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Tesla volante : coup de génie ou ARNAQUE du siècle ? — Transcript

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  1. 0:00A car that rolls on the ceiling, jumps
  2. 0:02over stationary cars in a loop, and
  3. 0:05then gently lands on the ground in a
  4. 0:07perfectly controlled sweep. Tesla
  5. 0:10pushed the staging of its new sports
  6. 0:12car, the Roadster, very far. But behind
  7. 0:14this American-style show that is
  8. 0:16supposed to amaze us, several questions
  9. 0:18remain unanswered, and you will see
  10. 0:20that the subject goes far beyond the
  11. 0:21simple presentation of a new electric
  12. 0:23car. So how does this roadstore work?
  13. 0:27What is it for? What is its promise?
  14. 0:30Will these technologies be applied in
  15. 0:32production cars, and will they really
  16. 0:34be available one day? That's what we're
  17. 0:37going to see in this video, in which I
  18. 0:39will answer all these questions and
  19. 0:41many others precisely because this
  20. 0:43presentation impressed me but also left
  21. 0:45me with a slight aftertaste of being a
  22. 0:47complete joke, I won't hide that from
  23. 0:49you. And stay until the end because I
  24. 0:52will explain to you why some of the
  25. 0:54comparisons that I saw after this
  26. 0:56launch don't hold water for a second.
  27. 0:59And just to clarify, this video is not
  28. 1:01intended to be a Tesla bashing, but
  29. 1:03rather to examine the facts in the most
  30. 1:06objective way possible. For those who
  31. 1:08don't know me, I'd like to remind you
  32. 1:10that I personally drove a Tesla for 5
  33. 1:12years and loved it. Let's get started.
  34. 1:20First, let's recap the early days of
  35. 1:22the Roadster project. We'll quickly go
  36. 1:24over the first Roadster. The first
  37. 1:26version came out in 2008 after Elon
  38. 1:29Musk bought Tesla, and it was the first
  39. 1:32Tesla and the first electric sports car
  40. 1:35based on the Lotus Elise. The vehicle
  41. 1:38had already caused a sensation at the
  42. 1:40time, allowing a few wealthy
  43. 1:41Californians to show off in what was
  44. 1:43the first production electric car. Then
  45. 1:47Elon Musk presented what was called the
  46. 1:49Roadstore 2 in 2017. A superb electric
  47. 1:52sports car promising extraordinary
  48. 1:54performance and autonomy, with hints
  49. 1:56that this car could be equipped with
  50. 1:59rocket propulsion and that it could fly
  51. 2:01. At the time, no one really believed
  52. 2:04it. At this presentation, the official
  53. 2:07release date was announced as 2020.
  54. 2:09Many fans confidently placed orders,
  55. 2:12paying a deposit of € 50,000. 9 years
  56. 2:15later and following numerous promises
  57. 2:17that were constantly pushed back, the
  58. 2:18Roadstore 2 still hasn't been released,
  59. 2:20and the suckers who paid a deposit are
  60. 2:22disappointed. But there's finally
  61. 2:24something new with the presentation on
  62. 2:26October 15th last week, where Tesla
  63. 2:28unveiled a profoundly different car
  64. 2:30with a new design, new ambitions, and a
  65. 2:32new deadline. This time, we're talking
  66. 2:35about 2028. In the meantime, the
  67. 2:37electric sports car has discovered
  68. 2:39abilities that bring it closer to its
  69. 2:41boss's space program. You've probably
  70. 2:44all seen the video. A car climbs a ramp
  71. 2:46until it ends up upside down, then
  72. 2:48performs an aerial maneuver before
  73. 2:50landing on its wheels. All without a
  74. 2:53driver, as part of a demonstration
  75. 2:54whose preparation and organization left
  76. 2:56us a little lost. It must be said. With
  77. 2:59this new version, the curves of the
  78. 3:012017 prototype give way to an angular
  79. 3:04body, strip lighting signatures, and
  80. 3:06doors that open upwards. The influence
  81. 3:09of the Cybertruck can be seen in this
  82. 3:11geometry, with something of a
  83. 3:12Lamborghini that has been through the
  84. 3:14Tesla design office. Personally, I much
  85. 3:17prefer the 2017 version, but each to
  86. 3:19their own after all. At the rear, a
  87. 3:22large movable spoiler on the lead
  88. 3:23covers several openings, some of which
  89. 3:25look like exhaust outlets. The height
  90. 3:27of irony on an electric car is that it
  91. 3:29is actually a cold gas engine that
  92. 3:31allows the car to accelerate in ways
  93. 3:33that would be impossible with a
  94. 3:35conventional engine, even an electric
  95. 3:36one. The video mentions four versions:
  96. 3:40a basic version without the most
  97. 3:42extravagant features. Then the
  98. 3:44performance thrust and rocket versions.
  99. 3:48The first one remains quite
  100. 3:49undocumented for now. The other three
  101. 3:51correspond to a progression ranging
  102. 3:53from active aerodynamic support to a
  103. 3:55thruster capable of moving the car
  104. 3:56through the air. It is clear that some
  105. 3:58features depend on the configuration
  106. 4:00and, of course, the region in which it
  107. 4:02is sold. We imagine that there will be
  108. 4:04very few regions in the world that will
  109. 4:06be able to sell the Tesla rocket. First
  110. 4:09, how does the car stay on the ceiling,
  111. 4:11but Malarie? Well, it's quite simple
  112. 4:12and it's not that new. It uses fans to
  113. 4:15extract air from under the bodywork.
  114. 4:18Skirts close to the ground maintain a
  115. 4:20low-pressure zone, a bit like suction
  116. 4:22cups. The difference between the air
  117. 4:24pressure above the car, the gold plate
  118. 4:26on the ground or against the ceiling.
  119. 4:28In fact, the car is simply equipped
  120. 4:30with a giant vacuum cleaner that
  121. 4:31presses it to the ground with enough
  122. 4:33support to exceed the weight of the car
  123. 4:35. Driving upside down becomes
  124. 4:36physically possible on a suitable
  125. 4:38installation. Of course, you can
  126. 4:39perhaps have fun driving in a tunnel
  127. 4:41upside down, but it will be a little
  128. 4:42complicated all the same. As I said,
  129. 4:44the principle is not new. It even dates
  130. 4:47back a little since it had already been
  131. 4:49introduced in Formula 1 with the Brabam
  132. 4:52BT46 in 1978. More recently, the
  133. 4:54MacMury Sperling, this small British
  134. 4:56electric single-seater works on the
  135. 4:58same principle with performances
  136. 5:00equivalent to this Tesla Roadster.
  137. 5:02Tesla would thus use a known solution,
  138. 5:04aiming to integrate it into its own
  139. 5:06sports car. The announced time for the
  140. 5:09performance is around 1.6 seconds from
  141. 5:110 to 60 km/h, which corresponds to
  142. 5:13around 1.65 seconds for 0 to 100 km/h.
  143. 5:16For use on a circuit, the logic is
  144. 5:18quite convincing on the road, but it
  145. 5:19raises more questions. How does the
  146. 5:22system react to bumps, potholes, debris
  147. 5:24, and road irregularities? How is the
  148. 5:27skirts worn? How can noise and rear-end
  149. 5:29projections be limited with the fan?
  150. 5:32The second version, the frost version,
  151. 5:34would add rear-wheel drive powered by
  152. 5:36pressurized nitrogen. According to the
  153. 5:38specifications reported in the video, a
  154. 5:40200-liter tank would contain more than
  155. 5:42100 kg of gas, around 690 bar, which is
  156. 5:44still a lot of pressure. The thrust
  157. 5:46then complements the thrust of the
  158. 5:48electric motors without depending
  159. 5:49solely on the grip of the tires or the
  160. 5:50resistance of the tires. Tesla thus
  161. 5:53announces a 0 to 97 km/h acceleration
  162. 5:56in less than a second. However, this
  163. 5:58capacity would have a fairly concrete
  164. 5:59limit. The thrust mode would last 3 to
  165. 6:025 seconds and then the gas reserve
  166. 6:03would have to be replenished, which
  167. 6:05would take around 6 to 7 hours, which
  168. 6:07would put the possibility of launching
  169. 6:09rocket-style launches into perspective.
  170. 6:11Added to this are questions about noise
  171. 6:13, the protection of people nearby, and
  172. 6:14the resistance of the device in the
  173. 6:16event of a collision. We can easily
  174. 6:18imagine the Rogue version pushing the
  175. 6:20exercise even further with six
  176. 6:22additional thrusters oriented in
  177. 6:23different directions and an additional
  178. 6:25400 L tank that occupies the passenger
  179. 6:27space. The roadstore would therefore
  180. 6:30become a single-seater with a 0 to 100
  181. 6:32announced at around 0.7 seconds and the
  182. 6:34famous acrobatics. To give you a
  183. 6:36reference, a Formula 1 car does 0 to
  184. 6:38100 in around 2 seconds in the best
  185. 6:40grip conditions, or even a little less.
  186. 6:43And a Formula E, the electric Formula 1
  187. 6:45in 1.7 seconds. This version would be
  188. 6:48accessible by invitation only and would
  189. 6:50not be allowed on the open road. That's
  190. 6:52for the spectacular and, let's say,
  191. 6:54completely lunar side of the
  192. 6:55presentation, or rather Martian in this
  193. 6:57case. But it's the more classic
  194. 6:59characteristics of the machine that
  195. 7:01really interest us. The video reports a
  196. 7:03target mass of less than 1,700 kg,
  197. 7:04which is not bad for a car in this
  198. 7:06category. A carbon fiber body and two
  199. 7:09motors that drive only the rear wheels.
  200. 7:12While the 2017 version offered three or
  201. 7:14four motors, the power would be around
  202. 7:171,000 to 1,300 horsepower. One thing
  203. 7:20that really surprised me was the choice
  204. 7:22to make it a rear-wheel drive at a time
  205. 7:24when the most efficient electric cars,
  206. 7:26including Tesla's, generally use € 4
  207. 7:28motors. In terms of autonomy, it's a
  208. 7:32big scam, we can say, since it would
  209. 7:34ultimately be only 480 km while Mosque
  210. 7:36had promised nearly 1000 km during the
  211. 7:39first presentation in 2017. The
  212. 7:41charging power could reach 500 kW from
  213. 7:4315 to 80%in 10 minutes. Nothing too
  214. 7:47crazy in 2026 when we see what brands
  215. 7:49like Denza and Byyd or others are
  216. 7:51offering today with flash charging from
  217. 7:5410 to 97%, so almost 5%in 9 minutes or
  218. 7:56from 20 to 80%in 5 minutes. So much for
  219. 7:59the technology. Now the question that
  220. 8:01everyone asked themselves apart from
  221. 8:03the Transit fan boys who would have
  222. 8:04applauded anyway even if Mosque had
  223. 8:06presented a new adjustable wrench. What
  224. 8:08is it for? This is the first thought
  225. 8:11that comes to mind once you get past
  226. 8:13the pits of the kenote and these
  227. 8:15somewhat surreal images. In fact, the
  228. 8:17answer is neither rational nor
  229. 8:19pragmatic. It is first and foremost a
  230. 8:21demonstration, a demonstration of
  231. 8:23technology, of know-how, and also the
  232. 8:24demonstration that we can always dream
  233. 8:26higher, further, and stronger. In this
  234. 8:29sense, the bet has paid off, and we
  235. 8:31have to admit that we have witnessed a
  236. 8:32pretty crazy thing that consists of
  237. 8:34making a machine fly in a controlled
  238. 8:35manner that was absolutely not
  239. 8:36originally designed for that. A machine
  240. 8:39with no A, no rotor, no rudder. A kind
  241. 8:42of anvil in fact. Which somewhat defies
  242. 8:45the laws of aerodynamics and lift, and
  243. 8:47which makes it closer to a rocket than
  244. 8:49an airplane. So the logic is quite
  245. 8:51respected in the end. Then, regarding
  246. 8:54the real usefulness, we have to see if
  247. 8:56all this technology could be integrated
  248. 8:57into everyday cars and for what purpose
  249. 8:59. Honestly, I don't see any, except
  250. 9:02perhaps thrusters that would improve
  251. 9:04acceleration without draining the
  252. 9:06battery and wearing out the tires, or
  253. 9:08to boost the car on a hill to improve
  254. 9:10its range with small boosts. Regarding
  255. 9:13the suction system, apart from
  256. 9:15ultra-sporty driving and therefore on
  257. 9:16the circuit, who really needs a car
  258. 9:18that is glued to the ground? I don't
  259. 9:20really see any. Then, we're talking
  260. 9:22about innovation. But what innovation
  261. 9:23are we talking about? I personally
  262. 9:25don't see any. A flying car, that's not
  263. 9:28true. The Roadstore doesn't fly. It's
  264. 9:30not a flying car. It's a car that jumps
  265. 9:32a few meters off the ground for a few
  266. 9:34seconds before reaching solid ground.
  267. 9:37And gravity can't be fought like that
  268. 9:38with a few thrusters capable of
  269. 9:40operating for only a few seconds. So
  270. 9:42there's no innovation on that front.
  271. 9:44Aviation has existed for a century,
  272. 9:45rockets for over 60 years. And if we
  273. 9:49want to talk about flying cars, or
  274. 9:51rather flying personal transport
  275. 9:52vehicles, I suggest you look at Xping
  276. 9:54and other Chinese manufacturers who
  277. 9:56already have operational machines, in
  278. 9:57the process of being approved in
  279. 9:59several regions of the world, which are
  280. 10:01capable of transporting two to four
  281. 10:03people over several hundred kilometers.
  282. 10:06Regarding the vacuum that presses the
  283. 10:08car to the ground, as we saw, it
  284. 10:10already existed in 1978. Then, we can
  285. 10:12debate the definition of innovation.
  286. 10:15Yes, putting rocket boosters on a car
  287. 10:16can be seen as an innovation.
  288. 10:18Personally, I see it more as a
  289. 10:20demonstration without any real
  290. 10:21practical application. In this case,
  291. 10:23you could also put boosters on an iron,
  292. 10:26a lamp or a lawnmower. But why do it?
  293. 10:29Now, on a more down-to-earth note,
  294. 10:30there remains the basic version of this
  295. 10:32roadster which will therefore be a
  296. 10:33classic electric sports car. All this
  297. 10:35with many quotation marks, without
  298. 10:37boosters or vacuums. An attractive car,
  299. 10:39which will certainly already be
  300. 10:41extraordinary to drive, but which will
  301. 10:43arrive on a market where competitors
  302. 10:45will have already grabbed a good part
  303. 10:47of the cake, like the Denza Z, the
  304. 10:49electric Porsche Caillement which will
  305. 10:51arrive next year, or even the new BMW
  306. 10:53M3 and Mercedes AMG GT. Even if the
  307. 10:55latter two are a little less exclusive
  308. 10:57because they are not hybrids and,
  309. 10:59needless to say, the cake of electric
  310. 11:01sports cars is very small and we are
  311. 11:03really on a loaf. Then, I saw
  312. 11:05comparisons with other launches that
  313. 11:07took place during the same week, or
  314. 11:09even the same day. Quite strange
  315. 11:12comparisons, for example with the new
  316. 11:13electric 2014 and with the new Porsche
  317. 11:15Mission S. So, let me tell you that
  318. 11:17these parallels are quite irrelevant,
  319. 11:19not to say completely out of place.
  320. 11:22First of all, nothing works for the
  321. 11:242014. Not the same use, not the same
  322. 11:25budget, not the same audience, not the
  323. 11:27same narrative. We could even say that
  324. 11:29they are all opposites. I'm not
  325. 11:31specifically defending Citroën, and I
  326. 11:33even teased them a bit in my previous
  327. 11:35video, but honestly, being sarcastic
  328. 11:37about the supposed innovation of the
  329. 11:39Roadstore by comparing it to the 2CV is
  330. 11:41completely irrelevant and shows that we
  331. 11:42don't know much about the automotive
  332. 11:44industry and marketing. And you know
  333. 11:47what? There will certainly be a lot
  334. 11:50more electric Horsepower sold than
  335. 11:52Roadstores and it will certainly bring
  336. 11:53in a lot more money for Citroën than
  337. 11:54the Roadstore will bring in for Tesla,
  338. 11:56perhaps even in terms of image. On the
  339. 12:00Porsche Mission S. Then, yes, the car
  340. 12:01was presented on the same day as the
  341. 12:03Roadster. So it went a little unnoticed
  342. 12:05. So how could that possibly cause any
  343. 12:07problems for Porsche? We're not talking
  344. 12:09about the same product. The Porsche is
  345. 12:11a combustion model, for a different
  346. 12:13clientele and different use. Porsche is
  347. 12:16aimed at a wealthy clientele of car
  348. 12:17enthusiasts and enthusiasts of the
  349. 12:19brand. People who prioritize the
  350. 12:21pleasure of driving over the bluff of
  351. 12:23gas-powered vehicles who couldn't care
  352. 12:25less about flying cars. At worst, they
  353. 12:27travel in private jets and have a
  354. 12:28different philosophy about cars than
  355. 12:30the Twitter geeks. Now, I admit it,
  356. 12:33it's a shame that this Mission S isn't
  357. 12:34electric because it would have really
  358. 12:36ticked all the boxes. The remaining
  359. 12:39issue is the schedule after the
  360. 12:41postponements of the first project,
  361. 12:43from 2017 to 2020 and then 2026. The
  362. 12:44new deadline isn't really reassuring,
  363. 12:46especially since Tesla included a small
  364. 12:48clause in its reservation contract
  365. 12:50stating that the brand does not
  366. 12:52guarantee the delivery date, or even
  367. 12:53that it will ever happen. They are
  368. 12:56still very strong. For people who have
  369. 12:58been waiting for years, does the car
  370. 12:59they reserved still correspond to the
  371. 13:01one Tesla intends to produce? As we
  372. 13:03know, the roadstore ultimately occupies
  373. 13:05a special place in the brand's strategy
  374. 13:07. Tesla has therefore found a way to
  375. 13:09rekindle the conversation and, above
  376. 13:11all, the buzz around its products, even
  377. 13:13if we still wonder about the true
  378. 13:14relevance of this roadstore and whether
  379. 13:16it will really come out one day in
  380. 13:17these four versions. It also raises
  381. 13:19questions about what Tesla is really
  382. 13:21becoming and whether in the long term
  383. 13:23we will still be able to consider this
  384. 13:25brand as a purely automotive brand
  385. 13:27given its expansion into robotics and
  386. 13:29now even into aerospace. In any case,
  387. 13:31those who fantasize with so much
  388. 13:33certainty about the famous Model 2, the
  389. 13:34small Tesla supposedly planned in the
  390. 13:36brand's boxes, are out of pocket. It is
  391. 13:39confirmed that the project never
  392. 13:40existed other than in their dreams. And
  393. 13:42without false modesty, this is
  394. 13:43something I have been saying for years.
  395. 13:45We will see if the future proves me
  396. 13:46right or wrong. In any case, I
  397. 13:49recognize at least that Tesla and more
  398. 13:51broadly Elon Mosk have a talent, this
  399. 13:53ability to make the impossible possible
  400. 13:55and therefore, in a way, to continue to
  401. 13:57make us dream. And for that alone,
  402. 13:59whatever one thinks of the character, I
  403. 14:01say hats off to the artist. There you
  404. 14:03have it, I hope you now know a little
  405. 14:04more about this new Tesla Roadstore. If
  406. 14:07you enjoyed this video, feel free to
  407. 14:09like, share, comment and subscribe. And
  408. 14:11see you soon for another video on
  409. 14:13electric car news.

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