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0:01[music]
0:07[music]
0:09Hey there. Have you ever gotten a wild
0:11revelation from the most random things?
0:14Are you [music] looking for God but
0:15can't seem to really find him? Have you
0:18ever wondered if [music] God is really
0:20there?
0:22Well, here on God in the details, join
0:25me as we embark on a journey [music] to
0:27find God in the most unlikely, absurd,
0:29and random things from Kasa to Yara and
0:32even FIFA. So, buckle up, put on your
0:35thinking cap, and let's find God in the
0:38detail.
0:41[music]
0:47Hi guys. So, as we start this episode, I
0:50have a question. What did you eat last
0:52night? You watching this? You ate
0:55indomi. You ate kink. You ate fufu. You
0:58ate something very heavy before you
1:00slept. Yes, I'm judging you.
1:03You didn't open this podcast to be
1:05judged, but you are [music] being
1:06judged. Sorry. Welcome to another
1:09episode of the God in the details
1:10podcast. And as you can already see, we
1:13are about and all. If this is the first
1:15time you're listening to this, yes, this
1:18podcast, that's what it's about. It's
1:19about finding God in a very random
1:21things. And this one is not as random,
1:24but it's very very very very
1:27interesting. So,
1:30you've heard my voice. Uh, you don't
1:32want to hear it again. Let me move to
1:34someone's voice that you all want to
1:36hear. Ladies and gentlemen, the person
1:40who introduce herself is who is seated
1:42here.
1:42>> Oh my god. [laughter]
1:45Hi everyone. So, should I look here? Oh
1:47my god. messing it up.
1:48>> It's for you.
1:49>> Okay. So, my name is Dana Madina. I am a
1:52registered dietician. To be honest, this
1:55question, who am I? I still don't know
1:57the answer to it yet. But we are still
1:59learning. We are still getting to know
2:01[music] ourselves day in day out. God is
2:04teaching us more about ourselves. So, my
2:06name is Anama. I you may know me as diet
2:09with D online. [music]
2:10I work I actually do a 9 to5 but after
2:14my 9 to5 I have a 5 to9 which is content
2:18creation. I try to create content um on
2:21diet on nutrition to help people
2:23understand it better because there's so
2:25much that we don't know. And I'm a
2:28Christian. I really really believe in
2:31God. I'm a Jesus baby and [music] I am
2:35blessed. I'm happy that I have a lot of
2:37good people around me. my family, God,
2:40my pastor, Pastor Elliot. Thank you so
2:42much for everything. Um, my kingdom
2:45ambassador's family.
2:49>> Yeah. My church, Economy Church, and the
2:52pastors, everyone there. Thank you so
2:54much. So, that is me. I'm still learning
2:56about myself. So,
2:57>> amazing. Amazing. Okay. So,
3:01again, we'll just go straight into it.
3:03Why did you become a dietician? I think
3:05there are a lot of it's not one of the
3:09very popular um
3:12professions you hear for young people.
3:14When you hear dietician when I heard
3:16dietician I thought it was going to be a
3:18very old person. So why did you go into
3:21that?
3:22>> Okay. So I actually wanted to study
3:24medicine.
3:25>> Oo
3:25>> but I'm far.
3:28Yeah. I was I think the point I didn't
3:30reach the you know there's a a cut off
3:33>> point that you need to get into it I
3:35didn't get there so
3:36>> I just had to study the dietetics by
3:39default initially I was pissed like ah
3:42why you know I'm not enjoying this thing
3:44when I'm done I'll go and do but
3:47now I'm done and I realized that look I
3:49enjoy this thing so
3:51>> I think I feel like
3:52>> it in itself is already like a
3:54>> it's I feel like that's God's purpose
3:55because [music] if I was a doctor I
3:57don't think I'll be given time for all
3:58these things, I'll be very tired. So, I
4:03think it's God's purpose and I'm
4:05grateful to God.
4:06>> So, basically, you being a dietician is
4:09God's purpose. Yes.
4:10>> And even the way he brought you to that
4:13>> is through disappointment.
4:17>> Exactly.
4:17>> But he was able to turn that for your
4:19good.
4:19>> Yeah.
4:20>> That's amazing. That's amazing. So
4:22getting ready for this episode, I
4:24realized that the first ever temptation
4:27in the world [laughter]
4:29>> was about food.
4:30>> Yes.
4:32>> From yours from from your from your
4:36view.
4:36>> Mhm.
4:37>> How essential is food [music] in the
4:40Bible?
4:42>> Charie, there's a lot of things. Oh,
4:44there's a lot. There's [music] I don't
4:46even know where to start from. But as
4:48she said, the first sin wasn't it wasn't
4:51war. It wasn't murder. Murder came. I
4:54mean, Kane did something there, but
4:56>> the first one was food. A meal gone
4:58wrong. That was the apple.
5:00>> I said apple. Sorry. They said it's not
5:02apple.
5:02>> Yeah, they said it's not apple.
5:03>> So,
5:04>> you know, you know, you know when when
5:05when we having one of these episodes, I
5:06said it might be have even been go or
5:08something.
5:08>> Yeah, it could be anything. I don't
5:10know.
5:11>> It's be a fruit or a vegetable.
5:14>> Sorry guys.
5:15>> It's a legume.
5:17So that one is okay.
5:19>> Nah, it's a legume.
5:20>> Okay. What kind of why [laughter] why
5:22did you put me on the spot like that? So
5:25um yes, the the fruits, you know, that's
5:29what brought man down. And so that was
5:31the first thing. [music] And God started
5:33creation with food. You know, he created
5:36plants for us to consume, for man to
5:38consume. And then the last I think
5:40revelation the last thing was I think
5:42there was a tree or there was a feast at
5:44the end. If you read Revelation, there
5:47was a feast at the end. So everything,
5:48you know, at every point there was food.
5:50And whenever God wants to make an
5:52announcement, whenever Jesus wants to
5:54make an announcement, he [music] has
5:55this feast that he he does with his
5:59disciples. So I feel like food is very
6:01important. Jesus was almost tempted with
6:05food. He just stood his ground. But food
6:08is it's like every point in the Bible
6:10there's food. Even when Jesus wanted to
6:12reference himself, he didn't say I am
6:14the I am the I want to find a word,
6:18>> you know, I'm the I'm the
6:21hope of
6:22>> chal
6:23>> glory.
6:23>> Yeah. He was like I'm the bread of life.
6:26Why that?
6:27>> It shows how food is very important
6:29[music]
6:30to God to me. I'm happy. I'm happy that
6:32I'm doing this.
6:33>> Okay. So So I I'll ask a very huge
6:35question.
6:36>> Okay.
6:36>> Jesus Christ is the bread of life,
6:38right? And again, it's funny how it's
6:40interesting how we are doing this now
6:41because over the past few months, I've
6:43tried to be more intentional about my
6:45eating habits. You know, I I won't say
6:49it here cuz
6:50>> But I've not said anything.
6:52>> I've not said you said anything, but I
6:54just won't say but I'm just being more
6:55intentional and I've realized that bread
6:59is worrying us sometimes.
7:03>> Let's let's let's get a bit more
7:05practical.
7:06>> Okay. How
7:11bread?
7:12>> Mhm.
7:12>> Okay. We use it for you know breakfast.
7:16Some people we have lunch. [music] Some
7:17people have supper with bread. How
7:21essential or how how practically can we
7:24have bread and won't harm us? Cuz I know
7:26bread has a way it can harm us cuz most
7:29of the people listening here by now
7:30listening you're holding bread.
7:34Then when they squeeze it, the calories
7:36go out.
7:37>> You know, there was there was this video
7:38there was an eating competition. The guy
7:40just compressed the bread, right?
7:41>> Yes, I saw it.
7:42>> Yeah.
7:43>> Ch crazy. It will still go inside. It
7:46will be the same thing.
7:47>> Compressing it doesn't decrease.
7:48>> So tell us about bread.
7:50>> So bread,
7:52see bread is not bad. Bread is not bad.
7:54It's just for some people people who
7:56easily get constipated. [music] I don't
7:58think you should be doing too much
7:59bread. If you've noticed, bread causes
8:01constipation. Lots of bread. And when
8:03you are having diarrhea, some people
8:04will just advise you, oh just take bread
8:06to stop it. [music] So I would say that
8:08you should slow down on the bread. If
8:10you have issues with your gut, you are
8:11not able to empty your bowels often. You
8:13go to the washroom once a week. [music]
8:15I think you should hold on, slow down
8:17with the bread. And um if you have
8:20diabetes or you have any issues with
8:22your sugar or hypertension or anything
8:24like that, I would suggest you go for
8:26the wheat bread or the brown the one
8:28they call the brown bread. It's not
8:29brown bread. Please name
8:32>> it is
8:33>> it's not brown bread.
8:35>> No, it's brown. Bran is like wheat. B R
8:38R A N.
8:39>> Hey,
8:40>> but it's like Oh, it's a brown like
8:42what's brown.
8:43>> And no, if it's brown, so it makes it
8:45worse cuz it's brown.
8:46>> Exactly.
8:47>> Huh.
8:48>> Interesting.
8:49>> But you know, even the brown bread, we
8:51don't we hardly see the original ones
8:53now. People do a lot of the flour, the
8:55wheat flour in it. So, we don't really
8:57see the the brand in it.
9:00So, it's back to square one. But let's
9:02try maybe in the mall we can get some of
9:03those ones, the ones that [music] are
9:05mainly whole wheat. So, you can do that
9:08instead of always doing the white bread.
9:10I think that's a better option, a better
9:12replacement.
9:13>> So, please, they said eat brown bread.
9:16>> Yeah.
9:17>> Not brown bread, brown bread. [laughter]
9:19But then that leads me to another
9:20question. Um, for you personally, what
9:22has been your journey with food? I would
9:25say I think everyone has like a personal
9:27journey with food from allergies to
9:30eating habits. What has been your
9:32personal journey and how did that change
9:35after you started studying dietetics?
9:37>> Okay. So I me I like I like food and it
9:41was worse when I was a kid. I used to
9:43heat my plates up like the rice would be
9:45like a mountain on it
9:46>> like intentionally doing. Wow.
9:48>> Not intentionally but I would take so
9:50much that it would be heaped. So every
9:52time my cousin's like, "E, why?" You
9:54know, she used to always shout when she
9:56sees my plates. But now that I've
9:58studied the dietetics, I I'm able to I
10:01still like food, but I'm able to know
10:03what works for me, the portions, the
10:05quantity. I'm able to regulate that
10:07better. So I don't eat even though I
10:10like food, I don't eat
10:12anyhow.
10:15>> Okay. [laughter]
10:16I have another question. Okay. Okay.
10:19Okay.
10:19>> Yeah. So that that's that's how my
10:20relationship with food is great. I don't
10:22have it. The fact that I'm a dietician
10:23doesn't mean I will not go out and eat
10:25my fufu or go for a party. You know when
10:27you go for parties I don't like parties
10:30these days.
10:31>> Why?
10:32>> Because when I go everybody's they think
10:34I'm come to judge them. They think I'm
10:37some food police come to check. Hey what
10:40I mean they end up judging me.
10:43[clears throat] M
10:44>> it's like I mean I don't care eat your
10:46fufu but when I'm eating something
10:48they're like
10:49>> So when you go for [laughter]
10:52>> Oh me I like rice. I like jalof. So I'll
10:55just go for my jalof. I don't like to
10:56eat fufu
10:57>> in public.
10:59>> Exactly. Or maybe I go out to a local
11:03some a joint with my friends. That's
11:06fine. But not a party. I don't like to
11:08go and take fufu at a party. I think I
11:11think on on on the last podcast that you
11:12were on that's unscripted with Ran, you
11:14[music] mentioned the portions of Yes.
11:18>> of how our plates should look like. And
11:20I know it's interesting how I remember
11:23learning this in school. It's being
11:25called a balanced diet, you know, with
11:27[music] the proteins, with the
11:28carbohydrates, and with So, can you can
11:31you touch on that again for the
11:33believers listening to this?
11:34>> Yeah,
11:35>> cuz I will get to it. I feel like that's
11:37one of the parts of our belief journey
11:39that we are not very intentional about.
11:43I won't get ahead of myself. You just
11:45talk to us about that. The the balance
11:47that
11:47>> Let me just come in with the believers
11:48bit. I It's true. I feel like a lot of
11:50believers do not eat well.
11:52>> Yeah.
11:52>> Especially our men of God. No shade, but
11:57a lot of them are not taking care of
11:59themselves. So, but as you said, we'll
12:01come back. You know, but on the side, I
12:02I just also want to talk to the people
12:04that invite ministers and give us malt
12:06and pie already. Pie is a pastry and you
12:10give it to us at 9:00 p.m. When should
12:12we eat the am I?
12:14>> Oh, sure. It's true. It's not even It's
12:16not just there. Even in the corporate
12:17world like you go for programming item
12:2013 is pan.
12:22>> It's not good. What should they be
12:23giving us?
12:25>> The thing is will you people eat it? You
12:28see if they if they serve you veggies if
12:30they serve you veggies
12:32>> veggies
12:32>> a salad bowl will you will you eat salad
12:35bowl?
12:35>> Yes.
12:36>> Is that my
12:38>> some of them? Well, it depends. Some of
12:39them add some fish.
12:41>> Is it Ghanaian salad or just the leaves?
12:43>> Ghanaian salad. Chal that thing is it's
12:46crazy. Ghanaian salad is wild. But back
12:49to the thing you asked um the question
12:50you asked on balance
12:52>> the balance plate.
12:53>> So it's the same info I'm going to give
12:55here. So half of your plate should be
12:57your veggies or your soup or your stew.
13:00So usually when I only say veggies,
13:02people think, hey, so if I'm eating
13:04fufu, it means that you know they get
13:06confused. So just take it as half of
13:08your plate should be your 50% of your
13:10plate should be your soup or your stew
13:12or your vegetables.
13:13>> Okay,
13:14>> that should be rather plain tea.
13:17>> Again, I think there this this topic
13:20excites me, so permit me if I go on a
13:22little side tangent. What do you say
13:24about the people that do jolof with
13:25stew?
13:27Like so the way I saying half of the
13:29place should be stew veggies but the
13:32jolaf is so should I add stew to the
13:35jolov you me I like adding stew to my
13:37jof I know people come and say you come
13:39for me but I want more of the stew.
13:42>> Okay.
13:43>> I want it to be richer so I'll add stew.
13:45[music] But what you can do is to add
13:48the ve the veggies will be that your
13:50salad will be the half for the jolo. Do
13:53you [music] get it?
13:53>> I I get it.
13:54>> So you do you have your salad on the
13:55half.
13:56>> Okay. So half veggies, soup
13:58>> and then the other half
14:00>> will be your carbs, the rice, boom,
14:02fufu. That should take that quarter of
14:05your piece. And the remaining quarter
14:07will be the proteins, fish, egg,
14:11chicken, meat.
14:13>> That will take the other the other
14:14quarter.
14:17>> Why are you saying as for something you
14:19have to say?
14:19>> Pork is not bad. Pork is not bad. It's
14:21well it's not nothing is really bad.
14:23It's just that it's how much you take
14:25>> and pork has fat in it. Pork is actually
14:28white meat.
14:30>> You know white meat is better than red
14:31meat.
14:31>> Oh
14:32>> that's if you want to control your
14:34>> your pressure and your cholesterol
14:36>> pork.
14:36>> Yes. But there's a disclaimer. Pork has
14:40a lot of fat. So it kind of cancels it
14:43out. It's like it's good but the fat is
14:45also a lot. So yeah, back to square
14:48[music] square one square zero. Do you
14:51get it?
14:52>> Yeah, I get it. I get it. Okay. So you I
14:54I mentioned that we'll talk about
14:55believers. One of the main topics I want
14:58us to talk about on this episode is the
15:00topic of fasting and I think there comes
15:03a point in time where either fasting is
15:06done to the extreme or it's not done at
15:08all.
15:10I have had to study fasting because
15:13again out of all the spiritual
15:15disciplines prayer [music]
15:17the word um fasting fellowship fasting
15:22is my hardest
15:24is heading right so I've had to study it
15:27more and I know that it has more health
15:29benefits
15:30>> so talk to me about fasting from [music]
15:33a dietician's point of view
15:35>> okay so fasting is actually great you
15:38know that when you fast it's it
15:40activates a certain process called
15:42autofagy. [music] So autofagy
15:44>> let us go there.
15:46>> So autofagy is um basically your body
15:49clearing its cell [music] stuff dead
15:52cells and it's like it's clearing it
15:55system. So it's a very good thing. So
15:57when you [music] fast it's boosts that
15:59process it activates that process
16:01better. That's why it's good to fast
16:03aside the spiritual benefits. It's good
16:06once in a while just fast.
16:10dump you will dump the food in your
16:11stomach your stomach needs a break
16:13sometimes so it's like
16:14>> so when you say once in a while what
16:16frequency do you think people should
16:18even for the physical side and not just
16:20the spiritual side what frequency do you
16:22think people should fast
16:23>> for frequency there it depends on you
16:25>> okay
16:25>> cuz some people if you fast too much
16:28>> it can [music] affect you so it's it
16:30will depend on you your goals and
16:32everything what what you are up to the
16:34work you do we have to consider all that
16:37I can't just [music] sit here to say
16:38okay fast twice a month challenge. So
16:41we'll take it and
16:42>> and go and everybody will be like hey
16:44[music] so you you need you need a
16:46personalized guidance on what you have
16:49to do.
16:49>> So go and check dietwithd.com we have a
16:51website right now so please check it
16:53out.
16:53>> Yeah but again well the the the main
16:56point is that we should [music] look at
16:57fasting from a from a physical point of
16:59view. Talk to me about the spiritual
17:01point of view. So for the spiritual you
17:02know fasting is
17:06if you're not able to fast
17:10um it just shows you how you've made
17:13food your I don't want to say you made
17:14food your god but I think I should say
17:16like that if you're not able to fast
17:17it's you are not able to let it go even
17:20[music] once in a year it shows how food
17:24has become some kind of god in your life
17:26so as a Christian like you should be
17:28able to fasting the h it gives way for
17:31the hunger to come in and the hunger
17:33allows you to experience other things.
17:36It's like you are giving food away, you
17:37are giving distractions away for another
17:40thing to fill that void for the presence
17:42of God, for the voice of God to be heard
17:45clearly in your life. So sometimes you
17:47have to let those things go, let it go
17:49so that you can hear other things
17:50clearly, hear the voice of God, see what
17:52you have to do, um know what God wants
17:54you to do at every point in time.
17:56Personally, do you have any um
17:59testimonies [music] from fast?
18:01>> Yes, even this week. So, this week I
18:04fasted um this week, today Saturday and
18:08this week I fasted for like 3 days and
18:11it was about a certain project coming up
18:15with [music] someone and initially it
18:17was very slow. We were not getting any
18:19feedback but when I did so far about 30
18:22people have yeah 30 people have reached
18:25out and I was like wow which hardly
18:27happens usually when we are going to do
18:29it five people reach out but this time
18:3130 people reach out like yeah it's
18:33working it's working. [laughter]
18:35>> I think I think that the the interesting
18:37thing about fasting is we see it in
18:39every or most of the um essential
18:43spiritual parts of the Bible. we see
18:46that Jesus Christ as strong as he was.
18:48And I have this um revelation [music]
18:50that I I work with that I don't believe
18:52that Jesus Christ um was tempted because
18:57he fasted. I believe he fasted because
18:59he was going to be tempted.
19:01>> The temptation was was a set time. Most
19:04of the things that we face sometimes are
19:06set in stone, are going to happen. What
19:08the Holy Spirit does is he reminds you
19:10of the things you have to do [music] in
19:12order to fight those things better.
19:13Because just as you said, fasting is a
19:14weapon
19:15>> and fasting makes you more [music]
19:18um open to hear the word of the Lord. Um
19:21I I would also want to talk about
19:23>> before before you come,
19:24>> there was I just I just realized
19:25something. Um there was this part of
19:27scripture where Jesus said when you
19:28fast. He didn't say if you fast.
19:30>> Like my mind just went I think he was
19:32giving instructions for fasting and he
19:34was like when
19:34>> Yeah.
19:35>> If if fasting should be optional for the
19:38believer.
19:39>> He should have used if. And and it even
19:41goes to the time when the disciples
19:43couldn't cast out the [music] demon and
19:45they came to him. They brought him to
19:46him and they were like
19:47>> what happened? We've been doing all the
19:49other things and it's like [music] this
19:50kind
19:51>> this kind
19:52>> cannot go. That means there's a kind and
19:54I think I I see that from what you were
19:56saying that there's a project happening
19:58you're like nah this kind goeth not but
20:02by fasting and prayer. So if you are
20:05listening to this and you struggle with
20:06fasting, [music] um I I I want you to do
20:09this for me again because we want this
20:10podcast to be practical. Talk to the
20:11person that is like listening and finds
20:13it hard to fast. I think there are a lot
20:15of different ways to fast in the [music]
20:17Bible which definitely can work for
20:20someone.
20:20>> Yes.
20:21>> So which talk to us.
20:22>> So you know before let me just say this
20:24before I start um before every season
20:27every major season in a person's life
20:29the person fasted in the Bible. So when
20:30we see Elijah, one of the greatest
20:32prophets, he fasted for about 40 days.
20:35>> Um Jesus fasted for 40 days.
20:38>> Daniel fasted even though it wasn't the
20:40typical, [music] you know, but that's
20:41also a good thing. And who else? I'm
20:43trying to remember. But there were lots
20:44of Esther.
20:46>> Yes,
20:46>> Esther fasted because she knew she was
20:47going to do a very major thing.
20:50>> So see, if you're not fasting, you're
20:52doing yourself. But as a believer, there
20:55are different types of fast. There's
20:56fruit and vegetable fast. There's dry
20:58fast, intermittent fasting. But
21:00intermittent fasting is more inclined
21:02towards health health reasons. But you
21:04can adopt that once in a while. There's
21:07um
21:09why have I forgotten this thing? There's
21:11vegetable fast. There's a lot of fast.
21:14Some people even fast from their phones.
21:15Yes.
21:16>> But once in a while, be doing the one
21:19that will clear your stomach, let your
21:20stomach rest a bit, [music] the normal
21:23one. There's also fast that is not dry.
21:25You can take water, you can take coconut
21:27water, fluids and all that. So there are
21:29a lot of fat fasts. I'm sure if you go
21:31online right now, you see a lot of them.
21:33So
21:35as a believer,
21:38let me let me say something very
21:40controversial. You know, there are
21:41people who don't fast because they have
21:43ulcer.
21:44>> Talk to me.
21:46>> Yes. But
21:48sometimes when you fast, there are
21:50people who have fasted and it has healed
21:53them from the
21:54>> OSA.
21:56>> Sometimes we are scared. We've not tried
21:58something but we are scared. [music] We
21:59don't know. We just heard but we are
22:01scared to do it because we assume but we
22:04we don't really know
22:06what will happen if we do it. You know
22:09sometimes you just need to take a step
22:10of faith and try some things. You feel
22:12like oh I have ulcers so I can't do it.
22:15But [music] there are people who have
22:16done it and they've been healed. There
22:18are men of God and regular people who
22:20have done it and they've been healed. So
22:21I think you can try it once in a while
22:25just try a normal fast. Um [music] if
22:27you can't to for health reasons you can
22:29do your vegetable fast, fruit and
22:31vegetable fast. I think in January at
22:34church [music] we did fruit and
22:35vegetable fast.
22:36>> Yes. But I think
22:39you are not allowed to take milk and
22:40some other things during the fast
22:42because it can affect affect your tummy.
22:43So if you know you want to do a fruit
22:46and vegetable fast, I think you should
22:48reach out to a dietitian. [music] And
22:50the churches, I want churches to bring
22:53on board health professionals. You know,
22:55they should they they should make us
22:57involved in some of these things because
22:59sometimes you listen maybe the man of
23:02God is given rules for the fasting.
23:04You're like, "Hey,
23:07you know, some people can be affected,
23:08[music]
23:09but you've not really asked us what we
23:12want. what what what we what you think
23:14is right for them. So [music] I think
23:16they should bring on board health
23:17professionals. I
23:18>> think so too. I think I think definitely
23:20like for when periods of even even in
23:23the Bible even in the like with the
23:26Israelites when there was going to be a
23:27period of fasting there was always
23:29instructions that God gave on what
23:31things they should do in the fast. I
23:33think [music]
23:34even concerning food like the festivals
23:36of unleven bread and everything there
23:38were instructions. So yeah, I do agree
23:39with you that health professionals
23:41should be more invol like should be made
23:43involved [music] in these periods like
23:45this and also agree with you on the fact
23:48that [music] that's why God has given us
23:50different types of fast. We look at
23:52Daniel, we look at Daniel, Shadrach,
23:54Meshach and Abednego and they told the
23:55king that we we can't eat that meat.
23:58>> We have our thing, we will eat and we'll
23:59be fine. That was a big step of faith
24:01and that [music] type of fast it it
24:04yielded so many results. You know the
24:07the next thing I want to talk about is
24:10breaking the fast.
24:12>> I think there are so many times when
24:15>> breaking the fast negates the fast.
24:18>> Yes.
24:18>> Totally.
24:20>> So breaking your fast needs to be
24:21gradual. You don't just So there was
24:24this guy who was doing a fast. I was
24:27engaging this guy and he was telling me
24:28that he did a fast and [music] he wasn't
24:30breaking well. He would break with bread
24:33and sometimes wi you know boom boom boom
24:37boom like that and it affected him
24:39eventually he got some serious
24:41constipation and it became [music] I
24:44don't know how long he was fasting but
24:45it became something very serious so when
24:48you are breaking it start gently start
24:50with sips maybe fluids your tea
24:54>> [music]
24:54>> um if you have some juice you can start
24:56with that something very light then you
24:58progress to the soft food then you
25:01progress to your solid meals because
25:03your stomach has been closed for a
25:06while. So you don't just bake it you if
25:08they come and wake you up like that's
25:10you you will be fix you get
25:12>> you know one thing I want to say is I
25:13really like the way you relate like
25:15[music]
25:16the the body is still the body but you
25:18relates the feelings of the body.
25:20>> Yes in the sense because again back on
25:22the podcast you mentioned that [music]
25:24eating late is not advisable because the
25:26body is also resting like the body is
25:28also sleeping. So the way I saying wake
25:30it up.
25:31>> Yes. If they come and wake you up like
25:33that, you would not be happy. You would
25:34be
25:35>> so we should break with
25:36>> funny. So start. Yeah. You can some
25:38people are okay with fruit. But the
25:39fruits, not the acidic ones.
25:41>> You cannot go and break with sh
25:45>> take your you cannot you cannot go and
25:48break with orange.
25:49>> Yeah.
25:50>> Lemon. No. You would you would affect
25:52your
25:52>> lemon yourself.
25:54>> Yeah. So that's my two cents on that.
25:58>> Breaking your fast. Mhm.
25:59>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But then again like
26:00just to touch on it before we move to
26:02the next [music] segment about like um
26:05the core of a fast, the core of a fast
26:08being the spiritual discipline enough to
26:11move away from you know viewing [music]
26:13food as just as you said like I can't do
26:15without it to moving that I can't do
26:17without God. So always replacing you
26:20know I think a fast is also about
26:22intentional replacing intentionally
26:24replacing
26:25>> your time your your um all your
26:29activities with the activities of God.
26:32So even if like you you have a health
26:34condition you have a a tummy problem and
26:36you know you can't do that being
26:38intentional about replacing it as you do
26:40like a Daniel fast or a vegetable fast
26:42or something. Yeah. The next question I
26:44have is personally for you again I I I
26:46really want to understand your journey
26:48because I think it's an amazing journey.
26:51What do you think what is one of your
26:53hot takes
26:56>> about believers in in how [music] they
26:58eat in in food?
27:01>> Okay. Um Ghana Ghana is how many what's
27:03the percentage of Christians in Ghana?
27:05>> Yeah, I don't remember. But
27:07>> but we are a lot maybe like 90%. Please
27:10don't come for me. I'm not sure. But we
27:11are a lot of Christians.
27:13So why is it that we go for events
27:17and people who are fighting over food?
27:19Most of us are. We we all say we are
27:20Christians.
27:21>> This thing,
27:23[laughter]
27:23>> you go for a program and I don't
27:25understand that thing at all. Why are
27:27you fighting over food?
27:29>> Cuz you're hungry.
27:30>> Buffet and you are Oh, there was this
27:32program I went for. Oh, I was shy.
27:35People's mothers and fathers, it's like
27:37they were come to beat. I think I was
27:38the one behind I was serving. So [music]
27:41they were really angry. They were come
27:43to you know very it was getting
27:45aggressive. Someone even insulted me.
27:47>> Oh
27:47>> because I didn't give you an extra an
27:50extra pack of food
27:51>> because of food.
27:52>> Yes. Because of food. She had already
27:54come and I told her that look ma I've
27:56seen you already. You been here already
27:58[laughter] and then she begs like eh
28:01it's not for her it's for her grand some
28:03stories be but we knew that they were
28:05coming for
28:06>> you get into trouble.
28:08>> I'm sorry. No, no, no, no. But again, I
28:10think I think it's a very it's a very
28:12good one because that's one of the
28:13things that me um if you go for a
28:15program and you get food to eat like
28:17>> it's enough. Why?
28:19>> So you feel like
28:20>> So I feel like that's me that's it's
28:22something that bothers me like it really
28:25bothers me. So I I I think we should
28:27stop that. We should after you eat it's
28:30okay. Maybe if there's extra when
28:33everybody's done and you feel like I
28:34need more then. But that whole
28:36aggression, you are packing some in your
28:39bag. Yeah. Someone was even pouring the
28:41food in her purse.
28:43It's is a lot of it's embarrassing as
28:45well. So
28:47>> let's do better.
28:48>> Okay. The next thing I I I want to talk
28:50about is basing this on the verse that
28:51says taste and see that the Lord is
28:53good.
28:55What do you think cultivates people's
28:57[music] taste for stuff? Because again
29:00as a dietician one of the hardest and I
29:02was going to talk about this earlier so
29:04I'm glad it's come back. One of the
29:05hardest things to do is when you are
29:08actually craving something like like
29:11there are some things that so maybe you
29:13come home late but you are craving the
29:15food. Bible says taste and see that the
29:17Lord is good. Obviously [music] David is
29:19you know directing it to the presence of
29:21the Lord. How do you think as a
29:23dietician you would advise believers to
29:27curb their taste for stuff? Okay. So
29:30sometimes taste for stuff comes from it
29:34stems from emotions.
29:36>> Okay.
29:37>> The whole emotional eating thing. So
29:41you may emotions are not bad. Emotional
29:44eating is not totally bad. Sometimes
29:46when we say emotional eating we put it
29:48in a box of glutiny. We feel like
29:50emotional eating is glutiny. But there's
29:52a lot of things. There's a lot of
29:54different ways. There's anorexia.
29:55There's binge eating. a lot of
29:58categories of that. Even in the Bible,
30:00when Elijah was very emotional and
30:03depressed, [music]
30:03>> eat and sleep.
30:05>> Yeah. When you are sad, the first thing
30:08to do is to eat.
30:09>> Yeah.
30:10>> So, it's not totally bad to eat when
30:12you're sad, but you know, it's how you
30:14go about it. Because in the Bible, God
30:15book, God sent an angel to Elijah to
30:18>> wake him up. Shall eat? And it was more
30:20than one. It was two times
30:21>> and after he gave him the instructions.
30:23So,
30:23>> so are you trying to say that maybe the
30:24angel was saying that Elijah will get in
30:27so she wake up and eat
30:29>> guys?
30:31>> What? [laughter]
30:32Yeah.
30:34So, it's it's it's interesting. It's
30:37very interesting because he didn't just
30:40give him the instructions like, "Hey, go
30:41go go and do whatever you have to do."
30:43He made the angel feed him first. Not
30:45once, not twi. I think it was just
30:47twice.
30:47>> Twice.
30:48>> And then [music] after that, God gave
30:49him the instructions. So, sometimes you
30:51are not nourished. You just you need to
30:54eat first then your mind will be clear
30:56you know sometimes you're not sad you're
30:57just
30:57>> not sad you know that thing is actually
30:59true sometimes
31:00>> you know you feel depressed and things
31:02and so they just give you some go
31:05>> you know
31:05>> exactly
31:06>> some very heavy go [music] with
31:08>> exactly
31:09>> some
31:10>> but the issue with cravings is some of
31:13them are dopamine driven so dopamine is
31:16a hormone
31:18>> so that one dopamine driven [music]
31:20feelings are more like wants oh I want
31:22this. They are more like wants. They are
31:25not needs. You don't really need it.
31:26Nutritionally, you don't need it, but
31:28you just want it.
31:29>> Is there a way to tell the difference?
31:31>> Yes. So, usually the things that you
31:33want, the ones that are dopamine driven,
31:35is it's quick and you know the specific
31:38thing you want.
31:40>> Hey, I'm craving for ice cream.
31:42>> Okay,
31:42>> it's quick. And when you finish taking
31:45it, sometimes you feel guilty.
31:47But the normal one, the normal hunger,
31:50you know, normal regular hunger, it's
31:52gradual. You would eat things that are
31:55available. You don't really want a
31:56specific [music] thing. Usually, there's
31:58options. You just go for one of them and
32:00then you'll be fine. You don't really
32:02feel guilty. But with emotional eating,
32:04like binge eating, when the dopamine
32:07drives it, you you feel guilty about it
32:09usually
32:10>> after,
32:11>> especially if you're checking your
32:13weight.
32:13>> Yeah.
32:15that that's another thing I want to talk
32:16about. I think um weight gain and weight
32:19loss is a thing that a lot of people you
32:22know you know but but before we even go
32:25into that um I just want to finish with
32:27this this emotional thing [music]
32:30there sometimes you are not always what
32:32you eat sometimes
32:34>> you are
32:36what your [music] emotions I don't I
32:37don't know how to express it well it's
32:40like your emotions you are what your
32:42emotions want it's not always you're not
32:44always what you have so you [music] You
32:46need to ask yourself, why do I want to
32:50eat this? It's 9:00 p.m. or it's 10:00
32:52p.m. There's bread in the kitchen.
32:54>> There's bread in the kitchen. You've
32:56just got to take it.
32:57>> You're coming for me.
32:59>> Like you, you've eaten around 7.
33:01>> You're okay. It's not like you're
33:03hungry.
33:04>> You're okay. But you just see the chips
33:06or you see the bread, it's like let me
33:08take some.
33:08>> You know me, you know my problem. My
33:11problem is with snacks. [music] Like
33:12every day I want something sweet.
33:14Exactly. So for a period I started doing
33:16fruits instead. So when I finish eating
33:18and I want to do maybe biscuits.
33:20>> My favorite is milk shortcake biscuits.
33:22Munchies bring sponsorship.
33:25[laughter] Right. Yeah. But then I
33:27started doing fruits and it helped for a
33:29while.
33:30>> I mean that's good. That's actually
33:32good.
33:32>> Yeah. But I've stopped doing the
33:34biscuits now.
33:34>> Okay.
33:35>> And the fruit. But I'll get back to it.
33:37>> Okay. You need some fruits. Actually we
33:39need we need about two servings of
33:41fruits every day.
33:42>> Every day. We don't. Yes.
33:44>> Which kind of fruit?
33:46>> So a serving of an apple for example. An
33:48apple a seven is one.
33:49>> So an apple a day
33:50>> keeps the
33:54>> So we need we need we need act. So let's
33:57say let me make it practical. You need
33:58like two apples a day. If it's bananas
34:01you need like four a day. You need two
34:03servings of fruit every day. But one we
34:05don't do it. So even me sometimes I
34:08don't do it.
34:09>> So So do you mean two servings in a
34:10[music] at a go or space out? You can
34:12space it out. So maybe in between your
34:14meals, in between your l your breakfast
34:16and your lunch or in between your lunch
34:18and your supper, then you have it
34:21>> and five servings of vegetables.
34:23>> Jesus.
34:24>> Yep.
34:25>> Like
34:26>> but it includes the stew. So
34:28>> if you're doing a lot of stew, you're
34:29making up for it. Your stews and your
34:31soups.
34:31>> Again, I think we have a very just is
34:35a stew.
34:37>> No.
34:39No. It's a sauce and it's a sauce,
34:42right?
34:42>> So, it's not part of [music] the half
34:45like if I'm doing rice and
34:49>> I don't know. I don't see is overheated.
34:52The process takes a lot of heating. The
34:55structure of the oil changes.
34:57Um, at a point it can even become
35:00cancerous. I'm taking I'm taking my
35:02words carefully. No, no, no. I feel like
35:04we have cut this part out [laughter]
35:06even because
35:07>> again, you're not saying she talking
35:08scar, please. It can be because because
35:10of the way it is made [music]
35:12>> when it's the oil when it's heated for
35:14too long it can increase the trans fats
35:17in it. [music] So the oil instead of sis
35:19fat becomes transfat the structure
35:21changes it flips
35:23>> because of the heat and that can be
35:25cancerous. It can be very dangerous.
35:27>> Yeah.
35:28>> So
35:29maybe we should minimize how much we
35:31take it. We can't say we are cutting it
35:33out cuz it's part of our culture. But we
35:36should just check how much we take and
35:37then [music] how we cook it. So if you
35:39are doing your sh at home yourself, I
35:40think you should reduce the heating
35:42time.
35:43>> Should reduce the heating time. But you
35:44see it's a heating that also make it
35:46nice. That's what will turn it black and
35:49then make it nice. So just just minimize
35:52the number of times you take it. And if
35:54you are doing maybe kito add your
35:56veggies, cut some tomatoes, onions,
35:59green bell pepper. So when a woman is
36:01giving me plants, I should have J brain.
36:04>> I mean why not? But try and add other
36:06things to some tomato.
36:09>> What the woman has only
36:11>> when you come home come and cut it and
36:13add it.
36:14>> Okay. I've heard.
36:16>> But it's a start for a start. Jenny
36:18plenty J works.
36:20>> Yes.
36:21>> I think I think one thing I I like that
36:23you are saying is the fact that
36:24everything is a start like with eating.
36:27I like the fact that you're not the kind
36:28of person I say no stop this like you
36:31understand that it's a start. So if
36:32you're listening to this and you're a
36:33believer you're looking at going into
36:35fasting looking at being more
36:36intentional about your food because food
36:38has a lot of power.
36:39>> [music]
36:39>> food was able to transfer birth rights
36:41>> cholu
36:44[laughter]
36:46[snorts] that's stew I want to taste it
36:49>> I don't know
36:51>> another thing I want to talk about is
36:52physical activity
36:53>> okay
36:53>> as believers I think um we I think
36:56sometimes believers we get very lazy we
36:59get very lazy sometimes we are not we
37:01are not intentional about movement
37:03>> talk to me about the relation between
37:06food and movement
37:09Okay. So if you're eating you eating
37:12you're dumping it in your system over
37:13and over again especially heavy meals
37:16carbohydrate dense meals and you are
37:18sedentry you are sitting behind your
37:21behind your PC the whole day what
37:23happens is you end up storing some of it
37:26as fat the ones that you don't use. So
37:28the body uses some of it and then the
37:30rest of it is stored [music] as fat. So
37:32you keep on gaining weight. But if at
37:34least you're active in between your
37:36working hours, you are using the
37:37staircase. You're not using the
37:38elevator. You're using more of the
37:39staircase. You are doing things on your
37:42own. You don't send people to take this
37:44file to the next office. You yourself,
37:45you take the file.
37:46>> Is there something on your heart you
37:47want to say?
37:48>> Yes. I came from violence today. Um
37:52yeah. So if you take the file to the
37:53next office, you know, all these little
37:55things, you increase your steps every
37:57day. You try maybe set a target. Some
37:59people do 10,000. It works for them. You
38:01can start with maybe 5,000 if you are
38:03very sedentry and then we'll see how it
38:06go. It's better than just eating dumping
38:09it in. And some people have to reduce
38:11their portions. Some people need if you
38:13are someone who is not doing much. You
38:15don't need much. Don't eat to be to be
38:19stuffed.
38:20>> Eat to be satisfied. Don't eat to be
38:22stuffed. You know there's some kind of
38:24fullness that you you feel
38:27it's like you want to sleep like one
38:30that type of mention that there's a name
38:31for that thing when you are feeling
38:33sleepy after eating
38:34>> postpandial som
38:37>> yes [laughter]
38:39>> when you feel sleepy it's it's it's a
38:41reaction it's normal
38:42>> especially when you take heavy meals
38:44>> so but as I said try and check your
38:48portions if you're someone who is not
38:49really active reduce your portions
38:52of the carbohydrates, increase your
38:54veggies, your proteins. You know, when
38:56you do proteins, it makes you feel full.
38:57>> Yeah.
38:58>> When you increase your protein, so you
38:59can increase your proteins a bit [music]
39:01and then we'll see how it goes. If you
39:03can sign up for a gym, too, ch why not?
39:05>> And walk. Like right now, people are
39:06running.
39:07>> Yeah. I like the running culture.
39:10>> It wasn't like that some years ago.
39:11>> No, it wasn't. First running. It's like
39:13why are you running around? like it was
39:14only the white people would be saying
39:16running but now I like the fact that we
39:17ourselves are
39:18>> you know even as believers prayer walks
39:20are very very therapeutic thing prayer
39:22walks prayer runs whenever I used to run
39:26I used to do it with my headphones and
39:27then give me my Sunday [music] I'm not
39:30there you know
39:32>> me I can't run with
39:34>> if you you follow
39:36>> I want the you know the upbeat side the
39:39pop
39:40>> he has some of them so okay
39:42>> yes yes but Yes.
39:43>> The typical typical Sunday music is like
39:46I can't
39:49>> Okay, now we're about to enter into the
39:52biblical deep side of the podcast,
39:55right?
39:56>> The Bible itself is food for us. The
39:59Bible itself [music] is food. Okay,
40:03[laughter]
40:03>> he's he'sing me right now
40:06>> as a dietician.
40:08>> Okay.
40:08>> You obviously are communicating that you
40:11have to have a balanced diet. You have
40:13to eat some things, eat everything in in
40:15in moderation.
40:17From your personal view and your
40:20building in the word of God, what would
40:23you say that believers listening to this
40:26should learn more from the Bible?
40:28>> Okay. [music] You know, there was a part
40:30in the Bible where Paul was blasting
40:32some people that they were eating too
40:34much of the communion.
40:35>> Yeah. Yeah.
40:36>> Yeah. Like that's a typical example of
40:38eating too much. Why are you That's my
40:41issue. Why are you fight? Why are you me
40:43today? I came for that.
40:44>> You came for that. Okay.
40:45>> Who fights over food? You are
40:49when you see food, it's like you're
40:50aggressive. No, relax. So I I think
40:54Christians should take a quue from that
40:57>> that story and [music] then take a queue
40:59from ESO
41:01>> with how food is very food can be
41:03transactional. [music]
41:04food is used for trans. In fact, um if
41:06you look at some parts of Asia, Asian
41:09Asian something, I forgotten, but some
41:11parts of Asia when you eat together,
41:13[music] it's like you're entering a
41:14covenant with a person.
41:15>> I think they still do that in India.
41:16>> Yeah.
41:17>> When you eat with your hands.
41:18>> Exactly. India,
41:19>> you are entering a it's literally like a
41:20a covenant. It's a binding contract with
41:22a person.
41:23>> The we bound with people.
41:26>> So that is why our mothers were like
41:28don't go and eat anybody. It's not
41:30everybody's food you eat because food
41:32can be transactional. They can poison
41:34you. They can give you whatever.
41:36>> That doesn't mean go around and say the
41:38person you see the person food is
41:39poison.
41:40>> Exactly. So you need
41:42>> as a Christian you need to be led. It's
41:43not everybody's food that you go and put
41:45your hand in and eat.
41:46>> And those of you have been putting your
41:47hand in people's food. Someone Oh,
41:49yesterday somebody did something to me.
41:50>> Oh,
41:51>> like the person just came put her hand
41:53in my food.
41:54>> Ah.
41:54>> Out of the blue. I was like, so I
41:56couldn't eat again because first of all,
41:58I don't know where you're coming from.
42:00>> The gems. And
42:01>> Ghanaians, we don't wash our hands. I'm
42:02part.
42:03>> Yeah.
42:04>> Don't wash our hands. Wash your hands.
42:06>> You remember there was this there was
42:07this advert where the gems were blue.
42:10>> Pink. Yeah. It was was it key soap?
42:12>> I don't know. But she went to the
42:13washroom. It was like a campaign. It
42:15wasn't soap. They were teaching her
42:17something.
42:17>> She came to Pufu.
42:18>> Yes. And it was everything was Oh, I
42:20like that advert. They should bring it
42:22back.
42:23>> They don't need more of those campaigns.
42:26[laughter]
42:26But you saying in the Bible there was a
42:28point where Paul was talking about the
42:30kind of foods relating the word of God
42:32you know saying that we should crave for
42:35[music] the milk.
42:36>> Exactly.
42:36>> And there was also a point in time where
42:38he was saying that you need to graduate.
42:40I think that for the word of God there
42:43are some people that have been stuck on
42:45the you know the the the the normal
42:48things. But if you're listening to this
42:50just as the so talk to us from from from
42:52a side of food I know that there's there
42:55are some things that you should grow to
42:56eat. [music] For example, I didn't know
42:58things like chia seeds were like the
43:02only time I saw seeds and I thought it
43:04was okay was when it was on the burger
43:08>> I promise like like but then again the
43:11more I'm growing the more I'm realizing
43:12that those things are good fiber. Guys,
43:15I came prepared.
43:17I came from
43:18>> I'm impressed. I'm impressed. I would
43:20say
43:21>> they're good fiber. Right. [music] So
43:22talk to us about you know I'm sure the
43:25demographic for people listening to this
43:26are you know
43:28>> genz's
43:28>> jenz's yes but again people from their
43:3120s you know mid late [music] early 20s
43:34to early 30s and even late 30s. I also
43:37have some you know mothers and fathers
43:38listening to this. Talk to us about some
43:41of the things we have to graduate to
43:43start eating just like in the word of
43:44God. Okay. So, you mentioned the seeds.
43:46The seeds,
43:48>> it's not part of our culture.
43:50>> We didn't grow up eating seeds. Our
43:51parents, you know, when you start
43:53>> feeding a child with something, that is
43:55what they grow up to like the taste.
43:58>> Exactly. It it develops their pallets,
44:01their tongue, their pallet. So, their
44:03pallet gets used to such foods. So, if
44:05growing up your mom was always giving
44:06you drink, drink, drink, drink, drink,
44:08drink.
44:08>> I have a question. So, the palette like
44:10on the tongue is like the thing on the
44:11tongue. No, it's it's a structure.
44:14>> It's a structure.
44:15>> Yes.
44:16>> I thought okay.
44:18>> So if if if you are always being given
44:20drinks, a lot of drinks during
44:23childhood, you grow up and you you grow
44:26with it. Your taste buds get used to it.
44:28They like it. It has it has you know
44:32there's something called um
44:34socialization. That thing that really it
44:36has it has been socialized.
44:38>> Add my psychology. Say yeah. So it's
44:41also it's also conditioning you know
44:42you've been conditioned to feel like
44:44drinks give you that [music] you know
44:47response it's called a condition
44:49>> conditioned response so whenever you get
44:51drinks you're happy so just as you're
44:53saying you
44:54>> you grow up and then you are taking it
44:55so we need to start introducing it I
44:57think we should start
44:59>> someone said by next four years we'll be
45:01having we're watching the world cup with
45:03our kids so we should start [laughter]
45:09>> we should we should start we should
45:10start by then we should start feeding
45:12our kids when when they get to a certain
45:14stage where they can chew
45:15>> obviously not when they are babies we
45:17should start adding it to their meals if
45:18it's cocoa can sprinkle some seeds on it
45:21for them
45:22>> if they have the teeth to chew
45:24>> they can start chewing
45:25>> because I think that even with
45:27connecting um developing a pallet to the
45:30things of the Lord if you raise your
45:33kids [music] up in a particular
45:34understanding of who God is and what
45:37kind in the way they should go
45:39>> and what kind of the word of God they
45:42should receive when they grow up. For
45:44example, um I'll use my parents as an
45:46example. They they were careful to let
45:48us know that this is how we serve God.
45:50That's the food I grew up with, serving
45:53God, service to God. So, growing up,
45:55[music] I'm still eating that food. I'm
45:57still trying to even let other people
45:58eat that food. And same thing as you are
46:01saying, I think there are some people
46:02that don't grow [music] up or with a
46:05certain type of food or type of
46:07understanding of who God is. God is
46:09love. God is God is peace. God is kind.
46:13When you grow up understanding that
46:15that's the food you eat.
46:17>> The fruit of the spirit.
46:19>> Let's go there. Talk to me.
46:20>> The fruit of the spirit. Like when way
46:22you were saying it, it just it just it
46:24just came to mind. The fruit of the
46:25spirit. Love, joy, peace, Ghana, all
46:27those things.
46:29>> Food. It's fruit. Like it just makes
46:32sense.
46:32>> And you know the thing about fruits,
46:33fruits have to be cultivated.
46:36M
46:37>> so the fruits of the spirit have to be
46:38cultivated. So you know you were even
46:40talking about like fruits and the type
46:42of fruits. There are some fruits that
46:43are acidic
46:44>> but that doesn't mean that they are not
46:46healthy. They just not to be taken at a
46:48certain time. So that means the same
46:50with the fruits of the spirit. There are
46:51sometimes when the
46:52>> some that are some are difficult to to
46:54to cultivate.
46:56>> Yes. Like cocoa takes like seven years.
47:00Long suffering takes long
47:01>> and some are sweeter than some.
47:04>> Love is sweet. M
47:05>> but something like longsuffering.
47:07>> So we can use love. Maybe love can be
47:10pineapple.
47:10>> And then sometimes it's s give me
47:13something like sweet. Um al good to me.
47:16>> Hey life is tasty.
47:19>> And then and again longsuffering can be
47:22lemon or something.
47:23>> Lemon.
47:24>> Yeah.
47:24>> Lemon. It's true.
47:27>> Very.
47:27>> But then it's essential.
47:29>> Yes. Because when you add lemon to some
47:32[music] like those mixtures and things
47:34and you add a dash of lemon, it's just
47:36>> Do you know why we add lemon to some
47:37people sprinkle lemon on their salad?
47:39>> No.
47:40>> So veggies, most of veggies, especially
47:42the green ones, have iron in them.
47:44>> Mhm.
47:45>> And lemon has vitamin C.
47:47>> Mhm.
47:48>> Vitamin C helps with the absorption of
47:49iron.
47:50>> Mhm.
47:51>> You get it?
47:52>> So that thing that they drizzle lemon,
47:53it's not for fun. Everything ch
47:56everything is has a reason
47:58>> and you know some people also add olive
47:59oil dressing to their salad. Olive oil
48:03has fat
48:04>> and some of the veggies have um fats in
48:07them
48:07>> okay
48:08>> you know so olive oil helps with the
48:09absorption of those those ones the fat
48:13soluble vitamins so vitamin A D E K
48:17olive oil helps because of the fat in it
48:19it helps the body to absorb the fat
48:22soluble vitamins in them. Wow.
48:24>> So everything is challen
48:28our grandparents were doing
48:30>> most of them made sense.
48:33>> You know why they they pound they have
48:35to pound fufu? Have you thought of it?
48:38Why do we have to pound it to get it?
48:40>> Why?
48:41>> Because when you when you apply pressure
48:43on the cava or whatever most of the
48:46starchy foods that we have
48:47>> but let's use cava. When you apply
48:49pressure on the cava there's something
48:51in it called gluten.
48:52>> Yeah. So gluten activates and that is
48:55what causes it to be that sticky.
48:57[music] That is the gluten that is. So
49:00you need to apply pressure for the
49:01gluten to come out.
49:02>> Okay.
49:03>> And then make it that sticky jelly like
49:05thing.
49:06>> Yeah. [music]
49:06>> So that's why we pound
49:08>> everything. Everything I think because
49:10even if you look at most of the parables
49:12that Jesus Christ gave, it has to
49:14[music] do with trees. It has to do with
49:16vegetation. It has to do with food. And
49:19[music]
49:20even one of the biggest miracles we see
49:23was with food.
49:24>> Yes.
49:24>> Bread and fish which I haven't eaten
49:27before. Like
49:29>> was it
49:29>> I've eaten bread and chicken but not
49:31bread and fish.
49:31>> Why? Why haven't we eaten bread and
49:34fish?
49:34>> We should try. We should have
49:36>> I don't try. Should have had a basket
49:39with the bread and the bread and fish.
49:42We
49:42>> do. What kind of fish will you do?
49:45Maybe
49:47maybe tuna.
49:50>> Okay. No, I didn't think about a tuna
49:51sandwich.
49:52>> Yes. So that's bread and that's actually
49:54bread and fish.
49:55>> Yeah, but it's most of them are the
49:57canned ones.
49:58>> But that's fine. I mean it's it's not
50:00it's not terrible. It's good. It's okay.
50:02Just the oil that should be checked.
50:03>> Wow. I think I think I think food food
50:06is very very intentional. God has been
50:08intentional with food. The last thing I
50:11want to say has we we are winding down.
50:13This has been an amazing like you try.
50:16You try. You try. I just I just want us
50:18to talk to anyone watching this that
50:21>> just feels like food is normal. Like why
50:22are we trying to make make a big deal
50:25out of it? I'm just eating. I want you
50:27to [music] tell us this from both a
50:28spiritual point and a dietician's point.
50:31>> Okay. So God didn't we don't have to
50:33villainize food. I feel like people
50:35people feel like dieticians and people
50:38who are health conscious we like to make
50:39food look but if you're not supposed no
50:42because Jesus liked food
50:45Jesus went for parties Jesus took wine
50:48>> it's food is is good created food for
50:51our I feel like God created food as a
50:54gift for us
50:55>> yes
50:55>> so food is great you know God always
50:58Jesus always had these feasts with his
51:01people is not against enjoying your God
51:04is not against having fun with friends.
51:07Having a get together with your friends,
51:09[music] you eat and then you go. Why do
51:10they call it chal? They go break some
51:12bread. Why? Why do they call it that?
51:14>> Part of the things he said. He said so
51:15fellowship and the breaking of bread.
51:17>> Exactly. Because God knew how eating
51:20together is binding.
51:23>> It's binding.
51:24>> So he adopted that with his people.
51:27>> And another thing I I want to talk about
51:29something I'm going blank.
51:32Go.
51:32>> I had something in mind I wanted to talk
51:33about, but I'm I'm It's It's still
51:35coming back. [music]
51:36There was a scripture in my mind. I've
51:38forgotten about it.
51:39>> It will come. It will come to come.
51:41>> I'm trying to remember. I'm not
51:42remembering.
51:43>> Come. Let's Let's talk. It will come.
51:44But I'm sure that yet God talking about
51:47food is a very spiritual very very very
51:50spiritual thing because again I'll use
51:52I'll always use taste and see as an
51:54example. Why does he say we should taste
51:56and see?
51:57>> That means first of all you have to
51:59>> eat it.
52:00>> Mhm. And then from eating it you have to
52:02embibe it [music]
52:03>> and from embibing it you are able to
52:05have that revelation of
52:06>> the goodness of the lord. He relates
52:08[music] his goodness
52:10>> to food. That means food is good but
52:12everything in moderation.
52:14>> Exactly. Everything we we said in the
52:16beginning that fasting is also very very
52:17very essential because the same thing
52:19that he gave us [music] to help us and
52:22to you know guide us is the same thing
52:24that he's like you know what sometimes
52:26it has a propensity to become a god. So
52:29take your time with it.
52:30>> And in relation to the eating in
52:33moderation and people being
52:36aggressive with food, [music]
52:38there's actually scriptural evidence
52:40that shows that because
52:42>> you know when Jesus was given, God was
52:44giving them the mana in the wilderness.
52:47>> Mhm.
52:48>> He I feel like that story just shows us
52:50how God wants us to depend on him.
52:53>> Yeah.
52:54>> Daily.
52:55>> Give us
52:56>> our daily bread.
52:56>> Give us this day. Daily our give us
52:59today our daily bread for our daily
53:01bread because whenever they store the
53:03gospel
53:04>> gospel
53:05>> I there's a huge message there
53:08>> because it it's just a way of showing us
53:10that we need to trust God daily. Trust
53:12God daily for your for your
53:15>> provisions your food and everything.
53:17Trust God. It doesn't mean that you
53:18should throw your food away. No, I'm not
53:19saying that. But it's just a a symbolism
53:22how we need to come to God daily. So
53:27>> you know the says that um and again when
53:29Oppoa came on this podcast he mentioned
53:31that like clothing is such a prohibition
53:33because he says that do not care about
53:35the the liies or the birds of the earth
53:37and the birds he said that they don't
53:38care about what they eat but he feeds
53:40them every [music] day and who any of
53:43you from worrying can add a measure to
53:45your life that means if you are watching
53:47this and sometimes again we are not
53:48saying that it's easy it gets hard
53:50sometimes you don't know where the next
53:51meal is coming from but God cares. cares
53:54[music] about your food, cares about
53:56what you are eating. So, he's going to
53:58provide for you.
53:59>> And another thing I want to add, um,
54:01[music] sometimes you have to ask
54:02yourself, what am I hungry for?
54:05>> What is making me hungry?
54:07>> It could be, it could be something
54:10you're feeling, but you're using food as
54:11a cover up. Maybe you need to talk to
54:15someone. You need to pray more. You need
54:17to do something more. But you just feel
54:19like, let me just go and get something
54:20to eat. So before you you you you grab
54:23something random to eat when you know
54:25that you're not supposed to do that you
54:28have to ask yourself these things.
54:29>> You know it's interesting because even
54:30the verse that we always used to say
54:31that we should eat plenty that's like
54:33God waking as as we referenced. He
54:35actually prayed and told God that this
54:37is how I'm feeling and then he slept and
54:39God said okay this is what I want you to
54:41do.
54:41>> So there's something I called halt. I
54:43call halt. H A L T. You need to ask
54:45yourself am I hungry?
54:46>> Mhm.
54:47>> Or I'm angry. That's the [music] A.
54:49Please, my G people.
54:52>> I'm sorry. I'm sorry. [laughter]
54:54Am I hungry or angry? [music]
54:57>> Lonely,
54:57>> lonely or tired? You need to ask
54:59yourself all these things cuz sometimes
55:01you are using food to fill a certain
55:03void that you need to
55:05>> you need to pray about.
55:06>> Hold is usually used in the context of
55:08self-control and temptations.
55:10>> It's also used for food
55:11>> and it's used for food too because
55:14most of the temptations we we face
55:16>> Yeah. [music] are on the line of our
55:18desires. So
55:19>> there's this lady that um saw me, this
55:22older lady um [music] she she has an
55:25emptiness now. Her children have
55:27traveled, some of them have married
55:28[music] and she's only gaining weight.
55:30Why? Because she was lonely.
55:32>> So she was eating to
55:35>> she was just eating to fill the void and
55:36she started gaining. So she came to see
55:38me and all that. So it's something
55:39people actually do. People eat a lot
55:41when they get lonely.
55:43>> Yeah. So as we wrap up, I want you to
55:46talk to someone that is watching this
55:48and feels that food is just normal also
55:52feels like um
55:55feels like fasting is a very difficult
55:57thing to do. So [music] food is normal,
55:59fasting is a difficult thing to do and
56:01they are looking to find God in that
56:03area of their life.
56:05>> Okay. First of all, I want to say when
56:08when you eat this evening, say thank you
56:09to God. When you [music] have a a plate
56:12of food on your table this evening, just
56:14say a prayer. I don't remember the last
56:16time. I know some people who don't
56:18remember the last time they said a
56:19prayer
56:20>> before eating.
56:21>> God bless the farmer.
56:22>> Shal that thing. We've
56:23>> stopped eat we've
56:27we've stopped that thing. We need to be
56:28doing it more. Say thank you to God cuz
56:31there are people who are not getting
56:33that first of all. And it's food is
56:37God's love language to us. That's
56:38something [music] I always say. Food is
56:40God's love language that but he himself
56:42came in the form of he said he's bread
56:43he's wine so I know that it's very
56:45important to God and we need to check
56:48our appetites what is driving you is
56:51[music] is food becoming a hindrance to
56:54you are you are you not able to fast
56:56like you have to look at all these
56:58things are you able to let go of food to
57:02get something else in return if you're
57:04not then you need to check that and then
57:06we need to bring back the habit of
57:08eating together.
57:09>> I think we need to bring back as a
57:11family cuz through that a lot of things
57:14[music] are done. A lot of decisions are
57:16made. Jesus did that with his disciples.
57:20So I think we need to also start doing
57:21that. And what else is there to say? I'm
57:24trying to remember what else. Let's see.
57:26But that's it. And go to www.dwithd.org.
57:31>> Yes.
57:32>> Today.
57:33>> Thank you.
57:34>> Thank you so much. Thank you so much.
57:36This was an amazing episode and I know
57:39that food we're going to look at food
57:40differently from now.
57:41>> Yeah.
57:42>> Thank you so much.
57:43>> Thank you too.
57:43>> Catch you on the next episode.
57:47>> So I'd just like to remind you that no
57:51matter the situation you find yourself
57:53in, it can be anything, [music] even the
57:55most unlikely thing. I just want to
57:58remind you that if you look carefully
57:59enough, you will see God in the detail.
58:04Thank you.
58:09>> [music]

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