The 'Buy Now Pay Later' Trap, Explained — Transcript
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- 0:00Why is paying for so addictive? I
- 0:03literally once financed a bottle of body
- 0:05wash.
- 0:08You know what? I'm going to afterpay
- 0:09this. It's going to make me feel less
- 0:10guilty to pay it in four installments of
- 0:14$81 or whatever. That's like having a
- 0:15black American Express to me. I can use
- 0:17it anywhere, anytime I get ready. I'm
- 0:20using CLA to pay for these Chris Brown
- 0:22tickets. Look at this chart right here.
- 0:24This shows the total non-housing
- 0:26consumer debt in America over the last
- 0:2810 years. And in 2024, Americans
- 0:30collectively owe more than $5 trillion,
- 0:33which is enough to pay for every NFL,
- 0:36NBA, and MLB team 10 times over. And to
- 0:39make matters worse, we are constantly
- 0:41surrounded by psychological tricks and
- 0:43hidden fees to drive us further and
- 0:45further into debt. The worst of these
- 0:47tricks, the buy now pay later programs
- 0:49that have been designed to take
- 0:51advantage of young adults. So, when you
- 0:53buy a $100 pair of shoes and you only
- 0:55have to pay $25 that day and then the
- 0:58pair of shoes show up at my apartment 3
- 0:59days later, the shoes are $25. Why do I
- 1:03care if in 2 months I have to pay
- 1:04another $25? I don't know me 2 months
- 1:07from now. She can deal with that. I now
- 1:08pay later is a short-term financing
- 1:10option that is offered by companies like
- 1:12Affirm, CLA, or Afterpay. You'll
- 1:15typically see these options pop up on
- 1:16e-commerce stores, offering you the
- 1:18ability to buy what you want today while
- 1:20deferring your payment over a certain
- 1:22number of installments. So, if you're
- 1:23looking to buy a new suitcase for a trip
- 1:25you have coming up, and it's going to
- 1:26cost you $300, instead of paying that
- 1:28all today, you could buy the suitcase
- 1:30today and then split the $300 across
- 1:32four equal interest free payments. And
- 1:35you might think, great, interest free. I
- 1:37can just sign up for these payments and
- 1:38then worry about paying it sometime
- 1:39later down the road. But it's not quite
- 1:41that simple. These buy now pay later
- 1:43programs aren't necessarily
- 1:45groundbreaking financial technology. In
- 1:47fact, buy now pay later programs are
- 1:49kind of a newer modernized version of
- 1:51the old school layaway programs that you
- 1:53would see at stores like Kmart and
- 1:55Sears. These layaway programs allowed
- 1:56you to place a deposit on an item like a
- 1:58dishwasher, for example. And then the
- 2:00store would reserve that dishwasher for
- 2:02you to collect once you had paid off the
- 2:04dishwasher through their installment
- 2:05plan. But these layaway programs kind of
- 2:07fell off throughout much of the midentth
- 2:09century, mainly due to the introduction
- 2:11of credit cards and revolving lines of
- 2:13credit. Instead of using a layaway
- 2:14program and waiting to collect their
- 2:16item, people could just swipe a credit
- 2:17card, get their item today, and then
- 2:19worry about paying off that over the
- 2:21next couple months or years. The only
- 2:23problem is is that a credit card will
- 2:24incur interest. People realized that if
- 2:26they didn't pay their credit card down
- 2:28on time, they would end up owing more
- 2:29than they initially spent on the item.
- 2:31So along came the modern marvel that is
- 2:34buy now pay later which gave you the
- 2:36best of both worlds. Get your product
- 2:38today, pay it off over a longer period
- 2:40of time, all while doing it interest
- 2:42free. And that idea began hooking people
- 2:44in because buy now pay later has seen
- 2:46some explosive growth over the last 5
- 2:48years going from $2 billion in
- 2:50transaction volume in 2019 to $24.2
- 2:53billion in 2021. And it's projected to
- 2:55reach as high as $122 billion in 2025.
- 2:59But this explosion wasn't just happening
- 3:00in a vacuum. It's actually part of three
- 3:02major cultural shifts that we've been
- 3:04seeing. First is the financialization of
- 3:07everything, meaning we've moved from a
- 3:09completely cashbased society to a
- 3:11society in which we look at even a $5
- 3:13coffee as an opportunity to finance the
- 3:15transaction. Second, we have the rise of
- 3:17social mediadriven consumption. As
- 3:19influencers showcase luxury lifestyle
- 3:21and products, buy now pay later allows
- 3:23the average consumer the ability to
- 3:25experience those same things without
- 3:27actually incurring the cost today. And
- 3:29third, we have the post-pandemic
- 3:31spending boom, which has consumers using
- 3:33buy now pay later as a form of revenge
- 3:35spending or buying things they feel like
- 3:36they missed out on during the pandemic.
- 3:38Combine all of that with a declining
- 3:40financial literacy among most young
- 3:42adults, and you have the perfect storm
- 3:44to make buy now pay later explode as a
- 3:46new mentality. But why is this even a
- 3:48problem? If they're not charging
- 3:50interest, how can they actually be
- 3:51taking advantage of me as a consumer? To
- 3:54answer that question, we first need to
- 3:55look at the differences between buy now
- 3:57pay later programs and traditional
- 3:58credit cards. Because on the outside,
- 4:00they're basically the same thing. Both
- 4:01financial devices allow you to buy
- 4:02something today that you might not
- 4:04necessarily be able to afford or be
- 4:06willing to put cash down today for. But
- 4:08a credit card usually involves some sort
- 4:10of approval process, application,
- 4:13review, and a credit report hit.
- 4:15Meanwhile, buy now pay later programs
- 4:17offer an almost instantaneous approval
- 4:19for your purchase in the moment.
- 4:20Additionally, as we discussed, credit
- 4:22cards can acrue interest if not paid off
- 4:24by the end of the month. And that rate
- 4:25can be at crazy high rates, usually
- 4:27around 19 to 23%. On top of that, if
- 4:30you're late with your payment or you
- 4:32miss a payment, credit card companies
- 4:33can also add on late payment fees that
- 4:35just end up waterfalling you into insane
- 4:38amounts of credit card debt off of
- 4:39fairly simple purchases to begin with.
- 4:41And on the other hand, buy now pay later
- 4:43offers 0% interest, which sounds great,
- 4:45but that all depends on if you actually
- 4:47pay your payments on time. If you don't,
- 4:49you'll be subject to late payment fees
- 4:51that can range anywhere from $2 to $15
- 4:53per payment and going all the way up to
- 4:5525% of the total value of the purchase
- 4:58you made initially. And with all that
- 5:00said, buy now pay later still might
- 5:01sound like a perfectly good alternative
- 5:03to credit cards, which is exactly what
- 5:05they want you to think because buy now
- 5:06pay later programs weren't necessarily
- 5:08designed to help the consumer like you
- 5:10or me. They were designed for stores and
- 5:12brands that want to sell more through
- 5:13their website or in their stores. After
- 5:15all, that's why brands are willing to
- 5:16pay 2 to 3% more for their transaction
- 5:19fees to use a buy now pay later program
- 5:21versus a traditional credit card
- 5:22processor. To give you an example, let's
- 5:24look at a $100 purchase. If you bought a
- 5:26$100 item using a normal credit card on
- 5:28their site, the brand was typically
- 5:29going to incur about a $2.50 charge to
- 5:32process that payment. And on the other
- 5:34hand, if you were to use a buy now pay
- 5:36later program, that transaction fee that
- 5:38the brand has to pay goes from $2.50 to
- 5:40about $5. But the merchant fees are just
- 5:43the beginning when it comes to buy now
- 5:44pay later. So let's look at how these
- 5:46companies actually make money beyond
- 5:47just charging the brand that hosts them
- 5:49on their website. First, like we just
- 5:51discussed, they're going to collect that
- 5:52merchant fee, which is anywhere from 4
- 5:53to 6% of the transaction price. Second,
- 5:56they profit from late fees like we
- 5:58talked about earlier, which has turned
- 5:59out to be a pretty substantial revenue
- 6:01source for companies like Affirm and CLA
- 6:03because one in every three users of
- 6:05these buy now pay later programs
- 6:06actually ends up missing a payment at
- 6:08least once. And third, every purchase
- 6:10that is made reveals something about you
- 6:12or your shopping habits. And these
- 6:14companies have realized that that is
- 6:15very valuable information for other
- 6:16brands. So they actually harvest a lot
- 6:18of the data from your checkout pages and
- 6:20then sell it to other brands that can
- 6:21then use it in their marketing or in
- 6:23their ad target. And finally, they
- 6:24benefit from the sheer volume of loans
- 6:27being opened up. By packaging yours and
- 6:29everybody else's debt together and
- 6:30selling it to larger financial
- 6:32institutions, they can make money even
- 6:34when you pay on time. In other words,
- 6:35they've created a system where they win
- 6:37no matter what happens to you
- 6:39financially. So, now let's look at
- 6:40buying an iPhone for $1,000. When you
- 6:43reach the checkout page, you have three
- 6:44options. Number one, pay the full $1,000
- 6:47upfront. This is the simplest, cleanest,
- 6:49and easiest way to get out of the
- 6:51checkout scotch-free. Option two, you
- 6:52could use a credit card with the typical
- 6:5422% APR to purchase the phone. And if
- 6:57you only made the minimum payments, you
- 6:58would end up paying about
- 7:00$1,480 over the course of 5 years with
- 7:03$480 of that being the interest alone.
- 7:05And option number three is you could use
- 7:07Afterpay's for payment installment plan
- 7:09where you pay $250 today and then $250
- 7:12every 2 weeks until the plan is paid
- 7:14off. Which sounds like the best deal to
- 7:16you? You see, brands have mastered
- 7:17psychological manipulation throughout
- 7:19their website, but specifically on the
- 7:22last hurdle, which is the checkout page.
- 7:24And they do this through four key
- 7:26tricks. First, they exploit what
- 7:27psychologists call the pain of paying.
- 7:30By splitting the cost over a longer
- 7:31period of time, your brain actually
- 7:33registers less financial pain than
- 7:35paying the full amount up front. Second,
- 7:37they trigger what is called the temporal
- 7:39discounting, which is our tendency to
- 7:41value immediate rewards more than future
- 7:44benefits or otherwise known as instant
- 7:46gratification. Pay just $25 today and
- 7:48it's yours sounds a lot better than
- 7:49waiting and saving up for it. Third,
- 7:51they will create artificial urgency by
- 7:53simulating limited time offers in the
- 7:55checkout page. And finally, they use
- 7:57colors and shapes to direct your eye
- 7:59exactly where they want you to be
- 8:01looking. Have you ever noticed that the
- 8:02buy now pay later button is often
- 8:04highlighted in a brighter color? And
- 8:05it's sometimes even pre-selected when
- 8:07you reach the checkout page. These
- 8:08aren't accidents. These are specific
- 8:10design decisions to shortcircuit your
- 8:12brain to making a financial decision
- 8:14more on an impulse than with rational
- 8:16thinking. Instead of thinking about a
- 8:17$100 purchase rationally and over a
- 8:19longer period of time, they'd rather
- 8:21have you just click the pay $25 now and
- 8:23worry about it later on. And again, this
- 8:25isn't necessarily a bad deal because
- 8:28people are always looking for interestf
- 8:30free ways of purchasing things so that
- 8:32their money can go and earn them more
- 8:33money while they're paying off the other
- 8:35thing that they purchased. But to do so
- 8:37requires some financial education or
- 8:39experience. And sadly, most Americans
- 8:41are completely undereducated when it
- 8:43comes to financial literacy. So the
- 8:45instant gratification syndrome kicks in
- 8:47and they buy practically everything with
- 8:49buy now pay later with no real concern
- 8:51that they will in fact have to pay that
- 8:54off at some point. All they're worried
- 8:55about is the price that they will pay
- 8:56today which is exactly how you end up
- 8:58with this. I've done groceries. I've
- 9:00done all kinds of crap on a firm and
- 9:02cla but it adds up and then you are in a
- 9:06chokeold and in some ways it is worse
- 9:09than having credit card payments. It's
- 9:12crazy because buy now pay later is so
- 9:14easy to do. People are starting to use
- 9:16it on more and more occasions where it's
- 9:18really not meant to be used. Instead of
- 9:20just using it on a big purchase like a
- 9:22new fridge or a TV, they're starting to
- 9:24use it on smaller things and truly
- 9:26financing items that have no business
- 9:29being financed. A crazy story that we
- 9:31recently saw is that CLA is now on Door
- 9:33Dash, which allows you to finance your
- 9:35$15 burrito over four payments of $375
- 9:38instead of paying the full $15 upfront.
- 9:41Again, not a necessarily terrible thing
- 9:43when looked at in a vacuum. But when you
- 9:45expand this to consider that someone
- 9:47who's financing a burrito is also
- 9:49probably financing a lot of other
- 9:50things, that's when the real problem
- 9:52starts to arise. Bad spending habits
- 9:54like this lead to what we call loan
- 9:56stacking. Pretty much what it sounds
- 9:57like. Taking out loan after loan after
- 9:59loan and stacking them on top of each
- 10:01other. And because buy now pay later
- 10:02programs make it so easy to do so, most
- 10:05consumers don't even realize how much
- 10:07debt they're actually acrewing. In fact,
- 10:08in 2022, 63% of buy now pay later
- 10:12borrowers had more than one loan going
- 10:14at one time. And this is where it gets
- 10:16really scary because these programs are
- 10:17designed to offer credit with little to
- 10:19no approval process. It's almost like
- 10:21they're targeting people that don't know
- 10:22how to manage their money. All they see
- 10:24is, "Oh, I can buy this $1,000 thing for
- 10:26$250 today." And they just click buy.
- 10:28When in reality, over 69% of buy now pay
- 10:32later users are already in debt on
- 10:34another credit card. And 28% of buy now
- 10:36pay later borrowers are between the ages
- 10:38of 18 and 24 years old. Most of these
- 10:41people don't even understand the concept
- 10:42of how a credit card works. And by
- 10:44giving them this buy now pay later
- 10:45option, it's almost like they have this
- 10:47unlimited stream of money that never
- 10:49needs to actually be paid off. Again,
- 10:50don't get me wrong, there are definitely
- 10:52some advantages to the system if you
- 10:54know how to play it. But the vast
- 10:55majority of people using the system are
- 10:57not taking advantage of it. They are
- 10:58just getting taken advantage of. So what
- 11:00do you do as a consumer? Should I
- 11:02completely stay away from buy now pay
- 11:04later or are there some circumstances
- 11:05where it makes sense? And to answer that
- 11:07question, the most important piece of
- 11:08advice I can give you is to never spend
- 11:11more than you currently have. Whether
- 11:13that be through a credit card or a buy
- 11:14now pay later option. If you don't have
- 11:16the cash in your bank, don't spend it.
- 11:18And that is by far the easiest way that
- 11:20you can keep yourself out of credit card
- 11:21debt. And if you feel confident in your
- 11:22financial abilities, feel free to use a
- 11:24credit card or a buy now pay later
- 11:25option to earn more interest on your
- 11:27cash while it's sitting in your account
- 11:28versus just spending it immediately. But
- 11:30if you don't feel confident about this,
- 11:32treat your credit cards in a buy now pay
- 11:33later program as if it's hooked directly
- 11:35up to your checking account. If you
- 11:36spend $100, that's $100 coming directly
- 11:39out of your account. Another tip I have
- 11:40is to avoid stacking these loans because
- 11:43that is where things can get very messy
- 11:45very quickly. If you start financing
- 11:46weekly expenses like gas, groceries, or
- 11:49that Friday night Chipotle bowl, it
- 11:51becomes a slippery slope because it is
- 11:52100 times easier to get into debt than
- 11:55it is to get out of debt. But there you
- 11:56have it, the truth about buy now pay
- 11:58later. These companies spend millions of
- 12:00dollars on psychological research to get
- 12:02you to spend more than you can actually
- 12:03afford. But now you know a little bit
- 12:05more about how to protect yourself. And
- 12:06if you like this video, make sure to
- 12:08check out this video that covers the
- 12:09business of Formula 1 and how
- 12:11billionaires use debt to fund their
- 12:13crazy hobby of racing.
- 12:16[Music]
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