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  3. 0:14Are you ready?
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  9. 0:46>> What's up, guys? Welcome back to Large
  10. 0:48Lads, the most lethal lifting show on
  11. 0:50the internet with your host, Murder Max,
  12. 0:52Killer Clong, and Slaughter Sam.
  13. 0:54>> Very violent. What if you get us
  14. 0:55demonetized? Thank you to the fan who
  15. 0:56submitted that one except for how to
  16. 0:58come up with one.
  17. 0:58>> These videos that we can't monetize like
  18. 1:0090% of the time because of our use of
  19. 1:02copyrighted music in
  20. 1:03>> Yeah, this is the one that you can't
  21. 1:04actually monetize. They were wearing
  22. 1:05hats, so I had to make my own.
  23. 1:07>> Yeah, I didn't know Max didn't own hats
  24. 1:08until today.
  25. 1:09>> The return of the top hat.
  26. 1:11>> I will be going bald. So, I was thinking
  27. 1:12I might as well reintroduce the top hats
  28. 1:14now.
  29. 1:14>> You got to start exploring.
  30. 1:15>> Every bald guy in the world has to come
  31. 1:17up with what style of hat they are.
  32. 1:18>> Yeah, start exploring hats.
  33. 1:19>> I've never seen a bald bald guy commit
  34. 1:22to the top hat.
  35. 1:23>> I've not seen it. That's going to be my
  36. 1:25stick.
  37. 1:25>> I've seen a bunch of people wearing
  38. 1:26those like little like golf caps again.
  39. 1:28Those are coming back. Have you seen
  40. 1:30that?
  41. 1:30>> Oh, the ple peaky blinders ones. Yeah,
  42. 1:32those ones are coming back.
  43. 1:33>> Whack. [laughter]
  44. 1:36>> Listen, self-exression is sick. The old
  45. 1:39When I was younger, I would see people
  46. 1:40like wear goofy [ __ ] I'm like, WHAT A
  47. 1:42[ __ ] IDIOT. NOW THAT I'VE GOTTEN
  48. 1:44OLDER, I WAS LIKE, MAN, being boring is
  49. 1:46boring. I respect the people that are
  50. 1:49willing to eat everybody looking at them
  51. 1:51and thinking, "What an idiot." Because
  52. 1:53they like something.
  53. 1:54>> That's awesome.
  54. 1:54>> The Pey Blinders hats are even in my era
  55. 1:57of self-expression is cool.
  56. 1:59>> Yeah. No, man.
  57. 2:01>> There's there's a minimum age
  58. 2:02requirement on that one.
  59. 2:04>> Uh, you know, I I think the uh the
  60. 2:07British strong men hitting it all
  61. 2:08hitting it recently is kind of
  62. 2:09endearing. Like,
  63. 2:10>> well, if you're British and above a
  64. 2:11certain age, by all means, right?
  65. 2:13>> Yeah. If you're British and you're above
  66. 2:14like 30 or you look like you're above 30
  67. 2:17like Luke Richardson. Yeah. Right. Like
  68. 2:19okay. Him and Graham wearing them like
  69. 2:21all right this is pretty this is
  70. 2:22actually pretty endearing. I like it.
  71. 2:24>> But young American dude it's a hard
  72. 2:26cell.
  73. 2:27>> Cool.
  74. 2:29I'm really contradicting myself bad on
  75. 2:31this self-expressionist based and cool
  76. 2:33thing.
  77. 2:35These I'm going start knocking these
  78. 2:37[ __ ] cowboy hats off of people's
  79. 2:38heads. [laughter]
  80. 2:39>> I love that they started with Yeah. You
  81. 2:41know, I just, you know, like I really
  82. 2:43respect people who will go out there and
  83. 2:44wear what they want to. That's not going
  84. 2:45to stop me from thinking you're a
  85. 2:47[laughter] piece of [ __ ]
  86. 2:47>> Top hats. Awesome. Laring as a cowboy.
  87. 2:50You are a frat bro and a COWBOY HAT. GET
  88. 2:53THE [ __ ] OUT OF HERE. [laughter]
  89. 2:56>> There's a lot of those here.
  90. 2:57>> Every time every time we're in town in
  91. 2:59Bosezeman, they're just like walking
  92. 3:00around all over the place. I was like,
  93. 3:01"There has never been mud on your boots,
  94. 3:03you larer."
  95. 3:04>> Yeah.
  96. 3:04>> The way that people drive F-150s around
  97. 3:06here, you know, it really I I'll have
  98. 3:08some evil thoughts, by [laughter] the
  99. 3:10way. I I have to consciously catch
  100. 3:13myself sometimes like some guy will like
  101. 3:15blow by me when the weather conditions
  102. 3:16are terrible. I'm like I hope I see you
  103. 3:18in the ditch in a while. I I hope you
  104. 3:21don't die. I don't you know NOTHING BAD
  105. 3:23HAPPENS. I HOPE you're stuck in that
  106. 3:25ditch
  107. 3:25>> and also injured you know and lose your
  108. 3:27>> and lose [laughter] your job.
  109. 3:32>> Maybe maybe you hurt your shin hurts
  110. 3:34really bad actually.
  111. 3:35>> Yeah knee is never the same perhaps.
  112. 3:37>> Okay. away then they use one. [laughter]
  113. 3:41I can always count on every time we
  114. 3:43start going with a bit you immediately
  115. 3:46just take it too far where you're like
  116. 3:48we're like we don't like Mitcher and
  117. 3:50YOU'RE LIKE WE WISH DEATH ON HIM LIKE
  118. 3:52WAIT
  119. 3:54stop I don't know what the point of
  120. 3:56large lads is if I can't express my
  121. 3:57honest opinion
  122. 3:58>> godamn
  123. 4:00self expression [laughter]
  124. 4:03>> that's a form of self-expression
  125. 4:04actually your base there you go
  126. 4:07>> all right so I wrote down a bunch of
  127. 4:08stuff for the day Um,
  128. 4:12which one do I want to do first?
  129. 4:15Um, you and I were talking about the
  130. 4:17other day. I love when like someone
  131. 4:18stumbles upon our in one of our
  132. 4:19Instagrams. They're like, "Oh, man. This
  133. 4:21guy's pretty strong." And they don't
  134. 4:23know that there's a brother.
  135. 4:25>> Oh, that brings me so much joy.
  136. 4:27>> It is such a nuclear bomb. Cuz I've had
  137. 4:28a couple people be like, "Oh, yeah, you
  138. 4:29know, I'm coming up on your bench
  139. 4:30press." And I'm like, "Yeah, you're the
  140. 4:32second strongest sheet, bro. You got
  141. 4:34600."
  142. 4:35>> [laughter]
  143. 4:35>> I enjoy like I'll be at like we'll be
  144. 4:37like traveling or something and I'll go
  145. 4:38to a gym and like so we'll be like,
  146. 4:40"Holy [ __ ] that squad is crazy." I was
  147. 4:43like, "Yeah, you should see my little
  148. 4:45brother. He can do this for [ __ ]
  149. 4:46eight." [laughter]
  150. 4:48You you started adopting the same thing
  151. 4:50our dad does. We're like, "Yeah, you
  152. 4:52should see my my son. He's [ __ ]
  153. 4:53enormous."
  154. 4:54>> I do I do flagrantly lie about I'm like,
  155. 4:57"Dude, Max is [ __ ] 6'8", 400 lb.
  156. 4:59[laughter] I Kirsten actually does this
  157. 5:02where Kirsten keeps forgetting how Max
  158. 5:04is 6'2. Kirsten keeps forgetting how
  159. 5:07tall you are and will be like well he's
  160. 5:08pretty big so he must be about 6'4 6'5
  161. 5:11and he's like 400 I think he's like 400
  162. 5:13genuinely and then every time someone
  163. 5:15meets you in person they're
  164. 5:16disappointed.
  165. 5:17>> I keep like stealing Kirsten's jobs. I'm
  166. 5:19three for three right now of [laughter]
  167. 5:20stealing Kirsten.
  168. 5:22>> That's true. Kirsten worked at a pizza
  169. 5:23place. Followed her to the pizza place.
  170. 5:25>> I went and did that for a while. went to
  171. 5:27a lab. I went to that lab. It was me.
  172. 5:30I'm a coach. Now I'm a coach.
  173. 5:31>> Dude, you you you've shared the last
  174. 5:33same last three employers.
  175. 5:34>> I keep picking stupid just like I'm
  176. 5:37going to go throw tires up a hill and
  177. 5:39then I'm like, "Oh, well, this actually
  178. 5:40sucked ass. [laughter] Chris's job pays
  179. 5:42more money. It is way easier. I should
  180. 5:44go do that."
  181. 5:46>> I was going to say I was going to say he
  182. 5:47had the same last three employers, but
  183. 5:48then I was like, "Well, he did work at
  184. 5:49that lumber yard for one day."
  185. 5:51>> Hey, two days, right? Two.
  186. 5:52>> It was so funny. Max went to his m like
  187. 5:54it would be a good job. And then he was
  188. 5:55just immediately like, "Oh, this is
  189. 5:56going to [ __ ] my training. Never mind."
  190. 5:58>> Did we tell the story of how then you
  191. 6:00saw the guy who owns the lumber yard at
  192. 6:01our gym?
  193. 6:02>> He works at our He works at our gym.
  194. 6:04[laughter] He's always like side eyeing
  195. 6:05that.
  196. 6:05>> I I no call, no show. Quit that job.
  197. 6:08>> And then I was like, thank God. I do
  198. 6:11that.
  199. 6:12>> Wait, why did you do that?
  200. 6:13>> Uh, so it was not like an active choice.
  201. 6:16It was that like my shift started at
  202. 6:175:30 and I was like, I'm going to go to
  203. 6:19sleep
  204. 6:20>> and then I just slept like through it.
  205. 6:22>> Okay, but what about calling? Well, then
  206. 6:23they called me and then they were like,
  207. 6:25"Hey, what's going on?" I was like, "I'm
  208. 6:26not coming back."
  209. 6:27>> This is Okay. Well, this [laughter]
  210. 6:30this is actually morally not the right
  211. 6:31thing to do, brother. What the [ __ ]
  212. 6:33>> Yeah, I know. I was in the wrong
  213. 6:34[laughter] I like this is an awesome
  214. 6:36story that projects my best qualities. I
  215. 6:39was a teenager working a bad like a
  216. 6:41stupid job and I was like, I want to
  217. 6:43play War Zone and I just slipped right
  218. 6:45through my shift.
  219. 6:46>> H damn. Good times.
  220. 6:48>> Yeah, crazy stuff. I was living in
  221. 6:49someone else's parents' basement and I
  222. 6:51just I just slept right through a shift.
  223. 6:54>> It cracks me up how that is just like
  224. 6:55the general Zoomer methodology now is
  225. 6:59just ghosting jobs. I was like, I don't
  226. 7:02have to put this on my resume. So, it
  227. 7:04doesn't really matter. They're never
  228. 7:05going to contact you. [laughter] I'm not
  229. 7:07going to give you their information.
  230. 7:08>> Exactly. You work there for one day.
  231. 7:10There's no gap in your employment.
  232. 7:12>> Yeah. I'm going to go get a different
  233. 7:13job.
  234. 7:13>> That guy That guy is nice, too. [gasps]
  235. 7:16>> He's a nice guy.
  236. 7:17>> That's it. Well, it's a shame cuz he's
  237. 7:19real nice of me. She's like, "Dude,
  238. 7:20you're so strong. That's awesome." And
  239. 7:21I'm just like, [laughter]
  240. 7:23>> "I swear to God, you're the only job
  241. 7:24I've ever done that to," which is not
  242. 7:26true. [laughter]
  243. 7:32[laughter]
  244. 7:33All right. Well, so I I had another one
  245. 7:34that I thought was so so funny is like
  246. 7:36usually we'll talk about like lifters or
  247. 7:39athletes as being like genetically
  248. 7:42gifted, right? And sometimes we'll just
  249. 7:44say like, "Oh, they're really athletic,
  250. 7:46right?" Um, and like people come with
  251. 7:49this big athletic background. They tend
  252. 7:50to get really good at lifting really
  253. 7:52quickly. Even like bodybuilding, you can
  254. 7:53leverage your athletic history and
  255. 7:56knowing how to push all these things,
  256. 7:57right? It's not all the same though
  257. 8:00because you can get like the you can get
  258. 8:01the really gifted guy who's both
  259. 8:02coordinated and very like powerful. But
  260. 8:05there are people who are very
  261. 8:07coordinated and not particularly
  262. 8:08powerful. And then there's my favorite
  263. 8:11subdemographic which is naturally
  264. 8:14extremely powerful motor morons.
  265. 8:16>> It seems
  266. 8:17>> I love those guys.
  267. 8:18>> It's like one that's like kind of the
  268. 8:20most enviable position, right?
  269. 8:22>> No. No, it's not.
  270. 8:23>> But but just just for like rad points,
  271. 8:24right? Cuz they're always all jacked
  272. 8:26too. They they're
  273. 8:27>> there's some correlation with just being
  274. 8:29so explosive and just being like for
  275. 8:31some reason a lean 230 natty guy being
  276. 8:34powerful as [ __ ] and also moving things
  277. 8:37in an inefficient way makes you very
  278. 8:38much
  279. 8:39>> it must be so frustrating to be like I
  280. 8:40know I'm stronger than all of these
  281. 8:43dudes but you'll never be world class
  282. 8:45cuz you move in such a stupid way.
  283. 8:47>> It is.
  284. 8:47>> And they never get it either. They're
  285. 8:48just like I don't know what's happening.
  286. 8:49I can out dumbbell bench and curl and
  287. 8:51tricep extension all these guys and then
  288. 8:53I keep freaking out on the bench and
  289. 8:54it's not going well. [laughter]
  290. 8:57Um,
  291. 8:58yeah, dude. It's so funny like working
  292. 9:00with those guys. It's like you are just
  293. 9:02you touch a dumbbell, you get stronger.
  294. 9:04You move so power. You're just so just
  295. 9:07pure strength. Like if if you if we were
  296. 9:09to wrestle right now, I would be like
  297. 9:11immediately able to identify that this
  298. 9:13guy's strong as [ __ ] and is so
  299. 9:15>> Every time I get a new clan, I'm like,
  300. 9:16"What if we were to wrestle?" [laughter]
  301. 9:18>> That's how I appraise them.
  302. 9:20>> What if what if me and were you to
  303. 9:21wrestle
  304. 9:23[laughter]
  305. 9:24>> those? It's so funny like people don't
  306. 9:26know what to make of those guys. I also
  307. 9:28feel bad for the people on the other end
  308. 9:29of the spectrum who are like they are
  309. 9:31athletic in that they are unbelievably
  310. 9:34coordinated but they're not particularly
  311. 9:37naturally strong or fast. You you can
  312. 9:39learn a good sumo. You can carve a real
  313. 9:42niche for yourself in a lot of sports by
  314. 9:44being like the guy who is very propricep
  315. 9:46like not particularly explosive. He's
  316. 9:49not particularly strong but like your
  317. 9:52gift is bodily awareness.
  318. 9:54doesn't go quite as far in powerlifting.
  319. 9:56Like, yeah, you can learn a nice nice
  320. 9:57sumo, but uh at some point you're going
  321. 9:59to get cucked by the guy who does not
  322. 10:02know how to jump, but can somehow speed
  323. 10:04squat 500.
  324. 10:05>> It is funny that both ends of the
  325. 10:07spectrum you still kind of like you're
  326. 10:08going to lose to the person who has
  327. 10:10both, you know?
  328. 10:10>> Yeah, of course. Right. like you but but
  329. 10:12I that's kind of what I find endearing
  330. 10:14about like strength sports is I do think
  331. 10:18that like I I think you could put all
  332. 10:19sports on like a continuum of like skill
  333. 10:22to like physical qualities.
  334. 10:24>> Y
  335. 10:25>> right like there's a lot of sprinting
  336. 10:27skill but it's compared to other sports
  337. 10:30it's a very like all technique is
  338. 10:32involved in these things but it's very
  339. 10:34physical parameters dependent. Yeah. uh
  340. 10:36distance biking, there's a technique to
  341. 10:39it, there's like a pacing, there's a
  342. 10:40like but it's very physicality dependent
  343. 10:43and also those are the sports that are
  344. 10:44guaranteed to dope.
  345. 10:45>> Yeah.
  346. 10:45>> Where phys if physicality is always
  347. 10:47going to be the rate limiter and it's
  348. 10:48not skill that's where you get
  349. 10:50guaranteed doping.
  350. 10:52>> But um I like that strength sports most
  351. 10:55of them fall pretty far towards that
  352. 10:57physicality side where it's like even if
  353. 10:59you're a little underkilled if you're
  354. 11:01strong enough you're still quite good. I
  355. 11:03love how many guys are pissed about how
  356. 11:04much skill is required to be good at
  357. 11:06strength sports.
  358. 11:07>> IMAGINE LIKE THIS IS SUCH A LOW SKILLING
  359. 11:10SPORT. Like God, this shit's so [ __ ]
  360. 11:12stupid. [laughter]
  361. 11:14Dude, what? Like is is your dream sport
  362. 11:16just sitting on the leg extension and we
  363. 11:18all just [laughter] like go.
  364. 11:19>> I mean that's becoming like its own
  365. 11:21genre of training right now.
  366. 11:23>> It kind of is. Yeah.
  367. 11:25>> I listen I get the [ __ ] argument this
  368. 11:27is just what how good this is what good
  369. 11:28hypertrophy training is. Guys are just
  370. 11:31doing strength training on the leg
  371. 11:32extension.
  372. 11:34>> Guys don't want to learn how to squat.
  373. 11:36>> Yeah, that's that's become like its own
  374. 11:38genre of training is like strength
  375. 11:40training with the intent of showing off
  376. 11:42like a four or five RM on stable
  377. 11:45machines.
  378. 11:47I think there's a little bit of nuance.
  379. 11:48I don't think that's the exact same
  380. 11:50thing as really effective bodybuilding.
  381. 11:51you know, crucify me if you want, but
  382. 11:53like just being like training for a T-
  383. 11:55bar row 4RM is like now one of the most
  384. 11:57popular training styles in the world.
  385. 11:59[laughter]
  386. 12:02>> Oh, I was going to say the thing, but I
  387. 12:03just lost it.
  388. 12:04>> We should make a new strength sport
  389. 12:05where it's just going out and maxing on
  390. 12:06a machine so all these guys have
  391. 12:08something to do.
  392. 12:09>> Ah, yeah. The the prime machine 1RM
  393. 12:12contest. [laughter]
  394. 12:13>> Oh, I remember what I was going to say.
  395. 12:14>> Super super total. It's 25 events. Uh,
  396. 12:17in PT that happened all the time where
  397. 12:19someone's shoulder would hurt and they
  398. 12:20would come in and then the PT at the gym
  399. 12:22would teach them how to bench press
  400. 12:24properly. They'd be like, "Man, I had no
  401. 12:26idea benching was this technical." And I
  402. 12:28was like, "Well, yeah, they yeah, it's a
  403. 12:30there's some technique to benching
  404. 12:32without hurting yourself." But also,
  405. 12:34compared to like other sports, like you
  406. 12:36g like and it worked better. Like,
  407. 12:39>> but I think that's like foundational to
  408. 12:41how a lot of people view it is like the
  409. 12:43weight room is a thing with it's it's a
  410. 12:45lot of the same thing of like people who
  411. 12:47are not particularly savvy don't realize
  412. 12:50that there is running technique past
  413. 12:52just not looking like a idiot.
  414. 12:54>> Yeah, that's fair.
  415. 12:55>> They don't understand that there's like
  416. 12:56a high ceiling for efficient efficiences
  417. 13:02like you just [ __ ] run. It's the same
  418. 13:04people are like, "You just [ __ ] press
  419. 13:05the bar." And it's like, well, when
  420. 13:07technically true,
  421. 13:08>> when pressing the bar and running
  422. 13:09becomes the sport, there's very much
  423. 13:11technique involved. You know what I
  424. 13:12mean?
  425. 13:13>> I got a huge boost of confidence the
  426. 13:15other day.
  427. 13:16>> I had three old men at Costco ask me how
  428. 13:18much I bench press.
  429. 13:19>> Detailing and and thundering. Sorry,
  430. 13:22it's so distracting.
  431. 13:23>> So sunny.
  432. 13:24>> That's pretty cool. Uh, go ahead, old
  433. 13:25man.
  434. 13:26>> I had three old men ask me how much I
  435. 13:27bench press at Costco in one day.
  436. 13:29>> Dude, that's [laughter]
  437. 13:30awesome. Yeah, I was I was there to get
  438. 13:32new glasses and I I was like, dude, I
  439. 13:34was like [ __ ] spelt in this shirt.
  440. 13:36[laughter] What the [ __ ]
  441. 13:37>> I heard um I heard John Hack say it ages
  442. 13:39ago. I'm on the same boat where I'm
  443. 13:41like, I need to start I'm going to start
  444. 13:42lying downward in my benchmarks.
  445. 13:44>> Oh my god. I had a guy like you, yo, do
  446. 13:46you bench 300? I WAS LIKE, YEP.
  447. 13:48[laughter]
  448. 13:49I'M NOT GOING TO BE LIKE, "NO, I bench
  449. 13:50five. You won't piece."
  450. 13:53>> Every time. Every time.
  451. 13:54>> 405 is a good answer.
  452. 13:55>> I might start going and saying
  453. 13:57>> that's like realistic enough that they
  454. 13:58won't think you're lying. I they just
  455. 14:00>> 600 is a cartoonish number especially
  456. 14:02cuz like you are like a big guy but not
  457. 14:04like you look like a normal big guy.
  458. 14:07>> Yeah. Yeah.
  459. 14:08>> Like you say 600 sounds
  460. 14:09>> as hurtful as what you just said to me
  461. 14:11was
  462. 14:11>> cuz I damn
  463. 14:12>> I'm trying really hard to not look
  464. 14:14normal but
  465. 14:16>> Well, you're very good poundforpound.
  466. 14:18>> I know [laughter] that sucks.
  467. 14:20>> Your dots is crazy, bro.
  468. 14:21>> But people just like look like it's like
  469. 14:22if you say four or five like holy [ __ ]
  470. 14:24bro. That's crazy. I knew a guy did that
  471. 14:25once. Right. But if you say 600, they
  472. 14:27just look at you weird and move on. I'm
  473. 14:28like, "Okay, I guess I'm going to start
  474. 14:29saying a lower number." I feel even the
  475. 14:30worst for John.
  476. 14:31>> Oh my god. Just being like a normalsized
  477. 14:34dude and then being like, "Yeah, I bench
  478. 14:3766 lb."
  479. 14:38>> At this point, you can't say John is a
  480. 14:40normalsized dude.
  481. 14:41>> Yeah. He's 23.
  482. 14:42>> John Hack would be one of the most
  483. 14:44muscular human beings you've ever seen
  484. 14:46in person.
  485. 14:46>> Oh god. Cuz he went up. He's a 220 now,
  486. 14:48which means he's like actually like 235.
  487. 14:49Yeah. No. Okay. So, you know, look at
  488. 14:52look at regular jacket guy. [laughter]
  489. 14:53>> The internet. This is something
  490. 14:55>> dad bod,
  491. 14:57>> dude. John is just like a little victim
  492. 14:59weight dad bod, but he benches.
  493. 15:01[laughter]
  494. 15:01>> It's so strange. How's he going to do
  495. 15:02that?
  496. 15:03>> How does he do that? Um, [ __ ] What were
  497. 15:06we just saying? What were we just
  498. 15:07talking about?
  499. 15:09>> Uh, you looking like a normal big guy,
  500. 15:12not a giant. [laughter]
  501. 15:14>> It's funny because there's there's it
  502. 15:15goes two ways. It's very rarely
  503. 15:17accurate. like you you follow people who
  504. 15:19are like strong guys or big guys on the
  505. 15:21internet and you see them in person and
  506. 15:24they're never what they look like on the
  507. 15:26internet. They're either much much
  508. 15:28bigger for some reason.
  509. 15:30>> Y
  510. 15:30>> or they are much much smaller and are
  511. 15:34either very short or have been using
  512. 15:35like crazy angles
  513. 15:37>> and are nothing. Either way, I've been
  514. 15:39surprised every single time we've gone
  515. 15:41to like a big contest I saw someone that
  516. 15:44I like follow online. They're either I'm
  517. 15:45like, "Oh, wow. You are a much more
  518. 15:48muscular human being than I thought. Or
  519. 15:50you're not that [laughter] big. You're a
  520. 15:52little guy.
  521. 15:53>> You're a little guy.
  522. 15:54>> Especially powerlifterss I feel like
  523. 15:55more often fall into the little guy
  524. 15:57category.
  525. 15:57>> I really get the temptation of both
  526. 15:59multiply guys and bumfed guys. We're
  527. 16:02like to normal people. If you could just
  528. 16:04say a bigger number, that's your weird
  529. 16:06ego.
  530. 16:07>> You can say I bet A,000B [laughter]
  531. 16:10go 1,000b.
  532. 16:12You think 300? How about 1300?
  533. 16:14[laughter]
  534. 16:15Yeah, that that's I feel like that was
  535. 16:17like the driving force behind the
  536. 16:19multiply era.
  537. 16:20>> And that's also the driving force
  538. 16:21between behind all these teenagers doing
  539. 16:22it again.
  540. 16:23>> I saw his [ __ ] Yeah, I know the
  541. 16:24slingshot ass 900. Like, well, yeah, it
  542. 16:27was a quick, but like it's still 900.
  543. 16:29>> 900 lb.
  544. 16:30>> NO, IT'S NOT. [laughter]
  545. 16:32>> I almost broke my no commenting on
  546. 16:33random [ __ ] policy the other day cuz I
  547. 16:36saw it was this was ages ago. I know
  548. 16:38Dennis, I know you watch these. Dennis
  549. 16:40was freaking D was beefing with this guy
  550. 16:41who's like the second best multiply
  551. 16:45bencher basic. He's uh the guy who gets
  552. 16:47cucked by Jimmy Cole brutally.
  553. 16:49>> Sport is so small that you can just beat
  554. 16:51with a random [laughter]
  555. 16:52like I could probably get the attention
  556. 16:53of any world champion if I just made
  557. 16:55enough of a stink.
  558. 16:56>> He's just like I bench a thousand. I bet
  559. 16:57a thousand. It was like this guy's whole
  560. 16:58thing is just telling people that he
  561. 17:00benches a thousand without mentioning
  562. 17:01what multiply is. And he was talking
  563. 17:03down to Dennis. Dennis bench is more raw
  564. 17:05than you without your magical suit.
  565. 17:07Dennis is a better Dennis is natty. At
  566. 17:10least minimum talk to that man as an
  567. 17:12equal. Suck my dick.
  568. 17:14>> Well, he does double the weight. Sam,
  569. 17:15you [ __ ]
  570. 17:16>> I do twice. That was basically like,
  571. 17:17let's see you [ __ ] unrackck this.
  572. 17:20Let's see you go do Dennis's Max with
  573. 17:21our shirt on. You're going to tear your
  574. 17:23little weak equipped guy peck. [ __ ] you.
  575. 17:26Do not disrespect my goat. [laughter]
  576. 17:29I uh I those are the very very common
  577. 17:31thing of people like really wanting to
  578. 17:33like go to wherever they can say that
  579. 17:34they're a world champion. That's a
  580. 17:36really lame one.
  581. 17:37>> Yeah, that's that's something that's
  582. 17:38always been like if people act like it's
  583. 17:40getting worse. It's always been a thing.
  584. 17:42>> Also, why USA appeal national office has
  585. 17:44$3,000 people going to it?
  586. 17:46>> Oh, just to say you went to that's
  587. 17:48>> what the [ __ ] that's a [laughter]
  588. 17:50sickest market game was like pay us $300
  589. 17:53and we'll let you say that you're a
  590. 17:54national level competitor.
  591. 17:55>> Yeah, that's a that's a really
  592. 17:57interesting thing is not to let this
  593. 17:59I'll move on in a second. I don't want
  594. 18:00this to be like an overly negative
  595. 18:02podcast, but it's so in like I just not
  596. 18:04interesting. It's obvious. This is a
  597. 18:05normal thing. This is how everything is.
  598. 18:07But as like a purist of liking like
  599. 18:09strength training in the sport, it
  600. 18:11people are a lot less interested in like
  601. 18:13mastering the sport or like getting to a
  602. 18:15legitimately high level. They're a lot
  603. 18:17more consider like it doesn't matter
  604. 18:19what level they're at. As long as they
  605. 18:20can say something that holds value to
  606. 18:22people that don't know about it. Long as
  607. 18:24it doesn't matter if I'm actually
  608. 18:25competitive at nationals if I can tell
  609. 18:27people I'm a nationals competitor. It
  610. 18:28doesn't matter if I'm actually anywhere
  611. 18:30near the world record if I can say I'm a
  612. 18:32world record holder. like the title
  613. 18:34means more than the actual level because
  614. 18:37you know that it's only a niche group of
  615. 18:40people that are familiar with enough
  616. 18:42with the nuances to see what level
  617. 18:44you're actually at.
  618. 18:46>> My uh my my power peak accomplishment
  619. 18:48was my first my first meet
  620. 18:50>> cuz I won AA World Championship. That's
  621. 18:52my first competition.
  622. 18:53>> You should put that in your bio.
  623. 18:54>> Yeah. [laughter]
  624. 18:56>> And you put the year 2015 AAOU youth one
  625. 19:00world champion. Actually, you should put
  626. 19:01that in your bio. That's pretty funny.
  627. 19:03The stronger you get, the funnier that
  628. 19:04gets. That's good. That sounds really
  629. 19:06good. It is really weird to see people
  630. 19:08who like get stuck at a local level just
  631. 19:10because like the idea of being like the
  632. 19:12coolest guy at the local meet is like
  633. 19:14that's good enough for me. Uh versus the
  634. 19:16people who are like [ __ ] it, I'm going
  635. 19:17to go lose at Nats. That like way cooler
  636. 19:19decision in my mind, but also like I
  637. 19:20mean both are valid like
  638. 19:21>> Yeah.
  639. 19:22>> Yeah. The uh the next thing I had in my
  640. 19:24notes here was I was like exercises that
  641. 19:27like I view as like pretty foundational
  642. 19:29to complement the pretty base strength
  643. 19:32training, right? Like you and I have
  644. 19:33talked endlessly about how RDL's like
  645. 19:36just learn to do a good flatback RDL
  646. 19:38where you go like all the way down all
  647. 19:40the way back up with back flat uh is
  648. 19:42like just a such a foundational tool for
  649. 19:44long-term develop deadlift development
  650. 19:46and like learning a good high bar squat
  651. 19:48is like a very good foundational tool. I
  652. 19:51genuinely feel like ab wheel goes in
  653. 19:53that category where if you can learn
  654. 19:56like a good tech where you're not
  655. 19:57arching to get out of the bottom.
  656. 19:59Learning a good technique ab wheel will
  657. 20:01just kind of cover your bases from now
  658. 20:04till the end of time and just learning
  659. 20:05that like to get really good at it and
  660. 20:07like maybe you get really strong and you
  661. 20:09need to add weight, maybe you need to
  662. 20:10add tempos and pauses and maybe you need
  663. 20:11to do it in more of a cluster fashion to
  664. 20:13get to hard reps faster because you
  665. 20:15could do a bunch of reps. But it's just
  666. 20:16like that tool is a tool that never
  667. 20:18expires. I uh go in phases of like
  668. 20:22motions that I'm like super bought in
  669. 20:24on, right? Like we had my little
  670. 20:25dumbbell row arc where I was like, "This
  671. 20:27is the best motion in the world."
  672. 20:28>> Every one of Max's clients was doing
  673. 20:29>> every single one of the the rat pack was
  674. 20:31getting dumbbell rows that month. That
  675. 20:32was [ __ ] uh I am like I always like
  676. 20:35god I think a wheel is maybe the best
  677. 20:37appotion for like the number of times
  678. 20:39I've come like you were saying like
  679. 20:41things come in waves, right? Like and
  680. 20:42the same thing is like true in broader
  681. 20:44lifting. Um, the more times something
  682. 20:47comes back as a wave, the more you
  683. 20:49should probably take a hard look at it.
  684. 20:51>> Yeah. Like planks weighted are really
  685. 20:53like probably the best drill.
  686. 20:55>> Yep.
  687. 20:55>> I think ab wheel is the best thing to
  688. 20:57actually strengthen like the what like
  689. 20:58you need to like counter the force of
  690. 21:01your low back [ __ ] trying to pull an
  691. 21:02extension.
  692. 21:03>> Mhm. Yeah. Like because I think I think
  693. 21:04planks are great especially if you're
  694. 21:06like in a strongman gym with sandbags
  695. 21:07and you got someone strong to put a big
  696. 21:08sandbag like there's overload potential
  697. 21:10there
  698. 21:10>> or if you're not strong enough to do an
  699. 21:11ab wheel yet.
  700. 21:12>> Yes. That is the like a hollow hold or a
  701. 21:15plank or a dead bug. It's like isometric
  702. 21:18ab work is a something you could do to
  703. 21:20build towards ab wheel. Assisted ab
  704. 21:22wheels where you put like a band around
  705. 21:23your waist and like those are the
  706. 21:24regression.
  707. 21:26>> But then abhe variations just kind of
  708. 21:29expand indefinitely. You never get so
  709. 21:31strong that there is no more room on the
  710. 21:32RDL. You can outgrow a lot of machines
  711. 21:35that they're they're machines that
  712. 21:37complement your strength training really
  713. 21:38well.
  714. 21:39>> Yeah. If you put two plates on a
  715. 21:41standing ab wheel, it's like
  716. 21:43>> you're good. You've completed abs.
  717. 21:45[laughter]
  718. 21:45>> You have enough ab strength to do any
  719. 21:47accomplishment in the world.
  720. 21:49>> Any lift that you could set your mind
  721. 21:51to, you're good. You just maintain abs
  722. 21:53at this point, right? But like, you
  723. 21:54know, at some point like, okay, I don't
  724. 21:55want to [ __ ] put more than like two
  725. 21:56plates on a gym pin on a stack. I'm not
  726. 21:59like, what are we doing at that point,
  727. 22:00right? So, like things that have
  728. 22:02infinite scaling, I always like have a
  729. 22:03lot of appeal. And like the more times I
  730. 22:05come back to something, the more I'm
  731. 22:07like, "All right, I can kind of put the
  732. 22:09label on this. This is central at least
  733. 22:10to my methodology. It fits in with my
  734. 22:13system clearly well. I should probably
  735. 22:16show for it a little bit extra if
  736. 22:17anything." And like ab Wheel is like in
  737. 22:20that like hall of fame with the good
  738. 22:22good technique RDL's.
  739. 22:25>> Yeah, I like you said, I just keep
  740. 22:27coming back to it. Like I've probably
  741. 22:28had at least two dozen phases of being
  742. 22:29abs. And I've never done that for any
  743. 22:31other ab motion.
  744. 22:32>> Leg raises are a big one for me, too. I
  745. 22:34always come back to those
  746. 22:36>> dumbbell bench too.
  747. 22:38>> Yes.
  748. 22:38>> Mhm.
  749. 22:38>> I always when whenever I have
  750. 22:40>> I'm so mad I can't do [ __ ] dumbbell
  751. 22:41bench.
  752. 22:42>> We don't have heavy enough dumbbells for
  753. 22:43me and Max to run those right now. So,
  754. 22:45we're kind of like doing various things
  755. 22:47to try to make up for it.
  756. 22:50>> Discussion is do we drive like an hour
  757. 22:51over to a town over that has heavy
  758. 22:52enough dumbbells to do a session in a
  759. 22:54week? Yeah, we're debating driving over
  760. 22:55to but Montana to get our hands on some
  761. 22:57heavier dumbbells because I legitimately
  762. 22:59think that like if you rotate the
  763. 23:00dumbbells and you row them in so you're
  764. 23:02doing an extended range press, a bigger
  765. 23:04range of motion than your regular press.
  766. 23:06I find it's a it's amazing because it's
  767. 23:08extended range work and also um
  768. 23:13this is a random point. Maybe you guys
  769. 23:14will think it's interesting. People will
  770. 23:16always discredit like they're like oh
  771. 23:17you know the proof that instability work
  772. 23:19doesn't work right? uh they say
  773. 23:21instability work is silly because you're
  774. 23:24just going to limit your force output.
  775. 23:25It it's just nonsense. It's the same
  776. 23:27reason you wouldn't stand on a Bosu
  777. 23:29ball. And it's like, well, yeah, if we
  778. 23:31take any good training variable to the
  779. 23:33highest it can go, it becomes shitty
  780. 23:34training.
  781. 23:35>> If I say lifting heavy is good. You're
  782. 23:37like, if you put so much weight on there
  783. 23:38you can't move it. It's actually bad
  784. 23:40training. Great point, bro. Like, okay,
  785. 23:42you proved it. Going heavy is bad,
  786. 23:44right? Um,
  787. 23:46I find that going just one slight
  788. 23:49deviation less stable, right? So, we
  789. 23:51just disconnect our hands. So, we add
  790. 23:52one more plane of movement for the
  791. 23:54dumbbells. It makes my negatives feel
  792. 23:57way more locked in on my bench press.
  793. 23:58Like my ability to control the bar path
  794. 24:00and find the right bar path every time.
  795. 24:02That seems to be a training effect
  796. 24:04independent of what the dumbbells do for
  797. 24:06my pecs. Um, so it's like, sure, if you
  798. 24:09take anything and you take it too far,
  799. 24:11it's useless, right? Like people used to
  800. 24:13say, well, if you just do like omega
  801. 24:15bands and chains to where it's like
  802. 24:16weightless at the bottom, yes, it's
  803. 24:18going to give you horrible carryover. It
  804. 24:20becomes a different lift. But if we used
  805. 24:22a modest amount of accommodating
  806. 24:24resistance, it's a decent variation to
  807. 24:26progress, right? Like the same thing is
  808. 24:28true of a lot of things. And like one
  809. 24:29deviation less stable work in dumbbells,
  810. 24:32[ __ ] so helpful for me. And it checks
  811. 24:35that box of extended range pressing,
  812. 24:36which I think is good for keeping your
  813. 24:38pecs healthy.
  814. 24:38>> Well, we've talked about for like
  815. 24:40especially like beginners, right?
  816. 24:41Building up the pec is like you're just
  817. 24:43trying to speedrun that. Yeah, that's
  818. 24:44usually the limiting factor of an early
  819. 24:45bench. Speaking of [ __ ] waves, right?
  820. 24:48Oh my god. The thing I've learned is
  821. 24:50like just by coaching a rat pack, anyone
  822. 24:52who is benching 300 lb should just be
  823. 24:54constantly spamming dumbbell bench.
  824. 24:56>> Yeah. 300. Are you using 300 lb as an
  825. 24:59example of a weak bench presser?
  826. 25:00>> No, that's just the average strength of
  827. 25:02my lifters.
  828. 25:03>> Okay. I was going to say what what a
  829. 25:04[ __ ] Am I right, guys? [laughter]
  830. 25:06>> Says Sam, who benched 300 in like two
  831. 25:09months of bench pressing. That shook
  832. 25:11took me 4 years.
  833. 25:12>> Yeah. And I realized that I'm naturally
  834. 25:14gifted at it. So I wouldn't call someone
  835. 25:15weak for doing it. Like you
  836. 25:16>> I earned it cuz it took me four [ __ ]
  837. 25:18years to batch 300.
  838. 25:20>> He was a pre-teen.
  839. 25:21>> I was a teen.
  840. 25:22>> He was a full teen.
  841. 25:23>> You started as a pre-teen.
  842. 25:25>> I started early.
  843. 25:26>> You started as a pre back. I HAD TO
  844. 25:28[ __ ] PULL MYSELF UP. I YOU WERE A
  845. 25:30CHILD and a morbidly obese one trying
  846. 25:33[laughter] to bench 300. Um but uh my my
  847. 25:36conclusion was I was like, "Man double
  848. 25:38veg is good." And so I kept giving
  849. 25:39people more dumbbell bench and I was
  850. 25:40like this shit's just continuing to be
  851. 25:42like it's just like an endless [ __ ]
  852. 25:44uh bench loop. Just do more dumbbell
  853. 25:46bench.
  854. 25:48>> So [ __ ]
  855. 25:48>> You have to do it right though.
  856. 25:50>> Yeah. If if you're not pulling your
  857. 25:51chest up and if you're if you're if
  858. 25:53you're twisting them in to like to cheat
  859. 25:54the ROM, it just feel like
  860. 25:56>> the ego lifting dumbbells is one of the
  861. 25:58worst ego like a lot of things. This
  862. 26:00makes Kirsten.
  863. 26:01>> You can ego lift a lot of things and it
  864. 26:02would still be really productive. Ego
  865. 26:04lifting your dumbbell bench is I like
  866. 26:07sometimes fun Instagram video. You
  867. 26:09better not be [ __ ] doing that in your
  868. 26:11training. Especially if your bench is
  869. 26:13not going up.
  870. 26:14>> Yeah, that's something that you're like
  871. 26:15big on is
  872. 26:16>> it's one of my biggest pet peeves cuz I
  873. 26:18hate seeing people have their bench
  874. 26:20stall out and they're working really
  875. 26:22hard and the only thing they're missing
  876. 26:25for that would make their bench start
  877. 26:26going up again is literally doing the
  878. 26:28last inch of range of motion. And
  879. 26:30sometimes for some people it's the last
  880. 26:32three inches of range of motion. They
  881. 26:33get so attached to like this is when I
  882. 26:35dumb that people like I I'm a 60s guy.
  883. 26:37And it's like if you stopped being a 60s
  884. 26:40guy, you would suddenly become a 300s
  885. 26:41guy.
  886. 26:42>> Yeah. Yeah. Like I'm sure part of this
  887. 26:43is just the perspective of like now I'm
  888. 26:46the strongest bench presser in any gym I
  889. 26:48would go to around here, right? So I
  890. 26:49don't really care. But like who cares so
  891. 26:51much your dumbbell benching if your main
  892. 26:53bench is going up? Like that's the one
  893. 26:54we brag about. So, it's like if if 50s
  894. 26:56is going to do you more good with this
  895. 26:59better tech and then you get to be like
  896. 27:02I bench 275 that sounds like it's a
  897. 27:05great tradeoff like Kirst I consider
  898. 27:07Kirst like I think Kirsten's bench
  899. 27:08coaching is immaculate right because
  900. 27:10you're a very good bench presser you've
  901. 27:11done a lot of it you benched 200 lb
  902. 27:13natty soon to be 225 going it's going
  903. 27:16really well right it's going insanely
  904. 27:18well actually for only benching twice a
  905. 27:20week
  906. 27:20>> but I think Kirsten both like took the
  907. 27:22very technical like side of skating and
  908. 27:26has like a very good understanding of
  909. 27:27like what someone needs to do to get
  910. 27:28better at bench press. And she's like,
  911. 27:30"You just need to do good dumbbell
  912. 27:32bench." And some people just it's a
  913. 27:34coordination problem and some people
  914. 27:35just will not [ __ ] do it.
  915. 27:37>> I was really like novelty maxing and be
  916. 27:39like, "We should get all these different
  917. 27:40angles in." And I'm like, "No, double
  918. 27:42bench is just the best. Maybe it is just
  919. 27:43the best bench accessory for like if
  920. 27:45you're like a like intermediate,
  921. 27:47beginner, low level, advance, do [ __ ]
  922. 27:49done."
  923. 27:50>> And you might have to take the weight
  924. 27:51way lower than you would even think
  925. 27:52would be productive.
  926. 27:53>> Yeah. Like you might have to cut that
  927. 27:55[ __ ] Like you might have to do like 30%
  928. 27:57of what you're doing if you're skipping
  929. 27:58a lot of range at the bottom.
  930. 28:00>> I uh I I feel like I've lost it now
  931. 28:03because obviously like I would say like
  932. 28:04I'm in a lowlevel elite lifter, right?
  933. 28:07Like I'm very good. I feel like I've
  934. 28:08been doing this for long enough that I'm
  935. 28:09like very like confident and just like I
  936. 28:11know like I my my place in the gym has
  937. 28:15been earned. Um I did not feel that way
  938. 28:17when I was earlier to listen. Speaking
  939. 28:18of Max elitist [ __ ] uh opinions, Max
  940. 28:21is always like, "They need to give me
  941. 28:23that [ __ ] rack, right?" [laughter]
  942. 28:25>> Honestly though, they do need to give
  943. 28:27him that [ __ ] rack.
  944. 28:28>> If there's one good bench and I'm doing
  945. 28:30500 TODAY [laughter] AND YOU'RE DOING
  946. 28:31ONE, YOU SHOULD give me that rack. Call
  947. 28:33me an [ __ ] I don't know.
  948. 28:35>> You're hitting the old Kurt Carowski. I
  949. 28:37throw my bag at home. FIVE MINUTES. I
  950. 28:40>> YOU KNOW WHAT I'M SAYING? [laughter]
  951. 28:42>> NEXT WEEK'S INTRO has that clip in it.
  952. 28:44>> I'll put I'll put it in this next week
  953. 28:46is my intro. I'll put it like max at the
  954. 28:48bottom of the screen.
  955. 28:51>> It's about percentages, right? If it's
  956. 28:53your max, okay, I respect it.
  957. 28:55>> This guy's getting caught in 4K.
  958. 28:57[laughter]
  959. 28:57>> Give me the [ __ ] rack, you loser.
  960. 29:03>> Um, I was going to say I did not used to
  961. 29:06feel that way, right? Like when like I
  962. 29:07always I was very like insecure like I
  963. 29:09have to earn my place in the gym like
  964. 29:10like and whenever I was like at a new
  965. 29:12milestone I like constantly wanted to
  966. 29:15show off that like well no I'm this
  967. 29:16level of strength.
  968. 29:17>> Yes. You worked hard to get like I see
  969. 29:19that right like I want to show everyone
  970. 29:21that I'm a two-play adventure. I work my
  971. 29:23ass off to be in this like this uh
  972. 29:25level. So every session I need to show
  973. 29:27everybody that I am this level. And the
  974. 29:29idea of doing like embarrassing
  975. 29:30accessories was like admitting that I
  976. 29:32was like weak but like I could do way
  977. 29:33more or like not doing an insanely heavy
  978. 29:35leg press. It's like well I mean like
  979. 29:37there's an [ __ ] who's doing a
  980. 29:38thousand, right? Like if I do 600 it's
  981. 29:40going to look like he's stronger than
  982. 29:42me, right? And it's like you also could
  983. 29:43do a thousand.
  984. 29:45>> So and like and I get it cuz I did the
  985. 29:47exact same thing that I always wanted to
  986. 29:48do. Like I wanted to like display the
  987. 29:50fact that I was like but I'm better than
  988. 29:52you. [laughter]
  989. 29:53I think that there COULD BE LIKE I think
  990. 29:55I do think you know it's it's like the
  991. 29:59more appeal to the the people watching
  992. 30:01thing to say is like always just like
  993. 30:03we're all on the we're all just working
  994. 30:05on our own thing, right? And it's like
  995. 30:07that doesn't necess that mentality
  996. 30:08doesn't always mesh with competitive
  997. 30:10athletics and that's fine. Um but I
  998. 30:12always think I always thought that like
  999. 30:13back then that that mindset being more
  1000. 30:15pervasive when we were young. It
  1001. 30:17obviously it's got a lot of downsides to
  1002. 30:19like when you and I didn't feel like we
  1003. 30:21deserved the rack if there was someone
  1004. 30:22stronger than us who needed the rack,
  1005. 30:24right? Or we didn't like hadn't earned
  1006. 30:26our place in the gym.
  1007. 30:27>> I'm 60% joking about that by the way.
  1008. 30:30>> 50
  1009. 30:31He's like 50/50.
  1010. 30:33>> That doesn't
  1011. 30:34>> I have to I have to be I have to be at
  1012. 30:36750 plus that session for me to really
  1013. 30:38be like take your bar. I'm going to
  1014. 30:39throw it over the [laughter] rack. I'm
  1015. 30:40taking that [ __ ] I'm going to push you
  1016. 30:42over.
  1017. 30:43>> Ali, you are a nice guy. I am not a man
  1018. 30:45you can talk to [laughter] this. Uh but
  1019. 30:48like I don't know I I feel like there
  1020. 30:49were positives, right? Like I'm very
  1021. 30:52empathetic because uh I am empathetic
  1022. 30:55that it was like significantly worse for
  1023. 30:57women, but like dudes I was like well I
  1024. 30:59am a little twink. I'm I need to [ __ ]
  1025. 31:03work my ass off to be not little skinny
  1026. 31:06twink guy.
  1027. 31:06>> Can I have the rack please? [laughter]
  1028. 31:09>> Right. But like I I don't know. I I felt
  1029. 31:11like in some ways this is like this
  1030. 31:13comes off as like [ __ ] every guy
  1031. 31:15who's like retiring who's starting a
  1032. 31:17podcast back in my era. [ __ ] I hate
  1033. 31:19that [ __ ] I'm I hope it doesn't sound
  1034. 31:21like that. A podcast of 20-year-olds
  1035. 31:23talks about back in our era [laughter]
  1036. 31:24what to be like. But yeah, I just think
  1037. 31:28like 10 years ago that like it was just
  1038. 31:30a little bit more of a pervasive
  1039. 31:31culture. There were a bunch of downsides
  1040. 31:34to like people were just kind of
  1041. 31:35[ __ ] Uh people thought if they
  1042. 31:37were strong you could just be an [ __ ]
  1043. 31:39when no one cares about how strong I
  1044. 31:41used to have aura is so funny.
  1045. 31:42>> Oh being strong and just like [ __ ]
  1046. 31:45dick.
  1047. 31:46>> Who uh I don't know if I should say his
  1048. 31:48name. Uh the guy who had
  1049. 31:49>> don't I don't know who this is but just
  1050. 31:50HOW ABOUT WE DON'T MITCH Hooper did
  1051. 31:53this. [laughter]
  1052. 31:55>> Stop. Stop.
  1053. 31:57>> Every time Every time you do this if we
  1054. 31:59do this too often our fans start getting
  1055. 32:01really negative really quickly. This is
  1056. 32:03a positivity podcast. Uh video guy doing
  1057. 32:05a hack squats and he like yells at this
  1058. 32:06dude like get the [ __ ] out of the way.
  1059. 32:08[laughter]
  1060. 32:09Um
  1061. 32:10>> oh guy.
  1062. 32:10>> Yeah, it was guy. Uh and I remember he
  1063. 32:12was like baffled but I be like damn,
  1064. 32:13bro. Why is everyone being so so like
  1065. 32:15they don't like this? And I remember you
  1066. 32:17were like dude it to makes 100% sense
  1067. 32:19why he's so shocked cuz that kind of was
  1068. 32:21like
  1069. 32:21>> that was his persona. Like his whole
  1070. 32:23career he was patted on the back for
  1071. 32:24being Mr. Hardcore Intensity. Like that
  1072. 32:27guy being that guy was something that
  1073. 32:28got him praise.
  1074. 32:29>> Yeah. Like 2016 was like oh I'm showing
  1075. 32:31him the ropes of the gym. Like I was
  1076. 32:33giving him [ __ ] but also like like
  1077. 32:34that's what the that's what the alpha
  1078. 32:36the gym does. He puts him in [laughter]
  1079. 32:37his place. Like
  1080. 32:38>> Yeah. And like he was like shocked that
  1081. 32:40suddenly that's not considered cool.
  1082. 32:42>> Yeah.
  1083. 32:42>> Like it really like you could tell it
  1084. 32:43was like a [ __ ] like what the world
  1085. 32:45has changed kind of thing. But I don't
  1086. 32:47know. I always thought there was like
  1087. 32:48some like
  1088. 32:49>> I'm going to try to learn. Obviously we
  1089. 32:51met guys who were better lifters than us
  1090. 32:53who were wrong about a bunch of things,
  1091. 32:55but like I would always try to learn
  1092. 32:56from them. And sometimes that was
  1093. 32:58mistaken, but I would always try because
  1094. 33:00I'm like, you are better than me at
  1095. 33:01this. Like, you are I was very open to
  1096. 33:04the idea that like I wasn't just like,
  1097. 33:05well, I'm natty, so I'm not going to
  1098. 33:07listen to this guy. I was like, well,
  1099. 33:08he's clearly better at lifting weights
  1100. 33:09than me past that. And so I'd always
  1101. 33:11listen and like sometimes it was
  1102. 33:12mistaken, but I always felt like there
  1103. 33:13was some benefit to that.
  1104. 33:17>> Yeah. I like something y pendulum,
  1105. 33:19right? And like we're talking about like
  1106. 33:21we're we're not in the might makes right
  1107. 33:22era. the whole just like I I own Bench
  1108. 33:24you so you don't have to listen to me
  1109. 33:25and be like [ __ ] you you idiot. Did I
  1110. 33:27tell the story about how uh uh Nathan
  1111. 33:30Payton, the guy who's like the
  1112. 33:32nutritionist for a bunch of the World's
  1113. 33:33Guys, was like on like the only
  1114. 33:34strongman forum at the time, telling
  1115. 33:36people that like he was doing Travis
  1116. 33:38Ormmy's nutrition. And he was like,
  1117. 33:39"Yeah, guys, you should eat some just
  1118. 33:41like chicken and rice and broccoli
  1119. 33:42meals. It's like a good meal."
  1120. 33:43Bodybuilders put on a lot of muscle by
  1121. 33:45like trying to keep their digestion
  1122. 33:46good, right? And everybody on the forum
  1123. 33:48was like, "You little dumb [ __ ] You
  1124. 33:51don't know what you're talking about.
  1125. 33:52That doesn't even make any sense. You
  1126. 33:53should eat pizza, you dumb fuck." And
  1127. 33:55then one day Derek Poundstone hopped on
  1128. 33:57the forum and was like, "Oh, I eat
  1129. 33:59chicken and rice all the time." Like I
  1130. 34:00eat like a bodybuilder. And then
  1131. 34:01suddenly everybody was like, "Okay, well
  1132. 34:03maybe maybe we should do this."
  1133. 34:04>> Well, to be a big guy, you need to eat
  1134. 34:06big guy food to be big. [laughter]
  1135. 34:09>> That story was like cracking the other
  1136. 34:11like that is like the epitome of the
  1137. 34:12forum days is just like some guy who's
  1138. 34:14right. He's a smart guy who's like just
  1139. 34:16been observing and he's like, "I think
  1140. 34:17this is good." And everybody's like,
  1141. 34:18"Shut the [ __ ] up, you little bitch."
  1142. 34:21And then big guy says this same thing.
  1143. 34:22Like this guy's a smart guy. This is
  1144. 34:24really insightful actually. You know,
  1145. 34:26that's actually more hardcore is to like
  1146. 34:27have a dialed diet and still eat that
  1147. 34:28quantity.
  1148. 34:29>> Now that you think about it, it is
  1149. 34:30actually more hardcore than eating
  1150. 34:31pizza.
  1151. 34:32>> Makes sense to have better
  1152. 34:32micronutrients going into [laughter]
  1153. 34:35that is cracking me up. And then the
  1154. 34:37last one I have in my notes is man boys.
  1155. 34:39Uh also was that thing that me crashing
  1156. 34:41out about that old multiply bench guy.
  1157. 34:43That's fine to leave in, right?
  1158. 34:45>> Yeah, probably.
  1159. 34:45>> Yeah.
  1160. 34:46>> I don't I just got so Dennis is a Dennis
  1161. 34:48is my friend and is a nice guy and like
  1162. 34:50it's just like oh a [ __ ] fantastic
  1163. 34:53bench presser talking someone talking
  1164. 34:55down to him about bench press [ __ ]
  1165. 34:58crazy w really wound me up but uh we got
  1166. 35:00to figure out like vlog format videos
  1167. 35:02boys we've done some I thought they were
  1168. 35:04decent they didn't do big views but we
  1169. 35:06got to figure it out so that way uh we
  1170. 35:08could be the next trend twins and be
  1171. 35:09extremely rich
  1172. 35:10>> I was thinking Fourth of July we go hit
  1173. 35:12golf balls shoot guns and do deadlifts
  1174. 35:14>> that's smart we just really directly
  1175. 35:16Copy the trend twins.
  1176. 35:17>> They should sponsor us.
  1177. 35:19>> Feral subs.
  1178. 35:20>> Listen, we might be fat and ugly, but we
  1179. 35:22are stronger.
  1180. 35:23>> Feral subs, please.
  1181. 35:24>> The strong the strongest brothers.
  1182. 35:26>> We're We're going to do a We're don't
  1183. 35:28order the boys to harass them. We get a
  1184. 35:30sponsorship. [laughter]
  1185. 35:32>> Sick the [ __ ] dogs on them.
  1186. 35:33>> Yo, large lads harassment until we get a
  1187. 35:36contract.
  1188. 35:38>> I'm just saying.
  1189. 35:39>> Yeah, it's harder now that we all train
  1190. 35:40together for me to film you guys vlog
  1191. 35:43style.
  1192. 35:44We went to it and it was immediately
  1193. 35:46stressful.
  1194. 35:46>> It was a very difficult session for me
  1195. 35:48even though I think it was a it was a
  1196. 35:49delo session for me and I still was like
  1197. 35:51what's going on?
  1198. 35:53>> Not exactly the uh the multitasking CEO
  1199. 35:55>> but we'll figure it out.
  1200. 35:57>> All right. So here I've got a new
  1201. 35:58segment to introduce.
  1202. 36:00>> It's awesome.
  1203. 36:00>> It's the it's the my wonderful
  1204. 36:03girlfriend Kirsten talks segment.
  1205. 36:05>> Kirsten, five minutes on the clock. No
  1206. 36:07one else is going to talk.
  1207. 36:08>> Chris, do you got anything you've been
  1208. 36:09thinking about?
  1209. 36:10>> Well, that dumbbell bench thing I was
  1210. 36:11thinking about, but I got to talk about
  1211. 36:12it earlier. It segued really nicely. So,
  1212. 36:14I didn't just have to be negative and be
  1213. 36:15like, "Please guys, please do your
  1214. 36:18dumbbell bench to depth for the love
  1215. 36:19[laughter] of God."
  1216. 36:21>> Yeah, cuz I Well, for a while I was
  1217. 36:22saying like anything that lets you get
  1218. 36:24like a big stretch on your pecs, like a
  1219. 36:25greater range of motion than your
  1220. 36:26regular bench, pause, drive out. Like I
  1221. 36:30was kind of pitching that they were like
  1222. 36:31very interchangeable, but man, every
  1223. 36:33time I re- rotate dumbbells into that
  1224. 36:34spot, deep dips work pretty well.
  1225. 36:37>> Or if you're below a certain strength
  1226. 36:38level, like push-ups will work really
  1227. 36:39well. Uh the honestly deficit push-ups.
  1228. 36:43>> A lot of things work really well. I
  1229. 36:44think deficit push-ups are great if
  1230. 36:45you're a lower level strength guy. Uh
  1231. 36:47rat pack all have deficit push-ups.
  1232. 36:48Everyone's getting deficit push-ups,
  1233. 36:50too.
  1234. 36:50>> Yeah, deficit push-ups.
  1235. 36:50>> Especially if you're a home gym guy,
  1236. 36:52you're getting [ __ ] deficit push-ups.
  1237. 36:53>> Deficit push-ups and deep dips. If you
  1238. 36:55don't have dumbbells, those work really
  1239. 36:56well. But like dumb every time I come
  1240. 36:58back, like it's the same thing. Every
  1241. 36:59time I come back to dumbbells, I'm like,
  1242. 37:01"Oh, these are not exactly equal for
  1243. 37:03what they do for my bench press." And I
  1244. 37:05see it enough with my clients as well.
  1245. 37:07>> I think deep dips are just as good.
  1246. 37:08They're just harder. They're also a
  1247. 37:10little different. I think the deep dips
  1248. 37:12are good for reinforcing not flattening
  1249. 37:15out your arch as you press. Like if
  1250. 37:16you're someone who presses into your
  1251. 37:17shoulders and you're like straining at
  1252. 37:19lockout and it doesn't feel like your
  1253. 37:20triceps are what straining, it's your
  1254. 37:21shoulders. You've kind of punched
  1255. 37:23yourself out of your arch too much. And
  1256. 37:25I think deep dips keep that get that
  1257. 37:27deep stretch uh pec strength and also
  1258. 37:29reinforce keeping the press.
  1259. 37:30>> This didn't work at all for me.
  1260. 37:31[laughter]
  1261. 37:33>> It did help
  1262. 37:35>> working the dips.
  1263. 37:36>> I still flat out just as much.
  1264. 37:37>> Not as bad. Okay, cool.
  1265. 37:39>> You press into your shoulders.
  1266. 37:40>> Trick him into complimenting. [laughter]
  1267. 37:41You press into your shoulders, idiot.
  1268. 37:44>> Go ahead and talk. OH, YEAH. YEAH. YEAH.
  1269. 37:47YEAH. YEAH.
  1270. 37:48>> WE'VE been talking uh a lot about the
  1271. 37:50nuances of this can. If this is boring,
  1272. 37:52we can skip it. Of where your wrist goes
  1273. 37:54when you're benching because we've
  1274. 37:55talked about how it's a valid strategy
  1275. 37:57for some people who let their wrist come
  1276. 37:59back as a way to reduce the range of
  1277. 38:00motion.
  1278. 38:01>> Well, so everybody has the wrist back at
  1279. 38:03the end of the day.
  1280. 38:03>> Coming back as you come down.
  1281. 38:05>> Yeah. Some people have a dyn Have you
  1282. 38:06seen more people have like a dynamic
  1283. 38:08wristband now, Max?
  1284. 38:10>> I don't like it at all.
  1285. 38:12>> Well, cuz that's [laughter] something.
  1286. 38:13>> It clearly works. It clearly I'm not
  1287. 38:14disagreeing that it clearly works. God
  1288. 38:16damn it. I don't like it at all.
  1289. 38:17>> Yeah. I don't think I'll ever tell a
  1290. 38:18client to do that and I might have them
  1291. 38:20tell me. That's a very advanced
  1292. 38:22technique that like if someone's telling
  1293. 38:24me that's what they're doing, I'm going
  1294. 38:25to be like, "No, it's not. Your wrists
  1295. 38:27are clearly just [ __ ] buckling."
  1296. 38:29>> Yeah. So, full clarity, your everybody's
  1297. 38:31wrist is back, but some people put it
  1298. 38:32really low in their palm so it's right
  1299. 38:34above the joint. But some people put the
  1300. 38:36wrist back that same way, but put it
  1301. 38:37higher in the hand.
  1302. 38:38>> That's what I'm doing.
  1303. 38:40>> Yeah, it looks like [ __ ] when you do it.
  1304. 38:42[laughter]
  1305. 38:44>> I thought that was interesting because I
  1306. 38:45never focused on that when I was
  1307. 38:47benching until you guys started talking
  1308. 38:49about it being a cue for you to not let
  1309. 38:51it come back as you come down. And then
  1310. 38:53I started queuing that in my bench and
  1311. 38:54that's been helpful. Obviously, that's a
  1312. 38:55super niche queue, but I've been really
  1313. 38:57That's like also just kind of
  1314. 38:59reinforcing your wrist position stuff.
  1315. 39:00It's been good.
  1316. 39:01>> Kirsten's bench is just a better version
  1317. 39:03of mine.
  1318. 39:05Yeah,
  1319. 39:05>> because like I I like to think I like to
  1320. 39:08think I'm maybe a little bit technically
  1321. 39:10further down the line than Kirsten, but
  1322. 39:12I've from bulking up to [ __ ] 270,
  1323. 39:15I've lost so many like little areas of
  1324. 39:17mobility.
  1325. 39:17>> Your T-spine just does not [ __ ] want
  1326. 39:19to open.
  1327. 39:20>> My T-spine is not [ __ ] bending right
  1328. 39:22now. I think the I think the road to 880
  1329. 39:24deadlift, like all of the midback work I
  1330. 39:26was doing that made me like really good
  1331. 39:27at rounding my upper back has made it
  1332. 39:29really hard to get really nice
  1333. 39:31extension. like I'm not getting that
  1334. 39:34upper thoracic extension that's like the
  1335. 39:36most important part of arching for a
  1336. 39:38bench press. Uh and it just will not I'm
  1337. 39:40like [ __ ] cranking it in every
  1338. 39:42stretch and it won't even start to bend.
  1339. 39:44Like god [ __ ] damn. I really
  1340. 39:45reinforce that. So I watch Kirsten's
  1341. 39:47bench and I'm like it's everything that
  1342. 39:49I taught her but then done without the
  1343. 39:51mobility restrictions of being an
  1344. 39:53[laughter] 88260 man. Yeah. Because I I
  1345. 39:56feel like your bench looks like you're
  1346. 39:58bleeding force less than Kurtson's. Like
  1347. 39:59it's just like by proxy of doing 15
  1348. 40:01years of bench pressing or whatever,
  1349. 40:02right? Like you've just done so much
  1350. 40:04that it looks like it looks like every
  1351. 40:05ounce of effort is going into the bar,
  1352. 40:07right? Like a very like looks so [ __ ]
  1353. 40:09fluid and like it looks like
  1354. 40:10everything's transferring into the bar.
  1355. 40:11>> Yeah, cuz Kirsten's looks like mine used
  1356. 40:13to where she very visibly bleeds forced
  1357. 40:15at the wrist, but I don't bleed force at
  1358. 40:17the wrist anymore. Ever.
  1359. 40:19>> Um
  1360. 40:20>> and like sometimes I think Kurt's leg
  1361. 40:21drive is like maybe like not as
  1362. 40:22>> well. I think that's but it's just I
  1363. 40:24think the only difference right is like
  1364. 40:25I think Kirstson's bench is really
  1365. 40:26really like I think it's as good as mine
  1366. 40:28technically to be honest as much as I
  1367. 40:29hate to admit it.
  1368. 40:29>> I was going to say if you take a
  1369. 40:30screenshot of any position of Curts it's
  1370. 40:32so fundamentally sound.
  1371. 40:33>> Yeah the the the thoracic arch is higher
  1372. 40:36in quality. Uh, I've got a hot day.
  1373. 40:39[laughter]
  1374. 40:40The uh the thoracic arch is higher in
  1375. 40:42quality and also I she lacks enough pec
  1376. 40:46development to be really confident off
  1377. 40:48the chest because Kirsten's bench is
  1378. 40:50actually slightly she can do a really
  1379. 40:51nice soft touch but her grip is like
  1380. 40:53very moderate width and usually moderate
  1381. 40:54width people are a little bit better
  1382. 40:56with a slight sink so they can transfer
  1383. 40:58their leg drive into the bar but she's
  1384. 41:00so scared to sink it because she's not
  1385. 41:02that like not developed enough in the
  1386. 41:04pecs.
  1387. 41:04>> My pecs are like ever so slightly
  1388. 41:06behind.
  1389. 41:07>> Yep. The pecs are I would say even a
  1390. 41:08little bit more than ever so slightly
  1391. 41:09for your bench to be like to feel the
  1392. 41:11way you'd want it to feel. It's like
  1393. 41:12>> to sneak that one in there. [laughter]
  1394. 41:14>> Bench is the most fun when my pecs are
  1395. 41:16ahead.
  1396. 41:17>> The pecs and the wrists are kind of like
  1397. 41:18the only areas for improvement right
  1398. 41:20now. I I think your bench is immaculate.
  1399. 41:23>> What's been pissing you off?
  1400. 41:24>> Oh, don't been pissing me off.
  1401. 41:27[laughter] Let's see. That's a good
  1402. 41:28question. We might have to come back
  1403. 41:30around to that. I need to brainstorm cuz
  1404. 41:31again the I've just been ruminating
  1405. 41:33about the [ __ ] dumbbell bench thing
  1406. 41:34for like the last three days. So, if you
  1407. 41:36ask me another question, I'm just going
  1408. 41:37to talk about dumbbell bench again.
  1409. 41:38[laughter]
  1410. 41:39>> I've been ruminating.
  1411. 41:40>> What's uh what's what's your topic, big
  1412. 41:43man?
  1413. 41:43>> Uh big guy. We've we [laughter]
  1414. 41:48bro one of the old men at Costco. What
  1415. 41:49the [ __ ] That's what they all call me.
  1416. 41:51>> Big guy.
  1417. 41:51>> Yeah, they all come up and THEY GRAB MY
  1418. 41:53SHOULDERS. [laughter]
  1419. 41:54THIS IS NOT about that. Um I have had
  1420. 41:56that happen before, but that was not
  1421. 41:58this trip.
  1422. 41:59>> Dude, now that you're looking less
  1423. 42:00youthful, you're getting molested
  1424. 42:02significantly less. Dude, I was having
  1425. 42:04people grab me when I was a teenager.
  1426. 42:07>> Max would just like
  1427. 42:09full stop get sexually assaulted at the
  1428. 42:12gym like once a month.
  1429. 42:13>> It's crazy stuff. [laughter]
  1430. 42:15>> It was crazy.
  1431. 42:16>> IT'S THE DOWNSIDES OF THE CUTE FEATURES,
  1432. 42:18you know?
  1433. 42:19>> I It's the It is. It's the cute features
  1434. 42:21that must have been what was attracting
  1435. 42:22them to you cuz like you would just be
  1436. 42:24like You'd come back over from a bench
  1437. 42:26at the Reton YMCA, you'd be like, "Dude,
  1438. 42:28that guy just like fully groped MY
  1439. 42:30TITTIES. [laughter]
  1440. 42:33THAT WAS CRAZY.
  1441. 42:34>> AND I like come up and like grab my
  1442. 42:36shoulders like like hold my neck and I
  1443. 42:38was like [laughter]
  1444. 42:39>> the guy that the guy that like grabbed
  1445. 42:41your like he was inspecting your traps
  1446. 42:43but like just like choked you was crazy.
  1447. 42:45And he would Max would come back over to
  1448. 42:46me. He's like the guy just like [ __ ]
  1449. 42:48grabbed my neck. And I'd be like, I was
  1450. 42:49talking TO YOU GUYS AND HE CAME
  1451. 42:50[laughter] UP AND I was like I was like,
  1452. 42:52"Oh, this is going to be like my dad or
  1453. 42:54someone who judges me.
  1454. 42:57[clears throat]
  1455. 42:58It's not my dad." [laughter]
  1456. 43:01And not exactly my finest big brother
  1457. 43:04moment either. I didn't defend Max at
  1458. 43:05all. I was like, "Damn, that's crazy,
  1459. 43:06bro. Hurry up and do your [ __ ] sad."
  1460. 43:08I think he went like, "Damn, bro.
  1461. 43:09[laughter] You You let him mo you." And
  1462. 43:11I was like, "That was not okay. Bad
  1463. 43:14touch." [laughter]
  1464. 43:18OH, I think he went like, "Do you know
  1465. 43:20that guy?" I WAS LIKE, "NO, WHAT?"
  1466. 43:22[laughter]
  1467. 43:22>> OH, cuz he he like he knew me from
  1468. 43:24Instagram
  1469. 43:26>> and and was like, "Oh, yeah." You know,
  1470. 43:28>> hey, rat packag sneak up behind him and
  1471. 43:31grab. [laughter]
  1472. 43:32>> Clearly, I don't have a good defense
  1473. 43:34system. I'M NOT LIKE TURNING AROUND and
  1474. 43:36getting violent. Go like [laughter] like
  1475. 43:39>> uh Don't do that to me, by the way.
  1476. 43:42>> Also, don't do that to anyone that don't
  1477. 43:44do that to anyone actually. So that's
  1478. 43:46good advice. [laughter] Don't trust me.
  1479. 43:48>> I have a I don't know if it's a good or
  1480. 43:51a bad reflex. Every time someone does
  1481. 43:53that to me, like when my when I was when
  1482. 43:55I was younger, dad did that to me, like
  1483. 43:57hid behind a horn, like popped out and I
  1484. 43:59uh chipped one of his teeth.
  1485. 44:02>> That's what you got to do.
  1486. 44:03>> I just was immediately throwing hands.
  1487. 44:05>> He probably never did it again.
  1488. 44:06>> That instinct has never gone away. And
  1489. 44:08it leads to some bad optics. Like Kirst
  1490. 44:10like peekab-oo. I'LL BE LIKE, "HI,
  1491. 44:13>> I
  1492. 44:14DON'T KNOW WHO THIS IS." [laughter]
  1493. 44:19>> YEAH, but make sure you sneak up behind
  1494. 44:21Max and Tickle. [laughter]
  1495. 44:24>> Don't do it.
  1496. 44:26>> Say we have to [ __ ] edit something.
  1497. 44:28[ __ ] you.
  1498. 44:28>> He won't do anything about it.
  1499. 44:30>> THIS IS CRAZY. LIKE, YO, MY BROTHER'S A
  1500. 44:32[ __ ] FRESH [laughter] TARGET.
  1501. 44:34>> I'm just saying
  1502. 44:35>> he FREEZES IN PRESSURE, BOYS. WHAT WAS
  1503. 44:37your He does He does freeze under
  1504. 44:39pressure. [laughter]
  1505. 44:40That's why my car crash went so well cuz
  1506. 44:42I WAS LIKE, "OH SHIT."
  1507. 44:43>> It gives if you're a freezer to pressure
  1508. 44:45guy, you do have like the the little
  1509. 44:47potential for some aura because you
  1510. 44:49could fully process what's going on
  1511. 44:51while you're frozen. So then you never
  1512. 44:52have like a embarrassing freak out.
  1513. 44:54>> It's true.
  1514. 44:55>> I freeze and then I embarrassing freak
  1515. 44:57out.
  1516. 44:58>> That's That's the worst of both
  1517. 44:59[laughter] the worst of both worlds.
  1518. 45:05>> That is true. You take so long to react
  1519. 45:07to things and then you still [laughter]
  1520. 45:09>> Yeah, you got the worst freeze mechanic
  1521. 45:12I've ever seen.
  1522. 45:12>> Yeah, but then you think that I don't
  1523. 45:14think your jokes are funny, but I'm just
  1524. 45:15thinking about them. [laughter]
  1525. 45:17>> It's that they were so complicated.
  1526. 45:18>> They were so I had to think about
  1527. 45:19>> they were so five dimensional. I was
  1528. 45:21going to say uh one of the things my
  1529. 45:23training that I feel like has been
  1530. 45:24really going very very well uh is we
  1531. 45:27have been having more like concrete
  1532. 45:29targets and Sam Sam uh has been trying
  1533. 45:32to strike a balance of both having like
  1534. 45:34uh things that are a little more
  1535. 45:35autoregulated as I get better. Um but
  1536. 45:38having things I'm like actively excited
  1537. 45:39for more often is been really really
  1538. 45:42productive for me. Like having sets or
  1539. 45:43reps or like even just like having a
  1540. 45:45single that I'm a little bit more scared
  1541. 45:47of than usual has been like doing me so
  1542. 45:49[ __ ] good.
  1543. 45:50>> Yeah. Yeah, like I think on each SL
  1544. 45:51right now I'm kind of working off of the
  1545. 45:53paradigm that like at least once a month
  1546. 45:56where because we're running four-week
  1547. 45:57waves, so it's a month, but like at
  1548. 45:58least once every wave, there should be
  1549. 46:00something that worries you a little bit
  1550. 46:02on each lift.
  1551. 46:02>> And my recovery has been locked in
  1552. 46:04because I've been like, "Fuck, dude.
  1553. 46:05>> You got to get ready for 750 and then
  1554. 46:07750 two days from now again." Like,
  1555. 46:09>> yeah, that's I think that's the danger
  1556. 46:10of like all submax work is it's all
  1557. 46:12submax. So there's nothing to like
  1558. 46:14there's nothing to g-check you for your
  1559. 46:15bedtime. there's nothing that's gonna
  1560. 46:16like big style like g-ch checkck you on
  1561. 46:18your food and you can just keep coasting
  1562. 46:20but you're not going to adapt to that
  1563. 46:22submax work the way you're supposed to
  1564. 46:24because you're being a bum with your
  1565. 46:25accessories and so having something
  1566. 46:26that's a little bit scary every month is
  1567. 46:29lets you do all of your nice submax work
  1568. 46:31but it also scares you into not being a
  1569. 46:33bum because we've been so base building
  1570. 46:36I don't have that many touches at 750 on
  1571. 46:39squat like for someone who I like I you
  1572. 46:40know like a I 820 is my best I think I'm
  1573. 46:43a roughly an 830 squatter right now
  1574. 46:45Right.
  1575. 46:45>> 8:35 probably.
  1576. 46:46>> Um, so it's like like that's a 85 lb
  1577. 46:48difference, right? My number of lifetime
  1578. 46:50reps at 750 is very low. And so I'm
  1579. 46:52still like, oh [ __ ] this is so
  1580. 46:53[laughter] scary. I've only done this a
  1581. 46:55handful of times.
  1582. 46:56>> It's probably seven.
  1583. 46:58>> God,
  1584. 46:58>> seven or eight.
  1585. 46:59>> Yeah, something like something like
  1586. 47:01that.
  1587. 47:01>> I'm pretty good. I'm pretty good with
  1588. 47:02these numbers. I shocked Kirst the other
  1589. 47:04day because she was like trying to
  1590. 47:04figure out how many times she had gone
  1591. 47:06above like 185 and it's like 20 plus,
  1592. 47:10right? So, a lot more like practice
  1593. 47:11above that margin, whereas like like you
  1594. 47:13said, there's a certain margin at which
  1595. 47:14you have very limited practice above on
  1596. 47:16the squat and the deadlift.
  1597. 47:18>> Yeah. Yeah. Like 770 is really the
  1598. 47:19number on deadlift. And I'm like I have
  1599. 47:20like like eight lifetime reps. Um
  1600. 47:23>> and so like I with us touching that uh
  1601. 47:26twice a week for six of the eight weeks
  1602. 47:29of prep, I I'm like, "Holy [ __ ] my
  1603. 47:31recovery NEEDS TO BE LOCKED IN.
  1604. 47:33[laughter] Every week I'm doing
  1605. 47:34something scary." And like obviously I'm
  1606. 47:35not saying do 95% every week on your
  1607. 47:37training to motivate you. That's
  1608. 47:39probably not the best piece of advice,
  1609. 47:40but having something that you're
  1610. 47:41actively excited of or like maybe a
  1611. 47:43little bit scared of, as long as you
  1612. 47:44don't have like the mentality of like,
  1613. 47:45oh, if I fail, I'm demoralized. Like I
  1614. 47:48missed my rep PR uh yesterday or two
  1615. 47:49days ago on bench and I was like, ah,
  1616. 47:51didn't really deserve that.
  1617. 47:53>> Yeah.
  1618. 47:54>> Um, but like having those like more
  1619. 47:56concrete things cuz I feel like
  1620. 47:57sometimes I'll be like, "Oh, long-term
  1621. 47:59goals are awesome because they're going
  1622. 48:00to keep me like [ __ ] focused." And
  1623. 48:02that's true. It's like it's good. They
  1624. 48:03do keep me like I don't get like
  1625. 48:05postmeat blues and stuff cuz I always
  1626. 48:06have like longer term goals. Uh, but
  1627. 48:08short-term ones, they really keep you
  1628. 48:10like I feel like they like keep me
  1629. 48:11locked into like reminding myself of uh
  1630. 48:14like stay my good variables, right? Like
  1631. 48:16it's it's hard to be like, "Oh, in the
  1632. 48:17six months I'm going to be going for
  1633. 48:18something awesome."
  1634. 48:19>> Yeah.
  1635. 48:19>> My food doesn't really feel like it
  1636. 48:20matters that much. But if in 3 days from
  1637. 48:22now I'm like I'm going to kind of send
  1638. 48:23it for a [ __ ] rep PR. Like even if
  1639. 48:25it's a little bit stupid, like having
  1640. 48:27that as a like a reinforcement like my
  1641. 48:29variables need to be good otherwise my
  1642. 48:31odds at getting this are even worse.
  1643. 48:32>> Yeah. It's what's my boy Matt Venom
  1644. 48:35mentioned was like a lot of the time
  1645. 48:37programming specifics [laughter] are
  1646. 48:38like
  1647. 48:39>> programming spec same Sam he was like
  1648. 48:41you know Matt Venet is like the man of
  1649. 48:43the man in the world of power in the
  1650. 48:44world like he's having his moment that's
  1651. 48:47just you bro [laughter]
  1652. 48:49listen why are you always hating on the
  1653. 48:51>> I walked in here and you were on the
  1654. 48:53couch in the dark and I looked over and
  1655. 48:54you're just like watching Mad Than on
  1656. 48:55your phone
  1657. 48:56>> this is not even true [laughter]
  1658. 49:00>> all right well moving on right he was
  1659. 49:02just saying like programming specifics
  1660. 49:03maybe a little bit overrated sometimes
  1661. 49:05and like the mental side of the sport is
  1662. 49:06really big. But the mental sport ties
  1663. 49:08into the programming, right? So it's
  1664. 49:10like having things that make you a
  1665. 49:11little bit nervous. You have to know
  1666. 49:12your own dispositions though because
  1667. 49:14you'll like rules of thumb aren't
  1668. 49:17universal for anybody, but you'll but
  1669. 49:18they can be like the most important
  1670. 49:20thing for your training. I have always
  1671. 49:22aired on the side of being conservative
  1672. 49:23when I'm estimating where I'm at because
  1673. 49:25I think it's more dangerous to
  1674. 49:27overestimate where you're at than under.
  1675. 49:28So I always air on the I've got a range.
  1676. 49:30I pick the bottom end of the range and
  1677. 49:31that's always my estimate of where I'm
  1678. 49:32at.
  1679. 49:33>> It leads to me kind of chronically being
  1680. 49:35slightly underestimating where I'm at.
  1681. 49:36Yep.
  1682. 49:37>> Uh and people kind of give me a hard
  1683. 49:38time like you thought this would take. I
  1684. 49:39was like I had the idea that I could get
  1685. 49:41this done but I always go with the
  1686. 49:43low-end estimate there.
  1687. 49:44>> There's always like a realistic estimate
  1688. 49:46and then a back of the mind like
  1689. 49:48>> I could I maybe could and that's the top
  1690. 49:50end, right? And like realistically,
  1691. 49:51you're somewhere in the middle. And
  1692. 49:52because I always go with this bottom
  1693. 49:54end, my training, I should always have a
  1694. 49:56set that I have some doubt about. Like
  1695. 49:58almost on a weekly basis, I should have
  1696. 50:00something that puts a little bit of
  1697. 50:01doubt into my mind.
  1698. 50:03>> Little bit of fear.
  1699. 50:03>> Like a Yeah. Not even like fear, right?
  1700. 50:05But like I should be like, I'm not sure
  1701. 50:07I can do that and I should attempt it
  1702. 50:09because that's my calibration. Versus
  1703. 50:11guys who like will do like an RP10 rep
  1704. 50:13like easy, right? You tell those guys
  1705. 50:16their magical rule of thumb is like
  1706. 50:18they're the you tell them save it for
  1707. 50:20the platform, save it for the platform.
  1708. 50:22They're gonna be wrong. They're gonna
  1709. 50:23like it be like you tell them always
  1710. 50:24leave one in the tank in training. That
  1711. 50:25way you've got that extra gear on meat
  1712. 50:27day. It's like they're hitting RP10 all
  1713. 50:29the time in training anyway. It's
  1714. 50:31stopping them from the failed reps. But
  1715. 50:33that becomes their like golden rule is
  1716. 50:36save it for the platform. Save it for
  1717. 50:37that platform. Always leave a little in
  1718. 50:39the tank in training. and that be that
  1719. 50:41smooths out their training versus for
  1720. 50:43you and I it's always like get something
  1721. 50:45in there that gets you a little bit
  1722. 50:47worried and make sure that's kind of
  1723. 50:49universally present. But it depends on
  1724. 50:51like where your bias is as a lifter. Uh
  1725. 50:54as our final question for the day, we
  1726. 50:55have a fan submitted question where they
  1727. 50:57were saying like how much of lifting
  1728. 51:00weights is mental?
  1729. 51:03I'm a yapaholic. I have an answer, but I
  1730. 51:06I'll throw that to you guys
  1731. 51:09>> a lot.
  1732. 51:11>> Great answer. Would you like to expand
  1733. 51:13on that?
  1734. 51:13>> Uh, yes. [laughter]
  1735. 51:19>> It feels rude cuz the people love
  1736. 51:21hearing you talk and then we put you on
  1737. 51:22the spot and you're [laughter]
  1738. 51:25>> if you doubt yourself,
  1739. 51:26>> sometimes you don't get it just cuz you
  1740. 51:28doubted yourself.
  1741. 51:28>> You had an experience like this?
  1742. 51:30>> I did. I did. This happened to me
  1743. 51:31[ __ ] yesterday. I'm really I'm
  1744. 51:33getting back into squatting and
  1745. 51:35squatting scares me. So, I unracked a
  1746. 51:39weight and I was like, I'm going to put
  1747. 51:41this back in the rack for a [laughter]
  1748. 51:42second. And then I ended up being able
  1749. 51:44to get it. But that's one of the biggest
  1750. 51:45things that's why I went to bodybuilding
  1751. 51:48from powerlifting is because those 1RM I
  1752. 51:50never really figured out how to approach
  1753. 51:53them properly. It's a mind. It was a
  1754. 51:54purely mental
  1755. 51:55>> pure mental thing where I was like I was
  1756. 51:57getting stronger in the even like three
  1757. 52:00to 12 rep range every single block, but
  1758. 52:03it would get to that singles and doubles
  1759. 52:05part and I would just fall apart. So
  1760. 52:07that's kind of my biggest challenge
  1761. 52:08right now, especially on squat and
  1762. 52:10deadlift because I've
  1763. 52:12>> bench is pretty sorted for I mean
  1764. 52:13obviously you can always get better, but
  1765. 52:15bench I'm pretty good about kind of
  1766. 52:17where I'm at right now is trying to
  1767. 52:18figure out I need some adrenaline but
  1768. 52:20how do I approach that mentally without
  1769. 52:23crumbling under pressure?
  1770. 52:24>> Yeah. Like I think people find find
  1771. 52:26their way into like a a system that
  1772. 52:28works but it's tough and eventually
  1773. 52:31people start looking for a way out like
  1774. 52:32oh when I train with this guy I always
  1775. 52:34get better and they eventually start
  1776. 52:36looking for a reason a way out and
  1777. 52:38that's like a big boxing thing is like
  1778. 52:40you need to not be looking for the
  1779. 52:42second you're looking for a way out you
  1780. 52:43lose.
  1781. 52:44>> So [clears throat] you need to build a
  1782. 52:45psychology that you can sustain doing
  1783. 52:48this hard thing indefinitely without
  1784. 52:50eventually looking for a way out. I'll
  1785. 52:52give people a program and it's like I'm
  1786. 52:54like realistically man this is the
  1787. 52:56amount of work you need to do to be
  1788. 52:58progress. Like your goal is to move to
  1789. 52:59the next level as a lifter. This is the
  1790. 53:01amount of work you need to do. You're
  1791. 53:02going to be a little bit more tired than
  1792. 53:03you're used to. You need to get used to
  1793. 53:05it. But some people never get used to it
  1794. 53:07and they like kind of use up all of
  1795. 53:08their motivation and then they start
  1796. 53:09looking for a way out. It's like if you
  1797. 53:10want to get to the next level, you need
  1798. 53:12to be someone who gets comfortable with
  1799. 53:14that amount of work without inevitably
  1800. 53:16being for like a way out thing. Right.
  1801. 53:18>> Yeah. cuz that would be like an example
  1802. 53:20of somebody who would be on the opposite
  1803. 53:21end of the spectrum of me as someone who
  1804. 53:22loves lifting heavy and they always want
  1805. 53:24to be putting like the pedal to the
  1806. 53:26metal and hitting those like all out
  1807. 53:28sets for them. the the mentality
  1808. 53:30difficulty would be figuring out how to
  1809. 53:32enjoy
  1810. 53:33>> the hypertrophy phases because they
  1811. 53:34don't get to show off, right? Or they
  1812. 53:36don't get like the adrenaline like
  1813. 53:37another mental part.
  1814. 53:38>> You've had lifters that like struggle
  1815. 53:40with like that's kind of the the
  1816. 53:41interesting part about like periodized
  1817. 53:43training is you can really isolate which
  1818. 53:44parts you're good at, which ones you're
  1819. 53:45bad. Like I crush hypertrophy and it's
  1820. 53:47sustainable and I can do this forever. I
  1821. 53:49crush strength, it's great, and then I
  1822. 53:50freak the [ __ ] out and peak. Well, guess
  1823. 53:52what? If you really want to get better,
  1824. 53:54that's the one you need to get better
  1825. 53:55at. But some people, they they crush the
  1826. 53:56peak. They're looking forward to
  1827. 53:58training. They love they like they their
  1828. 53:59psychology under things that feel heavy
  1829. 54:01is great and they will not put in base
  1830. 54:03building work and it's like if you
  1831. 54:04really want to get better you need to
  1832. 54:05get over your aversion to base building
  1833. 54:07work, right? And so it's like sometimes
  1834. 54:09that could be really useful to see. What
  1835. 54:10was what was your answer going to be?
  1836. 54:12>> Um I was just say like lifting obviously
  1837. 54:15it's like a physiological response,
  1838. 54:16right? We're growing our muscles and
  1839. 54:18we're adapting our CNS, right? Um, I
  1840. 54:21feel like as I've gotten better, I have
  1841. 54:24noticed more and more that like there is
  1842. 54:26no just like I'm just going to like get
  1843. 54:27the work done, right? Like I if I'm like
  1844. 54:30miserable, right? Or like even just
  1845. 54:32periods of my life that have been like
  1846. 54:33bad, right? My lifting doesn't go well.
  1847. 54:35Yeah. Like it's it's so much more than I
  1848. 54:37think cuz I'm like just like like I got
  1849. 54:39so into like the A to B like it's input
  1850. 54:42output machine, right? I put in four
  1851. 54:44sets of bench press. I put in my
  1852. 54:45dumbbell bench. I put in my good meals
  1853. 54:47and I put in good sleep and I just get
  1854. 54:48awesome results, right? Like that's what
  1855. 54:50the machine is, right? And but I keep
  1856. 54:52seeing the fact that like
  1857. 54:54>> especially with like us training
  1858. 54:56together right now. There are like the
  1859. 54:58the garden metaphor makes a lot more
  1860. 55:00sense of like just like conditions and
  1861. 55:01stuff grows and doesn't, right? Like me
  1862. 55:02and you like there are movements that
  1863. 55:03like we are progressing very differently
  1864. 55:05at, right? And like we are
  1865. 55:07>> very similar like shaped athletes in
  1866. 55:09terms of like our conditions and stuff,
  1867. 55:10right? and like just stuff tends to
  1868. 55:12evolve in like different ways and that
  1869. 55:14it just like kind of occurs naturally,
  1870. 55:16right? Um, and having a more p like
  1871. 55:19positive outlook and being more excited
  1872. 55:20for training. It feels like very like
  1873. 55:22wishy-washy intangible, but it clearly
  1874. 55:24is so connected to how
  1875. 55:26>> it's part of the good gu I think that's
  1876. 55:27part of like I think that's part of the
  1877. 55:28good garden environment is like
  1878. 55:30>> both of the best meat preps I've ever
  1879. 55:32had. I was so excited to train. Yes. And
  1880. 55:34I'm like objectively it wasn't like the
  1881. 55:36block wasn't that different. I never
  1882. 55:38skip [ __ ] anything. I my sleep is
  1883. 55:40always awesome and I eat literally the
  1884. 55:41exact same thing every day. So I feel
  1885. 55:43like I have a very controlled thing for
  1886. 55:44like we don't like I'm so resistant to
  1887. 55:46change especially back when I was a
  1888. 55:48teenager I was so [ __ ] like saying
  1889. 55:49don't [ __ ] change anything, right? So
  1890. 55:51it's not like we were running like these
  1891. 55:52like true like really meaningful
  1892. 55:53constant experiments with changing
  1893. 55:55stuff, right? Um but sometimes I'd have
  1894. 55:57block like drastically different results
  1895. 55:58even though essentially all of like your
  1896. 56:00standard training variables are the
  1897. 56:01exact same. Sometimes I was just like
  1898. 56:03going in and like [ __ ] so much more
  1899. 56:05excited. And like obviously there are
  1900. 56:08tangible things that change from that,
  1901. 56:09right? Like I'm walking more. I'm
  1902. 56:10stretching more. I'm more conscious
  1903. 56:12about like getting moving throughout the
  1904. 56:13day is one of those things that like
  1905. 56:14whenever I'm really excited about
  1906. 56:16training, I just do it so much more
  1907. 56:17durotically because in the back of my
  1908. 56:18mind I'm like, I got 750 this weekend. I
  1909. 56:20really want to [ __ ] dunk on that
  1910. 56:21[ __ ] I want to spike that. I want a
  1911. 56:22cool Instagram video. I'm a [ __ ]
  1912. 56:24beast. Deadlift Max is back, right? I've
  1913. 56:25been thinking that all [ __ ] week,
  1914. 56:26dude. I'm I'm fired up for [laughter]
  1915. 56:28those on the 4th of July, bro. USA
  1916. 56:30freedom. I'm [ __ ] putting the tea in
  1917. 56:32the [ __ ] ocean, you retards.
  1918. 56:33[laughter] Sorry.
  1919. 56:35>> Okay.
  1920. 56:39>> So, mentality is important. [laughter]
  1921. 56:42>> ATTACK the British. Sorry.
  1922. 56:43[clears throat]
  1923. 56:44>> Um, but yeah, like like having that like
  1924. 56:46positive connection to training is so
  1925. 56:48independently helpful in a way that like
  1926. 56:49I've I don't give it as much credit as
  1927. 56:51it like clearly deserves. And like the
  1928. 56:53guys who I've seen like really succeed
  1929. 56:55just seem to be like having a blast
  1930. 56:56training, right? And like I'm pretty
  1931. 56:58sure if you just like didn't like the
  1932. 56:59system, it wouldn't work as well. Even
  1933. 57:00if you were doing all of the exact
  1934. 57:02things,
  1935. 57:02>> that's what I'm saying is the psychology
  1936. 57:03is part of the environment, right? Like
  1937. 57:05the eating the right food is part of
  1938. 57:07what creates the environment to adapt to
  1939. 57:08the demands. Well, sleeping enough is
  1940. 57:11part of what creates the like ability to
  1941. 57:14make the adaptations. Being in the right
  1942. 57:16me mental space seems to have a
  1943. 57:19meaningful impact.
  1944. 57:21>> And that's where it end.
  1945. 57:22>> Wait, I didn't answer. [laughter]
  1946. 57:25>> I planned an answer the whole time.
  1947. 57:26>> WHAT THE [ __ ] WAS THAT?
  1948. 57:28>> WHAT? WHAT WAS THAT? What was what
  1949. 57:29>> you talking? [laughter]
  1950. 57:31>> What was me talking?
  1951. 57:32>> Was that not your answer?
  1952. 57:33>> No, I was I was replying to what you
  1953. 57:35said.
  1954. 57:35>> Okay. What's your answer?
  1955. 57:36>> So, I think when you start it's like all
  1956. 57:38mental cuz you can push yourself way
  1957. 57:39[ __ ] harder than you think, right?
  1958. 57:41Yes. And like you could just get more
  1959. 57:42reps by willpower, but then you get
  1960. 57:44pretty good at that and you're like
  1961. 57:45actually failing. You're like physically
  1962. 57:47failing, right? And then it's like,
  1963. 57:49okay, well, mental still matters quite a
  1964. 57:50bit, but it becomes no longer in the
  1965. 57:52micro. In the micro, it's just like
  1966. 57:54mentally you could just [ __ ] do more
  1967. 57:56reps. and the guy that mentally does the
  1968. 57:58more reps gets the better results. But
  1969. 58:00then once once you can push yourself to
  1970. 58:02your limit, it's not that like you can
  1971. 58:03get so hyped up that you could deadlift
  1972. 58:05a thousand. No, you're going to [ __ ]
  1973. 58:06fail that like there's technique to it,
  1974. 58:08right?
  1975. 58:08>> Have you ever heard of the mom lifting
  1976. 58:09the mom?
  1977. 58:11>> What if you [laughter]
  1978. 58:13think about the baby, right? Like you
  1979. 58:15No, you're going to like sure you can
  1980. 58:17you can you can get a little bit better
  1981. 58:18by extracting a little bit of extra
  1982. 58:20strength by mastering adrenaline and
  1983. 58:21hype. You can express a little bit more.
  1984. 58:24But the difference video about that
  1985. 58:25>> do you The difference between you that
  1986. 58:27benches 200 and the you that benches 300
  1987. 58:29is not your psychological state, but
  1988. 58:32your ability to change your physiology
  1989. 58:34and not look for a way out and your
  1990. 58:36ability to be picking up little uh like
  1991. 58:38nickels and dimes of progress all day
  1992. 58:40with like habits. Um it no longer
  1993. 58:43becomes like this set is all mental,
  1994. 58:45right? Like once you get to a certain
  1995. 58:46level, you're pretty dialed on that and
  1996. 58:48it's no longer the case. But the
  1997. 58:50long-term progression is still mental.
  1998. 58:52Like keeping yourself checked into
  1999. 58:53training and pushing hard and interested
  2000. 58:55and curious about what to do to get
  2001. 58:57better. Keeping yourself in that state
  2002. 58:59is not something that happens that you
  2003. 59:01passively accept. It's something you
  2004. 59:02actively stoke to be in that right
  2005. 59:05mentality and you need to keep yourself
  2006. 59:07there because if you fall out of it,
  2007. 59:09you'll start looking for a way out or
  2008. 59:10you'll start going through the motions
  2009. 59:12and you will like the ability to stay in
  2010. 59:14the right mindset is everything. Thank
  2011. 59:16you guys so much for watching. If you
  2012. 59:18want more awesome lifting philosophy
  2013. 59:19talk, hop on the Patreon for what is
  2014. 59:22perhaps even a larger show.

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