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  1. 0:00I've traveled to El Salvador six times in the
  2. 0:02past four years, and I've uncovered a deeply
  3. 0:05uncomfortable truth I have to share with you.
  4. 0:07And it raises two uneasy questions we've all
  5. 0:10been avoiding. Is El Salvador's president,
  6. 0:12Nayib Bukele, a Bitcoin dictator?
  7. 0:15And if he is, is that really such a bad
  8. 0:18thing? But first, an uncomfortable truth.
  9. 0:21One the global Bitcoin movement has decided
  10. 0:24to look the other way on.
  11. 0:26Under the state of exception,
  12. 0:27the government suspended article 24 of the
  13. 0:30Constitution that hand security forces the
  14. 0:32legal power to tap your phone,
  15. 0:34read your private chats,
  16. 0:35and monitor your entire digital footprint.
  17. 0:38No warrant. No judge.
  18. 0:40And yes, that includes you,
  19. 0:42the Bitcoin influencers,
  20. 0:43the tourists, and the holidaymakers.
  21. 0:45Nobody has the right to privacy.
  22. 0:47This is hard for me to share as I've covered
  23. 0:49Bitcoin country for about five years.
  24. 0:51I've documented how Bitcoin bank,
  25. 0:53the unbanked and I may even sold some of you
  26. 0:56on visiting Bitcoin country or maybe even
  27. 0:58moving there. But there is a grim truth
  28. 1:01hiding behind the headlines,
  29. 1:02one that few journalists and fewer
  30. 1:04Bitcoiners, I would say,
  31. 1:06are willing to say out loud.
  32. 1:08Is Bukele a Bitcoin dictator?
  33. 1:10And if so, so what?
  34. 1:12Behind me is the Oslo Freedom Forum.
  35. 1:15It's where the people who've actually
  36. 1:16survived dictatorships come to fight back on
  37. 1:19this stage at the Oslo Freedom Forum.
  38. 1:22Activists, journalists,
  39. 1:23human rights defenders they all advocated for
  40. 1:26one thing dismantling dictatorship.
  41. 1:30Now, from this free press vantage point,
  42. 1:32I feel compelled to ask six questions about
  43. 1:34El Salvador, six questions that I really hope
  44. 1:37you'll sit on and think about before you hit
  45. 1:39the comments with, fuck you,
  46. 1:41Joe. You're just a European hater.
  47. 1:43You're hating on Bitcoin country.
  48. 1:44Well, I hope question five goes some way
  49. 1:47towards exonerating me,
  50. 1:48and I hope question six really wakes you up.
  51. 1:51At the very least, I hope this sparks some
  52. 1:53honest debate about the state of Bitcoin
  53. 1:55country. Just quickly.
  54. 1:56About 80% of you watching this are not
  55. 1:58subscribed to my content. If you get
  56. 1:59something out of my on the ground reporting,
  57. 2:01please hit subscribe as it genuinely helps me
  58. 2:03keep doing it. On with the video.
  59. 2:08As Satoshi Nakamoto's white paper goes,
  60. 2:10Bitcoin is a peer to peer cash system.
  61. 2:13No middleman. Bitcoin exists to take away
  62. 2:15power from the center and to hand it back to
  63. 2:18the individual. So why would a so-called
  64. 2:21Bitcoin country hand its president the power
  65. 2:24to read everyone's messages,
  66. 2:25with no warrant and no recourse?
  67. 2:28Since March 2022, this country has lived
  68. 2:31under what's called the state of exception.
  69. 2:33Think of this like emergency powers,
  70. 2:36it suspends article 24 of the Constitution,
  71. 2:39which means that the state can tap your phone
  72. 2:41and read your messages without asking a court
  73. 2:44for anything.
  74. 2:45It's not very Bitcoin, is it?
  75. 2:46The human rights monitors confirm this
  76. 2:48directly. This emergency is supposed to be
  77. 2:50temporary, but by law,
  78. 2:51Parliament has to vote to renew this every
  79. 2:53single month, and they have almost 50 times
  80. 2:56in a row. Nearly 50 months of emergency.
  81. 3:01And there's no real way to argue this or
  82. 3:02debate this inside the country.
  83. 3:05Salvadorans that would like to speak out,
  84. 3:07they can't. And that's not some wild guess.
  85. 3:09Here at the Oslo Freedom Forum,
  86. 3:11I quietly spoke to several Salvadorans about
  87. 3:13this. They explained that it's now completely
  88. 3:15normal to self-censor,
  89. 3:17and that people think twice before saying
  90. 3:19anything in public about the direction the
  91. 3:22country is going in.
  92. 3:23One of only three opposition legislators left
  93. 3:25in El Salvador's 60 seat parliament,
  94. 3:29Claudia Ortiz, stood on this very stage and
  95. 3:32she said it out loud.
  96. 3:34The message to every Salvadoran is simple
  97. 3:38stay quiet or you are the next.
  98. 3:42She's saying in public what most Salvadorans
  99. 3:44are only whispering in private.
  100. 3:47What does that tell you?
  101. 3:48The country's very own Human rights
  102. 3:49commission has now said that the violence
  103. 3:51that justified all of these temporary powers
  104. 3:54has already passed.
  105. 3:55So the threat is gone,
  106. 3:56but the emergency powers are not.
  107. 3:59Why? El Salvador's sweeping new data law
  108. 4:01exempts the state from anything touching
  109. 4:04national security.
  110. 4:06Then it hands officials a right to be
  111. 4:08forgotten. The Human Rights Watch reported,
  112. 4:10could force outlets to delete reporting.
  113. 4:13The rules don't bind the state,
  114. 4:15but they can erase the press.
  115. 4:17It's a censorship law with a privacy label.
  116. 4:20Do you understand now why I'm filming this in
  117. 4:22Oslo and not in El Salvador?
  118. 4:24The citizens privacy against the state is
  119. 4:26gone. The state's privacy against the
  120. 4:28journalist is now protected by law.
  121. 4:30So ask yourself, which way round should that
  122. 4:33be in a free country?
  123. 4:35And here's the question that nobody in that
  124. 4:37gorgeous tropical country is allowed to ask
  125. 4:40out loud. Why is the special law still here
  126. 4:43at all? Because if it's so safe now and
  127. 4:46buccal, he keeps telling us how damn safe it
  128. 4:48is, then why does the leader still need to
  129. 4:51listen in to our phone calls?
  130. 4:58Now, you're probably familiar with the Chivo
  131. 5:00story. When the Bitcoin law came into effect,
  132. 5:02Salvadorans could gain $30 of free Bitcoin
  133. 5:05into their brand new Chivo wallet app,
  134. 5:08provided that they scan their face and the
  135. 5:11give away their ID details.
  136. 5:13This is not exactly in line with the Bitcoin
  137. 5:15ethos, and of course, it creates a giant
  138. 5:17honeypot of biometric data.
  139. 5:19But equally, it's not a smoking gun.
  140. 5:21Lots of financial apps do this nowadays,
  141. 5:23and KYC requirements are getting stricter and
  142. 5:25stricter all over the world.
  143. 5:27The real scoop is that Chivo didn't just
  144. 5:29collect your data, it reportedly censored
  145. 5:33your money. Now, back in 2023,
  146. 5:35Mike Peterson, who is the founder of Bitcoin
  147. 5:37Beach and someone I really look up to in the
  148. 5:39Bitcoin space, he went on the record to say
  149. 5:42that Chivo was censoring transactions that
  150. 5:44came from wasabi, a lady that works with us.
  151. 5:47She had her wallet basically frozen,
  152. 5:49shut down. They were concerned about
  153. 5:52transactions that I had sent her from wasabi
  154. 5:55wallet. The reported reason for this shutdown
  155. 5:57of those private transactions was pressure
  156. 6:00from regulators in the US.
  157. 6:01Privacy is a right.
  158. 6:03It's important for Bitcoiners.
  159. 6:04If you're going to flag transactions,
  160. 6:07then you're going to defeat what's trying to
  161. 6:09be accomplished here.
  162. 6:10So you can't use private Bitcoin in the state
  163. 6:13friendly wallet. And then who could have seen
  164. 6:16this coming? That giant biometric honeypot of
  165. 6:19data. It was leaked on the dark web,
  166. 6:21more than 100GB, and more than 80% of the
  167. 6:24population's private information was leaked,
  168. 6:26including those facial recognition photos,
  169. 6:29dates of birth addresses,
  170. 6:31etc.. Researchers called it one of the first
  171. 6:33times in history that an entire populations
  172. 6:36biometric data was dumped onto the internet
  173. 6:39in one go. One important caveat here,
  174. 6:41because I want to maintain some sort of
  175. 6:42neutrality. Chivo wallet denies that this
  176. 6:46data leak came from them.
  177. 6:47But let's just join the dots for a moment
  178. 6:49here. The state built the wallet.
  179. 6:51Then it effectively data mined as much of the
  180. 6:54population as possible.
  181. 6:55And two years later, all of that data ends up
  182. 6:58on the dark web. This is the cost of doing
  183. 7:00Bitcoin from the top down.
  184. 7:02Everything that Bitcoin was built to avoid.
  185. 7:04It's much better when it's done from the
  186. 7:06bottom up. Amigos de la zona de derechos
  187. 7:15humanos y lo digo también entre Los
  188. 7:18criminales. Pero si no lo hacemos ahora
  189. 7:20cuando. Now think about where you actually
  190. 7:23see the Bitcoin branding in El Salvador.
  191. 7:25That big flashy Bitcoin country display that
  192. 7:28you see when you land in San Salvador.
  193. 7:30Guess where it is. It's in international
  194. 7:33arrivals. You fly domestically.
  195. 7:34You don't see it. Then the Bitcoin office
  196. 7:36tweets almost exclusively in English.
  197. 7:39And then Nayib Bukele himself.
  198. 7:41He announced the entire Bitcoin campaign on
  199. 7:43stage in Miami in English to a mostly
  200. 7:46American crowd. That is why next week I will
  201. 7:49send to Congress a bill that will make
  202. 7:51Bitcoin a legal tender in El Salvador.
  203. 7:53The conferences, the content,
  204. 7:54the energy. It's aimed at me.
  205. 7:56It's aimed at you watching at home.
  206. 7:58So I went looking for the other side of it,
  207. 7:59the Spanish language Bitcoin education from
  208. 8:01the states, the campaigns aimed at actual
  209. 8:03Salvadorans in their own language and
  210. 8:05actually really struggled to find it.
  211. 8:07Mi primer Bitcoin or my first Bitcoin,
  212. 8:09the NGO which used to be headquartered in El
  213. 8:11Salvador. It's since moved out of the
  214. 8:13country. Now, when I looked at how the
  215. 8:15government talks about Bitcoin,
  216. 8:16the loudest, most polished material,
  217. 8:18it faces outward in English to us,
  218. 8:21not inward in Spanish to the Salvadorans of
  219. 8:24Bitcoin country persona.
  220. 8:31Extranjero nunca antes de hoy.
  221. 8:34Wow. If you ask a regular Salvadoran outside
  222. 8:37the bubble, for example,
  223. 8:38the taxi driver who lives away from the
  224. 8:40tourist zone, or the woman who runs a shop
  225. 8:42just a mile up the hill away from El Zonte.
  226. 8:45A lot of them don't know what Bitcoin Beach
  227. 8:47is. For us, it's an international story,
  228. 8:50but for them it's just a rumor.
  229. 8:52If you genuinely wanted people to adopt the
  230. 8:54hardest money known to mankind,
  231. 8:56then you teach them in their own language.
  232. 8:58At scale, it looks more like a marketing
  233. 9:01campaign for foreigners than a genuine
  234. 9:03economic strategy for Salvadorans.
  235. 9:05It's beautiful branding pointed at people
  236. 9:07with the passports and the capital.
  237. 9:09And Bukele is a razor sharp operator.
  238. 9:12He knows exactly who's watching and who's
  239. 9:14clapping. The Bitcoin country strategy.
  240. 9:16It's not for them.
  241. 9:18It breaks my heart to say it, but it's for
  242. 9:20us. I mean, equally, let me be clear about
  243. 9:22who this video is aimed at.
  244. 9:24I'm not having a go at El Salvador or its
  245. 9:26people because for five years I've filmed
  246. 9:28extraordinary, hard working Salvadorans
  247. 9:30who've changed their lives with Bitcoin
  248. 9:32technology. They did it from the bottom up
  249. 9:34because they chose to.
  250. 9:35Mama Rosa, who saves in Bitcoin from her
  251. 9:37pupusa stand. Napo, who turned one taxi into
  252. 9:40a fleet of taxis with Bitcoin in mind.
  253. 9:43These are the real Bitcoin stories.
  254. 9:45The people of El Salvador have earned every
  255. 9:47bit of safety and hope that they fought for.
  256. 9:50None of my questions are aimed down at them.
  257. 9:52This is about punching up at the powerful,
  258. 9:55sophisticated government.
  259. 9:56Because when a state borrows the language of
  260. 9:58freedom, sovereignty, and decentralization to
  261. 10:01sell itself to the world,
  262. 10:02the people who actually believe in these
  263. 10:04words have a duty to hold it to them.
  264. 10:06That's what this video is.
  265. 10:12Question four now Bitcoin,
  266. 10:14it tends to attract skeptics,
  267. 10:15contrarians, and people who naturally
  268. 10:17question power.
  269. 10:18There's also a couple of like flat earthers
  270. 10:21and sun cream Nazis in there,
  271. 10:22but it's mostly contrarians and skeptics.
  272. 10:24But why are the two people guarding the
  273. 10:26official Bitcoin narrative so cozy with
  274. 10:29regimes that crush dissent?
  275. 10:31Max Keiser and Stacy Herbert they advise the
  276. 10:34government on its official Bitcoin strategy.
  277. 10:36But for 13 years, right up until the day that
  278. 10:39Russia invaded Ukraine in February 2022,
  279. 10:41they hosted a show on RT,
  280. 10:43the Russia state propaganda channel,
  281. 10:45and they do not take kindly to journalists.
  282. 10:48They take even less kindly to Kindly anyone
  283. 10:50asking hard questions about Bitcoin in El
  284. 10:53Salvador. My name is Stacy Herbert,
  285. 10:55and I don't give a fuck what the media says.
  286. 10:57Fuck those guys, fuck the media and fuck
  287. 11:00Cointelegraph.
  288. 11:03Yeah. So that was me on a stage like this at
  289. 11:06a Bitcoin conference in 2023.
  290. 11:08Now Stacy says she doesn't care about the
  291. 11:10media, so she's not going to care what I say
  292. 11:12in this video. But this should show you how
  293. 11:14that project and that government deals with
  294. 11:16scrutiny going from Russia Today to the
  295. 11:20Bitcoin office.
  296. 11:22Oof! Credit where credit is due though.
  297. 11:24Max and Stacy have kept El Salvador Bitcoin
  298. 11:27only. They made sure the Bitcoiners,
  299. 11:29the grifters, the scammers,
  300. 11:30they kicked it out of El Salvador.
  301. 11:33But the deal for the influencers and the El
  302. 11:35Salvador Bitcoiners seems to be quite simple.
  303. 11:37Either you take the money you read from the
  304. 11:39damn script, or you get ostracized and
  305. 11:42sidelined, and it's bigger than Max and
  306. 11:45Stacy. Some of the loudest privacy voices in
  307. 11:47Bitcoin. People who will spend all day on
  308. 11:49Twitter calling Europe a dystopian state or
  309. 11:52the EU a surveillance state.
  310. 11:54They go completely silent on El Salvador,
  311. 11:56but it's the same surveillance,
  312. 11:58the same erosion of rights,
  313. 12:00just under a different flag.
  314. 12:02Now, I'm not going to read you out a list of
  315. 12:04names, but I'll just ask the question that
  316. 12:06they should be asking themselves.
  317. 12:08Is your defense of privacy a principle,
  318. 12:11or is it only for the countries you don't
  319. 12:14like, the ones that don't call themselves a
  320. 12:17Bitcoin country? And sure,
  321. 12:23right about now, someone's definitely typing
  322. 12:24in the comments. Well,
  323. 12:25it's easy for you to throw mud at El
  324. 12:27Salvador. You live in Europe.
  325. 12:29The UK jails people for tweeting.
  326. 12:31You know what? You are completely right.
  327. 12:33The war on encryption,
  328. 12:35chat control, digital ID creeping in CBDCs.
  329. 12:38The fourth turning is here and I don't like
  330. 12:40it. But I recently uncovered the corrupt
  331. 12:42officials and the KYC data leaks in France
  332. 12:45that led to French attacks on Bitcoiners
  333. 12:47there. The link is on screen right now if you
  334. 12:48want to check it out. The point is, though,
  335. 12:50that the West is getting more and more
  336. 12:51draconian and it worries me.
  337. 12:53But here's the difference. Europe never stood
  338. 12:55on a stage and told the world it was the home
  339. 12:58of freedom money. Brussels isn't selling
  340. 13:00itself to Bitcoiners as the great Cypherpunk
  341. 13:02experiment, but El Salvador.
  342. 13:04It did both.
  343. 13:05It built the surveillance,
  344. 13:07it wrapped it under the Bitcoin flag,
  345. 13:08and it sold us that same flag,
  346. 13:11a surveillance state that admits what it is,
  347. 13:13is at least being honest with you.
  348. 13:15But a surveillance state that markets itself
  349. 13:18as this Bitcoin freedom project,
  350. 13:20while it reads its own messages,
  351. 13:22is something far, far worse.
  352. 13:24By the way, if you want to defend your
  353. 13:26financial privacy, then a great way to do so
  354. 13:29is using Bitcoin.
  355. 13:30Bitcoin is a Bitcoin lightning self-custody
  356. 13:33wallet. Scan the QR code on screen to get
  357. 13:35free Bitcoin from biscuit.
  358. 13:37Cheers. Biscuit. Final question and thanks
  359. 13:43for sticking with me thus far because this
  360. 13:45one really panics me as a journalist.
  361. 13:47So if the state and the country is long safe,
  362. 13:50then why sustain those oppressive emergency
  363. 13:53powers? This isn't the privacy law.
  364. 13:55This is the state of emergency,
  365. 13:57effectively martial law.
  366. 13:59Let me explain. So the last time I was in San
  367. 14:01Salvador, I got a haircut and a pedicure.
  368. 14:04Journalism. Pro tip by the way,
  369. 14:06the local salon is a great place to spend a
  370. 14:09day and chat to. Locals.
  371. 14:10Get a sense of what's happening on the
  372. 14:12ground. But naturally,
  373. 14:13the ladies, the hairdressers,
  374. 14:15they were all in adoration of Buckley.
  375. 14:18This guy has like a 90% approval rating.
  376. 14:20He is incredibly popular because,
  377. 14:23you know, he saved the country from the
  378. 14:25gangs. Then I got talking to this local kid.
  379. 14:28He was 21 years old and covered in tattoos on
  380. 14:31his neck, on the side of his face,
  381. 14:33everywhere. But under the state of emergency,
  382. 14:35where the normal rules of arrest are
  383. 14:37suspended, a police officer saw him walking
  384. 14:39down the street one day.
  385. 14:40They saw his tattoos and they thought that
  386. 14:43was enough time to handcuff him and throw him
  387. 14:45into jail. He spent three months in prison
  388. 14:48with no lawyer, no trial and no phone call,
  389. 14:51and he only got out because one of his
  390. 14:52clients at the hair salon was a lawyer who
  391. 14:54fought so hard to get him freed.
  392. 14:58Criminals. Criminals sobre todo Los lideres
  393. 15:01enfrenta en la justicia.
  394. 15:02Pero Los innocentes Q ustedes llaman de
  395. 15:04manera mal intentional de margen de error
  396. 15:07libre en Los liberan.
  397. 15:10Los human rights groups have documented
  398. 15:12thousands of innocent people who were swept
  399. 15:14up in the same way.
  400. 15:15Police officers have described being handed
  401. 15:17arrest quotas.
  402. 15:18A number of bodies that they had to bring in
  403. 15:20each day. I asked him,
  404. 15:22after three months in a cell,
  405. 15:24thinking about nothing but presumably resent
  406. 15:26for the regime and El Salvador.
  407. 15:28Surely he resents Buckley.
  408. 15:30And he looked at me and he said, no,
  409. 15:32I'm fine when it comes to this regime.
  410. 15:34I'm neutral. That floored me.
  411. 15:35And that's the nuance that Bitcoin and crypto
  412. 15:38tourists like me, we almost always miss.
  413. 15:41Because before Buckley,
  414. 15:42ordinary Salvadorans lived in genuine terror.
  415. 15:45Gangs were taxing their shops,
  416. 15:47killing their kids, and booklet crushed those
  417. 15:50gangs. That part is real,
  418. 15:52and I don't think the Salvadorans will be
  419. 15:54quick to forget it.
  420. 15:55So the trade for the average person is
  421. 15:57brutally simple.
  422. 15:59You give up the abstract stuff like the
  423. 16:00privacy, like the due process or the free
  424. 16:03press, and in exchange,
  425. 16:05your child walks home alive.
  426. 16:07Put it this way.
  427. 16:08And of course, safety always wins.
  428. 16:11But this is precisely why Satoshi Nakamoto
  429. 16:14built Bitcoin. It was so you had the ability
  430. 16:16to opt out and to refuse to take part in this
  431. 16:19trade at all. The whole point was a shield
  432. 16:21that the state cannot take off you,
  433. 16:23even when the state is frightened,
  434. 16:24even when it has a genuinely good reason.
  435. 16:27With Bitcoin, you can opt out a government
  436. 16:30that asks you to hand over that shield has
  437. 16:32not understood Bitcoin.
  438. 16:34It's just trying to tap into one of the most
  439. 16:36powerful brands that this century has ever
  440. 16:38seen. So let me be honest about where I've
  441. 16:40landed, because at some point,
  442. 16:42a journalist has to stop asking questions and
  443. 16:44explain what they think.
  444. 16:45Now, I believe that Kelly is a dictator and
  445. 16:48it's not because of the Bitcoin stuff.
  446. 16:50That's just one small part of it.
  447. 16:52The suspended constitution eliminating
  448. 16:54presidential term limits,
  449. 16:56the permanent emergency.
  450. 16:57The tens of thousands who are jailed without
  451. 16:59trial, the spyware on journalists phones,
  452. 17:02criminalising independent journalism and
  453. 17:05establishing a de facto one party state.
  454. 17:08The list goes on and on.
  455. 17:10This is the dictator's playbook,
  456. 17:12and I know that for some of you,
  457. 17:14this is not the worst thing in the world. I
  458. 17:16mean, look at what Buckley has done.
  459. 17:17He took a tiny country nobody could place on
  460. 17:20a map and made it world famous.
  461. 17:23He took one of the most dangerous places on
  462. 17:26earth and made it safe.
  463. 17:28And he did more than anyone to put Bitcoin on
  464. 17:31the global stage.
  465. 17:32I'm not blind to any of that.
  466. 17:34It's real and it matters.
  467. 17:35But Claudio Ortiz said it on the stage
  468. 17:37yesterday. And popularity is not legitimacy.
  469. 17:41So here's what the Oslo Freedom Forum has
  470. 17:43taught me if we don't do the actual work of
  471. 17:46journalism, if we don't ask uncomfortable
  472. 17:48questions, if we don't speak truth to power,
  473. 17:51then we lose that truth.
  474. 17:53Claudio Ortiz asked the journalists in the
  475. 17:55room to do one thing yesterday do not live
  476. 17:58with his name.
  477. 18:00Live with the name of the people that are
  478. 18:02being silenced. Challenge the narrative.
  479. 18:06Challenge the narrative,
  480. 18:08she said. Demand accountability.
  481. 18:10So that's what this is.
  482. 18:11I'm not here to pretend that a safe
  483. 18:13dictatorship is a happy ending just because
  484. 18:16it stacks SATs.
  485. 18:17Because the people who actually live under
  486. 18:19it, the ones that had to speak to in whispers
  487. 18:22in another country, they can't say that for
  488. 18:24themselves. And if those of us with a
  489. 18:25platform and a passport won't say it for
  490. 18:27them, then what exactly is all this freedom
  491. 18:30money for? I'm Joe Nakamoto,
  492. 18:32reporting from the Oslo Freedom Forum.
  493. 18:34Hit subscribe and I'll see you on the next
  494. 18:36video. In the meantime,
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  496. 18:40real world Bitcoin adoption story.
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