies with the
- 0:31Harford County Sheriff's Office arrived
- 0:33just before 11 p.m. At the scene, they
- 0:36found 64year-old Lillian Williams
- 0:38suffering from a gunshot wound.
- 0:41Emergency help was too late. She was
- 0:43pronounced dead at the scene. The case
- 0:45was turned over to detectives with the
- 0:47sheriff's office criminal investigations
- 0:49division. Forensic personnel also
- 0:51responded and investigators began
- 0:54working through what had happened inside
- 0:55the home that night. The person closest
- 0:58to Lillian was her husband, David
- 1:00Williams. As detectives gathered
- 1:02information at the scene, he became
- 1:05someone they needed to speak with
- 1:06directly. Before the full picture of
- 1:08that night could be understood,
- 1:10investigators wanted his account of what
- 1:12happened, what he saw, and what led up
- 1:16to the shooting. They brought David
- 1:18Williams in, sat him down, and began
- 1:20asking questions about the night his
- 1:21wife was killed. This is the
- 1:23interrogation of David Williams.
- 1:32>> Mr. Williams,
- 1:34I'm Detective Golden with the Sheriff's
- 1:35Office. This is technic
- 1:39this table over just a little bit. Watch
- 1:41your water there. I don't want to spill
- 1:43on you.
- 1:47>> I'm not as skinny as I used to be. So,
- 1:49need a little extra room.
- 1:52>> Just so you know, I don't know if
- 1:54anybody told you. Everything in this
- 1:55room is visually recorded. Okay.
- 2:06So,
- 2:09we all know why we're here, right?
- 2:13>> Huh?
- 2:14>> Um, we'll get into all that in just a
- 2:17little bit. All right. Um, because you
- 2:20were brought here in a police car in
- 2:22handcuffs, which is our policy.
- 2:24>> Um, and because we don't know exactly
- 2:26what's going on here,
- 2:28>> I'm just going to advise you of your
- 2:29rights.
- 2:30>> Okay. And then we can talk after that.
- 2:32All right.
- 2:48>> All right. Mr. Williams, can you read?
- 2:50>> Yeah.
- 2:50>> I only asked that to insult your
- 2:52intelligence. I'll explain why I asked
- 2:54that in just a moment. And how far did
- 2:56you go with your education?
- 2:58>> 1200.
- 2:59>> Okay. So no college
- 3:02but
- 3:02>> okay that's more than I had. So you got
- 3:05me B.
- 3:12Okay.
- 3:14The reason I ask if you can read I'm
- 3:16going to read this to you.
- 3:17>> Okay.
- 3:17>> Okay.
- 3:18>> Feel free to follow along if you can.
- 3:20Okay. Again, my name is Detective Golden
- 3:23of the Harford County Sheriff's Office.
- 3:25I wish to advise you that you have the
- 3:27right to remain silent. Anything you say
- 3:30can and will be used against you in a
- 3:32court of law. You have the right to an
- 3:34attorney and have the attorney with you
- 3:36during questioning. If you cannot afford
- 3:38an attorney, one will be appointed to
- 3:40represent you before any questioning. If
- 3:43at any time during questioning you want
- 3:46to stop and remain silent, you have the
- 3:48right to do so. Question number one
- 3:51says, do you understand what I have just
- 3:53told you?
- 3:54>> Yes. If you can mark yes
- 3:58the first block there and then put your
- 4:00initials right here sir.
- 4:04The second question are you willing to
- 4:06talk to us after being advised of your
- 4:08rights?
- 4:10Yes or no?
- 4:13>> So if I put no then what?
- 4:15>> Then we're done. We don't talk
- 4:19>> and then we
- 4:22>> until we get done our investigation.
- 4:23Yes, sir.
- 4:24>> Okay.
- 4:27>> And then you can just initial and you
- 4:29checked yes. Is that correct?
- 4:31>> Mhm.
- 4:32>> Okay. Question three. Have you had any
- 4:34threats, promises, force, or has duress
- 4:38been used to have you talk to us?
- 4:41>> Okay. You can mark no again. Initial.
- 4:44And then if you can just sign this top
- 4:46line, sir.
- 4:49>> Yes, sir.
- 5:13All right.
- 5:25So,
- 5:27we're here because you got home at some
- 5:30point, I guess yesterday now, since it's
- 5:32after midnight. And you found your wife
- 5:36inside your home. Is that correct?
- 5:40>> Okay. So, if you can just take me back
- 5:44to
- 5:45>> Let me let me tell you let me explain
- 5:47something to you first.
- 5:49I'm just gonna be honest cuz I'm a man
- 5:52of God,
- 5:54you know.
- 5:57And this spirit will convict me if I
- 6:00don't sit up here and tell you the
- 6:02truth.
- 6:06I'm over the road truck driver.
- 6:10Three times
- 6:12since we were married, I attempted to
- 6:15leave my wife
- 6:18cuz she was having an affair.
- 6:22She claims that she was me.
- 6:25But
- 6:27I talk to my wife all the time. When I
- 6:30first started, when we first got
- 6:32married, I'm on the road. I would call
- 6:35my wife,
- 6:38talk to her. She tell me where she at. I
- 6:40said, "Faceetime, let me see you." She
- 6:42FaceTime me where she was at.
- 6:47So, um,
- 6:50I knew she was there by herself, so I
- 6:52made her get her permit for a gun. I
- 6:56bought her a gun and I would leave it
- 6:58with her when I on the road, cuz I be
- 7:01gone two months sometimes. Sometimes
- 7:03I'll be gone a month and a half. It
- 7:05depends on what she wanted where she
- 7:07wanted to travel. She like to travel.
- 7:10So
- 7:12everything was fine.
- 7:15I forgave her the first time,
- 7:18forgave her the second time.
- 7:21So this last time I was on the road, I
- 7:25was in Seattle, Washington.
- 7:27And uh I called my wife. She answered
- 7:31the phone
- 7:33and she was whispering and then she
- 7:35said, "I gotta go. I'll call you back."
- 7:39No, she just said, "I got to go."
- 7:42And so
- 7:44she just hung the phone up.
- 7:475 hours later,
- 7:50cuz I had been trying to call her, she
- 7:51wasn't answering the phone. 5 hours
- 7:53later,
- 7:57she answered the phone.
- 8:00And I said, "I've been trying to call
- 8:02you for 5 hours." And he said he was
- 8:03going to call me back. But what happened
- 8:06is that she that's her daughter.
- 8:09They don't like me.
- 8:13Her she has a daughter by her guy, you
- 8:16know, relationship.
- 8:18And my children from my ex-wife don't
- 8:21like her. That's just how it is.
- 8:25So it's always a lot of tension and
- 8:27conflict there.
- 8:30Um,
- 8:34my wife let a man in the house that I
- 8:36told her not to let in the house. I
- 8:38don't know. You know, so this this time
- 8:42I said, "You know what? There's so much
- 8:44inconsistency.
- 8:46Um,
- 8:48I need to talk to you when I got home.
- 9:05and we've been sleeping in separate
- 9:07rooms
- 9:09because I told her I'm done.
- 9:14I said Wednesday. And I had a doctor's
- 9:16appointment this morning
- 9:19and I had one Monday
- 9:23and I have another one July the 15th.
- 9:30So I told her
- 9:32uh that I'm leaving her. I know my wife
- 9:36can't afford that house by herself,
- 9:40but I I told her, you know, the straw
- 9:42broke the camel's back and so my wife
- 9:45snaps a lot. She starts yelling and
- 9:48screaming and I'm like, "That's the Pop
- 9:50the Grove and Eleicant Drive coming out
- 9:52of you cuz that's where she's from." And
- 9:54um so
- 9:59um
- 10:02I came home and I told her, you know, we
- 10:04talked and she was fine with me. Go
- 10:07ahead. Go ahead. I don't care. I don't
- 10:09care. And so um she made me get off her
- 10:12insurance. So I had just got
- 10:16my own insurance cuz my car was on Geico
- 10:19with her. So I just changed it over. So,
- 10:24I don't know what happened. Um,
- 10:28she said, "Well, if you leaving me,
- 10:30leave now." I said, "I'm leaving
- 10:32Wednesday because I got another doctor's
- 10:34appointment Wednesday morning out here."
- 10:37I was going to stay with my mom. My mom
- 10:39lives all the way over.
- 10:46So,
- 10:49she just went on and on and on. And I
- 10:51went downstairs and I made me four
- 10:54peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. I
- 10:56came back up in my room, the master
- 10:58room, and she was sleeping down the
- 11:01hall, which she was just running, you
- 11:05and I had just came in from my
- 11:07daughter's.
- 11:09She was running her mouth, running her
- 11:11mouth, blah blah blah blah. And um
- 11:16she opened the door
- 11:19and she had the gun
- 11:22and I and I got up and I said, "What the
- 11:24hell you think you doing?" And I walked
- 11:26towards I said, "You think you going to
- 11:28shoot me? You think you're going to
- 11:30shoot me?" I said, "You said you don't
- 11:32want to go to jail cuz you got a weave
- 11:33on your head. They going to have to take
- 11:34it off and see that you bald." And she
- 11:37started yelling. And then I went to grab
- 11:40the gun
- 11:41and it went off.
- 11:44And I panicked
- 11:46cuz I said, "Ain't nobody going to
- 11:49believe me."
- 11:51And I got the gun and I then I threw the
- 11:54gun away. I threw it down there uh over
- 11:58the bridge.
- 12:01>> Which bridge?
- 12:02>> Right down the street from my house.
- 12:04>> Okay.
- 12:06>> You know what I'm talking about. That
- 12:07little bridge right there on Hookers
- 12:09Mill.
- 12:09>> So when you leave your development, you
- 12:10made a left. No, right.
- 12:13>> Right. Okay.
- 12:14>> And I threw the bridge. You threw the
- 12:16gun there. And I
- 12:18>> Which side of the bridge did you throw
- 12:20the gun?
- 12:20>> On the left side.
- 12:22And I panicked.
- 12:24And I was going to I was going to run.
- 12:27And then I'm I'm telling you, man. You
- 12:30know, I don't know if you guys got
- 12:32Christ in you, but if you really got the
- 12:34spirit in, man, that spirit convicts you
- 12:36worse than any jail, worse than
- 12:38anything.
- 12:40And I called a friend of mine all the
- 12:42way
- 12:46and I told her
- 12:49and uh she said, "Well, you can come
- 12:51stay here with me and the children." I
- 12:54didn't tell her exactly, you know, what
- 12:57happened.
- 12:59And I told I said, "I can't."
- 13:05I said, "I got to I got to go back and
- 13:09call the police
- 13:12and then I'mma tell them what happened.
- 13:16They're not going to believe you cuz you
- 13:18know we had a record in the past and
- 13:20this." I said, "I don't care, man. I I
- 13:23got to tell the truth." And so
- 13:29when they came when I seen all them
- 13:31police cars
- 13:34my mind went stupid again and I said I
- 13:38found it like this
- 13:40but I didn't
- 13:44I didn't find it like that and I should
- 13:48have never bought that gun and
- 13:52and that's that's what happened. I mean,
- 13:55it was an accident. She was uh she was
- 13:58yelling. She was furious. She thought I
- 14:01was out with some girl named Joanne. She
- 14:04thought I was doing this and
- 14:08and um I was telling her we going to get
- 14:12divorced and we going to have to sell
- 14:13the house and split the money. And she
- 14:15said, "I'm not leaving, man."
- 14:17She flipped out. I mean, she used to
- 14:20flip out all the time, but she never had
- 14:22a gun. She would just take a fish and
- 14:24beat on me and I never had her. I would
- 14:28just hold her
- 14:32and that's
- 14:36okay. I
- 14:39That's what happened, man. So,
- 14:42>> yeah, I mean,
- 14:43>> what what I'm going to do is I'm going
- 14:45to I'm going to tell you back what you
- 14:47told me. That way I'm sure I have it
- 14:49right and I'm I'm not misinterpreting
- 14:52something. And then I'm going to write
- 14:54some notes while I'm doing that. And I
- 14:56might have a couple questions for you
- 14:58along the way.
- 14:58>> Yeah.
- 14:59>> All right.
- 15:01So
- 15:04bear with me one second.
- 15:11When you're describing and talking about
- 15:14your wife, who are we talking about?
- 15:16>> Elliot Williams. Okay.
- 15:18And how long have you and Lillian been
- 15:21married?
- 15:22>> 26 years. We 26 years in December.
- 15:34You say would be 26 in December.
- 15:37>> December 20.
- 15:42And
- 15:45you said that she's cheated on you three
- 15:47times in the past.
- 15:50I don't know if it was the same guy.
- 15:54I didn't actually see him in the act,
- 15:56but she would disappear five or six
- 15:59hours. And uh I caught her lying to me
- 16:03one time. She was over at moral house
- 16:04with her ex upstairs and she didn't have
- 16:06nothing more but a night gown. And I and
- 16:09I surprised her cuz she didn't know I
- 16:11was in town. And I came home and she
- 16:14wasn't there. So I went over her
- 16:15mother's and knocked on the door and her
- 16:18brother answered the door. And I said,
- 16:21"Where is Lil?" He said, "Upstairs."
- 16:24So I said, "Go back down the basement,
- 16:26Raymond." Cuz I saw her car out there,
- 16:29her ex, her daughter's phone. And
- 16:35cuz she worked at downtown Internal
- 16:37Revenue. And I said,
- 16:39>> "Who worked at?"
- 16:40>> My wife
- 16:41>> Lillian worked at
- 16:43>> That's where she retired from. She
- 16:45retired because of me. You know what I
- 16:48mean? She she she didn't have to work no
- 16:50more. So, um, she came down and I rang
- 16:56the bell. She came downstairs
- 16:59on and I looked and I said,
- 17:04What are you doing? Oh, I said, "No." I
- 17:07said, "Where did you just coming from?"
- 17:09Cuz I can see through the curtain. She
- 17:11said, "From your kitchen making a
- 17:12sandwich." I said, "Just now." She said,
- 17:15"Yeah." I said, "No, you didn't."
- 17:19I said, "You just came from upstairs
- 17:23bank up there. You lied to me."
- 17:27And I said,
- 17:30"You lied." And I got my card and I came
- 17:33home. Two hours later she came back and
- 17:36I said and she tried to justify. She
- 17:40said, "Well, I was tired." And I said,
- 17:41"Why you just didn't come home and lay
- 17:44down if you was tired?" "Oh, David." And
- 17:47she would always brush [ __ ] off. And I
- 17:49said, "Uh, why'd you lie to me?" I said,
- 17:53"You supposed to be a woman of God. I'm
- 17:55a man of God. Why are you lying to your
- 17:57husband?"
- 18:00Well, I didn't want you to get upset.
- 18:03What did you think I was going to do if
- 18:05I caught you in an eye? I forgave her
- 18:08that. That was early in our marriage.
- 18:11>> So, how when you say early, how many
- 18:13years?
- 18:14>> We had been married about 5 years, I
- 18:16guess.
- 18:16>> Okay.
- 18:18And um
- 18:22the next time that I
- 18:25when she didn't FaceTime,
- 18:27she sounded so funny when I called her
- 18:31and uh
- 18:35I I called her. I was on the road and I
- 18:38said, "Hey."
- 18:40And I was calling her for like 2 hours
- 18:44and she said, "Uh,
- 18:46finally she answered and she sounded not
- 18:50like herself."
- 18:52And I said, "Where you at? I'm overas."
- 18:55I said, "Faceetime me." She hung the
- 18:58phone up on me and I didn't hear from
- 19:00for five hours.
- 19:02I'm like, "What the hell is going on?"
- 19:04So I I was going to make leave it in.
- 19:06And we had this big argument and um
- 19:13and I always, you know, I go on my mom's
- 19:16cuz I'm on the road. She's no need to me
- 19:17getting no apartment cuz I be going I
- 19:20mean, and this was supposed to be my
- 19:22last year on the road.
- 19:25>> Would she go with you when you travel?
- 19:26>> No, she wouldn't. She went one time and
- 19:28she didn't like the truck. She don't
- 19:30like the way I used to drive. I she
- 19:32wanted to go to malls and do all this
- 19:35stuff and
- 19:36>> so were you an independent owner
- 19:37operator?
- 19:38>> I was independent when we first got
- 19:40married, you know, but um now I work for
- 19:42a company and um
- 19:45>> who do you work for?
- 19:46>> Atlantic Transport
- 19:48and uh
- 19:51this last time, man, you know,
- 19:55I I called her while she was in the
- 19:57doctor's office.
- 20:01This is before I came home. And and she
- 20:04I said, "Where you at?" She said, "I'm
- 20:06in the doctor's office. I'll call you
- 20:08when I get out." I said, "Okay."
- 20:13So, she called me
- 20:16and we was talking
- 20:19and all of a sudden, just like that, she
- 20:21said, "I call you back." Click up. I'm
- 20:24like, "What the hell is this?" Said,
- 20:27"You know, I'm on the road. Maybe some
- 20:30she didn't want me to hear somebody's
- 20:31voice or somebody, you know, I don't
- 20:33know. I don't know. I shouldn't have to
- 20:36worry about that. You call yourself a
- 20:38woman of God. And so, um,
- 20:435 hours before I heard from her again,
- 20:46she sent me a text and man, she goes,
- 20:50"Still no call." So, I called her. She
- 20:53answered the phone.
- 20:56I said, "What are you doing?"
- 20:59And that's when I said, I told her, it's
- 21:01a week before I came home. I said,
- 21:03"Listen, no, it was two weeks." I said,
- 21:06"Listen,
- 21:08I don't know what you're doing or who
- 21:10you doing, but you can do it. Don't call
- 21:13me no more while I'm on the road and I'm
- 21:16not going to call you." I said, "Because
- 21:18I'm a truck driver. I can't be worrying
- 21:20about what you're doing. I'm hauling
- 21:22freight, a lot of heavy freight. So, you
- 21:26go ahead and I'll talk to you when I get
- 21:28home.
- 21:31I said, "Cuz I'm not I'm not can't do
- 21:32this with you no more." So,
- 21:35um, she always
- 21:38when I was going to leave, she would
- 21:40always try to stop me. And so, this time
- 21:44when I came home, I said, "Well, I got a
- 21:47doctor's appointment. I had one."
- 21:51I see. I went to the doctor
- 21:55today. That was this. No, yesterday.
- 21:58>> Monday.
- 21:59>> Monday. No, Monday. I went to
- 22:02>> Today, right now Tuesday,
- 22:04>> right? What What's today's date? No, not
- 22:06not not It's after 12:00. So, this
- 22:09morning I went to the doctor.
- 22:12>> So, on June 30th, you went
- 22:14>> That was Yeah, that was the doctor.
- 22:18Then I have an appointment the 2nd
- 22:23and then the next one is the 15th of
- 22:26July. So I said, "Well, I'm just going
- 22:28to stay here until Wednesday." It's
- 22:30Wednesday the 2nd. That's my next
- 22:32appointment. And I said, "Well, I'm just
- 22:35going to stay here
- 22:37until Wednesday."
- 22:40And and this what I told her tonight cuz
- 22:42she was just running all like, "Oh, when
- 22:45I came home from my daughter house, oh,
- 22:48you been out there talking about me and
- 22:50you telling everybody my business?
- 22:54Nobody was talking about you. I was over
- 22:55there talking to my grandson, my
- 22:58granddaughter.
- 22:59I wasn't Nobody was thinking about you.
- 23:02If you're going to leave me, leave now."
- 23:04And I said, "Look, go ahead." So I
- 23:06closed the door. I made me peanut butter
- 23:09and jelly sandwich and I closed the door
- 23:13and she kept running her mouth and
- 23:14running her mouth
- 23:17and
- 23:20I forgot. I wasn't even thinking about
- 23:22the gun,
- 23:24but she opened the door and I was
- 23:27shocked cuz she's left-handed.
- 23:31I always call her lefty.
- 23:34And uh she was pointing a gun at me and
- 23:36I was like, "Please, you couldn't hit me
- 23:38if you tried." I said, "What you gonna
- 23:41you said you don't want to go to jail
- 23:42because they gonna have to take your
- 23:43weave off and you going to be
- 23:45baldheaded." And uh and she just kept
- 23:48running her mouth and I got her
- 23:49attention like with the the jail. And
- 23:53then I grabbed the gun, you know, and it
- 23:57went off and uh
- 24:02Okay.
- 24:04So,
- 24:04>> so I don't I don't
- 24:08>> So, when did you get home from your last
- 24:10trip?
- 24:12>> When I just came home.
- 24:16See, I didn't even know.
- 24:19>> Thursday.
- 24:21>> Last Thursday.
- 24:22>> Yeah.
- 24:23>> Okay.
- 24:24>> I got home Thursday. Delivered in LA,
- 24:27Maryland.
- 24:28I was supposed to get it off that
- 24:30Friday, but I got there Thursday and
- 24:32they took it off early.
- 24:34And then my wife picked me up from the
- 24:36truck.
- 24:37>> I parked at the um Maryland house and
- 24:41she came and picked me up. We didn't
- 24:42kiss. We didn't speak. She knew I you
- 24:46know.
- 24:49>> And how long have you guys been sleeping
- 24:51in separate rooms?
- 24:52>> Since I got home.
- 24:54>> So that that's just something recent.
- 24:56>> Yeah.
- 24:57>> Since Thursday. We would do it
- 24:59periodically when we would have
- 25:00arguments, she would always go to the
- 25:02bathroom because I told her I ain't
- 25:03never leaving on my room.
- 25:05>> So when you get to the top of the stairs
- 25:07>> to the left is my room. To the right is
- 25:09hers.
- 25:10>> That that very first room.
- 25:11>> No, that's the that's her computer room.
- 25:13>> So the one
- 25:14>> all the way down to the left.
- 25:16>> To the left.
- 25:17>> Yeah.
- 25:17>> Okay. All right.
- 25:18>> But she's always on the computer. I
- 25:21mean, she's addicted to Tik Tok and
- 25:24all that stuff. So then today you
- 25:30go and you visit your grandchildren.
- 25:31>> Yeah. The day I cuz cuz my grandson
- 25:35wasn't home
- 25:38so him and his buddies was
- 25:42working out and um
- 25:46so cuz I called him about about 3:30
- 25:50and he said no pap I'm not home yet. I
- 25:54said what time you going to be home? say
- 25:55about 5. So I came home and went to bed.
- 26:00I went to bed and my wife was downstairs
- 26:03looking at TV.
- 26:05This is why I don't know how she flipped
- 26:07out because she was cool about the about
- 26:10me leaving Wednesday.
- 26:13But when I left out
- 26:15at cuz my grandson called me like at
- 26:186:00. I'm home papa. I'm coming around.
- 26:22And I said, "Dad, boy, I'm in bed." But
- 26:24yeah, I'll come around. So, I left the
- 26:26house at 6 I guess I got over there
- 26:29about 6:30, 6:38,
- 26:33something like that. And I stayed over
- 26:35there for like 2 hours
- 26:40cuz it was dark, it was raining,
- 26:44so it's probably about two two hours. I
- 26:48got home about 8:45,
- 26:51something like that. And then I had to
- 26:54and and I couldn't I was pissed
- 26:59because my wife locked the garage door
- 27:03and so she had to,
- 27:07you know, we got this thing where you
- 27:08can put up under the door handle.
- 27:10>> Oh, the front door.
- 27:11>> The front door. Okay.
- 27:12>> You know, she bought something on
- 27:14Amazon. And so, um, I had to
- 27:19I was calling the phone, calling the
- 27:21house phone. She wouldn't answer. No,
- 27:23she in there. So, I had to literally
- 27:27bang the door open
- 27:29and I said, "Kill, what? Go back where
- 27:33you came from." And I said, "I was
- 27:36around the corner seeing my
- 27:37grandchildren."
- 27:40And that's, you know, that, you know,
- 27:43she flipped out. But then I told her I
- 27:45had to leave cuz I went to get I was
- 27:48going to Royal Phone to get cigarettes.
- 27:50But I remembered I had cigarettes in my
- 27:53I had a carton in my truck. And um
- 27:58so
- 28:01you get home about 8:30, you try to get
- 28:04in the house, you can't. So you you kick
- 28:06the door in because she has something up
- 28:08against the inside.
- 28:09>> Yeah.
- 28:11>> You have you have words, you know.
- 28:13>> No. Well, yeah. Yeah.
- 28:15>> I'm not saying you're fighting, but
- 28:17you've got words. She's got a lot of
- 28:19them.
- 28:20>> Okay. So, is that when you made the
- 28:22peanut butter and jelly sandwiches?
- 28:24>> I made Yeah.
- 28:25>> You got home at 8:30?
- 28:27>> Well, since she when I got home, Yeah.
- 28:29we had words, but she had to get on the
- 28:32phone to talk. She was talking to AT&T
- 28:35cuz the alarm system went blank cuz of
- 28:37the storm. We didn't have nothing. No,
- 28:40no alarm system. And so she was on the
- 28:43phone and I was making sandwiches
- 28:46and I made four peanut butter jelly
- 28:47sandwiches and went upstairs and put my
- 28:50pajamas on, got in my bed and I was
- 28:54watching TV, FBI, I think matter of
- 28:56fact, whatever time they come on, but I
- 28:59didn't see the beginning of it, but
- 29:00that's what I was watching. And um
- 29:05>> then she comes to the door.
- 29:07>> She went Yeah. She opened the door and
- 29:10just started you and with a suitcase.
- 29:13You ain't got to wait till Wednesday. I
- 29:15want you out of here now.
- 29:17>> She had a suitcase.
- 29:18>> Yeah. She put brought the suitcase in my
- 29:20room.
- 29:21>> She had a suitcase for you to pack your
- 29:23>> Yeah. I said, "I'm not going nowhere
- 29:25tonight. I told you I'm leaving
- 29:26Wednesday cuz I got a doctor's
- 29:29appointment out here." So,
- 29:32>> And did she have it at that point?
- 29:34>> No.
- 29:34>> No. So she went back, kept talking
- 29:37throughout the whole time and I got back
- 29:39up and closed the door
- 29:42and I was looking at TV
- 29:44and uh she came in there yelling and
- 29:47screaming and um with this gun and I I
- 29:52was shocked.
- 29:53>> What kind of gun was it?
- 29:55>> It's either a 38 or 357.
- 29:59>> Okay. Now, is it a semi-automatic or
- 30:01>> No, this one. It's old.
- 30:04>> What color is it?
- 30:06>> It's It's like gray and brown.
- 30:09>> Okay.
- 30:10>> The handle's brown and it's gray. I
- 30:13think it's a 38. See, 38 or 357.
- 30:17She went to the gun range before, but
- 30:21>> now this might sound silly, but I'm
- 30:23going to ask it anyway.
- 30:25>> Did you finish your sandwiches?
- 30:27Um, by the time she done Yeah, I think
- 30:30Well, I don't know if I finished. I
- 30:32think Yeah, because I take the edges
- 30:34off. Yeah, because I was watching FBI. I
- 30:36finished my sandwiches and I was sitting
- 30:38in the bed.
- 30:39>> Did you take the edges off before you
- 30:40went up to your room or you took it off
- 30:43while you were
- 30:43>> No, I take my ed just the top part.
- 30:46>> Yeah.
- 30:46>> Yeah, cuz it's too tough.
- 30:48>> I do the same thing.
- 30:49>> Yeah, I take it off.
- 30:51>> Did you do that in your bedroom or you
- 30:52did that?
- 30:52>> I did that in my bedroom. Well, no, wait
- 30:54a minute. I'm sorry. I did that in my
- 30:56kitchen. I took the top off in the
- 30:59kitchen.
- 30:59>> Then when I got upstairs and I was
- 31:01eating it, then I took a little bit off
- 31:04the sides.
- 31:05>> Did you have it on a plate or anything?
- 31:06>> Paper plate. Still in it. Should be
- 31:09still in my room.
- 31:10>> Okay. So, she shows up the second time
- 31:14at the door with the gun.
- 31:15>> Yeah. She opened the door and say, "I
- 31:17want you out of here now." And I
- 31:21>> And which hand did she have the gun in?
- 31:22>> In her left hand.
- 31:23>> In her left. Okay. And is she in the
- 31:26doorway? Is she inside?
- 31:27>> She's in the doorway. And I got up and I
- 31:30start walking towards her like, "You
- 31:32going to shoot me? What? You going to
- 31:33shoot me? You know, you said you don't
- 31:35want to go to jail cuz they going to
- 31:37have to take that weave off and
- 31:38everybody know you bald. So you going to
- 31:40shoot me?" And when I got close enough,
- 31:42I grabbed it and went back a little bit
- 31:44right by the steps and the gun went off.
- 31:49Now, were you on the window side of the
- 31:52bed or the door side of the bed?
- 31:55>> The door side of the bed. Yeah, I always
- 31:56sleep. That's where I sleep at.
- 31:58>> Okay.
- 31:58>> Closer to the door.
- 31:59>> Okay.
- 32:01>> And uh
- 32:01>> so you're out in the hallway near the
- 32:03steps.
- 32:04>> Right.
- 32:05>> So, if if I'm her and I have the gun,
- 32:08where's the gun pointed?
- 32:09>> It's pointed at me.
- 32:10>> At you, right? And what do you
- 32:11>> And I grabbed did like this and tried to
- 32:14push her away and grab the gun and it
- 32:16went off. Okay.
- 32:18It went off. No.
- 32:20>> And then when the gun goes off, what
- 32:22happens?
- 32:23>> She fell.
- 32:25>> And where did she fall at?
- 32:27>> Right there by the in the hall and in
- 32:30the computer room cuz the computer room
- 32:32was right by the steps. And she fell
- 32:35there and I said, "Li."
- 32:38Then I seen all this blood.
- 32:42And I freaked out. I ain't never seen
- 32:44that much blood. I freaked out.
- 32:47I freaked out. I freaked the [ __ ] out,
- 32:49man.
- 32:50>> Did you know where she was shot at?
- 32:52>> No. I wouldn't even turn over cuz I
- 32:54ain't want to look at her.
- 32:56>> Was she on her on her stomach, on her
- 32:58back, or
- 32:59>> She was like this. She was this part of
- 33:02her body was on on the ground.
- 33:04>> She kind of face down.
- 33:06>> She was. And her, you know, and her legs
- 33:08were kind of crossed or on top of each
- 33:12other.
- 33:13>> And then what did you do at that point?
- 33:15>> I panic.
- 33:17What did you do?
- 33:18>> I got the gun. I picked the gun up cuz
- 33:21the gun and eventually fell and I
- 33:24grabbed the gun and
- 33:28said I I think I kept trying to wake her
- 33:31up
- 33:33for like 10 minutes
- 33:36since she wasn't responding.
- 33:40And I kept
- 33:42jabbing. And I said, "Li."
- 33:45And
- 33:47she wasn't moving.
- 33:52And
- 33:54And I grabbed my medicine and I I said,
- 33:57"I'm running." I was going to run.
- 34:00Medicine for what?
- 34:16>> Were you still in your pajamas?
- 34:18>> No. Oh, no. I wasn't in my pajamas. So,
- 34:21>> you changed your clothes?
- 34:23>> Yeah. I had I just slipped these pants
- 34:25on that head early.
- 34:26>> Grabbed your medicine. You were going to
- 34:27run. and I was going to run and I was
- 34:30driving down
- 34:3395 and I called some this girl I know
- 34:37and um she's a real good friend
- 34:41and I told her that I was in trouble
- 34:46and I didn't tell her who
- 34:50I told her I said
- 34:52I was in a fight the argument guy pulled
- 34:55a gun out on me and I grabbed it and
- 34:57went off and shot him. And I told her,
- 35:00"I got to leave.
- 35:03There's a lot of witnesses."
- 35:07She said, "Well,
- 35:09you nobody saw you."
- 35:12And I said, "No,
- 35:16I'm not coming there."
- 35:20I said, "But I did it and I'm going to
- 35:23deal with the consequences cuz I'll be
- 35:25convicted wherever I go. or I won't be
- 35:27able to live with myself. I know I know
- 35:30how the Holy I know how the spirit deals
- 35:33with me.
- 35:34And um
- 35:39and so I I was coming back home and I
- 35:43stopped by the woods and I got out and I
- 35:45threw the gun
- 35:48in those woods.
- 35:50>> Did you throw it in the woods or in the
- 35:52stream or
- 35:52>> I don't even know, man. It was dark. I
- 35:54just threw it.
- 35:56>> I don't know where it landed. It was
- 35:58pitch black outside.
- 36:00>> So, I'm just I'm just going to draw.
- 36:02>> So, I'm quite sure you'll find it. There
- 36:05ain't nobody going out there.
- 36:11>> So, this is the road to your
- 36:12development, right?
- 36:14>> So, if you come out of your development,
- 36:16make a right.
- 36:17>> You make a right. And then we'll just
- 36:19say
- 36:20>> do it on this side cuz I was coming back
- 36:22this way.
- 36:23>> And I pull it over
- 36:24>> on this side.
- 36:25>> Yeah.
- 36:25>> Now, were you on the bridge or at the
- 36:28bridge?
- 36:29>> At the bridge. I wasn't on it.
- 36:30>> Okay. Were you on this side of the
- 36:33bridge or
- 36:33>> Yes, on that side of the bridge.
- 36:35>> On this side of the bridge.
- 36:36>> Yeah.
- 36:37>> And you threw it on that side
- 36:39>> in the in the woods, you think?
- 36:42>> Yes.
- 36:43>> How far did you think you threw it?
- 36:45>> Not far. You just kind of toss it or did
- 36:47you I give it a real good
- 36:48>> No, I didn't give it a real good
- 36:49nothing. I was
- 36:52>> I was just totally discombobulated, man.
- 36:54I like
- 36:58I just I just had to tell the truth. I
- 37:01can't live with that lie. My damn wife.
- 37:03Yeah. Can you tell me is she all right?
- 37:06>> No, sir. She's died.
- 37:08>> Oh, come on, man.
- 37:10No, man. Come on with that [ __ ]
- 37:13man.
- 37:16The [ __ ] you talking about? She died,
- 37:18man. God,
- 37:23don't tell me that [ __ ] babe.
- 37:27How the [ __ ] did she die?
- 37:31She She died. What? She She was dead in
- 37:33there.
- 37:34>> Yes.
- 37:37>> Oh, [ __ ] man.
- 37:43You wanted to die, man.
- 37:48You wanted to die, man. I wanted to die.
- 37:51Lord, please forgive me.
- 37:57Jesus. Lord. Jesus.
- 38:01Man,
- 38:03can't believe she died, man.
- 38:07We had arguments, but
- 38:13>> I know you said that you guys had some
- 38:16issues in the past and she would hit you
- 38:18and stuff.
- 38:19>> Oh, she was she been a fighter all her
- 38:21life, man.
- 38:22>> Was the police ever called your house
- 38:24for anything? Any kind of domestic
- 38:26issues or
- 38:29>> I haven't looked yet, so I just fig
- 38:31>> I don't know.
- 38:33I think me and her was having an
- 38:35argument one time and her daughter
- 38:37called the police and her daughter
- 38:39wasn't even there. She just heard us
- 38:41arguing over the phone
- 38:43and uh I was in the bed.
- 38:46>> How long ago was that?
- 38:47>> And that was that's probably about 20
- 38:49years ago.
- 38:53>> Have you always lived there on
- 38:56>> 2001?
- 38:58>> Okay.
- 39:00[ __ ] You going to sit up here and tell
- 39:01me she died, man?
- 39:06[ __ ] man. I'm not going to lie to you,
- 39:08sir.
- 39:13>> You said you were going to be a man and
- 39:14tell me the truth.
- 39:15>> I had to, man. I had to. I can't live
- 39:18with that.
- 39:19>> I'm not going to sit here and tell you
- 39:20she she's okay when she's not.
- 39:28Jesus.
- 39:31>> Can I ask you a question?
- 39:34>> Why didn't you call 911?
- 39:36>> I did call 911.
- 39:37>> I mean I mean when it happened,
- 39:41I panicked.
- 39:43I just panicked. I seen all that blood
- 39:47was splattered on the wall.
- 39:51And uh I actually I thought she was
- 39:53going to get up and call the police.
- 39:56And then when I came back and she was
- 39:58still there,
- 40:01I mean, I called 911.
- 40:05>> So you said after after you had that
- 40:08tussle with the gun and it went off. It
- 40:10was about 10 minutes until you left the
- 40:12house.
- 40:15>> I don't know how long. No, I think I
- 40:18left before 10 minutes. Okay.
- 40:20>> I tried to wake up, tried to get up off
- 40:22the floor.
- 40:25So when you left the house until you
- 40:27came back, how long do you think that
- 40:29was?
- 40:29>> I was going 30 minutes, maybe 28. I
- 40:33wasn't going that long.
- 40:35>> Okay.
- 40:36>> I went to I went to I went to
- 40:41to get on the highway and then I got on
- 40:4495 and then I took exit 74 and came back
- 40:48home.
- 40:51I guess it about 10 minutes, 15 minutes.
- 40:59This is This is not right.
- 41:09>> Um,
- 41:11what what pajamas were you wearing when
- 41:14this happened?
- 41:16>> Um,
- 41:17my the black and white ones. They should
- 41:21be in the in the um
- 41:24right there in the in my vehicle with
- 41:27the um
- 41:28>> Is it
- 41:29>> with the white shirt?
- 41:31>> So, black and white bottoms, pants.
- 41:34>> Mhm.
- 41:34>> And a white shirt.
- 41:36>> Black and gray pants.
- 41:38>> Black and gray pants and a white shirt.
- 41:40>> Yeah.
- 41:41>> T-shirt or
- 41:42>> It's a long shirt. It's got
- 41:45Chinese I mean spaghetti sauce on it or
- 41:48something. I spilled on when I was
- 41:49eating dirty.
- 41:50>> Is that on your that on your bed or on
- 41:52the floor or?
- 41:53>> No, that's on my shirt.
- 41:54>> No, I mean your clothes.
- 41:56>> Oh, it's probably I don't know where I
- 42:00put it. Probably on the bed on
- 42:02right there. Just easily see it. See the
- 42:06bed on the chair or it's in there.
- 42:16Is there anything else, sir, that you
- 42:19think we need to know right now?
- 42:27>> I can't believe this.
- 42:31>> Well, we're going to step out of the
- 42:32room for a little bit.
- 42:33>> Can I use that bathroom?
- 42:34>> Yeah, we'll we'll get you to the
- 42:35bathroom.
- 42:37>> Yeah.
- 42:38>> You need something to eat or
- 42:40>> No, I ain't took no medicine.
- 42:42tonight. But I ain't ate a whole lot. I
- 42:45only ate four peanut butter and jelly
- 42:46sandwich.
- 42:48>> That's a lot of sugar.
- 42:50>> What?
- 42:51>> Peanut butter and the jelly.
- 42:52>> Well, the jelly I just put a thin layer
- 42:55of jelly on. But uh
- 42:57>> Oh, I can't eat just a little bit of
- 42:58jelly. Peanut butter.
- 42:59>> I do. I I do because this
- 43:09>> Oh, this is good.
- 43:10>> We'll get you. We'll get you to the
- 43:12bathroom and we're going to bring you
- 43:13back in. Um then we got to chitchat for
- 43:15a little bit
- 43:16>> and we'll let you know where we're going
- 43:18from here. Okay.
- 43:19>> All right. All right.
- 43:21>> We'll get you to the to the
- 43:24>> You can leave your water here because
- 43:26back in
- 43:44Following the interrogation, David
- 43:45Williams remained charged in the death
- 43:47of his wife, Lillian Williams. The case
- 43:50moved forward in the circuit court for
- 43:51Harford County. Prosecutors said Lillian
- 43:54was shot and killed upstairs inside the
- 43:56couple's Abington home on June 30th,
- 43:582025.
- 44:00At trial, the state presented evidence
- 44:02that Williams was the only other person
- 44:04inside the residence at the time of the
- 44:05shooting. Prosecutors also said that
- 44:08after the shooting, Williams left the
- 44:10home, discarded the gun in a wooded
- 44:12area, returned about an hour later, and
- 44:14then called 911. Williams went to trial
- 44:17in April of 2026.
- 44:20On April 17th, 2026, after a 5-day jury
- 44:24trial before Judge Alex Almond, he was
- 44:26found guilty of first-degree murder, use
- 44:28of a firearm in a felony or crime of
- 44:30violence, possession of a regulated
- 44:32firearm by a prohibited person,
- 44:34possession of ammunition by a prohibited
- 44:36person, and impairing the availability
- 44:38of physical evidence. After the verdict,
- 44:41Williams remained in custody at the
- 44:43Harford County Detention Center. As of
- 44:45the state's attorney's April 17th, 2026
- 44:48release, a sentencing date had not yet
- 44:51been listed. The court was expected to
- 44:53schedule that hearing after the
- 44:55completion of a pre-sentence
- 44:56investigation.
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